EVERY Hidden Mission in Session (Story Mode Pt. 12)

[@illmotion_]

In the last 4 days, I have heard your voice more often than mine. Thanks for the great guidance. What was shown and said guided me very well through the entire game.

[@MOONT0WER_]

Line from hell (the 12 benches) took me 1.5 hours. Consisted of about 7 nosegrinds, 3 noseslides, and 2 board/lip slides. My tip for anyone struggling is: you don’t have to do them In order! If you don’t like the angle or the speed, skip a bench, or two! And hit the next one. Hope this helps

[@england101510]

Thank you so much for this video, it was a huge help!

[@patrickbourke2385]

You are an absolute hero. Thank you for putting the time into all of these mission videos

[@bradrogers7969]

Dude thank you for these now I have stuff to do in between daily and weekly challenges

[@MrKlimmer01]

kinda sad the story is over, was hyped on these regular uploads :D keep up the good work mate, much appreciated!

[@Poet.of.Nevermore]

11:54 fucking KILLED me bro!!! 😂😂😂 You straight apologized to that NPC…Thank you for that laugh

[@BradM]

Really good video, well paced, detailed, entertaining and well edited (as and editor I know how annoying it can be sorting through old footage for individual clips)

[@JLNightmare]

Haha thank you :) actually, finding the old clips was super easy, barely an inconvenience :p since I had all previous parts well organized with time stamps and mission names/ who gives them to you, I knew what videos had each challenges I needed. so I loaded up the old project files and just copied the sections I needed and pasted into the new project.

[@BradM]

@@JLNightmare that’s a massive testament to how well organised you are and how much work you put into each video. That alone is more impressive than the pain staking process of going through them all. Can’t wait to see how far your channel grows as its clear you work hard on it and are very passionate about it. Wish you nothing but the best with it all

[@part-timejaffa6045]

Thank you bro! Been stuck on 13,550 had no idea there were poster missions! Cheers JL 👍

[@RealDaveTheFreak]

Manny Bank doesn't register: use more speed (3x pushes) and jump far into the bank, then it finally registered for me! First of all: thank you so much! Second: sadly, Many Bank doesn't register anything beyond the 360 flip variation (Goofy). So damn frustrating. (fixed)

[@chat_hanks]

I hope they do more of the poster missions in future update those are actually pretty fun haha

[@bellabear653]

Great work guy, I play this game a lot and it must of taken you a good week to put this video together.

[@JLNightmare]

Didn’t take long to put the videos together actually :)

[@bellabear653]

@@JLNightmare?? Really is that because you had previous footage of tricks you already did? Maybe I need to play more myself, anyways thanks for the video I am just now realising how many tasks are left undone in story mode after all is completed. 😂😂

[@JLNightmare]

Nah, it’s because I had already beaten the story a few times before making the videos :p

[@bellabear653]

​@@JLNightmareahh that makes sense. Well good effort anyways, I love this game I skated for 20 years and it is as close as you can get through a video game to skating for real.

[@bellabear653]

​@@JLNightmareJL on the crazy rail Brooklyn N.Y I went to grind it and shot through the roof the board never landed on the rail it looks like God mode. 😂

[@brucelee101]

Hell yeah man thanks for all that info

[@CeBonVieuxJB]

Hello. On the mission "grind to grind" the spot for the trick doesn't appear on my map. Where is it please?

[@JLNightmare]

The video shows you exactly where to go: Highline 1, go to the left. If that phone is completely missing and you’re on PC with mods installed.. make sure you don’t have RMS tool enabled cause it makes missions disappear. Go to the mod manager and uncheck it then click start session

[@CeBonVieuxJB]

@@JLNightmare thanks. I'm on series x

[@JLNightmare]

Ok so then it should be exactly where o show in the video. If you’ve already talked to that phone, the mission will show up in Skater Logs / Missions

[@CeBonVieuxJB]

@@JLNightmare that never appear but it's in highline 1 like you said. Thank you cause I make it everywhere thousand time 😂

[@JLNightmare]

@@CeBonVieuxJB if you mean the little waypoint never appeared, thats because i didnt answer the phone from the last mission so it was telling me to answer that phone to complete theprevious mission. those phones are supposed to be more hidden so they dont have waypoints showing you where they are unless its telling you to complete the challenge

[@mello-sesh]

Awesome vid I need to know all the secret stuff looking forward to finding these missions and locals I love your flow in your lines so smooth dude

[@Stretch2024]

Thanks mate, a detailed historic challenge vid please

[@mamamamamamamable]

the one with the 12 benches took me soooo long, haha, stupid quest. Thanks for your work !

[@Thatonedere]

The amount of times I got to 11 benches and failed was insane

[@MrSuspectmonster]

Time sensitive telephones would be sick in future builds.

[@tactical1981]

Sweet. Ended up on the same XP.

[@anthonyott5447]

Thx bro I needed that now I can just skate around until the next update

[@kiwisteve1488]

Im stuck on lipslide the handicap rail, have you done this in any of your videos? Ive been searching thru but probably have missed it.

[@JLNightmare]

What is the mission called and I’ll tell you what video it’s in.

[@kiwisteve1488]

@@JLNightmare thanks for replying!! Its called handicap rail, its on the philly map

[@JLNightmare]

Last mission in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKOTdHqwqJ2Hg8U

[@kiwisteve1488]

@@JLNightmare awesome thank you!

[@p1rz666]

Thanks some of them really help out!

[@mischief4762]

Remeber JL was here first!! Best session content out my man.

[@ollinator287]

This game makes dreams come true! Thanx for all the explanations! If anybody wants to see the worst quality clips....take a look to the answers?!

[@ollinator287]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZ3do2pjhs2al80

[@ollinator287]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ6aemyPd75oo68

[@ollinator287]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnvWZZWKfqqLgqs

[@christirva339]

So easy to follow. Thanks again man. Is this the most updated? Or are there more missions now?

[@JLNightmare]

Yeah, the series I put out is all still relevant. No new missions for the base game have been added. The only difference right now is some missions have been fixed up

[@95bulion]

@@JLNightmaresinice is been a while is this most updated list of something new showed up in latest updates?

[@JLNightmare]

Still accurate. Nothing new has been added to main story since this video was made. The only new missions added since 1.0 are the DLC missions with Chris Cole

[@95bulion]

thanks!@@JLNightmare

[@megabates9016]

10:43 story of my life! 🤣 I already know I'm going to battle this one

[@ortalion.]

I've done every story, hidden, phonebooth and posters missions and I have 13575 exposure points. Anyone have similar problem?:( Edit: I didn't know about unmarked Billy Marks missions on Xbox ;) now my exp is 13775

[@bveracka]

7:20 I moved the barrier in Creature Park and now it won't register 😑 Any suggestions?

[@JLNightmare]

Put the barrier back

[@bveracka]

@@JLNightmare I tried six ways to Sunday. Looked at your video (and others) to see exactly where it's supposed to be and nothing worked. Can't find a blue barrier either; all I see are the ones with red and white - like the others upstairs in the Creature Park. If you think of anything else lmk, but thanks for answering! Your channel rocks. 👍

[@JLNightmare]

@bveracka I just tried with removing the barrier. You don’t need the barrier there at all, just pop a high enough Ollie off the bank (middle of bank) where the barrier used to be and it will register

[@bveracka]

@@JLNightmare Nice! Thanks for the tip and for trying it for me. I love skating in there and I'm really trying hard to 100% the game. I've had a really hard time doing the Manny mission in Veteran's Plaza - the BS 180 to 50-50 is killing me - but that's on me! Thanks again 👍

[@JLNightmare]

@@bveracka if youre still trying that Manny mission, after you pop, release both sticks while you FS 180 then reinput Left stick DOWN + Right stick UP to get the 5050. release sticks just as you get off the rail so nothing is held upon landing.

[@KATZFEY]

dude. i haven’t even done ONE mission cause i can’t find them, or can’t find the guy that i started the first mission on. and you did all of them. man 😂

[@JLNightmare]

Did you mod the game and install RMS tool? (If answer is yes, uninstall it because it makes missions disappear) If answer is No, are you using a custom skater? (Only custom skaters can do the story, not pro skaters)

[@KATZFEY]

@@JLNightmare i have ps4 so i’m just using 1.0 as it came, may just be some bugs on it or i haven’t looked through everything 😬

[@JLNightmare]

Strange… are you making sure to use the custom skater you created? Also what shows up when you pause the game, go to skater logs, missions? Can you track the first mission at the skate shop?

[@KATZFEY]

@@JLNightmare update… finished all the trackable missions. some of them were impossible without your videos lol

[@irvingalvarez5793]

My 360flip to Manny and pop out is not registering any tips?

[@alexvines5638]

did you do a video for the “entrance bay bank grind” i can’t find a video for it literally anywhere on youtube or your channel.

[@JLNightmare]

Yup, this video at 2 minutes kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKOTdHqwqJ2Hg8U

[@JDMtrojanfan]

Is the dickman board a secret mission board now or is it bugged, any one else complete all the dane missions and not get it again?

[@JLNightmare]

It wasn’t supposed to be in the game, so the devs muted it but never hid it from store… HOWEVER, it has been approved so in the next update, it will be available.

[@no.one.gaming]

@@JLNightmare Thank you! Been trying everything to get that board unlocked!!!

[@mello-sesh]

Thank you helped a lot kinked rail took several hours right side banister doesn’t register

[@alexvines5638]

hey man i’m trying to get to the untracked NPC’s in china banks. you said you can get there by going to Culture center, but where exactly in culture center?

[@JLNightmare]

Depends what one you’re looking for. Some are right next to the opening red gate, and the other one is along the edge. You can use the replay editor to quickly fly around and look for them

[@alexvines5638]

@@JLNightmare ok thanks

[@RubyRoks]

13:54 That looked SICK

[@shred6]

Probably too far gone to be answered, but... I go to the poster in Crea-ture Park, get the mission, get the list on the screen, and nothing is there. I've got 'track mission' on, but there's none of the squiggly lines marking what to trick over, and nothing gets checked off if I grind 4 meters or kickflip over the sewer or anything on the list. I exit the game & come back, get the distance-counter to CP and the squiggly spot-marker at the door, but once inside - same thing. Happened with the poster-mission at Veteran's Plaza as well, but only on the last trick I had to check off, which was the the four ledges: gone back several times with tracking, and no marker over those benches and can't finish the list. Driving me nuts!

[@JLNightmare]

Are you on Pc? If so, have you modded the game and added RMS tool?

[@shred6]

@@JLNightmare Actually, yeah - I should remove it to get the missions?

[@shred6]

Alright, if my memory was a bit better I would have recalled that, in JL's "How to install Mods" video, it's mentioned NOT to install the RMS toolsuite if you're still doing missions.... which I totally forgot and went and did anyway. And yep, it screwed with the game. Unfortunately, after deleting the RMS and Modmanager, the missions still don't work so I might do a game uninstall/reinstall (with the saved game folder moved to the desktop) and hope that works...

[@JLNightmare]

You actually just had to uncheck the RMS tool box just about Start Setting button in the Mod Manager. Don’t delete the mod manager in the future cause it’s how you remove mods properly haha Pretty sure uninstall and reinstall should work now tho and you’ll be able to bring your save file back since you are backing it up (but uninstall and reinstall doesn’t actually remove the save data, but still good to back it up

[@shred6]

@@JLNightmare I don't know what version of the mod manager I have - OK had - but it didn't have the on/off check option for the RMS. I'm obstinate so I looked for it like five times turning the MM off & on again thinking I was crazy, but yeah it just wasn't there😕. Still have to do the reinstall, and it better work or I'm buying a new PC - according to Steam I've clocked in 405 hours with 36 of the achievements so I'm way too invested to give it up😛.

[@joelvor6664]

Another bump to jump dont work for me it wont count the flip in

[@sammunson8894]

Idky, but my manuals stopped registering when I tried doing the manny bank challenge. Anyone know any fixes?

[@sammunson8894]

Nvm, it was fixed

[@nicolecollom1527]

Where do i find line from hell in new york i left the game came back and can not find it at all please help

[@JLNightmare]

Pyramid ledges map down the road near the veterans plaza

[@alexvines5638]

on the chatham plaza bank, the fake 360 flip im guessing i’m doing wrong. what exactly makes it a fakie bc im doing a 360 flip with a nollie and everything else i can think of and it still doesn’t register

[@JLNightmare]

Go SWITCH and do a “switch Nollie”. A Fakie Ollie is what that is called. So you’ll skate Switch and do the trick off the nose. Copy what I do in the video

[@alexvines5638]

@@JLNightmare ok i’ll give it a try

[@alexvines5638]

@@JLNightmare the input for the switch 360 flip is so weird, why do i go up for a nollie and then have to go back down and around. by the time my stick goes back down it isn’t in a nollie anymore to do the trick. i hope i said that properly for you to understand me

[@JLNightmare]

I don’t understand no. Watch how I do it in the video and copy exactly what I do. If you need to slow it down, in the bottom corner of KZbin there are settings, you can change playback setting to 0.2 speed and see what I do in slow motion

[@alexvines5638]

@@JLNightmare ok i’ll try again. and yea i did i still messed up somehow tho

[@flyg13]

Question for you, how do you reset all the missions after beating everything? I also think it’s kinda weak you don’t get a screen saying you’re done or congratulating you like every other game.

[@JLNightmare]

You just create another skater in the apartment and that skater will have a fresh story while keeping all other progress (money, inventory, historical challenges)

[@joshuaburke9793]

What setting of civilians do you set it to or can you do it all the way down? Thanks you da man bro

[@JLNightmare]

You don’t need pedestrians on at all for these missions to show up.

[@MasterFrostyGaming]

just finished the all the mission on auto catch is there any way i can redoing it but with manual catch for the achievement 😅

[@JLNightmare]

Yes, you just set Manual catch, then go to the apartment and create a new skater and do the story again with that new character (just never change back to auto till you’re done)

[@panic_diver]

Dude I am stuck at 13425 XP, I did all the hidden missions from this video. I have already completed all the story missions. Any idea what might be happening? Thanks for the amazing content for Session, best skateboarding game ever.

[@krazyy_klown_420]

Since this was posted a year ago is there any new hidden missions

[@JLNightmare]

Nope, everything in this video is still accurate to current version.

[@krazyy_klown_420]

@@JLNightmare thank you for letting me know 🙂🙂

[@joeyparkhill8751]

Jesse I still cannot get that Manny Pad challenge I have Quick-Shuvs universally enabled so what on Earth am I doing wrong? EDIT: Nevermind I got it!!

[@kane66able]

how do u do the fakie 360 flip in chatham plaza bank

[@JLNightmare]

Set your character in switch stance (either double tap Trigger to revert or if your off board Double tap Y) then set your spawn. Push towards the bank and switch Ollie Up. Hold front foot stick up then scoop it and flick the back foot to the side to make it Kickflip. If you’re on manual catch, flick back foot stick UP to catch. Make sure you Ollie off the ledge on the way back down. Just try to copy exactly what I do in the video. You can always post a clip of your attempts so I can properly assess the issue you’re having.

[@kane66able]

@@JLNightmare u make doing the fakie 360 flip look so easy

[@sodasneaks]

I'm having a hard time finishing the low pop ollie grind/slide mission with Daewon Song. Any tips/tricks?

[@JLNightmare]

Check this video at 330 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX6qep2BiZt-fc0

[@sodasneaks]

@@JLNightmare Nice! Didn't realize there was a control for low pop ollie's. Mission complete ✅

[@nerdbag004]

I can't get the FS bigspin on the Philly shop rails

[@JLNightmare]

Make sure you are popping the shove (flick up on front foot before letting go of back foot) and try landing in a Fakie 5-0

[@nerdbag004]

@@JLNightmare oh is that what you're supposed to do? I kept landing in a FS overcook or boardslide

[@JLNightmare]

Well you don’t have to do that (and the game won’t call it a Fakie 5-0) but as long as you do Bigspin to a grind it should be good BUT, you have to make sure you are popping the shove and not doing a quick shove (so be very sure you are flicking front foot Up before you let go of back foot stick)

[@nerdbag004]

@@JLNightmare ohhh that's why it's not registering heh

[@nerdbag004]

Finally got it thanks 🙏 it took me like a week

[@jameshession9038]

Hi JL, with historical challenges if I do a line in the opposite stance but I just use the opposite side of the same rails during the line and everything's the same apart from the stance, will they work? Sorry to hassle you, but you're my reliable go to for all these matters 😁

[@JLNightmare]

Yes if you’re talking about the welcome to hell line and the Nate line at the banks, you can do it in any stance as long as the rail at the end is the same.

[@jameshession9038]

@@JLNightmare thanks dude 👍

[@hecnoel704]

How can I add mods to xbox . . Can't find a video. Everything is through steam

[@JLNightmare]

You can’t, you can only mod on PC

[@hecnoel704]

@@JLNightmare sucks I do see people using xbox remotes

[@hecnoel704]

Thnx

[@bellabear653]

Hey what's up with the extra network?

[@JLNightmare]

What do you mean…

[@alexvines5638]

any tips for the line from hell?

[@apcoalypse]

In my opinion its very easy with ollie to FS crooked.

[@koltbonta8876]

How can you get the manual catch achievement if you didn’t have it in the whole game

[@JLNightmare]

What are you talking about? Do you mean that you had it on Auto before you changed it to manual and it didn’t pop up? Cause you need to set it to Manual Catch THEN create a new skater in the apartment and start the story

[@koltbonta8876]

@@JLNightmare Yes, I meant if you didn’t have it ON the whole time. Thank you

[@p1rz666]

Where is Tom Asta, Tiago Lemos and the others pro's who were in the alfa? Will they be added again later or will we never see them again in this game? Would be cool if they came later as ekstra missions or something :)

[@JLNightmare]

Dude you’re thinking of Skater XL hahaha This is Session, has way more pro skaters to choose from, just not the ones that are in Skater XL. To use the pros that are in Session, go to the apartment and go to the closest, select the skater in there

[@p1rz666]

@@JLNightmare DOH! hahaha

[@TimothyChavez-e1q]

I've gotten better at this game but how do u do 360 flips

[@JLNightmare]

Scoop the back foot 1/2 (from bottom to top) * if you’re regular you’ll scoop Clockwise, if you’re goofy you’ll scoop counter clockwise* then flick front foot to the side *if regular front foot flicks Left, if goofy front foot flicks Right

[@DuceBurns]

I'm so down with horrified Hank Hill.

[@fixedfocusfilm3068]

I've logged 657 hours into Session. Beat the story mode. Got most achievements. But I cannot complete the Line From Hell mission! This is driving me crazy!

[@JLNightmare]

You can cheese it by doing everything on 1 bench. Set a marker next to the bench and just pop on and pop off (don’t respawn after just readjust then repeat) Or you can boost your grind alignment to make grinds stay locked in. Hope you get it, it’s a rough challenge but at least it’s one that registers properly unlike some of the other challenges hahaha

[@fixedfocusfilm3068]

@@JLNightmare I just figured it out (before I saw your reply): switched to a bigger board (I prefer 7.9 but that wasn't working), threw on the widest trucks in the game, and added some Satori conicals. After that, I just needed to adjust my camera to line up better. Thanks so much, though!

[@joshpar9402]

Ive got 2 clips of grind to grind, no completion. Ive done it like 6 times. I feel like im losing my mind.

[@joshpar9402]

After three hours of returning to session marker I got it, I really wanted FS Crook-Nollie Flip-Noseslide-Nollie Flip, I got my clip of that, but I had like 3-4 Nosegrind-Nollie flip-Crooked-Nollie Flips that didn't complete it. After hearing you say Ollies count I just Nosegrind-Nollie-Nosegrind-Nollie and got to read "How many tries did it take you?" 🙃

[@Andres_V]

I can't do the f*cking chatham plaza bank, I do hundreds of lasers but doesn't work 😤

[@criminvlmvnnx]

I do just for the archievements

[@DorienKalifornia]

So glad I finished everything and gotten all achievements. Now I can focus on making content, video parts and just hoping for more dope content from crea-ture in the future.

[@KidKraine]

Did you complete all the historic challenges?

[@DorienKalifornia]

Yup

[@KidKraine]

@@DorienKalifornia how long it take? Is it worth it? And how hard is it lol

[@DorienKalifornia]

@@KidKraine 1. About 2 weeks. 2. It’s worth it if you wanna be a be a completionist lol 3. For me it was a good challenge considering I used manual catch for all of them. If you want my settings here ya go kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6CTnIhnn89rd9U

[@KidKraine]

@@DorienKalifornia your a legend 🫡 cheers to you brother, I do not have the patience for that

[@stoneymahoney3512]

How i geht the DC Shirts and Shoes ?🥺

[@JLNightmare]

Just complete all the Pro story missions and you should get it eventually. I got it pretty early tho

[@2BasedBrett]

How do you have people walking around? My session is a ghost town!

[@JLNightmare]

Enable City Life in the experimental tab. Keep in mind they will not show up in every map, just a few

[@2BasedBrett]

@@JLNightmare Thankyou

[@BenTallakson]

there are no pedestrians in my game, anyone know why?

[@JLNightmare]

Enable them in the experimental tab under City Life. Remember that they won’t show up in every map, just the main big maps

[@jubju_services]

Took me 30 minutes to land the 12 benches 💀

[@guaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

What about 3flip trophy?

[@JLNightmare]

It has a bug, you have to do Bs 360 Pop Shove for it to count. Do 500 of those instead of 360 flips.

[@guaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

@@JLNightmare thanks dude youre the goat

[@guaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

Only need the “turn pro” trophy need help

[@guaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

@@JLNightmare thats how its done is the trophy

[@JLNightmare]

Create a second character in apartment (don’t need to delete first character) then change Catch mode to Manual. If the tutorial pops up, you can Skip it then change the setting. Make sure Manual catch is on before you head to the first mission at the skate shop. Do not gameplay change preset OR Manual catch back to Auto AT ALL till you get trophy. You’re free to change any gameplay settings individually (yes stats menu too)

[@justingoddard5093]

Does anyone know whos on the phone?

[@Betao25]

Probably a Future DLC character

[@ryanwarner4704]

w series

[@gatttIing]

How to unlock Adidas or DC shoes ?

[@JLNightmare]

Question… is almost everything locked in your skate shop? Cause there should be some adidas and DC shoes available at all times.. (same with almost everything in the shop)

[@gatttIing]

@@JLNightmare no, they come with update that I’ve got on my second game session. And there’s only these three pairs of shoes that locked. 1) Like you’ve got 2) Daewon’s adidas 3) Adidas “ProModel”. All other stuff in skate shop available from the beginning of the game.

[@JLNightmare]

Ah ok good, cause there’s a bug that locks EVERYTHING. I think you just have to complete the pros missions to unlock those items

[@gatttIing]

@@JLNightmare ok, thank you, cause I’ve started to worrying about maybe it’s a bug 🤝

[@gatttIing]

Also, right after your video I’ve tried to beat jam with your switch Ollie hack, and it doesn’t worked for me. On my first and only first attempt yet, I’ve got only 4.0 with all my tricks and your hack. I’m playing on PS4, idk maybe it’s important information.

[@dirtbagzrus]

Do u get an award if u complete all the missions? I think I’ve completed everything

[@JLNightmare]

No, you just just get the satisfaction of completing 100% of the missions haha

[@dirtbagzrus]

@@JLNightmare thanks homie!!! Ur videos got me get that 13775 exposure!

[@leventeszaffenauer4142]

Guess which one i couldnt do so far 😂

[@jack_r9875]

im soo angry bc i played through the story for a 2nd time but with manual catch on and i didnt get the achievement. i have no clue why game just hates me

[@JLNightmare]

You have to set Manual catch Before you create a new skater in the apartment. So set it to manual catch now, then go to the apartment, create a new skater, do the story with that skater and don’t turn back go Auto catch at all till you get the achievement

[@jack_r9875]

@@JLNightmare ah didn’t know it needed to be before I’d even made a character, thx imma beat it a 3rd time now I want this damn achievement lmaoo

[@breckin190]

Anyone else’s replays have a glitched character, like ur skater just looks all deformed

[@breckin190]

Ya basically my whole fit and board too

[@tschweinar]

Finally 🎮

[@ryanrowe1975]

W

[@SD-jf1tm]

Let’s gooooo

[@ultimatenirvanatribute]

This video made me feel kind of dumb. I ran out of missions, and had already completed all of these my random luck and kept asking myself why i never got the achievement for completing this on manual catch. 3 days later, rewatched the video, ran around in game for a few hours then discovered i already had the achievement for it......

[@JLNightmare]

😂 don’t worry, seems like a common things that happens.. not just for trophies but for Historical Challenges too haha