I love how Byleth just brings the squad in to fight the hands. It was really enjoyable to just see these two get jumped, especially when they kinda just kill most creative theming with Classic Mode Runs.
@micheledelloglio58203 жыл бұрын
The fun fact is that Byleth bringing the whole squad to the fight is a reference on how FE works, recruiting allies and fight alongside them
@Underworlder53 жыл бұрын
@@micheledelloglio5820 would be interesting if the opponent of one battle would fight alongside you in the next. could help with easing that massive difficulty of byleth classic mode
@firewolf950tfwgaming73 жыл бұрын
@@Underworlder5 Personally Byleth’s classic mode is doable solo with the only problematic round being the 2 corrins because how they hell do they have such good synergy?
@Underworlder53 жыл бұрын
@@firewolf950tfwgaming7 that is what gets me too. the first couple fights are easy. the awakening cast are slightly harder, but are easy to isolate. the corrins? huge difficulty spike. they outshine you in basically any strategy, whether you try zoning or going up close, and byleths poor throws combined with the stamina setup makes cheesing arguably more difficult than fighting normally. the battle against the other byleths are slightly easier, since they tend to restrict themselves to each weapon (none of which aim upwards, making them susceptible to attacks from above, and two of them are rather slow and telegraphed), but nerves usually get me at that time might have gone on a tangent here, but sheesh, that difficulty spike. i find the steve fight in norfair hard as well, but that can at least be cheesed with a well placed black hole and up tilt spam
@guy28703 жыл бұрын
I wish they tried doing it with persona 5
@valenetta80173 жыл бұрын
Joker's classic mode allies are a reference to him capturing the shadows and turning them into his personas since that's what happens in the game. Just wanted to clear this up, great video overall!
@MosesX-Labs3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s what I was thinking. The people that get their hearts changed don’t team up with the Phantom Theives.
@Aaronitmar3 жыл бұрын
Persona isn’t my speciality and I knew there was a good chance I’d miss something. Thanks for clearing it up!
@SuperCaptureDevice3 жыл бұрын
@@Aaronitmar And it's not evil people, it's corrupted people. And only Futaba, who also has her own heart willingly changed, joins the Phantom Thieves.
@smashybox3 жыл бұрын
It also reminded me of persona 4 where your friends become your party members once you beat their shadows.
@steelbeans3 жыл бұрын
Similarly, that isnt Dark Meta Knight, just an evil looking skin. Weird they didnt use DMK
@LoneOtaku1583 жыл бұрын
Details missed in Joker’s Classic mode: -Joker isn’t necessarily “turning people good”, but rather taking the Shadows as his own Personas. -The fight with Kirby uses Kalos Pokémon League alongside with the music being “Aria of the Soul”, which is a stand-in for the recurring Velvet Room location. -The blue Kirby ally and the twin Samus’ are fought on the Persona 3 version of Mementos, with Mass Destruction playing in the background. Aigis and Metis both originate from Persona 3, and the Blue Kirby is just for visual consistency. -The fight against the Dark Links is on the Persona 4 version of Mementos, with Reach out to the Truth playing in the background. The Fierce Deity Link could be a reference to Izanagi’s Ultimate form. The yellow Meta Knight is once again for visual consistency with Persona 4. -The Master/Crazy hand fight in mementos makes sense here, as both they and Joker are voiced by Xander Mobus, aka the Smash announcer.
@slippahmastah3 жыл бұрын
-The Fierce Deity Link coulbe be a reference to Izanagi’s Ultimate form. -The fight with Kirby uses Kalos Pokémon League alongside with the music being “Aria of the Soul”, which is a stand-in for the recurring Velvet Room location.
@oryionterrell64983 жыл бұрын
Also that's not dark Meta Knight simply meta Knight with a black mask and red eyes dark Meta Knight is one of meta knights alt costumes (the mask with the scratch on the right eye and silver sword)
@jokingbanana10423 жыл бұрын
I thought dark Kirby was black frost and blue Kirby was Jack Frost when I went through the classic mode but maybe I’m wrong
@DjoingDalton3 жыл бұрын
Correction on Joker, he's not turning people good, he's taking the Shadows as his Personas, like he does with regular enemies.
@hiddenscorpiusXI3 жыл бұрын
Yes, he's turning the Evil Shadows into the Good Personas. The only thing Aaron missed is the reference to Joker "recruiting" Personas to grant him their powers.
@maskedgamerjoker61483 жыл бұрын
It could also be a Persona 4 reference when you have to fight future party members Shadow Selves, so that they weaken and they accept dark secret and obtain their persona’s.
@mamu31253 жыл бұрын
@@maskedgamerjoker6148 na, thats just the battle against the links. O mean, the negotioations have ever been one of the most caracteristic thing of Megami Tensei
@christianlopez7073 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but I really like the image of Joker trying to take Erdricks face in the thumbnail.
@BamBamo3 жыл бұрын
No.
@sentris52933 жыл бұрын
@@BamBamo hey look, it's the guy
@christianlopez7073 жыл бұрын
@@BamBamo why not?
@funkyboi39873 жыл бұрын
Joker, the dark lord
@littlepacman10wo383 жыл бұрын
"Show me your true form."
@QueenSharotto3 жыл бұрын
Off topic funny side note: Xander Mobus gets to kick his own ass in Joker’s Classic Mode boss.
@NinjaPickle3 жыл бұрын
Joker: "I don't want to fight you" Master and Crazy Hand: "We wouldn't want to fight us neither"
@Dan_-3 жыл бұрын
To paraphrase a comment I once saw someone somewhere say, "You can play as Xander Mobus fighting Xander Mobus and Xander Mobus while Xander Mobus congratulates Xander Mobus for beating Xander Mobus and Xander Mobus."
@eggyt11533 жыл бұрын
Context: Joker, The Announcer and the Hands are all voiced by Xander Mobus.
@eggyt11533 жыл бұрын
Also, Banjo & Kazooie kick their own asses at the beginning of their route
@YounesLayachi3 жыл бұрын
Xander Mobius doesn't voice joker, actually, neither in smash nor in his original game. Rather the announcer voice is used for localisation into english
@Linkfan0013 жыл бұрын
The end of Byleth's route may also be a reference to their ability to recruit the members of the other houses in 3 Houses. Something something, Crest of Flame gives +infinity charisma.
@josuefiallos95753 жыл бұрын
Little fun fact about the final fight of hero's classic mode, Robin turning into a dragon is also a reference to the final fight of his game, fire emblem awakening, where he is the reincarnation of the dragon, Grima
@micheledelloglio58203 жыл бұрын
"Dammit, Grima, stop invading other franchises"
@fernandobanda57343 жыл бұрын
To be fair, a LOT of JRPGs end up with "humanoid final boss turns into a huge monster for his final form".
@josuefiallos95753 жыл бұрын
@@fernandobanda5734 you make a fair point
@UptownBassoon3 жыл бұрын
@@fernandobanda5734 yeah but I'm pretty sure Dragon Quest 1 was the first game to do that
@fernandobanda57343 жыл бұрын
@@UptownBassoon I think so too but that has nothing to do with this thread
@sonicpsycho3 жыл бұрын
I’d say joker’s classic route was more likely referencing how joker has the ability to recruit the shadows he fights and add them to his repertoire of personas rather than just the shadows turning good. The character references were probably correct though Idk.
@OriginalGameteer3 жыл бұрын
At the very least Incineroar is definitely meant to reference Shido The Aigis/Metis one I'm unsure of but the details do make it seem intentional
@Sol-hu6db3 жыл бұрын
“each character uses their respective weapons” 12:58 Edelgard: ahaha.. no.
@speedybxi3 жыл бұрын
*suddenly aquires crest of blaiddyd
@RetroBeetle3 жыл бұрын
@@speedybxi _SPOILERS FOR THREE HOUSES_ Technically, anyone with the Crest of Flames can wield any Hero's Relic or Sacred Weapon without taking recoil damage, so Edelgard would be able to use Areadbhar anyway (the only problem being that such a thing is impossible in Three Houses).
@micheledelloglio58203 жыл бұрын
@@RetroBeetle Technnically speaking, everyone with a crest can wield any relic without suffers damage. The real power of the matching crests is unleashing their true power by resonating with the crest stone(the unique weapon art they provide with matching crests). SPOILER . . . . . . . . The thing is that Edelgard cannot properly wield the Sword of Creator or use Ruptured Sky because the crest stone is in Byleth's chest, that's why he is the only one that can wield it. If the crest stone was in the sword, everybody with a crest could use it, but only Edelgard(and Nemesis) could use Ruptured Sky
@uniremnant1193 жыл бұрын
@@RetroBeetle it’s been out for two years (I think) no one cares about spoilers but at least someone’s out there warning people. I respect you
@doggosdoodles52543 жыл бұрын
Erdrick’s fight taking place in the volcano is actually a reference to the opening of Dragon Quest 3, where the hero’s father is seen fighting along the rim of an active volcano!
@aerth69463 жыл бұрын
oH hey, someone said it first! Yes!
@mrwrigh3 жыл бұрын
I never played 3 but I've seen that scene so many times in GBC and NES. So awesome
@ArdorG.3 жыл бұрын
I still remember the first time I got to the end of Byleth’s classic mode route and just grinning knowing how much love my favorite franchise got in Smash. Does it have a lot of representation? Yeah. But I am *certainly* not complaining.
@Girjon053 жыл бұрын
I agree, i love the fire emblem franchise. But the sad part is, this franchise has such a weapon variety, but we only get the sword characters.
@theghosttm82453 жыл бұрын
@@Girjon05 Good thing Byleth is unique.
@micheledelloglio58203 жыл бұрын
@@theghosttm8245 "So, Byleth, wich part of the Weapon Triangle you wanna use?" Byleth "Yes" Byleth is damn fun and has arguably the best Classic mode of FE characters
@Underworlder53 жыл бұрын
to be fair, while FE has great fighter and music representation, it kind of gets shafted everywhere else. fairly generic stages until garreg mach monastery, only one item to its name, and surprisingly few assist trophies for such a character driven series (the other nintendo series with a massive roster, pokemon, has the pokeball item to show it off). one of my hopes for the series is actually to cut a few fighters in exchange for massively increasing the assist trophy number. some see it as a fighter graveyard, but i see it as an honorable mention, and allows characters to fight in smash despite not being playable girjon, that is why i want hector to be playable. he avoids the typical swordfighter stigma, is a fan favorite among the FE community, and thanks to FE heroes, remains relevant in present day. i feel the only people who would complain about him are those who just hate FE in general
@mythoughtsexactly21453 жыл бұрын
@@Underworlder5 it would be nice if Smash has the Summoner's weapon from FEH and use it to call a hero like the Pokeball item
@KingConnor5233 жыл бұрын
Thank you for reminding everyone of Rareware’s legacy within in Nintendo aka making Donkey Kong what it is today. A fine reminder that Rare still has a bit of a presence in Nintendo to this day
@nintendoplaystationandxbox10883 жыл бұрын
Presence what does that mean like rare can make games on switch ?
@KingConnor5233 жыл бұрын
@@nintendoplaystationandxbox1088 as in Donkey Kong wouldn’t be what it is today without Rare after redesigning the series as Donkey Kong Country
@nintendoplaystationandxbox10883 жыл бұрын
@@KingConnor523 oh ok
@ultragamer88163 жыл бұрын
“Dragons are common in Dragon quest” NO WAY
@aerth69463 жыл бұрын
They are indeed common, but not in major roles.
@BlazerT483 жыл бұрын
Who would have guessed!
@DigiPen923 жыл бұрын
6:38 @Aaronitmar The Dragon Quest III hero's name was confirmed by Sakurai in the Hero Presentation that he said his name as Arusu while Erdrick is more of the title of the descendant plus, Eleventh Hero is called Eleven.
@Underworlder53 жыл бұрын
in the case of eleven, he is mainly referred by his title of luminary, so i can understand primarily calling him that (of course this is because DQ XI is voice acted, and so has to avoid referring to him by name, but it still counts)
@aerth69463 жыл бұрын
His name is Arus in many pieces of media, Sakurai just said it was for the sake of diferentiating them. But many still refer to him as Erdrick or Roto.
@princesshannah73 жыл бұрын
Out of context, "a tiny red Robin" sounds like the most adorable boss fight ever.
@logandulken1633 жыл бұрын
Just casually revealing the final boss of persona 5 without warning
@RosalinaSama3 жыл бұрын
and dragon quest 1 smh smh
@Underworlder53 жыл бұрын
@@RosalinaSama to be fair, would anyone go "ah, no. i wanted to play dragon quest 1 without spoilers"?
@RosalinaSama3 жыл бұрын
@@Underworlder5 why would they do that for persona 5
@Underworlder53 жыл бұрын
@@RosalinaSama that one was a bit of a misstep, but to be fair, smash itself casually spoils games all the time, as far back as in melee (sheik is zelda in disguise. melee came out three years after ocarina of time)
@ZoofyZoof3 жыл бұрын
Who watches this expecting there to not be spoilers? Lol wtf
@pedrosantos38773 жыл бұрын
Banjo and Kazooie final boss should be Bayonetta. She's a witch after all
@avocado94663 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and she could make reference to gruntilda when she steals banjos sister beauty
@forhisneutralspecialhewiel22953 жыл бұрын
Banjonetta
@popplio78913 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Rathalos was added to plant’s route for “being a new boss”. By that logic, Dracula, Marx, and Ganon would also apply. I think Rathalos was chosen for three potential reasons. 1. Since both the Plant and Rathalos are not specific characters, and are more common enemies in their series. 2. Rathalos is not a new fighter, but he is a new assist trophy and the only one who is also a boss. 3. Perhaps a Monster Hunter was planned as a newcomer but cut off during development. So maybe Rathalos was placed as the boss of the route to fill in the Monster Hunter representation. Also, you aren’t technically wrong with Diddy AND Donkey originating from Rare, since the DK of today is technically the grandson of the OG DK, who is now Cranky Kong. While Temple might be the stage you fight Marth and Roy on in Melee, it is also possible that since you only fight Marth here, it might be a reference to chapter 23 of Shadow Dragon, where Marth and his army must climb the a tower in order to obtain Falchion from Gharnef and his many illusionary doppelgängers. The architecture and background of Temple reminds me of that chapter, so this is just my speculation. I’m probably talking out my ass on this one. Also, I’m in full agreement on Hero’s route being the best in the pass. Good job on the video.
@emanueltheodorus10563 жыл бұрын
Actually, the new boss means that Rathalos is the NEWEST boss to debut. Out of all 7 bosses in the game, Rathalos debuts the last. Just like how Dracula is chosen as Pac-Man's boss as he debuts the first out of all 7 bosses. Edit, for context, Dracula debuts in 1986, Marx debuts in 1996, OOT Ganon debuts in 1998, Master Hand debuts in 1999, Giga Bowser and Crazy Hand debuted in 2001, and Rathalos debuts in 2004.
@zentendoxn89553 жыл бұрын
@@emanueltheodorus1056 SEVEN bosses? I see you forgot Galleom exists. He would be the latest introduction, at 2008. So purely by that logic, Pirahna Plant’s boss fight should be against Galleom. (Well, technically Galeem and Dharkon count as the latest debuts, in 2018, but they seem to be exclusive to World of Light, and haven’t appeared in Classic mode yet) However, even then, Aaronitmar said one of the newest bosses to the Smash series, and Rathalos is two (or three, depending upon how you see Smash 3DS) entries newer to Smash than Galleom.
@emanueltheodorus10563 жыл бұрын
@@zentendoxn8955 Right, how the hell did I forgot about Galleom, I'm so fucking stupid. I guess besides newest to debut, it also means the newest to the series. And that cuts it into Dracula, Marx, Ganon, and Rathalos. And Rathalos is the newest to debut out of all of them, so that's the reason it's in the route.
@neypaz80543 жыл бұрын
Rathalos was chosen because it's representing a wholly new universe (Monster Hunter). 1.- Master and Crazy Hand, Giga Bowser and Galleom are original Smash bosses and already appeared in prior Smash games. Also, Giga Bowser is based directly on Bowser, whose universe was already represented in the Smash series with him, Mario, Luigi, Peach, Dr, Mario, Rosalina, and Bowser Jr., and is also referenced in this route with Daisy and the very protagonist you're playing as. 2.- Ganon is from The Legend of Zelda which was already represented in prior games with Link, Zelda, Sheik, Young and Toon Link, and Ganondorf. 3.- Marx is from Kirby, which was already represented in prior games with Kirby, King Dedede and Meta Knight. 4.- Dracula is from Castlevania, which is represented for the first time in Smash thanks to Ultimate. But Castlevania is already referenced in this Classic Mode route with Simon and Richter. 5.- Galeem and Dharkon, on top of being ruled out for the same reason as the bosses mentioned at the start, are exclusive to Adventure Mode to begin with. That leaves Rathalos as the only boss from an universe that was neither represented beforehand with any character, nor in this game otherwise. So it was chosen as the final boss for Piranha Plant's route.
@OmegaX50003 жыл бұрын
The ending to Byleth's Classic mode is absolutely hilarious. I burst out laughing when I reached that final battle and saw the conga line of Fire Emblem protagonists as the Hands flew in. Even better was when the squad wiped out the Hands in a matter of seconds before anyone could get hurt! XD
@Underworlder53 жыл бұрын
after the hell that is the corrin and byleth fights, i welcome the chance to turn a normally difficult boss into mincemeat
@micheledelloglio58203 жыл бұрын
"Master Hand and Crazy Hand, remember when most people say our true strenght are the friend we make along the way?" "Ehr, yes" "Here in FE we take that LITERALLY" *proceed to bullying the bossfight*
@misterzygarde64313 жыл бұрын
You know if Dragon Quest was a mega hit in the U.S. like it was in Japan, do you think we’d have a soccer riot during E3 2019 when Hero and Banjo were revealed?
@christianlopez7073 жыл бұрын
Debatable. The heroes make the most sense but I think some people would prefer some of the other characters or the monsters if given the option. Unless they are very passionate about the series then they would be hyped either way.
@el_zinga3 жыл бұрын
@@christianlopez707 I played DQ Rocket Slime as a kid. If Rocket was the character, I would have flipped a lid.
@cashordeals36723 жыл бұрын
I mean look how people flipped when sephiroth and cloud was revealed dragon quest would have been ear rape
@christianlopez7073 жыл бұрын
@@cashordeals3672 Out of all the heroes Eight probably got the biggest reaction out of people. Sense DQ8 sold pretty good outside of Japan, not FF7 levels but still decent.
@mattwo73 жыл бұрын
@@christianlopez707 What about Luminary? DQXI seems to be the Persona 4 of Dragon Quest just as DWVII and DQVIII were the Persona 3 of Dragon Quest. Now we just need a Persona 5 of Dragon Quest to give it that final push into the mainstream.
@NintyMinty3 жыл бұрын
Bro that thumbnail is holy
@Fallentoast3453 жыл бұрын
Is it tho?
@Skypatroller_BenCD3 жыл бұрын
Finally I found the Earthbound 0/beginning protagonist
@danthony86813 жыл бұрын
@@Fallentoast345 it is tho
@mrwoomy89623 жыл бұрын
"Show me your true form"
@Chivashermanemos3 жыл бұрын
This is why Nintendo ssb doesn't give a s***
@amarioguy3 жыл бұрын
I think a cool idea of Byleth’s classic mode would be having him fight characters that represent students in 3 houses, for example, lucina in her golden costume to represent ingrid, Gannodorf representing Dedue, the pink haired inkling to represent hapi, Simon to represent balthus, Ness to represent ashe, etc
@arte71253 жыл бұрын
Is it safe to assume that your favorite route is Blue Lions? Also it's funny that you mention 2 Cindered Shadow characters as well, since I believe the Byleth Smash reveal was released months before CS, so that probably wouldn't be possible.
@ianpham43913 жыл бұрын
I think Hilda fits the pink haired inkling better than Hapi.
@JJ-ml7pq3 жыл бұрын
Re: Joker's classic mode I'm actually kinda surprised you didn't mention the mechanic of taking certain Shadows as your own Persona. As a Persona protagonist, Joker has the ability to have more than one Persona, which are primarily gained by convincing an enemy to join you. This is significant because most others only get one if any. From the way each new round seems to feature at least one former enemy from the previous round, it seems a lot like that's what Joker's doing.
@Sjono3 жыл бұрын
“Ok this isn’t true anymore. I made this video before Kazuya’s reveal.” * Cries in Min Min
@AverageEggmonEnthusiast3 жыл бұрын
Arms is a fighting game but I wouldn’t call it a “traditional” fighting game? I see your point though.
@ballisticboo78083 жыл бұрын
@@AverageEggmonEnthusiast I mean, it's a 3d arena fighter, same as Tekken
@inceldestroyer10693 жыл бұрын
@@ballisticboo7808 it uses motion controls and doesnt really have the same type of combos
@OseiTheWarriors3 жыл бұрын
@@ballisticboo7808 ARMS and Tekken are nothing alike. ARMS is it's own style of game not at all similar to 3D fighting games. Look at Dead or Alive, Soul Calibur, and Virtua Fighter. Those games are far more like Tekken.
@israelcadetftwsierra82543 жыл бұрын
And Little mac
@EvilReuniclusWalkthroughs3 жыл бұрын
Palutena and Athena seemingly even have the same inspiration; the Greek(?) goddess Pallas-Athena. When turned into Japanese, the name Pallas-Athena becomes Paruthena, then that turned into English becomes Palutena.
@tagon23813 жыл бұрын
Pallas-Athena is Greek yes. Though Pallas-Athena is essentially a subset of Athena, which I think mostly the Spartans worshipped if I’m not mistaken.
@sonicstar9173 жыл бұрын
O_O Genius.
@fernandobanda57343 жыл бұрын
I think Palutena in Japanese was meant to be a portmanteau of Parthenon and Athena, but don't quote me on that.
@jimmysmash12363 жыл бұрын
I think the fight against sonic, mega man, and pac man is supposed to represent 3rd party characters since terry himself is a 3rd party, I could be wrong but that’s just what I think.
@papaG64233 жыл бұрын
Sort of a "Team Mascot" or "Team 3rd Party" situation. Not to mention, all three have appeared in fighting games outside of Smash (especially Mega Man)
@jimmysmash12363 жыл бұрын
True
@guyonyoutube38503 жыл бұрын
Sakuri heard all the complaining of the Fire Emblem characters so he made a classic mode where you can kill all of them
@dustymcwari44683 жыл бұрын
And then use them to kill hecking Master and Crazy Hand that mess with a lot of Classic Mode themes
@monsterjamfan100xtreme43 жыл бұрын
He knew our pain and decided to use it in classic mode.
@ombraura91183 жыл бұрын
Dumbest interpretation I've ever seen... next to the thing where he supposedly did it for the few random people complaining about the legitimate and normal amount of Master and Crazy Hand fights
@guyonyoutube38503 жыл бұрын
@@ombraura9118 I like making jokes
@skykid8633 жыл бұрын
4:51 You forgot to mention it's Xander Mobus vs Xander Mobus.
@zeroplayer1203 жыл бұрын
Correction: Xander Mobus vs Xander Mobus and Xander Mobus
@skykid8633 жыл бұрын
@@zeroplayer120 🤣
@Underworlder53 жыл бұрын
@@skykid863 and if the announcer was present during the fight, it would have been xander mobus watching xander mobus fight xander mobus and xander mobus
@skykid8633 жыл бұрын
@@Underworlder5 OH MY GOD! YES!
@Dan_-3 жыл бұрын
Xander Mobus congratulating Xander Mobus for defeating Xander Mobus and Xander Mobus.
@thecrazyimp993 жыл бұрын
8:53 the fight could also be a reference to the trailer Banjo and Kazooie was announced.
@c.c.65383 жыл бұрын
G&W's "dark version" in Joker's classic mode is just regular G&W How fitting
@smt64productions403 жыл бұрын
Given Brawl where Mr. Game & Watch was use for the Shadow Bugs
@EchoSaefir3 жыл бұрын
A little detail about Terry's Boss Fight is that, if the player is using the P1 Costume, Blue Terry is the chosen costume to replace default Terry. This is both because the blue costume is Terry's default alternate costume in FF/KOF and also because Blue Terry is implied to be a different character in Fatal Fury, who faces off against Terry in mirror matches during his arcade mode in several FF games.
@bob99_93 жыл бұрын
13:28 "my favorite route is probably Hero's route" "shows Byleth footage"
@joshualedesmasegovia3 жыл бұрын
I’m so excited for Kazuya Mishima and what will his Classic Mode look like
@ThatFurryTeen3 жыл бұрын
His classic mode will look like his classic mode
@joshualedesmasegovia3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatFurryTeen My Idea for Kazuya Mishima’s Classic Mode in Super Smash Bros Ultimate Ganondorf Representing Ancient Ogre Ryu and Ken Masters together as a Reference for Street Fighter x Tekken Terry Bogard Representing Geese Howard Cloud Strife Representing Noctis Lucis Caelum
@Joker_Kirby3 жыл бұрын
@@joshualedesmasegovia And the Boss?
@joshualedesmasegovia3 жыл бұрын
@@Joker_Kirby Maybe Ganondorf for Ancient Ogre
@slygambit97753 жыл бұрын
Gotta have a battle where he fights Incinaroar who would rep king
@1324cmoikev3 жыл бұрын
My favorite classic modes are the ones with Master & Crazy Hand as a boss simply because they make you so unnecessarily salty.
@Antonio-is2cn3 жыл бұрын
"Team Retro" Sonic Pac-Man Mega Man are a nod to the fact that these 3 characters had a game on the Neo Geo Pocket Color console
@infernoman9993 жыл бұрын
Definitely looking forward to the next fighter pass in many months to come. Your videos are amazing and informative and they teach me a lot about different games.
@acedelta123 жыл бұрын
12:45 He said Edelgard first. I have mad respect for him now.
@Acacius19923 жыл бұрын
That intermission at 11:20 was gold xD
@papaG64233 жыл бұрын
6:48 is probably a reference to Alefgard in DQ3 which became the dark realm when Zoma took over the land. There is also a volcano near Jipang, a Japanese-inspired city, that has a similar theme to castle siege where you fight the multi-headed dragon, Orochi. Edit: also, I love the part of Banjo's classic mode where they fight DK and Diddy. It just feels nice.
@Joltscene3 жыл бұрын
For Joker it’s more of its the monsters you fight and the reason why they are fighting with you is because it’s your Persona now as Shadows can be Personas
@megamanfan33 жыл бұрын
2:30 Don't forget that the Persona series is, in fact, based off of the Shin Megami Tensei series.
@OTHERMRBABCOCK3 жыл бұрын
Note on Byleth’s route: if you choose the Edelgard, Claude, or Dimitri color, the CPU will NOT change. Only fight to do this.
@fernandobanda57343 жыл бұрын
This also happens with Hero when you fight regular DQ11 Hero and tony red Robin.
@KorbGamin3 жыл бұрын
Mans got sponsored by Disney mad respect
@MariuigiKhed3 жыл бұрын
8:53 no, rare CREATED Donkey Kong... The Third. The previous is young Cranky Kong
@drewdonewell25683 жыл бұрын
Whoever draws these thumbnails is a great artist
@TheWaverunners3 жыл бұрын
Just a couple thing you may have missed: 2:01 This pairing of K Rool and Chrom may be a reference to the fact that they were both relegated to Mii Fighter outfits in Smash 4. 4:29 Similar to the Aigis and Metis reference on the Persona 3 Mementos section, the Links may be a Persona 4 reference. In Persona 4, you specifically fight shadow versions of your party members, similar to Link having to fight a Shadow version of himself across the series. In addition, Fierce Deity Link becoming your ally likely references the protagonist's ultimate Persona in P4. 8:26 Possibly unintentional, but the choice to have Fox and Falco in lieu of other potential pairs (Mario/Luigi, Robin/Chrom, Ken/Ryu, etc) is likely a reference to the fact that Rare created a Star Fox game (Star Fox Adventures, originally known as Dinosaur Planet). The pairing in particular may also be a loose reference to fact that Falco comes to Fox's rescue at the end of Adventures and helps him take down Andross. 10:19 Likely unintentional, but you could also call them "Team X Zone", as the 3DS Project X Zone series features characters from specifically across Sega, Capcom, and Bandai-Namco (though none of these characters, in particular, appear, they are the mascots for their associated company).
@Sabcy23 жыл бұрын
WHY ISN'T THERE A MULTIPLAYER BOSS RUSH MODE IN SMASH?!?!
@supremechaosbeing26963 жыл бұрын
yeah why the HELL can’t we rematch bosses from world of light? There is already a system for rematching spirit battles (Spirits > Collection > choose a spirit to fight) and you get spirits of the bosses when you defeat them so why can’t we just fight the bosses again
@YounesLayachi3 жыл бұрын
Because there's no event mode Also the dev team has a weird mentality (why is there no random character selection button in quickplay ?)
@elijahpadilla50833 жыл бұрын
There is . . . sorta. Player 1 just has to be Sephiroth.
@YounesLayachi3 жыл бұрын
@@elijahpadilla5083 Sephiroth is not a boss fight in smash
@elijahpadilla50833 жыл бұрын
@@YounesLayachi Sephiroth's Classic Mode route is against all boss fights. Hands, Rathalos, Ganon, Dracula, Marx.
@firewolf950tfwgaming73 жыл бұрын
The presence of all the other fire emblem fighters in Byleth’s classic mode can be a reference to the recruit mechanic where enemies you fight become your ally.
@micheledelloglio58203 жыл бұрын
Exatly, confirming Byleth as the true representative of FE in Smash. He has the two "main" mechanics, weapon triangle and recruitment
@Chickensandwich193 жыл бұрын
I am not a big fan of MegaMan but I think his classic mode route is the best for references
@comfyghost3 жыл бұрын
sonic, megaman and pacman were the 3 base third party characters in smash 4, they're team 3rd-party
@tartarr20183 жыл бұрын
now with kazuya coming to smash i wouldn't be surprised is they replaced the last fight in terrys classic mode with ryu ken and kazuya
@roninthefallenva3 жыл бұрын
For Terry's final fight it can also be a reference for team Fatal Fury in KOF which consists of Joe Higashi, Andy Bogard, and Terry Bogard. They are represented by Ryu, Ken, and Terry respectively
@dawnjeff493 жыл бұрын
Honestly seeing smash KZbinrs get sponsored by Disney makes me smile for some reason.
@electroshockgamer27333 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Terry and Hero's Classic Mode routes are my favorites in the game. They're so fun.
@yoshiandtailsfan87973 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for Kazuya and what his Classic Mode route will be like! Edit: Okay, I did NOT expect this to get so many likes.
@MosesX-Labs3 жыл бұрын
I hope for the Boss Fight they either have Ganon as Ogre or have a battle with a Smash Fighter to represent a Boss Fight in Tekken like maybe Kazuya Vs. Kazuya like Tekken 2.
@GeneralSpritz3 жыл бұрын
I bet the whole theme will be about the Mishima bloodline, and one of the fights will be Joker referencing Jin.
@joshualedesmasegovia3 жыл бұрын
@@MosesX-Labs I would love to see a Boss Fight with Ganondorf as Ancient Ogre in Super Smash Bros Ultimate
@MosesX-Labs3 жыл бұрын
@@GeneralSpritz No I don’t thinks so because they don’t have other DLC Fighters in Spirits and Classic mode because it won’t work for people who bought them individually.
@GeneralSpritz3 жыл бұрын
@@MosesX-Labs …huh. Dark pit then?
@retelefe3 жыл бұрын
06:39 I don't think that's the refference for DQ3. I think it's more likely to be one of this 2 options: The fight with the boss Orochi which is located in a cave full of magma, or the volcano where his father died and later you throw the sword to open the way. That makes much more sense
@retelefe3 жыл бұрын
by the way that's not a spoiler. He literally dies on the opening scene before you start the game lol
@papaG64233 жыл бұрын
spoiler Idk if it's an illusion, but you meet Ortega being killed in Zoma's palace by an Orochi re-skin. Also, a lot of the people in Alefgard comment about recent experiences with Ortega, as if he survived at the volcano where you throw the mountain cleaver later in the game, only to die in front of Erdrick's eyes.
@retelefe3 жыл бұрын
@@papaG6423 yeah, that's the spoiler I didn't want to mention . . . that you see that he didn't die actually but you don't know it until almost the end of the game
@papaG64233 жыл бұрын
@@retelefe spoiler that scene very forced imo. It doesn't really add anything other than hearing Ortega's apology for failing his son. He doesn't even get to actually meet his son in Zoma's palace. If it was an illusion to get Erdrick rattled, then it would have made more sense. The twist lasts for like a minute until Ortega is dead again
@extremmefan73053 жыл бұрын
A neat little thing in Byleth's Classic route is that Roy's fight takes place on Arena Ferox, which is from Fire Emblem Awakening, which is were Roy gets part of his Sm4sh redesign from: his Einherjard (DLC card fighter thing) design from Awakening.
@jasonmarciniak3993 жыл бұрын
A detail that I think you missed with Joker's classic mode is the fact that the alternate visual themes for Mementos also line up with the battles. The Samus/Dark Samus fight uses the Persona 3 version of the stage, which is the game that both Aegis and Metis come from. And the Dark Link fight uses the Persona 4 theme, which is probably a reference to the fact that in that game, you fight the shadows of the protagonists (much like how the Dark Link battles operate in the Zelda series).
@marcusong45513 жыл бұрын
I bet that if Kazuya was already in the roster, they would replace the Terry opponent with him in Terry's final boss stage.
@drodrig13 жыл бұрын
It would probably replace ken to have the protagonists of 3 fighting games
@micheledelloglio58203 жыл бұрын
The Terry thing is a recurring joke in Fatal Fury. There you have a special fight with another Terry and has a special dialogue for it
@pikaverse24973 жыл бұрын
Aaronitmar should make a new concepts series on Custom Classic Modes
@TheMack6253 жыл бұрын
Piranha Plant's Classic Mode is my favorite of the bunch. I dig fighting every one of the base newcomers and Rathalos is my #1 boss in Ultimate. Banjo-Kazooie and Terry come close. Hero is good for the references, although Mega Charizard's appearance as part of the final boss throws me off on occasion. Likewise, I dislike the penultimate round of Byleth's route because of how often the AI spams the special moves.
@pikaverse24973 жыл бұрын
I like how Aaronitmar finish the video off with the main music of “Fire Emblem Three houses”
@kiura35523 жыл бұрын
10:51 It might just be a coincidence and I just see reference where there is absolutely not, but the 3 characters in the background may reference Ryu and Ken too. Ryo, as you said, is a direct hommage to Ryu, the girl on the left (sorry for the names I havn’t played KOF enough) wears closes kind of similar to Ryu’s one, and the girls on the right is a blond « mid-hair » character wearing red, just like Ken. Again, I can totally gone to far, but Sakurai and the Smash team seem to really really love Fatal Fury/KOF series and go and put a lot of attention and details in all the stuff that came alongside Terry inclusion
@kazzfuchsia10733 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail. Joker no stop. Poor Erdrick
@UFOPiXEL79833 жыл бұрын
10:20 Team Retro? I always called them was Team Icons because there Video Game Icon from different companies.
@willow30623 жыл бұрын
No one gonna talk about how PERFECTLY 10:50 syncs with the music in the background? Godlike editing
@GregTheLion3 жыл бұрын
11:20 this bit could've been replaced with a quick cut to Kazuya's trailer followed by a silent "...oh"
@sherbertshortkake66493 жыл бұрын
Sonic, Mega Man, and Pac-Man were considered the 'guest' fighters of Sm4sh.
@slippahmastah3 жыл бұрын
Hero’s Classic mode is literally him fighting in a mirror match 4 times.
@Toadie10583 жыл бұрын
10:21 or you could call it team 3d party
@Ashernokami3 жыл бұрын
for Joers Route: Samus and Dark Samus reference, Aigis and medis are characters from Persona 3. Persona 3 had a mostly blue Color sheme, which is also present in Kirby costume and in the stage itself. Also the theme in the fight "mass Destruction" is from P3 too so it would make a lot of sense lol For the Byleth Fight: the black and white Corrin could also be a reference to Corrins Secondary Class: Hoshidan Noble and Nohr Noble. In any official Artworkt for those two classes, the Male Corrin is the one wearing the Hoshidan Noble Outfit, while female orrin is the one with the Norian Armor class
@christianlopez7073 жыл бұрын
I think the battle with Erdrick is refrencing the Ortega battle at the beginning of DQ3. Sense that battle has Erdricks father fight a winged demon on top of a volcano.
@Ohjeezits4203 жыл бұрын
This, or it could be a reference to Erdrick travelling to Alefgard in DQ3. The Castle Siege stage sort of travels underground which could allude to the way you get to Alefgard in the game, but it's pretty vague
@AjayESharma3 жыл бұрын
Also, Sonic, Pac-Man and Mega Man all had games on Neo Geo Pocket Color, possibly a reason as to why they are in a team in Terry's route
@Mohammedssbu3 жыл бұрын
Mans out here gettin sponsored by literally Disney
@darkstryller3 жыл бұрын
correction: terrys fight with sonic, megaman and pacman, references two things. 1. sonic, megaman and pacaman were the 3rd parties characters that appeared on the base roster of smash 4 2. sonic, megaman and pacman are by far the characters that represent the videogame industry apart of mario. meaning that is fighting videogame icons
@SorenDaein Жыл бұрын
Side note regarding the "Dark" Incineroar fight: the background music is Rivers in the Desert, making the reference to Shadow Shido even stronger.
@noirlucario49623 жыл бұрын
I know you've already been cleared up on the shadows thing for Joker's route, but I've also noticed that the fight with Incineroar probably also references the Beast of Human Sacrifice, the golden lion Shido rides in the first part of the fight. Great video!
@Catty-Crashy3 жыл бұрын
0:50 You're a Huge Toy Story Fan? Neat! **Croak**
@UnexSpecter3 жыл бұрын
I think Sonic, Megaman, Pac-Man are all retro games that made it to smash but aren’t Nintendo
@mattwo73 жыл бұрын
10:05 Who would win in a fight, Athena from Athena or Valkyrie from Adventure of Valkyrie?
@leeeroyjenkins5553 жыл бұрын
Terry's was the best route from Fighter Pass1. Also, Pacman-Megaman-Sonic team could be a reference to the Project X Zone games on 3ds. Those games were a collab between bamco, capcom, and sega. (With Nintendo cheapin in too)
@fernandobanda57343 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention that Terry fights teams of 3 characters because KoF are 3 on 3 battles
@James-lx9nz3 жыл бұрын
6:39 Maybe this fight is supposed to represent The Crucible in Mount Huji and the flashbacks to Erdrick forging the Sword of Light there?
@Thebestlocosoco3 жыл бұрын
yeah that is a great theory
@Underworlder53 жыл бұрын
just a minor correction. the flashbacks are not about erdrick, but about erdwin, the first luminary, whose design is heavily inspired by erdrick
@James-lx9nz3 жыл бұрын
@@Underworlder5 ah sorry. I don't know much about the Dragon Quest lore and I've only played DQ11 once. The stage selection just reminded me of that area a lot and I vaguely remembered the flashbacks.
@UnknownFlre3 жыл бұрын
There is actually a small reference with the ryu ken and terry fight at the end The blue terry is representing player two terry or for most KoF games the default alt costume selected when there are two of the same characters there can only be one
@auser76043 жыл бұрын
I read many comments saying that the shadows joining you to the battle in Joker's classic mode is in reference of how Joker recruits shadows to personas in his game, which is incorrect: changing from dark colors to light colors contradicts this statement because shadows don't change their appearance when they join you as personas, and the fact that the giant black Kirby who represents Black Frost turns into a small blue Kirby, representing Jack Frost, confirms that Joker is stealing the evilness of the shadows rather than recruiting then.
@smartboy2013 жыл бұрын
I look forward to the next series: "EVERY Reference in Smash History's Reveal Trailers"... Unless that's already been covered by you, my GOD you've done a lot of these videos...
@rodomify76813 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why Donkey Kong and Diddey Kong fight, was less because they were both made by rare, and more because banjo was originally just one of the characters you could be in Diddey Kong Racing, and then eventually got his own game in Banjo-Kazooie.
@narwhal61123 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Banjo fight against DK and Diddy could've been a reference to Banjo's reveal trailer
@MetaAyaFangirl3 жыл бұрын
1:17 for the true start of the video!
@chuyrenteria62523 жыл бұрын
12:21 man you didn’t need to disrespect Ike like that
@megame55733 жыл бұрын
I know he was getting footage for this anyway, but if I happened to record me doing that I'd find any excuse possible to include it in a video
@Underworlder53 жыл бұрын
@@megame5573 the funny thing is that this is actually the preferred way to fight him. byleth has a very easy time gimping ikes recovery (appropriately enough with attacks like F air, F smash or side B, while lances beat swords in FE games)
@jamesward53633 жыл бұрын
I was the most excited for when hero got to smashed because of how big of a dragon quest fan I am not to mention just getting all the references just makes me love how much time and effort they actually put into it
@matlock993 жыл бұрын
The Samus/Dark Samus in Joker's route is also on the P3 version of Mementos, as well as the 3 link battle being on P4. So the Aigis/Metis makes more sense and the Shadow Link is basically a proper P4 boss fight, saving Link by defeating his shadow(you could also argue Link stands in for Yu Narukami as his hair with the shadow and in great deity are white/grey and the shadow Yu from the anime takes the form of MULTIPLE TVs with Yu's face appearing on them)
@MosesX-Labs3 жыл бұрын
Like with Palutena’s route, Master Hand and Crazy Hand are basically the gods of Smash so Joker fighting them makes sense.
@martymcfly13123 жыл бұрын
They’re also both voiced by Xander Mobus
@MosesX-Labs3 жыл бұрын
@@martymcfly1312 yeah that too
@themagicalspider44073 жыл бұрын
Since the song for terry's classic mode final battle is a reference to the encounter with ryo in fatal fury 2, it can also be a reference to how that encounter was the first crossover ever in fighting games
@wrrrryyyy123 жыл бұрын
honestly great to see people recognize persona 3 and not just p5
@fatesawakener82413 жыл бұрын
I actually think Master and Crazy Hand in Jokers route are a better representation of the final boss of Royal than Yaldabaoth since that boss actually used their fists yo attack primarily. We know from Joker having the Grappling Hook before Royal was confirmed to have it, Sakurai was given info on Royal before the public like Gamefreak does with Pokemon in Smash.
@joshuaspriggs91953 жыл бұрын
10:20 I believe that's a reference to the "guess stars" in sm4sh
@furby92843 жыл бұрын
Yeah. They made a point of that in PAC-MAN’s reveal trailer. They’re also right next to each other on the CSS.
@joshuaspriggs91953 жыл бұрын
@@furby9284 what's CSS?
@justinnzamora53663 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaspriggs9195 CSS = Character Selection Screen
@jk3rrr3 жыл бұрын
8:54 the donkey Kong on the left is now Cranky Kong and the one on the right is Donkey Kong III, son of Donkey Kong Jr.
@HealingVoice393 жыл бұрын
In Joker’s route, he teams up with opponents from the last route which is a reference to him recruiting Personas. Also Light Meta Knight is a reference to Izanagi