@@shroom736 2014 and 2015 esc dont have televote just jury voting
@shroom7365 ай бұрын
@@kingk428 yeah they do
@קירימרקוס5 ай бұрын
It’s insane that Eurovision give 50% of the scoring decision to 5 people from each country, while thousands of fans and viewers (pay to) vote for their favourites and it worth equally 50%
@dalmatiandream44525 ай бұрын
Could you image this situation in spor? You are not even 1 - 3 place.. and just because of jury you are winner 🤔🤔🤔
@ら乙凡从乃口几丿凡长5 ай бұрын
But it is important to give more power to the people that know at least anything about music. Juries are usually people chosen by their knowledge. If we were to give voting power entirely to the common people we would always choose joke entries because commoners have in general worse taste. It'd basically ruin the show.
@logi-a5 ай бұрын
Boohoo, if you were into Eurovision in the 00s you wouldn’t be saying this. Or you just forgot how horrible the competition was back then. This is the best system we’ve had so why fix what isn’t broken
@Marina_-_-5 ай бұрын
@@logi-athen bring back juries only and everyone will be sending their opera singers and we are fine. People feel cheated for spending money, not being able to pick the winner for the 2nd year in a row. Juries cannot hold such weight to out vote millions of people who vote and WILL BE THE ONES GOING TO CONCERTS OR LISTENING, DOWNLOADING MUSIC. Not watching at all anymore.
@logi-a5 ай бұрын
@@Marina_-_- it’s not like the public didn’t decide the winner. Both loreen and nemo got over 200 points
@l30S3UX5 ай бұрын
Spirit in the Sky is such a classic.
@osasunaitor5 ай бұрын
One of my favourite Eurovision entries of all time!!
@notsosuperhero2675 ай бұрын
@@osasunaitor Discovered it this year, cannot stop listening
@osasunaitor5 ай бұрын
@@notsosuperhero267 It's never too late!
@szbszig4 ай бұрын
I like it also very much. It did come as a surprise though that it was the most voted song that year.
@HaktanAli-244 ай бұрын
Me too @@notsosuperhero267
@mikko.a77735 ай бұрын
Eurovision should have the same voting system as UMK in Finland. 25% jury and 75% public.
@allmight27955 ай бұрын
Ehhh no
@Bandido8945 ай бұрын
No! That's why they still pick Win95man from jury last place! 🤣 Should be min 30/70 make more sense.
@mikko.a77735 ай бұрын
@@Bandido894 It’s not fair at all that 130 people and millions of people are equally valued in voting.
@oof33975 ай бұрын
40/60 Jury/Televote is more fair
@Sitruunahappokierto5 ай бұрын
@@oof3397 I agree, people don't realise how big a difference even 40-60 makes. 25/75 is too big of a difference
@andreferreira23895 ай бұрын
Cha Cha Cha and Rim Tim Tagi Dim the moral winners! And like for the good video as always
@famemosterrrrr5 ай бұрын
No they aren’t winners tho 😂 cry about it but came second and that’s amazing.
@edgarodrigo694 ай бұрын
@@famemosterrrrr They are lol, ur just too dumb
@andreferreira23893 ай бұрын
@@famemosterrrrr I know they arent, I was saying that they should be the winners (imo ofc) :)
@mrgrimm535 ай бұрын
If the jury wants someone to win, they'll make sure they win. It's as simple as that.
@NonceKillaz5 ай бұрын
Simple as.
@TheBadVideoMaker5 ай бұрын
Because the Jury is one big blob of people all involved in a giant conspiracy. Sound so plausible...
@dalmatiandream44525 ай бұрын
Sadly but it is like it.. welcome in "DEMOCRACY"....by the way those people in jury are NOT experts.. for example Croatian jury did NOT select Baby Lasagna firstly to participate on DORA.. . he was on waiting list for DORA .. 😂😂😂 so those "experts" have more power than 10000 people .. cammon...
@GoranAbraxas5 ай бұрын
@@dalmatiandream4452 Dora jury were various HRT producers (Mesar, Geržina, Miočić, Urlić, Krizmanić, Gross - corrupt and/or incompetent bunch, clientelism at best). Croatia's Eurosong jury were mainly singers (Skansi, Vanna, Dino Jelusić, Lockroom, GV Damjanović). Not the same people.
@Harel_Israel4 ай бұрын
In other world: Sweden with 5 wins (1974, 1984, 1991, 1999, 2012) Italy with 4 wins (1964, 1990, 2015, 2021) Norway with 4 wins (1985, 1995, 2009, 2019) The Netherlands with 4 wins (1957, 1959, 1969, 1975) Finland with 2 wins (2006, 2023) Ukraine with 2 wins (2004, 2022) Russia with 2 wins (2008, 2016) And finally - Croatia won for the first time ever in 2024
@dariom34125 ай бұрын
It's disturbing how many on here that didn't actually end up winning
@Nope-sj7es5 ай бұрын
womp womp
@KyrieFortune5 ай бұрын
They're the minority tho, most televote winners won the competition, many in spite of the juries, and a couple of them saw the jury winner also lose because both the jury and the televote could not agree on who won but agreed on who got 2nd place
@Bungle-UK5 ай бұрын
Only 5 of them - hardly a great amount
@youlookingatme5752 ай бұрын
@@Nope-sj7esare you your latest video
@abbiecampfield89555 ай бұрын
Liked Switzerland this year but Croatia has been my winner since the semi finals ❤
@stayinalive925 ай бұрын
@@famemosterrrrr Are you just going to obnoxiously reply to every pro-Croatia comment on here or
@Leon54david5 ай бұрын
One and only Baby Lasagna ❤
@Adodoa23-us1ml5 ай бұрын
Meh
@sylwuskak70655 ай бұрын
Our true winner ❤🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷
@Aria-o5u5 ай бұрын
@@Adodoa23-us1mlyou may don't like him, but the majority of voters did, so...
@MKWahPhil5 ай бұрын
I can't believe the televote gave Austria Songwriter(s): Charlie Mason • Joey Patulka • Ali Zuckowski • Julian Maas points, 2014 must have been an interesting year
@colle32915 ай бұрын
No one asked + I own you in MKWII + I'm better than you and Troy combinded.
@crabrave89795 ай бұрын
@@colle3291😂 what
@MKWahPhil5 ай бұрын
@@crabrave8979 Don't mind them, MKW players aren't known for being very smart (and I say this as a MKW player)
@crabrave89795 ай бұрын
@@MKWahPhil what’s mkw? Sorry
@MKWahPhil5 ай бұрын
@@crabrave8979 Mario Kart Wii
@Creeperqueen915 ай бұрын
Switzerland was my favourite but I feel bad for Croatia not winning. Baby Lasagne was my #2 so I voted both him and Nemo
@famemosterrrrr5 ай бұрын
Why you feel bad? He came second place and that gave him a reason to follow the singing career. Why you are never satisfied?
@Jack-ni4ft5 ай бұрын
Spirit in the sky 🇳🇴 Cha cha cha 🇫🇮 Rim tim tagi dim 🇭🇷 Where absolutely robbed of wins.
@adrijanovidak41595 ай бұрын
Our Marko is True Winner🇭🇷🇭🇷💋💋💋😘😘😘🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷
@logi-a5 ай бұрын
I don’t see him with the trophy do you?
@sucha00005 ай бұрын
@@logi-awell we all saw what happened to that trophy
@VlaDo-g8y5 ай бұрын
Hrvati smirite dozivljaje, bilo je jasno od početka da necete pobjediti, sta se lozite 😂
@sylwuskak70655 ай бұрын
Definately the winner ❤ I was voting for him! ❤
@stayinalive925 ай бұрын
@@VlaDo-g8y Da je to bilo jasno ne bi uvjerljivo vodio na kladionicama mjesecima i pomeo televote
@Kristina-wj5kv5 ай бұрын
Grande Amore gives me goosebumps every time
@kristinab91035 ай бұрын
So literraly jury this year needed to vote for anything but Croatia to shut up the crowd.
@ら乙凡从乃口几丿凡长5 ай бұрын
Wdym? Croatia was literally at the third place in juries vote...
@kristinab91035 ай бұрын
@@ら乙凡从乃口几丿凡长 Never in a history of eurovision winner was someone who was 5th with public. Juries did everything to kill Croatia. And reason is quite obvious.
@ANGELIC_DIVA_5 ай бұрын
@@kristinab9103 be fr, y’all are delulu. Switzerland had a jury friendly song and y’all didn’t (and they still gave u 3rd)
@logi-a5 ай бұрын
@@kristinab9103Nemo was 1 points away from 4th in the public. Also what a historical moment, beating the clown BL while being in 5th
@aburrki67325 ай бұрын
Ah yes they did everything to kill croatia by giving them 12 points twice and 210 points in total, 60 more points than finland last year, 18 more points than Ukraine in 2022, 4 more points than Italy in 2021, only 27 points less than The Netherlands in 2019, need I go on? Croatia came 3rd and not even a very distant 3rd at that, obviously they were quite off of Switzerland's score, but they only got 8 fewer points than the 2nd in the jury, which was a song that was total jury catnip. If yall take your heads out of the sand and actually look at the results you'll see that the juries absolutely loved Croatia.... Meanwhile in the public while Nemo technically did finish 5th, it was basically as good as 4th anyways since they got only 1 point less than the 4th...
@meli-loves-music5 ай бұрын
2019: YASS, televote had a really great taste here! I like Arcade, but KEiiNO is such a cool band.
@johnobrien9215 күн бұрын
The trouble is that Duncan and Arcade were very highly tipped to win 🏆, plus I won 🙌 a lot of money 💵 when Arcade took first place 🥇.
@hannahbarley975 ай бұрын
2019 still hurts 😢
@ANGELIC_DIVA_5 ай бұрын
I am forever thankful that did not win
@JulianSirian5 ай бұрын
Since the new system came out in 2016... 4 that won the televote also win the contest... 4 that won the televote didn't win the contest... So, it's currently 4:4 with regards to winning the contest...
@sweriges79105 ай бұрын
First place was Croatia's right.
@moooooooor_5 ай бұрын
The song was kinda mid ngl
@darkoperisic29585 ай бұрын
@@moooooooor_majority of EU disagreed with you already
@kiksgreebo1475 ай бұрын
Croatia was trash
@lemonstealinghorse5 ай бұрын
@@moooooooor_I can smell your sexual orientation through the screen
@alexwyffels97885 ай бұрын
This year was kinda stacked imo. I voted Switzerland and France but Croatia, Italy and many others were also amazing. I also think Netherlands wouldve been very high up there if not the winner without the disqualification.
@renatasostar88915 ай бұрын
Real winners are those who win the televoting. People are going to the concert not jury. We are all very proud od Baby Lasagna 🐈🇭🇷🐈
@logi-a5 ай бұрын
The real winners are the ones that play by the rules and win due to those rules. Thus nemo is the true winner seeing as they have the trophy
@antelasic19505 ай бұрын
@@logi-a Are you saying the others didn't follow the rules?
@logi-a5 ай бұрын
@@antelasic1950 they all played by the rules but Nemo played by the rules (50/50) and appealed to both
@antelasic19505 ай бұрын
@logi-a France did too and even they got 150 points less by the jury.
@renatasostar88915 ай бұрын
@@antelasic1950 Yes, love his song and definitely really the best vocal this year
@mocabunn5 ай бұрын
Weird way of spelling: "Real winners" but I'll take it
@vladimirvukovich59665 ай бұрын
Такие и должны быть настоящие победители
@maikotter99455 ай бұрын
Which Cyrillic written language is that? To my ears, the 19 Slavic languages sound very equal to each other! I only can tell, the Polish language more distinctly apart! Only with some phrases, such as "Dzien Dobre" (Polish), I am sure, which Slavic language is spoken/written!
@kabochakabocha35615 ай бұрын
@@maikotter9945 It's Russian, one of slavic languages too
@stacksopaperАй бұрын
is azerbaijan a real winner? or ukraine?
@bzzzzzzzzzz324565 ай бұрын
Maneskin changed everything. In 2021 Jury found out that they need to make large gap beetween their favourite and televote favourite. Maneskin won with 317 and Lasagna lost with 337.Maneskin got 206 Jury,Lasagna 210. Maneskin won in strongest year of Eurovision ever with 2 best vocalist of Eurovision history. Croatia didnt stand a chance against Jury this year.... Croatia would sure won i am 100% sure if Israel didnt had situation like this and many votes that gone to them and Ukraine for war reasons would make televote winner biggest just like Kaarija last year.
@logi-a5 ай бұрын
This year was stronger than 2021 when we look at how competitive the songs are. Also you’re missing a key detail, the semi finals. With the new semifinal system, where the televote decides, it means that all the televote friendly songs get through while the more jury friendly songs get left behind. This causes what we saw last year and this year. Another thing is that rim tim tagi dim could never have beat cha cha cha’s televote last year. Cha cha cha was so much more popular with everyone getting him 374 points. Rim Tim Tagi Dim doesn’t have nearly as much hype and love, then adding on to that cha cha cha was just a much stronger and more competitive song then Croatia had this year. Thus there’s just no chance that Croatia could’ve gotten over 350 points
@sunakonahahara1055 ай бұрын
every year there can be different number of participating countries. This year Luxembourg returned but in finals they banned one of the ppl fav - Joost from Netherland. So there were more points but one less country to vote.
@thortorin99545 ай бұрын
Lasgna would most likely have lost a big part of their votes if Netherlands wasn't disqualified, I think a lot of the votes on Switzerland and Croatia came from people that would have voted on Netherlands
@Juventinos5 ай бұрын
holland getting banned played a role for sure
@Sebbir5 ай бұрын
@@logi-a i love that i know exactly what songs you are refering to without knowing the names of the songs
@alexandrosk67475 ай бұрын
Grande Amore won televote.. But "quality Juries" put him 6th Was insane
@sylwuskak70655 ай бұрын
Exactly. That was the highest televoting scoring in the ESC history then. And despite that they finished in the 3rd place! After all these years it still hurts 😢
@famemosterrrrr5 ай бұрын
I guess they didn’t want Italy to win because they aren’t the best creating a show and if you see the shows that happened in Italy. They were bad technically wise.
@LayllasLocker5 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t have problems with jury votes if they were actual professionals. You can’t tell me that this year so many 12s went to 🇨🇭when there were so many other good songs. Or last year’s 🇸🇪. They have other motives besides the music which disqualifies jury votes imho. Public can be subjective and political, but juries CAN’T!
@katara16105 ай бұрын
Judging by the people my country selects as jury, they usually include one or two random ones that have zero connection with the music industry.. 🙄
@22adel515 ай бұрын
In my opinion, the Jury should be bigger. Currently, it's 5 people per country, which is not enough to have a diverse opinion. 10 people (I prefer 20 but it can be more challenging to find each year for some countries) are better, especially if they come from different backgrounds, we would probably have a more representative result for the jury points in this case
@romaindelorme53714 ай бұрын
Still remember when Keiino received their televote scores, satisfaying jump from 18th place to the 6th. Loved this entry and still do.
@arinaperevozchikova82535 ай бұрын
The most truthful top!
@millenial82125 ай бұрын
Not really, the average person just votes on politics and favorite artists, while the jury actually looks at the music
@Hjalmar_an_Craite5 ай бұрын
@@millenial8212 It's the other way around, actually.
@Twoblocksdown-15 ай бұрын
Real winners here
@ΗΜαρτίνατοφίδικαιτοπαντελόνιτη5 ай бұрын
No every year
@logi-a5 ай бұрын
Nahhhh
@HardCR0W5 ай бұрын
Except of 2022 Ukraine, those were a complete support votes. UK was the real winner in 2022.
@vulture.95 ай бұрын
Except 2010
@famemosterrrrr5 ай бұрын
Me when I lie
@fireice_5 ай бұрын
spirit in the sky robbed
@Zycoreination5 ай бұрын
it's not about who won, it's about yet again the jury decides the fate of the competition instead of the actual people... In 2010 they introduced these jury votes to prevent "neighbor" voting... As between 1997-2009 it was ONLY people votes and no jury. The weight of the jury votes is massively skewed, it needs to be reduced to 30% or similar if not abolished completely. The fact that the 5th placement managed to win due to jury votes is ridiculous.
@logi-a5 ай бұрын
5th only 1 point away from 4th Also juries came back in 2009. The time of 1997-2008 was a colossal shit show and we should never have to witness that again. The new system makes it to where both jury friendly songs and tele friendly songs can do well. Reduce the power of one and we’re back to the dark ages.
@amanda79135 ай бұрын
But it was also almost 100 televotes away from both 1st, 2nd and 3rd...
@loisen4 ай бұрын
@@logi-aIt wasn’t. The best songs won. People just disliked it because they weren’t winning.
@dalmatiandream44525 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video ❤ Meow 🐈
@upriseshorts774 ай бұрын
Damn, asking that cat to meow back worked
@lucijan96Plays5 ай бұрын
2021-2024 real winner
@GamerX666665 ай бұрын
So true
@ANGELIC_DIVA_5 ай бұрын
I don’t agree
@logi-a5 ай бұрын
I don’t see käärijä and BL holding the trophy
@denxx565 ай бұрын
@@logi-abad eyesight I guess
@logi-a5 ай бұрын
@@denxx56 oh really, can you give me sources showing them holding the trophy on stage while confetti rains?
@icecranberry21485 ай бұрын
People who are still complaining about Azerbaijan winning in 2011...they literally won the televote.
@beznazwy19305 ай бұрын
And it's kinda suspicious. Australia's television had their own sms voting so people can vote for their favorites. This of course had not impact on real results, it was just for fun. And in 2011 Azerbaijan got... last place
@CoxaBranca5 ай бұрын
When I watched ESC 2011, I was not surprised by Azerbaijan winning, it had a certain "je ne sais quoi", a winner vibe. I suppose it was the staging and choreo, and the song felt like a Eurovision winner. People are bitter because they liked the generic pop of Sweden's Popular.
@leylayetmez5 ай бұрын
Sms operators of Azerbaijan and Swedeb Telia Nora controversial
@ANGELIC_DIVA_5 ай бұрын
Riggery
@logi-a5 ай бұрын
Extremely shady how they won though. But yeah I bring that up when people say that the televote is always the true winner
@McFly855 ай бұрын
Loving these uploads!! One minor thing, idk if it's intentional, but the years should be written '09, '10, etc. not 09', 10', etc.
@ESCGiorgio5 ай бұрын
Yeah someone else pointed that out I will i had the ' after the numbers cause it looked better but yeah I ll fix it in the next vids. Thank you for watching ❤️
@EmmatildaS5 ай бұрын
Keiino still hurts
@ju_ulss5 ай бұрын
Italy 2015, Finland 2023 and now Croatia 2024 💔💔💔
@costasichaelrokkoudes9385 ай бұрын
Who should make the rules at the end of the day The public that is the viewers, or the committees who are politically motivated? I believe it’s the viewers who should decide not the committees. At the end of the day a committee is comprised by less than a handful of people who, according to Eurovision rules « are at par » with millions of people!!! 😅😅😅 Now if that is not oligarchy and autocracy what is?
@BarbarBs5 ай бұрын
0:19 ❤❤
@ivanmarosevic7425 ай бұрын
To unite people through music the paying people should get to decide and not the jury. Furthermore, juries hate rock metal rap singers and go for sopranos and opera type. They should tell the artists beforehand how many points will be deducted for their genre. There are also inconsistencies from year to year between sopranos and rockers winning throughout the years, If any sporting teams wins the game on points the paying crowd knows a jury or referee shouldn't decide the win.
@Marais-cu3vo5 ай бұрын
Basically the jury decides the winner…
@famemosterrrrr5 ай бұрын
Good? That’s their job anyway? The juries consist of people who might be singers, producers, dancers etc. you think people with some knowledge in music wouldn’t vote accordingly? People vote for the song that is the most fun. I get it but is it really a good song that deserves to win?
@loisen4 ай бұрын
@@famemosterrrrrWe have seen it this year. They wanted a non-binary winner.
@famemosterrrrr4 ай бұрын
@@loisen why they choice of a noun matters to you? Nemo is still a human with so much talent. It is very sad to bring them down because you are bitter. Nemo sang 3 different styles of singing while he was jumping up and down. Put some respect on them. It isn’t the first time an lgbtq person have won. In 1998 a trans woman won, in 2007 a lesbian woman won, in 2019 a bisexual men won. Again the juries see TALENT The world just saw Nemo’s nouns and sexuality. Yikes….the viewers are equally bad and disrespectful
@SuzanaDurmis5 ай бұрын
There are five members from each 37 countries in the Jury.That is 185 people.On the other side thousands and milions of fans vote for their favourites.The jury can't give us the real winner.
@dalmatiandream44525 ай бұрын
Good point 💪💪❤️😻 by the way those people in jury are NOT experts.. for example Croatian jury did NOT select Baby Lasagna firstly to participate on DORA.. . he was on waiting list for DORA .. 😂😂😂 so those "experts" have more power than 10000 people .. cammon...
@internationalplayer1075 ай бұрын
For those who said that Juries are full of knowledge... Nope, they still base their votes on personal taste. No juries will vote Bob Dylan number 1, even his music are so good. A 3-7 or 2-8 system will be much better. Let the fan decide, the juries votes bring more fair to the system, but it should not be the decision factor like public votes. Fan love Charlie Puth music, although critics panned his early work. The fan also have ears, they can be the better decider, not juries
@famemosterrrrr5 ай бұрын
That’s me when I try to manipulate myself
@0zziefan5 ай бұрын
In my opinion the fairest way is to have the judges votes count for less. (Like the highest amount of points is 8) then maybe the rightful song will win.
@saprone88855 ай бұрын
Completely agree
@thelexicon72945 ай бұрын
The 2020-onwards televoters are so much fun
@famemosterrrrr5 ай бұрын
Yeah because somehow the people stopped caring for art and vocals and good music in general. Sometimes I wish the televote was removed like back in the 2000s/90s
@martinschuster19295 ай бұрын
@ESCGiorgo can you do the same but with Juryvoting 1st places?
@ESCGiorgio5 ай бұрын
Yesss I m literally uploading it rn ahahaha
@MissDatherinePierce5 ай бұрын
By that pattern established in 2015, televoting should align again with the overall winner in 2025😂
@TheManInBlueFlames5 ай бұрын
If Israel hadn't been participating this year, i'm CERTAIN Croatia would have gotten 400 points and easily won, or at least broken the record or something!
@ANGELIC_DIVA_5 ай бұрын
We will never know because ebu are a bunch of clowns and ruined everything😔
@logi-a5 ай бұрын
There’s no shot. Käärijä was far more popular last year with a much stronger song getting 374 points. The amount of popularity and hype cha cha cha is unmatched to anything I’ve ever seen in my 18 years of being a fanatic of the contest. There’s no way BL would’ve gotten above the 2nd highest televote in history. I could see them getting a few more 12s instead of 10s but even then it would probably only be around 350. Especially since the points would’ve been more distributed. Also there’s no shot well ever see someone beat Ukraines televote in 2022. At least not for the next few decades.
@leabartulica10035 ай бұрын
@@logi-aYou write like your opinion is a fact. I wouldn't agree.
@darkoperisic29585 ай бұрын
@@logi-a Kaarija more popular than Lasagna? Thats a long shot my dude given that Lasagna is wilding on streams across the EU, im not saying Lasagna is way better, but it's definitely not as you've put it either, for me personally Lasagna's song is better than Kaarija's, but that's my opinion, doesn't have to be fact I also think Tattoo was better, but again my taste and my opinion But the fact is, given that Eurosong is event for masses and audience, both Kaarija and Lasagna were robbed, and if Kaarija won last year i would understand since people liked it the most
@gardevoirtraunmagil38814 ай бұрын
Or Nemo got even more Points and croatia loose again
@Светдалекихпланет-э2ю5 ай бұрын
I adore finland'23 and croatia'24! but norway'19 broke my heart...
@kjpyska5 ай бұрын
2016 REAL WINNER 🏆
@Julivines5 ай бұрын
Maybe next time😁
@MatthewEade-hj6tf5 ай бұрын
I'm excited to see if you do more of these over time , maybe all of Switzerland's entries for example with the points and place on the side . I used to watch schlager Lucas as he does similar types of videos but if you go to his 2024 top you will see why I no longer watch him ….. it feels wrong to support someone who does that
@ESCGiorgio5 ай бұрын
Yeah I saw … I will for sure make similar vids with each country etc I was gonna post every Swiss entry video recap tomorrow! And maybe some other vids
@MatthewEade-hj6tf5 ай бұрын
@@ESCGiorgio That's awesome , Really cool of you to do that!!
@Anastasiya2095 ай бұрын
Russia 2016 and Croatia 2024 💔
@hairbrushedАй бұрын
Each of these needs to have the actual place they got in the final somewhere on screen
@hemulen12095 ай бұрын
Real winners
@shabbychicken86355 ай бұрын
They should get rid of the jury and instead we could vote for our top 3 instead of just one
@sinancothebest5 ай бұрын
Wow Lena won the televote? I thought manga was the favorite that year
@AlexxAlejandro5 ай бұрын
By watching this video, I'm glad the juries are 50%. Only 2024, I think both Croatia and Switzerland deserved the win.
@compaq67154 ай бұрын
Only in 2024 winner was only fifth, fifth! in the public votes. I would be ashamed to take a trophy with that result by the people who are watching it actually.
@sara-stinabergstedt30195 ай бұрын
Anyone know why the difference started in 2015? Did anything change then in the rules or so, or is it just random?
@valentinablumberg42124 ай бұрын
...yes...- absolutely new rules
@mribeiro94175 ай бұрын
I know this may be an unpopular opinion, but I think the jury vote is also important! Maybe there should be changes to make the televote impact bigger than the jury vote, however if we removed the jury vote completely the winner song could potentially be skewed due to politics or other external factors not related to the quality of the song.
@ChesterRGC5 ай бұрын
I'm surprisingly pleased with Eurovision these last 2 years. I used to hate this contest, it was just pop and boring songs all over, but recently we started to get fresh genres and originality. I'm happy that the public is voting them as well, this means we'll get more songs like Cha-cha-cha in the future
@TheMerrysoul5 ай бұрын
Lena won upon maNga from Turkey still hutrs
@maikotter99455 ай бұрын
Why "5 human per country", feel to be "more valuble", than hundreds of millions of humans?
@oyemarta4 ай бұрын
How many votes is equivalent to 378 points that, for example, Rybak or Kalush Orchestra obtained?
@ESCGiorgio4 ай бұрын
Idk it could be SO MANY. Poland published their televote results from 2009 and the 12p (I think Norway was their 12pm in tele) had 30k votes
@rebeckas10154 ай бұрын
Before 2016 when the new vote -system begin, was The winner of jury and televote always The same 9/10 Times.
@sagittarius54665 ай бұрын
So these are the real winners, interesting
@famemosterrrrr5 ай бұрын
Are they? 😂
@sagittarius54665 ай бұрын
@@famemosterrrrr yea
@lovelypolishperson55665 ай бұрын
Without juries we had diaspora voting (mostly an issue for Turkey and Russia), block voting (ex-Yugoslav countries voting for each other, but also Greece+Cyprus, Scandinavia, Ireland-UK). I think juries should stay but the value of their points shouldn't be 50%, maybe 30%. Also, those jury members should be carefully chosen, unbiased experts.
@gerelmuzraeva5 ай бұрын
We don’t have diaspora voting issue in Russia, we are banned hahaha
@ESCGiorgio5 ай бұрын
True 😂
@lovelypolishperson55665 ай бұрын
@@gerelmuzraeva I am talking about 2000s
@larsswig9125 ай бұрын
Turkey and Russia aren't even in the contest. could've chosen better examples lol
@lovelypolishperson55665 ай бұрын
@@larsswig912 in 2000s they were participating
@krunoslavkovacec18424 ай бұрын
60-40 for next year, please.
@tonks28955 ай бұрын
I miss old type of voting 😢
@twicelandyx4 ай бұрын
How did you get that info, bc i've seen the esc livestreams, and before 2016, they don't say televote results 😭
@ESCGiorgio4 ай бұрын
They are on the Wikipedia. You check the detailed results
@zeleniatdq4 ай бұрын
Beautiful mess will always be my 2017 Winner 💙🙏
@robirobi73005 ай бұрын
Time, if you normal, it's defucult
@dr.franjo96344 ай бұрын
❤❤
@robotwars6664 ай бұрын
Italy was so robbed in 2015 its a crime :( Also Finland last year and croatia this year robbed
@quangminhtran29164 ай бұрын
Norway 2019 is the first televote winner that wasn't in the top 5 overall after the points had been combined, I'm still mad that the jury literally tanked them by only giving them 40 points.
@steverossi73355 ай бұрын
I like the song at the end of your videos. Do you tell me the name, pls?
@ESCGiorgio5 ай бұрын
Fløre Monster. It’s competing in the contest I host 👉👈
@steverossi73355 ай бұрын
@@ESCGiorgio I have seen Fløre's video. Amazing! German singer I tought Britney
@milaandjela51375 ай бұрын
rim tim tagi dim
@SeanPrevil5 ай бұрын
I'm thrilled with Nemo winning this year, but I do think it's somewhat crazy people can get an insane amount of votes but then lose because they get a big amount of jury votes. It's an interesting process...especially given have to pay to vote.
@Bungle-UK5 ай бұрын
Thrilled? He was awful.
@SeanPrevil5 ай бұрын
@@Bungle-UKfalse. Also just cause you don’t have good taste in music doesn’t mean you have to be rude. Also they’re non-binary so don’t say he, their pronouns are they/them. Get it right.
@sucha00005 ай бұрын
@@SeanPrevil I just wonder what is next. Age identity, race identity? If I identify myself as 12yo black boy ( although I'm adult white woman) will you accept my new "identity"?
@Licel15 ай бұрын
What's the point in voting if the juries choose the winner and give them so many points that no other country will be able to reach them even if they have great result in the televote? Now it is even more diffcult because Ukraine, and even Israel, get votes out of sympathy.
@sk700915 ай бұрын
I've been saying since last year that people are going to stop voting when they realize their votes don't matter. You'd think the EBU would be concerned about that bc money.
@ellem89905 ай бұрын
@@sk70091But there are those that seem to love to lick the boot basically saying "who are we poor lowly people to decide anything". You know maybe things would turn out well, if those people followed their own opinion and stopped voting aswell (meaning both groups not voting and EBU losing money). That's not a serious thought, if that wasn't clear. I do seriously despise those who think our and their own tastes are lesser than hte jurys, music is subjective and even if it weren't who cares, let us have one thing. Also sadly some of those hold that opinion on jurys, because they feel like non eurovision fans will respect eurovision more and won't mock them for liking it (which is also pathetic). Anyway, I already didn't vote this year, so I welcome others joining gladly. EBU doesn't care about words much, they care about money so "protest votes" make 0 sense.
@Kiporra15 ай бұрын
Is there a video about winning countries by jury voting like in this ESC 2024?
@ESCGiorgio5 ай бұрын
I posted the jury version yes
@Kiporra15 ай бұрын
@@ESCGiorgio Where?
@dominiquezillmer-stumpe55305 ай бұрын
So 2009-2014 televote was also actually Winner
@dominiquezillmer-stumpe55305 ай бұрын
So as 2017,2018,2021,2022
@James_Anderson_5 ай бұрын
The problem is making the semi-finals televote only, the reason Switzerland got crowded around by the juries is that jury-friendly songs are less likely to qualify. If you don't want one country running away with the juries in the final, give them a say in the semis. If we change the 50/50 system we'll end up with 30 Cha Cha Chas every year which might sound fun but really really wouldn't be. Giving a handful of people 50% of the vote may seem unfair but it's the best option there is
@Sleengreen5 ай бұрын
That is such a good point, about the semi-finals. Never thought about it that way.
@zloreen5 ай бұрын
Croatia ❤🇭🇷
@markojemojcovek5 ай бұрын
It should be maNga in 2010, ΜΑΛΑΚΑ!
@KHJvsAL5 ай бұрын
still can't get how this masterpiece couldn't win. 0:53
@ANGELIC_DIVA_5 ай бұрын
Outdated and cheesy, feels like a joke song when it’s not
@Mansch0074 ай бұрын
There are some songs on this list that I personally don't agree with, but where I have some form of understanding why they won the public vote. But I'll never understand how Azerbaijan in 2011 and Russia in 2016 could be so popular throughout Europe.
@Sunshiniiee4 ай бұрын
Il volo and Sergey Lazarev are my winners. Love from Russia🇷🇺🖤
@smallblueangelКүн бұрын
still pissed about 2015 and 2023
@GL-wl7fj5 ай бұрын
What is the problem? Both voting added up and the winner is Switzerland, simple😂😂😂🇨🇭 🇨🇭🇨🇭
@Yoshikage-Bowie5 ай бұрын
Because the "professional jury" is inconsistent. - People's choice : Croatia - Best voice : France - Best show : Not one to stand out I would have understand if the jury votes were closer but they just gave everything to Switzerland.
@Bungle-UK5 ай бұрын
Because a freak act won
@Kerem-mf9oy4 ай бұрын
Oh ofc, just wear a pin skirt and anyone can win! If Baby Lasagna put a skirt on, he would've won! 😂🙄
@mipr54204 ай бұрын
@@Kerem-mf9oyok, Karen
@Kerem-mf9oy4 ай бұрын
@@mipr5420 ok bigot
@rootdoom31255 ай бұрын
Its real EV winners 🏆
@thel86245 ай бұрын
0:21 That would have only been enough for SIXTH (6th) this year, but then again nothing about 2011 made sense lol
@eurovisioncyan95505 ай бұрын
The most insane thing is there are 43 countries in 2011, and only 37+RotW in 2024
@logi-a5 ай бұрын
2011 is the biggest brain fuck I’ve ever seen 💀 I keep rewatching it and studying it because of how absurd it all was. Basically no good song, like the best song (in my opinion) from that year wouldn’t even make it into my top 10 of any other year. The scoring made absolutely no sense. The televote and jury vote was sketchy beyond anything I’ve ever seen Etc
@garrywallace10075 ай бұрын
@@logi-a Thats why I give Azerbaijan a pass mark on winning- someone had to win, they were acceptable.
@otromambo64314 ай бұрын
Grande amore the real winner of 2015
@georgesmith44765 ай бұрын
2009 2010 2012 2024 the best
@worldsasuri94305 ай бұрын
Nice.😃
@DrakeLavenderZXShorts5 ай бұрын
Nice!
@zaxlee015 ай бұрын
Croatia was robbed!
@smorph10704 ай бұрын
Alternative title: Eurovision winners if the world was normal
@yuliya10075 ай бұрын
Russia 2016, Finland 2023, Croatia 2024 are real winners ❤
@Like_a_Boss7775 ай бұрын
true
@ESCOscar5 ай бұрын
I’m so confused why average rankings and songwriters are showing up instead of the points..?
@ESCGiorgio5 ай бұрын
2014 was a mistake I pinned the points. About Denmark they never shared the points in the jury/tele only the average rank