EVERY WARHAMMER FACTION RANKED BY LORE - LOREMASTER TIER LISTS! | Lorecrimes Podcast

[@fatghostproduction7190]

Colin and Eli's camera shots look like Bro brought lil bro out with the boys

[@akumaking1]

The Thanksgiving special should be about the Ogre Kingdoms and an excuse to sing along with the Total Warhammer trailer.

[@EastGhostINC]

Thanksgiving was a few weeks ago bud

[@kmoney890]

1:24:19 The reforging problems counts on you as a reader and person understanding that immortality is absolutely a curse. I find that if people can’t really enter that frame of mind they can’t really gel with the Stormcast. Like they’re basically an army of Dark Souls characters. “Immortal” beings whose sense of self is directly tied to the state of their immortality. The difference between hollow and undead. Yeah you respawn but who comes back? You not only are experiencing involuntary ego death, super magical dementia and PTSD, losing actual time as reforging can be anywhere between a day or years. You can fight for a fortress one day and then one death later everything you fought for including yourself is irreparably changed or just gone. Theres a conundrum in the scale of stakes as I call it. Because their personal stakes are dire and critical for them and nearly irrelevant for everyone else because it’s a Post-Post Apocalyptic hellhole in which everyone understands loss so keenly that the idea of being an immortal demigod suffering an eternity of war and losses for people who don’t have the time to care about you is appealing to a person living in the mortal realms. It’s the ship of Theseus writ large on a faction and thematically humanity. Reforging itself isn’t a walk in the park either you’re fully conscious as your soul is literally hammered and forged god, it’s a painstaking process that rebuilds you on a molecular level. Much is demanded of whom to much is given.

[@ejmongrove372]

I simply put as a space marine dies but they die as themselves a stormcast continues on until there is no "self" left, which is terrifying to me.

[@Gigasius]

*Slams table* Thank you! This is exactly why I find Stormcast so intriquing.

[@rarestpepe3815]

And once again Colin proves that Good Takes must come from the pancreas.

[@gumbo821]

"they're fat and they eat everything and they worship a hole in the ground" I'm already sold on the ogres, you don't have keep selling me on them.

[@Mistheart101]

2:10:15 I had a very simple reason for saying Mawussy: The Great Maw was described as "a hole in the ground" AND I KNEW WHAT HAD TO BE DONE!

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

In the words of the Beatle's "LET'S DO IT IN THE ROAD."

[@GaiaGreen3]

"Bioshock Infinite is good" i've never lost respect for someone's opinions so fast

[@Neddicus]

Bioshock infinite is GOATED. 1 is also GOATED 2 ruined me because I was around 13 the time I played that. I learned that "Daddy" was a thing some Chick's call their man's. And Hearing the little sisters say that shit to me gave me an aneurysm every time. Like I had to pause every time and die of cringe, it grossed me out so bad 😂

[@speetza6265]

23:50 I return from the livestream to watch Eli mention the Blue Scribes for a second time, truly a blessed day.

[@originalfreak3142]

Question for you assembled lore-tubers: What are the chances that the Genestealers Cults worship of the "Four Armed Emperor" has created an entity in the warp? If the Tau can do it, why can't they?

[@noobatgames3321]

because there part of the hive mind ? it might strengthen the hive mind tho. because I doubt the nids would let themselves create an adversary

[@DeadliftsForTheDarkGods]

Four armed emperor is just the Patriarch and/or hive mind so they worship something that already exists imo

[@minibotas9496]

Not who you were asking this question to, but I believe that since the Hive Mind already projects a “Shadow in the Warp” that inhibits anything warp-related (or isolates it), literally nothing would happen. If the Genestealer Cult could project something within the Warp, it would be contained within the Shadow and fizzle out the moment the Cult got assimilated. No impact to be done. But that’s just a take of some rando on the internet.

[@samfish2550]

My problem with disciples of tzeench is the fodder troops. I think tzeench and his front line mortal followers I think one of 3 paths: --Fledgling sorcerer vying for more power. --Duped followers who have no more purpose beyond being a half-chaos spawn monster/berserker. --A backstabbing rouge, stay in the shadows and wait for the right moment to kill an important target. Get some planning and subterfuge in there. The problem is that they are none of that, they are just standard buff low armor mooks with shields, swords, and axes. They DO have the bird motifs which I do like but compare that to the half armored seething brick shithouses of khorne, the extravagance and beauty in the lithe warriors of slaanesh, or the rusted, bloated, mutated wall of flesh that matches for nurgle. They are...... Fine for tzeench but the others either didn't deviate from the base cultist look because they didn't have to or genuinely changed it in a way that plays into the fantasy their god offers. The Tzeench cultists are a C among As and Ss. I'm not mad, just disappointed.

[@milesupshur9869]

I must be exhausted because when the elves vs ogres debate happened I didn't even realize I was cackling

[@BoneTrait]

1:27:12 I HIGHLY suggest you guys look more into Age of Sigmar lore. There’s a general sentiment among a lot of people that AoS is still this thing that “needs more time”, and as someone who has been getting super into AoS over the past year, I highly recommend sitting down and actually reading the Battletomes and the Core Rulebook. There is stuff there, some good, some bad, but there ARE things to look into.

[@BoneTrait]

If you guys want some good starters, I highly suggest Soul Wars, the Grotrek, and once you’re more into the lore looking into the recent Skaventide book. They’re legitimately good reads. As for more mid-tier stuff, the two Hallowed Knights novels about the Stormcast group of the same name is interesting. It’s not the best, but it’s a fun romp.

[@MySuperPowerIsITouchGrass]

Agreed, stormcast have way more depth than is implied in this video. Or at a minimum, they have more depth than the dark angels. Also, Godeaters Son is a better book than the vast majority of 40k novels.

[@MikeTheBretonianGrailKnight]

1:52:00 I would like to say that Colin write your will, tell you nonexistent family that you love them and pray God has Mercy on your soul, because your not waking up tomorrow.

[@KingLich451]

xD

[@JoshKeeling-lt7xl]

because *you’re not waking up tomorrow

[@project4061]

1:46:44 I hate "Day of Ascension," as a Genestealer book. It's great for Mechanicus (especially the heritek), but terrible for the Stealers. Just one cry of rebellion causing a storm to flow doesn't work for me. Now if it was surgical gorilla warfare strikes that would make it better. See the brief glimpses of them in "The Infinite and the Divine" as an example. Genestealers are better than the Mechanicus for me in many respects overall.

[@myonlyfriendtheend4958]

ELI FOR GOD'S SAKE READ PETER FEHERVARI HAS MULTIPLE BOOKS ON GOATED TAU LORE HE LEGIT HAS A BOOK CALLED FIREWARRIOR

[@zjjohnson3827]

When talking about the Sisters Of Silence you completely overlooked that the final volume of The Beast Arises features them *heavily*

[@KingLich451]

love ya lads so much, big big.

[@kmoney890]

1:51:39 Lizardmen and Vampire Counts absolutely Lizards get to actually be relevant and be an ancient magical technological civilization without being stuck in a box in the corner of the map. Vampire counts get to exist beyond the Von carsteins

[@ce4879]

For vampires I like that Deathrattle make skeletons a race too like pseudo-Tomb Kings but instead of not!egyptians it’s literally skeletons rising up anywhere in the Realms and rebuilding their lost kingdom. With all kinds of variety from oriental Aqshy wight kings that are fiery warlords to Mediterranean Hysh philosopher skeleton kings with even more ancient leaders recalling the times of the Age of Myth where their undead forms served as Shyish emissaries to Azyr and jousted with demigods in sport or those that lead Nagash’s legions in building the first cities for civilization when he was part of the Order pantheon. 💀 👍

[@_NutcasE_]

Colin's regular Eldar cope section made it in.

[@kmoney890]

Absolutely everyone who’s into Idoneth should read Lurien’s novel

[@jamesgallagher4304]

Damn. Eli with the Chud takes in this episode

[@kmoney890]

I would absolutely read a book about the administratum. Books that talk about how the Imperium work in practice rule. It’s why I love vaults of Terra and witchbringer

[@SomersetDrinker]

The stormcast is simply a vessel for Hamilcar Bear-Eater. Also, soul blight are S tier for me without Mannfred, his mere existence is F tier.

[@digunder14]

40k orks are no more malicious by default than humans

[@spice615]

I'm 100% with you on the sister of silence in The Tithes, Pancreas. She was a badass in her own right, was basically exactly what I want a sister to be, and "Atlacoya, Oblivion Knight of the Anathema Psykana" is an S-tier badass title.

[@GamesWorkshopsFlyingCircus]

#WhoWoreItBetter Suneater edition: Kaldor Draigo or Boingob?

[@Battlechicken12]

Colin where’s Thanquols video

[@ThanquolAndBoneripper]

Eli is my prophet bro “Drazhar kills 1 billion Custodes”- Eli. Malekith true phoenix king for life

[@spencerpollock5688]

Can you do the fimir faction and the minor chaos being Kroll lore

[@dinkosaurusrex7746]

#WhoWoreItBetter Diabetes edition: Wilford Brimley or Colin?

[@InquisitorKryptman]

Colin's wack for saying the Emperor's children shoulder pads reveal look like something off of MyMiniFactory clearly he doesn't remember them doing the same thing for World Eaters last year and is going to have to roll all that back when they show off the first noise marine mark my words.

[@InquisitorKryptman]

I'm going to clip his reaction and shackle him by his shame that it'll make even Morathi blush.

[@x7x2porters]

I’ll say my piece and will be controversial but, space marines are the Mary Sue’s of grimdark and them being higher than chaos undivided let alone the Empire of man is an insult, I’ll die on that hill 😎

[@ronanHanni]

The only thing that botthers me is the position of Bretonia right before the wood elfs. Dont get me wrong the bretonia knight models loock cool and wood elfs have no models at this point in time but for me wood elfs would be higher.

[@Neddicus]

Secret level is that animation

[@randomusernameCallin]

I often wonder if GW want Tau to remove. From bad army rules and the only novel were by someone that hate Tau.

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

I think they like the Tau, about as much as the Harlequins.

[@Buch0u_1]

Love me CSM. A tier is fair

[@darrianweathington1923]

I got the baby oil ready. Time for the Lore off… my money is the Colin, taking on all 21 primarchs. (Pancreas might not work but that neck do) 😃

[@msmith1890]

Is Colin a Skaven or just a Skaven collaborator?

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

Yes-true.

[@Sercotani]

ranked by lore? rank dn

[@bro-brolostinthought81]

Ha i made Magnus commander of my experience counter deck dirt cheap blatant thievery/firemind foresight 😈

[@thadmeboy1129]

The dwarfs better be in S tier

[@thadmeboy1129]

I didn't see any old world dwarfs. The book has been updated

[@kore6f6]

Orkz high or I’m gonna poop

[@demo0831]

Simgar lore done badly here, Stormcast are far more interesting to me than space marines. Its hard to have depth when baseline you have to be a brainwashed genocidal maniac. I Endorse Colins Sigmar love, and Ellis old Tau lore love. Glory to the actual good guy factions

[@deforesttappan6478]

It's a Lore Crime not to watch this channel!!!

[@JustSomeWeirdo]

Hey when will you upload these to Apple Podcasts? Or is it under a different name?

[@MySuperPowerIsITouchGrass]

1:48:56 that is certainly a take........

[@muratferguson4534]

Where are the Black Templars?

[@drow_Lilith9940]

bioshock infinite aka half of a good game than shit the bed and try to both side racsim

[@_NutcasE_]

Saying that imperium is needlesly cruel is wild. Having a sunshine and rainbows empire will not magically stop lures of chaos nor stop genestealer hormones from working.

[@Gigasius]

There is a common saying that Imperium doesn't endure because of it's cruelty, it endure in spite of it's cruelty. Most of those cults thrive just because Imperium is so terrible to it's people. Heck, every books opens with a text that has this part: "To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times."

[@_NutcasE_]

@Gigasius cults do not form because imperium is so cruel they form because of lures of chaos. Being kind will not stop chaos lures. We have entire heresy where good men fall to chaos simply because they are tempted by their base desires. Because chaos existed before M41 imperium and already had cultists before it. Chaos became the powerhouse it is today because imperium pretended the cults dont exist while they were trying to reclaim their lost splender.

[@_NutcasE_]

@@Gigasius saying "needlesly cruel" implies its done for the lolz. When in truth its done because being lax resulted in the largest civil war in human history in M31. As galaxy burned. Chaos claimed many souls and is now a threat beyond imagination. Where innocent men can spread its influence without ever knowing about it. Inquisitors have to gamble with worlds to minimize damage of a chaos incursion, planetary uprising, open rebellion, tyranid/genestealer infestatation or the literal planet waking up as a tomb of robots. They have to do what they do and they are still losing. What do you think it will achieve to start holding hands and singing kumbaya? You let genestealers spread like wildfire, chaos cultist walk on open streets corrupt aristrocrats multiplying overnight. Even guilliman had to come to terms that it has to be this way.

[@_NutcasE_]

@@Gigasius The point isnt that the imperium isnt cruel. The point is that it's cruel because it has to be. They are very strict with it and chaos still spreads and genestealers still replicate. all the while other xenos try to pillage. Imperium was better at its inception and during that time chaos abused Imperial Truth to spread in plain sight.

[@calumbarclay4966]

Only half hour in but you guys need to differentiate between lore and story

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

Colin doesn’t understand Warhammer. Hilarious

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

Pancreas is cringe “How many GW writers need to tell you the imperium is needlessly cruel” Quit being so smug while being condescending. I don’t care what they say 😂

[@demo0831]

bros mad Pancreas has media litteracy? wild