Tesla Model X or Rivian R1S | Which is the ULTIMATE Family Electric SUV?

[@sparklander]

We took a test drive in the Rivian R1S today and it had much more room than we expected. It is more off-road worthy than the Tesla and the interior is more luxurious. The tri-motor can really get up and go.

[@1200CartaLane]

That Tri motor got some get up

[@itzlion6529]

Which one had a better ride quality

[@UTECHPIA]

Years ago, you made me a fan of Teslas…. Now I am seriously interested in a R1S, after watching your video. 😅🤦‍♂️

[@EverydayChris]

hahah

[@MM-bw1lo]

@@EverydayChris Chris is biased and cringe, bro when you fake acted like you couldn't get a second suitcase in the model x, I was like you gotta be a paid plant for Rivian and they must be giving you a free car cause you was sucking on Rivian real hard and biased AF.

[@MiaSoreryOF]

Hold off until you see if they go bankrupt or not need cash from VW was a desperation move and VW themselves are having big layoffs and the next 5 years from them are going to be terrible.

[@voxtek]

Do it, I have the R1T you will not regret it.

[@MiaSoreryOF]

@@voxtek he will if they go bankrupt which all indications are that they will

[@jambaman916]

Coming from Tesla, Rivian is just a much better vehicle. I don't know why anyone would buy the X and keep it 5 seater. Just get the Y for half the price. The real world miles are the game changer tho. Tesla states 330 miles, but we've never gotten more than 250 miles on a full charge. Whereas Rivian will actually give you the estimate range.

[@ATerryB]

He said it pretty well at the end of his video. If you offroad, have many kids, etc - Rivian, if you want more comfortable ride, easy access using falcon doors, tax credit on 5 seater, etc - it's an X. Y is not the same and cannot compare to X at all (very different car imho).

[@EverydayChris]

@ATerryB nice

[@urgetodrive]

100% seen the same thing with my Rivian and Tesla on range. Tesla range is a joke…a bad joke.

[@SirishShrestha-w6z]

​@@urgetodriveit's bcs tesla owners just drat race at every intersection 😂

[@Mkaczynski1]

Rivian for the win!! 🥇 Tesla needs a refresh asap

[@MiaSoreryOF]

The “looks” of the vehicle is literally the least important thing when determining which is a family car and or road trip family car.

[@prestonkim7962]

I have owned both. 2 model x’s. And the Rivian is much more fun to drive. Controlling ride height is only possible in the Rivian. You should only compare 7 seater to 7 seater. In that case you didnt show yourself sitting in the third row as a 6 footer because that would be impossible.

[@stevetran9772]

I just received delivery of a R1S Performance Adventure Max this past Saturday. I currently drive a Tesla Model 3 and I can definitely say the R1S is an amazing car. Fun to drive with accurate range. Can’t wait to get R2.

[@Datguylong]

Issue with the R1S for kids is that the 2nd row seatbelt is on the C pillar instead of the seat making the 3rd row inaccessible if you have two car seats. Wish it came with captains seats option like the MX.

[@rj8u]

Simple answer and question is Do you want a minivan or a Range Rover 😜. Tesla fanboy will cry over this 🫣. R1S is just a superior vehicle and value. The only thing positive about the Model X is Tesla superchargers. Tesla service center sucks. An air vent that does not provide air conditioner is beyond me for a $100k car

[@awash7156]

Rivians can charge at many (not all) Tesla supercharger locations now

[@khanhnvo]

The more accurate comparison is do you want a minivan or a Land Cruiser on batteries :)

[@liljay300000]

@@khanhnvo Its more comparable to a Land Rover/Range Rover than a Land Cruiser

[@jialinzhang61]

The mirror in Rivian is not an issue at all because Rivian's cameras are usable all the time. So I can drive with the big display showing the rear view camera and not worrying about stacking luggage blocking my sight.

[@midnight_scavenger]

Good honest review. I prefer the gen 2 R1S over the X. They really need to refresh the X before I would consider it. Rivian’s financials are running a similar path as Tesla did when they started. Hoping they make it. We need more EVs on the road.

[@Grandfatherproductions]

UMMM, NO. do your homework. Rivian financials are much worst than Tesla at the same point. Rivian has negative auto gross margin by a massive amount with much larger cash burn than Tesla had even adjusted for inflation.

[@italianoftheeast2481]

Rivian sucks big time

[@MiaSoreryOF]

Rivians financials are no where near Tesla, Tesla was never burning that much cash and rivian isn’t a new company it’s already 15years old. With its current vehicle rivian doesn’t have a path to profitability, it’s only path for that is its smaller SUV which won’t even be in mass production until 28’-29’. The issue is rivian is being led by a liberal soy boy of a CEO who has a rich daddy(bezos) so they have never had to cut costs, cut employees, trim dead weight and make aggressive moves.

[@liljay300000]

@@MiaSoreryOF It took 17 years for Tesla to Turn a profit. You are spreading the exact same FUD that people where spreading about Tesla just 5 years ago. Rivian right now is at the same Junction that Tesal was when they where getting ready to launch the model 3.

[@MiaSoreryOF]

@@liljay300000 Tesla started with a expensive 2seater EXPENSIVE sports car, then an Expensive luxury season both very tiny markets with UNPROVEN technology. Also with very little funding. Rivian started with the absolute largest market in the US(trucks & SUVs) rivian started with virtual unlimited money from Amazon & a crazy stock market that was trowing money at anything EV(because of Tesla) rivian not only started with the road paved and into the largest auto segment but they have guaranteed orders of their delivery van from Amazon. Given all that telsa NEVER lost even a fraction of the money rivian is losing & rivian still doesn’t even have a path for profitability for years to come. So the comparison you are making is just plain ignorant

[@glennmoss1681]

You need to turn on 'adapter required' in the route planning to get it to navigate to Tesla sites. It was off by default in my R1S

[@adiaz316]

You beat me to it

[@EverydayChris]

Nice! Will try it for the road trip

[@luizfl]

Nice battle ... but will take the X. Have all Tesla line up but is not the car and the all Brand. Service Centers and Super charges make the whole diference for TESLA.

[@jmattos]

This was my logic too.. but I've recently been making myself charge on the EA network since we also have free access because of an Ioniq 5 purchase (great fucking car btw, totally the eqaul of the model y). I road tripped to LA from Vegas and had ZERO issues on the (free) EA network.. so they're catching up. Also other manufacturers don't have the stink of Elon Musk. Im very strongly considering selling my X and getting an R1S. I've driven it, and I agree with other comments here, its absolutely as good as the Model X. FSD is a bit more advanced of course, but honestly not for what I want it for which is highway LKA. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I definitely wont be buying another new tesla in any event. they've stagnated and allowed the competition to pass them.

[@jmattos]

Also.. the service centers? Im glad you've had good experiences, but mine have been nothing short of nightmare. Tesla FAMOUSLY has shit service. Rivian might not be great but its certainly not a tesla selling point. once you drive away you're on your own.

[@adiaz316]

Rivian service has been great for me. Reminds me of the early days of Tesla when it was more personal.

[@robp3431]

If you vote X, then you might as well get the Y, save even more $$ and don't have to worry about the rear doors malfunctioning.

[@s.porter8646]

Zero Rivian service in japan, but i havent needed any in 3 years

[@EarthWatchers9999]

How did you get the Rivian? I am living in Japan too but don’t know how I can get it

[@s.porter8646]

@@EarthWatchers9999 where in JP are you located

[@EarthWatchers9999]

@@s.porter8646 Thank you for your comment. I am living in Tokyo

[@s.porter8646]

@@EarthWatchers9999 so have to pick up in the states, have the dealer set up transport mode, then there's a EV shop in Yokohama that will help with any updates

[@EarthWatchers9999]

@@s.porter8646 This information is very helpful to me, thank you. If it's not too far, could you give me a chance to see a Rivian in person? I live in Harumi, Tokyo and drive a Tesla X.

[@danielam3829]

This is an apples to oranges comparison. If you’re looking for a station wagon to haul your kids to their soccer games, get a Model X. If you want an adventure vehicle that has a lot of versatility to haul gear, R1S wins. The Model X can haul anything overhead, obviously, so that’s a major drawback if you’re looking to go on a long road trip, camping with bikes or a kayak. I own both, so I have some first hand experience. I actually prefer some aspects of Tesla over Rivian. The motors are soother and quieter with Tesla. The Tesla operating system and driving autonomy is years ahead of Rivian, obviously. If you live 5 hours from the nearest Rivian service center, I’d advise you to not buy one unless you don’t mind taking a PTO day just to drop it off. I’ve had to take my R1S 4 times to service. Fortunately I live only 2 hours from Normal.

[@cwang9915]

I have no hate, I have both a R1S and X. Prefer the X but take the R1S when I need the space. A big difference between the 2 is efficiency. The X is much more efficient and feels like driving a car vs the Rivian feels like driving a truck

[@Rx100Vx]

R1S Gen 2 any day

[@Greggory1987]

Great comparison but I would still say Model X for the win!

[@stephenlee9553]

I hope the next generation revamped the suspension system because the suspension system on my 2023 R1S failed the very first day I got it. While proudly showing the car to my friends, a sudden puff of air erupted, and we watched in disbelief as the front of the vehicle dropped so low that the frame nearly touched the front wheels. Rivian towed the car, and it was repaired within a few days. However, a year and 21,000 miles later, the same issue happened again-this time while driving on the freeway. I had to pull over and fortunately live near a service center in Costa Mesa. The car was towed again, but with this problem recurring within a year, I strongly suspect a significant flaw in the suspension system. I’m relieved this didn’t occur during a mountain ski trip or a desert adventure, as Rivian markets the vehicle for. Now, I hesitate to drive the R1S far from home due to fear of another breakdown. The vehicle has been sitting at the service center for days without being examined. Despite multiple calls, I’ve only been told that the shop is backed up and they’ll get to it when they can. VERY DISAPPOINTED! Rivian needs to expand its network of service centers to better address the flood of issues reported by its customers.

[@tonydeveyra4611]

I'm considering the R1S right now because it will be great for car camping and it could tow the RV i'm planning to get in the future. That said, if/when Tesla makes a Cybervan, all bets are off.

[@claeslind9532]

I was thinking the same but now when Tesla came out with that useless van that you can’t even drive I’m getting a rivian r1s now

[@tonydeveyra4611]

@claeslind9532 I'm pretty torn on which vehicle I'll get next. The cybertruck is better than the R1S in every imaginable way and by every measurable spec...but I need an SUV form factor for my adventures, not a truck. I'll probably keep rolling with my model y camper for the next year or so then make up my mind later.

[@claeslind9532]

@@tonydeveyra4611 Yeah don’t know much about the cyber truck but I would say that one is more compatible to the r1t. So yeah I need space and I want to camp too, the r1s has more space for all that, even the fronk, for camping the r1s has a 110 V outlet, the Tesla’s don’t, so you can use the cars battery for any devices, and battery for the R1s is 140 kWh compared to the X of only well not only, still good for an EV but 100 is Tesla’s max. 40 more is huge, you can spend more days bondoking with the AC full blast for example. Then the versatility of raising the suspension for off-road or lower for normal use. Also now with gen 2 the cameras are better and the computes are 10 more powerful than previous gen 1, also if you get the gen 2 rivian r1s it has better cameras and the upgraded equipment to handle fully autonomous self driving update over the air(comping from a spokesperson of rivian) you can also charge at Tesla’s superchargers. Build quality is better. All this makes it easy for me. I really like Tesla’s technology especially the fully self driving feature and how good it is but the benefits of the rivian is just better.

[@tonydeveyra4611]

@@claeslind9532 the Cybertruck has a far better air suspension than the R1 platform. It operates much more smoothly, raises and lowers faster, and I think it's mainly because it operates on that 48v architecture. Cybertruck also has 4 wheel steering, which makes it more maneuverable and drive like a smaller car, able to get into tighter spaces than the R1s. It also has both 110v and 220v. Cybertruck battery pack is 123kWh, I believe, and its a lot more efficient than the R1s, with regard to wh/mi. that said, I have had my Model Y for 3 years now. IN that time, my wife and I have probably spent three months or so total living in it during our longer camping trips. It's been great. I do wish it had a 110v outlet, but leaning on a portable battery (that recharges with the 12V cigarette lighter outlet) works well enough, and provides portable power too as an upside. We have a hitch rack cargo carrier to hold more stuff. Great platform overall for car camping, would recommend it. If Rivian were to ever license FSD from Tesla and run it on the R1S...that would change my calculations a lot. It becomes a far more attractive vehicle. And yeah, while the R1S is compatible with some superchargers at this point...seeing Chris' videos of actually plugging the R1S in at superchargers...it honestly seems kinda crappy compared to my experience with the Model Y right now.

[@dominicwilkerson]

I've been wanting to get an EV for the longest time. I had the Model 3 ordered twice, but decided to back out due to it not having google maps. I went with an EV6 as my first full EV. Loved it with Android Auto. BUT... I wanted something that could offroad too. FInally there were more and more Rivians available. No Android Auto though. I do have to go through two steps to send the address to my Rivian, but it has been good to me the last year and a half.

[@AcceleratingTech]

Great review! 😊Very thorough & great comparisons!

[@DatLilAsian]

i just want the X because the wing doors xD but model Y is more for me for sure. makes sense tesla real babies are the 3 and Y. S and X need updating for sure.

[@Jetcarson4]

I’m a Tesla guy, but the Rivian looks really cool!

[@ferrocone]

Bro you bought your Model X in 2023? Can you share how underwater you are? I wonder if the pre-refresh R1S suffered the same fate after the recent refresh

[@EverydayChris]

Bruuuh read my mind it’s coming soon it’s bad

[@davidy5993]

Who buys a vehicle to drive for a few years? You can probably avoid going underwater if you lease.

[@alesandraleckie5061]

As a pre refresh R1S quad owner, yes we lost a lot of value

[@mailaandjames]

Can’t even trade my Model X coz I’ll lose a lot of money. I like EVs but will lease from here on out.

[@NewtonNuggets]

@@alesandraleckie5061did you? I dont think so because I got it pre price hike

[@VishnuKamath]

The day Rivian brings out a Model Y type vehicle i am going to move to Rivian.

[@EverydayChris]

R2!!!!

[@gerrylum]

R2 model is coming out in 2026!

[@davidy5993]

Even though the R1S supports the supercharger network now, it takes up 2 spaces based on where the charging port is located. That's a major downside unless you're charging at a location with a lot of chargers. No one talks about the charging efficiency of R1S. Despite the r1s max having the largest range, how long does it take to charge it up say from 30% to 75% versus a tesla?

[@elonrichardson1743]

And the *Not My Family *. You are hilarious.

[@dlewis787]

Honestly, Kia EV9 over both. I really like Tesla and Rivian, but Kia nailed the EV9. Really good price with good features and true next gen charging. The Hyundai version will have native NACS charging port when it is unveiled at the end of the year.

[@liljay300000]

You are essentially comparing a ford explorer to a range rover. They are not even in the same market

[@markmedley6849]

GM has rolled out junk for years however the Silverado EV caught my attention. It’s a sully cool at first glance. I wonder if it’s a better pick than the Rivian or Tesla.

[@debrafischer]

I have both a Tesla X and an R1T (not an R1S). Both are great cars but I appreciate the 100% renewable power for the Rivian Adventure Network. The R1T is a lot more fun, with a range that is true (the range on the X is always about 20% less than what is listed) but the seats on the X are unbeatable for comfort. The third row on the X is almost unusable (even for small kids or our dogs) - I wouldn't bother to pay for a third row on the X.

[@dangerkadung]

Don’t be silly guys, all the kids love the Tesla and the falcon doors is a home run. My kids only want their mom to pick them up in a Tesla X.

[@flim360]

I want the Rivian design and made quality but I wished it had software and support of Tesla. I'm just concerned about the longevity of Rivian and the Tesla FSD is giving me serious fomo. Very conflicted.

[@MrSpeedyGonzalez]

Lets see the trip to Vegas with you in the 3rd row seat in the R1S

[@davidtrebich4638]

About a tie between them. But Elon Musk’s character makes Rivian the clear winner. Don’t want to enable a person who I think is morally compromised.

[@kidamere2408]

Yeah God forbid someone appreciates free speech maybe your the one compromised

[@davidtrebich4638]

@@kidamere2408free speech is not giving 45 millions of dollars each month to a Sociopathic ConMan who subverts the freedom of the press by calling them the enemy of the people. Just think.

[@RobertPitas]

LOL Elon Musk has literally done more for humankind and the environment than the entire US government combined. Billions of our tax dollars were wasted by the government to provide rural access to the internet, but it took Elon to do it. Govt failed at creating charging infrastructure for electric cars too. Hell the Govt has to use Space-X to get satellites into space and rescue astronauts because they can’t get their act together. But the most ironic thing is that when the Govt directly goes against people’s civil rights and spreads misinformation to cover it and Elon pushes back and tries to protect the things that literally made the US what it is today, people like you who are susceptible to propaganda swallow it hook, line and sinker.

[@MrSteviethegreat]

@@kidamere2408 free speech is for the government not to make sure the government can control what you say that doesn’t mean that you’re free from repercussions of speech from your job or the public. I don’t want my money going to someone who I think is hurtful to my environment or the people that I care about. I support you being able to say anything you want that doesn’t mean I’m giving you my money though

[@kidamere2408]

@MrSteviethegreat I'm not sure what any of that means good luck to ya

[@pimpinassassin]

R1s just has that genesequa

[@johnjohn3241]

Model X for sure.

[@cindyhernandez7852]

Can you link the adapter you have ?

[@romanivanov6183]

Have you tried an amazing Rivian's FSD?

[@EverydayChris]

Yeah! But soon with the updated software :)

[@awash7156]

In fairness, Rivian has always said they are not pursuing “FSD” but rather just improvements to assist the human driver as opposed to Tesla who is wants to take the driver out of the equation entirely….and if we are being intellectually honest here, Tesla has been charging a lot of $$ for an incomplete product for a long time

[@adiaz316]

I left Tesla for rivian and have no regrets. 3 years ago I would never buy an EV that wasn't a Tesla. Now I will probably never buy an EV that is a Tesla. That being said, it's not because of Tesla, it's solely because of Elon. And rivian is just awesome

[@joshuatejiri2353]

You are the definition of a radical. Imagine hating a quality product because the owner differs from you politically. Liberals are insufferable.

[@davidhein6044]

Rivian is not available in México but the model X is so there's not much choice except the ID Buzz which is very expensive as well

[@elonrichardson1743]

The parental advisory sticker was hilarious. I had to replay to make sure that's what I saw.

[@davidbraverman1]

Second gen was more than a mini refresh. They upgraded a long list of stuff.

[@mhatrey]

In few months, Lucid Gravity will be

[@EverydayChris]

You think so?? I'm excited!

[@rayeemon]

I'm excited for the Gravity! I'm either waiting to get the rivian or the lucid

[@urgetodrive]

The Rivian range is much more realistic than the crazy optimistic Tesla. I’ll bet you that the Rivian with 270 mile range will go further than the X with 335 miles of range. Guarantee it.

[@2bethere]

It’s all about software, if I want to go off-road, I will just use my gx

[@SmoothSkySailin]

I've got a tesla and love it. But I would not have thought twice about spending 15-25k more to get an EV minivan with +330 mile range. I'm convinced this is the biggest hole in the EV market.

[@jialinzhang61]

There is an EV minivan in the market now: VW ID Buzz; but don't buy it because it has limited storage space. R1S is the only one in the current market that can sit 6 and hold all the luggage in the car at the same time. Any other car would have to put its luggage on a tow cargo carrier or a rooftop cargo, which is inefficient, noisy, and inconvenient.

[@SmoothSkySailin]

@@jialinzhang61 Ya, that VW is cool but also disappointing. That's why i added the qualifier that it needs to have +330 mile range.. But now that i think about it, i bet 95% of minivan trips are less than 100 miles and mostly just used for quick local trips.

[@Quirkythrills90]

Test drove an R1S and their driver assist is horrendous! Fsd is miles ahead and this prevents us from moving to R1S. Mechanically sound vehicle but software still needs work.

[@brandonthomas6862]

Just a note, do not do any kind of driving in conserve other than straight consistent speed on a highway type driving. It puts the car into a place with more negative camber and disconnects the rear drive unit. It handles and drives like absolute garbage and will wear down the tires like crazy. It's only for a very limited set of driving on road trips. Use all-purpose for anything else.

[@heatherevans2991]

You can't forget that Rivian might not make it another 5 or 10 years. Maybe next time, but outcome of Tesla doesn't scare me as much. Would hate to own a car from a company that throws in the towel.

[@TransitAndTeslas]

Tesla. Not like I’m biased or anything.

[@light-rd7vq]

Hey guys the tax credits dont even really factor for these vehicles to be honest because no one purchasing these cars qualify for the tax credits lets be honest now theres a income limit for the tax credit

[@khanhnvo]

Two different cars for different lifestyles...period. Just tell me how you are going to put a roof top tent on the X! Have the R1S.

[@danielam3829]

Exactly!

[@magic_fruit_bat5003]

Tesla needs to desperately refresh the S & X models.

[@TeslaTravelsandStops]

Tesla. There is no substitute imo

[@googleuser2170]

I really dislike Telsa's interiors these days. When the OG Model S it was seen as futuristic and minimalist, but the market has moved on so much since 2012 and Tesla hasn't. The Tesla interior just feels like cost-cutting disguised as "minimalism".

[@DennisCW]

Rivian R1S or Model 3 P? - thats what im debating right now lolol

[@EverydayChris]

Haha no kids? Model 3 is gonna be so much fun

[@Jukeboxchigg]

Really depends on if you are an outdoorsy type. If you are, then rivian for sure, the off road capabilities, car camping, towing (short distances). If your not super outdoorsy, that new model 3p is so 🔥

[@Art-gq7ul]

The longer I have my Tesla the more I understand that the reason I love it is the minimalist interior; hands down !

[@TheParsaver]

Affordability, Service Centers, Ride Quality Family Friendly, Software Quality Drive Assistance -FSD, AP and so many more... Tesla model X all~ day !

[@USNEM]

Model X is one of the worst cars on the road today.

[@Brian_Life]

​@@USNEMWhy?

[@weatherman8123]

Model X is one of the most problematic Teslas.

[@TheParsaver]

@@weatherman8123 Still better than R1S.

[@howardlee7364]

I own both. If you don't care FSD, get Rivian.

[@speedpursuer8831]

Big crossover vs. full-size SUV: Tesla is likely to introduce a CyberSUV to compete.

[@fredricgrethel1717]

Tesla is dated. They are being lapped by others. Elmo has lost interest. He is too busy being the bootlicker to a wannabe dictator. Tesla is truly yesterday’s story.

[@TeslaElonSpaceXFan]

Model X 😍

[@hwi7114]

The Tesla self parking is already a thing with FSD. My 2024 Model Y can park itself.

[@TomTomdog]

gimmick

[@michaellatta]

I would like the size of the r1s, but I will never buy a car again that does not have FSD.

[@abdull3611]

R1S is way better than model x.

[@harry3471]

Rivian is a nice vehicle but so is the Tesla. But will Rivian be around for awhile? Hate to spend that kind of money on a car and then watch the manufacturer go out of business.

[@charlesxavier1904]

They need to make a van

[@9nghia670]

X 24/7 😍

[@ali2k4]

Model X is a station wagon where as Rivian is not and you can offroad

[@marcelrodriguez2067]

76k is still a shit ton of money for a car. I will wait for the R2 or just buy used.

[@iConicWillYT]

2 minute FAM!

[@flyingyakdeath]

Neither make any sense. The Y can do everything 99% of families want in a car. Yes, a car, not an offroad rock crawler.

[@A_page_a_day]

Lol, 80k is reasonable priced for who?

[@PhoenixSS]

Tesla is better

[@TheMazi56]

The model X is not a SUV. It is a large crossover.

[@goodeye5226]

Nothing but problems with Tesla. With Rivian I haven’t had to do anything for a year.

[@EverydayChris]

My friend got a gen 2 rivian and had nothing but issues. Another friend got a gen 1 rivian and died in his driveway. Things happen to all companies

[@AnthonyH-to8cs]

Not the parental advisory 😂

[@awparker85]

Yes they are better than Tesla

[@rdk3996]

Who wants to pay $20K more for the R1S?

[@rdk3996]

$20K price difference!!!

[@Aro800]

EV9 🤷

[@GabeNY-jn7ep]

i love my R1S, quality is much better than Tesla.

[@RCledera]

Good luck to servicing your Rivian after the company goes bankrupt.

[@glenndjubilee]

Once you said measly, I was done.

[@squirrel7890]

Important Note: Rivian is struggling just to make a profit. Even with the (contingent) VW cash injection, Rivian is fighting for its life. Therefore, the long-term support is very much in question (just ask Fisker owners).

[@rdk3996]

Rivian won’t fit in my garage.

[@jaychu3850]

Tesla insurance is garbage….service sucks…but worst of all….Elon likes to drop prices whenever he feels like it. Good luck buying it and it holding any value. My model S refreshed I lost $25k just like that. Now I’m buried in the car cuz the value is so low. What car company drops prices like that? 🤡🤡🤡

[@Misssabul]

Don't put your loved ones in any EV . They're extremely Dangerous, no matter what the manufacturers say. They'll say anything to make a sale

[@rayc.8555]

Anyone who is considering a Rivian needs to look at their financial balance sheet. They are losing 32k per vehicle, in 2022 their stock price was 122.00, now it is 14.00. Their ROE is -35%, ROE is -62%, ROI is -45%, gross margin is -37%.oper margin is -116%, profit margin is-115%. This should scare anyone from buying one If you understand this it is saying Rivian will not exist within 18 months. Prob less. Even Elon said if they cant turn it around they will not exist. When the dust settles there might be 2 EV companies. Tesla will be one.

[@GreyEagle3]

Thanks for the update

[@JASONBao-f4h]

there are so many good qualities and good powerful ev in chinese market . It's sad only these two

[@keithferguson6422]

I dont beleive riven has a access to all tesla chargers. Let me know if im wrong. Also not a fan of the boxy look of the rivian.

[@3DragonBZ]

They do.

[@danielam3829]

Not all. some.

[@danielam3829]

Rivian are not compatible with the older V2 (150kw) superchargers. So the SC station 10 minutes from my house is incompatible. This can be somewhat of a problem if I’m traveling to a remote area and the only Tesla SC in the nearest 90 miles is the V2.

[@loopholelifestyle]

How is Tesla losing. They are making money. Rivian is burning cash with no end in sight!

[@chilis_no]

Sorry, but the Rivian (R1S) is butt ugly.

[@jmp622]

Rivian has a terrible/barely existing service and charging network. Good luck finding service center near you!

[@renntech44]

Depends on the area. I’m in Salt Lake and they’re great and now they can use the supercharger network 🤷🏻

[@Rx100Vx]

You do know that Rivian can access the Tesla supercharger network yeah ?

[@EverydayChris]

@Rx100Vx Rivian & Ford Costs Charging at a Tesla Supercharger (Tesla Owners Hate This!!) kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2mzk6CGbKeXeKc

[@jackking5631]

Costa Mesa sc is actually pretty good. Got better service than Tesla lake forest.

[@weatherman8123]

Rivian can use all networks...including Tesla. Why would charging be an issue ?