Kia EV9 vs Tesla Model X: This Was a DEALBREAKER (Part 1)

[@ItsKimJava]

Here is part 2 of this series. Enjoy! kzbin.info/www/bejne/sF6XpWN6f8uGZs0si=ZlFVuKMIbwFmdZjp

[@RyanPapa-z9c]

EV9 is literally awesome .🎉❤

[@EVunedited]

Here in Canada the diff in price with the Model X is so great that there is no competition. EV9 wins against the Model X.. And even their lower trim can beat the Model Y. Only issue with it is the lack of 360 camera on the lower trims.

[@YTYTYTY7]

V2L is the reason you buy Kia… It’s like having 25 Ecoflows…

[@marzlittle]

Living in Texas with all the electrical grid drama out here having the EV9 will pitch in with our dual 15kw house generators in an outage situation.

[@brokeboy87]

Another KZbinr charger, another EV with it. It's not recommended since it would take all day.

[@BrokenSword17]

These cars are about 10k cheaper than msrp. I own a GT EV9. Best car I’ve ever owned. I traded in a loaded 4 runner for it

[@djplonghead5403]

They look so sweet.

[@Ops535]

It s a Kia.

[@davidmenasco5743]

​@@Ops535Indeed. In the new world of EVs, that means it's one of the best cars you can buy. The antonym would be "It's a Toyota" meaning it's one of the worst EVs you can buy.

[@BioniqBob]

@Ops535 genius

[@BioniqBob]

Looking to get a new EV, Toyota is not even on the list.

[@amoreforless]

Super user friendly for the Ev 9.

[@jameshoffman552]

But at what cost? The EV nine, like every other non-Tesla EV, costs far more to manufacture than it is sold at.

[@amoreforless]

@@jameshoffman552 I doubt it , its nearly as easy to produce something great , as crap stuff , it's just about energy , will ,and attention to detail.

[@tooltalk]

@@jameshoffman552 : Kia's operating margin in 1Q 2024 (EV+ICE): 13%; Tesla 5.5%. I think Kia knows how to keep cost down.

[@adamsjdavid]

Why would I care about the company’s profit margin? Also: The world has caught up. Tesla’s last innovation was the Model 3 assembly line, and it was an absolute mess that ran on miracles. (I worked for a company involved in the automation process)

[@pollentree]

Beautiful design, EV9!

[@Saytheodd]

I’d take the 10 year warranty

[@bigbufobufo]

EV9 is like a dream❤❤

[@jmanjr]

I have a Model Y performance and an EV9 Land.. love them both

[@ianwalker-hu3xk]

Tesla❤

[@marzlittle]

We have the blue EV9 Land, love it.

[@Jgjginkg244]

@@ianwalker-hu3xkTesla 👎

[@IsaacGbornor-hfg]

Meaning you have the 2 cool EV 🚗, great

[@Mumble-s_Noodles]

As an owner, the ac thing isn’t a nuisance since I use auto and just adjust the temp. Also that does expand to the bigger screen if you pushed the x thing in the top right. I am also coming from a model Y that was wrecked and totaled. My. 2 cents. Kia is a better car (riding and what not) and Tesla is a better technology piece. I love both.

[@Yanquetino]

It's amazing how fast these E-GMP platforms charge at 350kW chargers, but… 'tis true that Electrify America had GOT to do better by expanding their sites, and with more *reliable* stations. Me? I'd forego the matte paint and opt for the lighted accents instead. I can attest that the forward camera is truly useful! 'Tis true that at Superchargers the max charging rate is limited (most examples I've seen are at 97kW), but… those rates *hold steady* all the way to 80%, nearly twice as fast as the percentage a Tesla has dropped to at 80%. I can tell you that I've learned to love my digital rear view mirror. Did you notice that, to change the cabin filter, you simply open a cover to access it at the back of the frunk? So much more convenient and easy than crawling into the footwell in your Tesla! For a family with kids like yours, the EV9 is the winner. No question. Can't wait to see your roadtrip in one.

[@BrianNedry]

The Kia Ev9 is a very nice full size 3 row Ev and as some options that I'm surprised that Tesla doesn't offer yet, maybe they will in time. The major head scratcher is that it's 2024 and we are halfway to 2025 and Tesla Superchargers still can't deliver charging speeds to take advantage of a 800v system. Don't get me wrong, the superchargers are very reliable and easy to use but they seem to be lagging in charging speeds compared to Electrify America or even fast chargers in Europe or Asia. I guess it wouldn't be good for their sales if the supercharger was able to deliver 200-250 kwh to non Tesla vehicles with 800v systems that can use Nacs. Imagine watching a Ev9 at the same SOC plugs in the same time you plug in your Tesla model X and the Ev9 finishes charging 10-15 mins before you, that wouldn't be amusing.

[@davidbeppler3032]

Maybe if VW loses another multi billion dollar settlement they can update and expand EA. Until that happens, nothing will change. Well... things will get worse.

[@davidmenasco5743]

Yes, it's easy to get stuck on the "peak" number and forget that what actually determines the charging experience is not that single number, but the full charging curve, or in other words, the total time spent at the charger. In this respect, both Tesla and Kia are among the best. Although, Lucid and Porsche can do even better, if you can afford it, and if you find a good 350kW charger - which is becoming easier almost every day.

[@yournumberonepal]

​@@BrianNedry Well, Kia in theory could split the pack for charging to increase the charging speed. Chevrolet does the reverse, they combine the pack to charge faster at a higher voltage station and split the pack for driving. By splitting the voltage Kia could pump more amps at half the voltage.

[@djplonghead5403]

All the lines line up on the ev9 so we’ll. Great quality for a “Kia.” They have stepped up their game massively. I don’t understand why we need a motorized charge door.

[@rp9674]

Who has the time or strength to manually open a Charged door

[@trstnhn]

@@rp9674 I could open it up twice a week as my weekly workout regimen 😀

[@DouglasJMark]

Kia is cool. Still love Tesla so much more with its amazing tech and nearly worry-free trip charging. Looking forward to. Part 2. Lotsa love to all ❤❤❤

[@thearthisyours]

Kia will equip both super charger and Tesla charger from next year. ❤

[@pinkelephants1421]

YES!!! PHYSICAL BUTTONS!!!! No having to dive into several layers of menus for the basics when on the move is a godsend, not to mention minus the driver distraction hazard when everything is so often done purely through the touchscreen.

[@Visualhead_Spacer]

i will take EV9/6 any day.

[@MarcusGillaspia]

Ev9 and tesla are both FAR superior than any gas car but the ev9 is the absolute best car in the globe. I own one and a Tesla as well. Both awesome cars.

[@geolykos]

Obviously you’ve never driven an S class or a bmw 7 series. GLS or X7 in suv equivalents.

[@eugeniustheodidactus8890]

Masterful vehicle! Enviable of the switchgear. Korea is the new Japan.

[@youdidntbuildthat47]

Uhm … no.

[@cpak11]

​@@youdidntbuildthat47 Korean EV tech and electronics are far more advanced than the Japanese.

[@youdidntbuildthat47]

@@cpak11 👈😂 according to who? You?

[@trstnhn]

@@youdidntbuildthat47 You're a nincompoop, stop making even more fool of yourself. Go look at the EVs Japan produces and come back and comment if you dare

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

@@youdidntbuildthat47 No according to those in the automotive industry. Name one worthwhile Japanese EV in our market?

[@raemill4089]

We have a GT trim and love it! They charge at around 220kw max, not 350kw. As for EA, it is def not the best network but we just road tripped a couple days ago and had no problems other than one station was full with one of the charging stations not working. We were in Atlanta and another station was relatively close by and practically empty. First charger we pulled in worked great and got from 20% to 83% in about 25 mins easy.

[@pandagomm]

EV9 Win😊

[@LoveLife-tw4ub]

Been using EA charging system for 2 years now. 99.9% of the problem is the user error. I pull up plug in and tap my phone done.....every time. I have tesla model Y and ioniq5. I have no complaints about EA system. It takes 3 seconds longer to connect than tesla charging.....deal with it!

[@Aegisx5]

I've seen that NFC reader be broken at a lot of chargers. I activate it on the app to start charging.

[@rp9674]

California, Colorado, Florida, Hawaii, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, and Virginia have passed right-to-charge laws aiming to streamline the installation of residential community EV charging stations. Also, Illinois recently passed a right-to-charge law specific to new houses or multiunit buildings.

[@davidbeppler3032]

Soon if an apartment does not have charging they will not have renters.

[@marce8760]

I just saw the ev9 for the first time. It's enormous. Like a whale on the road. You need plenty of space on the roads and parking spaces to move this thing around.

[@rommelreyes7616]

My favorite channel for EV news! I also use the front trunk for take out food. 😊 My 2023 model 3 is 1.5 years old and still smells like new. And Kim and company was my biggest inspiration to buy my Tesla.

[@ItsKimJava]

Thanks for the kind words and for supporting!

[@eugeniustheodidactus8890]

If it smells that bad, should you be eating it ?

[@rommelreyes7616]

@@eugeniustheodidactus8890 I didn’t say the food smells bad. I don’t like my car to smell like any food.

[@kelviskelvis7140]

@rommelreyes7616 I will agree this is a good channel and one of my favorites to find EV news. But, I found through watching Kim and company that it was better to steer away from the Tesla brand and be inspired to purchase from another EV brand. I am six months in switching off ICE and have no regrets. For the record, the Kia EV9 looks pretty good over the Tesla Model X as shown here by Kim and company.

[@MichaelPanzer]

Coming from a Tesla: this frunk is tiny! Coming from any other car: It has a frunk? Why?

[@Martocciaweb]

Sure would be nice if every EV would plug in on the same spot.

[@aussie2uGA]

The charging debacle for this is a major setback. The door is on the wrong side to use Tesla charger, then they cannot charge at full speed. If you can find an out of the way Electrify America station to theoretically charge quickly, you're playing Russian roulette that it will even turn on. We got spoiled by the perfect Tesla charging experiences over the years and now when you step into something like a Rivian or Kia, you really miss knowing a "supercharger" is going to be close, working, and fast. I'd pass on the KIA until things get sorted out.

[@winnerdanny7]

rivian has superchargers ?

[@aussie2uGA]

@@winnerdanny7 yep, they’re called Rivian Adventure Centers. They’re few and far between of course.

[@Yanquetino]

One solution to help "sort out" things is that A27 is now developing NACS extension cords to help deal with those short cables.

[@keithhere5868]

​@@winnerdanny7 yes with an adopter you can use tesla super chagers

[@MasizoUrek]

EV9 looks beautiful. Love it.

[@jaquanalexander2240]

At 15:18 you said to level out your car. Just for future reference, since I love your videos. That is hill descent control, basically cruise control for downhill

[@apterachallenge]

Eventually, EA will have NACS and so will every Kia/Hyundai EV. Give it a year or two...

[@thearthisyours]

Next year

[@tumbleweed1976]

Model X is so long in the tooth. Nice job Kia.

[@Martocciaweb]

Oh jeez. That key fob is enormous!

[@TheSteinbitt]

Just use your phone.

[@dennisengland9787]

I work for a company that supplies chargers to EA and I do maintenance on them. The one pictured is not from my company. EA mainly bought chargers from three companies. And instead of having those companies do maintenance on the chargers, they tried to have a single company not affiliated with any of those three do all of the maintenance. What happened was a disaster. EA then decided that they needed my company to do the maintenance on our chargers. So I started a year ago. At that time, you'd be lucky if 1-2 chargers at the 9 stations I routinely go to worked. Now it's maybe 1-2 chargers at all of my stations are down. But, I think EA is going to drop us doing the maintenance on our chargers since we are too "expensive." You get what you pay for though. EA did put some chargers at a new station at a mall from the company shown in the video. Within a week, five of the six chargers were down. And Hyundai and Kia make drastically better cars than Tesla. Tesla has way more confusing menus and controls than any car I've ever driven. Plus the drivers are snobs.

[@rogerfederer6422]

EV9 is amazing ❤

[@USATFJUMPER]

ill take the 9 and be happy woth my lease

[@jisc0]

This is great. I am thinking about getting rid of my 2019 Model X and upgrading to something newer.

[@Kampfgruppe9260]

Wasn't the Kia EV9 the EV of the year?

[@Fitforacting]

11:29 I’m surprised you didn’t mention how the model X headsets make it harder to install car seats since they don’t separate from the seat to thread the seatbelt through 😮

[@ItsKimJava]

I actually did, but didn’t make the final cut…not sure if we kept it in in part 2 though.

[@Fitforacting]

@@ItsKimJava no worries. Just reminding you

[@jackylsmith8138]

Tesla superchargers are reliable but way behind in technology and speed.

[@samguest8165]

CT 48v architecture and 800v says otherwise.

[@Bobpaule]

Just take a trip across 3 states in the Midwest and you will quickly learn Superchargers rule.

[@xxZerosumxx]

Teslas minimalist mindset will hurt them in the future.

[@zzkeokizz]

My brother has a Mustang Mach e. He got a J1772 Adapter and he can charge at a Tesla charger.

[@Annette_Hons]

Mach E for the WIN! Love mine. Although the EV9 is kinda growing on me, but likely would not buy one.

[@franklong6269]

Did Ford fix all the major problems they had with the Mach e? I heard there were a bunch of recalls for this car. Also, the Tesla charging port is a NACS port, not the 1772, but I know what you mean. I am curious, how fast does the Mach e charge on the Tesla supercharging (250KW) superchargers? Also, what type of batteries is Ford using? If Ford is using the wrong battery chemistry, the range of the batteries will significantly degrade in just a few years. Ford has a tendency to cheap-out and screw their customers in hidden ways.

[@Yourleftismyright88]

@@Annette_Hons I believe Kia and Hyundai are moving to Teslas standard chargers starting 4th quarter of this year!

[@tonyhamilton7785]

What a well successful relationship looks like and what it could come with.

[@4tune8chance65]

Certainly easier to attach kid seats than it was in the 80’s

[@JBoy340a]

Nice review. One minor thing, the latest Superchargers are V4 and many V4 installations have some stalls with the charging stand in the middle and long cables that can reach either side of the car.

[@stennordenmalm9900]

The Kia is totally crushing Tesla in almost everything. Kia is a premium car brand, Tesla is not. But Tesla biggest problem is that all models are outdated, booring and lack a lot of new tech. The competition is way ahead of Tesla, and they have a massive homework to do. ...and to get rid of Elon asap, a total embarrasment to the Tesla brand, once the leading EV manufacture

[@doomsday9973]

Kia is an economy brand it isn’t even close to premium. Are you kidding me?. 😂😂😂😂

[@dudaoutloud]

Thank you Kim and PJ! No NACS and limited charging speed…not thanks. However when KIA (and Hyundai) finally bring out NACS, this is something I would consider.

[@jpizel1070]

💯

[@tino5271]

Family road trip! I love the these videos. We get a better idea of what the vehicle capabilities are and how it performed. Thanks Kim, PJ and kiddo's!😊

[@dglennon20]

I bought those filters from your last video and that same company had Tesla connector style USB plugs that are at 90 degrees so they don't break off from back seat ruckus.

[@ItsKimJava]

We have those cables too, they’re great!

[@Annette_Hons]

The matte paint is cool and all, but people need to learn how to properly take care of it prior to buying. Great review of this vehicle so far, best one I've seen. Its not for me, I love my Mach E, but I think Kia did a great job with this one!

[@ItsKimJava]

Thanks for watching!

[@dnevs79]

Decided to lease an eV9 this weekend - Luv it. Coming from a Mustang Mach E and I also have A Tesla Model Y. The Kia is a little bouncy in comparison to the others BUT it is smoother in general driving, much more spacious… only thing I’m missing is larger center display in the other vehicles and speed, this is countered by the BEST interior. EV 9 is a great choice for families.

[@Lou_Mansfield]

The nice thing about the EV9 is that their Ceo doesn't endorse a dictator for president. That's a dealmaker for me

[@Tominori70]

For you to choose a car bc of your political view just says it all. I'm sorry but I'm gonna choose the car that best fits my life and is most efficient.

[@Lou_Mansfield]

@@Tominori70 if you've ever bought jewelry you'd understand that blood diamonds is a thing. a large demographic of customers would spend a premium to support honest businesses

[@Tominori70]

@Lou_Mansfield that depends on what outlet and resource you consider honest. Those poor kids mining these batteries are sad, but when people use environmental reasons as to why people should go electric, those people aren't thinking about those poor african children. You're judging people and someone you don't even know personally. Your virtue signaling is low class man.

[@doomsday9973]

Stop acting like a child. Who cares about a ceos politics.

[@davidtrebich4638]

I will be in the market for a larger EV SUV in about a year. Just like you, Tesla is out of the question. Musk is morally compromised as is anybody who supports a selfish ConMan.

[@rp9674]

Yes! Eventually, you won't even have to ask for it

[@benqsmith6871]

Interesting design Kia. How about software? Does Kia also collect data on roads? Traffic and road closure.

[@bigusiak]

Tap on + top right corner on AC screen and it will extend to main screen

[@444destiny]

I like the hub caps because I like tri angles. 😅

[@davidbeppler3032]

How do you change the tire?

[@stevendunn264]

I park outdoors. How does the motorized charger door hold up with a car covered with snow and ice?

[@BrianJoslyn]

I've ridden in a Kia Hybrid. I kinda want a Kia Sportage Hybrid, unless they have them as EVs now.

[@humanform5354]

EV3 will be out soon, it roughly the size of the Sportage...

[@BrianJoslyn]

That would be great! But it's not the Sportage. I'd have to see it, at least on the Kia website.

[@SDpapa]

Who would choose the Model X over the EV9? Can't think of one pro going for tesla compared to the Kia. I also heard its a nightmare to repair the wing doors ? Not to mention the cost. My 2005 Sequoia needs to be retired soon and considering a true 3 row EV. Thanks for the review .

[@TheEricdapedo]

Too little 7 seater EVs available atm, Tesla too small for big family, Kia EV9 is more a competitor for Toyota high lander rather than model X. Not the same class. Hope to see more premium players in this area, like BBA & Volvo.

[@francisq4446]

I would rather get thr R1s or lucid gravity

[@mullholand]

It just doesn't make sense for the charging port to be anywhere but the driver's side rear. Driver Front - have to close the door and walk to the front. Passenger side - front or back - have to walk around the car to charge. Driver Read - open door - plug in - done... door can stay open -

[@seabream]

If you have curbside charging, which is more common in some places, you want the port on the curb side. You're usually going there anyway, you don't have to stand in traffic to plug and unplug your car, you aren't pulling the cable across your car's paint (if it's a cable on an overhead retractor), and it's not sticking into traffic where it can catch passing cyclists. Arguably the inconvenience to drivers who don't usually use curbside changing is outweighed by the danger to people who do. You can have a preference, but please don't say that there's no reason why other preferences exist.

[@davidmenasco5743]

​@@seabreamAs things develop, level 2 chargers everywhere, including curbside charging, should become the universal norm.

[@LarryRichelli]

HOAs are the bane of modern day living!

[@ItsKimJava]

You don’t even know the battle we’ve been fighting with solar.

[@andrewpm2]

It's why nobody complains of the neighbor w a project car in the driveway sitting on cyclinder blocks for 6 months or an unseaworthy boat sitting on a trailer w flat tires.

[@davidmenasco5743]

​@@ItsKimJavaRestrictions against solar power should be absolutely prohibited, everywhere. The implications are just so far reaching.

[@JenoFletter]

My simple solution is never live in house that is part of an HOA.

[@LarryRichelli]

@@JenoFletter I wish I have a good choice but I don't at this time

[@cityhue517]

Hey Idol, vinfast VF9 is ready, could you make a road test 🎉

[@wesbishop3790]

You can't go through a car wash if you have the Matte finish. It looks cool but I'd skip it.

[@johnb4183]

KIA ?! Has Elon heard about this...............😮

[@zerola5154]

Hi there. Nice video. So my comment is slightly off topic but on brand for you I think. I noticed you have a Rheem gas water heater (50 gal?) in your garage & wanted to suggest you look into upgrading to an all electric Rheem hybrid water heater. It's a heat pump water heater with two heating elements (hence hybrid) & it's awesome. We have 1 & run it on heat pump only & it kicks butt. It will also cool & dehumidify your garage as it heats your water. FYI we have 3 EVs, 1 kid & I plumb for a living. :) Cheers.

[@packetattack7437]

Lose power, lose hot water. I'm all about electrification but having a gas millivolt system for a water heater has saved me numerous times in bad storms.

[@zerola5154]

@@packetattack7437 backup battery = no problem

[@packetattack7437]

@@zerola5154 Absolutely if you have that. EV9 won't output more than 16 amps/120volts. Electric/hybrid water heaters need quite a big more than that. Waiting for KIA to release a V2G/V2H capability and not just V2L.

[@WardenClyff]

This seems like a fantastic vehicle, but I am highly intrigued to see how it does on the road. Also heated and ventilated rears for 70.k is nice

[@ItsKimJava]

Part 2 coming in the next couple of days dives into that. Thanks for watching!

[@froman1234]

15:13 that is hill decent control (HDC) not to "level out your car"

[@billlowe9417]

Great part 1 video and looking forward to part 2. But if I won’t buy an ICE KIA I’m not buying an EV KIA.

[@ItsKimJava]

Thanks for watching, we appreciate your viewership!

[@Aegisx5]

Kia makes some really nice vehicles. You should reset your opinion of the brand and check one out.

[@davidbeppler3032]

@@Aegisx5 Agreed. Bought a KIA and put 280k miles on it. The car cost only $12k and the fuel cost another $23k! lol

[@Jethr001]

Love your work Kim! seriously, the model X is due for a refresh. We were really close to buying one last year with the big price drop, but decided to wait for the juniper instead. Many people want a High and Tesla to have all the latest tech and gadgets… The model no longer has that. Where is the heads up display or massaging seats or electro tenting glass?

[@rambo4war]

I grade on Software, Hardware……then design. Tesla gets 2 of 3. Kia has a cool design. Dave Ramsey would say avoid both, but if you were going to make a huge financial leap on one of these depreciating beasts…..which one would give you more peace of mind.

[@goldriver-realestate]

Fantastic!

[@DMTHOTH]

As you know legacy car makers know what consumers do out of habit and it is way comfortable.

[@MickMcGuire]

Id that the new eco flow? Will it charge your car?

[@ItsKimJava]

Yes!

[@MickMcGuire]

@@ItsKimJava awesome! I will definitely be upgrading my Eco Flow. Great video too Kia is really getting it

[@geolykos]

That key fob is massive! It’s like a 2nd phone.

[@SuleymanAkhundov]

The good news is that soon all Kia EVs will have the North American charge port thus they will be compatible with the Tesla charge network.

[@omarrivera0108]

Great work!! Super helpful!

[@alexgryn85]

10:33... Right at this moment I thought.. Would a Yoyo fit in there! :D

[@DrEarbuds]

Can Mr Java make a true Weather Channel that tells the truth ?

[@lesjean8530]

Do you know there’s a car with a 710 mile range you don’t have to charge. All you have to do is go to quick trip take 2 minutes to fill up. I just drove it from Atlanta to west palm beach non stop.

[@ejwgamez4264]

Yeah, I end up getting a Tesla because of charging. Too many horror stories with the EV9 charging port and all the third-party charging stations are always broken. Not for me. Tesla has peace of mind.

[@DarrellBeene]

thanks for the info on the ecoflow … i’ll take a look 👍

[@amoreforless]

Front frunk in ev 9 is a complete joke. Sorry Kia , need to bring it.

[@fiehlsport]

Yeah, only the RWD EV9 has a worthwhile frunk. AWD is a joke, it can only hold a charging cable.

[@humanform5354]

@@fiehlsport It's definitely a tiny frunklet. Question is, how often would you need that extra space though?... It's not like you're hauling around an entire family and their stuff every day of the week... Just saying...

[@trstnhn]

I dont understand why people enjoy using frunks. It was a thing in super cars with engines in the rear due to the obvious reason of there being no trunk in the rear. In EVs with trunks, I'd rather use a rear trunk. Front of the car is where it gets the nastiest with all the bug guts splattered everywhere.

[@WordsMatter1982]

​@@trstnhn it's not so much an enjoyment thing. It's more of a "here's some extra dead space we can use, so why do certain car manufacturers cover it up?" I have a Model 3. The frunk can carry some gallons of water, or a carryon bag, or something I want to keep separate from the passenger cabin, but want easier access to than digging through the trunk. It's a convenience feature more than anything else, but it speaks to a manufacturer thinking a bit outside the box.

[@trstnhn]

@@WordsMatter1982 The usage of the word enjoy isn't really talking about enjoyment but rather why people would utilize the frunk to begin with. Like I said, the hood of the car is where all the bug splatters are. If you enjoy touching bug guts that much, be my guest.

[@RozeAbove]

If that wheel is steadfast, how does one access the lug nuts to remove the wheel? I rotate my tires myself on my Model Y, it's just quicker and easier to do it myself because I have the equipment.

[@pinkelephants1421]

Kim, PJ: knowing what you know now about this H.A. if shopping for a house so that you could afford a Tesla again, do you think that you would have avoided choosing a house in a H.A. due to the restrictions that poses? I remember Kim often complaining about the unreasonable restrictions regarding rooftop solar; the head of the H.A. not liking the aesthetics of them is NOT a reasonable excuse for refusal, IMHO. Aesthetics are normally a personal preference and have very little to do with the environment outside of one's personal sphere of influence.

[@ItsKimJava]

the area is nice as is the school district, but yes the HOA restrictions and the severity of those restrictions are something I would've never imagined. Neighbor got in trouble because his raised bed tomato garden was too high in his backyard. 😭

[@pinkelephants1421]

@@ItsKimJava 🤣🤣🤣 Vege garden raised bed too high & in the back garden to boot!!!??? That's ridiculous. Sounds like he has busybody neighbours with nothing better to do, than tattle tale. I've seen videos whereby several couples made beautiful AND immaculate front gardens but because they didn't fit into the 'lawns only' H.A. restriction rules, they were being threatened with legal action by the H.A. How ridiculous is THAT!!!???

[@ixidorstrinity]

Actual concern: if they can't remove those hubcaps, how do the tires get changed/rotated??

[@djplonghead5403]

They can be removed.

[@patrickshanghai2064]

nice landscapes. however, probably EVs are best for daily commute, not doing road trips. at the moment at least.

[@RobK-x3x]

The charge port is on the wrong side --- This is a huge problem

[@30smsuperstrat]

Stay away from the mat finish. Kia does not back the mat finishes with the same warranty. The mat finishes can not be run through a car wash and require specific soap for mat finishes. On the GT, the aero is removable from the wheels. Yes, the government needs to crack down on these crap charging companies that got all kinds of government welfare to put in these charging stations and don't maintain them. There should NEVER be permits for anything but charging stations that can fast charge. Absolutely criminal

[@WayApp]

Exciting comparison!

[@srikrishnathatavarthi889]

Does it have Dog mode or Pet mode?

[@JonathanRootD]

Yes it's called utility mode. Can be enabled in the EV settings menu.

[@davidbeppler3032]

It has crush your little brother mode. Just hit the button and watch the seat do it's thing! Fun!

[@seabream]

@@JonathanRootD I don't know whether it's different in the EV9, but in the Ioniq 6 on the same platform, it doesn't let you lock the car from the outside with utility mode on, and it doesn't have the large message on the display telling potentially concerned passersby that the climate control is running and the pet is at a safe temperature, so it's not really equivalent. Granted, that could be different in the EV9, and it could be changed with a software update even if it isn't. You might be able to do what some people have found success doing with the Ioniq 5, where you can lock the doors from the outside by reaching in through the open driver's window to use the inside switches; pressing the door lock button on the armrest, then activating the window to close and pulling your arm out before it gets caught. That doesn't work so well on the Ioniq 6 because those controls are on the centre console, and people generally can't reach that far.

[@vash01000100]

Everything was good except for not being able to charge full speed at SuperChargers. EA sucks.

[@IsaacGbornor-hfg]

Kia EV 9 is the EV of the year 👍

[@joyfullife9070]

EV9 Design😎😎

[@ronin7645]

I like some of the features, I really do. But my little brain won't allow myself to buy a Kia for $70k. I'll take the X without even thinking about it.

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

Little brain about sums it up.

[@ronin7645]

@@JohnLee-db9zt - Still more brain power than you.

[@seanmartin203]

Go buy the 12 year old car for more money nobody is impressed with the Tesla name . Give the Kia a chance no way to be happy with any Tesla in Southern California yiu will cook yourself with the glass roof

[@ronin7645]

@seanmartin203 - Tint the roof or buy a shade, plenty of shades offered for the roof glass if it bothers you that much. . I'll NEVER pick a Kia over a Tesla. You buy the Kia, I'll take the Tesla.

[@mjs28s]

no pure EV, hybrid only. I'd rather not be forced to rely on a power grid for all my travels.

[@davidmenasco5743]

Sorry to break it to you, but gas stations don't have backup generators. And they don't use solar power. They are completely dependent on the power grid.

[@BioniqBob]

11:45 Plenty of leg room? It looks like the seat in front is straight up. It is roomy, why mess it up?

[@GamingWithJesDep]

Try out the Volvo EX90, exetremely save 3 row SUV.

[@chaseme9860]

2:55 They are removable, otherwise you couldn't change a tire.