Mustang Mach 1 vs BMW M4 - Horse vs Beaver | Everyday Driver Season 9

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@mattguerra82
@mattguerra82 3 жыл бұрын
How fortunate is that when they were discussing their final thoughts we could see the front of the Mustang and the rear of the BMW. Thanks for that
@sikhovski
@sikhovski 2 жыл бұрын
Cause the front is considered ugly?
@caribbeanseas
@caribbeanseas 2 жыл бұрын
@ Matheus Guerra Yea kind of like how I can read you’re comment but dont have to look at your face at the same time
@Kay_Emm_
@Kay_Emm_ 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@WilfredZweverink
@WilfredZweverink 2 жыл бұрын
That wasn't a coincidence..
@mattguerra82
@mattguerra82 2 жыл бұрын
@@caribbeanseas "your"
@williamlong2682
@williamlong2682 2 жыл бұрын
“This BMW M4 feels more like a car for social media than for solitary driving” is the most 2021-auto-industry thing I’ve ever heard. Says a lot about the current state of the new car market. Ever since the new M3/M4 came out, I’ve been trying to ask myself, “what does the grille say in a broader sense about where the auto industry is these days?” I think Todd just answered that question brilliantly.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 2 жыл бұрын
Glad that comment resonated with you! Thanks for watching!
@khunopie9159
@khunopie9159 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Billy for the well crafted comment! Your mom is calling you for dinner!
@jlopez1017d
@jlopez1017d 2 жыл бұрын
They purposely made it ugly to get attention kind of like how clickbait works now. Producers either car or media just want attention whether it’s negative attention or good
@FutureGameLight
@FutureGameLight 2 жыл бұрын
to be fair these aerodynamics are just better than the prior generation even though they look not that good.
@gen1c8rs88
@gen1c8rs88 2 жыл бұрын
@@EverydayDriver Didn't have access to the handling pack Mach 1 ?(dosen't have the handling pack rear spoiler).
@baconmcbacon62
@baconmcbacon62 2 жыл бұрын
I love the staccato thunder of that V8. It’s like The Gods are tearing the fabric of the mountains.
@goesfastandfar
@goesfastandfar 2 жыл бұрын
If they liked the Mach 1 with the auto, they'd have fallen head over heels with the Tremec in it. It totally changes the feel of the car to a better level.
@michaelschwab9563
@michaelschwab9563 2 жыл бұрын
THIS ☝🏻🙏🏻
@RajeshRamsaroop
@RajeshRamsaroop 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree. Plus when you actually think about buying these cars, in this configuration, the Mustang is $40k cheaper. Considering they both give you a phenomenal driving experience, I'd save the money and go for the car that's more fun to drive and look at.
@justinelliott293
@justinelliott293 2 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine buying a Mach 1 without the tremec, thats literally the main selling point IMO but it seems overlooked by most people
@michaelschwab9563
@michaelschwab9563 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinelliott293 Major FACTS ☝🏻
@mikehughes8023
@mikehughes8023 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinelliott293 I thought the fighter jet grey color only came in a manual 😕.
@BrendanEvan
@BrendanEvan 3 жыл бұрын
Mach 1 is so nice looking and it sounds much better IMO too!
@cherry1le
@cherry1le 2 жыл бұрын
Looks even better with the bigger rear spoiler with the gurney flap, absolute perfection
@jwanilpatel3223
@jwanilpatel3223 9 ай бұрын
Looks like shit from inside ...like a 20k car
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 4 ай бұрын
Mach 1 looks like every other mustang on the road. M4 looks new and it shits on the mustang in every single perfromace metric u can do. While having an actual luxury interior and better tech. No brainer
@freshtowels3917
@freshtowels3917 2 жыл бұрын
Mach 1 for me. The sound alone of the Mustang has me sold.
@aperson5062
@aperson5062 3 жыл бұрын
"Amazed more than engaged". Great line. That is why I traded an Audi S4 for a Miata.
@MCoupeMike
@MCoupeMike 2 жыл бұрын
bingo! you get it!
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 2 жыл бұрын
That's why on a test ride that I realized the BMW M240i was the best drivers car imaginable imo! Not to mention extremely fast 4.2 seconds or better to 60 mph! I also did a test ride in the S3 and S4, and neither were even close to the Beemer! The Miata leaves a lot to be desired from a performance standpoint, but it's a fun little car from what I hear! My point was try a proper BMW and like myself you will be blown away with an M2 competition, M240i, and I'm sure other M cars! Don't give up on the Germans just the brand Audi lol!✌
@DxModel219
@DxModel219 2 жыл бұрын
@@germanengineering204 M2 is a great car. the miata or porsche boxster is too.
@whata86
@whata86 2 жыл бұрын
@@germanengineering204 bmw is a great riding vehicle . Arnt you worried about the reliability though?
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 2 жыл бұрын
@@whata86 Not to much the 2 series in general is considered reliable! The B58 engine in particular is the best inline turbo 6 BMW ever created according to the experts! It's under warranty for a long time still, so not overly concerned at this point! I have 14k on it already, and I don't baby it with no troubles so far. I pray it stays reliable because the car is incredible to drive, and extremely fast!✌
@kylefarlow
@kylefarlow 2 жыл бұрын
The inflation sticker shock gets pretty real when you realize that you could have purchased a GT350 in 2019 or 2020 for the same price they're now asking for a Mach 1 in 2021.
@hogsrmylifetbj
@hogsrmylifetbj 8 ай бұрын
Even crazier that they’re asking 100k for the Mbeaver.
@dannyhoward3437
@dannyhoward3437 3 ай бұрын
And the Mach 1 depreciates at the same rate as the GT, dropping like a stone.
@lyndahammel9502
@lyndahammel9502 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very informative video. I'm Mustang all the way. I was a teenager when the first Mustang was introduced at the World Fair. I've loved the Mustang since then. My first new car and daily driver for 12 years was a Mustang. Now my retirement car is a Ruby Red Mustang. It's just fun to drive.
@airbomb34
@airbomb34 2 жыл бұрын
s550's are great daily drivers.
@jeffthornock8671
@jeffthornock8671 Жыл бұрын
And it still looks the same as it did when introduced. Lol
@MongoMotors352
@MongoMotors352 3 жыл бұрын
Considering the difference in price between the The beaver and the horse, you really should’ve chosen a GT 500 as a comparison car. At that point they would be the same price and yet it’s still basically below the skin a horse.
@gabevsouza
@gabevsouza 2 жыл бұрын
Really great piece as always. Thoroughly enjoyed the sound mix. Panning the Mustang’s exhaust note from left to right in my headphones was perfect.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you noticed. Thanks for watching!
@traxiii
@traxiii 2 жыл бұрын
It's such a shame you couldn't get a Mach1 with the Handling Pack and 6 Speed. I hope you guys get a chance to take another look, with a Mach1 so equipped.
@kevinbreese5739
@kevinbreese5739 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are forgetting a Loaded GT can cost $56k. The Mach 1 actually isn't all that much more when you compare them equally in terms of options. Remember the Mach 1 premium comes loaded. And then you get all those extra's with the Mach 1, like different suspension, wheels, tires, better exhaust, nicer looking rear and front fascia, the Tremec, etc. It's too bad you didn't get the Handling Package car. That's the one to buy and it looks awesome.
@MrMashman93
@MrMashman93 Жыл бұрын
That handling package is what makes it different from the GT.
@Bebopin-69
@Bebopin-69 3 ай бұрын
@@MrMashman93and the tremec
@dp2901
@dp2901 3 жыл бұрын
Ford is on a roll these days. Can’t wait to see the Bronco in real life. Hope you guys can compare it to its competitors.
@jpolimus
@jpolimus 2 жыл бұрын
Saw a white one yesterday in Leesburg Georgia. It’s beautiful. I’m currently in the market for a Jeep but I may hold another year or two. It’s that good
@randellgribben9772
@randellgribben9772 2 жыл бұрын
yes, but they did one stupid move,, they killed of the fusion..i have a 2014 fusion 2.0 ecoboost engine ( the better spanjsh engine ) se w/lux package and 235/45/19 wheels and tires..ans some othere mods..and i can roast most 3 tpes on the roads with it..hy1 between sasulito and stinson beach.. one was in front of me,, and pulled away..so he wants to play????? so i stuff mine into sports mode.. now only using paddle shift.. and after a few miles.. he gave up and pulled to a turnout.. and started chasing me.. after a few corners,, he started to fall behind....never got above 3rd gear. paddle shift...6 speed auto... my g/f told me when we stopped at stinson beach.. that see saw 2 or 3 orange warning light flikker on and off.. i asked her to show me the location of the orange lights... they were my traction/ stability control and my abs lamps.. was pushing my car pretty hard to make those show up..dont know about the bmw driver..i looked around for the car. after we parked..did not find it
@wrighterjfly
@wrighterjfly 2 жыл бұрын
Well don't get your hopes up the Ford Bronco is a mess, just look under the hood and decide for yourself. I was excited but after seeing one for myself, dissapointment is an understatement.
@CoyoteFTW
@CoyoteFTW 2 жыл бұрын
@@wrighterjfly - disappointing in what way? The best looking car that has come out in the last 10 yrs. What’s under the hood that’s a mess?? That Ecoboost engine is great. All I’m hearing is I’m a fanboy of another manufacturer and am hating on Ford and the bronco for no reason.
@dp2901
@dp2901 2 жыл бұрын
@@wrighterjfly The actual Bronco or the Bronco Sport? I've only seen the Sport and it's just too much of a Subaru for me.
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 3 жыл бұрын
I think the BMW grill looks much better in person than it does watching it on video, but that is just me
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 3 жыл бұрын
I was really, really wrong about this! That said, I do respect people who don't like it...I get it😇
@Atomb
@Atomb 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that in person it's not fully hideous, but it's still not great.
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 2 жыл бұрын
@@Atomb not refuting what you said but let me ask you this...what worse looking, the front of this M4 or the rear of the C8🤔
@Atomb
@Atomb 2 жыл бұрын
@@klasseact6663 God. Perfect question. I don't know! I wish the C8 rear was better, but the front of the M4 is so bad that I wonder how it ever went into production. So, I'll go M4.
@taylorhickman84
@taylorhickman84 2 жыл бұрын
if the car was black it would remind me of darth vader, but not in a good way.
@EdwinAaronSaenz
@EdwinAaronSaenz 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao they put the M4's back at the end next to the Mustang's front
@johnnymula2305
@johnnymula2305 3 жыл бұрын
I would take the Mach l over the BMW any day. Looks feel, and that beautiful V8 sound!
@85corolla
@85corolla 11 ай бұрын
As me being a huge oldschool bmw enthusiast, I agree with you!
@johnnymula2305
@johnnymula2305 11 ай бұрын
@@85corolla im an old school BMW enthusiast as well. E9 being my all time favorite. Im currently driving an 09 e88. Lots of mods. Love it!
@85corolla
@85corolla 11 ай бұрын
@@johnnymula2305 Oh nice!, If I could go back in time, e9 would be on my top 5 list to buy. I currently own an e30m3 and a 190e 2.3-16 euro specs. I once had a w124 500e, but regrettably sold it...ugh.
@brucetumblinjr7980
@brucetumblinjr7980 2 жыл бұрын
Two of my favorite cars, I’m going to end up with one of them next year in 2022; it’s looking like Mach 1 Premium with Handling & Elite package, no back seats (TREMEC of course)
@goesfastandfar
@goesfastandfar 2 жыл бұрын
You're gonna love it, especially with the Tremec. It's the only way to really enjoy the Mach 1. And the sound of the Coyote.......
@ZFA1738
@ZFA1738 2 жыл бұрын
I want to swap a t56 in my s550 gt. Wish Ford didn’t use cheap mt-82 for the gt.
@brucetumblinjr7980
@brucetumblinjr7980 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZFA1738 if Ford made the TR-3160 at least optional on the regular 5.0 GT I would get a regular GT
@LegendInThaMakin
@LegendInThaMakin 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta go with the m4, the great driving dynamics accompanied with that glorious v8 of the mustang is tempting but that interior isn’t something I can forgive. The m4 is just a more complete car, checks every box and still offers the 6mt. Never cared what others said about the beaver front, I don’t mind it. Actually kinda like it.
@avatarquinn
@avatarquinn 2 жыл бұрын
@@LegendInThaMakin yeah but at $100k for the M4 you can get Audi R8 or Nissan GTR, and a bunch of others I would take over a BMW.
@turbopickle9720
@turbopickle9720 2 жыл бұрын
To many mustangs on the road, they don’t have that special feeling or appeal in my opinion.
@TrojanRabbit521
@TrojanRabbit521 2 жыл бұрын
That BMW grill is a nightmare as soon as it’s in view causes a literal shake of my head. Trying to clear my eyes, I guess. Also BMW give us steering feel, please! So the ‘Stang has to be my choice.
@lookahere
@lookahere 2 жыл бұрын
It is absolutely hideous. I recently went to my local BMW dealer to keep my wife company while her vehicle was getting serviced. One of the salesmen attempted to get me trade my 2020 Mustang GT for one of their BMW's with that horrible front end design. I told him that not only would I never trade for any of those but they would have to literally give me one of those monstrosities for free and then would still owe me at least a couple of grand for all the pain and suffering from having to look at that design mistake every day. Sheesh.
@gmain1977
@gmain1977 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, would take the Mustang all day , less money better looking, more fun and better sound
@CALISPEC1
@CALISPEC1 2 жыл бұрын
I may be the only person to feel this way but I love the g80/g82 front end. I hated it at first much like I hated the 2018+ mustang front end but like the mustang the bmw has really grown on me, to the point that I much prefer the “beaver” front end over all other cars right now. I currently own a 2020 401a, 6 speed mustang with the performance pack and adaptive suspension and it’s great…. But I would love to have a g80 M3 manual in IOMG!
@josephsartori523
@josephsartori523 2 жыл бұрын
I love the old school tech that the mustang gives. It’s give enough tech to enjoy it but still more mechanical like how sports car should be.
@joelness
@joelness 3 жыл бұрын
0:50 "Was one of these manufacturers looking at the other one?" Well... have you seen the 8 Series coupe? BMW's definitely been looking at the Mustang.
@noorkashif9107
@noorkashif9107 2 жыл бұрын
yeah still a better car than anything mustang puts out tho
@fabioribeiro1009
@fabioribeiro1009 2 жыл бұрын
@@noorkashif9107 there is no bmw better than a gt350r.
@Trendyflute
@Trendyflute 2 жыл бұрын
Todd nailed it about the BMW: it's a car made for social media presentation first. BMW marketing has been running amok for years.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 2 жыл бұрын
Glad that resonated with you. Thanks for watching!
@beatleboy305
@beatleboy305 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll take the Mach 1 over the BMW. The BMW is only for status.
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 4 ай бұрын
Status? The m4 is the better perfromance car in every way imaginable when it comes to power and handling. Has actual luxury interior and better tech.
@tanveerkhalili5268
@tanveerkhalili5268 Ай бұрын
Cause your American lol
@mikezerker6925
@mikezerker6925 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Your production quality and filming locations are absolutely amazing! Can't get over the beaver, and for that price, I'll stick with the Mustang (can almost get 2 for the price of 1 [ugly] M4)
@bmwloco
@bmwloco 2 жыл бұрын
Air cooled Porsche pilot from days past. My 912 Targa was sublime. I knew were the tires were at all times, it was light, and the wail of that flat four. And then I found motorcycles. I'm all better now.
@airbomb34
@airbomb34 2 жыл бұрын
The S550's are awesome. Love my ecoboost. Mustang is the best HP for the money and they make great daily drivers.
@mitamiyaguyrc7825
@mitamiyaguyrc7825 2 жыл бұрын
All I could think was Beaver teeth after you said that... 60k vs 100k is also a big deal for me. The Mustang needs a manual though.
@jayjaylucky3278
@jayjaylucky3278 2 жыл бұрын
Mach 1 is the Best for me (good for my pocket) I love Mustang
@mebeingU2
@mebeingU2 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review of two great cars! The only thing that would have made it better is if you both ended the video crawling into those oversized doors that BMW calls a grill.
@CALISPEC1
@CALISPEC1 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a Mustang guy but that M4 looks amazing (and the M3 is even better), I personally love the new front end, it looks so aggressive.
@joshuabergeman354
@joshuabergeman354 Жыл бұрын
It’s good to see that I’m not the only one that thinks that front end on the M4 looks amazing! It reminds me of the nostrils of a thoroughbred racing horse
@bookaloo
@bookaloo 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know about everyone else, but I'm just waiting for the Mach 1 handling pack, track tests. Ford seems to be blocking that
@andreasbeaufort3594
@andreasbeaufort3594 Жыл бұрын
Since I first heard you say "the beaver teeth", I simply can't look at a BMW and not die laughing! Best definition to a design feature EVER! By the way, thanks for another excellent video, guys!
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. And we’re quite proud to hear “Beaver Teeth” anywhere it catches on! Thanks for watching!
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 8 ай бұрын
​@@EverydayDriverwhy are the new m3 and m4 selling triple the amount of cars then the old m3 and m4. Check bmw sales stats. Looks like ur opinion is just that. An opinion
@frankdaelemans4488
@frankdaelemans4488 2 жыл бұрын
Both are brilliant cars, each with their plusses and minuses. The M4 has more class and a much nicer interior (the mustang's interior has a bit of a cheap look to me). I actually like that front end. It has significantly grown on me and looks very nice in reality. On the other hand, that mustang V8 sound just can't be beat. The mustang also oozes that raw muscle car spirit. It looks like it's going fast, even when parked. If I had to pick one I'd probably pick the M4. If I had enough money I think I would save myself the trouble of choosing and just buy both. Great job, Ford and BMW.
@scottanthony3426
@scottanthony3426 2 жыл бұрын
For a 40K extra over the Mustang, I'd expect the interior to be a lot nicer. Nobody seems to be talking about the cost difference here. For 100k one could have the Mach 1 and a nice medium size SUV to drive when the weather sucks or you want to haul the family to the beach for the weekend.
@user-yi9hz3or2t
@user-yi9hz3or2t Жыл бұрын
@@scottanthony3426base is 51 for the mach 1 and 72 for the m4 and a better interior and a faster car is worth the 20k imo
@MrBolorzaya
@MrBolorzaya 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is my chill out zone.
@trwsandford
@trwsandford 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a bit of a BMW fan boy, but yeah the Mach 1…. Best Mustang since 1969.
@trwsandford
@trwsandford 3 жыл бұрын
Outdoor Layne the Mach 1 is also a stick. They just couldn’t get one for the review, because that’s what everyone is buying.
@SicSemperBeats
@SicSemperBeats 3 жыл бұрын
@@layne4376 idk man voodoo engine seems almost unreliable with the timing chain issues that can grenade the entire engine.
@chadclark2684
@chadclark2684 2 жыл бұрын
The accessory light panels pop right out for full airflow just FYI
@bwxmoto
@bwxmoto 2 жыл бұрын
First time I saw the M4 front end I laughed and puked a little at the same time. Not sure when but over time and the more I saw it, the cooler it looked to me. It's pretty in your face but it has some nice lines. I think on a darker colored car it would be pretty nice. Looks modern at least.
@videomaniac108
@videomaniac108 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, I agree with the judgement on the Beemer's weirdly shaped radiator grille. If I were going to spend $60K on a pony car it would be the GT 350. The automatic on the Mach 1 is sacrilegious.
@DS-pk4eh
@DS-pk4eh 2 жыл бұрын
I am BMW fan, but I would take that Mach 1. Saw it in real, it is gorgeous. And that engine sounds as beautiful. Just great car. Not to mention, BMW costs some 40K more.I could buy Tesla Model 3 for that money. As my second car. ;-)
@limpunsing224
@limpunsing224 2 жыл бұрын
The Mach 1 is more compelling for me with its m/t & n/a V8 compared to M4 higher price, a/t & hideous grille Top-notch comparison review
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@ceooflovingthehomies9294
@ceooflovingthehomies9294 Жыл бұрын
@Karol Szymon Wiśniewski I watched this test. Something was wrong with that car running 13s. I’ve hit mid 12s on the street in my 10 speed mustang gt stock (and they can kiss 11s on a prepped surface)
@davidwolf6276
@davidwolf6276 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be happy as heck with this Mach 1! Yes, it does lack some of the amenities of the M4 but is 40K less. No, I wouldn't be settling, I'd be reliving my youth when I had a '72 Mach 1.
@porkchopsandwiches8363
@porkchopsandwiches8363 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck getting one, the ordering process is brutal for the Mach 1
@padredave53
@padredave53 2 жыл бұрын
Great segment, gentlemen, I choose the Mustang too….that sound, needs a 6 speed manual and the seats from the BMW.
@iC3mdbN
@iC3mdbN 3 жыл бұрын
Look up Prior Design, they did a fairly nice looking front bumper for the M4. But i actually think the M4 look is not that bad.
@jaromor8808
@jaromor8808 3 жыл бұрын
no, it actually is that bad
@Veka550M
@Veka550M 3 жыл бұрын
Black M4/M3 looks good IMO, black hides the grille.
@brunov.7411
@brunov.7411 2 жыл бұрын
Stradale Design has come up with a new replacement front bumper for the M3/M4 also.
@saviordream
@saviordream 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyable episode, guys! Hopefully you'll get the issues with Amazon sorted out so we can buy the entire season (since I no longer have a cable or satellite subscription to watch these when they first air).
@bardstables8909
@bardstables8909 2 жыл бұрын
I am a BMW fan. I'm also a Mustang fan. A year ago I opted for the mustang over the BMW based on a lot of the points you both bring up. Instead of going Shelby though I chose a GT and am modifying it to my wants and needs. Plus that way I save on insurance too. It was more important to me to take that money and spend it wisely that too pay for the Shelby name and an insurance hike. And boy is it fun to drive!
@ChrisPyle
@ChrisPyle 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my first mustang GT at 15 years old. Watched in horror back in 94 as the Fox body and 5.0 got replaced with a sohc 4.6….Then I saw a glimmer of hope with the 03-04 “terminator” cobra, was excited in 2011 about the coyote 5.0L and am thrilled at where the Mustangs are now. Well done Ford!
@chuckystang
@chuckystang 2 жыл бұрын
Said it before and I'll say it again, that M4 front end rocks, looks great!
@mardamek
@mardamek 2 жыл бұрын
Todd's comment about another one's spouse was hilarious and spot on. Even if the video and the cars were not so good, that comment alone would get a thumbs up.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed - thank you for watching!
@Kelvinjan
@Kelvinjan 2 жыл бұрын
I get the comparison based on size and performance, but realistically, someone shopping for a M4 is not going to be cross shopping a Mustang Mach 1.
@isserdigan2835
@isserdigan2835 2 жыл бұрын
The grille is much pronounced in non dark colors. It looks ok on black/gray or dark blue colors.
@goguhu
@goguhu 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, it looks fine in dark colors. However as with everything conservative people don't like change, but give them a few years and they want the current, hate the present and hate the future :)
@patricsteele
@patricsteele 3 жыл бұрын
Although the GT350 engine brings it's own unique excitement;It would've been interesting to see how much specialness and fun could've been regained in other areas if the track pack spec+the manual with speed shifting were to be tested.Also, does the the earlier torque delivery of the Mach 1allow you to short shift so you have more fun opportunity to row through the gears on backroads vs GT350? Thx!
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 2 жыл бұрын
The GT350 engines are pure garbage, they don't hold up for what they're designed for😔
@patricsteele
@patricsteele 2 жыл бұрын
@@klasseact6663 Yes I've noticed a number of GT350 owners speaking of reliability issues with the motor over time.
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 2 жыл бұрын
@@patricsteele I have 2 friends that both had those cars and both had to lemon law there vehicles because of this😔
@curaco678
@curaco678 2 жыл бұрын
@@klasseact6663 it amazing how the squeaky wheel always get the attention! Absolutely zero problems with the engine, burns zero oil and I take it as a point of pride to beat the snot out of her every single time I drive her! It is too bad that the absolute minority of owners actually "know" this guy with engine problems, lemon by backs, ect. It's like a damn Bigfoot sighting! Bottom line is that it is completely disingenuous to brand a motor as garbage when this motor/transmission combo is what makes this car so damn special. Allow the engine to get to operating temperature, until then, keep the revs low. After that, use the entire RPM range and go full send every chance you can. Don't baby it... drive the damn car and you will always get that smiles per miles we all brag about. 2 bus loads of people complaining about their blown engine experience pales in comparison to the area full of people that can't say enough on how great this car is.
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 2 жыл бұрын
@@curaco678 I am basing my opinion on 2 friends who are experienced track guys know how to take care of the car know how to drive. I agree with you 100% that the engine is what makes the car great and it is far superior to the other products but unfortunately due to the size of the engine the flat plane crank has bad if plain crank has bad vibration problems.
@hendersonjohnson3750
@hendersonjohnson3750 Жыл бұрын
SPORT PLUS MODE give you aggressive shifting and rev matching.
@waldopburciagajr4399
@waldopburciagajr4399 4 ай бұрын
I have 2023 Mach1, and I love it .
@zipzap4706
@zipzap4706 2 жыл бұрын
"Drift Coach"...lol. I'll stick with my FJ Gray Mach 1 Handling Pack 6 spd, thank you very much :)
@Intrepid175a
@Intrepid175a 2 жыл бұрын
You are right that the Mustang isn't a car that one buys for fuel economy but I have to say, I drove a 2016 GT convertible with MT for four years and was able to make several multi day road trips with it and I have to say, I was very pleased with the fuel economy I got out of that car. It was EPA'd at 25 mpg highway but I averaged between 27 and 27.5 mpg on the road. Not bad at all for a V8 powered car.
@hpkntnw
@hpkntnw 2 жыл бұрын
9:02 it should only come as a 6 speed. It has auto rev matching, no lift shift and throttle assist so it’s almost impossible to stall it. I’m watching reviews until spring as there’s now salt on the roads and mine won’t see the road until April or so.
@MuahMan
@MuahMan 2 жыл бұрын
Why did they give the M4 an SUV front/grille? Rest of it looks SWEET! BMW is probably a better car, at least for the first 20,000 miles but I bet the Mustang is more fun.
@zoothief
@zoothief 2 жыл бұрын
Love the show... Opening credits... You dont need that. We know who y'all are.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 2 жыл бұрын
You’d be surprised… we always are… there are comments on every video that say “first thing I’ve ever seen from you guys…”. Lots of people out there that don’t seem to know who we are or the range of what we do. Thank you very much for knowing and being with us!
@Enthusiast_detailing
@Enthusiast_detailing 3 жыл бұрын
I never clicked on anything so fast!
@warikplaya
@warikplaya 2 жыл бұрын
The Mach 1 is pretty cool, but, as mentioned in the video, it costs almost the same as the gt350 did. And it’s not nearly as cool, so would be hard for me personally to buy it knowing that.
@deni8814
@deni8814 3 жыл бұрын
Not everyone wants a manual, I prefer that 10 speed, its faster and i dont have to shift
@marlonelmorefreedomisoursn9744
@marlonelmorefreedomisoursn9744 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone gets it when you get a muscle car you do not care about the fuel economy care about the performance and the handling
@bbuny10
@bbuny10 2 жыл бұрын
I actually love the Kidney XL grills. Even I know people will think they are ugly. Maybe they will age well Maybe I can look forward to a super cheap used one :)
@eLKaymusic
@eLKaymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Lexus RCF may be another alternative. I'd prefer the BMW in the M3 sedan format myself as a family man. North American buyers have more options with the Cadillac Blackwings for manual transmissions. Great content guys. Ultimately, a Kia Stinger GT was my personal choice for what my budget would allow.
@PresidentEvil
@PresidentEvil 2 жыл бұрын
the problem is nobody cares about Lexus
@buddy8412
@buddy8412 Жыл бұрын
10seconds in, Love that these are compared. But that title though.. challenging too 😅
@darkchild130
@darkchild130 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda like the front end on the M4. I’d rather have the Mustang though.
@2loco
@2loco 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I never thought I'd say this, but the goofy grille on the M4 is growing on me. I actually like it. Lol 😅
@Z06C5
@Z06C5 2 жыл бұрын
The build quality and engineering on the bmw is above and beyond the mustang. Any 15 year old Ford has the clear coat peeling off,crap paint jobs. I am a Ford F-150 owner
@dominiczanella8443
@dominiczanella8443 2 жыл бұрын
For 40k, I think I could get a paint job and make the car much faster than the Beamer
@carrier7676
@carrier7676 2 жыл бұрын
As a lifelong BMW fan... that god AWEFUL front end on the BMW M4 completely ruins my desire to EVER get one!
@BrakRulesAll
@BrakRulesAll 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling Todd would have preferred an M2 Competition over the M4 - maybe still not over the Mustang, but above the M4, based on his comments. And it's a better comparison because the cost is the same - you couldn't spend $100k on an M2c (when they were still available). It's a smaller, more visceral, less luxurious version of the M4, and it all works so well at a much easier to swallow price.
@jonathandiperna3706
@jonathandiperna3706 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s go Brandon.
@senseicorey9979
@senseicorey9979 3 жыл бұрын
Let's go
@MikeKonkle
@MikeKonkle 2 жыл бұрын
Getting old....
@senseicorey9979
@senseicorey9979 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeKonkle it's going to get A LOT worse than this
@trustyshellback4724
@trustyshellback4724 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeKonkle Well you ain't heard nothing yet! Wait 'till they chant it at the Super Bowl! hahahaha
@hpkntnw
@hpkntnw 2 жыл бұрын
2:09 if you pop out some rivets from the radiator cover you pop it off and then pop out the left side “fog” light cover it is an air intake. It’s basically a factory ram air giving you a few extra horsepower.
@dr.jasonfielding9667
@dr.jasonfielding9667 3 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! I am in the minority in that I like the looks of the new M4. The old grille looks too small and very dated now, especially when Audis and Mercedes have large grilles as well. I’m surprised that neither of you really harped on how bad the automatic transmission is in the BMW when compared to the previous dual clutch manual transmissions. So much less racy of an experience, I like the hard shifting of dual clutch manual transmissions.
@warboyrb
@warboyrb Жыл бұрын
Paul, you must be ecstatic now with Ford leaving heritage behind a little bit and creating the Dark Horse for the MY2024. That twin throttle bodies gen4 Coyote putting 500bhp is gonna be a legendary motor.
@richardmahoney9415
@richardmahoney9415 2 жыл бұрын
🔥 🔥 🔥 no words needed love all your reviews
@_M3NACE_
@_M3NACE_ 3 жыл бұрын
New M2 for the win
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, M2 or the Supra. Also can't help but think $60,000 gets you a Corvette.
@gian-lucbrasseur207
@gian-lucbrasseur207 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the mach 1 handling package compared in this same format.
@AruaBakayaro
@AruaBakayaro 3 жыл бұрын
I'll take the Mustang. I cannot stand that front grill design of the M4.
@chaddaniel-f8k
@chaddaniel-f8k Жыл бұрын
When you actually load up a regular GT Premium Mustang with Magna Ride and all the goodies, you're approaching $60k, but are stuck with the less than desirable Getrag 6-speed (if you want a manual instead of the pretty good 10-speed auto). For a few extra thousand dollars, buying the Mach 1 and getting the Tremec 6-speed (and all the other GT-350/GT-500 goodies) is an absolute no brainer.
@craigyBow
@craigyBow 2 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant informative video. I think it was a great comparison. I didn't realise the similarities until I seen them both in side profile...I always enjoy the amazing camera work on these shoots, would be nice if you guys gave a shout out to your colleagues on the videos? But possibly you have done this on the podcast and I missed it? Anyway, loving your work!
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed this. There are only 4 of us making these episodes. Paul and Todd, joined by Chance and Edgar who are mentioned on the podcast and sometimes seen on camera. All four of us do trade off doing everything for filming and edit and are in the end credits. Thanks for watching!
@craigyBow
@craigyBow 2 жыл бұрын
@@EverydayDriver ah I see thanks for the info. You guys make a great team! 👍
@ZZ-ed6wp
@ZZ-ed6wp 4 ай бұрын
You should really do a manual Mach 1 handling pack vs m competition test including some track time 🔥
@Lndmk227
@Lndmk227 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I understand the "value" proposition of the Mustang, surely it wouldn't be too much to ask for them to take some stick-on leather or vinyl to dress up the interior just a bit. A few more pieces of aluminum trim wouldn't go unnoticed.
@valentinorossi7771
@valentinorossi7771 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, 40 grand difference in price and that makes the Mustang the winner by a county mile. Yes it is not as good as the M4 but for what Ford produces at that price you've got to declare the Ford as the winner.
@vise5224
@vise5224 2 жыл бұрын
That makes it better value. Not the winner. Use a dictionary and understand the meaning of words. Winning is when you beat it in majority of the categories. And these American cars have shitty quality n worse reliability them even the Germans. I'm not even talking about the expensive ford's but even the cheap ones. But for VALUE yes the Mustang is hard to beat. If the BMW is the latest iPhone then the mustang is a redmi phone
@pettersaethre
@pettersaethre 2 жыл бұрын
@@vise5224 bmw easily beat the mach on value with the 540i
@valentinorossi7771
@valentinorossi7771 2 жыл бұрын
@@vise5224 Ford could have - easily - built a BMW beater but chose to stick to a price point to appeal to the wider cross section of buyer.. It is a winner. It costs BMW so much to produce a car which Ford could match with a much lower price. Shit quality may be what your county produces. Most cop cars are Ford. If they were unreliable then they would not have been purchased.
@benedict6027
@benedict6027 2 жыл бұрын
So much truths spoken. And those = signs confusing everybody
@RNMAutomotiveAddiction
@RNMAutomotiveAddiction 2 жыл бұрын
Great review - Todd captured it well with thoughts on M4. I wish you guys can do a review with F8x DCT Comp version vs the new G8x Auto - I believe the loss of the DCT is a huge negative along with the hideous styling.
@robertwhitey6621
@robertwhitey6621 2 жыл бұрын
Back in 2003 when I bought my Mach 1 the M4 was our stiffest competition needless to say they could not hang with the Mach 1 on the dragway. On the street from a roll the M 4’s we’re tough to hang with.
@dannypadilla7136
@dannypadilla7136 2 жыл бұрын
I love how when BMW harness back to its roots, it's "not a BMW" rookies!
@JH-rk9gd
@JH-rk9gd Жыл бұрын
A friend bought a BMW M5, 3 year warranty and it was almost $150,000.00 out the door. Warrant ran out after 3 years started to cost money and he got a $63,500.00 trade-in, he said its only money
@camcorp
@camcorp 2 жыл бұрын
Human interaction sight and sound ...the Mach 1 is glorious. It brings out the bad boy in you. PLUS you needed a 4 speed
@rwac07
@rwac07 2 жыл бұрын
The specs on paper add up but in the real world the M4 is much much quicker (expected given the price difference), the S58 is an insane tuning platform
@predatorshelby5780
@predatorshelby5780 2 жыл бұрын
By "Much quicker" do you mean .2 seconds in the quarter mile from a 30 roll quicker. Also has less braking power, less lateral Gs and ugly as hell. For a 20-30k difference this isn't even close as to which is better.
@rwac07
@rwac07 2 жыл бұрын
@@predatorshelby5780 The difference in speed is night and day. The DCT runs easy 11's all day with the xDrive versions recording low 11's which the Mustang doesn't come close to (with much lower trap speeds). And an ///M car isn't intended to be a value car like a Mustang - its a BMW so it is going to be pricier but you're getting BMW's build quality not Ford's. Sure the Mustang looks much better and is better value but its not the better performing car, its not even close.
@ceooflovingthehomies9294
@ceooflovingthehomies9294 Жыл бұрын
But the engine is way less fun.
@tommygeary1931
@tommygeary1931 2 жыл бұрын
Were the aerial shots filmed at 24fps? because the judder is insane...
@anoniem9518
@anoniem9518 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the front of the to BMW. It is different, it is aggressive, it refers to the past. It really grew on me.
@larryfishkind5387
@larryfishkind5387 2 жыл бұрын
A couple times from certain angles on the front of the bmw looks very similar to the Alfa Romeo guilia. Great content ! Awesome cars !
@itsalgud1459
@itsalgud1459 2 жыл бұрын
This is really an excellent description of both cars, very detailed and complete. As a long time lover of BMWs since the days of the 2002, I have to say they’ve really uglified this new model. If I bought one I’d have to park it every single time in such a way as when I came back to get it I would come from the back end of it and never have to look at the front end. From your descriptions I have to say the BMW doesn’t sound all that exciting. One big factor that you barely mentioned is the sound. There is absolutely no comparison whatsoever in the sound. If I imagine myself canyon carving in Colorado, no matter how well the BMW handles it would seem mundane. Definitely not so in the mustang. I hate to say it but between the two I would have to go with the Mustang.
@hpkntnw
@hpkntnw 2 жыл бұрын
2:10 the left one is an air intake. It takes about 5 minutes to pop it out and it’s a direct path to the air box.
@josiahthibodeaux
@josiahthibodeaux 2 жыл бұрын
That spouse analogy was spot on.
@rogerwolfe7302
@rogerwolfe7302 2 жыл бұрын
The 10r80 is a absolutely great trans for drag racing. I didn't buy it for rev matching bs but for great acceleration.
@bthor5397
@bthor5397 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Can’t wait to see Paul redesign the M4!
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