FRS (GT86, BRZ) vs RX8 vs S2000 Review - Everyday Driver

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@asdfjrkytklut
@asdfjrkytklut 9 жыл бұрын
i hate convertibles. but the s2000 is one of those cars that will make me buy a convertible
@cbwalker8
@cbwalker8 6 жыл бұрын
ja ji same!
@gameofdrones773
@gameofdrones773 6 жыл бұрын
ja ji they look better with the detachable hard top, just like the mx5
@andrewkahler9359
@andrewkahler9359 6 жыл бұрын
@@gameofdrones773 Hahaha you literally took the comment i was gonna post
@ninjaboy5674
@ninjaboy5674 6 жыл бұрын
Same here
@yado7550
@yado7550 5 жыл бұрын
i feel the exact same way. I hate convertibles but damn the s2000 and the mx5 sound like really nice cars to drive
@Xmvw2X
@Xmvw2X 9 жыл бұрын
I've driven all 3. The Honda is a niche car, great engine, tight feel, and set up for sport. It's not as good a daily as the others, but competent racing. The S2000 is a car you race. The FRS/BRZ is technically excellent. The balance is outstanding, very easy to drive at the edge, and ergonomics are great. It's a car you can hustle really easy. The RX8 is a softer car but still highly competent. The RX8 is the most practical car as it can actually seat 4 adults...comfortably. The RX8 feels more premium. The engine is smoother, the ride is smoother, and the cabin is quieter. I now own a RX8
@robsonrissotrainer
@robsonrissotrainer 9 жыл бұрын
I own a rx8 now too, I had a Honda 2000 and I can tell, rx8 is much better and feels great driving
@jedalaoui5581
@jedalaoui5581 8 жыл бұрын
+Xmvw2X i'm buying a 2009 rx8 in a month... I'm both very excited about it, and scared for the engine reliability...
@robsonrissotrainer
@robsonrissotrainer 8 жыл бұрын
Jed Alaoui there is no issues with this engine if you give the best lubrication
@jedalaoui5581
@jedalaoui5581 8 жыл бұрын
i will, but what about the previous owners... that's my concern
@robsonrissotrainer
@robsonrissotrainer 8 жыл бұрын
Take it to a shop and ask for a compression test, if it's all good just get the machine
@cominacatcha
@cominacatcha 10 жыл бұрын
Dear honda, please make fun FR cars like the s2000 again. It's just really missed.
@XxLoveThe69xX
@XxLoveThe69xX 9 жыл бұрын
cominacatcha Acura.
@cominacatcha
@cominacatcha 9 жыл бұрын
Tyrion Lannister Well, technically they're the same.
@ericsens4070
@ericsens4070 6 жыл бұрын
Pls
@benjaminreed6652
@benjaminreed6652 6 жыл бұрын
Technically the s2000 is fmr: front mid-mounted rwd.
@maybelive765
@maybelive765 6 жыл бұрын
cominacatcha dear Mazda, please make another rotary FMR sports car that properly succeeds the FD, and an update to the RX8 (because the RX8 had good ideas, acting like the successor to the RX7 FB)
@jovanycorona7361
@jovanycorona7361 8 жыл бұрын
I like how the colors of the cars are also the colors of the Japanese flag.
@zhoutorres2677
@zhoutorres2677 6 жыл бұрын
Dirty Harrier I just realized that
@Catalina._
@Catalina._ 5 жыл бұрын
NIPPONG
@TheBishop12
@TheBishop12 5 жыл бұрын
Jovany Corona the Rotary engine is a national treasure (thanks wankel)
@Luke_SkyWalk3r
@Luke_SkyWalk3r 3 жыл бұрын
Good eye
@229Mike
@229Mike 3 жыл бұрын
Oh snap
@smurphy505
@smurphy505 11 жыл бұрын
With the S2000 you get the most powerful and reliable engine, fifty fifty weight distribution, a beautiful blue sky above you, arguably the best looking, and at the lowest cost. It really begs the question, what the fuck is Honda doing right now?
@CaliPatriot88
@CaliPatriot88 11 жыл бұрын
I agree, I have totally lost all confidence in Honda in the performance car market. All the other manufacturers are passing them by leaps and bounds.
@Kingofheavyweights
@Kingofheavyweights 11 жыл бұрын
Honda just sucks now. Mazda is killing them.
@CaliPatriot88
@CaliPatriot88 11 жыл бұрын
Kingofheavyweights Mazda ain't all that great either but they still have the MazaSpeeds and the MX-5 at least. Honda does have the NSX but that ain't for the common man. Ford and Chevy are making a lot of fun cars now I'd probably go to them next.
@Kingofheavyweights
@Kingofheavyweights 11 жыл бұрын
Ford is the one I've been eyeballing other than mazda. Don't like chevy's. Some cars I just don't like haha
@CaliPatriot88
@CaliPatriot88 11 жыл бұрын
Yeah Ford has the Mustangs, the Focus and Fiesta STs and some others. The Focus ST is the one I've been eyeing for a new daily but I'd prefer to get the new 5.0 Mustang GT.
@Ktotheane
@Ktotheane 11 жыл бұрын
The S2000 is a legend of a car.
@shawnweed265
@shawnweed265 5 жыл бұрын
I think all these cars are pretty cool based on what you are looking for...but I had 2 S2000s...a 2001 then a 2004...They were fantastic...the build quality was topnotch and had a great balance of power and grip...and was a convertible...I also had a Lotus Elise...and while that was faster...it wasn't something you would want to drive all the time. The RX8 has that nice interior and back seats, though they looked cramped...and the FRZ is great looking, and cheap...a great first car...So it all depends on what you are looking for...
@davesmith1698
@davesmith1698 5 жыл бұрын
S2k is an overpriced miata with 80 more hp change my mind
@shawnweed265
@shawnweed265 5 жыл бұрын
@@davesmith1698 Actually...the 2004 S2000 had 98 more hp than the 2004 equivalent Miata...which is 60% more power (240 v.142)...which by any standard is not insignificant...The concept of whether something is overpriced is subjective, and relative to the amount of money someone is willing to spend on something...If you think it is overpriced...ok, don't buy one.
@DRTB4G
@DRTB4G 5 жыл бұрын
@@davesmith1698 the s2000 is like eating one of the most amazing steaks in your life at a super high end steak house, then the super hot waitress going home with you to f your brains out.... Whereas the miata is like getting some McDonald's, then watching porn on your cell phone and cleaning yourself up with the McDonald's bag....
@pwally2714
@pwally2714 5 жыл бұрын
@@davesmith1698 lol
@machomemo
@machomemo 10 жыл бұрын
This is the video that pushed me to finally buy an s2000!!
@TheBrownGarage
@TheBrownGarage 10 жыл бұрын
and was it worth it? if i sold my main car and my project car ide have just over 10k and i could get a s2000, but its a big choice
@Ioanides001
@Ioanides001 10 жыл бұрын
congrats! great choice :)
@stiflerg0d
@stiflerg0d 10 жыл бұрын
Aguém sabe quantos é o RX-8?
@OldemiroAmericoBaloi
@OldemiroAmericoBaloi 10 жыл бұрын
Welison Silva 3900 DOLARES NO TRADECARVIEW COMPREI MEU LA
@stiflerg0d
@stiflerg0d 10 жыл бұрын
Valew mano ^^
@ksmuffin
@ksmuffin 10 жыл бұрын
RX8 needs more love.
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 10 жыл бұрын
It has me to love it. That's all it needs.
@24thMandark
@24thMandark 10 жыл бұрын
I love rotary cars though I'm more of an Rx-7 guy.
@adam.3252
@adam.3252 6 жыл бұрын
Im fan of rx8 i save money for rx8
@ericsens4070
@ericsens4070 6 жыл бұрын
I love all but brz lol, too boring. S2k is buttered like texas tooas revving, rx8 is rotary, brz is erm, an fa20? Boring.
@benjaminreed6652
@benjaminreed6652 6 жыл бұрын
It needs new apex seals and more oil...
@TommymeganGoodman
@TommymeganGoodman 9 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. S2K has always been my dream car.... But I have 2 kids under the age of 7. Enter the Rx-8. It seats 4 somewhat comfortabley, and man.... This thing rips. My 2005 with 80k miles runs perfect. There is nothing that sounds like a 1.3 liter rotary engine at 9k RPM. Amazing car
@Yul-Uhlu
@Yul-Uhlu 5 жыл бұрын
I love that you guys acknowledge that no matter what you say or who wins, you'll be wrong. LMAO! You guys know the enthusiast community all too well.
@AlexShoe
@AlexShoe 8 жыл бұрын
the s2k has the best cornering out of all cars I've driven... feels like a go-kart in corners!!!
@mannishboy17
@mannishboy17 8 жыл бұрын
You guys Really nailed it on this one. People are gonna be watching this for years to come. 3 Classics put together for a SHOWDOWN!
@michaeladams9107
@michaeladams9107 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I am from the future, and here to tell you that I am watching this in 2023. Here in the future, Apple has come out with a cool augmented reality headset. Also, buy bitcoin and sell at $68k
@mannishboy17
@mannishboy17 Жыл бұрын
@@michaeladams9107 lol
@MTBfixHQ
@MTBfixHQ 10 жыл бұрын
I was stumped between the three but I went with a 2004 RX8, it had 80k miles and is mint all the way around and drives like new for $4500. Has 110k miles on it now and still driving like the day I bought it.. for the price there is no competition here the rx8 wins you just need to make sure you get a compression test done before buying one. I get 22 mpg average which is respectable for the power output, super easy to top the oil off every 2-3 weeks as well... and the thing is an absolute rocket!!
@BanshoWT
@BanshoWT 9 жыл бұрын
RX8 is a true enthusiasts car. If you don't give it attention it will break on you. Enjoy your blown engine at 80k miles because you forgot to redline and oil topoff. It has such a bad reputation from moron owners, be thankful for its wickedly low prices on the used market. I cross shopped between the FRS and RX8. I encourage people to drive them both, you have to be delusional to believe the FRS is better at anything besides fuel economy. Styling is obviously subjective but the feel/handling of the rotary is unmatched. 9k rpm unicorn sauce YOLO
@mrbrain80
@mrbrain80 9 жыл бұрын
You mean your going to blown your motor rotary engine at 80k. I've had 2nd and 3rd gen rx7. Rebuilt time is around 100k. Rotary is hard to rebuilt and cost a lot to maintain. I'll go with the s2000 no doubt. Scion brand will always be a cheap to me. Scions are meant for 16 years.
@BanshoWT
@BanshoWT 9 жыл бұрын
mrbrain80 I don't believe you have owned a 2nd or 3rd gen rx7 with dumb comments like that. Engines only blow up from carbon build up, where they will fail compression from apex seal wear which is quite different. And fixing a rotary is much much easier than a piston. Keep drinking that kool-aid, btw, RENESIS is very different from "your rx7s" (riiiiight) 13B; better oil lubrication and 9k redline to scratch the surface
@JamisonMK3
@JamisonMK3 9 жыл бұрын
mrbrain80 There is literally no engine easier to rebuild than a rotary. And if treated correctly, they'll last beyond 150k easy.
@WPTUNED
@WPTUNED 9 жыл бұрын
Jaebodiah I am so so tempted to go for a RX8 but I'm scared to go for it! I'm a mechanic and I've literally never worked on one but say the motor does give up are they really that easy to rebuild?
@WPTUNED
@WPTUNED 9 жыл бұрын
Jaebodiah I am so so tempted to go for a RX8 but I'm scared to go for it! I'm a mechanic and I've literally never worked on one but say the motor does give up are they really that easy to rebuild?
@petescarport
@petescarport 6 жыл бұрын
After doing tons of research and trying to find a fun track car I landed on the rx8. I was scared at first about the cost but do some research. I picked up a fully loaded near mint 2005 with a blown motor for $1100. Then found a rebuilt motor for $800 and got it installed for $300. The same shop will do a full rebuilt including all parts for $1700. Then I found I needed a transmission. At this point I thought I was screwed but I picked up a freshly rebuilt transmission got $300 with a new clutch and to install if I don’t do myself will be around $400. So with all said I have a very reliable track car for less than $3000. And now I have tons of money left for mods.
@gabswiss
@gabswiss 11 жыл бұрын
Love the S2000. Bought an AP1 couple years ago then had to sell it because I was buying a new house but I have been missing it since then so I just got me an AP2 (Silverstone Silver like I always wanted) and now I have my smile back while driving lol.
@eugenebelton9006
@eugenebelton9006 8 жыл бұрын
I also have a S2000 ,03 with over 205,000 miles on the original motor,with Invidia Dual exhaust system K&N air filter system,wit 19" inch rims bought off the show room floor in 03, and still love it. And add a SC430 also 2003 but was use with over a 100,000, but at the point now thinking of should I leave it or add Turbo or supercharge. When guys pull up and hear me comming they think some young punk is driving, not some old dud who is over 60.
@denioskate1
@denioskate1 9 жыл бұрын
Just bought a 2007 6-speed rx8 going to enjoy my first full day with it tomorrow! Your review on these cars made my choice easy! By far the most distinct engine sound of the 3 too!
@509sfinest6
@509sfinest6 9 жыл бұрын
Always wanted a s2000 and at 19 I bought one and I love it so much and will never sell it.
@luigichun210
@luigichun210 9 жыл бұрын
Loved this video, loved the cars, and love you guys. Keep doing this! I grew up wanting an RX-8, but I have been aching for an 86 for some time now. You guys presented information in a fair way in this comparison vid and now I'm considering an S2000.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 9 жыл бұрын
Luigi Chun - Very glad to hear this was helpful to you. We work very hard and always appreciate it when our work helps people find and consider cars they hadn't looked at before. Good luck in your search. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@inudude15
@inudude15 9 жыл бұрын
+Luigi Chun Do it, seriously I've owned my 04' for three years now, dailying it and its just awesome. I would look for an AP2, they just took care of a ton of little issues the AP1's suffered and the car has three torques instead of two so it's a bit better in traffic and day to day driving.Fair warning the car is gutless until about five thousand and VTEC kicks in at six grand. And check the car you look at, wring out and shift it hard from 1-2 and 2-3, if it grinds you've likely got worn synchros. Some of these cars have seen hard use, and might still clean up nice even after abuse. Plus again, if you're driving it right you're changing gear at 8,000rpm and that's tough on a gearbox.Also look at the quality of the top, if and when it goes bad it's surprisingly pricey to replace, because the top is actually glued to the bars of the convertible top's frame in certain places and it's a production to replace the top.There is also the timing chain tensioner, which can go bad. Try to get the car hot and shut it off and let it heat sink. Fire it back up, if there's a ticking noise from under the hood, the TCT is going bad. There's a modified part online that seems to solve the problem but if you pay Honda to replace it with their factory part, it can apparently go bad again in a thousand miles or last you another fifty thousand plus miles.If it can pass those tests, pull the trigger and buy it. Such a fun little car to drive, deceptively quick, and it really is Honda when Honda stood for something.
@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials
@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials 9 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about the all-new MX-5...........
@luigichun210
@luigichun210 9 жыл бұрын
GT6SuzukaTimeTrials Yeah, I haven't done much research but I hear it's very much a revived mx5 as far as driving experience and handling. It looks nice too
@z.hesselgresser6709
@z.hesselgresser6709 9 жыл бұрын
+Luigi Chun I bought a '04 AP2, a little over 2 years ago. I have never given it a second thought. Not once. That car can put a smile on my face no matter what kind of shiat day I'm having.
@yitznewton
@yitznewton 9 жыл бұрын
I've driven a BRZ and Miatas in NA, MSM, NC, ND versions. I got in an S2000 yesterday, and it was just, "Wow." What a fantastic car.
@RolanTHUNDER
@RolanTHUNDER 8 жыл бұрын
All great cars but the S2000, the amazing S2000 is the undisputed king :) Well done on the review guys, really well done.
@VirtualGuth
@VirtualGuth 6 жыл бұрын
Another S2000 owner here. The S2K is such a great car for someone like me who likes to enjoy curvy backroads during nice weather while running up and down through the gears - always with the top down. It truly has been far more fun than I could have imagined. But I can also understand why some might choose one of the other two cars in this comparison for any number of reasons. If it wasn't for my preference to own a convertible as a weekend car I'm sure that I could have plenty of fun in either the FRS or the RX8. (For that matter I'm sure that I'd manage to have plenty of fun in a Miata as long as it had a manual transmission.) People can argue to no end over which of these cars they feel is the best but the sad fact is that the market for driver-oriented cars like these seems to be fading away. Of course the S2000 and the RX8 are no longer made. But I'd also point out that sales of the Subaru BRZ dropped more than 7% in 2018 (3834 cars sold) while sales of the Toyota 86 dropped by nearly 40% (4146 cars sold). No information was provided about what percentage of the cars sold included a manual transmission. There's no telling how much longer these cars will continue to exist. Even the ever popular Miata suffered a 20% decline in sales last year (8971 cars sold). The decline in sales extends beyond just these cars to include a number of other vehicles that are more oriented towards the driving enthusiast. It seems that most auto buyers not looking for a pickup these days are really only interested in SUVs / CUVs complete with automatic transmissions of course. More info can be found on the Road & Track site here: www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/g25735819/2018-cars-nobody-bought/ If you've been wanting to own the type of vehicles featured in this video, or for that matter any other car geared more towards the actual driving experience, I'd recommend that you go ahead and pick whichever one appeals the most to you and buy it sooner rather than later.
@okumakamizu3030
@okumakamizu3030 7 жыл бұрын
I understand i'm late to the party, but No one at all is going to bring up the fact that : RX-8 is - -4-door -4-seater -only 200lb heavier than the other 2, -(or that while even now at 6'2 and 250lb+ i fit comfortably in both the front and back seats of RX-8, while 13 year ago under 6' and 80lb lighter i couldn't function in the seat of S2K and had to claw at pavement to get my self out as i was stuck.) -the one common major issue that RX-8 engine has is an ignorant dumbass for an owner -the "MAJOR OVERHAUL" of the rotary engine is basically seal replacement and can be done before lunch if you're not doing it with your feet, even once in 120k miles, now imagine the process of changing the piston rings you neglected the oiling of) or imagine dealing with the aftermath of a timing belt giving out on your reliable Honda Vtec engine (i did) there must be a lot of stock engines under 2L that make anywhere near this power that neglected reliably go into 200k miles territory, yea, rotary is terrible, phew
@gameofdrones773
@gameofdrones773 6 жыл бұрын
Okuma Kamizu the rx8 is by far the most practical car in this review, I have owned a series 1 for over 4 years now and it was my daily for the first 2 years and I’ve had no issues other than basic plugs and coils
@TheWhiteAfghan
@TheWhiteAfghan 4 жыл бұрын
Your comment shows much you regret buying rx8 by making up some bullshit about it only needs ever seal in the engine changed and it no big deal lol. Also the s2k has timing chain not a belt. Maybe your just not to bright...
@Kojayo55
@Kojayo55 10 жыл бұрын
I drive a 2011 Rx-8 and my brother drives a 2014 Scion FRS. We argue a lot about whose car is better.
@74kross
@74kross 9 жыл бұрын
***** they are both terds
@TheSilentEaglesNest
@TheSilentEaglesNest 9 жыл бұрын
***** Yours
@FirstnameLastname-do1px
@FirstnameLastname-do1px 9 жыл бұрын
***** It really depends on which one has a manual transmission and which one doesn't, or, if they both have a manual transmission, which one has more horses under the hood. If there both automatic, they both suck, so don't bother.
@cheezet100fyi
@cheezet100fyi 9 жыл бұрын
Caleb Carrigan It's 2015 and this guy is still comparing manual transmissions with automatic jesus.
@FirstnameLastname-do1px
@FirstnameLastname-do1px 9 жыл бұрын
***** I'm not comparing them, as I said, manual is better.
@MElekiaZ
@MElekiaZ 8 жыл бұрын
the best is the s2000 but his price is to high in used cars market.
@neelparmar6690
@neelparmar6690 8 жыл бұрын
For a good reason!
@KingEire
@KingEire 8 жыл бұрын
how much are they where you are they're around €6000 AP1 €9000 AP2
@ManuKILLED
@ManuKILLED 8 жыл бұрын
In Germany you get a s2k for about 20 000 € :D
@rscosworthfan
@rscosworthfan 8 жыл бұрын
spot on they are really expensive in the UK
@thedude102878
@thedude102878 8 жыл бұрын
Also very overpriced where I live. Going for $20k+ in okay condition, mint examples are getting closer to $40k. A little more horsepower and a push to start button is not worth the price difference from an rx8, which can be had for $3k, or an frs that goes for $17k on average
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 5 жыл бұрын
The Subaru BRZ and Honda S2000 are the two best affordable four cylinder RWD cars. So good that they can chase base model Porsche Boxsters and Lotus Elises. The Nissan 370Z/350Z, Infiniti G37/G35, and Hyundai Genesis Coupe are fun if your itching for more RWD V6 power. I also quite like the 2004 Ford Mustang New Edge.
@andreandrad3575
@andreandrad3575 8 жыл бұрын
S2000, better power, better handling, beautiful car, every where you go people stare as if it's a viper... What more can you ask? &I it responds beautifully to mods.
@andreandrad3575
@andreandrad3575 8 жыл бұрын
+Dylan Rudisail slap a hard too it it's practically the closest looking thing to a viper. But that's just my two cents, I love my 06 s2k.
@America_Number1
@America_Number1 8 жыл бұрын
Bro even bone stock s2k's look sexy as fuck
@FungusLabel
@FungusLabel 8 жыл бұрын
The S2000 is a little faster, but nothing can beat the unique feel and sound of a RX8! I hope Mazda will bring back a rotary engine car. TBH the RX-vision looks like RX-(7?9?) prototype.
@America_Number1
@America_Number1 8 жыл бұрын
LastWonderland The rx9 will have 400hp and cost around 80k, look up "mazda rx9".
@America_Number1
@America_Number1 8 жыл бұрын
***** www.caranddriver.com/features/2019-mazda-rx-9-25-cars-worth-waiting-for-feature www.autoworldnews.com/articles/18659/20160829/mazda-rx-9-arrives-by-2020-and-comes-with-the-popular-rotary-engine.htm car and driver is very reliable
@lajlijthoj
@lajlijthoj 9 жыл бұрын
I love all three of these cars, but I eventually picked the S2000 because of the engine.
@matt25675
@matt25675 4 жыл бұрын
Good pick
@Finding_Finance
@Finding_Finance 5 жыл бұрын
I own an fd and rx8. The rx8 cannot really be compared to these cars. I purchased an rx8 for $1500, ran it for a season racing and dropped in a new reman from Mazda. I installed used ohlins dfv, whiteline suspension, front swaybar, series 2 trans, series 2 diff, new oem exedy clutch, and some odds and end seals and such. I also put some advan rz2 and grippy tires. All for steals of a deal off rx8’s. Total cost is $7500 for all that. I cannot come close to the performance of this car for anywhere near that or any other car that is rwd and can fit me at 6’2”
@zXYOMAMA2120Xz
@zXYOMAMA2120Xz 10 жыл бұрын
If only the rotary wasn't as thirsty and more reliable...
@ayrtonatif047
@ayrtonatif047 10 жыл бұрын
Joe Bruzzese 400km? I wonder how do you manage that? Plz do tell us how do you drive it correctly
@SpikeRazzor
@SpikeRazzor 10 жыл бұрын
Joe Bruzzese That's an absolute shame... Im getting close to 500 driving normally in an 06 G35 coupe...
@MarcusS103
@MarcusS103 7 жыл бұрын
They are relaible they are treated like a normal engine and that's why they die Young if you take car of her like your supposed to she will reward you I really do enjoy my rotary 😍
@DarkStryker
@DarkStryker 9 жыл бұрын
I have an 07 rx8.. I love it..I test drove the frs a couple of time, to get a feel to see if I would get it, I even drove the crap out of 350z's, but I still love the rx8 better
@chrisgregson3626
@chrisgregson3626 10 жыл бұрын
Can't get enough of this video (not least because the S2 comes out on top). It's beautifully filmed, with honest opinions and an in depth look at all of the cars. Just goes to show you don't need crazy money to get your motoring kicks in life. It's also one of the few videos featuring an S2 on KZbin that has a stock example, not a horrible modified one. Thanks again Everyday Driver!
@rousseau327
@rousseau327 11 жыл бұрын
Good job on calling out the fanboys on their bullshit right off the bat.
@jeremytin
@jeremytin 11 жыл бұрын
S2000 all the way. It truly does put a smile on your face when one is behind the wheel. Respects to the other 2, but hands down to the s2000 when it comes to driver focus, handling, fit and finish, balance of power and fuel consumption to be THE "everyday car". It behaves very decently and calm when you want it to, and it will release the beast within when you call for it.
@infamousrx8960
@infamousrx8960 4 жыл бұрын
huh... your wrong in the fact that your not wrong. You guys definitely have the correct RX8 for the review. The R3 is the best stock RX8 to review to show the potential and capability of the platform.
@brandonsanders3442
@brandonsanders3442 10 жыл бұрын
I've owned all three of these cars and I can say all three are amazing! I couldn't agree more with their review in stating that the FRS seems to be my least favorite as it lacks the power, doesn't rev quite as high, and has a tad bit more oversteer (which can be fun). It's still a great car, just the other two are slightly better. I must say that the RX8 was the one I had the hardest time getting rid of. That was probably because it made a fantastic daily driver and always put a smile on my face driving it with it's oddly amazing rotary motor. The S2000 was hands down the fastest and the most fun, but it really became a pain as a daily driver.
@connorsmith1576
@connorsmith1576 6 жыл бұрын
I've driven all three and bought an rx8, just fell in love with the power delivery of the rx8. The FRS is way too expensive for a relatively basic and definitely underpowered car, so for me it became a toss up between honda and mazda, and the fact that the S2000 is roughly double the price of an RX8 and is far less practical for daily use it was an easy choice. Heated leather seats, Bose sound system, big trunk and four doors with decent enough space inside for four adults! The cost of oil for me has worked out to about £5 a month and gets checked every other full tank of fuel so really not a big deal to me after 20,000 miles without a single problem.
@Dragon228833
@Dragon228833 4 жыл бұрын
S2000 was about 33k in 2000 which is about 50k in today’s money. A brz/86 is less than 30k brand new today with all the modern features. Not saying the brz is better than the s2k but ur getting a pretty good bang for your buck
@wtollick0953
@wtollick0953 8 жыл бұрын
i agree with you Andrew. the S2000 is not a family car. it's a roadster. no more than 5 cubic feet of space in the trunk. no back seat. the suspension, stabilization, and weight distribution makes the S2000 one of the best roadsters ever made under 35k.one of the best. because it's a honda, you can try to run it into the ground and - you can't. it takes ALL you make it do and says "Thank You - May I Have More?" my car.......... i love it.
@clueless3398
@clueless3398 8 жыл бұрын
+sleepybird09 there are a handful that suck, and any car in a junkyard was abused in someway.
@wtollick0953
@wtollick0953 8 жыл бұрын
***** my own experience, sleepy..... i've been driving honda's for 22 years and mine never had the problems my wife's cars have had. Mitsubishi, Kia, and most recently pontiac. the grand am.... hmmm. my stearing or transmission never needed work with honda. those repairs were still under warranty as well. this means they wore out way too early for the market. crap cars. talk about longevity. my S2000 is 15 years old and still drives like it's under warranty. and i can do things with this car well.... i've had fun with the S2000. a whole lot of fun.
@BoogieDownProduction
@BoogieDownProduction 8 жыл бұрын
Sorry but you had shit luck or dont take care of your cars. 97 accord is one of the most reliable accord generations ever made (5th gen). I dont know much about the 2011 civic but wouldnt doubt it being ultra reliable as well (I know some of the earlier civics had issues like 2001+, but pretty sure theyve been solid for awhile).
@BoogieDownProduction
@BoogieDownProduction 8 жыл бұрын
***** Im on multiple forums for my 96 accord. Ive been on them for years. Its one of the most reliable accord generations ever.....
@therealdefpunk
@therealdefpunk 10 жыл бұрын
Today's RX8 are about 3K with engine failure. Get this done and some other stuff (like brakes, suspension) and for 10k you'll have a hell of an everyday drive. More than just 2 seats and that exotic looks.
@lovropirkl2672
@lovropirkl2672 4 жыл бұрын
The reason why I chose the Mazda is because it's the fastest, the most practical, and the sound... don't get me talking about it. It's a little bit drunk and drinks a litre of oil every 1000 miles, but so far I haven't had a single issue with it.
@Buoyant_Thoughts
@Buoyant_Thoughts 9 жыл бұрын
Test drove a frs, and bought a rx8. The frs felt cheap. Handled great but felt like a prius would out run it. My 06 rx8 handles great too, but doesn't feel cheap and has more power. Do like the looks of the frs though. Lol the Honda dealer told me the hood was carbon fiber over and over again, I just had to shake my head.
@trentmclellan1037
@trentmclellan1037 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 Manual FRS with exhaust and intake and I've beaten 13" Camaro 1LT 323hp 1000 Pounds heavier (roll)3rd(50-120mph, the lowest end model 3 283hp 1000 Pounds heavier (roll)3rd(60-110mph, Focus st 250hp 500 pounds heavier 3rd(60-115mph, genisis 2.0T 270hp 800 Pounds heavier 3rd(60-120mph Challenger SXT 303hp 1300 Pounds heavier 3rd(60-110mph and everyone looks at the FRS and says slow but I've beaten all these cars that are supposed to be faster because I weigh 2700 lbs (give or take 1000 Pounds more than all these cars) I wouldn't classify this car as slow at all
@Buoyant_Thoughts
@Buoyant_Thoughts 3 жыл бұрын
@@trentmclellan1037 I really like them and in its defense , I didnt get to drive it much but a small test drive. Am surprised to hear it beat what it has.
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 7 жыл бұрын
Just to note, with the RX-8, if you're not keeping the revs up in the 5000RPM range, not only are you losing out on power but you're also shortening the engine life. Rotary engines don't behave like reciprocating engines. On a reciprocating engine, you have to make sure not to overrev to prevent wear on the crankshaft and rods. On a rotary, you have to make sure to keep the revs up to prevent carbon buildup. So, in short, if you're driving the RX-8 slow, letting it idle a lot, shifting at low RPMs or hypermilling, you're flat-out driving it wrong and the engine doesn't like that.
@SlyTrashPanda9000
@SlyTrashPanda9000 Жыл бұрын
Important research being done here. Thanks for all the great content!
@Proff0ak
@Proff0ak 9 жыл бұрын
VRUGH, MORE TRIANGLES!!!
@tomiyu2297
@tomiyu2297 9 жыл бұрын
+Eggly Bagelface SHEMALE PORN ADDICTION
@maxmusson2317
@maxmusson2317 9 жыл бұрын
+Kakyoin Noriaki PISS SPIN
@motakai3898
@motakai3898 7 жыл бұрын
My ball sack!
@AngelMartinez-fl7vg
@AngelMartinez-fl7vg 6 жыл бұрын
The Regular Car Guy.
@jonathanhiener2463
@jonathanhiener2463 5 жыл бұрын
BIGGER AIR...oh wait that's the FD
@dkyoungson151
@dkyoungson151 8 жыл бұрын
I have an AP1. S2k > everything. But the GT86 is so beautiful.
@timdean5100
@timdean5100 10 жыл бұрын
I have a 2013 BRZ but I have always said that the S2000 styling never gets old looking!
@Shnagloggler
@Shnagloggler 10 жыл бұрын
FRS is the same price as a Honda SI. I could not imagine choosing the SI over the FRS and I work for Honda. Honda designers need to really look at cars like the FRS and 375 Z and design something that actually looks nice. The new SI is hideous in my opinion.
@Shnagloggler
@Shnagloggler 10 жыл бұрын
I am because they are both considered sports cars for the same price range, so although they have different drive trains they attract a similar target markets. Also you will notice I am only talking about the comparisons from a design perspective not a drive train.
@S3maxime16
@S3maxime16 10 жыл бұрын
Shnagloggler For people that have to use the car during the winter as well, the SI is much better. If I lived somewhere warmer I would definitly buy a FRS over the SI tho.
@Shnagloggler
@Shnagloggler 10 жыл бұрын
S3maxime16 Yeah for sure in winter conditions I would probably be comparing the SI with the GTI and although I think the SI is more reliable I would probably end up buying the GTI considering the 2015 has 258lbs of torque compared to Hondas 170.
@S3maxime16
@S3maxime16 10 жыл бұрын
True but as you said, If you're planning on keeping the car for a while, maintenance is a lot cheaper on a civic.
@Shnagloggler
@Shnagloggler 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah that is true absolutely. I live in Canada and they build Civics and CRV's in Alliston. Whereas with Volkswagen you pay a large premium for the parts because they are imported plus the labour is more expensive. Its one of those things my common sense will lean toward the SI but that part of me that wants something a little more will probably manipulate my mind into buying the GTI.
@DANOEMYTE
@DANOEMYTE 11 жыл бұрын
Wow so much hating going on, all three of these cars are the shit. I own an Rx8 and love her to death, but the other two are just as badass. Minor difference in the things that matter, so mayny people who have never even driven all three try to tell you whats best lol....hilarious.....just be happy that such good cars exist , that its hard to tell which ones are better.......a redline a day keeps the carbon away fellas , cheers
@neilbezuidenhout9284
@neilbezuidenhout9284 6 жыл бұрын
Amen brother
@ZombieHeadShot9
@ZombieHeadShot9 9 жыл бұрын
I have a 2004 s2k and my dad has a 2006 s2k and from the second I drove my dad's I knew it was my favorite car I had ever driven and needed one
@BoostedPastime
@BoostedPastime 8 жыл бұрын
I think about getting an S2000 but when I look at the prices the FRS Is more appealing LOL
@dominikw4219
@dominikw4219 8 жыл бұрын
Boosted Fool lmao I know the s2k is soooo experience
@GitGoodGaming
@GitGoodGaming 5 жыл бұрын
RX8s are cheaper than either of them xD
@ThisisBrak
@ThisisBrak 11 жыл бұрын
I know the Honda lovers came here to watch the s2000 dominate. Fastest, most reliable and cheapest of the cars.
@SnapquesterMage
@SnapquesterMage 10 жыл бұрын
Cheapest only because you can only buy them used. New ones went for 32-36k, which is as much as 11 grand more than an FRS. I'd imagine if Toyota wanted to sell the FRS for 30-35 grand, it would be a very different car than what it is now. As it stands, it costs less than a loaded Camry.
@ThisisBrak
@ThisisBrak 10 жыл бұрын
cfusionpm A valid point and yes I meant cheapest because of the price you can buy them at right now. What's sad is that a car that began production in 1999 is dominating vehicles 15 years later. I would spend 32k on an s2000 and have it be THAT good for 15 years than 20k on an rx-8 and br-z today and have it lose in its first year to a 15 year old car which is clearly superior.
@DV7Dave
@DV7Dave 10 жыл бұрын
ThisisBrak RX-8 is a beast of its own. Half the fun is looking after it, haha. Can't really speak for the S2000 or 86, but they seem like amazing cars.
@fatboy19831
@fatboy19831 10 жыл бұрын
ThisisBrak You can buy a used 2013 BRZ for 22k with 20k miles on it. An 9 year old stock S2k with under 80k miles on it will run you 20k. Only the RX8 can be had for next to nothing prices. Their are no real "deals" in the automotive world. You get what you pay for.
@buildmorefarms1007
@buildmorefarms1007 10 жыл бұрын
FR-S is far cheaper than the other 2 if all were available new. RX-8 is a gamble some engines die some are ok long term.S2000? no thanks, no convertibles for me.
@kumainu425
@kumainu425 6 жыл бұрын
As a former S2000 owner from 15 years ago, you've picked the correct winner. That car was just so pure and fantastic to drive. It was so raucous and fun. To this day, I have driven many cars that could be on the same level of such pure joy, except the Cayman S, which I've also owned. Oh, and the gear box...Good God, it was incredible! One of the best gear boxes ever made in history. It was so crisp, precise, short-throw, and engaging. I miss it very much!!! I hope Honda will make a new version of it. I was in my early 20s when I owned it, now I'm old. :( The fun I had back then with the top down and summer heat and wind blowing in my face, sometimes with different girls accompanied me. God, those were the fun days of a youngster!
@mrgearheadfromhell
@mrgearheadfromhell 8 жыл бұрын
Being a master certified technician I always research a potential purchase, while the Mazda rotary engine has been proven to be a force to be reckoned with as you mentioned it burns a lot of oil and drinks a lot of gas. The Honda has also secured it's place with the VTEC engine that is best described as that of a power band in a two stroke dirt bike. My 09 Tacoma has the 4.0 with the variable valve timing and when you stick your foot in it, the attitude of the engine changes as well as the exhaust note. So while the VTEC is a tried and true power plant, everyone owns a Honda. That leaves the FR-S, actually the best engine design ever built, the apposed engine doesn't offer any vertical thrust on the engine bearings. Due to the design of either inline or "V" engines they both wear the engine bearings, lower mains and upper rods, the boxer engine doesn't wear the bearings because of the apposed design, the crankshaft floats in a film of oil. Another good point is they got away from the timing belts so you don't have to replace that on regular intervals. While none of these cars are destine to be family cars, the Honda doesn't have a back seat, the Mazda probably has the best back seat and the FR-S back seat is just for show. So then you have to look at intended use, while all three could be daily drivers the Mazda will require the most maintenance where the Honda and FR-S would probably be similar possibly a slight edge to the FR-S due to the lack of a timing belt. However at the end of the day you can't buy a new Honda S2000, I feel the FR-S will get better and you can keep the RX8. Although unless your racing, 200 HP out of a 2.0L engine should get you back and forth from the grocery store. Personally I like the timing chain and rear wheel drive. I have to make some room as I currently own 9 vehicles, 2 motorcycles and 2 jet ski's, so my yard looks like a used car lot.
@michalisgeorg4653
@michalisgeorg4653 8 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you! I'm curious about your 9 cars.
@EdwintheMagicEngineer
@EdwintheMagicEngineer 8 жыл бұрын
Very informative, great perspective. Thanks for taking the time to write this. I own both a Subaru BRZ and a Porsche Cayman and what surprised the heck out of me is that I usually enjoy driving the BRZ more. I love getting a little loose at low speeds and that's pretty much the name of the game for the BRZ. The Cayman just STICKS to the road. I feel planted in the Cayman, I have way more confidence to go fast. It's much more of a posh high speed driving experience and the BRZ is my grins every day daily driver.
@mrgearheadfromhell
@mrgearheadfromhell 8 жыл бұрын
Edwin Tracy Thank you, I don't see the point in simply saying this is better or worse than that without the facts that are involved in coming to the conclusion. Unfortunately a lot of money can be lost really quick when you start looking at sports cars, having the right information makes all the difference. Personally I like to "drive sideways" and so long as I can afford tires I will continue to do so. The best thing about the FR-S / BRZ is as long as they are selling they will continue to improve them. I have seen videos of people putting superchargers on them already, so the aftermarket industry is also working on bolt on upgrades. I have been inside Subaru boxer engines with 155,000+ miles that didn't need main or rod bearings. The engines I tore down were due to overheating to the extent that the tension on the rings was gone so they were burning oil like a freight train, the heads were pink on one and had to be replaced. I just honed the cyl's and replaced the rings. However you have to split the block in half to get the crank out, it's really a interesting engine to build. The new engines with the DOHC 4 valve heads have got to be insane, it's basically the same block just a different valve train. I'm going to give them another year or two because I believe they will be stepping up the later generations. Keep in mind "control" is an illusion, this is the type of car that reminds you of that.
@jordanpark8980
@jordanpark8980 11 жыл бұрын
gotta give the rx8 some respect, because it produces 240hp out of a 1.3l
@sydneyACE
@sydneyACE 11 жыл бұрын
That would definitely deserve some respect.... IF it had at least a little bit of torque... AND didn't use more gas than a 2.0l doing it.... AND didn't wear-out after 70k miles.
@jordanpark8980
@jordanpark8980 11 жыл бұрын
SydneyACE its actually up to the owner, to care for it
@mickturbo2652
@mickturbo2652 11 жыл бұрын
Actually it's the equivalent to a 2.6 liter engine actually.
@agent27droid
@agent27droid 11 жыл бұрын
Mick turbo It is the EQUIVALENT, not that it actually is. Meaning it makes similar power/emissions as a 2.6 liter piston engine. Because of this it was classified as a 2.6 liter for taxation in the UK purposes, and for race sanctioning for some events/leagues. But the engine itself has a displacement of 1308cc/1.3 liters, NOT 2.6 liters.
@K20EF8
@K20EF8 5 жыл бұрын
@@agent27droid It doesnt matter what its "displacement" is in the traditional definition. Every engine cycle results in the combustion of 1.3L of volume as apposed to a 4 stroke piston engine which has its volume combusted over 2 revolutions. ie if you want to compare its the equivalent of 2616cc 4 stroke engine.
@andreasbeaufort3594
@andreasbeaufort3594 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a convertible car kind of guy either, but I have ALWAYS had a very soft spot for that little Honda ever since it was first launched. I've never driven any of those three cars, but the Honda is by far the one I want the most: simple, pretty, elegant, small, a raging 2-litre engine, and Honda reliable. Thanks for another excellent video, guys!
@oliviatang29
@oliviatang29 8 жыл бұрын
I'm saving up for an 86. Perfect car to add mods to imo.
@BigBoiMo1995
@BigBoiMo1995 8 жыл бұрын
You'll love it lol. stellar Handling, gas MPG, looks... I got it 10 months ago I swear I still can't take my eyes off of it as I'm walking away from it 😂
@sungod1976
@sungod1976 10 жыл бұрын
Now that you guys drove the s2000 twice, you now need to do a review of the s2000 CR ( Club Racer ), made in 2008 and 2009.
@gerryobee
@gerryobee 6 жыл бұрын
I had the opportunity to buy a 2010 RX8 R3 with low miles and at a fraction the price of an S2000... because of the reputation for reliability. The second gen RX still needs to be treated like a rotary - proper warm up, cool down, clean oil, don't be afraid to use the rpm's - and the reliability is quite good. In the years that I've had rotary's, I have never had to crack one open. I am keeping this one stock, drive it everyday that has no rain or snow and the driving experience continues to blow me away.
@erickh380
@erickh380 8 жыл бұрын
The rotary engine is one of the best
@BoostedPastime
@BoostedPastime 8 жыл бұрын
If you're a firefighter.
@BoostedPastime
@BoostedPastime 8 жыл бұрын
If you're a firefighter.
@BoostedPastime
@BoostedPastime 8 жыл бұрын
If you're a firefighter.
@Reefer-Rampage69
@Reefer-Rampage69 8 жыл бұрын
as an owner of an FD RX-7 I agree
@rscosworthfan
@rscosworthfan 8 жыл бұрын
if you like using lots of oil yes
@alexlopez2995
@alexlopez2995 8 жыл бұрын
Traded my 2013 WRX hatchback for another S2000... Best decision I ever made. The subie was fun.. The S2000 is way more fun. I've missed this car so much.
@alexlopez2995
@alexlopez2995 8 жыл бұрын
+Hugh Jayness My first S was an 06 AP2. The S I have now is an 08 AP2. Both are relatively identical. Both extremely fun! :)
@LoveLikeaHurricane
@LoveLikeaHurricane 9 жыл бұрын
Bought an 05 white s2000 last month at 80k miles. My life now begins
@qasimmir7117
@qasimmir7117 8 жыл бұрын
Your decisions are not wrong. S2000 all the way, all the way to 9000RPM.
@Shootfirstt
@Shootfirstt 9 жыл бұрын
Dude in the red shirt looks like the younger Doc from Back to the future
@TheMano03
@TheMano03 11 жыл бұрын
You guys represent what Top Gear USA should have been -- honest, unadulterated reviews of cars that the everyday man (or woman) can afford and enjoy. Even the most novice of car aficionados can appreciate what you guys bring to the table. Bravo gentlemen -- you just gained a new subscriber just for the respect you have for my intelligence.
@andrewnaylor7627
@andrewnaylor7627 10 жыл бұрын
Watched this video and was adamant I would buy the GT86 next. A year later on and now I mainly drive a company car so I followed my heart not my head and bought an RX8. Kinda like a hot girl, you know she’s gonna break your heart but you love her anyways.
@stiflerg0d
@stiflerg0d 10 жыл бұрын
I am Brazilian, and was wondering how you paid in your RX-8 How many US dollars?
@OldemiroAmericoBaloi
@OldemiroAmericoBaloi 10 жыл бұрын
Welison Silva check rx8club on fb I can add ya there, www.tradecarview.com/used_car/japan%20car/mazda/all/ check the website above cars from japan but friend advice its an rotary engine try to ask if there are mechanics for it is not normal engine and read about common issues before buy and don´t buy high millages/ KMs
@andrewnaylor7627
@andrewnaylor7627 10 жыл бұрын
Welison Silva I'm from the UK and prices here are dirt cheap. £2500 for 35k miles. Id recommend getting a compression check before purchase and do your research on the engine. I love mine but ive left some money spare just if the worst was to happen :-/
@rsegraves
@rsegraves 9 жыл бұрын
nice honest review. looking to buy a rotary now :)
@TheMuLe85
@TheMuLe85 9 жыл бұрын
Just bought mines an 06 and I love it
@secretafaf
@secretafaf 9 жыл бұрын
Jamal Lawrence do you flood it a lot?
@nitepatrol1873
@nitepatrol1873 9 жыл бұрын
Royston Graves Go for Series 2 you wont regret it!
@JbirdtheDJ
@JbirdtheDJ 9 жыл бұрын
I own an s2 I would highly recommend it because Mazda worked out almost all of the issues that occurred with the early gens.. Stay away from 04 and 05 because Mazda was rushed with releasing them and those tend to have flooding and engine problems
@KnockoutInvesting
@KnockoutInvesting 9 жыл бұрын
+Royston Graves ur dumb
@jasonmendonca4771
@jasonmendonca4771 9 жыл бұрын
This was a great comparo. I've driven the S2K and the RX8. Haven't driven the FRS. Sounds like a fun car. I loved the handling of the RX8. It was easy to drive hard. The S2K was amazing fun. Handled like nothing else I've driven below $90k and I love a convertible. Thanks for a great show. And all you ridiculously angry people need to chill.
@80KG_Costco_Chicken
@80KG_Costco_Chicken 11 жыл бұрын
I do believe you can find a really nice BMW 128, even certified 128 for around $26000. Although S2000 is still my favorite
@Cathexis256
@Cathexis256 8 жыл бұрын
Why I like the Rx8 over the other two: -Low price since its stopped production -Possibility of it becoming a retro/classic in the future -2 usable seats in the back for a coupe (depends on size of passengers though) -Suicide doors, ease of entering/exiting passengers -Longer wheel base provides more stable ride -Personally I really like the styling of the first gen Issues regarding the suspension imo can be retuned to one's liking. The only bad thing imo is the rotary which devours fuel and oil. Either way now that its 2016, prices of Rx8's have gone really low, I can see them for about 3-10k for mid to late 2000's. That is actually one of the main reasons to get one. If I were to do so, I'd definitely do an engine swap. Heck with 2 decent passenger seats, it'd be fine as a daily driver for a single child family!
@mecagodzilla3
@mecagodzilla3 7 жыл бұрын
Each time someone swap a rotary with something else, felix wankel suffers.
@deekay2
@deekay2 10 жыл бұрын
One of the best reviews I have ever seen. Excellent.
@AntilleanConfederation
@AntilleanConfederation 9 жыл бұрын
am i the only one that thinks this second gen rx8 is sexy?
@chinchy111
@chinchy111 9 жыл бұрын
yes its very nice. this is the R3 trim so it looks even better than the normal rx8
@andrewrout8712
@andrewrout8712 8 жыл бұрын
+NEPTUNE117 There's something wrong with the world if you are! Although I think the 1st look even nicer
@christwist8455
@christwist8455 8 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Rout I prefer the subtle 1st gen :3
@YamMaxim700
@YamMaxim700 8 жыл бұрын
+NEPTUNE117 I love them. Have an '04 exactly like the one tested.
@christwist8455
@christwist8455 8 жыл бұрын
Chad Harvey um the one tested in this vid? its an '11 :P
@Toloveforpeace
@Toloveforpeace 11 жыл бұрын
I own both the s2000 and the rx8. The s2000 looks so much nicer and the girls like it more; however, the RX8 in my opinion has better handling better predictability and also the traction control doesn't hurt. I've spun out on the s2000 3 times never in the rx8. The s2000 is so loud it's frankly hard to live with on a daily basis unless you are hitting the trails next to the beach. RX8 better handling with it's 4 seats and bose sound system gets me driving it everyday. It's so much more comfortable.. Picking up the girlfriend in a hot summer day? It's gotta be the s2000. But how many summer days do we even have?
@LHpitcher44
@LHpitcher44 11 жыл бұрын
I can't explain how jealous I am that you have an S2K AND an RX8....you sir, are my hero
@SuperApeFight
@SuperApeFight 10 жыл бұрын
Well said. I've not owned an RX8 but I've had two S2000s, an MX5, a GTI and now a GT86. Why two S2000s? Well the first one died as I swerved to avoid an oncoming van due to some failed traffic lights. I stupidly took my foot off the throttle as I swerved and that was it, game over. The GT86 (and pretty much every other car made in the last 15 years) does not try to kill you if you take avoiding action. I hope your three S2000 spins did you/others and the car no harm.
@georgevella4797
@georgevella4797 Жыл бұрын
Interesting head to head comparisons of three truly fun driving cars. And seeing the video 10 years on, also fun. About the same time I bought my S2000 used. And yes… I smile every time we go for a ride.
@ZDY66666
@ZDY66666 8 жыл бұрын
But rotary engines man. Not best performance BUT MAN that shit is LIIIITTTTTTTT. Just so...so good sounding and feeling. #apexSeals
@johnss2k434
@johnss2k434 7 жыл бұрын
Prices have went up for the s2000, but it's worth every penny!
@ZachariahConnor
@ZachariahConnor 10 жыл бұрын
I don't just like this because I'm an S2000 owner for 7 years now which is my daily driver. It is very interesting to hear the comments- I love my red S2000!!!!
@krisrudecki9477
@krisrudecki9477 9 жыл бұрын
Decat and remap an Rx8 and it's a peach ;)
@thingsdemystified
@thingsdemystified 11 жыл бұрын
Could it be that they think the FRS needs more power only because another car has more power? I bet if they threw an M5 into the mix that day, they'd wish the S2000 had more power. You always want more when someone else has more. There is no cure to the desire for more power.
@marsh1791
@marsh1791 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, because they are basically direct competitors. You would say that about most things that everything is relative and that's the point. Unless you irrationally love it like a fanboy usually does you are going to buy the better car. In this case more power gives you a better driving experience which is what these cars are about.
@thingsdemystified
@thingsdemystified 11 жыл бұрын
Marshall Roderick So what's the next closest competitor with more power?
@branflakes9595
@branflakes9595 10 жыл бұрын
ThingsDemystified These are the next closest competitors? RWD, 2 doors, and close to the same power.
@smileybear6024
@smileybear6024 10 жыл бұрын
Probably an s15 rear wheel drive more than 200 hp long wheel base and the last of it's kind just like the s2000 and the rx8
@eyemastervideo
@eyemastervideo 10 жыл бұрын
I doubt it. Again, the Miata was fantastic, but lacking in power. FRS and BRZ are again fantastic, but lack power. The S2000 had great power and handling. The cars are not asking for 300hp, but anything less than 200hp make them feel like they are anemic, you just feel like it should have a little more.
@mathewmartinez3298
@mathewmartinez3298 4 жыл бұрын
I beat the life out of my 06 rx8, I go to meets, jump in drift pits with it, bang gears like crazy. So far shes at 96,500 miles on original engine, no apex blown or anything.
@frankdakey8884
@frankdakey8884 9 жыл бұрын
I use to own an RX8 3 years ago!..never will I forget about that car :)
@dacray6266
@dacray6266 9 жыл бұрын
+Francisco Jimenez I still miss mine. :(
@DJFish8051
@DJFish8051 10 жыл бұрын
I'm saving up for a s2000 I can't wait till I have enough
@williampike726
@williampike726 4 жыл бұрын
Its been 6 years, have you gotten it?
@slimjim77M
@slimjim77M 4 жыл бұрын
@@williampike726 Probably not. Those things have gone up like a rocket in price.
@RahulKumar-ny3ir
@RahulKumar-ny3ir 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you Honda! Thank you for making the S2000. I love driving it every day. So much fun to drive
@CreelKyle
@CreelKyle 9 жыл бұрын
The S2000 is much cheaper and it's a roadster. It's much more reliable. What has happened to the other cars? The other cars are newer and more expensive and still can't be as good as a 10 year old car. Shows you how much effort car makers put into their cars these days.
@quadrunner2124
@quadrunner2124 9 жыл бұрын
Kyle Creel Age doesn't determine capability, nor does time guarantee progress.
@troyclayton7289
@troyclayton7289 9 жыл бұрын
Kyle Creel Usually cars that cost 60k new are better than cars that cost 30k. Age does not have that big of an effect on the car. Like a 2006 Z06 Corvette right now is like 25k. I would take that over anything in this video. The S200 is a fine car, but I would like the vette more. Older cars are a much better value than the new counter parts.
@inudude15
@inudude15 9 жыл бұрын
+Kyle Creel To be fair you can't actually make the S2000 anymore. I mean, mine would be legitimately illegal if you badged it as a 2015 instead of a 2004. No traction control, it has only two airbags instead of the fifty-five that new cars all seem to come with, it has an actual mechanical throttle cable, there isn't a 78" TV screen embedded in the dash, and if you need to back up you actually need to turn your head and look behind you.The S2000 was a fine car for its time, but it's obviously an outdated, archaic, arguably dangerous relic :P
@Norrr3
@Norrr3 9 жыл бұрын
+inudude15 umm no lol 5 star crash test rating. This car is timeless .
@Norrr3
@Norrr3 9 жыл бұрын
All features you mentioned can be added
@dennisnguyenful
@dennisnguyenful 10 жыл бұрын
The s2000 cost over 30k in 2009 and the frs/brz only cost ~25k now. And for that you get a 40 less hp but a warranty of a new car. It's a trade off but if you put 5k into the frs it would be faster than the s2000.
@TheBrownGarage
@TheBrownGarage 10 жыл бұрын
but you could get a s200 for 10-15k and dump 10k into it and not spend more than a stock new frs
@TheBrownGarage
@TheBrownGarage 10 жыл бұрын
in the end it all comes done to preference and what you can afford
@marciwata9684
@marciwata9684 10 жыл бұрын
Do yourself a favor....drive an S2000 before you buy, if you haven't.
@NormalMonkey
@NormalMonkey 10 жыл бұрын
If you do that you void the warranty, and since your putting more stress to a stock engine you also play with reliability... And we all know about Subaru flat 4 boxter engine reliability...
@kens97sto171
@kens97sto171 9 жыл бұрын
Best friend has an 04 S2000, bought it used in 05 with 15,000 miles. He now has 280,000 miles. at 180,000 new clutch. About 200,000 lost a single fuel injector. I suspect it was just an injector seal, since it ran ok.. just stank of fuel under the hood. Replaced the top material at 220,000 power mechanism works fine. Couple batteries, Oil Changes, and Brakes... and not those very often. You want a reliable fun car... it's your choice. However all these cars are pretty awesome.
@thenon-vapingsubie
@thenon-vapingsubie 11 жыл бұрын
I love all three to death, even owned an ap2 s2000 for a while. I loved that car. But due to a 2 seater being impractical and my budget for a car dropped about 10k, the RX-8 is my choice. Quad coupe with the perks of RWD 6spd gear box and a buttery smooth engine, you can't go wrong. Many people love or hate it, which is fine, to-each-their-own. I'm excited to buy an RX-8!
@mikedaniels7766
@mikedaniels7766 11 жыл бұрын
No Miata? Ahh come on. I'm not even a fan of miatas.. but its a drivers car forsure
@mohammedseedat4453
@mohammedseedat4453 6 жыл бұрын
Just bought an s2000 after this video thank u thank u thank u what an awesome car
@madbomer72
@madbomer72 9 жыл бұрын
These are some of my favorite little sports cars ^_^
@FiredEmpire
@FiredEmpire 10 жыл бұрын
These days honda's reputation as an automaker has kept falling down...the only way to get it where it used to be and show what they really are capable of is to make sports cars like the s2000 and the NSX again. Fortunately they know what they have to do and are working on the forthcoming NSX 2, so we should just be a little more patient for the announcement of the next s2000.
@lukethekanefan
@lukethekanefan 10 жыл бұрын
the early type r integra and civic type r was awesome but yea what you said is right the newest civic type r they made was no upgrade on power compared to previous models and heavier with worse suspension so the all new 2015 civic type r they have announced will hopefully be awesome
@parkerbennett9756
@parkerbennett9756 10 жыл бұрын
You mean a sports car reputation right? Because the honda civic is the best deal out there for commuting. You can rack serious miles on them with no repairs, they get 35mpg, and only cost 15-17k. Honda doesn't make a living off sports cars. They sell more cars than most other car companies that's not falling down.
@filipefernandes4895
@filipefernandes4895 10 жыл бұрын
parker bennett i think the mean the sport car market
@nigmosh65
@nigmosh65 10 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, Honda showed us a concept recently that will be the successor called the Honda S660. Hopefully, this new car lives up to the expectations.
@mugenfd24dr
@mugenfd24dr 10 жыл бұрын
Honda was never really in the business to build sports cars. They built cars only to showcase tgere VTEC great motors thoo
@garikkandkhorov9840
@garikkandkhorov9840 8 жыл бұрын
just as I started to watch this video I knew it had to be the S2000 to win when I drove it I can't get it out of my mind I love it. nice comparison
@Pilkanozna4
@Pilkanozna4 11 жыл бұрын
I've lost count how many times I have seen this video.
@alexandrefernandes9233
@alexandrefernandes9233 11 жыл бұрын
Just TUNE the FRS (put a small turbo or a super charger) and all your problems are solved!
@MrMikeDao
@MrMikeDao 11 жыл бұрын
Just like with every other car in the world, put one in the van and the kids wouldn't shut up. Help me solve that problem without killing them or the performance.
@alexandrefernandes9233
@alexandrefernandes9233 11 жыл бұрын
Michael Dao www.litchfieldimports.co.uk/SUBARU/GT86-BRZ
@thingsdemystified
@thingsdemystified 11 жыл бұрын
Alexandre Fernandes I wish it were that simple. Aftermarket forced induction brings its own set of problems.
@NiTheGod
@NiTheGod 11 жыл бұрын
***** this is why i'm not going to put a turbo or supercharger on my fr-s.. maybe 10years later
@MrMikeDao
@MrMikeDao 11 жыл бұрын
NiTheGod Haha yeah, and not only that you also need to get it properly tuned so that's about another $700+ depending on your local dyno shop. You'll also run into other problems including cooling, oil cooling, oil returns, possibly relocating of A/C or oil filter or battery.
@warrenl9708
@warrenl9708 6 жыл бұрын
I bought a Toyota 86 base on your test drives and opinions and ive got to say im not disappointed. It has its limitations in power but knowing that its an easy car to love to drive.
@jhow_nicolas7964
@jhow_nicolas7964 4 жыл бұрын
I Love ALL.. BUT the RX-8 Is soo sexy and Amazing ❤👑🔥
@jvrdlc
@jvrdlc 10 жыл бұрын
this makes me want to buy a used S2000... hopefully Honda listen to the hardcore sports car loyal customers and make the successor anytime soon. From what i heard they showed up a "Concept" mini convertible to be known as the new S2000. we will see
@Choom-li
@Choom-li 10 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile we are all still waiting on a NSX.
@JustSujC
@JustSujC 10 жыл бұрын
Spectrum Dash You can afford a six figure sports car?
@Choom-li
@Choom-li 10 жыл бұрын
Derptrollz No, I'm just saying.
@TheBrownGarage
@TheBrownGarage 10 жыл бұрын
Darude - Sandstorm™ for the days long years from now when us simple folk can afford the new NSX when its considered "classic" by then lol
@only1ravager
@only1ravager 5 жыл бұрын
Love the video. I was always biased toward Toyota, but for me the Rx8 grabs me. Also agree with your statement about Honda being at their peak. I think all companies have this problem. After cars like the S2000, Gtr34, Supra, even the EvoVII companies just...fell. Where did our childhood dream cars go? But all in all love the review and the honesty. Respect to you guys.
@mynameisrits
@mynameisrits 10 жыл бұрын
Every FRS/BRZ driver drives around thinking he's fast and a badass, until he meets an S2000 on the road :P
@snowbrohk
@snowbrohk 10 жыл бұрын
i own a brz and admittedly I do feel like I m driving a fast car but whenever i see an s2000 behind me, i would switch to the slowest lane and let it pass. Sad but true:(
@mynameisrits
@mynameisrits 10 жыл бұрын
lol it's ok, BRZ's are great all around performing cars, just a lack of power, but huge aftermarket support for it
@Forbidden8th
@Forbidden8th 10 жыл бұрын
Then they both move out of the way when the 02 trans am is coming
@mynameisrits
@mynameisrits 10 жыл бұрын
... HAHAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@richthedesign
@richthedesign 7 жыл бұрын
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