Everyone Has a Tragic Backstory in Star Trek Discovery SNW Picard TNG Compilation of Tragedies

[@MajorGrin]

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[@peterahl6807]

"My dog?" "Run over by a carriage" "My goldfish?" "Eaten by the cat" "My cat?" "Choked on the goldfish..."

[@LRJ88]

"Oh, it's good to be home, ain't it, Master Robin?"

[@nah88]

"My mother?" "She died from pneumonia whilst *gasp* ...you were away"

[@eyesonthey]

Abe Lincoln!

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

".....Signed, Prince John's royal accountant, H.M.R. Blockhead."

[@rudiruttger]

I have found my people.

[@Kink_Shaman]

Harry Kim: “My parents forced me to learn the clarinet”

[@Thathumanoverthere1701]

In my pain from this, I ran to the saxophone for comfort

[@dannydevito4184]

That's a real sad backstory right there.

[@kal0247]

STD really is a depressing disease 😂

[@rh906]

@@nicotoscani1707 More like a reflecting they are trying to form. The snowflakes don't have tragic backgrounds of fee fees, they have their innate self-selfishness cranked to 9000 because society don't punish them for it anymore. The virtue signalling is an attempt to tap into that but when everyone is special, no one is.

[@professorhelmling6059]

This goes nicely with my theory: Starfleet is the release valve for people too damaged to function in the Utopia world of the Federation. They go off and join Starfleet so that society isn't destabilized. Then they die in transporter accidents.

[@adcraziness1501]

well at least we have Counselor Troi to listen to our problems and rat on us for having intrusive thoughts I swear if she brings security to my room for thoughts I cannot help again I swear I am going to lose it

[@dotseth6492]

@adcraziness1501 don't you go criticizing my counseling techniques! If you can't take it, you might consider a transfer to a cargo ship. There's alot less pressure there.

[@adcraziness1501]

@@dotseth6492 Lady I was ON A CARGO SHIP you took me from my family because we were transporting fifty cases of your favorite chocolate. I'm telling you they will not trade me for a triple TRIPLE chocolate sundae. There's no such thing as a triple triple chocolate sundae. Ok fine if I make you one, whatever it is, can I go home?

[@gene1star]

Nice theory!

[@find2hard]

@@adcraziness1501 If you can't take it on a cargo ship, you might consider a transfer to the cold dark void of space. There's a lot less pressure there.

[@michaelm54877]

Discovery Computer Voice "and then my dog died"

[@johnhancock782]

And she took the house

[@tigerbread78]

I stepped on a bee

[@TalkernateHistory]

There's a part in the novel "Jane Eyre" where a guy jokingly asks Jane what her "tale of woe is". And Jane, who has had a horrible life up to this point, says she has no tale of woe. It's a big character moment. She doesn't let the worst moments of her life define who she is. But with many of these characters, it's like they can't wait to tell all about their tragic past.

[@uberneanderthal]

show a tragic backstory and let the reader interpret its meaning rather than have the character tell it as a self-indulgent, pity-seeking sob story? huh. if only there was some kind of writing rule that addressed this, something catchy and simple, 3 words or less...

[@GaudiaCertaminisGaming]

@@uberneanderthalIndeed. The Golden Rule: 'Get Gud Riteing'.

[@nomdeplorable3362]

I stubbed my toe yesterday.

[@millerlou7294]

I am sorry, that must be so hard for you, so much loss and suffering. (everyone starts crying*)

[@NightimeInDeepSpace]

Be thankful you didn't step on a George Foreman grill.

[@Paulafan5]

Riker didn't cry like a baby bringing it up the 2 times he ever mentioned it on TNG (losing his mother). Even Wesley didn't tear up over Jack Crusher's death. Someone loses their keys on one of the newer Treks and they are in tears.

[@uberneanderthal]

how bout Thomas Riker. dude found out he's just a teleporter accident and the 'real' Riker has been living his life. he wasn't even forgotten, he essentially never-was. a shadow created by a technological error. and then he's like "welp, no sense crying about it. off to fulfill my dreams of becoming a captain."

[@Laneous14]

@@uberneanderthal The ultimate stoic: 'my entire life is a lie? Damn. Welp, guess I better get onto creating a better life than my 'father'. '

[@aperson22222]

Wesley got pretty torn up talking about his father's death in "The Bonding." That's believable: strong emotions occasionally brought to the surface when very particular sets of circumstances remind him of a trauma that he's processed the rest of the time.

[@PhillyZibit]

Shut up, Wesley. But seriously, TNG was still good. Discovery was so shit. Jeeez.

[@steveanderson6170]

Its like the characters are competing in some sort of victimhood Olympics. The USS Discovery must have an entire platoon of overworked ship's Counselors

[@Paulafan5]

Maybe that's the problem with Discovery; they didn't have a ship's counselor on-board to stop all the crying.

[@Laneous14]

Well since every single progressive man and woman are in therapy in modern times I can only imagine in the universe of Disco there must be 3.5 therapist per other person. How is this possible? Well the therapists also therapize each other.

[@tehdii]

Those cargo ships surly are popular ;]

[@StarTrekDoor]

They should try a transport ship.There's a lot less pressure there. 😄

[@StarTrekDoor]

@@Paulafan5 Prescribe them Troi's chocolate ice cream and Quark's holodeck programme, 'Vulcan Love Slave' hehe 😄

[@TheSouloftheDragon]

Don't you know: tragic backstory = character. Sure, a lot of them won't mean or lead to anything, but what do you expect the writers to do, write?

[@andrewparnell5566]

Makes you want to cry.

[@InJeffable]

Strange New Worlds at least handled the tragic backstory thing better than Discovery. Discovery had its glorified bridge extras tell the first officer their backstories as a plot device to be used later in the same episode. And of course, you have poor Airiam whose tragic backstory was told just in time for her to be killed off. Strange New Worlds actually devoted an arc to the doctor's daughter and her terminal illness.

[@randomelement5510]

It's what you might call melodrama -- focusing on exaggerated, sensationalized emotions because the writers lack the skill to tell a story with subtlety and shades of gray.

[@randomelement5510]

@@andrewparnell5566 That's why Mikey Burnout goes through a box of tissues a day

[@aonti3413]

Remember during TNG the majority of the crew had a normal backstory? Just well adjusted people looking to explore the stars. I remember 😢

[@richtea615]

Things that don't make characters interesting or compelling: 1. Having a tragic backstory 2. Being in a minority group 3. Being overly emotional 4. Being great at everything

[@PhillyZibit]

So basically everyone in discovery’s crew. Maybe that’s why it’s Treks biggest shitshow. Glad it‘s gone…

[@rh906]

@@PhillyZibit More will come.

[@PhillyZibit]

@@rh906 oO

[@steveralston8837]

There must be a blackboard with this written on it in every single writer's meeting for new Trek

[@Gaz4113]

its been three minutes and i have nearly at my limit. they can't all be so hopelessly dungeons and dragons characters.

[@uberneanderthal]

I tapped out at 1 minute 15. I need a cringe booster shot or something, my tolerance threshold is very low

[@MarkRyan-u3u]

Two minutes and twelve seconds. Enough.

[@NeoakiraIV]

To be fair old trek kinda had some back stories with tragedy …Worf had his parents , Riker had his mom that lead to daddy issues, sisko had his wife, basher had his secrets , crusher had her husband and was stuck with Wesley …..but they were all professionals about it and didn’t cry all the time and didn’t bring that baggage to work unless plot demanded it

[@SoynicVansion]

The difference is the trauma the characters in TNG went through made them stronger, not weaker. They didn’t let it define them, they moved on with optimism and maturity.

[@PhillyZibit]

But the new generation of gen z must be told that it‘s okay to be winey babies and everyone is perfectly fine wining about everything.

[@georgeray1906]

​@@PhillyZibit Not mention to utterly unprofessional, disrespect your seniors and expect everything to go your way immediately.

[@sargon6000]

The writer of "Far Beyond the Stars" mentioned in one of his YT videos that one of the former young writers for SNW told him that the studio execs forced the writing room to come up every week with new traumas for different characters. Amazing.

[@PhillyZibit]

Shame you, paramount…

[@theomimesis]

My father and mother, and my siblings, all died while watching New Trek. My life will never be the same.

[@chrispeart2896]

My tragic backstory is that I had to watch star trek discovery and it made me question my gender, my sexuality and ultimately my love of star trek!

[@PhillyZibit]

Amen…

[@georgeray1906]

My tragic backstory is seeing nearly all the most famous IPs like Star Wars, Star Trek and Doctor Who being utterly ravaged by people who thinks they're better than everyone else right before my eyes.

[@svsguru2000]

Some examples from Stargate: Jack O'Neill: son shot himself with his service pistol. surrogate son gets turned into a Goa'uld. Daniel Jackson: watched his parents getting crushed to death by egyptian statues, Wife gets turned into a Goa'uid. Teal'c: father killed by Cronus, mother assassinated in her sleep later, lifelong slave to Apophis. Sam Carter: mother killed in a car crash when she was 12. Cam Mitchell: father lost both his legs in a test flight crash, accidentally bombed a vehicle full of refugees. Vala Maldoran: sold into slavery by her parents, then turned into a Goa'uld. John Sheppard: estranged from his family, divorced, friends killed in the middle east, blames himself for not saving them. Teyla Emmagen: Parents culled by Wraith. Ronon Dex: wife and entire planet killed by the Wraith, then hunted for sport for years after. Rodney McKay: Middle name is Meredith.

[@fishjones4618]

But unlike Nu Trek, none of those characters made their tragedies their whole identity. Hell, the only time, I think, other than the Kurt Russell movie, Jack mentioned his son’s suicide was in the episode Window of Opportunity. And that was only to convince the guy using the Ancient device that trapped him and Teal’c in the time loop that he has to accept his own child’s passing, cherish their memory, and move on. No whining or crying there.

[@Ebalosus]

What about the characters in SGU (aka the best Stargate series)? Rush's wife died of cancer, Eli's mother is dying of GRID, Tamara had a miscarriage, Young's wife left him, Greer's dad was a drunk a-hole, Scott's dad was also a drunk a-hole, and Chloe's dad died in front of her eyes.

[@builder396]

@@fishjones4618 I think there were a few more mentions. The episode with the blue crystals was one, very early season 1, but youre right, on the whole they were pretty sparse and only brought up when there was a point, because O'Neill had at that point gotten over the pain and grief. Same really with most SG-1/SGA characters, and it stops dictating their lives. Except Vala, she is just a fruitcake with a whole list of unhealthy coping mechanisms.

[@fishjones4618]

@@builder396 I think that was part of Vala’s character but wasn’t all encompassing. And it helps to have a good actress who’s easy on the eyes to pull it off.

[@builder396]

@@fishjones4618 True, not saying her character was bad in that way, just that she is the only one having her issues still pretty much hanging in the breeze. And she is still more functional than all of the Discovery cast put together.

[@ranchoth]

Then, from TOS, there are Captain Kirk and Lt. Riley...who were both genocide survivors. Riley was probably the most scarred by it, losing his parents. When all his inhibitions were stripped away by polywater intoxication...he sat around, goofily singing off-key, and proclaiming that everyone should get double rations of ice cream. Horrors. Truly a shattered man.

[@MajorGrin]

and Mccoy euthanized his own father a week before a cure was found and Spock remembered his dad being racist toward him as a baby

[@uberneanderthal]

a lot of hollywood and television writers back then were war vets, including Roddenberry. they'd experienced actual stress and tragedy, and came to realize the human spirit can overcome it, and even become stronger the same way muscles become stronger through damage. today's writers are mostly spoiled, sheltered nepo-babies. so for them, any 'trauma' whatsoever is crippling and character-defining. i think that's at the core of why today's media is so inauthentic and self-indulgent.

[@paulanerruhrpott6188]

​@@MajorGrin and Kira on DS9 was basically a Holocaust survivor. And her mother slept with the enemy (Dukat) and Sisko lost his wife. Bashir was genetically altered. And all the stuff O brien went through! I guess you have to Update this list again ;-) i think you have enough stuff for a 30 Minutes megapack compilation.

[@XRichardUptonPickman]

​@@paulanerruhrpott6188I said it before and i say it again O brien took more phaser fire than the deviant during DS9. Its a miracle that his shoulder is just "bad" Not to mention the time his wife Keiko O'brien either had an alien take over or just be mad at him after he just saved the universe (again). Though Worf during tng probably had it worse and that includes the time he was trapped with Keiko. Truly traumatic even for a warrior.

[@ankaris5129]

@@XRichardUptonPickman And poor O'Brien was incarcerated for what felt like to him, 20 years real time!

[@wrayday7149]

She was written with the most tragic backstory of all...... - Wreck it Ralph

[@fakenorwegian4743]

All of this dialogue seems like it was written by a 19 year old freshman English major.

[@RoySchl]

it was

[@BoopSnoot]

with blue and pink hair

[@LtFoodstamp]

Picard: "Rene and Robert... they're... Burned to death in the fire..." *sobs* Picard, also: "Starfleet was the only family I needed" *smiles*

[@RachelWeick-iq4fr]

Different universe

[@Vipre-]

He was though specifically asked about starting a family of his own/having children. Different context entirely.

[@Woopaloops]

This single line made me furious. Though flawed, Generations is a beautiful story about grief and how to deal with loss. But what do the writers of Shitcard do? They throw it away for some cheap sequence. To them, Picard’s grief and subsequent character growth are worthless so long as they can make a reason for their shitty character to feel sad.

[@aperson22222]

The DS9 cast had it pretty rough too.

[@Paulafan5]

Jennifer Sisko being killed by the Borg (Ben and Jake), O'Brien with the Cardassian War, Kira with the Cardassian Occupation, Bashir living in fear that his genetic modifications would be made public, Odo being literally named "nothing", Quark never being able to buy his own moon.

[@joedarkness808]

at least they were likeable .. you keep hoping they could be taken as well

[@aperson22222]

@@Paulafan5It’s not as prevalent on Voyager, but Belanna had a pretty rough upbringing, Tom’s childhood wasn’t much fun, Janeway lost her father at a young age, Neelix’s entire family was killed by a superweapon, and of course Seven of Nine had a bit of trauma along the way. Though she mostly took it in stride till the PIC writers got to her.

[@Thermool]

Spot’s story is the most tragic

[@Paulafan5]

Notice how Spot's kittens are never mentioned... in the first movie, Data finds Spot and is emotional; no mention of the kittens.

[@StarTrekDoor]

Got turned into a lizard.

[@BNuts]

A character can be a ball of trauma, yet still function as a professional adult. But nobody functions when everyone's crying.

[@PhillyZibit]

Aka discovery.

[@jmwoods190]

Yet still function as a professional adult= DS9 When everybody's(constantly) crying= STD

[@tehdii]

Kurtzman is like Michael Bay of tragedy.

[@philbourque9337]

It kind of sounds like a villains monologue: I have seen countless centuries of pain and suffering that I have come to the conclusion that the pittance of joy that can be scrounged up in life is simply not worth it. And so I shall bring an end to all life and with it all suffering.

[@phantommercenary8650]

Ohh the Struggles! I can barely tolerate 2 mins of this. lol

[@StarTrekDoor]

Same here. Cheesus Christ.

[@Vipre-]

In TOS they just played the tragedies out onscreen. Kirk seeing his pregnant wife stoned to death, being forced to let a woman he loved be hit by a truck, his son murdered. McCoy pulling the plug on his father only to have a cure be found soon after.

[@damvid21]

You should have included Fajo at the end saying how actually he grew up in luxury!

[@MajorGrin]

why did he shed a tear then lol . what a crazy guy

[@damvid21]

@@MajorGrin He realised he wasn't swaying Data at all, so he just gave up trying! Crazy guy indeed, great character!

[@Mongler37]

What's my tragic past? I never got the GI Joe USS Flagg playset fir Christmas.

[@Ebalosus]

5:00 honestly I had forgotten about that particular character assassination they did to Picard's mother...

[@derleguan3472]

I simply love your Videos my Friend!

[@mds_main]

I hate this modern trend in media of having all the characters have some kind of sad tragic backstory that is also their whole personality. It is neither realistic nor interesting.

[@GetterRay]

That skin graff replication story is deranged.

[@MasterNegaTech]

And gross.

[@Ebalosus]

Pretty much all of NuTrek is deranged.

[@telix5000]

Star Trek: Depression -- holy freaking hell.

[@alternative915]

More like Star Trek Depressurize, take them to the nearest airlock!

[@PhillyZibit]

Hahaha, amen. Glad it’s over.

[@thurin84]

broken stories for broken people. theres enough tragedy in life. i want hope. hope that mankind has a better future.

[@StarTrekDoor]

Same here. Star Trek is meant to be hopeful, not this.

[@aperson22222]

Should close this out with Kirk's "I need my pain!" monologue. It was inspired by a similar sequence of events. Though at least in that case almost everyone relived their painful memories offscreen.

[@rudiruttger]

My goldifsh goldie? Eaten by the cat .... my cat? Choked on the goldfish.

[@amigang]

I was hoping the video ended with the classic Data Laughing at them all.

[@Lawfair]

A hurricane was wiping out my village while the Klingons were killing my parents and the Cardassians were raping the Klingons and I was forced to watch the whole thing over and over as I replayed the memory of my mother committing suicide because she was sick with a treatable illness that the local doctors didn't understand because were from the distant past.

[@Janx14]

I could see them all experiencing loss with the klingon war...but you get weird stuff like village healers and stuff. Like they just plucked them off some D&D backstory generator.

[@DrLynch2009]

Starfleet has become a group therapy.

[@ChrisParlett]

And poor Sisko's wife... And poor Khan's wife...

[@georgeray1906]

At least everyone with a tragic backstory throughout old Star Trek didn't let it define them and kept moving forward compared to nearly everyone in NuTrek constantly wangsting about their past.

[@threetythreepercent]

Side by side, these are hilarious. Especially with all the melodramatic music.

[@FerdinandFake]

Kevin: youre all lightweights

[@kuribayashi84]

I‘m pretty sure there is someone on the Discovery whose Dog stepped on a Bee or something.

[@PositronicDiscombobulator]

I made it to 0:37 seconds. A record for me.

[@alternative915]

👏👏👏👏

[@AndersonNeo12]

Principal: "well kids.. .. .. how do you imagine the 31th century in your future?" Kids: "spaceships, fun, happy, colors" Principal: "nope, the scool bully system stays the same"

[@StarTrekDoor]

'I was spreading butter on a piece of toast. I accidently knocked it on the floor because I wasn't concentrating. The worst part is...the piece of toast landed on the floor...*lip trembling*...butter-side down' 😢

[@nunyabitness9201]

Is this the emotional suffering Olympics? 😂

[@Guiscardr]

The TNG crew also have tragedy in their characters, that’s pretty central particularly in the early seasons: Picard: Lost his ship of 20 years in dubious circumstances Riker: fought off a mutiny during illegal experimentations that got everyone killed; also daddy issues Data: lacks true understanding of his creation; home was destroyed by huge crystal Worf: orphaned in Romulan attack Crusher: lost her husband in the line of duty. Geordie: is blind, has no game for the ladies. Troi: has Luxwanna as a mother O’Brien: PTSD from war service Wesley: lost his dad at a young age Guinan: refugee who lost homeworld to the Borg

[@bleirdo_dude]

Data: I have family issues.

[@thecaptain6730]

My God….

[@Bertiesghost]

Star Trek: Victimhood

[@Peaceforall20111]

Excellent compilation and factually accurate ❤

[@cha02psc]

I relate to these characters *SO HARD* because of how good the writing in these shows are. IM LITERALLY CRYING RIGHT NOW

[@michaelcarbone6101]

I only knew of one of these tragedies, Tasha Yar.

[@Patricia599]

even Spock now - he's dyslexic, was bullied by everyone on Vulcan, ends up in a mental institution after hallucinating, is abandoned by his father who refuses to accept his choice to go to Starfleet, gets dumped by T'Pring AND Chapel who does it in song in front of their crew. Not one single person in Starfleet comes from a normal loving family. I hate to break it to the writers but these kinds of people generally do not function well.

[@007REAPER007]

Weird the Klingons took longer with her mom considering she wasnt there apparently. If Picards mom hung herself when she was young, how did he recognize her so old on the Enterprise D?

[@Caidoe_Esthov]

They took longer trying to find her mom and eventually gave up! 😆

[@captainspire9094]

Wow. Gezz...they really all did, didn't they?

[@CaptainM792]

0:50 “My town was wiped out by a hurricane” Me: “Why wasn’t it dissipated by the weather modification net?”

[@Theottselmaster]

Wesley: I was told to shutup.... *Crys*

[@PhillyZibit]

Hahahaha

[@MichaelAarons1701]

Was expecting maybe some Neelix what with the metrion cascade; Kira finding out about her mother; Sisko and his wife, “I see her like this, every time I close my eyes. In the darkness, in the blink of an eye, I see her like this.“; there’s O’Brien’s speech about hating Cardassians; but most importantly, Kirk’s I need my pain speech at Sybok and everything that goes with it from _Star Trek V._

[@BasedF-15Pilot]

The script is an 80's twang country music lyric. 🎶 Mah dawg died todaaay, mah wife left me for anutha maaaaannn... 🎶

[@pepperVenge]

So everyone in nu Trek is a victim.

[@randomelement5510]

Shut up! You don't understand. You can't know my pain. You can't judge me. I can be obnoxious, rude, insubordinate and reckless but you can't demote me or relieve me of duty. If you try I'll make you feel guilty and no one on the ship will speak to you. And you want everyone to like you, right? -- that's what every good commander wants.

[@georgeray1906]

​@@randomelement5510 Said no one with a functioning brain.

[@uberneanderthal]

in general, this is just lazy character development and obnoxiously trite. but in star trek it becomes outright stupidity. "my town was wiped out by hurricane"? I guess the local weatherman was out sick that week.

[@badwolf66]

Holly: Everybody's Dead Dave!

[@StarTrekDoor]

Lister: 'Ya what? Even Holister?'

[@danielkubin3878]

Hmm, Sybok would have lot of work with these people xD.

[@andresarmento7227]

At least no one was eaten by zombies, right! That's a plus.

[@steveanderson6170]

"We were so poor, we couldn't even afford zombies"

[@bl8danjil]

Does the Borg count?

[@Yasuda9000]

​​​​​@@bl8danjil They are the closest thing to zombies in space. However unlike zombies, when you are assimilated by the Borg, there is a chance to be unassimalated and return mostly back to normal. Edit: There is also the Kobali. They find recently deceased bodies of other species and uses some virus to bring the deceased person back to life but it also turns them into a Kobali. They do this because this is the only way they can prevent their people from going extinct because their ancestors did some sort of experiment that caused their people to become sterile. The revived go through some process to forget their old lives and begin their new lives but some remember their past lives and try to return to it as shown in Star Trek Voyager. In Star Trek Online, The Elachi also create more of their own by using other species using fungis since they are mushroom-like aliens. Like the Last of Us's Cordyceps zombies. Like the Kobali, the transformed individual can remember their life before they were turned. However unlike the Kobali, it seems to possible change back to their old bodies. The Elachi made one appearance in the Star Trek shows and it was in Star Trek Enterprise but they had no name at the time and they don't speak. Only the ones that start to remember their previous lives are able to speak. There was an extinct alien race in Star Trek Enterprise that created a virus that turned any other species that visited their homeworld into them. Captain Johnathan Archer, Hoshi Sato, and Malcolm Reed were temporarily turned into this species. T'pol was also exposed to the same virus but it had a difficult time turning her. Apparently Vulcan DNA is hard to change. They were changed back to normal near the end when Phlox was able to create a cure to help change them back. He also gave the cure to an alien species that killed any individual who turned into this extinct species because they saw it as a plague and danger to everyone, but with the cure, they won't have kill any more people. One sample of the virus still exist at the end of the episode as Phlox got the sample from T'pol since she was mostly herself and only very slight facial change from the virus. Phlox showed Archer the sample and asked him what he should due with it. Archer told him to keep it in cold storage instead of destroying it. Phlox asked if it was a good idea. Archer didn't want to wipe out this virus of this extinct species because they were in the Delphic Expanse at the time to stop the Xindi from destroying Earth becaue they believe that humans would wipe them out in the future and if he destroyed the last sample of this species he would be proving the Xindi that humans are a threat to them. He figured that that they keep this virus sample around as a way to keep the last remains of this species around.

[@LotarL31]

They missed out on Amber Heard being in Star trek Discovery. She's bad at acting and has bad stories too. "My dog stepped on a bee."

[@glytchd]

Yay! If you don't have some horrible thing in your past then you're not normal! Gosh I miss the 90s

[@millerlou7294]

Still can't get over how they have to make Picard's mother kill herself just to make the show more interesting which also failed.

[@jakubkovac346]

Yes, but didn’t old Star Trek do the same? B’ellana Torres, Chakotay, Tom Paris, captain Archer, Travis, all had father issues. I just watched an ep of TNG and Dr. Crusher shared a sad story from her childhood, we got a whole episode dedicated to Tuvok’s childhood and his struggles and I could go on. It’s just old Star Trek has many seasons and many episodes so it’s spread out.

[@MarkRyan-u3u]

I can only speak about TOS, which is my Star Trek. We didn't know a lot about the backstories of the main TOS characters except Spock. For the most part, the characters seemed well-adjusted and capable of dealing with crisis situations. The mood of TOS was very optimistic. That optimism was a very welcome philosophy during the frightening times of the Cuban Missile Crisis and the Cold War and the threat of nuclear holocaust.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

Sulu, Scotty, Kim, Boimler, Uhura, Chekov & Chapel didn't have tragic backstories or horrible childhoods.

[@wenaolong]

"I was run through many septillions of rigorous training simulations to ensure that the organoid components in my AI metatronic quantum-augmented computation array, feeling all the pains of hell and pleasures of heaven to augment that process. For each timeline of a forgotten Q-continuum."

[@WheelLock]

needed like a character with no trauma to watch all this happen IC and reply, "I uh... stubbed my toe... once?"

[@nah88]

Make up a weirdly plot specific adversity. Have character overcome said adversity. Have 'Michael' cry. Rinse and repeat. Top writing!

[@196cupcake]

Picard, Borg, family: the Borg are an analogy for addiction. Picard's "I couldn't stop them": it messes with him that hard because he thinks he's more disciplined than everyone else but he's still just human, so vulnerable to the same addictive mechanisms that work on everyone else. Why would the Borg reinvent the wheel? It makes a lot more sense for their nanites to leverage the bio reward mechanisms already there. The biology is probably very similar species to species. That's why the Federation was so skeptical of Picard in First Contact: because they knew it was more "Picard chose to help the Borg because he was addicted to them" than "the Borg forced Picard to help them."

[@RachelWeick-iq4fr]

Nope, that is literally not how it works in the old shows , the Borg override the persons free will , leaving their memory intact , but suppressed to the collective , without the subspace neural link Captain Picard could have fought back, Star trek Voyager-Survival instinct, showed that . When the borg cube crashed and it's vinculium was damaged there wasn't enough borg still alive to keep the collective thought pattern going ,the survivors started to get their own memories/personality back , Seven was the only one who didn't reject being Borg ( so not exactly addictive )as she had been raised by them from a child and thought as a Borg , she thought as a Borg , her strongest free memories were as a child being terrified, and alone and she reacted as that child , she didn't want to be alone ,she chose the Borg because she was afraid to be alone like a child , and like a child went back to her abusers because she knew no difference ,still not an addiction. Seven chose freely ,not as a Borg to inject the other side of the others brains and made them a mini collective , that made them obedient to her till the Borg returned for them But that link also helped them escape the Borg as they now had 2 collectives /voices in their head ,which gave them a version of free will ,a separate voice to hear . they couldn't distinguish between their 3 personalities/voices and they couldn't just chose for that link to break, ,( unlike in Star trek Picard )no matter how much they wanted to ,and they really wanted too, The Doctor had to find away to break that link for them and it also killed them , but they wanted their freedom of thought ,their free will ,more than a long life , People can't just choose to leave the collective, because they can't make a choice at all, their own thoughts were taken/ suppressed by the collective, the collective will being their only thought, They had no free will ,non, unlike in star trek Picard The Borg queen tried to make Captain Picard different, she wanted him to be like her ,Borg but the centre processor of the Borg as a counterpart, with some version of free will , but he fought her , he fought her so hard she had to make him a drone just like the rest ( Star trek first contact) with his free will over ridden , his personality suppressed. When Data linked with him it created a separate voice / collective which Captain Picard was able to use to break away ,just like the three did in Voyager. The sharing of thoughts is made out to be enjoyable in another Voyager borg story but also very dangerous as the free Borg( the cube once again damaged it's vinculium off )used it to first heal Chakotay,and then later override his free will to their collective will , but their control wore off , without nono probs or the subspace link and at no point was he addicted/ seeking more of it ,so no at no point is it made out to be an addiction ,other than Star trek Picard and that's a different timeline, the writers themselves made it a different timeline . There is a next generation show where the crew and Captain Picard were taken over by an addiction, it's called" The Game" and the addiction is cured at the end

[@epockismet76]

😭 sings type o negative, "Everyone I Love Is... Dead" 😭😭😭😭 I picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue 🤪

[@StarTrekDoor]

'Remember when you were at school and you were climbing that wall...' George Lucas: 'It's like poetry it rhymes.'

[@xbman1]

That pin up is funny 😂😂😂

[@johnnydoe7616]

Therapists would make a fortune in the Star Trek universe

[@TheNinjaMarmot]

Even the Ferengi had a tragic story. He bet money on this show making profit. *you missed the tragic story behind the waterbear. These Starfleet people were evil.

[@spikedpsycho2383]

Everyone has a tragic backstory in DSC/SNW/PIC uhh TNG: - Picard stabbed in Chest, Lost love of his life Cafe De Artiste, Geriatric family, suicidal mother, Luddite family - RIker: Dead mom, restrictive dad - Worf: Family massacred, lived adult life in shame - Geordi: BLIND at birth, Dead mother DS9: - Sisko: Wife killed at 359 - Kira: 10 years paramilitary terrorist group

[@georgeray1906]

Yes but the difference being that the latter didn't let the tragedies have a hold on them and kept their optimisim high while the former are obsessed with how sad their past was as well as behaving like major edgelords.

[@rippingbag]

I just can’t stop crying. 😢

[@SynchronicityScenario144]

My feelings were hurt today.

[@dylangrizzle]

6:50 Poor Alexander, that's a tragic one for sure.

[@glytchd]

They want to warp normality. Everyone's crazy and never learns to cope!

[@negativezero8174]

I love how in the super future where cancer is cured and food is infinite they still have towns get destroyed by hurricanes lol

[@NitpickingNerd]

and there's weather modification technology . on Risa they can use a remote to make it rain or make it stop at the press of a button

[@GilesMcRiker]

Narratives of victimization and hegemonic oppression are fundamental to the woke consciousness. it's similar to the concept of original sin except that the sin was committed not by, but rather, upon them

[@hardy83]

Ugh... People need to stop conflating "woke" with shit writing. Shows like Orville, Expanse and others are just as progressive but aren't written like a moron who did it the night before and asked a poorly made AI to write the scripts for them.

[@GilesMcRiker]

​@@hardy83I think the Orville is a pretty badly written show, myself-- wholly derivative not even just of Star Trek but of parodies such as Galaxy Quest. Well I can't say that I've seen much of it, it too also seems to suffer from wokeness, a movement you don't seem to quite understand. Namely, the core principles and features wokeness include, among other things are 1) the belief among its believers that it is the supreme and ultimate ideology to which every person, institution, organization and principle is subordinate.; and 2) the insistence on immediate, onstant and NeverEnding evangelism, public protest and radical activism. A woke screenwriter necessarily subordinates all interests, --including the drafting and development of a high quality script-- to the principles of wokeness.

[@patrick_j_lee]

0:50 How the heck did this guy's hometown get destroyed by a hurricane? Did the climate control system malfunction?

[@MarkRyan-u3u]

It was a special hurricane moving through subspace at faster-than-light speed - - you know, like the special supernova wave that destroyed Romulus. 🥸

[@wwiiinplastic4712]

I've actually never watched the show as the stills and short clips alone drove me away, but at 3:15 Sleestaks?

[@ZachAJ77]

No DS9? Sisko, Kira, O'Brien (although that was more during the series)

[@NobodyNothing-f5c]

You should make a video on Sisko ruining peoples relationships, or the Federation being state mandated suffering at the hands of xenos. Threw his own gf in prison for Cardassia, Quark's gf in prison for Cardassia, putting Kimiko in danger by letting an O'Brien clone live with her, letting Miles suffer and develop ptsd, frowning on Jake crushing on a dabo girl, etc all culminating in using the Obsidian Order to beat the Dominion. Eddington and the Maquis did nothing wrong.

[@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays]

It's all so sad, they're all so stunning and brave.😂

[@FoxWolf87]

It'd probably be faster to list all the primary characters who don't have tragic backstories in Star Trek. Let's see... there's... Leonard McCoy Montgomery Scott Hikaru Sulu Pavel Chekov Quark Harry Kim The Doctor Tuvok T'Pol Malcolm Reed Charles Tucker Phlox Hoshi Sato With this information we learn... somehow... that the command crew of the NX-01 is the most emotionally stable crew in the history Starfleet.

[@NitpickingNerd]

Mccoy euthanized his own father . and a week later they discovered a cure for his illness

[@Clonest]

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