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Everyone is a Powerlifting Coach | Is that GOOD or BAD?

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Alan Thrall

Alan Thrall

Күн бұрын

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@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
No need to pay for coaching, just post your training online and everyone will tell you how bad your form is for free.
@barbellgardener
@barbellgardener 2 жыл бұрын
That's so true. Lol
@jelania
@jelania 2 жыл бұрын
LOL on god
@NAVEENCHAURASIYAA
@NAVEENCHAURASIYAA 2 жыл бұрын
Why thrall got smoll 🧐
@taylorsj13
@taylorsj13 2 жыл бұрын
True.
@ginjaedgy49
@ginjaedgy49 Жыл бұрын
lmao
@Leviathani1
@Leviathani1 2 жыл бұрын
The problem isn’t members offering help to new comers. It’s the kids who’ve been lifting for 6 months trying to be a coach and telling more experienced lifters that they’re doing something wrong and need their program. That’s what’s making it a meme. Everyone wants to be an influencer now and no one puts in the work to learn how to actually coach. They apply they’re program made for them to everyone forgetting about different body types, genetics, and everything else.
@puncherdavis9727
@puncherdavis9727 2 жыл бұрын
I am with Kyle here I was 51 when I went back into the gym and that was after being out of the gym for 33 years. I went in there for two days and realized I was going to need a trainer and I hired one for 3 months. But mind you I looked at his resume as well he had three years of training he was 26 he was fit and in shape had a great attitude and was a good motivator and help me develop form over the next 3 months. I have seen the guys that walk in with muscles that tell you how to do things but then I go watch either you or Jeff nippard or a t h l e a n x or John Meadows and realize they're full of crap and they're sitting there pumping concentrics as fast as they can with no eccentric downplay for muscle building. I also made sure my trainer was certified and he was at the Ace Program and he's going to get the other one now. And I have watched tons and tons and tons and tons of videos and read the whole Ace training platform books twice. So it's your responsibility to learn how to coach yourself and to become informed about what you're getting involved in. Otherwise you leave yourself open to another person's opinion not based on science not based on a reality of how muscles work nutrition recovery and all that. So for the most part I don't have people come up and talk to me because to be honest with you I know as much as a coach I've ever met as far as the science goes for me it's more about forum mind muscle connection nutrition and Recovery that I constantly have to work on
@bakpakmark9687
@bakpakmark9687 2 жыл бұрын
More broadly, the internet has paved the way for a generation whose culture is to share an embarassing amount of unsolicited advice on almost every topic.
@382u3uuej
@382u3uuej 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think that you need to have a certain level of results in order to try to coach people on powerlifting, you can use a website for one rep max calculators which divides lifters by: novice, begginer, intermediate, advanced and elite. If you are not in the advanced category you shouldn't be coaching, if you are an influencer rather than trying to make some money selling your uninformed advice(or more likely a program made by someone else) just redirect your viewers to programs made by people who know what they are talking about, but that's not gonna happen because money. I have been lifting for a year and my numbers are between sligthly above intermediate for most lifts and I still wouldn't coach people, you should prove yourself first for a matter of honesty and respect for your clients. At the end of the day it's a free market I guess so it's up to the buyers, it's not that we don't want new people in the gym we don't like unqualified people coaching and giving bad advice.
@daniel1RM
@daniel1RM 2 жыл бұрын
Thats always happened and will always happen in all areas of improvement
@PunchNugget
@PunchNugget 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's a similar point to cold calling. If someone needs help, they will seek the help, don't go out of your way as a coach and say YOU NEED THIS!
@fsmoura
@fsmoura 2 жыл бұрын
5:24 I tried to approach the 350-pound pit bull in the gym but he just yelled at me: _"TRAAAAIN UNCOAAAAAAACHED!!"_
@ilariabeechey-newman3653
@ilariabeechey-newman3653 2 жыл бұрын
Most underrated comment
@Baboonery_
@Baboonery_ Жыл бұрын
@@ilariabeechey-newman3653 agreed lmao
@Steve-sp4rx
@Steve-sp4rx 2 жыл бұрын
No problems with people selling their programs on their social media either. To the consumer, like with all things you purchase, be aware of the quality of that which you are buying.
@bobbyb4024
@bobbyb4024 2 жыл бұрын
Johnny sins?
@yazilliclick
@yazilliclick 2 жыл бұрын
It can be very hard to know the quality of what you'll be getting before purchase on many of these is the problem with that.
@oz_jones
@oz_jones 2 жыл бұрын
@@yazilliclick Especially if you are just starting out. But you should do your due diligence and research beforehand, like with every purchase.
@Wayf4rer
@Wayf4rer 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyb4024 Who knew he was also a powerlifter
@yazilliclick
@yazilliclick 2 жыл бұрын
@@oz_jones I mean even if you research. Most of these guys don't allow sharing of any details of their programs and their reviews tend to be over inflated by they social media followers. So getting a real accurate sense of the 'product' is almost impossible.
@fsmoura
@fsmoura 2 жыл бұрын
8:45 That's what I tell all my clients. _"You can't start powerlifting until you are able to reach a state of being in which you are one with the iron atoms in the plates. In order to lift the metal, you need to become the metal . . . Now go paint my fence and polish my truck. I'll tell you when you're ready."_ * They also need to demonstrate a thorough and erudite knowledge of 80s thrash metal, so as to be able to properly soundtrack their lifting sessions the correct way.
@richardsanchez9190
@richardsanchez9190 2 жыл бұрын
At my gym the owner does that, but without the painting and polishing, that's a little weird to be honest bro, he blindfolds you makes you balance a bucket on your head then tell you it's time for your protein shake. Out of the box training.
@Johnny547611
@Johnny547611 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I listen to country music or pop punk when I'm in the gym. Maybe need to get some Megadeth to bump up my squat
@richardsanchez9190
@richardsanchez9190 2 жыл бұрын
@@Johnny547611 I've heard a squat plug can help.
@Johnny547611
@Johnny547611 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardsanchez9190 nah ill stick to Johnny Cash
@willjaeger1878
@willjaeger1878 2 жыл бұрын
@@Johnny547611 Rust In Peace is ANABOLIC brother
@szneka12
@szneka12 2 жыл бұрын
Step #1: Take roids Step #2: Become a "coach" Step #3: Charge money for your "services" Step #4: Profit
@ahappyimago
@ahappyimago 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the new fitness model!
@josephs.7496
@josephs.7496 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the Greg Duchette model
@spiritual_fitness
@spiritual_fitness 2 жыл бұрын
How come coath Bloho couldn't profit then? 🤔
@ahappyimago
@ahappyimago 2 жыл бұрын
Spiritual Fitness because even with roids he looks like a slob
@col6993
@col6993 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephs.7496 Duchette is an IFBB pro, hold a sumo deadlift world record and has published a bunch of cook books. You might not like him but hes done a bit more then 'take gear and profit'
@kurtrummelface
@kurtrummelface 2 жыл бұрын
Just because you pull big numbers or have a ton of experience, doesn't mean you are a good coach or teacher. Some people that are good at what they do, suck at interacting and teaching other people. I see this in business, maybe you bake really good pies and bake goods, doesn't mean you know how to or should run a bakery business.
@wadelowther2993
@wadelowther2993 2 жыл бұрын
This is true, but it makes sense (as Matt Wenning points out) to find a seriously jacked individual that has walked the walk with qualifications and a good client base.
@guttsu
@guttsu 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. And even if someone is big or strong, that doesn't even mean they know the best way to do it. Renaissance Periodization has a great video with Mike and Jared, interviewing Jared about his Road to IFBB Pro. He said you would be amazed at how few people near that level really have a clue about proper workout structure or anything. They either have great genetics, or PED response, or both. Or maybe it took them 15 years to get to that point, but they could've gotten there in 10 or less if they knew how to program properly. It's just a truth that some people get results DESPITE their knowledge, not because of it.
@gantoniopatriarca9520
@gantoniopatriarca9520 2 жыл бұрын
@@guttsu I remember that video. I am even inclined to take it a bit further and say that it might be beneficial to find someone with crap genetics who is painfully average at lifting, because to get there they could not rely on genetics. They had to learn what actually works and apply it far more consistently.
@Alexor715
@Alexor715 2 жыл бұрын
@@guttsu Indeed, if I would be 'roided up to roof, I would be jacked as hell too. But that doesn't mean I could do a single squat right...
@floydb6592
@floydb6592 2 жыл бұрын
Some food for thought…I was a pretty competitive swimmer for 10+ years. One of my coaches got to know mark spitz long after his retirement as a professional. Spitz had been asked to do some coaching sessions for some swimmers. He ended up just not being good at coaching at all. He wasn’t able to really able to give feedback on technique or how to program effective practices. On the other hand, I’ve had coaches that trained several well placing Olympic trials athletes(and a ton of big10; Pac12, etc bound swimmers as well) that weren’t swimmers themselves. The ability to coach well in any given field requires a lot more than accolades and a history in that sport; some people are just better suited to coaching effectively. I think super top level competitors often don’t make great coaches, trainers, etc because for most the bulk of their success can be attributed to genetical predisposition and a natural aptitude at any given sport. I’m not discounting how crazy hard they work, I trained along side those kids going to trials and busted my ass as much as they did, but I just didn’t have the cards on the table to succeed to that degree.
@jumpingjackflash8270
@jumpingjackflash8270 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard that the peak athletes at their sport tend to be bad coaches because they are genetically gifted, and they have trouble understanding people that aren't as gifted. Wayne Gretzky - greatest hockey player of all time was a terrible coach when he got behind the bench. I also heard a strongman (Mitchell Hooper) say recently that if you want to learn something, don't go to the person who has always done it well, because they often don't know why they do it well... instead, find someone who used to be bad or mediocre at something and they worked and got better.
@MollymaukT
@MollymaukT 2 жыл бұрын
Mark Rippetoe is the same thing, great coach, wasn’t an amazing powerlifter
@tayloriousmaximus
@tayloriousmaximus 2 жыл бұрын
Dan Hipkiss is another great example. Not a strength competitor, but the motherfucker coached Tom Stoltman to 2 WSM victories and Luke Stoltman to several big wins as well
@corbinhulsewe
@corbinhulsewe Жыл бұрын
My favorite swim coaches I had were two dads who never swam in their life but had kids that did. One was a former track sprinter who couldn’t understand why his son who mainly swam the 50 and 100 was doing entirely the same workouts as kids who mainly swam the mile, so they started a team more geared toward specification in short distance.
@silkecarina991
@silkecarina991 Жыл бұрын
Yesss I experienced that with my coach. 5 times national powerlifting champion but she just didn’t really adapted the program to my specific needs, didn’t get my numbers up in 6 months. I’m training by myself again for 2 months now and really increased in strength and size again.
@raj33600
@raj33600 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is teaching is a skill and not every powerlifting coach is a good teacher , i mean they can SBD heavy, but can they actually understand my problem and give me a proper solution
@SueRosalie
@SueRosalie 2 жыл бұрын
yes and we see this in all sports. Someone with gifted genetics and high achievement in a sport isn't necessarily a good teacher who understands the average person
@poolkrooni
@poolkrooni 2 жыл бұрын
There's a similar fallacy with bad coaches having great athletes. Just because you are the coach of a successful athlete does not make you an amazing coach. I'm not saying it can't be true, it's just not always a direct correlation.
@29slowjoe
@29slowjoe 2 жыл бұрын
@@poolkrooni Most coaches are good at the elite level of sports but they aren't always the right fit for an athlete.
@poolkrooni
@poolkrooni 2 жыл бұрын
@@29slowjoe great point!
@planningandpowerlifting
@planningandpowerlifting 2 жыл бұрын
This old lady learned lifts from you on KZbin! I also used a lot of free programs. I just ordered a customized program because I have to work around arthritis and because I want to financially support a friend. Plus I know she will kick my ass and keep me in line!
@HammerAksGaming
@HammerAksGaming Жыл бұрын
W
@robertlevy4613
@robertlevy4613 2 жыл бұрын
It’s also been awesome to watch Alan’s progression as a Coach over the years. He’s continued to grow and it’s awesome. It’s okay to change your mind about stuff!
@theshadow6273
@theshadow6273 2 жыл бұрын
Love the last piece of advice "..it's..powerlifting" basically it's not rocket science. If you have a basic understanding of the fundamentals it's pretty hard to not see some degree of success. Also being around other people who are experienced lifters is always helpful for when you're starting out.
@richardpeterson4440
@richardpeterson4440 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve written programs for less experienced lifters. I really want strongman to grow and try to help my interested friends by training them out of my garage. I don’t charge anything and mostly think of myself as a more experienced training partner. It’s fun and rewarding.
@2jz4me25
@2jz4me25 2 жыл бұрын
Alan thrall, your channel is absolute gold. The substantive info you give is easily one of the best on KZbin.
@jeremymenning56
@jeremymenning56 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Alan. I was in the DC airport recently and thought I saw you. Hadn't seen you with the new hair so glad I didn't walk up to a complete stranger and grunt out "Train Untamed!!!!!" Phewww.
@castlebilliards8712
@castlebilliards8712 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it's all too common now . You have crackpots walking around one day believing they are a mercenary and then suddenly waking up out of the blue one morning deciding they are now a "strength coach"
@yonatanalony4233
@yonatanalony4233 2 жыл бұрын
i'm not a power lifter, i'm training and coaching thai boxing for the last 9 years and supplement my training with some powerlifting basics and calisthenics. even though its not my main sport, i must say that for me you're the best coach i've found online. your atitude, knowlage, honasty and prespective are rare! you help'd me so much that the least i can do is letting you know about it. wish you the best!!
@adityashah5597
@adityashah5597 2 жыл бұрын
Can you revisit Squat and Bench Press like you did with deadlift? You've improved my deadlift form greatly and I'm forever thankful. Take care.
@davidec.4021
@davidec.4021 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah dude
@seanseanston
@seanseanston 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I wouldn't mind some cues for how to position/hold the bar for a high bar squat. I'm not always sure if I'm creating the shelf properly or if it's supposed to rest more snugly than it does at times. I feel most tutorials don't give explain it in much detail.
@carmelquarney157
@carmelquarney157 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanseanston This would be amazing esp trap bar ....... bracing
@pippen6606
@pippen6606 2 жыл бұрын
He did it for the squat already
@Joe_Pittard
@Joe_Pittard 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that video busted my two year deadlift plateau, hit a 30lb PR out of the gate.
@GutsBatman
@GutsBatman 2 жыл бұрын
I had no illusion of making money when I decided to start writing a blog about lifting and things connected to it a year ago (as of earlier this week). It has 33 subscribers and some people outside them read it. I did it as a way to offshoot the lifting thoughts in my head from my ten years of lifting and last 2 of far more serious lifting because I don't have a lot of people to discuss this stuff with as often as I like. I have found that writing twice a week in addition to a weekly training log has really helped me focus my time and energy into lifting better. It keeps me on a schedule. I haven't done anywhere near this kind of writing since college way back in 2008. I like being to help out where and how I can in the information space. It's my way of being a team player in this game.
@youngsuit
@youngsuit Жыл бұрын
the problem isn't the growth of the sport, it's that the lack of standards people have make it so that bad coaches can scam people, get people hurt, or saturate the market into a bad name. that being said a lot of the best coaches aren't the best athletes but the people who have had to work through a lot of challenges.
@JaimeG88
@JaimeG88 2 жыл бұрын
I met a guy at the gym who said his brother is a powerlifting coach. I got excited and asked him about his squat programming, thinking I could learn something, but he didn't even have an answer. Same with another guy I met at the gym; he says he is a competitive powerlifter, but he could not tell me anything about his squat programming. At least this dude was squatting 410+ at 158 lb bodyweight. For my part, I'm still doing Starting Strength; Monday Friday squat heavy; Wednesday light day; goal is 3x3 since 3x5 at 290 lbs is too much volume for my old ass to recover from twice a week.
@TyroneSweigart
@TyroneSweigart 2 жыл бұрын
You Tell'Em
@arteksta1943
@arteksta1943 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer strength training. Unless your competing just train to get stronger like starting strength
@andyrichardson2968
@andyrichardson2968 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with coaching differences. If you play/coach any team sport there are vast differences in styles and philosophy
@drewbeta01
@drewbeta01 2 жыл бұрын
Just because someone is new doesn't mean that they don't know what they're talking about. I've only been lifting for about 4 years total, but I research the hell out of everything that I pick up. I made friends with the strongest guy at my last gym, and helped him fix his deadlift. He's told me that he's been deadlifting pain free ever since. He's also told me that I should start coaching because he sees that I'm smart about training. I would never coach because I have a career in something more lucrative, but I don't see why someone else with a couple years of experience shouldn't. Look at the trainers at most commercial gyms. Most of them are just paid rep counters.
@Jonathanjurewicz
@Jonathanjurewicz 2 жыл бұрын
Haha! Your impression of Austin at the end is great. “It’s powerlifting. (Eye roll).”
@TheAdamk12
@TheAdamk12 2 жыл бұрын
Powerlifting is mostly a recreational sport, like golf. As long as people aren't getting hurt or scammed, I think people should try their hand at coaching.
@TheAdamk12
@TheAdamk12 2 жыл бұрын
It’s also good to make money
@Yeomannn
@Yeomannn 2 жыл бұрын
DM me for coaching brother. We do programming, nutrition, and stretching.
@BulkBrogan.
@BulkBrogan. 2 жыл бұрын
I personally think people should learn to train themselves EliteFTS, Westside Barbell, Juggernaut Training Systems, Renaissance Periodization There's so so many resources online with thousands of articles and they all have dozens of books and manuals they recommend You can get such high level knowledge if you know where to look But then again I do agree with the sentiments in this video
@pricerowland
@pricerowland 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a refreshing take. Communities are built on the sharing of information and ideas. I just did a bikepacking trip with my buddy last week, and *everyone* had something to offer, whether it was a recommendation, a location to find water, or just a Clif bar. That's what relationships are built on and it makes subcultures stronger.
@rechamp1
@rechamp1 2 жыл бұрын
You bring up a good point with some powerlifters not being approachable. Im not one to go out and talk to everyone at the gym, but if someone seems friendly I will tell them nice squat or whatever. I don't get the people who are rude and use the "in the zone" excuse every time
@bofadeez5482
@bofadeez5482 2 жыл бұрын
“In the zone” that’s some corny BS, it’s just them being egotistical with their momentary pseudo God complex.
@mistaowickkuh6249
@mistaowickkuh6249 2 жыл бұрын
- Good day sir. I applied for the powerlifting coach position. - Welcome friend have a seat. Would you like anything to drink. - No thank you, I just had my pre-workout. - Alright. **gets a piece of paper out of his pocket** Could you please read the number on the paper for me? - Umm... F-F- Fahve? - You're hired.
@ora6925
@ora6925 2 жыл бұрын
Well said! Though I have to say, the "TRAIN UNTAMMMEEEDDDEEHH" hits less hard with the short hair 😢
@ramonkroes325
@ramonkroes325 2 жыл бұрын
For someone who lives in a small town in the netherlands with no real powerlifting gym in the area but wanting to powerlift the online knowledge these days is amazing. When I started 5 years back I had a hard time finding stuff but after using ebooks, videos and different online sources I can now help the young guys in my gym! I don't ask for money I just give them help as they are in the spot I was in 5 years back. I love that powerlifting is growing even here! No one did it when I started and now all the young guys want to do it, even girls! Im not strong or big I just love lifting weights and training like a powerlifter and love that there are others that also do.
@bangscutter
@bangscutter 2 жыл бұрын
In my local commercial gym, not every tom dick and harry is allowed to coach in the gym. They must have done a personal trainer course and show their certificate. There are also liability, insurance and legal issues to consider as well. You don't want your client suing you bankrupt if they injure themselves while you coach them.
@ChrisP3000x
@ChrisP3000x 2 жыл бұрын
At the very least trainers need to have their own liability insurance, and a contract should be signed by both in regards to the facility. The problem now is that after documenting his position publicly in this video, he can't claim ignorance (of what is going on in his gym since he has now authorized it), so (depending on state/local law) he is now responsible for the actions of others.
@wadelowther2993
@wadelowther2993 2 жыл бұрын
This is the key point. Anyone can call themselves a coach and I wouldn't advise anyone to go offering programmes unless they have a recognised qualification. Just because a guy is strong and been lifting forever doesn't mean he knows how to teach others safely.
@TCA17
@TCA17 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone can injure themselves at any point, being changed by any other person. That part of the argument makes no sense
@wadelowther2993
@wadelowther2993 2 жыл бұрын
@TCA17 A PT typically carries out a detailed assessment of a client's readiness to train and insurance. This normally includes a questionnaire about a client's health issues and previous experience. People can obviously injure themselves at any point, but if I give a beginner a crazy volumr programme like Smolov without considering their abilities and previous medical history, that's just reckless. If I'm charging for it, unless I include a ton of legal disclaimers, that's asking for a negligence law suit.
@2jz4me25
@2jz4me25 2 жыл бұрын
This guy should have 2 million subscribers.
@allismg5691
@allismg5691 2 жыл бұрын
Another banger from Adam Paul 😤 Let’s keep breaking down these barriers to physical activity 🤝
@BluegillGreg
@BluegillGreg 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Allan. Right on. I train at home, but I did go through a tour at our regional multi-gym chain, and they have indeed put in squat racks, nice barbells, and Eleiko bumpers. And thank you for your online help over the years. I'd been lifting through the decades when most information was in muscle rags written by and for juiced bodybuilders. You've really increased my knowledge, growth, and safety. A couple of years ago I did get some in-person coaching on Snatch and Clean & Jerk from an excellent coach, well worth it. I also enjoy your Strongman content. We used to lift overhead in friendly competitions as kids in the 1970s. That Strongman stuff is really fun. Again, thanks!
@jacobgarcia2660
@jacobgarcia2660 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who lifted weights for 8 years I’ve had people ask me to show them how to lift, specially for powerlifting I would gladly show them but always say this is how I learned to lift this is what works for me and what works for me might not work for you. I miss when powerlifting was more about lifting and not about recording lifts and posting it on instagram to show off but that’s just my opinion. I don’t like how everyone thinks they’re a coach because they’ve done one meet or a couple
@justinat2
@justinat2 2 жыл бұрын
On the flipside you can have someone selling a program that isn’t well built and the people who buy it don’t get good results or injure them selves and get turned off by powerlifting.
@dragonslayer_fitness
@dragonslayer_fitness 2 жыл бұрын
Love this, you bring up some great points 💪
@markoviitanen2671
@markoviitanen2671 Жыл бұрын
There is also a factor, that not everyone is genetically blessed and because of that, can not lift crazy numbers, EVEN if their knowledge would be great and even if they would be a great coach. I have also coached in 5 sports, and being a good coach is not the same thing as being able to perform well. Some people are just better in coaching and some are not. Even some people who get really good results, don't necessary make a good coaches. Coaching is much more than just being able to perform well for yourself.
@drewjdelaney
@drewjdelaney 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you are trying to bring lifting to the masses!
@kznsky14
@kznsky14 2 жыл бұрын
There are lots of great points here. Dave Tate has said in some of his videos that he doesn't even know how to coach new lifters anymore. Just because the things you look for are different between folks that have less experience. They have to get to a certain level before he can provide meaningful advice to them. It makes sense to start with someone with less experience and move up to more experienced coaches as you progress.
@Madchris8828
@Madchris8828 2 жыл бұрын
Not a powerlifter atm, but I do appreciate the information provided on this channel. Good video
@mattturner3696
@mattturner3696 2 жыл бұрын
The idea of learning better from someone relatable holds true. When I started lifting some years ago I knew virtually nothing. I surfed KZbin looking for information. After several different channels that left no impact I found this channel run by a crazy dude who also had a large beard and liked metal. Since that day I’ve TRAINED UNTAMED!
@grendelkahn
@grendelkahn 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody is gatekeeping to avoid it growing popular or too big. The gatekeeping is about the quality of the coaching. Too many of these "influencers" have not put in the research, study, or time to understand the body, how it moves, why certain programs are setup a certain way. Next thing you know people are getting hurt, over training, and burning out and powerlifting gets a bad rap.
@derekclark8663
@derekclark8663 2 жыл бұрын
Your comedic ability is great. Adds to your solid and good advice about lifting,etc. Thanks!
@StrengthCoachFelix
@StrengthCoachFelix 2 жыл бұрын
"He can only bench 300lbs and he's charging for coaching" I feel attacked But seriously the problem of polarizing content is so frustrating as a coach. I'll talk about something and you got some douche coming in and saying "NUH UH BRO"
@Daybreak_Enterprises_TV_
@Daybreak_Enterprises_TV_ 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing is how if you have a good/elite total, that automatically means everything you say is “correct”. Or that having a good total means your a good coach and you are an authority on information. Ive gotten terrible coaching from great lifters.
@kevinjack5184
@kevinjack5184 Жыл бұрын
If you can bring value to someone you can be a coach. Trainer, life coach, fitness coach, health coach.... Whatever you want to call it... Experience trumps schooling
@TomEpQm
@TomEpQm 2 жыл бұрын
I'm by no means a coach, but I've been lifting since highschool. So now in my 20's, a lot of my friends have started wanting to get in better shape and don't know where to start, so they come to me and ask what they should do. Since their goals are usually just to get in better shape, put on some muscle, and get stronger I recommend them the basic starting strength program and ironically direct them to this channel on how to do the movements properly. The only way I'd accept money for that though is if someone asked me to work out with them individually, track their progress or something more personalized. Programming isn't exactly rocket science for the average person, maybe at the elite level but definitely not for beginners. It is kinda wild seeing fitness influencers trying to reinvent the wheel to stand out.
@Guysean1234
@Guysean1234 2 жыл бұрын
I coach several people for free to build up the social skills and information infrastructure I feel is needed to actually warrant being paid. Especially when working with beginners, none of the information you can give them is particularly hard to find.
@bofadeez5482
@bofadeez5482 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely, and I think what you’re doing is helping you gain insight into how various lifters respond to volume, intensity and exercise selection.
@johnmadison4040
@johnmadison4040 2 жыл бұрын
Bad take, Alan. Not sure if it’s the California air, but it’s not a good thing if your profession is saturated with junk. I remember the first two coaches I had when I was a noob. Both were useless, didn’t understand the mechanics, taught me bad form, which lead to back problems. Eventually, I stopped going to the gym. You want quality, not quantity.
@robertlevy4613
@robertlevy4613 2 жыл бұрын
All about growing the community and getting more people involved. It’s a win win.
@greentinroof
@greentinroof 2 жыл бұрын
In the old days, the only way to learn was to watch closely and talk to experienced lifters at contests. There were very few, if any, gyms outside of highly populated areas and no available coaches, let alone information about contests. New lifters had to get information somewhere. To help the sport grow, lifters helped lifters succeed. Alan, you said it.
@pieterhamers2583
@pieterhamers2583 2 жыл бұрын
It's simple, "sharing is caring". See what "information" works for you, and go from there.
@GringoEarthquake
@GringoEarthquake 2 жыл бұрын
Damn you wise Alan!! Coach and gym owner from the bay area here. I say open up the gates to everyone, if your good at what you do and passionate then the clients will come and gyms and thr spirt will grow. People who are smart enough will eventually weed out bad coaches as they get I'm the sport alottle longer
@bryanstocker40
@bryanstocker40 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is applied to everything. If you want to learn how to build a house, you can go to the best house builder, but you are going to learn more going to the subcontractors and learning the foundations. If you go directly to an elite coach, they probably won’t provide a beginner with ideal information as they aren’t trying to push past genetic potential.
@friendlyfire4178
@friendlyfire4178 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone on social media is a powerlifter as well. Its just ridiculous!
@FreedomFighters89
@FreedomFighters89 2 жыл бұрын
Now its all about marketing, social media and selling. Knowing how to sell yourself/service is the key. If you have LARGE amount of followers on instagram, you can basically sell EVERYTHING you imagine. And make good money.
@raf889
@raf889 2 жыл бұрын
Good points. I can see why you are a successful gym/business owner.
@tomo9224
@tomo9224 2 жыл бұрын
If someone starts off being healthy by using an online coach as a start, then good for them. A start is a start. People that are unfit are self conscious and the gym can be an atmosphere that makes people uncomfortable so if find support through an app or through an online coach then good luck to them. Gatekeeping fitness and strength is the most counterproductive shit ever.
@TheBcoolGuy
@TheBcoolGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I hadn't thought of that. I would try to find something else to complain about in customers placing too much importance on every unconscious detail of their intermediate coaches, but that sorts itself out as they realise it doesn't work, and if they're serious, they get to work figuring it out. And besides, you don't need a coach to get strong or big, so if a coach gets you into the iron and then you take it from there, there's no problem there. It's not like anybody is forcing anyone to pay for coaching. I guess these less skilled coaches are just people, acquaintances, friends old and new, with something to share with you for a price, if you want it. I've asked a guy who started lifting in November 2021 and managed to get to a 240 kg deadlift by August 2022 (the current month) how the hell he managed that. I started lifting on Jan 7th 2020 and my best deadlift is 170. He told me what he did, and it was insightful, and also showed me that he has holes and weaknesses too. I have more theoretical knowledge and experience, and he has his own unique training journey, just as I do. I ended up giving HIM advice too, about cutting weight. Envy should not be taken as more than a sign of an opportunity to learn and to grow.
@LPRweightlifting
@LPRweightlifting 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely nothing wrong with people growing the sport of powerlifting. I think the real problem ties into the lack of regulation when it comes to coaches and personal training as a whole. By law you need more licensing to cut hair in the US than you do to coach people in any aspect of fitness. And this is probably the single biggest factor that contributes to misinformation surrounding the fitness industry. Again no problem with local and novice lifters growing the sport. But it is important to realize that a lot of the personal trainer horror stories we hear about stem from the lack of regulation and expertise in personal training and coaching.
@joecowan3719
@joecowan3719 2 жыл бұрын
IMO, everyone is always looking for the best new program, when most programs will get you stronger if you put in the effort and recover properly.
@domepiece11
@domepiece11 2 жыл бұрын
Alan, I love the new haircut and beard. Please maintain it. However, I am concerned about your skin. You are a young guy, and you already seem to be developing noticeable sun spots. Please try a daily sunscreen moisturizer, like CeraVe or Neutrogena Helioplex. I also recommend anyone over 30 go to a dermatologist for an initial skin cancer screening. I'm only 33 and I've already had 2 spots removed by the dermatologist. Take care of yourself! The skin is your largest organ. If your ancestors are northern European, remember that we get much more UV here in North America than is optimal for fair skin. Women also love men with great skin!
@abelzorin4170
@abelzorin4170 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sir Alan ,you look great in your new hair and beard style . You are a true Power Coach , with so much great energy, and knowledge and expirience. Thats the truth you speak, many think they know powerlifting, that takes many years , and to know the body to make the perfect techniques, like a black belt Jui Jitsu master it takes time to reach the black belt level . In your new haircut,now you are to hot , the ladys Will chase you, you have to learn marathon running, and 100 meter sprint. All jokes aside , you are great Coach on KZbin,you give so much of yourself to the followers . Show extra Love to yourself in September month listen to the body, do your perfect routine for longjevity. Wellbalanced training. Every day show yourself love. Visit your family, have family dinners . I wish you the best in your training journey, Warm Greetings from Helsingborg Sweden
@TeamHahnVlog
@TeamHahnVlog 2 жыл бұрын
This was encouraging, I want to start coaching next year, never thought about the approachability aspect. Kinda thought I needed to get more jacked in order to attract clients haha. I just wanna help people get healthy through strength training, stay off medications, and stay out of the hospital
@xelabadman5824
@xelabadman5824 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Alan have you’ve ever heard of Test of the Einherjar it’s a strength competition happening in January 2023 which is gonna be a powerlifting/weightlifting competition on day 1 and a strongman competition on day 2 I feel like it would be a really fun thing to compete in
@codyzumr4040
@codyzumr4040 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine not using BaldOmniMan's self coaching free resource
@Yeomannn
@Yeomannn 2 жыл бұрын
Wife's bf is coaching me.
@peanutbutter5463
@peanutbutter5463 2 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is class!
@drip369
@drip369 2 жыл бұрын
Online coaches definitely cannot help you with your form directly and they also can't help you with your accessories if they don't know exactly where you are in your journey so beware
@nooblifter390
@nooblifter390 2 жыл бұрын
I like the explanation from the Beard Guy more.
@lillllyy06
@lillllyy06 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but could you explain why for example the candito program isn’t a real powerlifting program? I know it’s like a cookie cutter plan, but it’s focused on the three lifts and building strength
@AByrdPT
@AByrdPT 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't a big factor also that coaching, programming etc are super in depth skills in themselves? Someone being yoked with a big total doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna be good at coaching or potentially even working with an average person's schedule etc. Surely the value really should be based on the person's knowledge over anything else
@AByrdPT
@AByrdPT 2 жыл бұрын
@@jocm99 yeah I absolutely agree. You also have the issue of there being a lot of people who like being in the gym and become a coach pretty much to hang out at the gym and get a membership. Here in the UK people aren't even really spending much effort learning about the prior stuff you mentioned beyond the very dated qualification, let alone learning the skills of coaching (because I'm not sure they're that interested).
@frank8534
@frank8534 2 жыл бұрын
If I ever make it back to California, your gym would be a stop on my list of things to do.
@descendency
@descendency Жыл бұрын
My biggest concern with "everyone" being a coach is that powerlifting puts weight in people's hands that is dangerous enough to cause (serious) injuries. Yes, advanced lifters still get hurt but at a significantly lower rate. I've seen so many "form checks" with people lifting 300+ deadlift/squat that look borderline ready to cripple someone. I would prefer a barrier high enough that newbies look at content that exposes them to how to actually do the lifts. I feel seriously lucky to have a 1000+ max total and not have gotten seriously hurt from how bad my form was early on. I hate gate keepers and this isn't online beginner training for skydiving... but I do think sometimes we underestimate how dangerous it is to put the kinds of weights in beginners hands (the kinds that can be lifted incorrectly...). I've seen quite a few people who could pull 300+ lbs and I'm surprised their backs didn't snap. But yeah - to the point of the video, I agree with Alan. More interest in the sport is better for all. More interest means more power racks in gyms. And more gyms. And more interesting people. It's good all around for everyone.
@Zaeyrus
@Zaeyrus 2 жыл бұрын
I, as a new lifter, always refer people to Barbell Medicine Bridge program, but also tell them to start with the BB Medicine's "Beginner" template. Edit: there weren't that many people who asked :D
@Zaeyrus
@Zaeyrus 2 жыл бұрын
@alanthrall can you please confirm this, this, sorry if I'm being skeptical, doesn't seem legit
@jelania
@jelania 2 жыл бұрын
i write programming for and try to help some of my less experienced friends, but i would never charge money because i know that im not knowledgeable or educated enough
@TrenbologneSandwich
@TrenbologneSandwich 2 жыл бұрын
If they aren't an elite caliber powerlifter or in my case specifically certified as a powerlifting instructor, they aren't a coach. They're just a gym bro who doesn't know any special information
@tarzanizcool
@tarzanizcool 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that was a lot of not-so-subtle digs. I fuck with the vision.
@danielgonzalez9739
@danielgonzalez9739 2 жыл бұрын
I like this video cause it puts the real world into perspective
@badsector82
@badsector82 2 жыл бұрын
That squat rack comment was right on target. I've four gyms on a walking distance from my home and only one of them has somewhat decent squat that do the job. But all of them are full of all kinds of machinery which take too much space.
@n33to
@n33to 2 жыл бұрын
I have a youtube power lifting education and have been at it off n on for 4 years. I recently got tennis elbow and I realize its from squatting with a poor grip. A coach of literally any skill level could have pointed out my error, but nobody really knows or would tell me. For me the issue is not how do you coach, its *do* you coach (or get coached) at all. More power to ‘em.
@StevenKW
@StevenKW Жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is the best.
@Mershhadastroke
@Mershhadastroke Жыл бұрын
Best thumbnail I’ve seen in a while
@zg4705
@zg4705 2 жыл бұрын
Also, why is a total the defining factor? Why not a degree, or some sort of certificate of say, education? Kinesiology? Sports science? Nutrition? Just because you total 800+ kilos doesn't mean you understand WHY you can. Or that you can teach it.
@marthie384
@marthie384 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm a Certified Strength Coach from Germany. The big problem in Germany is, that everyone who ever moved a Barbell, thinks he is a Coach. And all the German FitnessInfluencers where have no clue what they are doing to beginners and most of the time teenagers. I have alot of requests from people where came to me because of injurys they got from the programs of those influencers. And yes i checked the programs and videos of those people... i mean ok.. its good for my wallett^^ but i like to help people reach their goals. so. enough for now. greetings
@Ranius125
@Ranius125 2 жыл бұрын
I dont get why a coach has to have a big total, be big or whatever. In other sports it is normal that the coach isnt pro himself. Coaching and being a pro are two different things and idk why it is fitness, powerlifting etc. where this logic doesnt apply.
@LNCChancey
@LNCChancey 2 жыл бұрын
I think you have the right approach here. The fitness industry has been fragmented for years and for beginners or people who don’t have time to study the science - it’s complicated and full of snake oil sales people. Having a basic program offered by their gym as part of the package is really helpful - as it can be trusted - especially as the gym owner has a vested interest in their clients returning (or at least should be). If experts want to get personal trainers and nutritionalists, it makes sense for them to be standalone services but to pay for a gym without a plan on how to use it, seems silly. Yet this is how the industry has been built for years 😂
@NicolasAlexanderOtto
@NicolasAlexanderOtto Жыл бұрын
Refreshing perspective! Much appreciated!
@wangwang1488
@wangwang1488 2 жыл бұрын
HEY ALAN!, im still waiting and excited for the video about running and lifting you said youre gonna do.
@droaks2
@droaks2 2 жыл бұрын
If you are looking for advice, I would suggest finding a guy with similar proportions to you who is really digging his workouts and seems to have good gains, and good motivation. The tall man shouldn’t ask a the guy built like Gimli the dwarf for any advice on how to make gains or critique form, with the best of intentions and intelligence, he can’t make what he does like right and make sense for the tall guy.
@davidec.4021
@davidec.4021 2 жыл бұрын
“He responds to Pit-bull” lmao
@jeremyjarvis8100
@jeremyjarvis8100 2 жыл бұрын
Beard may have changed but that advice is still as solid as some pink chucks on a squat.
@petrocksgarage
@petrocksgarage 2 жыл бұрын
TRUTH!!!
@barbellgardener
@barbellgardener 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done Sir! New look is great too
@bgajdek
@bgajdek 2 жыл бұрын
Substitute PowerLifting for Punk Rock. Growing pains of what was a small interest becoming a big thing.
@adahbombdon1512
@adahbombdon1512 2 жыл бұрын
This is honestly common knowledge and I’m never understood some troll arguments lol Like saying you can’t criticize something if you’re not a pro…ufc, etc… Old ass coaches are great coaches….doesn’t mean they play football or basketball. You can share basic knowledge about a skill you haven’t mastered. That’s life.
@datfarmboy
@datfarmboy 2 жыл бұрын
Great take...always a clear voice of reason...also @ 4:40....shots fired at Juji??
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