EVERYONE Who Went to VALHALLA: Tony Stark, Hela, LOKI + More | Thor: Love and Thunder Explained

[@ScreenCrush]

What do you think of our theory?

[@isaacj6396]

Realistic

[@RahhhhFreedom]

@@isaacj6396 nuff said

[@tiffane973]

I hope you're right & get to see all of this pan out

[@matthewgrant2973]

Seems reasonable. But I hope they dont return or death in mcu means nothing

[@pratik1657]

Well I think mcu can make him alive again if they want. Cause didn't die a normal death he died using infinity stones which I think will make a reference in future. (Just a theory😅)

[@alyx5491]

Malekith is easily the best villain in the MCU. ”I'm butthurt and want to spread darkness” is so deep we can’t even begin to understand it.

[@WigantX]

I mean, Thanos looks like a joke when compared to Malekith. Can't believe they used him as the main villain

[@ked49]

Malakith could be connected to the necro blade

[@momo23461]

The dark elves were around before the universe/light existed they serve the darkness

[@bearislandthuglife3463]

@@WigantX Thanos looks like an OP Video Game Boss he is called the Mad Titan which is a boss name

[@DominickRuocco]

I really hope Hela makes a return to the MCU and Cate Blanchett absolutely killed that role. She's still my favorite MCU villain.

[@marvelquestioner6204]

Me too

[@taialiipeato4636]

I love her, she so cool

[@haiku230]

can hardly believe the one who played the angelic elf galadriel also did the notorious asgardian antagonist hela.all legendary characters.

[@rileyjdavies]

And mine. Absolutely insane portrayal, masterful to say the least.

[@rebootnut]

FINALLY, someone mentions Lady Sif's arm! It must be by itself in Valhalla!

[@ryanbean28]

What about the one god Thor called “one of the nicest gods you’ll ever meet”? When he was dead he had the same gold dust around him I believe

[@ked49]

He wasn’t a Viking or Asgardian

[@fastballfilms4214]

@@ked49 neither was Jane….

[@harishravichandran1667]

@@fastballfilms4214 L take she was literally thor

[@devinwilliams1963]

@@fastballfilms4214 one could argue that being able to lift Mjolnir could make someone a “worthy” Asgardian. Especially when they’re destined to die in their own realm

[@devinwilliams1963]

@@fastballfilms4214 actually I don’t think you were arguing that nvm

[@sablevo]

Hela at her death was the rightful ruler of Asgard. The same rules that applied to Odin and his forebears would have applied to her as well.

[@Gantros]

Considering Odin used a great deal of his strength to keep Hela imprisoned for millennia, I think that qualifies as dying in battle, just a very long one.

[@ked49]

Except hala gets into Valhalla in that version of the theory

[@Gantros]

@@ked49 As evil as she was, Hela did die in battle in defense of Asgard. That said, as goddess of death, she’d probably forgo Valhalla to rule Hel.

[@treyglass6979]

4d thinking 😂

[@joekeefe1811]

100% agree

[@ked49]

@@Gantros yeah

[@kxbrewsky]

Maybe just a crazy theory here. I know this didn't have anything to do with Gorr's daughter, but you're theory about a dimension hopping Thor movie lends more weight to what I've been thinking for a while now. Firstly I don't think her name is actually Love because Thor's name clearly isn't thunder, also I'm sure Gorr had already given her a name and that would be kinda weird to just abandon it, but I will refer to her as Love for ease. Even if it is her name though, I think her character is gonna draw a lot from Magik(Illyana Rasputin). The way her eyes glowed with like a dark magic first made me think of it. In the comics, Illyana doesn't die like Love, but she grows up and learns magic in an alternate dimension called Limbo. We think of being between life and death as Limbo, and when Love was brought back by Eternity she had magic, so she pretty much learned magic in Limbo. Illyana is also a mutant, on top of knowing magic, and her mutant power is to teleport across time and space, Love was given Stormbreaker which can already do one of those things by opening the Byfrost, and I'm thinking with Love's magic from Eternity it might be able to do the other or even cross to other universes. Love's father Gorr wielded the Necrosword, a dark magic sword forged at the beginning of the universe, which started infecting his body with black stuff. Magik wields a sword call the soul sword which she magically forged in Limbo from her soul, which starts covering her body more and more in black armor, and it wouldn't be unhears of for a character to lose their God killing weapon and then creat another one and it'd pretty poetic if it was like a pure version of what corrupted her father. I know for sure Magik was the Enchantress in Asgard in a What If story, and I'm pretty sure she has ridden into battle with the Valkyrior at various points, and Love is set up with the Asgardians now so she could easily grow into either of those positions. And to top it off, Love randomly had that little dragon toy that the movie focused in on. Which is crazy, cause Illyana has a purple toy dragon which is called Lockheed and becomes real in Limbo. Just sayin, Love is Magik.

[@cdsaylor2]

I feel like everyone missed the Gorr also turns into gold fairy dust at the end of the movie, highly suggesting he also ended up in Valhalla.

[@gaper1287]

So the gods of different religions that turned to gold dust are also in Valhalla then

[@louisvictor3473]

Well, he sure wouldn't want to be in his original religion's heaven, on accounting of hating his god who he did kill (and possibly all his world's other gods).

[@bethb4432]

If Sif’s arm is in Valhalla then we definitely need Sam Raimi to direct its return.

[@TheHanyou]

'Blood is Thicker than Water' is one of the most commonly misused phrases today, I swear. The original saying is, 'The Blood of the Covenant is Thicker than the Waters of the Womb.' Meaning the exact opposite of what people use it for.

[@franchescamayialmonte1303]

Asgard is not a place it's a people! Hella wasn't fighting to defend the people, She was fighting for the land that gave her powers.

[@Cerfpve]

Is it confirmed non-Asgardian's like Iron Man can go to Valhalla though? I know Jane did, but she also was Thor for a time, which maybe helped. Like with the multitude of afterlives already mentioned in the MCU what "qualifies" someone to go there?

[@terrajae9629]

I think it's based on ur beliefs like real life like in Black Panther Killmonger and his dad technically made it to the Wakandan afterlife but because they weren't given proper burials they couldn't rest with the ancestors... and in Moonknight Marc was Jewish, but Steven believed in the Enead and was actively interacting with them before the whole moonknight thing while Marc didn't seem to be still practicing his Judaism so Steven's beliefs won but even still they had to follow those rules of balancing their souls or not being allowed entry to the Field of Reeds... same with Jane I don't think she had religious beliefs but then her interacting with Thor and Asgard changed that plus she died in 2 battles (fighting Gorr and Cancer)... but this is just my interpretation I could be wrong

[@stephenmoney4722]

anyone who isn't asgardian can go to valhalla. It was norse mythology - meaning that people from Scandinavia (not asgardians) who died can go to valhalla. It wouldn't make much sense if only asgardians go there.

[@joshuaw9675]

@@terrajae9629 Valhalla is for the Norse gods/ Asgardians. Jane fought for Asgard as the mighty Thor, so she was qualified. Killmonger was a Black Panther which is why he went to the ancestral plane and saw his father, there’s a good chance that he went there after his death as all Black Panther’s/kings go there after death

[@joshuaw9675]

@@terrajae9629 the ancestral plane is exclusive to anyone who becomes the Black Panther whereas Valhalla is open to all Asgardians and Norse gods who die in battle

[@Mukation]

Technically Mjölnir made her Asgardian, though. "Shall posses the power of Thor". That could and should include his physical properties (being an Asgardian).

[@40772193]

Don’t know how anyone could believe that Hela is dead, you literally see her disappear in a flash of green before getting struck by Surtur.

[@helloimtobi]

i’m praying they don’t bring stark back he had the perfect arc.

[@melvinbagby4221]

Why would Tony Stark go to Valhalla? Jane was "Thor" so she lived and died a Viking death, despite her beliefs.

[@ked49]

No Thor was the only person she loved. So she would want to believe after death they could be together

[@thorriklawrence449]

in love and thunder she was kind of Asgardian so..

[@gaper1287]

@@ked49 bruh

[@joekeefe1811]

She became Asgardian in becoming Thor and wielding Mjloner

[@ked49]

@@gaper1287 what?

[@Kaijutopia]

Here's a question: Did Kang/He Who Remains know about the MCU Afterlife (Valhalla, Duat, Ancestral Plane, etc.)? The MCU Afterlife is described as incomprehensively vast, and its physics is shaped by the beliefs of its inhabitants. But in the eyes of a conquering villain like Kang (or Dr. Doom), it looks like invaluable real estate. To escape multiversal destruction, the MCU Afterlife would make for a great place to set up shop... a Battleworld, if you will.

[@ked49]

He knows about some plains of existence. Not all of them He know talo, kun lun and the norr Also unless you have a special cercomstance it’s a one way trip

[@uvindukulathunga3860]

I think when someones goes to after life thats just it no coming back

[@louisvictor3473]

@@ked49 Doom cares not for such rules. Doom comes and goes as Doom pleases. Literally, man enters Mephistos' realm, trash talk and punch him the in face in his own realm, and fucks off no problem. And in comics Valhalla and Hel have been entered and successfully exited by the living now and then, with Valkyries usually being able to just cross the boundaries because that is their job. And lo, we do have a Valkyrie in the MCU

[@ked49]

@@louisvictor3473 I was talking about kang

[@louisvictor3473]

@@ked49 Yeah, but if I acknowledge that I would have to pass on a chance to hail Doom, and that is not negotiable!

[@arianna_ca]

2:32 thank you for the that gift, Ryan 😂 You are hilarious! Keep up the great work.

[@jimmehrabbit]

Lol, loved the loki death montage with thor, NOOOO!!! 🤣🤣

[@peter4210]

Valhalla is supposed to be watched over by Odin. Half the people who fight in battle get to go to Odin and the other half to Freyja. Odins hall for the dead is Valhalla but Freyja had her own hall. The rivalries were the one to go fetch the dead and basically picked the people. Given the Events of the Ragnarok movie, It would be safe to say no one went and fetch Hella

[@Gee_Dub]

2:25 I'm here for Doug!

[@CalebGaddis09]

We need a series of tony bouncing through after lives

[@johnmichael2692]

Hope this can be possible for tony, Natasha and Jane. They all should be able to get a second chance and to reunite with there friends, fellow heroes and loved ones.

[@TheWRCS]

After seeing the Wire, no matter what character Idris plays, I’ll always see Stringer Bell

[@MichaelSmithATX]

“Blood is thicker than water” actually means the exact opposite.. the actual phrase is “the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb” meaning that the people you choose to have in your life are more important than the people you are forced to.

[@ked49]

Yes

[@terrencejackson4927]

Thank you so very much Ryan. I'll make sure I see it this weekend 2:29

[@jkylesmith05]

One request. Next time you're doing a advertising bit, please use the clip where Yoghurt says "Merchandising!, merchandising!" in Spaceballs. Please. Pllllllllease!

[@Kapparillo]

2:45 i thought we all agreed that she was able to wield Mjolnir not because she's "worthy", but because of Thor's spell + because Odin died so his original test of "worthy" is no longer in affect.

[@Mukation]

She became "worthy" because Thor unknowingly put a spell on Mjölnir to protect her in any way it could, when he told it to protect her at all cost, because he loved her. The only way it knew how to protect her would obviously be to make her worthy....

[@louisvictor3473]

No, we all most certainly do not agree. Nor does the movie, as there is literally a scene of Thor picking up Mjölnir before Jane can pick up back "Oh, just checking if still can" or some such, and then given it back to her.The movie is literally telling you the enchantment is there, Thor's own enchantment just explains why the hammers actively looks after her.

[@Kapparillo]

@@louisvictor3473 I'm sure Thor is exempt from his own spell. It'd be a rubbish spell if he couldn't pick it up

[@louisvictor3473]

@@Kapparillo His own spell involved nothing about others beaides Jane being unable to lift it. Thor tells you with all letters he is checking if he still is worthy to lift it. If you want to believe your own version of his spell and ignore what he says on film, good luck with everything.

[@Croftice1]

@@louisvictor3473 He said "I'm just weighting it", not "checking if I still can". Of course he checked, because he wanted to be sure if he's still worthy, which implies, that Odin's enchantment may still be in place even after his passing. Thor's enchantment "protect her for me at all cost" may just overwrite the original Odin's enchantment, making Jane worthy, because that's the only way Mjölnir ever knows to protect anyone, by making them worthy of wielding it. If Odin's enchantment no longer existed, anyone could wield the hammer, but may only use it to protect Jane by Thor's enchantment. But since "only those who are worthy may wield this hammer and posess the power of Thor" seems to be still in place (Jane taking the hammer gives her Thor's powers), she must be worthy.

[@supermanprime6758]

Stark: "I don't think Valhalla is a great place for an alcoholic American. Its a pass."

[@brownboy8665]

Love the Ultimate alliance reference. One of the best games of my childhood

[@dominickdavila1836]

That was a deep cut going back to Ultimate Alliance! Love it!

[@Dukedj34]

You know what they say about laughter... Your show is always good medicine! 👍 Thank you

[@f0urrnr.450]

This is ULTRA REACHING. I’m still gonna watch this

[@michaelmason7687]

As long as Stark is there, that's all that matters 🤙🏻

[@0910yoram]

Imagine a avengers level movie where a villain tries to destroy every afterlife, and the avengers have to fight to safe the dead instead of the living.

[@pikeman777]

I was surprised Jane didn't see Sif's arm when she got there. 1 last joke for the road.

[@Croftice1]

Heimdall greeted her outside, Sif's arm is feasting with the others. Do not worry, Jane will meet the arm inside.

[@briandaleske5139]

There are two versions of LOKI, I imagine being welcomed into Valhalla; One is the Earth-616 Realm’s, who went from villain, to selfish troublemaker, and then to brave, loyal brother, who protected his brother from Thanos. The second is the variant of Loki, from the (LOKI) show series, who learned valuable lessons, developed a friendship with someone, and who feel in love with a lady character, named Sylvie, who pretended to be a Loki variant.

[@joshuaw9675]

Tony wasn’t an asguardian nor did he wield Mijnir or have a connection with Asgard/Norse gods like Jane did

[@ked49]

So just so everyone knows soul world is a pocket universe prison. Like the center of the universe. Both only have two ways in, a structure or an infinity stone

[@somepersonexsisting8519]

I just realised Butcher and Skurge are played by the same actor that makes The Boys and Thor Ragnarok so much better

[@DannyMcWiggle]

I love the shout out for Marvel Ultimate Alliance, one of my favorite superhero video games ever.

[@hbf995]

When Loki was going to die in the battlefield of the Darkworld, He said: See you in hell, monster. It looks like he didn't think he could go to Valhalla even he die of honor.

[@nicolaseasdale1394]

I love this theory, anything that can allow us to see Tony in some form or another.

[@spritvio639]

You know thinking about it deeper, it's not really a positive implication for people like Jane and Tony to be in Valhalla. I mean imagine going to an entirely different afterlife from your friends and family and being around people you don't know for eternity.

[@RiceCubeTech]

For Jane it makes sense because the one person she’s shown to truly love, Thor, would be in Valhalla. For tony, yeah. It would suck

[@ked49]

@@RiceCubeTech tony has nothing he just becomes part of eternity

[@liluziintrovert]

With the gold dust thing, I feel like that only happens with someone dies peacefully and goes to Valhalla, as we only see it with Jane and Odin

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

Just throwing this out there, but I really feel like "Thor: Love and Thunder" jumped the shark and took a massive dump on what was already established in the MCU up to this point. Beforehand, it was established that Gods don't exist in this universe. Beings that we humans perceive as gods are just more advanced civilizations. Even Odin states this directly in the first Thor Movie with the line "We are not gods. We grow old and die." But this movie states that gods and deities are just that, immortal gods who want to be worshiped. It also contradicts what was established in the Eternals. In that movie, they made it clear that the non-norse gods of earth are just human interpretations of the Eternals themselves (the legend of Athena is just humans telling stories of Thena). But now, all of those gods DO exist and they live in some gold city in space. So does that mean both Thena AND Athena exist? Is there both a Cersei and Sersi? The fact that they are adding gods, deities, and afterlifes to the MCU doesn't sit right with me, because it contradicts the grounded nature of the MCU until now. They made it seem like everything is grounded in science and not fantasy or mythology. But it seems like that sentiment no longer exists. Not saying any of this took away my enjoyment of Thor: Love and Thunder, but I feel like Feige is taking the MCU in a very far out direction.

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

Also feel free to use this for a video. I think it would be great content :)

[@RiceCubeTech]

It’s more in line with the comics, and as a comics nerd, I love it. It’s a bit convoluted but I like it. Also theirs rumors that Norman reedus is coming to play the Ghost Rider. And he’s a spawn of satan. And later it turns out a creation of Yahweh. So there has to be gods or at least God.

[@Oleus]

Well it's a little bit more complicated than that, isn't it ? They've "soft-rebooted" the whole Asgardians-are-not-gods-thing a long time ago and the concepts of gods and afterlife(s) of the MCU didn't exactly appear out of thin air with Thor love and Thunder. We already had the egyptian gods with a pretty clear explanation about the afterlife not too long ago, in Moon Knight. We also had the Ghost rider and Hell in Agents of SHIELD and one can easily argue that a version of the character might totally exist in the main cinematic universe, too. To be honest, The Eternals is the movie that doesn't fit that well in the continuity but the presence of Celestials at Omnipotence city might explain the connection... The MCU has always been a huge patchwork of different things, opposite vibes and contradictory ambiences, just like the comics are. It's supposed to be a universe with grim stories of vigilantes fighting gangs in Hell Kitchen and colourful silly-looking aliens living in the severed head of a giant alien at the same time... you can say that you don't like the tone of the more comedic movies of the franchise, but that's just a matter of perception of things. The same story can always be told in a tragic or comedic way, without even changing its events and dialogues.

[@ked49]

Near immortal beings so they live they die give or take a few thousand years

[@ksamuel9]

It's more comic accurate that the Eternals and Greek Gods exist at the same time. "they made it seem like everything is grounded in science" It's the Marvel universe, it's not JUST science, it incorporates everything

[@lloydmills5968]

There is a dungeon in World of Warcraft (Legion expansion 2016) called Halls of Valor, which is kinda sorta supposed to be Valhalla. Best I can remember, this Valhalla looks very similar. I wonder if they're based on the same piece of old artwork or something.

[@ironrick95mcoc46]

Can you explain where the dialogue from the first few seconds of the video is from? I don't recall thor reminiscing about stark. Or, is it just edited to add the word stark?

[@GaaraFPS]

haven't seen the movie but I do really like your videos so im here, huge ultimate alliance reference just got the game on steam a bit ago

[@krisgonynor689]

Of course I only watch these because I want to see you, Ryan, you handsome beast. Plus the content of course.

[@Genopie]

Sif’s arm just chillin’ in Valhalla lmao

[@Farfate]

where is the first scene from with thor talking about tony?? truly don’t remember it

[@Holyhairyareola]

Can you explain why Nat.p lady Thor got into Valhalla when earlier in the movie Thor told sif she couldn't get into valhalla cos she didnt die in battle. Technically she was already dying before using the hammer so thats not really a battle since she gave up on chemo.

[@Mukation]

Thor told her that because 1) he's either wrong or 2) to insure that Sif didn't kill herself and could recover.

[@briandaleske5139]

I can definitely imagine TONY ANTHONY STARK, of Earth-616 realm, being welcomed into Valhalla.

[@briwood6328]

Great intro 👍✌

[@OrionKoh]

which movie is the opening scene where thor is mourning for tony for a place in valhalla

[@enriqueguitierrez75]

What is the name of the song at the beginning of the video where it's mentioned Tony stark may be in Valhalla?

[@pobsdad]

My opinion is that once in Valhalla you stay in Valhalla. If the dead gods start coming back to sort out the living's problems, it would set a dangerous precedent. You can't have people dying then just coming back whenever they like, it would be untidy.

[@JacobJTequila]

I do really like looking at you, so thank you very much for that. Lookin good

[@thatboi3681]

Tony casually makes a new suit out of godlike materials.

[@mickeysmyspiritanimal223]

We come for the theory and stay for Ryan 2:34! 😜🥳❤️💙💜🎉😜

[@jamericanjesus]

Thor’s prayer got him in. You see he can enchant & doesn’t even know it. Thor should move into learning magic

[@noahsturgill20]

Love your stuff and your theories I don't know if it'll happen but hey it's cool to imagine and then see what happens

[@liluziintrovert]

Now that I look at it, the field of reeds is possibly one of the worst afterlife’s, you have Vahalla, a great place where you party all the time and hangout with people, Ancestral Plain where you hangout with your family and talk about your history and stories, or the Field of Reeds, where it’s just itchy reeds and yourself

[@shawnmccarty1886]

Is there going to be a variant version of every afterlife for every variant version of characters in each of the realms

[@J420-x6p]

Heimdalls sacrifice was actually so huge, what happens if he doesn’t send hulk back to warn the avengers. Thanos arrives on earth with a surprise advantage and a couple infinity stones already in hand? Hulk dies in space? Tony Cap and Strange have to fight Thanos together maybe even without the help of Wakanda cause they wouldn’t have had enough time too. Truly huge for Heimdall to do that

[@robinwilliams4617]

I love that it was a ghost hand🤣

[@mrjediknight]

I think the Jane Foster scene sets her up to return as a Valkyrie. He the comics she dies as Thor and returns as the new Valkyrie. The the comics and myths Valkyries escort those who die is battle to Valhalla

[@GeekMyMind]

I think showing the afterlife jumped the shark for the MCU. This now makes it so there are no stakes whatsoever

[@Cestariarts]

Death means little in the MCU apparently

[@ked49]

@@Cestariarts except if you are uncle Ben

[@chrisortiz5959]

I LOOOOOOVED THIS VIDEO

[@victorsau1145]

Awesome Theory

[@tinamoul]

I mean every Asgardian that died in Malekiths attack made it to Valhalla. They had an entire burial ceremony that sent them an Frigga on the goldust express to Valhalla

[@Exaris79]

Just realized since Jane Foster picked up Mjolnir, means she's worthy to enter Valhalla. The same goes with Steve Rogers too as he picked up Mjolnir too..

[@geedozen5095]

I would really like it if Agatha House of Harkness is a show where each episode is Agatha telling scary stories from the supernatural side of the MCU,they could use that to introduce new characters that are more related to characters like Blade,Ghost Rider,Moon Night etc...

[@ked49]

Moon knight? Watch moon knight. I think you mean shadow knight

[@schools6555]

I really want to watch this video but since I haven't seen Thor love and Thunder I'll have to come back.

[@purelitenite]

He's here, he's there, he's every fuckin' where, Hercules! Hercules!

[@BaDazai]

Wouldn't Jane have wanted to go to the afterlife for earthlings, where she'd be with he room and other family? Asgadians just snatched her...😅🤣

[@rickeywilliams6223]

If all aligns this just makes me feel another endgame level gathering brewing in the end🙏🏽

[@macbro8636]

Loki Subject: Regarding Loki's character. TVA won't release it until the last episode, the last season. Loki Come to Dr. Strange, and will tell him, listen to the cataclysm coming, help. A Strange: Are you still alive? Thor said you died to Thanos; Loki: As you can see I have many lives; Strange: You are fifth on my villain list; Loki: Maybe, but maybe you'll change your mind when Kang breaks the universe off; Strange: What Kangaroo ?; Loki: No, Kang the Conqueror; Strange: Right, it's the third one on the second list of people without magic who can endanger Earth; Loki: do you have two lists ?; Strange: Yes, I have the other one if the Avengers' leg would collapse; Loki: Then wish you had any pleasure with Thanos; Strange: Also on the list, it was just a coincidence that he found himself in a different circumstance; Loki: We have the same experiences; Strange: For a mischievous god, with so many lives for me to argue; Loki: Well, maybe I exaggerated a bit, TVA is on our heels, and such ...; Strange interrupted: You say Kang the Conqueror, to the point. And here is where Loki and Strange are seriously staring at each other, and the screen is black and writes sequels will be in Marvel Film. Heros will be return in Marvel Film.

[@JohnielSerrano]

Whats the song at 0:55?

[@TheWRCS]

Well I guess that argument you made about Tony going to Valhalla- you can include Bruce Banner whenever he perishes because also for a few seconds he wielded the gauntlet

[@indjijatsararmy]

0:03 to 0:13 Where is that from?

[@remcohendrik]

The god in the beginning of tlat also had the gold dust, what do you think does that mean?

[@nevinarushan91]

Don't give us hope that Tony is coming back

[@EmaculateRecords305]

With the way the movies have been going lately. I doubt Tony would even want to come back

[@KillerTofuDrums]

Hela didn't die defending Asgard. Asgard isn't a place, it's a people.

[@ked49]

She fought against asgaurd

[@rlanggara906]

How is there already a bifrost in bor's time when you said Odin made it?

[@BlazerRox]

Did snapped people who were in battle temporarily go to Vahalla? Or not because they basically ceased to exist instead of being "killed"

[@lordraiden5398]

Is Hella actually dead? We didn't see her die. She is a Godess. Loki floated in space after falling off the Rainbow Bridge. Thor was floating in space when the Guardians found him.

[@brianquincyscott1955]

Tony doesn't believe in an afterlife...he is a man of science...Moon Knight established that one must have a belief in the after life to go there. Jane was a Thor so even without believing she goes to Valhalla.

[@diobrando910]

When did Thor wish for stark to ascend to Valhalla? I just don’t recall when that happened.

[@tripppyy]

Thor and Hercules will fight and be enemies and best friends and probably have to fight again in a way that is gut wrenching...... Know how I know? Because it's simple to predict that Brett Goldstein and Chris Hemsworth will become crazy fun friends and that will show up on screen. They'll do several other fun movies together.

[@jakeland1475]

Wouldn’t tony not go to Valhalla since that’s not the afterlife he believed in?

[@louisvictor3473]

He believed in no after life afaik, but I am sure he believed Thor existed and his people too. So his options were random or "my buddy's turff". Yes, no guarantee, but the door for it is open, it doesn't clash with anything.

[@icekangz817]

Everyone's going to Valhalla, Thanos, hela, gor, you, and me are all going cause marvel makes whatever rules they want. Even if stark doesn't believe in that mythology he's getting in cause simply you want to put him in. That makes perfect sense.

[@briandaleske5139]

The only version of HELA, I imagine entering Valhalla, is the variant of her, who became a hero.

[@justinaller4899]

The one hole in this theory is Tonys body didnt fade into light like Odin and Jane wouldnt his whole body and essence go there when he died.

[@KC_Money]

I think it’s interesting that Thor told Sif she wouldn’t make it to Vahalla if she died after the battle but Jane dies after the battle and makes it to Vahalla. 🙃

[@balajivarre]

As long as stark is back all is worth it

[@supergods6624]

What would be the conversion between hela and Odin in Valhalla??

[@SkrollieOllie]

Would that mean Professor Hulk has achieved God-hood as well since he snapped before Stark?

[@Croftice1]

I wouldn't trust Ebony Maw's words a bit. He was exaggerating, because he worshipped Thanos on every step.