EVERYTHING CULTURALLY RIGHT AND WRONG WITH MULAN II (2004)

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Xiran Jay Zhao

Xiran Jay Zhao

2 жыл бұрын

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@XiranJayZhao
@XiranJayZhao 2 жыл бұрын
MULAN AND MULAN II TOOK PLACE IN THE YEAR 497 PASS IT ON
@Sophie-mv7bd
@Sophie-mv7bd 2 жыл бұрын
Because you love your fans?
@awakeatnight1
@awakeatnight1 2 жыл бұрын
Hey. Somewhat a fan. You're okay
@BlueflameKing1
@BlueflameKing1 2 жыл бұрын
Because you are awesome. Thank you.
@misterminutes4504
@misterminutes4504 2 жыл бұрын
Because the subscribers are sadists 🤣
@Mam_Otazku
@Mam_Otazku 2 жыл бұрын
For our entertainment, to spread your cultural knowledge and inform us on how other people live.
@frozenweevil4022
@frozenweevil4022 2 жыл бұрын
Xiran: Gets banned from internet by government. Xiran: Oh no, anyway.
@PColumbus73
@PColumbus73 2 жыл бұрын
Xiran treats Chinese sensors like Americans treat Facebook bans
@poison_raine5219
@poison_raine5219 2 жыл бұрын
me too lol, vpns save me
@rinibunny4576
@rinibunny4576 2 жыл бұрын
Wait she got banned?
@frozenweevil4022
@frozenweevil4022 2 жыл бұрын
@@rinibunny4576 yes, she said in the sponsor thing
@rinibunny4576
@rinibunny4576 2 жыл бұрын
@@frozenweevil4022 in this video? I haven’t watched it yet so I probably sound dumb lol
@CCharmanderK
@CCharmanderK 2 жыл бұрын
"Y'all, this was just straight-up racist." I lost it.
@dingle2987
@dingle2987 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, reminds me of the Siamese cats in Lady and the Tramp. Let’s play some cliche old movie generic supposedly asian notes and have them move their heads back and forth.
@Firegen1
@Firegen1 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Horrified to learn recently that Peggy Lee voiced them. That made that movie even weirder for me.
@aaunyea4799
@aaunyea4799 2 жыл бұрын
@@dingle2987 and the Siamese cat from the "The Aristocats". Played the piano with chopsticks
@solarmoth4628
@solarmoth4628 2 жыл бұрын
It felt of as a kid but as an adult I understand why.
@ave8544
@ave8544 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaunyea4799 I had purged this from my mind nooooo
@reshiramlodke3884
@reshiramlodke3884 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna see the pillow fight recreated with historically accurate pillows. I wanna hear porcelain break.
@sarahlange9029
@sarahlange9029 Жыл бұрын
They just bash eachothers heads with porcelain.
@foryx_
@foryx_ Жыл бұрын
and skulls
@kelliecarmichael2539
@kelliecarmichael2539 Жыл бұрын
AND HERE COMES JOHN CENA WITH THE PORCELAIN PILLOW!
@merrittanimation7721
@merrittanimation7721 Жыл бұрын
"So the princesses need stitches"
@gayjayy
@gayjayy Жыл бұрын
"*Crash* MEI! YOU HURT MY HEAD!"
@acecat2798
@acecat2798 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine how funny it would've been if they did the proposal the ancient Chinese way, like the Li family calls the matchmaker from the first movie to come to arrange a match. She comes in, fawning over being noticed by this prestigious family and flattering them constantly. Then they're like "oh we have someone in mind, we just want you for negotiations and checking the birth dates' compatibility". She's like, "oh yes? And who is the bride you're looking to marry?" "Fa Mulan." And she has to contain the rage, subtly tries to trash talk her as a buffoon who poured boiling hot tea all over her and disguised herself as a man... and Shang just finds it funny but his mom and grandma start to get concerned, setting up a conflict where they question if Mulan is too much a warrior and not a proper future daughter-in-law/wife/mom.
@imjustlucy_29
@imjustlucy_29 2 жыл бұрын
THAT could’ve been an interesting rising climax for this movie but they went quite wonky for this plot.
@chavitanwar2126
@chavitanwar2126 2 жыл бұрын
That would have been a better movie than this 😂😂😂
@louise4152
@louise4152 2 жыл бұрын
BRO that would've been fun to watch 😭😭
@SobrietyandSolace
@SobrietyandSolace 2 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeeeeesssssss this would be brilliant
@merrittanimation7721
@merrittanimation7721 2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough in an earlier draft of the original movie an early scene was Mulan and Shang's families trying to organize their marriage together, so there'd be conflict when Mulan disguised herself in his army. Obviously they decided this was a bit contrived in context but that being used in a sequel sounds hilarious.
@_hunnybe
@_hunnybe 2 жыл бұрын
"Bisexual Legend Li Shang" is the only name I will accept now
@user-xt9nw6bf3g
@user-xt9nw6bf3g 2 жыл бұрын
I was just about to comment that lol. I very much agree with that statement
@Victoria-_
@Victoria-_ 2 жыл бұрын
Same 😌
@antoniocasias5545
@antoniocasias5545 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s too much of a stretch
@petrusnelson4248
@petrusnelson4248 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think he's bisexual at all. He's as straight as they come. It always baffled me how people love to label him as such. I never saw any indication that he's interested in Mulan when she was disguised as a boy. I always see this as being presumptuous.
@_hunnybe
@_hunnybe 2 жыл бұрын
@@petrusnelson4248 it's presumptuous to label anyone anything that they haven't named themselves. This character is fictional, though. Also, BD Wong has gone on record saying Shang was fluid or queer 🤷‍♀️
@InOzWeTrust
@InOzWeTrust 2 жыл бұрын
"And then the Emperor executed the court painter." Literal applause at how that story ends.
@CaptainSoftboy501
@CaptainSoftboy501 2 жыл бұрын
IT CAUGHT ME SO OFF GUARD AND I BUSTED OUT LAUGHING
@tinysatansierra9318
@tinysatansierra9318 2 жыл бұрын
I was eating pasta and I had to pause and go “what”
@Tankerrex3
@Tankerrex3 2 жыл бұрын
that's how you tye up loose ends
@karaqakkzl
@karaqakkzl 2 жыл бұрын
Mo? (Korean) Nani? (Japanese) Que?
@jeffulloa218
@jeffulloa218 2 жыл бұрын
I paused to translate it to my mom, and she said "that painter is gonna get murdered" and then it happened and she was really happy about it lol
@apexartnerd7238
@apexartnerd7238 2 жыл бұрын
The arranged marriage as the main driving argument in this movie annoys me so much! Part of what I loved about mulan in the first movie was that she didn’t want to be different or break from the norm. She was happy to get married and live a ‘normal’ life. She only changed from the norm to save her father. It’s just such a big plot point and her character. They just threw it out the window.
@16poetisa
@16poetisa 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say she was happy, but they definitely showed a more complicated portrayal than "arranged marriage bad!"
@marinadeburgos8666
@marinadeburgos8666 2 жыл бұрын
I think she was most focused on trying to be a normal chinese daughter to make her parents happy
@solarian1873
@solarian1873 2 жыл бұрын
That’s so not true!!! She hated the geisha makeup, she never fit in!! Did you not see “Reflection”???
@chavitanwar2126
@chavitanwar2126 2 жыл бұрын
@@solarian1873 what you're saying is also true but she did try to fit in and wanted to do "what she's supposed to". That's what sets her apart from the rest of the Disney princesses. She's not a rebel, she's not breaking tradition or trying to establish a new order. She just wants to protect her father. If the " Huns" didn't attack, it's not like she would've run away from her home to "find adventure in the great wide somewhere", she would've just stayed with her family. It's definitely much more compilated than arranged marriage=bad.
@bobbirdsong6825
@bobbirdsong6825 2 жыл бұрын
@@solarian1873 she didn’t hate it, she hated not being able to live up to the expectations set for her by society, symbolized by her get up, which is not “geisha” in anyway. It’d have been like wearing regular makeup in modern times.
@kaya119
@kaya119 Жыл бұрын
Also, she declared the princesses dead. That means they can't go home. The emperor will now think that Mulan and Shang failed to protect his daughters. Even if they somehow did succeed in getting the treaty, his three daughters are dead. And it's not like they can just bring them back and act like that didn't happen, because if it got out that they WERE alive that would be a big upset. So, the princesses basically lose their family and their high status for three guys they barely know. The emperor is losing his daughters. And like Mulan and Shang are definitely going to be out of the emperor's favor.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 11 ай бұрын
Nobody thought this through.
@dustyrose192
@dustyrose192 7 ай бұрын
they;re def gonna die, not amount of those armour medals aint gonna do shit to save them
@elizabethpruden587
@elizabethpruden587 2 жыл бұрын
Disney: accidentally includes an era-specific detail Xiran: TARGET ACQUIRED
@pas-giaw6055
@pas-giaw6055 2 жыл бұрын
*_中国 intensifies_*
@user-Beans2017
@user-Beans2017 2 жыл бұрын
@@pas-giaw6055 google says that your comment is translated as: China intensifies
@tiara9624
@tiara9624 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-Beans2017 that’s probably what they meant
@chrono-glitchwaterlily8776
@chrono-glitchwaterlily8776 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-Beans2017 because they used the Chinese characters for China.
@arissamazumder
@arissamazumder 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-Beans2017 Thats because that's China in Chinese 😐
@NWolfsson
@NWolfsson 2 жыл бұрын
"I got blocked by a whole government." Weird flex, but okay!
@MammaApa
@MammaApa 2 жыл бұрын
This is easier than you'd think with china. Mention Tiananmen Square anywhere on your linked in profile and you are instantly blocked from viewing in china. I am sure this is true for other social media platforms aswell.
@TopDesert_ace
@TopDesert_ace 2 жыл бұрын
Every time she mentions VPNs and being blocked by the CCP, I'm tempted to get a VPN just to get on Chinese social media and rile up the CCP.
@timmyimmy5697
@timmyimmy5697 2 жыл бұрын
tbh that’s kinda of a power move, imagine being such a badass a whole country blocks you
@thebettermtvrockstar
@thebettermtvrockstar 2 жыл бұрын
yeah please don't aggravate the ccp, especially if you're a chinese citizen. it may pay a visit for some tea-
@olivialim7541
@olivialim7541 2 жыл бұрын
it sounds badass
@greca5903
@greca5903 Жыл бұрын
I can't quite decide what's my favourite sentence from this particular video... "No mom, we belonged to Mongolia" or "You know you've grown up when the adults in Disney movies start making more sense than the protagonists". They are both deserving of eternal remembrance, honestly.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
Xiran's got memes spilling from their mouth and I love it.
@bigfanofstuff3266
@bigfanofstuff3266 5 ай бұрын
the second one is so true, though. I spent almost the entirety of disney's Strange World yelling through the screen at the teenage protagonist; I could barely pay attention to the plot it was so frustrating.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 4 ай бұрын
@@bigfanofstuff3266 So...what the heck happens when the Disney protagonist IS an adult? I'm sure Hercules was an adult.
@kiwimusume
@kiwimusume 3 ай бұрын
“You know you’ve grown up when the adults in Disney movies start making more sense than the protagonists” is also the rallying cry of every conservative who turns their nose up at liberal themes in Disney movies, so my favourite part is Xiran’s jab about the USA losing the Vietnam War.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 3 ай бұрын
@@kiwimusume They could have meant France as well. Also, the right word is regressive, not conservative.
@Macaulyn_97
@Macaulyn_97 9 ай бұрын
I randomly remembered this video and got myself thinking that the way they portrayed the soldier trio as incels was such a waste, because they and the princesses actually had potential: - Now, Yao and Mei didn't have that much chemistry, it felt like they were pushed a little too much, so they'd need some serious rewriting. - Chien Po's very calm personality contrasting with Su being very energetic was cute. I just hate the fact that they bonded over liking to eat, because it was like "look, he is fat so he likes to eat a lot" and "look, she eats a lot but she is still very thin", but they could have been a cute couple with something else to bond over. - Ling and Ting Ting actually were the best ones, I love the idea that Ting Ting had a weird laugh and was probably taught to hide it because it wasn't "appropriate for a woman" or something like that and Ling would end up causing her to burst in laughter at one point he'd actually love her because of an aspect of her she was taught to hide. Hell, this movie would be better if Mulan and Shang were limited to cameos and the stories were focused on the trios meeting and having a better written love story.
@mitsusah2612
@mitsusah2612 9 ай бұрын
Nice to see others randomly coming back to this. :) I totally agree that Ling and Ting Ting had a good premesis. Sue and Chien Po could be just tuned a bit into them talking about favourite fruits or other culinary preferences and I think them being nerds about food like food critics would have worked well enough. The calm and energetic personalities do a big favor for them. Yao and Mei needs to be redone though. No idea how, but maybe something about Mei being able to see past Yao's looks like she did in the movie. Just more deep and let them actually talk more. Mulan and Shao not being central would be nice. Like them living their happily ever after and giving advice to the others. But I guess then the movie's name couldn't be Mulan II, if she isn't the main focus. 🤔
@snowangelnc
@snowangelnc 6 ай бұрын
@@mitsusah2612 Another option would be just to focus on Ling and Ting Ting and have Yao and Chien Po having more of a wingmen role. The whole premise felt very forced, the idea that there were three guys so there had to be three princesses and all three sets had to match up like socks in the laundry.
@kingace6186
@kingace6186 21 күн бұрын
Rewriting Chien-Po as an incel was so unrealistic. Mulan 1 Chien-Po was husbando material.
@hiitscupid3504
@hiitscupid3504 21 күн бұрын
i always thought yao and mei were really cute honestly
@mnk9073
@mnk9073 2 жыл бұрын
European nobles: "Oh no, I've already promised my only daughter to the King of France and now I can't cement our alliance with the HRE!" Emperor of China: "Hey chambermaids, all of you are now adopted! Yay, princesses! Now off you go marry to those pesky barbarian chiefs, byeeee!"
@NathanWubs
@NathanWubs 2 жыл бұрын
That is because europe is all about the blood. (which can also be linked directly to white supremacy) While china is all about the name.
@mnk9073
@mnk9073 2 жыл бұрын
@@NathanWubs Eh, not exactly; the Romans adopted people into their family like crazy and the whole medieval blood thing was more a "divine right of kings"-thing to justify why the empire should be ruled by a 9 year old...
@galuxius1861
@galuxius1861 2 жыл бұрын
@@mnk9073 I feel like there's a difference between Roman empire and family and more Britain based area of European.
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 2 жыл бұрын
@@mnk9073 I think blood based sacred kingship thing in Europe is mostly Germanic in origin (thought Ancient Greek nobles and Roman patricians all claimed blood of heroes and demi-gods). But yes, Romans were very open to adoption like East Asian aristocracy. Wonder what exactly was the thing that caused European nobility to mostly discard it.
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 2 жыл бұрын
@@NathanWubs linking it to white supremacy feels weird. Not like they claimed all black people were peasants and that all white people descended from nobles. Nobility-Commoners blood based class system and racial discrimination and supremacism being connected does not really hold up as an argument for me. There are similarities sure, but all forms of discrimination and supremacism do.
@foxmccloud89
@foxmccloud89 2 жыл бұрын
They did Shang dirty with that animation. Our boy didn't deserve that.
@victoriaogle9625
@victoriaogle9625 2 жыл бұрын
It looked almost like they recycled frames from the matchmaker in the first movie, which definitely bothered me as a child.
@tink6225
@tink6225 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like they reduced him
@ThexDynastxQueen
@ThexDynastxQueen 2 жыл бұрын
*Bisexual legend Li Shang
@vrinkee
@vrinkee 2 жыл бұрын
It's been a very long time since I last watched this movie as a little kid, so I always wondered why no one liked. Watching this, I've realized that the only redeeming factors that most people like are literally the only two things I remember about the movie: the song about the seasons and balance, and the dramatic/emotional scene where Shang "dies." Mulan's wedding outfit is pretty cool too, lol. They really butchered their personalities, eh? I mean, I like conflict in a relationship since it's a realistic occurrence, but the way they brought it up and resolved it wasn't so realistic/healthy.
@sundalosketch4769
@sundalosketch4769 2 жыл бұрын
@@vrinkee Issue was the conflicts in their relationship originated from just a conflict of solutions for an important mission then turned to slight sexism comments towards each other, with Mushu perpetuating it even further.. I feel they just really made their relationship too western for it to be seen as realistic for a chinese couple in their era.
@natashamorais6264
@natashamorais6264 2 жыл бұрын
"Bless her iconicness" and "white people tattoo nonsense" are my favorite lines. I'll use it on a daily bases from now on.
@ariel_the_terrible
@ariel_the_terrible Жыл бұрын
I love this woman sm
@Baldwin-iv445
@Baldwin-iv445 5 ай бұрын
@ariel_the_terrible Yeah whoever she dates has gotta be in extremely lucky.
@Baldwin-iv445
@Baldwin-iv445 5 ай бұрын
@ariel_the_terrible Yeah whoever she dates has gotta be in extremely lucky.
@AuroSya
@AuroSya 2 жыл бұрын
I want Xiran to write an animated remake of the Mulan movies. They're one of the writers I would trust.
@thatHARVguy
@thatHARVguy 2 жыл бұрын
A companion story to Iron Widow? Are Mulan and Shang drift compatible?
@Ilypookies
@Ilypookies 8 ай бұрын
Ya and she would have it be just as good
@ieatteeth5605
@ieatteeth5605 4 ай бұрын
Disney should hire her!
@jessephillips1233
@jessephillips1233 2 жыл бұрын
"If you haven't lost to Vietnam once can you even call yourself a superpower?" Best line in this - I laughed so hard
@naniandrea3344
@naniandrea3344 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao same
@RuralSquirrelJuror
@RuralSquirrelJuror 2 жыл бұрын
I CACKLED, it was genius
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it sure didn't work for Cambodia.
@rockyblacksmith
@rockyblacksmith 2 жыл бұрын
Though it's even more fitting for Afghanistan.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
@@rockyblacksmith Pretty much: Great Britain Soviet Union United States Mongol Empire
@toganium4175
@toganium4175 2 жыл бұрын
For all its faults, it's still better than the live action remake.
@Hana_H
@Hana_H 2 жыл бұрын
True
@JuFated
@JuFated 2 жыл бұрын
Mulan 2 is clumsy and a cash grab but it never claimed to be accurate or realistic, unlike the actually harmful and offensive live action.
@jovindsouza3407
@jovindsouza3407 2 жыл бұрын
At least Mulan 2 has a grand total of one good scene (Lesson Number One). Mulan 2020 has a nothing at all.
@GhostHunterDipperPines
@GhostHunterDipperPines 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, that’s true
@katet_33
@katet_33 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you and I couldn’t even finish Mulan 2.
@billie1129
@billie1129 2 жыл бұрын
i loved this movie as a kid. but only some moments : the little girls in the beggining, the princesses' designs and their little shoes, that scene where they go fruitpicking, Mulan's amazing beautiful stunning legendary wedding dress. but i wonder what made the people who worked on this sequel think kids wanted to see Mulan and Shang's relationship problems, Mushu becoming a petty antagonist to keep his job, and three couples with very strange relationship dynamics that i kinda want to unsee. all the while dragging our favorite bicon's good name through the mud by putting him in ridiculous situations. unacceptable.
@zephlodwick1009
@zephlodwick1009 11 ай бұрын
Indeed
@KiaishiNoKure
@KiaishiNoKure 2 жыл бұрын
Mulan is actually aware she is a Disney princess; she was gonna ask animals for directions in the wilderness 🤣 I love your videos, I have watched them all and constantly re-watch them when I draw or do chores!
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
But would that work on a Velociraptor?
@Sjono
@Sjono 2 жыл бұрын
“Mushu became the most selfish Disney character.” Kuzco: “Allow me to introduce myself.”
@gorg6151
@gorg6151 2 жыл бұрын
YOU THREW OFF MY GROOVE!
@anonymousname5860
@anonymousname5860 2 жыл бұрын
“I’m sorry but you’ve thrown off the emperor’s groove”
@amethia4121
@amethia4121 2 жыл бұрын
SOOOOOOOORRRRYYYYY!!!!!
@imveryangryitsnotbutter
@imveryangryitsnotbutter 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but at least Kuzco gets continually punished and humiliated for his hubris until he sees the error of his ways. In this movie, Mushu gets away pretty much scot-free with just a few temporary cartoon injuries and a mild scolding from Mulan and Shang.
@decapitated420
@decapitated420 2 жыл бұрын
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter and at least kuzco was a bit likable, he was funny whereas mushu just seemed more irritating
@ericlamburg6751
@ericlamburg6751 2 жыл бұрын
"If you haven't lost to Vietnam once, can you even call yourself a superpower?" Me (audible): Goddamn.
@alphahunterd
@alphahunterd 2 жыл бұрын
Vietnam is op
@francescogulisano2917
@francescogulisano2917 2 жыл бұрын
@@alphahunterd Vietnam and Afghanistan are the true superpowers
@razk9231
@razk9231 2 жыл бұрын
as an australian i giggled
@airotiv7916
@airotiv7916 2 жыл бұрын
I ABSOLUTELY LOVED when she said this, floored by the greatness of this line 😍💜
@MrDemonWorm
@MrDemonWorm 2 жыл бұрын
"Merci becoup, Xiran!"
@Droemar
@Droemar 2 жыл бұрын
"The alliance will crumble and the Mongols will destroy us." I don't know anything about Chinese history, but I do know Mongols. And it was my understanding that the Mongols were like "Wait, you're paying us because you can't defend yourselves? Then why don't we just take what you can't defend anyway?" For EVERYTHING. Cultural definitions of property ownership can really ruin your day.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
Coming from someone who is kinda an expert in Chinese history, you'd have an easier time teaching a bunch of trolls the alphabet than you would getting various empires(Jin, Song, and a bunch more I'm forgetting) of the 13th century to cooperate against the Mongol threat.
@SeruraRenge11
@SeruraRenge11 Жыл бұрын
From what I can tell what happened was the different empires were too busy fighting each other to fight the Mongols until it was too late. "The Jin are getting sacked? Good, fuck those guys!"
@renvocals
@renvocals 9 ай бұрын
It's frustrating to see writers move character development backwards. I mostly erased this film from my mind as a kid, but even just the screenshots at 17:16 are so annoying because the guys are supposed to have grown alongside Mulan - everybody remembers "Make a Man Out of You" and they were a part of it! They grew! Like Yao handing Mulan her stave instead of trying to trip her with it during the song, showing he's growing/softening up as a person. But now here they are still being toxic as if they hadn't learned anything; did the first movie even happen to the writers? Mulan suddenly hating arranged marriages when it was all she wanted at the beginning is also crazy.
@mystiquedarkholm3818
@mystiquedarkholm3818 2 жыл бұрын
"When girls say that they're not like other girls, what they mean is that they're not like the vaped, two-dimensional idea of women constructed in popular media by men" That was one of the most brutally honest smackdowns I have ever heard.
@nmg6248
@nmg6248 2 жыл бұрын
Then they proceed to turn the princesses and Mulan into said 2D caricatures 😬
@_stupidbro
@_stupidbro 2 жыл бұрын
@@nmg6248 Ironic when you think about it
@GTRNights
@GTRNights 2 жыл бұрын
Hell, I think it's ironic that so many people are trying to focus on how empowering it is for a woman to do combat, when traditionally, 99% of MEN are the ones dying in combat to protect said women. But you know, evil patriarchy and all that.
@jaimedreamsx
@jaimedreamsx 2 жыл бұрын
@@GTRNights Yes because all men start and go to wars to protect women, not because men like war or anything. Lol.
@GTRNights
@GTRNights 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaimedreamsx Point being that men are the ones fighting and women aren't, therefore women are profiting from the protection of men. I wasn't saying men go to war with the sole purpose of protecting women (though many do simply out of a desire to protect their families and country.) War isn't ever started by the men who fight. Wars are started by the men in power, and the men who fight are just their pawns in the game for more power. It's not like they have a choice. Especially in situations of conscription or draft. Myself as a US Army veteran of the 1st Infantry Division and US SOCOM, I can assure you, men don't "LIKE" war. Only a dipshit with no clue would think otherwise.
@xero1134
@xero1134 2 жыл бұрын
"if you haven't lost to Vietnam once, can you really call yourself a Superpower?" This was the quote I needed today
@wessmoore7894
@wessmoore7894 2 жыл бұрын
The added context makes it much less embarrassing to be sure.
@agent45625
@agent45625 2 жыл бұрын
In actuality, the Mongols probably lost to several known minor powers: Vietnam, the Mamluks, and Majapahit Empire (a Hindu Kingdom in what is now modern Indonesia) and of course, Japan.
@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight
@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight 2 жыл бұрын
@@agent45625 Not only that, but the Mongols in general had problems with stretching their power too thin across a very large empire (you could call that "suffering from success"). And they fell precisely because of disputes over succession, which weakened their central government in China and made them vulnerable to rebellions.
@jafaral-z1090
@jafaral-z1090 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight ironically, they ought to have learned from sun tzu
@digitaljanus
@digitaljanus 2 жыл бұрын
Vo Nguyen Giap was the greatest general of the 20th century. He defeated four great powers in as many decades!
@thatoneguy2886
@thatoneguy2886 2 жыл бұрын
that Vietnam dig was legendary because America's schools', politics, and society mysteriously fails to mention ANYONE fighting Vietnam
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
But James Leowen does! Read Lies my Teacher told Me.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 5 ай бұрын
Even if China, France, and South Korea aren’t superpowers, they are certainly close to it!
@HououMinamino
@HououMinamino 2 жыл бұрын
It really bothered me that Mulan was uncomfortable with the idea of an arranged marriage, when in the first movie, that's what she was going to the matchmaker for. And she even voiced this opinion in front of the Emperor. It seemed like the movie was really pushing the "arranged marriage=bad" angle, with the princesses even getting to marry the men they fell in love with at the end, but in the era Mulan is set, that likely never would have happened, especially due to the fact that the marriage was being arranged for an important alliance with another country. It also seemed strange to me that the Emperor was sending all three of his daughters off to be married, when the ruler of the other country apparently only had one son...or at least, we only see one son. What happened to the other two sons that were mentioned in the beginning? Honestly, I would have loved to have seen a twist in which the son of the other emperor is actually a sweet guy, and upon finding out that his betrothed is in love with another, sings a passionate song and vows to show how much he cares for his bride-to-be...and she overhears it and is moved to tears. Something like that. Or maybe, a six-man song comparing and contrasting the princes and the soldiers. Like, one prince sings a line, and then Yao sings a line, etc. Also, the princesses want to be like other girls? Other girls in China weren't free to do as they pleased. They still had arranged marriages. The whole song makes no sense. I always thought that Qui-Gong was Korea for some reason.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 2 жыл бұрын
But if it's Korea, then it should be to the EAST on the map not west. Also, in the late 5th century Korea wasn't a thing. There was Gorguryeo, Bakjae, Gaya, and Silla. And I agree that this movie doesn't make much sense.
@HououMinamino
@HououMinamino 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreygao3956 I knew about that; I thought maybe it was based on one of those kingdoms. Probably should have clarified that. The first one you mentioned came to mind. But you are right--if they were headed west, it couldn't have been one of those. I'd love to know what it really was modeled after, or if it was just "some other random kingdom in Asia somewhere."
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 2 жыл бұрын
Judging by geography, I would guess Russia or Kazakhstan but that falls apart when you realize none of those countries would have been Chinese inspired by the late 5th century nor would they even have existed! What is now Kazakhstan would likely have been Rouran territory in the late 5th century but no Russian state existed then, not even the Kievan Rus which was formed in 882! I’m lost here! This is a mess!
@HououMinamino
@HououMinamino 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreygao3956 Yep, the entire movie is a mess! The emperor sent them in the wrong direction, it seems!
@imyourdaddy5822
@imyourdaddy5822 2 жыл бұрын
Qui Gong isn't an actual place in fact the closest reference I ever found to it was an east Asian body healing method.
@ToruKun1
@ToruKun1 2 жыл бұрын
Mulan and Shang fighting over asking directions = BOOMER HUMOR ÜBER ALLES
@simpforshrek1864
@simpforshrek1864 2 жыл бұрын
Wenn das Deutsch auf einmal rauskommt
@DocKrazy
@DocKrazy 2 жыл бұрын
@@simpforshrek1864 ja... Passiert halt ne
@keineahnung6184
@keineahnung6184 2 жыл бұрын
Ah i see Ein weiterer German
@ayior
@ayior 2 жыл бұрын
No one: Germans: Hippidy Hoppity this Comment Section is now MEIN EIGENTUM
@cuongpham6218
@cuongpham6218 2 жыл бұрын
Ist jemand hier Deutsch-Asiate? xD
@pinkfeiry
@pinkfeiry 2 жыл бұрын
I am dying over the painter who got executed for painting a woman ugly XD Please never stop telling us these stories they're the best.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is real.
@TeruteruBozusama
@TeruteruBozusama 2 жыл бұрын
History is full of weird moments
@pas-giaw6055
@pas-giaw6055 2 жыл бұрын
Him makes her beauty go yeet The emporer goes him yeet
@user-Beans2017
@user-Beans2017 2 жыл бұрын
Not as weird as in the bible (and I learned this from my RE teacher) god sent a bear after some kids because they laughed at a mans beard
@alachedelmictlan648
@alachedelmictlan648 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-Beans2017 God in the Old Testament is pretty much like any other European god in that era. Just as brutal and just as self-centered. The goodie-goddie thing came with Jesus haha.
@lou-cidmire3065
@lou-cidmire3065 2 жыл бұрын
The reason these vids are so addictive is because you're not only critiquing an animated movie, you're teaching people little bits of history - like the I Ching divination thing had me invested for real. Also you have a cool & pleasant voice haha.
@cheezemonkeyeater
@cheezemonkeyeater 2 жыл бұрын
"The feather helps archers see the direction of the wind." And if they're in the opposite army, also help them pick a target.
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 2 жыл бұрын
Identifying the officer was a DEAD SERIOUS business so he more or less had to accept the risks.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean Жыл бұрын
An army that hides its officers is an army that can't follow its officers (unless you have radios or something).
@yetanother9127
@yetanother9127 Жыл бұрын
Being able to quickly get into and stay in formation was considered so important that making your officers identifiable to the enemy was considered an acceptable risk. In historical warfare, the formation is life; if an army's formation lost cohesion, they usually got slaughtered.
@guyjackson2062
@guyjackson2062 3 ай бұрын
Officers normally had better armour, which would have helped to mitigate the risk.
@InfectionFever
@InfectionFever 2 жыл бұрын
"I got blocked by a whole government." as someone from Hong Kong, niceeeeeeee
@ariahazelwood3842
@ariahazelwood3842 2 жыл бұрын
Stay safe! 💜 Our hearts go with you.
@a_gal.in.your.basement
@a_gal.in.your.basement 2 жыл бұрын
Ayyyy HK squad
@PColumbus73
@PColumbus73 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you don't get harmonized
@InfectionFever
@InfectionFever 2 жыл бұрын
@@a_gal.in.your.basement eyyyyyy
@kaylawoodbury2308
@kaylawoodbury2308 2 жыл бұрын
Like how badass can you possibly be, sitting there like a queen, head held high saying shes blocked by a whole country. Shes making me question my asexuality.
@leafbladie
@leafbladie 2 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the less awful Disney sequels, but it feels more insulting since it followed one of the best originals.
@darkangelprincess101
@darkangelprincess101 2 жыл бұрын
The only Disney sequel I like is lion king two
@hajimeisayamaisatruemurder1064
@hajimeisayamaisatruemurder1064 2 жыл бұрын
The worst sequel ever is still cars 2. -_-
@GhostHunterDipperPines
@GhostHunterDipperPines 2 жыл бұрын
@@hajimeisayamaisatruemurder1064 cars 2 is so bad it’s good, the Disney sequels in my opinion are worse because they’re just boring
@lenorabrown4702
@lenorabrown4702 2 жыл бұрын
Cinderella 3: A twist in time is still the best
@GottaGoBlast
@GottaGoBlast 2 жыл бұрын
@@lenorabrown4702 HANDS DOWN 🙌
@indigovae3579
@indigovae3579 2 жыл бұрын
i love how the video went from being an analysis of the cultural pros and cons of the movie to a film theory of when the movie was set. love it!
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 2 жыл бұрын
But that raises more questions!
@bleeding.shrooms
@bleeding.shrooms 5 ай бұрын
but that’s just a theory, a film theory!
@Ola-ib8iq
@Ola-ib8iq 2 жыл бұрын
12:21 I actually like this detail, because we can interpret this as Shang being in balance with his feminine side thanks to Mulan, and Mulan being in balance with her masculine side thanks to Shang. They balance each other :)
@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735
@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the script writers of mulan 2 were like: - Hmmm let's make an Asian movie - OK let's do mulan since it was popular at first - OK since its Chinese, let's add gender disputes - OK since its also ancient China, let's add stuff that looks Chinese (hit or miss)
@KarmasAB123
@KarmasAB123 2 жыл бұрын
Artists: *hopelessly try to rectify ignorance*
@TheNumnutRandomness
@TheNumnutRandomness 2 жыл бұрын
"OK since its Chinese, let's add dragons EVERYWHERE." "Well actually, the Chinese have this god of love and marriage named Yue-" "The Golden Dragon of unity commands you to shut up."
@ThexDynastxQueen
@ThexDynastxQueen 2 жыл бұрын
How come there are rarely ever lions in Western made Chinese media? We see the statues all the time in Chinatowns and know of the Lion Dance for New Years yet Hollywood always chooses dragons. Yeah dragons are cool but like...clearly the lion are important to Chinese culture so????
@Niobesnuppa
@Niobesnuppa 2 жыл бұрын
Then one of the office workers shows up one day with a Chinese finger trap, and is like "Guys, the label says it's Chinese! Let's put it in the movie!"
@kevinbayu7621
@kevinbayu7621 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThexDynastxQueen Serpent like dragon are usually associated with Eastern culture (despite the fact basilisk and lindwurm exist in western myth) whilst lions are more universal and less exotic.
@julian7247
@julian7247 2 жыл бұрын
So "bisexual legend Li Shang" is his full name? Thats canon now.
@misslangleysoryuisiconic
@misslangleysoryuisiconic 2 жыл бұрын
_When she said “Bisexual legend Li Shang”, I fucking laughed out and almost woke up someone in the middle of the night_
@keketski5430
@keketski5430 2 жыл бұрын
This is disney they cant be gay lmao
@ruuu_rooo1382
@ruuu_rooo1382 2 жыл бұрын
@@keketski5430 The animators: umm, chile anyways so-
@Faeriiexx
@Faeriiexx 2 жыл бұрын
@@keketski5430 I mean we have gay Disney now with the owl house and Luca
@keketski5430
@keketski5430 2 жыл бұрын
@@Faeriiexx is it confirmed tho
@fancycakes9253
@fancycakes9253 2 жыл бұрын
my family was broke and disney charged a ton for their actual films (when they weren't locked up in "the vault") so these were the disney movies we got for christmas i also started reading fanfiction at a young age and i remember even then thinking "wow its like someone's "post-movie" fanfic got fully animated"
@user-Beans2017
@user-Beans2017 2 жыл бұрын
0:26 we interrupt this video to show you an adorable ,interrupting, and non-suspicious cat who’s climbing all over the background
@bogmoth6899
@bogmoth6899 2 жыл бұрын
Xiran: I am going to tear this bad excuse of a movie into pieces and I am going to look majestic while doing so
@ipsumquaerere6927
@ipsumquaerere6927 2 жыл бұрын
And so they did!
@kaynecrimson1233
@kaynecrimson1233 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@peckypork
@peckypork 2 жыл бұрын
That's a Queen move if I've ever seen one😌
@redbomb3576
@redbomb3576 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: In some countries, Mulan 2 is ironically called Mulan: The final war. Despite the amount of war in it.
@fossilfighters101
@fossilfighters101 2 жыл бұрын
wow i'm so glad mulan and shang getting married ended all wars
@sweetbunnybun
@sweetbunnybun 2 жыл бұрын
maybe they tried to hype it up
@zainmudassir2964
@zainmudassir2964 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably because there was no marriage alliance so China got invaded. The End
@ChristianNeihart
@ChristianNeihart 2 жыл бұрын
You know, with a title like that, I would imagine Mulan would be fighting King Ghidorah in that movie after jobbing the rest of the Toho monsters. I am so disappointed.
@redbomb3576
@redbomb3576 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChristianNeihart Disney: Oh! A new property to own!
@silverblaze9049
@silverblaze9049 Жыл бұрын
When I brought up the fact that Shang had the yin pendant to my mom, she said that maybe it was symbolizing that they needed to embrace the other half of eachother. It’s a nice thought, but I don’t think disney was trying to be super profound in a low budget sequel.
@BlitzedPort
@BlitzedPort Жыл бұрын
So I decided to watch Lady General Hua Mu-lan after this video and it's SO GOOD!!! One part that struck me as especially wholesome is right as she's getting ready to leave for war, she really wants to learn some of her father's techniques but he won't show her because she's a woman. So she has it set up that her male cousin will introduce her in a disguise to her father as his "friend" who he'll be signing on with and asks that he shows the two of them some of his old moves, just so she can learn from him. It's really very precious.
@JuFated
@JuFated 2 жыл бұрын
I like to think whenever a Disney movie gets a sequel, most of the time the population suffers a plague inbetween so it's suddenly not as crowded in the next movie-
@ezekielsmith8603
@ezekielsmith8603 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my go-👁💋👁
@Demonic_Culture_Nut
@Demonic_Culture_Nut 2 жыл бұрын
Not historically inaccurate, especially with Pocahontas 2.
@elliel4736
@elliel4736 2 жыл бұрын
Oof.
@davidsteinmetz7256
@davidsteinmetz7256 2 жыл бұрын
That's because the sequels take the characters they have lovingly developed in the first movie and run them through the money making machines by adding a vomitted up plotline and sprinkled in with a dash of stupid humor all while shattering everything you loved about the characters in the first movie. ...it's really part of Disney's brand at this point, I'd be more surprised to find a Disney Sequel that didn't actually do this.
@mallardduckjrh8048
@mallardduckjrh8048 2 жыл бұрын
And with each of them the plague was called smaller budgets
@astrawwberri
@astrawwberri Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Not only do some Chinese people get offended when called by their full name, we also call anyone who is older than us (no matter related or not) aunt or uncle eg. 小明叔叔 (uncle xiaoming). The exception is for elderly
@larissabraz4056
@larissabraz4056 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda shocked to discover that Mushu isn't dubbed by Eddie Murphy in the sequence since I always watched it in the Brazilian Portuguese version and he has the same VA in both movies (whom is also the same guy that dubs Eddie Murphy in all his movies here in Brazil)
@Blokewood3
@Blokewood3 Жыл бұрын
Eddie Murphy was actually not allowed to play Mushu again because of a clause in his contract with Dreamworks for Shrek 2.
@crypticmrchimes
@crypticmrchimes 2 жыл бұрын
*Movie:* shows map *Xiran:* “I’m about to end this whole film’s dynasty!”
@kiamichelleee.
@kiamichelleee. 2 жыл бұрын
Ayyy 1K likes
@crypticmrchimes
@crypticmrchimes 2 жыл бұрын
@@kiamichelleee. Wait, WHAT? *HOW?!?*
@kiamichelleee.
@kiamichelleee. 2 жыл бұрын
@@crypticmrchimes magic 😌
@talonstride
@talonstride 2 жыл бұрын
@@crypticmrchimes It's straight-on perfect point of your comment relative to the video
@libeflu
@libeflu 2 жыл бұрын
Shang just turned into bridezilla out of stress, it's not his fault
@Niobesnuppa
@Niobesnuppa 2 жыл бұрын
Bisexual legend Shang just wanted the perfect wedding!
@hat7475
@hat7475 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't even watched the whole video (let alone the sequal) and now I'm terrified 😀
@victoriapulcifer6218
@victoriapulcifer6218 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno about yall. But I don't suddenly turn into a sexist when I'm stressed out. He literally told Mulan "I wouldn't want to chip your paint". Yeah I get he was sexist in the first movie too but they don't really address this like they do in the first film
@shroomyk
@shroomyk 2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that in a lot of Disney sequels, they completely change the characters' personalities to fit some kind of phoned-in, half-assed plot. Even as a kid, I noticed this.
@reimichacha
@reimichacha Жыл бұрын
A little late, but fun fact! The artist who designed Yao got his inspiration from his beautiful baby girl pit. It’s why Yao looks rough and scary in the first movie but sweet and love able in the sequel. It also explains why his personality makes him so fiercely protective of his friends.
@Beingmsvc
@Beingmsvc 2 жыл бұрын
New drinking game: Take a shot every time our queen says "Bisexual Legend Li Shang".
@Rachel-fi4sc
@Rachel-fi4sc 2 жыл бұрын
Don't do this. You will die. ;)
@abigailw7146
@abigailw7146 2 жыл бұрын
revision; take a shot of water
@julian7247
@julian7247 2 жыл бұрын
Are you telling me thats not his proper full name?
@nomisunrider6472
@nomisunrider6472 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: I saw the Mulan 2 trailer long before the actual movie, and Ting-Ting has a line in it where she acknowledges that she doesn't want this but that she will sacrifice for her people. It struck a chord with child me, how this woman couldn't fight like Mulan but seemed just as strong due to her conviction and honor, and even though it was just a single line I deeply admired her for her grace and selflessness. And then I watched the actual movie.
@estherramsay445
@estherramsay445 2 жыл бұрын
Can you send me the link?
@nomisunrider6472
@nomisunrider6472 2 жыл бұрын
@@estherramsay445 I'm pretty sure you can find it on youtube.
@misslangleysoryuisiconic
@misslangleysoryuisiconic 2 жыл бұрын
I need the warm sauce?
@thatweirdgirl8466
@thatweirdgirl8466 2 жыл бұрын
24:35 I like the freeze frame here showing how weird Disney movies are if you pause at the right time. All three of them have their eyes looking in different directions.
@CassiusSharp
@CassiusSharp Жыл бұрын
Shocking how accurate divination about quarantine was
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
But I will survive!
@janetai1277
@janetai1277 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine how different the sequel might've been if they followed ancient Chinese proposal/marriage traditions and the conflict was instead between the Li family and Fa/Hua family or something
@akinmytua4680
@akinmytua4680 2 жыл бұрын
Oooo
@MortMe0430
@MortMe0430 2 жыл бұрын
Or even if we'd gotten to meet any of Shang's family at all beyond his late father. He could have had his own whole-ass interesting supporting cast, but everything that could have made this movie better in terms of narrative was either cut or never conceived of.
@davidsteinmetz7256
@davidsteinmetz7256 2 жыл бұрын
Idk, I low key wanna say that families not getting along is soo beyond cliche in movies in general, but... it would have been much more bearable than what happened in this train wreck, so I'll allow it. Although I also don't know how any of that would work from a Chinese cultural standpoint and if Disney would have been able to (mostly) faithfully dictated possible conflicts between the two families. Is there any merit to a plot like this? I'm asking anyone who knows more than my ignorant self XD.
@acecat2798
@acecat2798 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine the emotional conflict between, say, Bisexual Legend Li Shang's more traditional military family and Mulan? Maybe his mom really likes Mulan personally but doubts her aptitude in the role of wife and mother. But Mulan proves that her compassion, cleverness and her teamwork with Bisexual Legend Li Shang would make them a great match! Or his grandma is very much a stick-in-the-mud and the B-plot is her and Grandma Fa getting up to cartoon hijinks? (Mulan's mom has to stop the grandmas fist-fighting in the courtyard). Add to this the real grief for Bisexual Legend Li Shang's dad- the fact that even though Mulan saved China, the invasion still had casualties. This would be great emotional drama and a smaller domestic story would be very doable on a slashed sequel budget- maybe throw in an action scene with some bandits or something if you have to but keep the focus on the family dynamics. EDIT: I just realized there's an epic scene built into the premise where Bisexual Legend Li Shang and his family ask the matchmaker to their house and she's fawning over a family of such high status asking for her services... and they ask her to open talks with the Fa family for the hand of Fa dumped-tea-in-her-face Mulan. There's also a built-in main character conflict because Mulan came into her own in the first movie, but she needs to maintain that space to be herself openly and honestly while knowing that some traditions hold great value and should be respected. What does she do with herself once everything's back to normal- can she inhabit multiple conflicting roles at once? Can she inhabit a role without being defined by it? (Yes.)
@davidsteinmetz7256
@davidsteinmetz7256 2 жыл бұрын
@@acecat2798 You had me at grandma fist fight XD I could get behind having TWO iconic grandmas in one show and have them throw down. If there's one thing Disney (And pretty much everything) does right, its the sassy grandma. Case in point? Xiran loved the grandma in this and made no complaints about her!
@Varoon1
@Varoon1 2 жыл бұрын
“She went off to the grasslands to become a legend and the emperor executed the painter”, this is why I love this channel 😂
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 2 жыл бұрын
Well that’s one asshole of an emperor!
@mimnimpetite8681
@mimnimpetite8681 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this movie as a kid but only because of the Shang "death" scene. I used to skip through the entire movie to find it and then just watch it over and over because I liked the angst. I didn't do that with any other movies I liked though so I think that may be a testament to how bad the large majority of that movie actually is...
@justincarawan-carawanco.pu1639
@justincarawan-carawanco.pu1639 2 жыл бұрын
9:58 "I thought you didn't gamble!" "With my mother, it's not gambling, it's an investment!" I *love* that line!
@jadedflames2809
@jadedflames2809 2 жыл бұрын
"I got blocked by the whole government" I love this energy, and it always makes me laugh
@wherefancytakesme
@wherefancytakesme 2 жыл бұрын
Even being a white kid, I knew the golden dragon of unity sounded like total bullshit.
@liarodriguez9119
@liarodriguez9119 2 жыл бұрын
I love seeing how different cultures refer to elders or people superior to one's self. I'm Hispanic and as per Cuban standards you usually call older people "senora" or "senor" (its not an n but hispanics will know) but for young people superior to you you can call them "senorita" or "senorito." This is a pretty common practice with strangers but it rarely ever carries on any meaning, its just said as custom. So most people will not find it insulting to be be referred by by their full names in most situations.
@evelianatalylinarezmora4882
@evelianatalylinarezmora4882 Жыл бұрын
Se que es un viejo comentario, pero como venezolana está, también quiero agregar el usted como forma de respeto, en especial a los mayores. Yo ustedeo al todo el mundo, hasta los niños, y la gente se hace la ofendida por que se les trata de viejo o es muy formalXD
@justincarawan-carawanco.pu1639
@justincarawan-carawanco.pu1639 2 жыл бұрын
1:41 As a guardian, he should be a stone statue waiting to be awakened by the gong! When the ancestors "demoted" him to ringing said gong, they were more punishing themselves because they had to awaken him and his mouth every time! They should have just put his statue in a corner, somewhere.
@desanipt
@desanipt 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, your friends pay rent to their parents? That's normal in North America?
@Rachel-fi4sc
@Rachel-fi4sc 2 жыл бұрын
I will copy my reply to an earlier comment, because I am still mad about it: My friends' parents think my parents are "too soft" for not charging my brother and I rent to /not move out of our childhood home/. We live in Auckland. There is a housing crisis. There's NO WAY most young millennials here can afford rent without major sacrifice / going hungry. But, no, my friends' parents still laugh at mine for not charging us hundreds of dollars a week, and they think they're "generous" and "kind" because they COULD be charging their kids market rates, which is closer to a grand a week. The friends who have moved out are barely keeping a roof over their heads, often by not being able to afford food consistently. Their parents do not give a single damn. Ah, upper-class white British New Zealanders are... I'm gonna say... interesting.
@Fallowsthorn
@Fallowsthorn 2 жыл бұрын
Generally (here in the Pacific Northwest, at least), this happens because a lot of people live in apartments and/or have mortgages that they need to pay for every month. The child, at this point a young adult ideally beginning their career, effectively becomes another roommate and is expected to contribute to the household income for food, utilities, etc, etc. My parents don't make me pay rent because I'm disabled and have no income, but it seems reasonable enough to me, inasmuch as any capitalism is "reasonable."
@amymanen5699
@amymanen5699 2 жыл бұрын
I did
@guy-sl3kr
@guy-sl3kr 2 жыл бұрын
That's neoliberalism for you. Western countries revolve completely around capitalism and there is immense pressure for the working class to work & consume as much as possible. The threat of homelessness plays a big role in forcing people to be compliant workers and people have been indoctrinated into accepting this as a fact of life. That's why many parents see charging rent from their children as teaching pErSOnaL rEsPonSibiLiTy instead of promoting an oppressive system. A family where every single member works a full-time job (even the young and elderly) is seen as upstanding instead of dystopic. Also this wasn't meant towards the people that genuinely cannot afford housing without everyone contributing. It really is absurdly expensive in most places
@rwar3206
@rwar3206 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a lot of people (especially American kids, from my experience) have had that experience. My step-mom threatened rent on me when I was still in elementary school lmao
@Xixi_the_princess
@Xixi_the_princess 2 жыл бұрын
“Why does this movie exist?!” ...So you can roast it like roast duck and feed it to us.
@TheKing-qz9wd
@TheKing-qz9wd 2 жыл бұрын
Is duck anything like turkey? Need to try some sometime.
@Xixi_the_princess
@Xixi_the_princess 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheKing-qz9wd Watching this video, it is probably like turkey. Don’t quote me on that though
@TheKing-qz9wd
@TheKing-qz9wd 2 жыл бұрын
@@Xixi_the_princess Eh, as long as it is better than turtle.
@Rainygirl3100
@Rainygirl3100 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheKing-qz9wd It's very similar in flavor and texture to dark meat turkey, yes. Maybe a little less dry
@tigress8562
@tigress8562 2 жыл бұрын
my friend was telling our class about the original fable, and the rest of our class started talking about mulan. so we had a conversation about it's accuracy, and i proceeded to give an explanation about this beautiful movie; he fully checked out at "the three princesses fall in love with the soldiers," like, do concubines and courting not exist in this universe? i mean i love the love story is cute, but like, happiness can be real with historical accuracy.
@powerpuff4ever
@powerpuff4ever Жыл бұрын
10:28 you don’t understand how much you crushed me by giving me knowledge of the vocal blackface in this movie. I knew it was a little off but now I’m hyper aware of it and I’m SO UNCOMFORTABLE
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
I’m not bothered by that; Mushu is just far worse in the second movie and much less likeable. Besides, this movie is unlikely to be canon.
@starcherry6814
@starcherry6814 2 жыл бұрын
Hey now, "I want to be like other girls" is a feminist anthem 😹🙌
@sentientmarshmallow4644
@sentientmarshmallow4644 2 жыл бұрын
Can we use the song as an anthem against the “not like other girls” folks
@bearlyalive9669
@bearlyalive9669 2 жыл бұрын
@@sentientmarshmallow4644 I second this
@starcherry6814
@starcherry6814 2 жыл бұрын
@@sentientmarshmallow4644 Absolutely But no one is allowed to do the "holding a lily" racist head movement tho
@eoghanfeighery7383
@eoghanfeighery7383 2 жыл бұрын
@@starcherry6814 Ya'll that scene was straight up rascist.
@alexanderjong2997
@alexanderjong2997 2 жыл бұрын
i read this wrong and i got mad at first then I laughed lol
@Wahzoozoo
@Wahzoozoo 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t get over how terribly drawn Mulan is, it’s like not even the same person!! They look so bad!
@ocean6828
@ocean6828 2 жыл бұрын
All of the straight to DVD sequels were opportunities for newbie animators, writers, etc. to practice before getting into “real” movies
@ultrairrelevantnobody1862
@ultrairrelevantnobody1862 2 жыл бұрын
@Ocean Some of the people who worked on these sequels also said strict budget and time constraints were why they turned out the way they did.
@dexa6623
@dexa6623 2 жыл бұрын
Please go easy on the artists. They didn't choose for this to be written so badly, and it seems like at least a few of them were trying hard with getting some stuff accurate. Generally movies like this one are made by their newer and less skilled artists to build some talent and confidence. They also wouldn't have put nearly as much funding into this movie as the original, so they were working on a smaller budget. The ones who were doing the racist caricatures suck though. The real fault goes to whoever decided to produce the movie, and gave the script the go ahead.
@ultrairrelevantnobody1862
@ultrairrelevantnobody1862 2 жыл бұрын
^This.
@EclecticallyEccentric
@EclecticallyEccentric 2 жыл бұрын
@@dexa6623 Someone working hard on something doesn't mean you should go any easier on the criticism.
@glasscardproductions4736
@glasscardproductions4736 2 жыл бұрын
28:53 I thought you said 'trope bridge', and that would have fit better than all of the jokes in this film.
@vampirefrompluto9788
@vampirefrompluto9788 2 ай бұрын
I've always felt like this movie was the result of 2-4 different movies/scripts getting mixed together with only a quick glance to see if it made sense.
@SMTH_After_All
@SMTH_After_All 2 жыл бұрын
The ironic thing about my feelings on this movie is that deleted scenes of Mulan 2 were actually more entertaining in my opinion. Shang proposed to Mulan when they were on a life or death mission. Still not accurate to actual Chinese proposals, but more entertaining at the very least. XD Also, the princesses in the deleted scenes were never in love with the incel trio and were just using them to escape their duty. Yeah, the princesses were more set on getting out of their arranged marriages in the original concept. Sure, they were being completely selfish in dooming China to war, but at least it was more realistic with their relationship with the incel trio. XD The princesses were more entertaining in the deleted scenes honestly, even if what they were doing was selfish. Honestly, it would have made a more interesting conflict with the whole message of the "my duty is to my heart" thing if they were trying to escape their arranged marriage instead of falling for the first guys they interact with in the movie. There's no saving this movie though and was better off scrapped.
@teresar6348
@teresar6348 2 жыл бұрын
I mean making it life or death makes it more reasonable as to why they divert from the norm rather than the more western proposal happening just because they felt like it. Incel trio was not needed at all like they could have just been inept at traditional husbandry or fail the test due to taking clever solutions (That happen to fail) like mulan did due to influence. Maybe they give up on the idea of finding someone all together/. Better the 2 trios don't show interest til later, keeping the selfish reasons for now.
@theanafront3746
@theanafront3746 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Listening to the art Team's commentary on those deleted scenes as a kid felt so much like they were trying really, really hard not to sound disappointed (...and like the Mouse _didn't_ have a gun pressed to their heads). Every creative and interesting idea they had was shot down by the Execs, and it's very possible that creative thought and effort was not even _allowed._ Its definitely a trend specific to all of the other Disney sequels, too.
@starrsmith3810
@starrsmith3810 2 жыл бұрын
I have an idea: Fix Mulan and Shang personalities (cut the duty to my heart bullshit) Fix Mushu being a selfish ass Don’t make the three bodyguards into incels Have the three princesses actually going to get picked for an arrange marriage WITHOUT the threat of China being destroyed
@SMTH_After_All
@SMTH_After_All 2 жыл бұрын
@@asdcwdfvrebttnyt2183 In my opinion, even as a kid I felt very odd with the fact Chien Po, Yao, and Ling getting gfs when they barely did anything to earn it (being part of saving China in the first movie aside, even then, saving a country doesn't mean you're entitled to anyone's affections in the slightest). It really felt rushed and it had the potential to be cute if the guys didn't feel very manipulative in trying to get the girls to go on dates with them after Chien Po eavesdropped on the girls' musical number. (Chien Po you're supposed to be the good one DX) Also, it just felt contrived during the dates the princesses just so happen to be the perfect woman for each of them. Especially Su, do you honestly expect me to believe a young, pampered princess knows how to cook for herself? XD Joking aside, it just feels forced to just show the women happen to be everything the boys ever wanted instead of just, you know letting them like them for them despite not being completely perfect for them like the song said! I liked the deleted version of the relationship better because it shows both sides as being selfish. It has the potential for both sides to grow past their selfishness and bond with each other. It could be a lesson of they may not be the perfect bride/husband, but they are perfect for them because they genuinely appreciate their company.
@starrsmith3810
@starrsmith3810 2 жыл бұрын
@@asdcwdfvrebttnyt2183 they low key were in the second movie. They were a lot more likeable in the first one.
@sparrowskeleton1831
@sparrowskeleton1831 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, “Valiant Upper Arm” is my favorite character in Disney movies.
@RozehKakes
@RozehKakes 2 жыл бұрын
wow i love Big Valiant Upper Arm 6 uwu
@cheezemonkeyeater
@cheezemonkeyeater 2 жыл бұрын
"The flower in the mirror; the moon on the water." Shit, that's good. I'm going to try to remember that one.
@qtpi6268
@qtpi6268 2 жыл бұрын
With the "I want to be like other girls" song, I related to that a lot. I was homeschooled and always wanted to "be like other girls," in the sense of I just didnt want to feel left out, and since they're princesses I can kind of understand where they're coming from
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
Problem is, princesses were if anything BETTER off than commoners!
@qtpi6268
@qtpi6268 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreygao3956 so...? I dont see what that has to do with my comment, could you elaborate please?
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
@@qtpi6268 It means that it would be bizzare for princesses to actively wish to be more like commoners...even though commoners would have been treated far worse.
@qtpi6268
@qtpi6268 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreygao3956 ahhh, gotcha. I see what you mean now. I do still really like the song but I see how the context of it is pretty weird.
@aylacrissman3443
@aylacrissman3443 2 жыл бұрын
Faithfully asking for you to review JACKIE CHAN ADVENTURES and AMERICAN DRAGON: JAKE LONG!! Please and thank you!
@Lunarchild00
@Lunarchild00 2 жыл бұрын
I second Jackie Chan Adventures
@Rachel-fi4sc
@Rachel-fi4sc 2 жыл бұрын
I second American Dragon: Jake Long!
@user-ie7vo1hj3j
@user-ie7vo1hj3j 2 жыл бұрын
I second the whole comment
@Alaninjas
@Alaninjas 2 жыл бұрын
I second the whole comment too
@jacobboski1768
@jacobboski1768 2 жыл бұрын
I third the whole comment three
@alistairmooncrest5018
@alistairmooncrest5018 2 жыл бұрын
"If you're a weeb...anime...you know of the red-string of fate." *glances at the XX number of soulmate AU fanfics across various fandoms in my history* This...was an anime thing?? 😳
@karaqakkzl
@karaqakkzl 2 жыл бұрын
Kimi no nawa
@user-ie7vo1hj3j
@user-ie7vo1hj3j 2 жыл бұрын
Always has been
@Nat-ls1uo
@Nat-ls1uo 2 жыл бұрын
Yes same with Hanahaki AU, they're from Asia
@missserenity1090
@missserenity1090 2 жыл бұрын
Your Name is a really good movie including the red string
@DGwildDog
@DGwildDog 2 жыл бұрын
Well it’s a Japanese thing, (I think?) and as a result used a lot in anime
@danielspitz9077
@danielspitz9077 2 жыл бұрын
I've learned (from the DVD's extra) that originally, the princesses were ment to be vile and use the imbecile trio for escaping the marriages, but they removed it though...
@ExodiaX5
@ExodiaX5 2 жыл бұрын
22:53 *"NO!"* - Hehe, love your work
@whatalsaid
@whatalsaid 2 жыл бұрын
Yo, they did shang dirty in this one. You know how the Prince from Cinderella became objectively better in the sequels? Well, the opposite thing happened with Shang.
@Phil-ni3ol
@Phil-ni3ol 2 жыл бұрын
31:01 Maybe Shang found the shuriken when they went through the Honshu Pass.
@technopoptart
@technopoptart 2 жыл бұрын
ok, now _that_ gave me a chuckle XD
@yuchuntang1471
@yuchuntang1471 2 жыл бұрын
That was really good
@evocircuit
@evocircuit Жыл бұрын
after several rewatches of this video, i actually watched lady general hua mulan and i enjoyed it a lot! the music was great and i liked how relatively comical some of the moments in the story were compared to how they were shown in disneys version, like mulan pretending to be her cousins friend and beating her dad in a fight, to which he immediately claims that she should go to war and that he'd take the blame and die for her if she was ever found out to be a woman while in the army
@Madkap42
@Madkap42 2 жыл бұрын
Ay, there's this series of mashups where an editor "cast" different animated leading ladies in roles from the musical Six. She's gotten two down so far (Holli Would as Katherine Howard in All U Wanna Do and Belle as Catherine Parr in I Don't Need Your Love), but she's planning to do the other four soon. And she cast Mulan as Anne of Cleves. I'm looking forward to that one with bated breath. To have enough animated material to work with, she'll probably have to draw on clips from Mulan 2, which in my opinion, is the one good thing to come out of this tragedy.
@roseevans4101
@roseevans4101 2 жыл бұрын
I love how mulan (1) was about feminine strength and underestimating people And mulan (2) was about hahaha married couples hate each other and fight over a road trip
@renesebastianpagsanjan3461
@renesebastianpagsanjan3461 2 жыл бұрын
When she said "why are they trying to pass the island of Japan?" I laughed so hard
@alicianagel3351
@alicianagel3351 Жыл бұрын
It caught me off guard so badly lmao
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know! This movie makes not sense!
@alicepbg2042
@alicepbg2042 2 жыл бұрын
20:09 - damn... that other kingdom is much further away than I expected... XD
@alicepbg2042
@alicepbg2042 2 жыл бұрын
32:23 - wait wait wait... a month?!? did they face 2 wars in the space of 2 months? against 2 different nations? 2 "we are doomed!" wars?!? and both are completely unrelated to the other?!?
@globmonster7905
@globmonster7905 2 жыл бұрын
Shang from the first movie was a tall general hottie, in this one he’s a part of Sims 4 whose afraid of squirrels. I have never been so disappointed, Mulan II is not canon I’m calling it now.
@gregorywiederecht
@gregorywiederecht 2 жыл бұрын
Xiran: "It's surprising that Shang got the Yin pendant, which represents femininity, and Mulan got the Yang pendant, which represents masculinity." Me: *knows this tidbit* "oh yeah, that is weird." Xiran: "I always knew they were a queer couple.😏" Me: *cackling as I roll on the floor* In all seriousness, your humor was especially on point with this video. I died at the story about the emperor who executed the court painter!
@heatherlee2967
@heatherlee2967 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this part as well XD
@gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227
@gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why she is the best🤣
@Tinuvielthefair
@Tinuvielthefair 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@zacharywood9416
@zacharywood9416 2 жыл бұрын
How is a cis man and a cis woman being together queer
@Tinuvielthefair
@Tinuvielthefair 2 жыл бұрын
@@zacharywood9416 because Mulan dressed up like a man in Mulan, and Shang was attracted to Ping just as much as he is a attracted to Mulan.
@cupofcozy708
@cupofcozy708 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, I kind of forgot there was a Mulan sequel movie
@jadeuwu9860
@jadeuwu9860 2 жыл бұрын
LOL SAME
@megadracosaurus
@megadracosaurus 2 жыл бұрын
Probably for the best, let's be real.
@InOzWeTrust
@InOzWeTrust 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't even know it existed to forget about it myself.
@Viva_Cynefin
@Viva_Cynefin 2 жыл бұрын
I never do it exsited-- I wish it stayed that way
@sunsetskye483
@sunsetskye483 2 жыл бұрын
None of the Disney sequels(for the classics) exist. They just don’t.
@jaggedjaws1586
@jaggedjaws1586 2 жыл бұрын
Okay I'll get to praising your criticism of this movie, but your advertisement in this video is singlehandedly one of the best sponsor ads ive seen. It makes VPNs sound like they should be illegal and i fhackin love it
@RodneytheOperaRat
@RodneytheOperaRat 8 ай бұрын
0:32 *The kitty in the video is so cute ❤❤*
@basementdwellercosplay
@basementdwellercosplay 2 жыл бұрын
Mulan: willing to be an arranged marriage herself for honor Also mulan: against arranged marriage to save the entire country from a future war and could save countless lives. Something tells me one would have more honor to it
@ToruKun1
@ToruKun1 2 жыл бұрын
Mulan be like, "My duty is to my heart" More like, my POOTY is to my FART! Amirite, fellas? 😂😂
@ErikMyLove
@ErikMyLove 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm adopting you. You're a princess now. Go" It killed me xD
@alachedelmictlan648
@alachedelmictlan648 2 жыл бұрын
"HELLO GIRL I JUST HIRED TO WORK TO SERVE THE EMPEROR-"
@ayonmukherjee5539
@ayonmukherjee5539 2 жыл бұрын
I commend your knowledge of your own culture, despite of growing up as diaspora (probably). As an Indian, when I look at non-resident Indians living outside of India, I am heartbroken at how little they know about their own (my) culture. You gained a subscriber today. Keep up the brilliant work!
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 Жыл бұрын
They should because Indian history is so badass!
@jeffreygao3956
@jeffreygao3956 2 ай бұрын
14:19 My guess is Proto-Siberian but the problem is that none of them were Chinese looking. I guess Qui Gong will be a riddle for the ages.
@AccentedCinema
@AccentedCinema 2 жыл бұрын
That's not a Ruyi. That's an "as seen on TV" Comfort Wipe. I refuse to accept another other explanations.
@vanessameow1902
@vanessameow1902 2 жыл бұрын
Ayy you're here! I love your channel.❤❤
@Speireata4
@Speireata4 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I couldn't remember where I had seen that shape, but it looked familiar. I would have never remembered that comfort wipe gadget!
@alext3811
@alext3811 2 жыл бұрын
"We were inspired by the house of mirriors in VERASILLES"! ... Wait, wrong video...
@francescogulisano2917
@francescogulisano2917 2 жыл бұрын
Collaboration with Xiran when?
@orrinmenkins2916
@orrinmenkins2916 2 жыл бұрын
People: So is the whole "Mulan acts like a teenage girl trying to hook up her friends and damns her country to war" the reason why the sequel is bad? Xiran, suffering for 79 minutes straight: *Weeeeeeeeeeeeeelll.* *Edit:* I spent exactly 10 seconds coming up with this joke, so here's something actually of merit you can look at on a comment with this many likes. Atomic Kitten sung a cover of the "I Wanna Be Like Other Girls" song that was available in a music video on the DVD features. Worth noting that this song changed a lot of the song to 'modernize' it for 2005, although one line in particular could have worked in the original song. "No hands folded perfect like holding a lily" was changed to "No people that think that they know me but don't" and... seriously, why didn't they just use the latter? It's way less racist and fits perfectly with the story they're trying to tell.
@NguyenNguyen-ro9xl
@NguyenNguyen-ro9xl 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I have to ask. I don't really get the racism in "No hands folded perfect like holding a lily" mostly since I don't even understand what it means haha
@adlirez
@adlirez 2 жыл бұрын
@@NguyenNguyen-ro9xl it’s how the girls sang it in the movie with a fake Chinese accent
@victorconway444
@victorconway444 Жыл бұрын
7:10 Honestly, that whole "full name being disrespectful" thing kinda makes sense. At least with parents in America, it's not uncommon for them to sternly call their children by their first, middle, and last name when they're angry with them. And if one person randomly did that with another person it would come off as a mix between extremely awkward and somewhat threatening. It's just so inappropriately formal, talking to someone as though you're with the IRS to confirm their legal identity or something.
@Grevnor
@Grevnor 4 ай бұрын
In hindsight, that I Ching reading was pretty spot on.
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