Everything GREAT About Dune! (1984)

[@cg1906]

"Its called everything great about x, not x is a good movie" is such a perfect and amazing way of describing the celebration of film that is this channel

[@davidw.2791]

Our host did one for Fant4stic after all.

[@RonGibbons]

i mean fuck they did the tomorrow war which hurts my brain to even think abt the plot

[@Treymander]

@@davidw.2791 yyyyyyiy66666866666666

[@Treymander]

@@davidw.2791 yCi

[@miminoran8948]

@@RonGibbons lol

[@BlackShardStudio]

"As well as Christopher Walken" this joke aged like fine wine.

[@LarenHagen]

You're right: he was definitely Walken (rhythm unclear) in the latest movie and he attracted so many worms.

[@lord_scrubington]

was thinking the same thing lmao

[@craigh5236]

The Space Guild Navigators (guys floating in the tank) don't fold space. They have an engine that does that. What the *Navigators* do is make sure you don't appear inside a star or planet.

[@stainlesssteelfox1]

"Because that would end your trip real quick, farmboy!" And while that's true in the book and the new version, 1984 Dune did it's own thing.

[@pitchayutxdd]

AKA: He's a biological navigation system, replaces radars.

[@beezzarro]

The navigator just blasts spice and looks into the future to determine which path or coordinates entered will yield a safe arrival

[@pitchayutxdd]

@@beezzarro Correct.

[@riChchestMat]

And nobody has ever complained about appearing in the centre of a star

[@Landrassa1]

Let's not forget how this movie spawned numerous excellent computer games, including the birth of an entirely new genre.

[@fendelphi]

Plus a lot of the visuals and props were used as inspiration for later adaptations(in various media). So while I dont enjoy Lynch's movie that much(so weird and changes a lot of plots and sequences), I have to respect the impact it have had on Dune content that came after.

[@markr8755]

Played Dune 2000 to death and was obsessed with Red Alert.

[@DarthBiomech]

"Harvester lost"

[@alvallac2171]

@@fendelphi *it has had I have had You have had *He/she/it has had* We have had They have had

[@fendelphi]

@@alvallac2171 I am not a native speaker(english is my third language), so please, please forgive me, if I dont have flawless spelling and grammar when posting a quick comment on youtube at 1 am.

[@cinammonstyx7622]

"Emperory? Emperorish? Emperorous?" Traditionally, "imperious," but those three are much better.

[@davidw.2791]

Zhukovesque. :)

[@josecopas]

imperial

[@Freelancer4tehwin]

I... unironically love this version of Dune. It has a certain quality to it like a recital of Beowulf, or the reading of a historical saga. It's a lot of "Paul was here and did this. Paul went there and said that." to it. It's stilted. But enthralling. And, for me, the sheer grandeur of some scenes - the music and the visuals - even though static, or perhaps because they are static, have the feeling of a great imperial hall, or a place burdened by a history of empire and rule. There is something about Lynch's Dune which, for me, captures better than anything else the sheer scale of the story. The fact that you aren't watching a tale about the rebel prince. You are watching the terrible, inexorable unfolding of history before your eyes. Like standing at the foot of the mountain and seeing the avalanche thunder down upon you.

[@rossh7186]

I almost completely agree with this. Except that my only complaint about the Lynch film (and this is saying something - it is my FAVOURITE film) is that it doesn't get the "terrible" part very much. "Muah'dib will bring love" ... hmm, not quite.

[@MSpotatoes]

I also love this movie, it's a huge part of my childhood

[@bajscast]

​@rossh7186 The script was more accurate to the original story, but plenty got cut out due to the producers. The infamous ending was mandated because they already cancelled the plans for lynchs dune messiah before rhe original was released

[@spacedinosaur8733]

“The mystery of life isn't a problem to solve, but a reality to experience.” ― Frank Herbert, Dune

[@wattsnottaken1]

Reminds me of all my deep Mushroom and LSD trips years ago. We’re so much more than this third dimension

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

@@wattsnottaken1nope, exact opposite. We ARE this 3rd dimension, and everything that matters takes place in this dimension. Did you not read the quote the OP said? Stop taking hallucinogens and live in the real world. The connections you make in real life are all that matters.

[@andybrooks7228]

I have to admit I love this film, for me it's pure escapism and sometimes that's all you need.

[@jackson5056]

The best part of Dune 84: When the electric guitar kicks in during the sandworm riding scene.

[@phousefilms]

Soundtrack by “Devo”,

[@ryan.1990]

Yes!

[@scofieldvictoria]

If there’s one thing everyone whose seen this movie can agree on it’s the great soundtrack

[@WickedScott]

Thank you for bringing the love for this version of Dune. I've seen it getting a lot of undeserved hate lately. It's very flawed, but has many wonderful aspects and is very memorable.

[@davidanderson1639]

To me, Lynch’s version captures the dream like essence of the novel. Yes it’s got flawed & it suffered massively due to Lynch not getting the final cut…..but it’s so good!! I’d also recommend checking out the Spice Diver Edit (that’s available on KZbin). It reintroduces most of the missing bits of footage that were used in the TV (apart from the TV cuts horrid prologue). It’s also broken into three sections like the book & has slight changes to the pacing.

[@sydposting]

Lynch’s Dune has such a unique flavor all its own. It’s clumsily-told, to be sure, but so beautiful to take in. Also it has a pug in it. Jodorowsky’s Dune makes for a great watch if you want to experience something REALLY different.

[@kreigguardsman3355]

Apparently Lynch will not talk about Dune

[@makishimasuamvs8548]

Or If you want to be bored out of your 8 year old mind watching

[@sydposting]

@@kreigguardsman3355 I don’t blame him at all. Almost all of Lynch’s works are from his own original concepts and feel intensely personal. Directing an adaptation of an existing work feels antithetical to his style. Even the screenplay for The Elephant Man had a narrative that Lynch helped shape.

[@CG-yq2xy]

I'm glad that I'm not the only Dune fan that knows that the David Lynch adaptation was a "corruption" of the Jodorowsky animation. If that animation actually made it, it would have been a Sci-Fi magnum opus in par with the greats. I guess some day we will see it.

[@Durahan82]

There was at least 4 hours of material , but the studio made him cut too much content in the 1984 version.

[@sheep2826]

11:40 After the new movie, I can unfortunately confirm that Christopher Walken does not thrive on Arrakis.

[@Cyril29a]

This movie is so odd. They took a huge book cut out most of it and still managed to make the movie slow paced. It is very confusing.

[@Avatar2312]

@@rytlocknroll We are talking about the 1984 adaptation.

[@testfire3000]

@@rytlocknroll Yes, I have read all the books. Lynch did not. This movie was total crap. There will always be Lynch fanbois who fawn over it and say how great it is, even though Lynch himself doesn't want to discuss it and is embarrassed by it. Did it have some similarities to the book? Oh yeah, whole segments were lifted, but there was a huge amount of utter nonsense added that nobody needed to see. Here, I will give one more Cinema Win for this version of Dune: I never have to watch it again.

[@robertnguyen2025]

This movie isn't for you than ..it needs for you to think about the scene ..having kisses and more explosive is your type of movie it seems

[@Cyril29a]

@@robertnguyen2025 Hey everyone, I found Brie Larson's youtube account.

[@testfire3000]

@@Cyril29a * High Five *

[@irontemplar6222]

10:57 That is actually not the reason. The reason is a bit deeper. You see one of the guards is infact deaf. He was chosen precisely because they know the Bene Geserit have power of people with the voice. So Jessica is guising her voice. Making sure that the deaf guard wont be tipped off. This is straight from the books funny enough.

[@TedMcS]

I’d love a EGA The Road to El Dorado! I loved that movie as a kid and felt like it’s always been underrated

[@Cadefullerton14]

i love that movie

[@Texass117]

I like the part where she blows that one guy

[@kitchenmom]

Lynch’s Dune is insane and I love it. It's one of my go to movies. I love the books and I can't wait to see the new one, but there is just something about this version that makes hubby scream Muad'Dib when I destroy something in our house, talk about the spice must flow when I season the meat for the grill, and he does not even like "nerdy" stuff like that.

[@rossh7186]

That's great taste and a marriage I hope to emulate one day.

[@FrequentUser99]

Should’ve seen this one coming and I’m guessing by the “water” hint that next week will be Luca. I hope we also get Everything Great about Cruella, The Suicide Squad and In The Heights soon!

[@stormqueen29]

I think the "silenco Bruno" hint pretty much confirms it.

[@connor48880]

I hope he does that Guy Ritchie Sherlock Holmes movie Or anything by Quentin Tarantino (might be too spicy for KZbin).

[@michaelcubed]

In the Heights is a must

[@jordanhunter3375]

Or Atlantis. But yeah, yeah, Luca would make sense

[@thesultanofswing8706]

I don't know how much good even this guy could say about Cruella.

[@phousefilms]

The “Everything Great About Atlantis”must flow. Remember the true hero of the film, Pug Atreudes. Entered the battle with Gurney and survived all those years on Arrakis.

[@superj1010]

My family watched the original recently to prepare for the remake, and we now have a running joke where we say "Take a shot" every time someone says "Spice."

[@jasonblalock4429]

And then you develop the red-within-red eyes of alcohol addiction.

[@nicolaierikqvist-lygumtoxv3144]

The Walken comment is even funnier now that he has been cast as Padishah Emperor Shaddam

[@egalomon]

So much Dune content on YT these days, I love it!

[@FrequentUser99]

Well it is very topical

[@A.R.77]

12:58 ~ How Sting kept a serious face holding that cat milking device is beyond me...not to mention every other scene he looks like he's about to bust out laughing at the absurdity.

[@vwgames49]

Fun fact, the entire Dune franchise is based on a pun _”Melange”_ in French means _Mixed_ or _Variety_ The Spice has the ability to extend one’s lifespan So Dune’s main theme is “Variety is the Spice of life”

[@ryanzillmer8511]

@@jakethet3206 Mixed with a not so hidden allegory about oil and the middle east. At least until you get into the cloning philosophy, BDSM Nuns, and diabolus ex machina.

[@vwgames49]

@@ryanzillmer8511 The book was written in 1965 so the Oil in the Middle East allegory was probably accidental

[@enegmatixerebro]

Well done 🍻

[@Feefa99]

....and stagnation is death

[@vwgames49]

@@jakethet3206 I guess the message just aged really well then

[@woogha]

This makes me want that "Everything Great About Dark City" even more.

[@slartimus]

...Oh. I wonder if that's what the "water" hint for next week was about, given Shell Beach and the Strangers' fear of water?

[@woogha]

@@slartimus don't give me hope. Lol

[@bluelagoon1980]

I love what you had to say here. You make a lot of good points. I'm a firm believer in the right to enjoy movies and books even when they are not "good." I had fun with this version of Dune, but my first introduction was my mom asking me to tape the mini series for her and not being able to turn away from the screen. I asked my mom if I could borrow the book from the library and she smiled and said "top shelf, sweetie." We had our own copy, still in my posession 21 years later despite how hard I am on books. It was late but I read the whole thing that night and was instantly obsessed. I've read it cover to cover over 30 times, and go back to favorite passages often. My English teacher loaned me her copies of Dune Messiah and Children of Dune, and I blasted straight through those two and onto the library to get the last three. I love the whole series, especially the improvements in the characterization of women in the last two books. Some of what was written of women in the first book had me like "shit, this is tens of thousands of years in the future, and yet so obviously 1960s."

[@ChaosTicket]

The shields DO come up again in the movie. You show the scene Duncan Idaho uses a shield while fighting the Sadaukar before taking a lucky/precise shot to the head. Shields are important in the backstory to explain why people use low-tech and melee weapons. When everyone has Shields to protect against "normal" weapons and the effect Lasguns have on shields(nuclear explosion) melee weapons are the most effective weapon. You should see Mr Welch's video on the Dune roleplaying game and the Atreides Battle Pug.

[@lordinch8282]

Ive been wanting to get into Dune before the new one comes out, nice

[@Real_MisterSir]

"before" ? It's been out for a month or two by now :I

[@dkeuro9543]

@@Real_MisterSir in the US it just came out yesterday

[@Real_MisterSir]

@@dkeuro9543 Ohhh shit didn't realize it was that far apart, gotta be due to covid I guess

[@cleverlydevisedmyth]

11:40 dude how did this guy foresee that Christopher Walken would be walkin' without rhythm in Dune part 2? Also, now I imagine all Sting songs as being about Arrakis. Desert Rose, anyone?

[@Serenity_Dee]

"muppets but with STIs" no, that's a Peter Jackson movie, Meet the Feebles and I am in no way joking - that's *literally a plot point* I saw this movie before I heard he was making Lord of the Rings, and so the time between the announcement and the first LOTR trailer dropping was full, in my mind, of some truly surreal images

[@Hippohydra]

Jackson's early films, especially Meet the Feebles, are such a weird contrast to the epic focussed LoTR and post LoTR films - I love them all though, especially Braindead (Dead Alive in the states).

[@ZakRobinsonMusicOfficial]

Can confirm; Toto is definitely worth getting into. As great as “Africa”, “Rosanna” and “Hold the Line” are, their back catalogue is absolutely stellar. Fun fact; on their 40th anniversary tour, they performed “Dune: Desert Theme” live :)

[@CrAsHeD69]

Don’t care about it’s flaws, one of my most favourite movies ever

[@CantankerousDave]

I saw this in the theater when it first came out. They gave out little pamphlets with vocabulary explanations. Also, creepy little Alia grew into Alicia Witt.

[@thorinmesser]

That also I think is a simpler explanation of why the character's hair is red. :)

[@momkatmax]

I saw it in theater and they were not handing out the pamphlets. This was the cut sans inner dialog and with a couple of cut scenes left in which made it flow better. At the time, long films made people restless so there was an intermission. Later showings had the pamphlets and inner dialog.

[@momkatmax]

​@thorinmesser According to the book, her Grandpa is the red-headed Baron through Jessica.

[@emptycaster4905]

"Stilgar do we have nerd sign?" "Usil we have nerd sign the like is which even God has not seen."

[@patinho5589]

Never* seen.

[@BWEEOOP]

Fun fact: The stilsuits from Dune (1984) were recycled, and used as the costume base for the Borg in Star Trek: TNG

[@Texicus_Reddicus]

if the baron doesn't scream "he who controls the spice controls the universe" while floating upward.. I'm getting a refund

[@retrosquadchannel2.050]

Nope. There was none of it. - Baron, the Emperor has removed us from the Arrakis! - Okay. - That was the FRAKKING reaction on emperor's order. Although no one mentioned, that was planned from the start.

[@rossh7186]

He doesn't. Or even "He'll look into these eyes, and he'll know - HE'LL KNOW! - that it is I - Baron VLADIMIR Harkonnen! - who encompasses his doom!" I mean, throw me a bone here

[@GeoffreyofCastille]

Warts and all, I still love this version as it led me to read the books (and the Toto score is absolutely awesome). Looking forward to eventually hearing your thoughts on the Villeneuve film (I just caught it last night in the theater and rewatched again today on HBO Max and love it!), wondering if you think you might do a video or two on the miniseries?

[@GKFootball_Master]

Since you mentioned about the importance of reading and knowing source material in your video, may I suggest doing a Cinema Wins video on Steven Spielberg's "Adventures of Tintin: the Secret of the Unicorn", as an example of adapting a story to the movie medium correctly. The Adventures of Tintin comic series has a massive cultural influence in Europe (unfortunately not in USA) so I'm sure many European viewers would love your take on the movie. It is an absolutely great adaptation with great cast (Jamie Bell, Andy Serkis, Daniel Craig, Simon Pegg, Nick Frost and etc.), great music by John Williams, great everything and is super fun, even to a viewer who never heard of Tintin before. I think it's a masterpiece and would love to see you do a video about it. On a side note, it would be cool if you did a video on one of the old Jackie Chan movies (Iike Project A for example), since his Hong Kong action movies are really fun and easy to watch.

[@erichfiedler1481]

I'd also love to see him cover more hand-drawn animated films, with one I highly recommend is actually 3 of them known collectively as Cartoon Saloon's Irish Folklore Trilogy, the films in question are 2009's The Secret of Kells, 2014's Song of the Sea, and 2020's Wolfwalkers. While all 3 have similar elements (child protagonist with a female companion that's more mythical, a stern yet protective father figure, Irish myths being real, etc) the stories themselves are unique and worth watching

[@CantankerousDave]

I’m American, and I grew up on Tintin and Asterix books from the local library. The down side is that I reflexively used their UK-English spellings for the longest time.

[@GKFootball_Master]

@@CantankerousDave Oooh, having a Cinema Wins video on "Asterix and Obelix" will be great to see (especially the first one), but I've never read the comics, so I'd prefer Tintin, since it holds a special place in my heart. Also, reflexively using British English isn't a downside ;)

[@arklytte]

15:19 Best joke in the video!! I laughed so hard, I nearly choked. My wife asked just what the heck I was watching, and I couldn't answer her for at least a minute or two. Two thumbs way, WAY up dude!!

[@kristopherriemer4807]

Dude I'm so over the moon that you loved the SciFi mini series too. It's clearly just for Dune book fans but I own it on DVD and have probably seen it 12 to 15 times.

[@byghostlight0]

I love the Lynch film as much as I love Kubricks The Shining. Both great films. Both dreadfully terrible adaptations that betray the very point of the source materials... where as LoTR does detours, but is so overwhelming faithful and in love with the source, the detours reflect the greater point.

[@RaptorJesus]

I'll never understand why some people complain about the changes in Jackson's LoTR, and I say that as someone who's favourite book is the Silmarilion. The man had to turn *Tolkien* into a coherent film. The task was Olympian, the fact we got the truly incredible, breaktaking films we did is frankly some kind of miracle.

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

Thing is Frank Herbert HIMSELF wrote the movie script. Since he KNEW what could be filmed and what not. The Shining was an entirely different thing that didn't have King involved.

[@matthewsawczyn6592]

@@RaptorJesus THANK YOU. My biggest pet peeve. Like... could anyone have done better? Those films are cinema gold.

[@tsukopara2054]

@@RaptorJesus There's also the never acknowledged fact that Jackson quite literally filmed everything. The weird dreams, some of Tolkien's clunkier dialogue, Tom Bombadil, book accurate variants of scenes, he quite literally did everything. He's been open for years that *his* ideal version of Lord of the Rings has everything from both the books and the cut movie content thrown in. Ultimately though, he had to be careful in what he chose because some of the book's scenes and moments didn't work in the movie, whereas some of the planned movie exclusive content didn't work in accordance with the books. The studio also mandated a lot of the book content be scrapped before post production began. The Hobbit may be critically panned, but Jackson is one of the most talented filmmakers in film history.

[@phantomzone2725]

@@KRAFTWERK2K6 David Lynch wrote the script (It is on the opening credits). Frank only wrote the novels. Also I don't think he had any involvement with the script aside of accepting one of Lynch's drafts

[@irontemplar6222]

10:00 if I recall correctly the design team frustrated with David linch asked him to give then some kind of direction on the design. Linch kept telling them to just pick something. The design team said that it wasn't that simple they need constraints to work under to produce a good design. David the proceeded to just grab a random historical book with illustration slam it open to a random page and go "here. This is what house Harkonan looks like." They then proceeded to do each of the houses and groups like that.

[@loganbigmo]

Lynch* not Linch

[@irontemplar6222]

@@loganbigmo linch because he's a lich. XD. Serisly though. I don't care

[@plebisMaximus]

I never read the novel or watched any other adaptation, I just came by this one on Netflix a few months back and I absolutely loved it. Interesting story, super cool world, fantastic music and amazing visuals. I can see why it's not for everyone, as you said, the pacing is really weird and it's kinda campy, but I personally love it.

[@rossh7186]

There will never be another film like it. My all-time favourite. Great comment!

[@shinymelon4610]

I hope one day you do Everything Great About Cinderella Man since it's in my opinion a great movie and the only recognition it gets is being shown in history class to a bunch of 9th or 10th graders.

[@rogueguardian]

"it's art you don't always have to love it, just experience it" - Lee

[@deadcard13]

Appreciate all the metal references, especially since the trippy space hand inspired the album cover for System of a Down's self-titled debut.

[@ileutur6863]

There's an entire band inspired by Dune, called Dvne

[@rossh7186]

I always wondered if it did

[@MichaelMaxwell747]

Kyle is from my hometown and I was blown away by his performance as Paul MuA Diib.

[@theth1nm1ntnetwork71]

"What's in the box?" EGA: Oh no! Brad Pitt: "WHAT'S IN THE BOX???!!!!" Me: FINALLY!!!!

[@Hykje]

In the box, there is pain -in both Dune and Seven.

[@amuse890]

This movie was written as if someone wrote an Opera about Dune . It feels like this should be on a stage.

[@AstraVex]

Crazy to think that crazy box shield effect is only on-screen for a minute and it took nearly a YEAR to animate. _Without_ computers!

[@jeebsy718]

Dunno which cut it was in, but the most memorable piece of ACTING in the 1984 film is when Gurney/Patrick Stewart calls for the atomics. Brian Blessed would have thought it was slightly OTT

[@zeroone8800]

Dark City is the perfect Tech Noir. It is 100% noir and 100% science fiction.

[@eddysandland58]

Classic Film

[@Mike-zd8wq]

That space navigator looks like he's in dire need of a bong hit transplant.

[@Romanplaystation]

Dear Cinemawins: You'll likely never see this but watching your Edgar Wright videos again, has made me pine for your input on another British Filmmaking treasure; Ben Wheatley. Kill List, Sightseers, A Field in England, High Rise, and Free Fire may not get the best viewing figures, but it sure would please your loyal subjects on this side of the pond. Keep on Truckin', sir. We love you.

[@AlekHenderson]

Don't forget In The Earth

[@Romanplaystation]

@@AlekHenderson Not actually seen that yet, I just named a few of my favourites. Definitely on my 'to watch' list. In fact, I'm gonna check if it's on Prime right now. Thanks for the reminder.

[@EvilSandwich]

Can I just say that Jack Nance was such massively talented character actor, that in almost every single role I have ever seen him in after Eraserhead, I have to do a double take and say, "Wait, what? THAT'S Henry from Eraserhead?!"

[@rossh7186]

I missed Nefud in the recent one. That scene where he is reassuring the Baron he's alive in this film is just great.

[@brick7560]

WAIT. It's gone recursive here. Walken was in a music video that referenced Dune, and now he plays the emperor in Dune 2

[@tuxcat5387]

Looked for this exact comment 😂

[@logandarklighter]

The Guild Navigator and the Folding Space segment are clearly the MOST "David Lynch" parts of this movie. Like - they were left to post production to add in and the producers just shrugged and said "Look, we're tired of reining you in, David. On these bits - just go all out and do what you want."

[@GoodOlGranite]

It's been a few weeks since I last suggested the Captain Underpants movie video, so I'm doing it again now. Great video as always, I'll see y'all next week in the comments of the next video!

[@DochertyStephen]

I think it’s really lovely to see the Lynch version finally receive the love it deserved. For decades now, me and my mates could never fathom why it was always tarred and feathered by the ‘supposed’ critics and TRUD FANS alike. The scene of the Navigator will always have a sacred place in my heart, as it epitomizes what Dune is actually all about, and their reason to personally visit the emperor is the catalyst for the story - none of which is truly given any credence in the nearly six hours of the new movies. The music in the 84 version is also some of the best in cinema.

[@Wdomino]

Im so looking forward to your take on the new movie. That was just such an experience. I remember watching this one some years ago to go by my "sci fi bucket list" but boy I did not understand anything and like Blade runner...... it just didnt stick. Boy did Dune 2021 get me. It sooo deserved a remake of this quality and I hope this will be our new Saga for years to come.

[@Argumemnon]

Interestingly you posted this just as I watching this movie. _Un_fortunately I'll have to wait till next weekend to see the new one, as all the seats are taken for tomorrow's showings. That's a good sign for Part 2.

[@a.l.finkbeiner8253]

Watching this movie was what finally got me past the first 50 pages to actually finish reading Dune - just so I would know what the heckie I'd just watched! XD

[@Icelandrobot]

As a fan may I recommend the 5th Toto album Isolation. The cover for which was done by David Lynch if memory serves. Anyway just wanted to say thanks for the positivity you inject into the world with every video! It's contagious

[@LeonardoKlotz]

They should let Denis Villeneuve adapt RENDEZVOUS WITH RAMA

[@inviktys3971]

Seeing his Biots would be terrifying

[@weldonwin]

@@inviktys3971 Though the Simps would probably need to be renamed

[@inviktys3971]

@@weldonwin lol

[@DarthBiomech]

Holy shit yes.

[@psynide]

You called it

[@petrsevcik5044]

In the books "the Voice" sounds like speaking, because it is just speaking. Only with carefuly chosen tone and position to subcontiously compel people to do things. (Or at least that's how I understand it)

[@marvache9652]

was not ready for that space pug song but I am here for it HAHA

[@TotalZeroTolerance]

Every time I see the moment with the box, no matter from lynch, miniseries on latest dune, when reverend mother say "put your hand into the box" I see Eric Cartman saying " Put a dollar into the boxaaaa!".

[@flaagan]

While the new Dune looks amazing, I still prefer the '84 version. So much better a film. So cannot stand people hating on this film.

[@RealArcalian]

I remember after part 1 of trhe new version came out people were like "oh this version is so much more faithful to Herbert's work" (which wasn't true even then) and then part 2 came out. Villenueve was like "hahaha you thought"

[@WanderlustZero]

@@RealArcalian Villeneuve was like 'THE RIGHTEOUS?!!'

[@RealArcalian]

@@WanderlustZero"IT'S NOT HOPE!" was way more over the top. And let's not forget half of Batista Rabban's dialogue and the eye-gouging film negative version of Geidi Prime

[@MrGlenbw]

11:38 Ooooh, that moment really ages well like wine...

[@DiegoRedeemedLover]

I am once again asking for Everything Great about Ice Age (2002). The studio that made it closed this year, it'd be nice to see some appreciation for Blue Sky and their movies!

[@Rheubie]

LOVE the call out to I'm Free (Heaven Helps the Man), a song with: 1. A man who dreams (prescient dreams/visions) 2. A focus on eyes (the blue eyes of the Ibad) 3. A man who fights his fear (the Litany Against Fear) 4. A man who stays where he is out of love (Chani's fate) 5. Virginia freakin' Madsen (Princess Irulan).

[@ninjabreadman1993r]

Now, Dune is an amazing movie. BUT I STILL WANT PRINCESS BRIDE! I've been requesting it for over a year and I'm not gonna stop any time soon!

[@monicavix6036]

I know I'm most likely the only one asking for it, but what about a video about the new Violet Evergarden movie? That movie is 100% something else in my eyes, even if the most emotional parts get sucked out if viewed in a vacuum away from the main series. I'm not really the type to cry with media, but that two and a half hour long movie got me crying FIVE TIMES. Additionally, the fact this intense orchestral soundtrack came from three countries (Japan, Germany, and Czechoslovakia iirc) is stellar in of itself.

[@Ihrgoth]

I rented this and watched it on a whim on a Saturday evening. There are worse ways to spend a Saturday evening. It was worth watching, but I probably will never watch it again. Now Villeneuve's Dune Part 1, I am about to go see it a second time in one weekend, and will definitely watch it multiple times.

[@ryanotte6737]

Yeah, when a person watches the 1984 Dune once, they are scarred by some scenes for a lifetime. I mean, what the Baron did to that servant's heart plug cavity... 😵

[@danielcharnock8975]

This is way better than the "everything wrong with dune" video solely on the fact you actually reference the book... bravo sir loved this video

[@TheOnlyToblin]

Okay. This...this is a brave one. I love this movie with all my heart, but we all know it's a cinematic disaster and nothing on screen even remotely matches the books. Still. I'm here for it. Bring it on! Tell me why I should love this (I already do)

[@Planag7]

I'm forever grateful for this movie because it was due to this movie that Dune 2 existed which was one of the earliest RTS. Followed by a remake as well as a sequel that was amazing

[@erbsenthron]

I saw the new movie a few weeks ago and my dad was so mad I hadn't seen this movie yet, so he made me watch it. The best way I can describe it is as a fever dream. This movie stopped making any sense to me after about half an hour, and at some point I think the scriptwriters realized: Oh no, we only have 20 minutes of screentime left, but aren't even half done telling the story... ah, it'll be FINE. And just cut stuff left and right. I think Chani has a total of about 3-5 scenes in the movie, and goes from "who the F*** is this dude" to "I love you Paul" in a single scene, which was the point where I just gave up trying to understand what was happening. I think my father has VERY rose-tinted glasses when it comes to this movie, but even with all the flaws it has, it does have some redeeming qualities with its practical effects, and just the "weird factor" it has. Also: SPACE PUGS

[@rossh7186]

It does all make sense - but admittedly, you probably need to watch it more than once. Not standard movie making practice - but why DOES everything have to made sense on first viewing? Once you've watched it more than once, I guarantee it has something new for you with every repeat viewing.

[@MirandaAndUh]

19:18 - Lynch did actually read the book, but he hadn't before the producers asked him to do it. He agreed to after he finished reading.

[@CrapE_DM]

I wish more book adaptations would be willing to do thought voice overs.

[@rossh7186]

I don't see what the fuss is about it either. People say it's over-expositional for film. I mean - can't movies chose to do this occasionally. It's done in such a great way in Dune. I just dislike the idea that people have gone "This is a rule we don't break in film=>this is bad in this film", without actually looking at whether it works.

[@JavierChiappa]

8:34 Yeah, there are many details about the stillsuits in the books. The one that got my attention was using the breathing motion to circulate cold water around the body to cool it, and the use of pressure pumps in the boots to filter the water, all of that is very doable.

[@marinelli2197]

Just watched the new Dune, 2.5 hours wasn’t enough I need more and I can’t wait for the next one!

[@Jaenoe818]

11:38- knowing christopher walken is supposed to play the emperor in part two makes this so much better

[@feedmefather9062]

Perfect timing, I get to watch this with dinner

[@joshmciver4847]

Funny, I did too!

[@needamuffin]

Say Villeneuve's Dune yesterday and enjoyed it, so when I saw this pop up I thought "Yeah, I'll watch that." Started it and remembered this movie goes over the full story and I only saw the first half of it with 2021 Dune. So I guess I'll put this video on hold for a few years while Part 2 gets made...

[@suitedpanda3108]

11:39 speaking of Christopher Walken. The SpICE must fLoW

[@callumjohnston858]

What I love is that you vcan see the elements Villeneuve kept, even the smaller touches; the Atreides' uniforms, the soundscape of The Voice, and there's something quietly Giger-y about Villeneuve's Navigator mothership. So...cigar shaped, yet so...cavernous.

[@christopherlowery3797]

I saw (and enjoyed, albeit while being massively confused) Dune 2021 last night & had a tough time hearing character/location names clearly (saw it in an overly loud IMAX theater) so this might help me iron out some of the details I was confused on.

[@zeroone8800]

Two words: Open Captions.

[@RXdash78]

I don't think that's a problem with your theatre. i had the same issue. And I had that same issue with Blade runner. I think it's more that villeneuve doens't care about sound mixing.

[@Real_MisterSir]

Not your theater, it's as if they're trying to make it an opera with the sound level. Also the music implementation is done in a way as if they're trying to make every single scene be epic or awe inspiring, which can be reeeeally tiring over time - and considering this is a 3 hour movie the sound level is hammered into your brain without any real pauses. Idk to me it felt like the screenwriters didn't know what to do with the source material, besides trying to make it grand at every opportunity they had. But essentially when everything is trying to outshine eachother, essentially nothing stands out and it just becomes loud (both audibly, and visually too). I found Dune 2021 an interesting experience, albeit not one I'm gonna be remembering in detail in the future. My image of it is more that it's a movie that tries to be more than it is. Trying to appear monumental, when in reality it's quite mundane and basic. Alas, I'm never one to complain about new big screen sci fi adventures.

[@dig8634]

It was extremely loud. I had no issue with the names however, since living in Norway, where English is very well understood, we still have captions in Norwegian for those that need it in the cinema. Not sure I'd have needed it tbh, I find it more annoying than helpful normally, but I like that they make it more accesable for others.

[@zeroone8800]

Obviously, you have never watched an Indian film in an American cinema. They have a much higher average volume. American films are designed with dynamic range.

[@davidanderson1639]

Fun Fact: Sian Phillips actually suggested the bald head look for the Bene Gesserit to David Lynch. Oh & those Sardaukar uniforms….they were made from actual bodybags!!!

[@ShardDeVir]

So the characters had no need to search for one after death.

[@sempervigilo7961]

Honestly, I still prefer this over the newest release. 2021's Dune had many good points, but I found it cold, sterile, and kind of washed out. There was very little passion in it, whereas Lynch's Dune was all about being over the top.

[@mr.2083]

@Maxim N He's not trying to be edgy, he's simply right. A lot of people felt the movie lacked soul and that most of the characters just felt like pieces of cardboard that lacked any depth or flesh.

[@althelas]

@Maxim N Visually Dune 2021 was stunning, but there was something off about it and Semper Vigilio was right, it missed a soul and was too sterile and don't get me started on Hans Zimmer's soundtrack which was just so dissapointing. It was too loud, to mish mash and in the end I still couldn't hear a single theme in it just a mass of loud sounds. I hope Dune 2 will be better.

[@ryanotte6737]

I love the 2021 Dune for its passion, authenticity, especially the relationship between the characters. For example, I thought the SyFy miniseries did a better job than the 1984 version to establish a mother (Jessica) who loves her son (Paul), and the 2021 movie does an even better job yet. I felt all the major relationships in 2021 were far less wooden, sterile, etc, than the 1984 version. That said, the 1984 Dune is freaking awesome as well for its over-the-top portrayals; I am especially a fan of the Harkonnens from 1984, even where they veer off from the books. Just an insane good time with those villains, among the more memorable in movie history. I don't know, this 2021 movie seems to be using the technology we have at the moment for the best artistic reasons, establishing epic world-building shots, invoking similar emotions as experienced from the source material books.

[@expertizer]

So true! Visually it was great - like a moving graphic novel, but the storytellimg and writing of Charakters were intellectually underwhelming

[@MikesTek]

the Spicediver edit is the best version by far. although I hate to admit it, but I still love the intro from the TV version with all the artwork explaining the backstory.

[@d.o.m.494]

Now I have seen ALL versions of Dune a combination of ALL of them would be the best!

[@trande6136]

Since you bring it up, and since it’s only 3 episodes, it would be interesting seeing you covering the Syfy series. Baron Harkonnen’s blatant 4th wall break immediately after surviving Leto’s suicide tooth is solidly in that “actor doesn’t even care“ category. That series does the camp like it’s going out of style.

[@bemasaberwyn55]

Mildly ironic that both Brad and P Stew would land in Starfleet within 15 years

[@jeremyabrahamson2872]

Mad Gordon Cole vibes on that cameo. I should add. It's heartwarming how much Lynch stuff made it into the new version. It's better in every way, but he still treated this one with love.

[@CalebLLShow]

Just saw the remake movie can’t wait for part 2

[@Diamonddogusa]

You forgot the 1 point for Jose Ferrer. Always a win.

[@JAMAICADOCK]

Like most 'flops' from great directors they go on to be highly influential. The campy haute fashionable costumes and set designs have become a sc fi standard, in fact Lynch's Dune seemed to have a huge impact on fashion designers such as Alexander McQueen, Which in turn fed back into the film world, from the Fifth Element to the Hunger Games. Also the post-modern splicing of the ancient with the modern, science and the mystical you see in most sci-fi these days. Plus just as in Dune, inter-planetary politics are taken more seriously now, no longer cheesy platitudes to fill in between special effects and set pieces. Dune was basically ahead of its time and might be still ahead of our times, that is in a kind of Shakespearean drama in space kinda way. But in the end, the dialogue couldn't sustain the screen-time it was given, Herbert maybe a great sci-fi writer, but he's no Shakespeare. That said when the more theatrical actors got hold of the lines, the dialogue could spring into life. Lynch should/ve recruited his former colleagues from the Elephant Man - Gielgud, Hopkins, and Hurt. Americans and Continentals doing Shakespeare in space falls a little flat. But Lynch should've gone full Shakespeare, and made something impenetrable to the common punter. After all, the far future, like the past- is going to be hard to follow. Perhaps needing several viewings to truly understand. You might even make the case for subtitles I think if he had full artistic freedom, he would've done. No point being half way impenetrable - you've gotta go the whole nine yards. As he now understands.

[@caronstout354]

Jodorosky's Dune, though unmade, still influenced sci-fi movies for years afterward..as did Lynch's Dune 1984.

[@kevincarroll3914]

Thank you so much for that The West Wing reference. Love Toby and that quote.

[@retroagent9766]

I’m praying that we get an “Everything Great about Halloween (1978)” on Halloween

[@danandtab7463]

love the random Christopher Walken dance, esp since I just learned that he's playing the Emperor in new Dune part 2.