Everything GREAT About Starship Troopers!

[@CinemaWins]

If you mention "Terran" in your comment, everyone here knows your opinion is invalid. This isn't a book. Just a heads up. Also, for everyone confused about fascism, listen to Umberto Eco: sites.evergreen.edu/politicalshakespeares/wp-content/uploads/sites/226/2015/12/Eco-urfascism.pdf

[@sambob8019]

Do you even know what fascism is how in the world could it be fascist you're allowed to have opinion so don't go with them and also I'm pretty sure you didn't read the book but one thing fascists would never be allowed to tear up their orders from the state the state is their God

[@mot2296]

CinemaWins. Everyone and their mother wants to be facism their brand of "But the other guys are bad cus facism" The academic discourse and the public one has long since derailed on the agreement and objective evaluation of what facism is. As a german. Starship Trooper isnt facistic. it is militaristic society who devotes Service to the Goverment over any "natural and liberal right" to take part in a goverment that you have not proven yourself to. It is locked in a war (for valid or unvalid reason) with a species that is likewise locked in the war with the humans War in enough of itself isnt facistic, neither is a country automaticly facistic if it does so I recommend you the "The Commenwealth Saga" from Peter F. Hamilton. Were the humans expand peacefully and mostly in accord with other species till they dont. Till an alien species, by no "facism" or malice of its own, collides with the human commenwealth and war is launched. Live is conflict and suffering. But that doesnt make it or people who engage in it, automaticly facistic

[@zerofox2030]

@@sambob8019A fascist government wouldn't have allowed the mormon extremists to just, do what they wanted either. Cinema wins just doesn't know wtf he's talking about here.

[@Skulduggery_TV]

Lad, you spent an entire video calling a fictional society that showed absolutely no signs of being fascist, a fascist society. Beyond aesthetic (clothes and such) there is nothing in the way this world works in the movie that fits fascism. People are allowed to choose whether or not to serve with absolutely no negative consequences should they choose not to. There is a democracy, people can vote, their entire society is not built around military though it is prominent. But yeah, clearly your word is gospel on the matter.

[@SpectralAtlas]

I had a nice time going through every point of “Ur-Fascism” to see how much lines up with how the Federation (in the film) is depicted: 1. The Federation is not traditionalist. It makes no appeals to religious truth, never idolizes the ancient world, and does not reject learning. 2. The Federation is not opposed to the Enlightenment, being classically liberal and constitutionalist. 3. Only the social sciences are denigrated, because in this universe they are perceived as nearly bringing about the end of civilization. 4. We see debates being broadcast, and Rico’s father opposes his enlistment without consequence. 5. We are shown no examples of racism. 6. We are shown no examples of classism. 7. There is no talk of plotting enemies either within or without the Federation. The bugs are very straightforward with their intention. 8. There are no appeals to envy in the form of foreign enemies having more power or prosperity than Citizens/Civilians. 9. Pacifists are allowed to exist in the Federation. “My mother told me violence never solves anything.” 10. Citizens are not all members of a single political party. We are not shown Citizens discriminating against Civilians. 11. No one is told that the Best Thing is to die for the Federation. 12. We are shown no examples of institutional male chauvinism. The rest of this point is Freudian and we can’t see inside the character’s heads. 13. The people of the Federation have individual rights. 14. No one uses Newspeak. None of it. If you believe that Umberto provides an accurate accounting of what fascism is, there is not a single feature found anywhere in the film. Thank you.

[@MajorHorton]

Best part of Helldivers 2 is that outside of Super Earth in the quadrant above Mars, there’s a planet called Klan Dahth II, which sounds an awful lot like ‘Klendathu’ 😎

[@T3hRogue]

There's also Zegema Paradise not far from it.

[@Rehd66]

Awesome. Did not know that

[@ScotchOffTheRocks]

@@T3hRogue literally was easter egg hunting through the map like an hour ago and found those, can't wait to have to defend super-earth one day

[@mrdrebin123]

We have to push back those fascist bugs! To insure the safety of super-democracy We must give those bugs a nice cup of liber-tea!

[@Dr._Mantis_Toboggan_Md.]

Pöpli supremacy.

[@quaidholland4776]

The fact that you didnt count "Its an ugly planet! A bug planet!" and "Its afraid" into the iconic lines counter is absolutely criminal

[@coobk]

and the thi king bugs are offensive line

[@Lazarultos]

I was surprised "Just trying to kill some bugs, sir" wasn't iconic either.

[@the.ansarya]

I have "Would you like to know more?" on a t-shirt.

[@aeonspast]

Or "It's simple numbers boys and girls. They have more."

[@Zalintis]

Came to the comment section to write this... thanks for doing the work for me!

[@dawsonnorton1574]

My bio teacher from Highschool was in this movie as an extra. He is one of the guys that gets absolutely launched in the air, told me they hooked him up to a slingshot harness and told him to go limp when they signaled him. The scream was all natural. After they did his scene he had a dislocated shoulder and nearly fractured his clavicle. Still says to this day that he was just happy to be there and enjoyed every minute of it.

[@warweasel2832]

What a incredibly in-character mobile infantry attitude to have towards a dislocated shoulder lmao.

[@re11ik96]

He was doing his part

[@johnathanmonsen6567]

@@warweasel2832 TBF, there are much more severe injuries to get. Not that you want to get ANY injury from a film shoot, but, you know.

[@tio_john]

He did his part brilliantly

[@felinusfeline5559]

Hell yeah, anyone would be happy to have done that...plus now he can watch it with people and when it gets to that he can point and say "that's me!"

[@Arison7386]

It's crazy helldivers did so well they already made a movie about it.

[@AlphaGamer1981]

27 years ago. Fuck I'm old

[@LutherLee]

Other games: Still waiting for the movie after 10 years Helldivers 2: lol and behold

[@theblackout6661]

But they made a starship troopers game last year. To bad it didn't stick like helldivers did

[@Googers503]

@@AlphaGamer1981stop. Don’t remind me. I’m Starting to grunt as I get up from the couch.

[@Lies-are-Life]

​@@theblackout6661yeah. Its a shame. Its is a fun game tho

[@nekromi97]

I love how Helldivers 2 has revitalized this franchise for all the good reasons

[@Blodhelm]

For Democracy!

[@123SuperBeast]

I had to scroll a little too far to find this comment tbh. Expected every other post to be about hd2

[@Bugretti]

The masculine urge to die on an alien planet, fighting to the last man.

[@BadgerMonkey]

If only there were a Starship Troopers game...

[@phillipcox6804]

@@BadgerMonkeyhaha, they really missed the mark making it only first person.

[@weldonwin]

During the Klendathu Drop scene, one of Rico's squad-mates has this moment, where he opens his mouth wide, almost like he's biting and then slaps his helmet. It took me years to figure out what he was doing, then realized, he's making sure his helmet and chinstrap fit properly, because he remembers the accident in training when the Farm-Boy got his head blown off

[@father_opan4358]

great little detail

[@Rosskles]

Woh...

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

Shujumi was also on stims lol

[@daveothompson4466]

Today I realised. . . .

[@sporksable]

Watch carefully and you see helmets slipping and soldiers constantly having to readjust them to be able to see straight. The helmet was defective from the beginning. The military just didn't want to spend the money to fix it. Just like not spending money on bigger guns and dropping a bunch of dudes armed with intermediate cartridge chambered assault rifles on a planet teeming with heavily armored aliens with sharp points.

[@dp5623]

The timing on this and the popularity of Helldivers 2 is insane.

[@cristianbernal8009]

Description calls HD2 as a reason he did it.

[@DARKcoloredCHAP]

sweet they made a movie about helldivers 2

[@thelordconstantine1464]

@@cristianbernal8009I was gonna say, it's likely due to the topic they both cover

[@SuperRONDALE]

I was JUST about to say the same thing. Ngl, the memes got to me, I didn’t believe the hype. Then I got it, first thing I did in the beginning missions was turn the setting for the game music completely off, and turned on a Vietnam playlist instead. Shit was hilarious and fun and low key cinematic sometimes. Got even better when my first teammate with a mic

[@commaJim]

Literally in the description lol.

[@JimHoxworth-s5s]

“Dude is 90% of the way to an automaton.” *Malevelon Creek flashbacks*

[@scribejay]

Post traumatic sounds of metal clashing on metal and Fortunate Son intensify.

[@DrDeathReign]

The Automatons are NOT the Cyborgs. They are separate and unique enemies, which is I guess not a good sign...

[@martface]

We can get her back boys, don’t give up.

[@greap2294]

ITS EVERYWHERE. Helldivers 2 is EVERYWHERE. (No I haven't played the game cuz not on xbox)

[@CAP198462]

Examine the Kelvin Sector, there’s a planet called Zegema Paradise. I bet they’ve got nice beaches there.

[@Chwarzerd]

“I’m doing my part.” “I’m doing my part.” “I’m doing my part!” “I DIDN’T DO FUCKIN SHIT”

[@Herobrine-vh8lv]

The most iconic helldiver meme

[@robertspence831]

My bone spurs are killing me.

[@joebno3]

HOW DO YOU NOT ADD THE "Do you want to know more?'" LINE TO THE ICONIC COUNT?!

[@soulofastro]

I know right!?

[@DootSlayer-vp4os]

That’s a reference to a marine in the us army during ww1 but I forgot his name

[@LilyGrace95]

My family and I quote that *all the time.*

[@Crazael]

@@DootSlayer-vp4os I'm pretty sure you mean the "Come on, you apes! Do you want to live forever?" line. Which was a reference to "Come on, you sons of bitches, do you wanna live forever?" that was reportedly said by Sergeant Daniel Daly, a Marine during WWI. Though accounts on what he actually said vary.

[@zhorenlogg]

That's literally what we want about this universe, to know more

[@ChronoNeko]

I like the theory that Carl isn't actually testing Rico on if he's psychic but rather trying to expand his own abilities by mentally telling Rico the card he's looking at

[@KaptifLaDistillerie]

And a great depiction of what Suggestion is in Psychology : the process of sending out stimuli, consciously or unconsciously, planned or not. Imitation is the resultant phase of the same social process, and refers to reacting favorably or unfavorably, consciously or unconsciously, to the given stimulus

[@treborkroy5280]

That's absolutely what the scene was implying. He even ask at the end of the scene, "You've never done that with me RIGHT?!' Then he coyly says "no he can't do humans, YET." Then by the end of the film he telepathicly nudges Rico to choose a specific tunnel distracting the bugs away from a team about to successfully capture a brain bug. Setup with the card scene, payoff at brain big one.

[@matteoziegler7632]

I never got the last part of Carl sending him the location telepathic I just thought he gave him the coordinates via com or something. What an eerie detail@@treborkroy5280

[@Bazookatone1]

Mildly fun fact, the actor who pays Breckinridge (the tropper who gets his head blown off in the live fir exercise) and the actress who plays the African American recruit who accidnetally shoots hom have been married for about 20 years after meeting on this film.

[@luckypunfire6263]

She must have really blown his mind.

[@GD1082]

They must have liked what each other saw in the shower scene. I mean, that had to reduce tension on the first date, you already saw each other with no clothes on.

[@Blodia1990]

😂😂 Talk about ironic that's awesome

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

@@GD1082 I mean I feel like most functioning adults aren't tense on the first date just thinking about sleeping with the other one. Like, I'm a woman, maybe it's different for men, but like I'm not gonna stress about not having seen someone naked while going out with them

[@deadeyecpt.7765]

"Dad, how did you meet mom?" "She shot me in the face during a live fire exercise" "Oh"

[@Urboyyycarlos]

Pretty sure the line of "The only good bug is a dead bug" is in the actual HellDive Intel Feed. As you're diving in,you'll see some tips,like "Friendly fire isn't"

[@raiyano7436]

"If at first you don't succeed, try again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again"

[@joelebrown4355]

@@raiyano7436Don't panic.

[@rab_22..w]

“Don’t drink and drive”

[@wildwyatxbox]

@@rab_22..w But do drink and dive!

[@russia4biden221]

Wow so HD2 is unoriginal trash not just unplayable trash

[@DrcoolWA]

That quote of “come you apes you wanna live forever?” Is actually almost a 1:1 quote by US marine Daniel Daly during World War 1 during the battle of Belleau Wood where he actually yells out “come on you sons of bitches do you wanna live forever”

[@malcontent79]

Came here to say that, glad you were already on it

[@castillogrande8926]

Virgin Daniel Daly vs. Chad Smedley D. Butler

[@aaroncook2052]

​@@castillogrande8926 Actually Butler held Daly in very high esteem and considered serving with him to have been a privilege.

[@NukeMarine]

@@castillogrande8926Both were chads.

[@Tyler-nh6oy]

SGT Johnson also says this in Halo:CE if i recall correctly, pretty nuts how real quotes from real marines makes it into pop culture.

[@Creym464]

"i am doing my part" -me as a helldivers in lvl11 robotnam Lemme ask 500 kg of democracy orhammer of dawn

[@MetalGamer666]

HD2 is so good!

[@tp-pf8zo]

For 'managed' DEMOCRACY!!!

[@DavidAntonio-uw1co]

It's so funny that hd2 is the modern day version of this movie and it's still going over people's heads

[@brandonevans3267]

It’s time to serve some liber tea!

[@masterbaiter274]

I'm doing MY PART

[@ahuman3601]

Love that each time he mentions how old he was when he first saw it his age goes down, starting with 15 all the way to 9.

[@nifflergaming8922]

Thanks, i thought i was the only one who noticed

[@Daniel4119]

Lol just in case his mom was listening

[@SLDFSpectreSix]

I've been saying it for almost 20 years now. If they left the bug limbs in Dizzy and got her back to the ship, she might not have bled out. If you have been impaled by something, the paramedics will tell you to leave it in or they'll leave it in all the way to the hospital so you don't bleed out as fast as you would if you pulled the object out.

[@LuxBellator92]

Yep. This is sadly what also killed Steve Irwin, when he tore out the stingray barb. Had he left it in, his likelihood of living through that event would have been a lot higher.

[@Dalpima]

Even at age 14 I knew this logic and to this very day I cringe so hard when they pull it out of her. But that just makes the movie even better....she could have survived, but in death she would lead more soldiers to the war than if she had survived. Fascism!

[@hedganian]

Basic first aid for any penetrating wound with a foreign object embedded in it - leave it in there!

[@114Riggs]

you are right, but this thing got like 90 percent of her organs.

[@tess9063]

@@114Riggs With the sort of tech they have, i wouldnt be suprised if anything less than death before the medics can get to you is survivable

[@wheezybeef22]

You missed one of the most intense scenes, as their extracting from the brain bug and Watkins is mortally wounded, Rico goes to lift him up and he screams, "NO!, NO!...GIVE ME THE NUKE" man takes a live nuke from his squad, tells them to get out of there, and from a prone position starts laying them out asking 'YOU LIKE THAT? YOU LIKE THAT? YOU WANT SOME MORE?" before the nuke detonates.....so his team could escape, man embodies the Helldivers

[@vincentvargo7850]

Didn't have "YOU TRYING TO BE A HERO WATKINS!??" Or the response "JUST TRYING TO KILL SOME BUGS SIR" as iconic lines. Bitching about muh fashhism 0/10

[@TyronGoodnight-qz9ld]

Helldivers embodies this movie. Not the other way around.

[@DragonuFear]

That was covered briefly as a self sacrifice win, it just wasn't in detail

[@TheMOMO11496]

I love that scene

[@wellhellothere8993]

Death by own Nuke is a badass death and physically the best given you disintegrate at the speed of light before you can even realize anything at all

[@Mrgoodtimes87]

You missed one thing. The scene where you see all of the soldiers running toward their ships. One soldier actually trips as he's trying to get on the loading ramp and trips three or four other people who are running. The scene was so expensive that they couldn't cut and redo it.

[@Astra7525]

haha... what?

[@JohnDoe-wt9ek]

Is it during the load up to invade Klendathu?

[@KoscheiMorevna]

11:38 for anyone curious. Also, i'd argue that it just adds to the chaos.

[@JoshSweetvale]

It's _perfect._

[@AC-iz7eh]

What, I don't see anyone tripping

[@blankistblankophobe9078]

"Are you trying to be a hero, Watkins?" "No, sir! I'm trying to kill some Bugs, sir!"

[@Klendathu_Hotdrop]

Roger Young

[@baqcasanke]

So mad they didnt include that in the iconic line counter

[@JackRabs]

Best part of the movie.

[@matthiasoc7141]

Whoever did the lighting and set design really knocked it out of the park, because whenever the scene is outside the Military, it looks like a 90s soap opera.

[@RandomSime]

It was marketed as "90210 meets Aliens" on release.

[@pompe221]

What I like is even the night scenes, you can actually SEE what is going on. Not as well as you would in the daylight of course but it's not like today where the screen is like 85% pure darkness and you can't tell what's happening.

[@Strigon01]

"It's an ugly planet. A bug planet." I say this line every time I land on a bug planet in Helldivers 2. lol

[@Ceejaydee1978]

I also quote "Situation is... Situation is extremely hostile!" when we hot-drop and get surrounded.

[@Strigon01]

@@Ceejaydee1978 I hate it when the random person I team up with hot drops on a red zone and we all die in a few seconds.

[@Ceejaydee1978]

On one hand it's extremely annoying but on the other hand there's something enjoyable about the first five minutes of the mission just being a desperate firefight on unfamiliar terrain. The game is so cinematic, it leads to so many "You tryin to be a hero Watkins?"/ "Just tryna kill some bugs sir!" moments.

[@DigiThorn]

Because it’s *true!*

[@burnbobquist8999]

Why that did not land in the iconic counter, i don't know. xD

[@mkczygd3356]

"Mobile infantry made me the man I am today" is a quote that's stuck with me since I watched this movie, I don't know why.

[@edog101]

Because it's great writing.

[@GhostEye31]

​@edog101 Which is hilarious considering it's the opposite of the message from the same quote in the book.

[@xerxeskingofking]

@@GhostEye31 is it? the whole point of the triple amputee on the desk, even in the book, was to make prospective recruits see, very clearly, the possible cost they were signing up for, and question if it was a worth it. He still serves the same purpose here, just for us the viewers.

[@rickyrobby8133]

When I rewatched it when I was in college that scene is really got me to realize they were making a bigger point than “alien bugs vs humans.”

[@cheynewillingham2107]

@@xerxeskingofking All of that is true. The difference is that Verhoeven trying to make you think the man is an imbecile or brainwashed for not knowing he is in ruins. In the book, it was an intelligent, sober man who is doing it on purpose. Verhoeven's lack of empathy for veterans is why it is arguably opposite.

[@kylelantan9220]

Someone actually pointed out that the "It's afraid!" line and it's seeming importance in the cast, actually is set up in the classroom dissection scene. The teacher says the bugs have no fear, so them hearing that is meant to be a big win. I had never caught that.

[@theraptorcommissar1015]

Fans of Democracy and Liber-Tea have waited long for this!

[@butterballmach2]

FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@High-LordHarza]

MY LEG!

[@danielbob5191]

*Managed Democracy

[@theraptorcommissar1015]

@@danielbob5191 DEMOCRACY IS DEMOCRACY!

[@scottdevnull5778]

remember finish your defense assignments , we can push those bots back

[@cjkalandek996]

Fun fact. The design for the main Bugs was actually one of the 2 designs for the Shriekers in _Tremors 2: Aftershocks,_ but they didn't use it due to the low budget of $4 million. But because Tippet Studio worked on the VFX for both that and this, they decided to use it for this.

[@johnsmead5096]

oh, 90's hollywood. you go gurl

[@gophermanX]

So that goop might very well have BEEN leftover graboid blood!

[@KaptifLaDistillerie]

@@johnsmead5096 the creativity in the 90's was at its peak for real

[@carlosfer2201]

Tremors 2 is not a bad movie at all! It's sad how the series took a nosedive after that. They even resorte to hiring Jamie Kennedy...yuck

[@DarthBiomech]

...Aaaand "graboids are from Klendatu" goes from a funny line straight to a headcanon.

[@jolan_tru]

20:18 I love that when the evacuation shuttle landed, Zander jumped out, gun in hand, to help fend off the horde to get the MI inside safely. Just because he spent his career without his "boots on the ground" doesn't mean he's any less courageous (or filled with arrogant bravado) than everyone else.

[@NekoHibaCosplay]

I liked this detail, the fact that the pilot who was challenged by Rico ended up behaving exactly like a mobile infantry soldier, rifle in hand doing his part on the front line. Among other things, the fact that pilots are also trained to be shooters with assault rifles, identical to those of the infantry, is not something that should be taken for granted and shows how in fact Mobile Infantry and Fleet DOES mix

[@takirosh]

The rifles the pilots use are carbine versions of the Morita Assault Rifles used by the Mobile Infantry. Mostly used by MI unit commanders, Security Forces and in Fleet escape pods. Mostly because they are more compact.

[@mycroft16]

It comes down to no one picks on my brother but me. In the heat of a battle, the petty things go away. Amd then he even tells Carmen he's back there. He k ows there is history and if not love at least a friendship that existed for years. Honestly, I think Zander came to respect Rico. He never backed down from a fight. Is clearly skilled and talented. Has survived on the very front lines through massacres. Risen through the ranks to leadership. They may never be friends but there is a respect there.

[@NFSINSANE]

I hate Zanders character 😂😂😂 I was glad when he died

[@tytoalbasoren9457]

7:35 I' like to believe those dents and holes on the wall are from Zim knifing the past recruits.

[@dylanmoore6747]

The subtle joke that the age CinemaWins saw the movie first getting younger and younger is so good

[@Szokynyovics]

Yeah XD

[@nerdgasam6838]

I enjoyed that very much!

[@bmsquared]

I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out. Brilliant

[@the.ansarya]

I was wondering why the age kept getting lower. Forgot about the CW video joke.

[@josho7138]

😆😆😆🐲

[@stevengarcia5210]

30:55 - honestly that part there just reminds me of the futurama meme: "We know nothing about their language, their history, or what they look like. But we can assume this, they stand for everything we don't stand for,"

[@maxpower3990]

Said by the greatest military leader and hero in DOOP history, the man with no name.

[@melciah1234]

The bugs are meant to represent perfect communists. They don't even think individually, they are drones all controlled by the collective, or in this case the brain bug. Each bug is identical because communism would strip away all forms of individuality. Its something that Heinlein was specifically trying to point out when writing the book.

[@IoFoxdale]

@@melciah1234yeah but in the film the context is far more on the bugs as a mirror to the MI. From the science teacher calling the bugs perfect organisms due to their lack of will and service to the state to their willingness to be thrown into gunfire for the war mirroring the roughnecks consenting to be bait for the officer corps.

[@krank23]

@@melciah1234 I can absolutely believe that's what Heinlein believed about communism/socialism. Not really true, of course, but I believe he believed it.

[@donovandelozier7156]

​@@krank23 it literally is though.

[@Midnight-Starfish]

Something interesting about the infamous shower scene is that the cast only agreed to do it if the director, Paul Verhoeven, directed it in his birthday suit with them.

[@JaccoSW]

Which is a bet they were always going to lose, seeing how much "functional" nudity Dutch movies had in the decades before. Like nowadays you would think they got all of their actors from a nudist beach.

[@alreadyblack3341]

Not only that, the film crew too. Fucking lol

[@spenceranderson1012]

There’s no shame in being naked when everyone is

[@wadeklein8962]

That’s actually pretty funny and a super weird but interesting little detail you knew about this film, I loved this film as a kid, I’m only 22 now but I remember watching this movie and loving every second of it, I think there’s more than 1 now but the first one is easily my favorite

[@Midnight-Starfish]

@@wadeklein8962 I'm not doing the whole thing justice, but I recommend a video by a channel called Fact Fiend that goes a bit more in depth with the story.

[@mrgreatbigmoose]

My favorite was "to ensure the safety of our solar system, Klendathu must be eliminated". Then you see this is a map of the galaxy, with us at one end and them at the other. Tiny pinpricks of light and there's not enough room for the both of us!

[@Sujad]

Well yes, the bugs decided to fling asteroids at Earth after some mormons tried colonising a planet the federation quarantined. The bugs were expanding to whatever planets they could find and would kill every man, woman and child without a second thought. You can't negotiate with something that sees you as food at best or a competitor in need of killing at worst.

[@vadandrumist1670]

It's almost like the bugs are incredibly dangerous. My favorite line was "We're in it for the species. It's a numbers game and they have more."

[@CreamCakes420]

@@Sujadyes these bugs performed a maneuver that used a targeted asteroid and were on the other side of the galaxy, I think they were just straight up lying and used the bugs and are using the bugs as a scapegoat

[@Sujad]

@@CreamCakes420 There's no reason for them to lie though. Throughout the movie the Federation is perfectly fine with being entirely honest with it's civilian populace to show what's going on from the news crew on Klendathu. None of the broadcasts shy away from the reality of the situation.

[@Maladjester]

One of my favorite lines in the _Spiral War_ series is, "Given the density of intelligent life in the galaxy, there are over a million stars for each sentient species. More territory than we can ever really claim. Unlimited resources. And yet, we still find ways to go to war."

[@bagelbite99]

Love how he went from first watching it at 14 then 13 then 12 then 11 then 10 then 9

[@FutureDeep]

It's a countdown... He's gonna blow!!!

[@RustBot42]

I appreciate this kind of unassuming humour.

[@SarajevoKyoto]

Holy cow I just noticed that, did he just Orwell his own video?

[@bagelbite99]

@@SarajevoKyoto14? what do you mean 14? I never said 14. I was 13 when I watched it. 13? What do you mean 13? I never said 13. I was 12 when I watched it. What do you mean 12?

[@JustapErson]

@@bagelbite99 14? I was 14 once.

[@justinkamperveen3860]

You missed 2 iconic lines: - "Would you like to know more?" - "Service guarantees citizenship."

[@oscarobrien5304]

More than 2 “JUST TRYING TO KILL SOME BUGS SIR”

[@oscarobrien5304]

“Its an ugly planet a bug planet!”

[@oscarobrien5304]

Almost every line is iconic

[@mannofdober873]

What about: "AAAAAAAGH! AAAAAAAAAAGH! HELP ME! HELP ME! AAAAAAAAAAAAGH!"

[@stickiedmin6508]

​@@mannofdober873 Truly iconic.

[@hansvonmannschaft9062]

The fact that humans got rifles but constantly try to get closer to the melee-only bugs should be considered iconic, too.

[@AllanTidgwell]

They don't try to get close. The bugs are just such a fast swam and so difficult to immobilize they span the distance and enter melee range

[@hansvonmannschaft9062]

@@AllanTidgwell I don't disagree in a word of what you're saying regarding how fast the bugs are. But if you take a look, the soldiers do walk forward, every time, instead of adopting tactics where they use ranged weapons as an advantage. They pretty much walk shoulder to shoulder as if it was a Napoleonic battle 🙂 Have a good one!

[@AlphaGamer1981]

Those guns seemed to have unlimited ammo

[@imanrobota4849]

It's a campy movie. Don't think too hard about it. In the novel they have power armor and basically rocket pack around the battlefield blowing everything up with mini-nuclear bombs.

[@BoTheJo]

I think the training they use is meant to thin out the population!

[@georgeealien]

What I really liked is how Rico loses Dizzy, but he doesn't immediately jump into a relationship with Carmen. It's not even implied they'll get back together. I think it's great that a 90s action flick didn't fall into a typical cliché in that regard.

[@gagecameron5672]

I heard that apparently the crew only agreed to do the shower scene if the director was also naked during the filming of it.

[@GuineaPigEveryday]

I think in that story Paul Verhoeven also did it lol, he was absolutely crazy/wacky so it doesn’t surprise

[@blankspace444]

@@GuineaPigEverydayYeah, those Dutch guys are some crazy folk but I suppose if you grow up under Nazi Occupation it’s bound to mess you up a bit

[@Mabooltube]

That seems plausible, because it is said that a similar thing happened on the set of Black Book: There is a scene where a bucket of feces is dumped on the main actress, and she was allowed to throw some of it at the director after filming it, as it was a gruelling scene to shoot.

[@gagecameron5672]

@@GuineaPigEveryday probably, considering the Director and Paul Verhoeven are the same guy

[@raeje]

Kind of - at least from the imdb trivia section, they weren't acting natural so Dina Meyer/Dizzy called him out and was like If it's so easy, lets see you do it, Paul! So he did, they all laughed and did the scene.

[@darryljack6612]

I'm doing my part and spreading democracy.

[@CthomasMega]

"I'm doing my part too!😊"

[@NotoriousTim]

"This year we explored the failure of democracy..."

[@samzilla567]

We need more men on Malevelon Creek now!

[@Hakar17]

​@@NotoriousTimLmao you take the movie way to seriously VerHooven is a lame

[@samdurfee6093]

@@NotoriousTimthe Failure of Unmanaged Democracy. Managed Democracy Forever!

[@chanelhenderson8460]

Noooo you gotta add a win for Dizzys line as she dies in Ricos arms!!! "Its okay because I got to have you" gets me everytime

[@father_opan4358]

Tell me about it, I was getting choked up and teary eyed on a recent rewatch.

[@DixonsCider]

Dizzy flores is a dude who dies on the retrieval boat after rico and others fallout to make pickup. He died in his armour because they couldnt get him out of it.

[@conansredbowtie]

I'm also here because of Helldivers 2. That game is unapologetically Starship Troopers + Terminator and I love it.

[@imanrobota4849]

With undertones of post 9-11 America. "They want to destroy our way of life." and "Defending freedom and democracy". It's almost like that was when everything went completely off the rails and everything just gets crazier and crazier as time goes on.

[@bobbabouy8537]

I never noticed Zym standing behind Rico and the rest of them in the lunch line watching the interaction, that is such a good detail.

[@Mariopwnzu]

Right, I've watched this movie countless time since I was a kid and never once noticed that

[@Vailsiren]

@14:30 just to be clear "Casualties" does not mean deaths exclusively you can even see in the list next to the names their status: "KIA" Killed In Action, and "WIA" Wounded In Action and "MIA" Missing In Action (can't be found/not accounted for)

[@rhysofsneezingdragon1758]

I imagine half of them are just MIA, given how much of a clusterfuck the retreat was

[@Vailsiren]

@@rhysofsneezingdragon1758 yeah they had Rico as "KIA" but he was in a medical pod as that scene happened, so there was probably a lot of inaccuracies. clusterfuck is the right word

[@Hellsong89]

@@Vailsiren You are missing in action, until someone does their job and report your existence what ever it is in body bag, in a infirmary or you have been found to who ever is responsible for that. Given the numbers and not having ability to go into planet to search for dog tags in pile of corpses to make sure that is your corpse, its reasonable his in slot of MIA before info gets right places and is processed, witch wont be fast since number of cases and limited resources given to that office. Patching the guy up is bit more important than go to report statistics to that office after all.

[@mikeljackson9192]

Just to be clear All of that sounds no bueno

[@Independent118]

we just gonna ignore the 300,000+ KIA?

[@notlogical4016]

the line"come on you apes, do you wanna live forever?" is a reworded version of a quote from daniel daly in the USMC who said to his soldiers, "Come on you sons o bitches, do you wanna live forever?" in ww1, he wouldve been the first man to recieve three medals of honor but congress passed a law saying that no man can obtain more than three.

[@justinjustice4253]

there's no law that says that.

[@AlexanderSwan-f2d]

It’s a quote from Frederick the great

[@Galeanthropist]

The 'apes' part is from the book, because of how the armour makes them look like gorillas.

[@josh678595]

@@justinjustice4253 US code Title 10, Subtitle B, Part 2, Chapter 737, 7274

[@jamesmarciel5237]

@@josh678595those 2 laws don’t say a person cannot win/be awarded more than three. It says that no one will receive the actual medal/service cross more than once. Just like other awards/medals, they use a device to notate multiple awardings of the medal. That is what a star on a ribbon bar or the medal ribbon indicates. No law states a limitation on how many times a person can “win” the Medal of Honor, only how many times the physical award device, I.e. the actual medal, can be awarded. Service crosses and below can be won multiple times. The additional awardings are noted by the device added to the original medal. The Medal of Honor is the only one where additional awardings are still noted by the original medal without use of an additional device. Dan Daly was cheated out of a third Medal of Honor by politics.

[@MrDrdeath54]

So the bug planet scenes were filmed at Hell’s Half Acre in wyoming, and they used an army reserve unit from Casper, Wyoming as extras at the very end. And my dad was one of those!

[@coreyhelms3019]

The original Novel had an extended scene of the recruitment officer who was missing limbs. Rico sees him sometimes later and he has complete prosthetics. Says he takes them off for the recruitment...

[@ahha623]

I believe that's to scare them, letting them know "hey this can happen to you, are you sure you want to join it's dangerous"

[@dercooney]

@@ahha623 it's amazing that people think it's a militaristic society when the recruiters are there trying to drive the risks home

[@diomedes7971]

@@dercooney Service doesn't even mean military furthermore. The book iterates, multiple times, that the majority of Federation positions are non military. Its just with Rico's testing, he got chosen for infantry unit or Neodog unit as his options.. As shown with the movie's creator and many of the posters here, none of them ever bothered to read the book.

[@dercooney]

@@diomedes7971 yup. military is hazardous, and they underscore that

[@ahha623]

@@dercooney how do they underscore it. They show a vet with missing limbs and brutal main them during training?

[@dariuskahmenleodros3646]

Carl is a psychic. He approached her in ball bc he knew she was sad and he was the one arranged Dizzy to move with Rico. Carl is a better wingman than Barney.

[@LilyGrace95]

He wasn't a strong enough telepath to "do humans" at that point. He literally says that in the film.

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

@@LilyGrace95 we all have are secret's

[@LilyGrace95]

@@creatorsfreedom6734 ....so you're ignoring his character arc of having increasing literal and figurative power because you prefer your own narrative? 🙄

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

@@LilyGrace95 a character said something an thus it is and was the hole truth an nothing else for he can tell no lie

[@LilyGrace95]

@@creatorsfreedom6734 You don't really understand how a narrative works, do you? 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@MrGriningreaper]

The fact the guy that made the movie admitted to only reading two chapters of the book before giving up, should be reason enough to devorce the movie from the book. I treat the movie as a stand alone, inspired by, type of movie. Inspired by two chapters of the book, and a campy, fun movie.

[@Disatiere]

Well yeah, the movie is great political satire, one of the best most well executed ones of its time. Whle the book is just unironic fascist wanking material

[@helwrecht1637]

@@Disatiereno it isn’t. It’s NOT FASCISM stop making that word lack meaning. Authoritarian and militaristic do not automatically equal fascism. If it did the Soviets, the French Revolution, modern China and Russia, Ukraine, Iran, would be fascist they were not. Fascism requires that everything from person to machine to a dog be dedicated to the state. Everything in starship troopers is not this, there is an entire class of people who choose to have nothing to do with the state. Fascism can never be a democracy, starship troopers is a democracy, in a similar way to ancient Rome and Greece but with more voters. Fascism would never admit mistakes, fascism would never allow free religion. The starship troopers government does both

[@edrichlouw1790]

@@helwrecht1637now that just sounds like socialism to me.

[@SpringHeeLJaK89]

​@@helwrecht1637 I think the largest difference is fascism has a main leader who is one in the same with the state. They dont ever cover that in the movie.

[@hurricaneofpuns3722]

given that Paul Verhoeven lived under the kind of government the book insists is the only viable government system, I think it's safe to say the film blatantly points out how absolutely pants on head stupid the entire concept of the book is

[@Yhelta]

I never realized that those were M14s that they were shooting until that closeup but as someone who used to manufacture that receiver, I'd recognize it anywhere.

[@nachoaveragebear6979]

It's actually a Mini 14.. chambered in 5.56. I doubt they had the budget for that many 308 blanks.

[@Yora21]

WHAT?! "I find the idea of a bug that thinks offensive!" did not get an iconic count?

[@SnoozeNLooze]

^

[@spinosaurusstriker]

Because cinema wins is just an opposite cinema sisns but a little lazier.

[@dkosmari]

Because it hit too close to home.

[@Foehammer157]

@@spinosaurusstrikerHow is Cinema wins lazier? All Cinema Sins does is repeats the same jokes and nitpicks things.

[@DM_Hazen]

Bruh, read this right when the video did. Nice.

[@impulse0341]

The "do you want to live forever" is a quote Dan Daly said in WWI.... The book is very different character wise.

[@milobem4458]

and Frederick of Prussia two centuries before that.

[@reenactingnerd4274]

@@milobem4458 Yeah, but its almost certainly taken from Daly's quote, as the author of Starship Troopers was American. also Daly said the famous quote as "Come on you sons of bitches, do you want to live forever?" and then led a charge across a wheat field into the german lines at the Battle of Bellau Wood in the June of 1918

[@joeroscoe10117]

​@@reenactingnerd4274oohrah!

[@thecoolroom]

This review was funny and great! My name is Teo and I played Corporal Bronski (the soldier with the whip!) and as 'Total Win #34 (thank you!) I want to take this moment to say a big THANK YOU on behalf of the entire cast & crew of Starship Troopers to our MANY dedicated fans across the globe. We love you all for keeping this movie alive and relevant for so many years! Your knowledge and actor research was impressive and amazing and one of the things that made this so entertaining for me. So let me share a not known BTS moment with you based on your "love" for Carmen... In an earlier cut of the film that I saw... My character comes in the room and gives Rico the "Dear John" letter/video disk. He pops it in and turns to respond to Ace... Simultaneously, On the monitor screen WE see Zander puting his clothes on and trying to scramble out of the camera view! He managed to clear the room as Rico refocuses on the monitor. She was already flippin. Zander's six three BEFORE she broke up with Johnny! So when is THAT what she wanted to "go career" on?... IJS 😅 But I digress.... excellent video on an excellent classic (and, Yes, I acknowledge my bias...) and to you I say... "Zeguma Beach"! Teo

[@toxicatedWaste]

thats a crazy fact, thanks for being such an inspiration!

[@Mr_Soleo]

I always felt like that was how the movie tried to play their relationship after the fact, but from what we were shown we didn't really have the evidence to say she was truly in it for anything but to go career. Thank you for the BTS secrets, and great job on the movie!

[@Adam-h9s8j]

Bro I love your quick reaction to "keep pace". Like you'd done it 100 times, each more eagerly than the last.

[@loc27gth44]

Starshiproopers my favorite movie of all time ! thanks to peoples like you You have given a great gift to the world Thank again from France

[@Sabactus]

@19:50 I love the 4th wall break when the Tanker swallows the grenade and looks right at the 'camera', you can almost hear, "It was at that moment he knew, he fucked up", then its head explodes.

[@Tax_2000]

This movie holds a special place for me because My uncle was an extra in it.

[@Aaron067]

That's so cool!

[@thecursed01]

was he the brain bug?

[@pumpkinman9341]

Hell ya man

[@Tax_2000]

@@thecursed01 no. He was one of the many dudes in the opening scene running away from the bugs.

[@UberGhoul]

@@Tax_2000Oh god, is he ok?

[@GhostRanchStudios]

I was an extra in this when they filmed here in Wyoming. My girlfriend and I get a kick out of it whenever the younger version of me appears on screen towards the end. Thanks for sharing and thanks for using the clip I'm in. 😊 (I appear at 22:12 in the video.)

[@spitandfire]

Thank you for doing your part! o7

[@TotalyNotSatan]

Which one ?

[@xxxaragon]

That's honestly so cool.

[@onatgz]

so cool!

[@RabidWildCreature]

i love how he progressively gets younger each times he says something about the first time he watched it

[@JohnNeville617]

Many of the times were with progressively more nudity, intimacy, and adult themes as well.

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

It must be the generation. I watched Starship Troopers at 5. I used to know which scenes to skip (cause I wasnt allowed to see boobs, violence was ok tho) It was funny I watched that DVD so many times I always just skipped. I finally realized at like....19 that I could watch the scenes. It was just habitual to skip them lol

[@RabidWildCreature]

@@JarthenGreenmeadow keep it pure

[@Crowald]

@@JarthenGreenmeadow "cause I wasn't allowed to see boobs, violence was ok tho" That is... just hilarious irony for so many reasons. I don't know if you're American, but that idea applies to Americans, and definitely to me too. Violence is fine, but NUDITY?! ABSOLUTELY NOT The U.S. was started by a bunch of goddamn prudes who thought the only person who should see them naked was God.

[@steelhelix]

One thing that I noticed you didn't mention is that the reason Rasczak isn't a school teacher anymore is because his wife and daughter were killed in the meteor strike. That's why he's so ruthless and willing to sacrifice anyone, also why he welcomes death in the end. He isn't fighting for any idealistic/fascist hope, he's doing it for revenge and it shows in everything he does.

[@Sujad]

Thank you for showing your literary ignorance.

[@modernmajorgeneral4669]

I mean, his take is pretty valid and logical. I will add that, even if he isn’t fighting intentionally for fascism, he is believing in the system, and him fighting in the army is benefitting the fascists.

[@helwrecht1637]

@@modernmajorgeneral4669it’s not fascism. It’s authoritarian, limited democracy. There are entire sections of the nation disconnected from the state, with no intention from the state to control or absorb them. This fact alone means it’s not fascism. Fascism requires that every aspect of society exist in its utility to the state.

[@vesrchrieben7427]

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[@NovaKorpov]

One of the big thing about Carl that I don't hear people talk about is how his job drained him of humanity. He's a psychic. They specifically had him connect with bugs so he could feel where the most painful places to shoot them at were. They pretty much made him experience death from the perspective of the bugs ad nauseum .They wanted to know what scared the bugs. That's why his scene with the brain bug is so unnerving. The only smile we see him with after joining is when he realizes the brain bug is scared

[@noobandfriends2420]

This is something a communist would come up with who relates to bugs more than mankind.

[@Butterwinkle]

The fuck are you on about? The film explicitly has him showing how to kill them QUICKLY, not painfully. The painfully method just hinders it a bit or as he put its "is still 86% effective" as a killing machine.

[@Dirty_Davos]

whatya babbling? humans are bugs@@noobandfriends2420

[@orvixvaxis]

Well...... he also smiles in the dance/ball early in the film so it's not the only time, but it's the second of the only 2 times we see it lol.

[@MakeItUpAsIGo]

​@@orvixvaxisOP said "the only smile AFTER joining..."

[@natanoj16]

I googled Helldivers 2 ONCE and now I keep getting Starship Troopers videos :P :D

[@Arphalia]

Sadly this guy's assessment of the film is borked, but the Helldivers 2 is fantastic.

[@adora_was_taken]

@@Arphalia borked how?

[@CafeLiquerstreams]

Tbh i hope he does the other movies. duty, courage, honour is A BEAUTIFUL propaganda piece, I even sing it while purging termanids on angels

[@emokidk2]

well there is achully starship trooper game

[@failtronic2646]

@@adora_was_taken a complete and total lack of understanding of facism as well as toting how the whole story is a commentary on facism when that is only an element of the movie and isn't present at all in the book.

[@wendellswendell2001]

As a fellow HellDiver, I'm here because I'm getting information on how to do my part.

[@vadandrumist1670]

You'd best look elsewhere, this one's sided with the bugs.

[@noahhamilton5974]

Would you like to know more?

[@redlantern01]

22:22 its insane how it didnt register that those were kids when i saw the movie

[@BubblesTheBard]

One of my favorite things that happened because of this movie is that Power Rangers: Lost Galaxy used the Mobile Infantry uniforms for a few episodes.

[@kenbrown2808]

there was a Firefly episode that had the body armor in it as well, the train job, or an episode name to that effect.

[@evandmarlow]

These uniforms apparently have been everywhere

[@kreigguardsman3355]

I want one of those uniforms

[@matheusbarbosa6426]

helmets are in halo series as of now

[@bbrbbr-on2gd]

It's awesome when you can spot pieces in other works.

[@Mildcat743]

The 'do you wanna live forever?' Line is actually pulled from real life. Marine Sergeant Dan Daly, one of only two men to be awarded two Medals of Honor, was leading his Marines during the Battle for Belleau Wood in World War I. His men were very green and inexperienced, and had been hammered by German artillery for days. When Daly was given the order to charge the German position ahead of their trench, he climbed a ladder at the front of his trench and said 'Come on you sons of bitches, do you want to live forever?' His men's charge was pivotal in the US winning the day at Belleau Wood, and Daly was put up for a third MOH for it, but somewhere up the chain of command, somebody decided one man having three MOHs was 'unfair', whatever that means.

[@NukeMarine]

Achtually .. Seven marines have been awarded two medals of honor. Only two were awarded for two separate actions. The other five were for WWI where the Marines served under the Departments of the Army and Navy so received a medal from both departments for the same action.

[@Mildcat743]

@@NukeMarine Fascinating, I actually didn't know that! I would have assumed such actions would have earned the MOH from the Army and the Navy Cross from the Navy, but that makes much more sense.

[@dwc1964]

the other one was Smedley Butler, who later wrote _War is a Racket_

[@Shft-T4b]

Me and the boys when we're dropping in Helldivers 2: "The only good bug, is a DEAD BUG"

[@copyright-hv6en]

SO LETS MAKE THESE BUGS GOOD!!!!!!!! FOR DEMOCRACY!!!!!!!

[@skullmaister]

DEMOCRACY HAS LANDED

[@_HippieThugg_]

@@copyright-hv6enFOR DEMOCRACY!!! [Bro hug emote]

[@copyright-hv6en]

@@_HippieThugg_ FOR DEMOCRACY!! [bro hug response]

[@s-094cam5]

COME ON YOU APES!! YOU WANNA LIVE FOREVER?!

[@sologamer3122]

Dude I still remember when you announced in a previous video that you were a proud new father some time ago. I know its not relevant, but I have recently found out I will be able to join your ranks as a proud father myself! Love the videos still.

[@milehigh96]

18:08 “90 percent of the way to an automaton.” My PTSD: “…to an automaton…automaton….automaton…..let’s do one mission in the creek, I’ll buy us drinks once we all get back after…after….after….”

[@hellacoorinna9995]

I love how at 20:36 he misses that Rico *is* enraged, and his 'That's what Mobile Infantry's good for" line is bitterly sarcastic.

[@DudeGuyBroGuy]

When the Marines fought in the Battle of Belleau Wood, Dan Daly yelled "Come on, you sons-o'-bitches, do you want to live forever?" It's an iconic line in the lore that is the United States Marine Corps.

[@brownierage1116]

I gotta be honest, I felt like you missed the greatest line of the movie for me... Rico: "You trying to be a hero Watkins!?" Watkins: "Just trying to kill some bugs, Sir!" Genuinely epic. Maybe even iconic haha

[@dr.gaming4860]

WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE SOLDIER??!?! 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 WE NEED YOU ON THE AUTOMATON FRONT ASAP!!!!!!!

[@aidenrodriguez6493]

SIR YES SIR! FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@Farakeet]

TAKE BACK THE CREEK!

[@GreatestGrookey]

TIME TO DISPENSE CUPS OF LIBER-TEA

[@buttahXD]

29:30 Verhoeven himself did in fact say that the Bugs did send the meteor, and if it wasn't for the hit to the ship it would've struck Geneva instead of Buenos Aries.

[@thurin84]

nedver knew that. thanks.

[@TheCitizenPain]

I think it works better as a false flag to drum up support for invading arachnid space. Also, source re: Verhoeven saying it was sent by the bugs? Doesn't seem to make sense, with arachnid space being literally across the galaxy and earth having asteroid defenses.

[@omwibya]

@@TheCitizenPain bugs have FTL in the book and it's somewhat shown in the movie scene Gravity Distortion Asteroid (look it up)

[@Squirleypoo]

@@TheCitizenPain I tend to believe that every meteor was a false flag. The government gains support for every meteor they destroy "See, without us you'd all be dead" and then when then need war support they just let one of their own meteors through. With every war, people become more apathetic and governments need to drum up support, maybe they perform their own false flag attack or they don't actively try to stop one they know is coming or they take out an opposition leader they know will garner support from their population.

[@denniskappacher303]

Verhoven did not comment on that as far as I know. Can you name a source? The meteor was very obviously a false flag operation.

[@skyshroudsylvan6022]

Zim taking a demotion to fight with the people he trained just reminds me of my job. Not in any sense of war but had a supervisor quit and then came back to work as an employee. Said he hated being a supervisor due to all the bullshit he'd have to put up with and would rather work with us. He was a great supervisor and now a great coworker. He would rather load trucks and I prefer to give people breaks so I switch jobs with him any time we're scheduled the opposite. Started when I was doing what I feel is the most boring job and he was scheduled to do breaks. I offered to switch with him (I could have forced the switch due to seniority, but have too much respect for him) but he declined until halfway through that day. Told me he was going to 'flip out' if he got back on a forklift due to all the pedestrians.

[@MrWrighthw]

This is a double nod to the Zim character in the book. As the company commander of Rico's basic training unit, he offers to be reassigned to a combat unit after messing up by letting a recruit land a punch on him. Later, at the end of the book, he is the fleet Sargent under Rico during Rico's assignment to a real unit as an officer as the final for officer's candidate school. Zim takes initiative and basically leads the capture of the first live brain bug. The book is available on Google Play and maybe other platforms. It is a short read. I find the premise of the mobile infantry much better in the book than the movie. But the power suits in the book would not work well at all in a movie, as they are akin to mechs. Hard to get good closeups of pretty actors in a mech.

[@Wonko-bj4jx]

Zim taking a demotion is a nod to the real Rodger Young, who took a demotion in WWII so he could enter combat despite being largely deaf

[@DonaldWWitt]

Deaf and nearly blind! And he didn't take a demotion to ENTER combat, they were already in the Solomon Islands, rather he had gained the Rank of Corporal as a National Guard Training Officer and felt his degraded senses made him unfit for such an active combat command position... AND THEN his Platoon fell into an ambush by a Japanese Machine Gun Nest, so he charges them as a distraction to let the rest of the unit escape!

[@Philip-1]

4:29 I'd have added that the singer on stage is Zoe Poledouris, daughter of soundtrack composer Basil Poledouris, and she's performing David Bowie's I Have Not Been to Oxford Town.

[@ironguardian2840]

9:03 I believe the term you were looking for is "Hugo Boss"

[@Thena_the_Grey]

Always hated his Rico shoots Rasczak in the abdomen instead of like, the head. No mercy there lol

[@FrobergDK]

Shot him through the heart no?

[@canebro1]

I thought it was right in the chest?

[@JohnDoe-wt9ek]

Technically the Solar Plexus, where the heart is at... And with the caliber they're using, there's no heart anymore.

[@blank4227]

Rasczak only lost his legs which we already know isn't fatal given their medical technology. The writer just needed an excuse to get rid of him and Dizzy, the deaths literally come out of nowhere.

[@palecaptainwolfkayls8499]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@blank4227 It’s not elaborated anywhere, but considering how most amputees we see have one prosthetic, if any, it could also be assumed that he didn’t want or couldn’t afford to live as a cripple for whatever reason.

[@DeceiverIX]

I saw this movie for the first time when I was WAAAAAY too little, but as an adult, it's one of my top three all time favourites... (SST, Galaxy Quest, and The Princess Bride). This film is the best example of why filmmakers need to use practical effects whenever possible, it just hold up sooo well! Also, I think it has one of the best film soundtracks ever!

[@rogueskype2217]

I saw this as a kid and fucking loved it, watched it and it's sequels as an adult and fucking loved it again, never got the fascist thing at all, also as an adult lusting after Dizzy as an adult and thinking Humanity Fuck Yea! (I fucking love the Imperium in W40K as well) but also Amy Smart! god she's perfection! For the Emperor!

[@fuzzypanda2804]

Apparently Van Dien has been playing Helldivers and loves it. We need a Rico Voice! For Democracy!

[@SHdrummerguy08]

I like how by the time we get the "They'll keep fighting, and they'll win!" at the end, I had forgotten that I was watching an in-universe propaganda film. When I saw the "and they'll win!" it read as ambiguous to me. I thought they might have been talking about the bugs winning.

[@siechamontillado]

Between this movie and wiping out Zerg scum in Starcraft 1, childhood in the mid 90's was all about bug stomping. Edit: originally wrote SC2 due to brain fart, good catch by all. I guess I'm ready for the retirement home.

[@NihlusKryik]

I’m impressed you played StarCraft 2 in the 90s

[@Zsinj3]

Also Men in Black

[@KaptifLaDistillerie]

Then in the 2000s came Band of Brothers and Halo.

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

I like how you say starcraft 2 instead of starcraft 1, given how in starcraft 1 the zerg are actually just kinda stomping everyone in all of the campaigns, whilst starcraft 2 has the zerg getting beatn to death for most of the campaigns.

[@siechamontillado]

@ima_TrinidadExcept when the Zerg met my Protoss that I definitely didn't use cheat codes to get unlimited minerals with so I could cover the entire minimap in a sea of blue cause I loved Pylons and putting cannons next to Pylons and thought the deeper shade of blue on the minimap, the better.

[@brutusvonmanhammer]

7:55 "On one hand, a very solid point..." as Ace has a knife stuck through his palm 😂😂😂

[@1gunni834]

Time to ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ them bugs

[@mturker100]

For Super Earth!

[@thewarriorwithin7415]

Iconic counter: we are going in with the first wave…..means more bugs for us to kill!!! Best line and delivery of the movie. Great video

[@AleksKieca]

19:10 this one clip just made me realize that The Federation is technically still using M14s based on the bolt design.

[@MultiMcgruber]

Even more fun, they're full auto conversions of the Ruger mini-14 in .223, and iirc the film holds the record for blanks fired.

[@AleksKieca]

@@MultiMcgruber you can say 5.56

[@MultiMcgruber]

@@AleksKieca Pretty sure Bill "King Fudd" Ruger made the og Mini-14 in .223, but if they used the AC-556 in the film, then yeah, they'd be chambered in 5.56 Of course, that's mostly pointless pedantry.

[@immikeurnot]

@@MultiMcgruber The muzzle devices are M-60 flash hiders.

[@g00gleisgayerthanaids56]

Take it up with the prop department, poor props cant be used to make inferences for in universe tech...

[@marcellhegyi1363]

ive heard that the directors have said that the asteroids ARE sent by the bugs

[@thelastone0001]

The book says it as well

[@diomedes7971]

They won't listen, they refuse to acknowledge anything neutral or positive from this fictional setting because it's a boogeyman.

[@diomedes7971]

That can't be! The scary looking trench coat men can't be justified in anything!

[@syrienangel4137]

I mean, they did

[@oscarlove4394]

​@@thelastone0001 In the book it makes sense, the bugs have got technology, space travel and so on. in the movie all we see is ground troops, so for all we know they're still planet-locked. Paul verhoeven admitted he didn't read the book, so book and movie are basically completely seperate works.

[@hackabusi]

Used to watch this religiously when I was younger - absolutely devastated when Dizzy died ... but like most posters recently .. Helldivers 2 brought me here!!

[@Ozai75]

The "Come on you apes, do you want to live forever?" Is a take on Dan Daily's famous quote to his Marines in WW1 during the fight for Belleau Wood. "Come on you sons of bitches, do you want to live forever?"

[@CursedPR]

15:33 Father Gabriel?! Also, love that Helldivers 2 has made this amazing film popular again

[@braydoxastora5584]

25:15 not seeing Zim do anything heroic. Gets busted back to private so as to be able to join the fight on the frontline. Gives rico a mouthguard to help with the lashes. Ding ding -2 points

[@ClonedGamer001]

Fun fact, the "Wanna live forever?" line isn't actually from Starship Troopers. The original quote was said by Sergeant Major Daniel Daly during World War 1

[@AB-gk8cs]

It is much older. Probably the first time was by Frederick the Great to his soldiers (or at least attributed to him): "Dogs, do you want to live forever?!"

[@ClonedGamer001]

⁠​⁠@@AB-gk8csI mean, yeah, similar quotes have existed throughout history, but the specific format of "Come on you [derogatory slang/insult], you want to live forever?" was first said by Daly and has sort of become the 'default' form of such lines since. Plus if I'm not mistaken Daly is the earliest person we know to have definitely said it, rather than the quote simply being attributed to him.

[@BGRANT777X]

This is starship troopers 4th renaissance. Nobody gets the say this movie is underrated anymore.

[@g00gleisgayerthanaids56]

Its complete dogshit

[@user-xl5kd6il6c]

It is, no matter how much time passed, people (including this youtuber) still wrongly think it was a Fascist movie and satire. It portrays a Liberal Meritocratic Democracy with limited suffrage, by every metric. Calling it "fascist" only reveals the lack of understanding about what "fascist" even means

[@beanward_xd527]

@@user-xl5kd6il6c honestly I swear people these days think facism is when military and hugo boss

[@Saeiane777]

​​@user-xl5kd6il6c Paul Verhoeven literally disagrees with you but go off I guess?

[@badaboum2]

@@user-xl5kd6il6c I wouldn't call any society where you need a licence to have a kid "liberal". That's a massive limitation to personal freedom.

[@blank4227]

29:16 you'll try to quote the director and writer on the intent of the film but you won't bring up that the director and writer both said the bugs DID send the meteor. not even up for debate

[@JanitorScruffy]

This dude straight up did this video because of Twitter's mental gymnastics.

[@crocidile90]

That and when you look at what Paul tries to Fascize from the book..... it really shows the director bais (i.e. the quick conviction of the murder was also a pdf file whose murder victim was said child whom was "diddled" by the guy. So really it was quick because of the overwhelming evidence and crime.

[@DudeItsDan]

Where did you hear that? I can't find any mention of that anywhere, and it wouldn't make sense if it did. Every single thing I can find about the meteor states that it was clearly a false-flag.

[@user-xl5kd6il6c]

@@DudeItsDan The war started AFTER the Bugs genocided a city of 8+ million people, including the parents of the MC. The movie has very clear timeskips that people seem to ignore The bugs technology to do it is also shown both in the movie and in the book

[@spinosaurusstriker]

​@@user-xl5kd6il6cpeople forget that the bugs can shoot plasma through space, with that anole you can send a meteor to another planet by knetic force alone.

[@Abrxas01]

Can't really attribute to LT. Ratsczack's the whole 'wanna live forever' line. The original quote is from a US Marine Daniel Daly in WWI one of two who earned the MoH twice for two separate acts of Valor. According to Marine Corps lore, Daly rallied his men at the Battle of Belleau Wood by yelling, "Come on, you sons-o'-bitches, do you want to live forever?

[@Black_Sheep_0213]

And according to other comments on here, the quote predates even that, allegedly.

[@lionguardant5468]

It's also attributed to Frederick the Great of Prussia at the Battle of Kolin (1757)

[@indi370]

So, on the red floors bit, that was actually a tactic used on naval vessels at one point (and if I'm not mistaken there are some countries that still do it). Think the general idea was "If you can't see your buddies blood and guts as easily, you won't be thinking about it" and maybe a bit of "Don't have to clean to thoroughly if the floor matches the mess......"

[@Cre80s]

16:42 Disagree, it wasn't a "bad choice" to have not chosen Diz first, it only demonstrated that he wasn't playing favorites. Choosing Ace first demonstrated honesty. And for the choice to subsequently fall on Diz, and after she witnessed it was all following a fair-minded "right of first refusal", she had no reason to not be pleased with how the position moved naturally in her direction, and there was no bad blood.

[@JuanSolos]

"graboids are from Klandathu" is the wildest thing ive heard lol

[@MikeLeroi31]

"Flip six-ed right in the brain bug three-hole" Also qualifies for an ICONIC line 🤣

[@marcusg3058]

Plot twist: Rasczak got all of his lines from the previous platoon leader. And that guy got it from the guy before him. The roughnecks have literally only ever had three lines for their 40 year history

[@TheGreatestBaryonyx]

I would just like to say one thing. I *LOVE so much how the Arachnids (the yellow and black soldiers) are seen with absolute ZER0 self preservation. I mean at 19:31 they are literally climbing on dead bodies. There are plenty of alien medias, a lot of alien bug medias, but not many alien bug wave-survival style medias. The only other one that springs to mind being Deep Rock Galactic, but this had to pull of the shear fear that real people would feel so well. Like the endless streams of big bugs. The vile and literal merciless tendencies of the arachnids. The shear carnage! Easily my... probably joint favourite film.

[@mattofsmegpoop3027]

I always thought those kids at the end were more of a perception change, because of what they had seem that year they saw others as children.

[@drakedge2000]

I didn't realize that Hank Shrader was doing his part. Musta been after his minerals, which is why he needed him there 11:50