EVERYTHING Wrong w/ Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker!

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We basically recall the ENTIRE Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker film from memory in order to debate and discuss all the Spoilers, Plotholes, Mcguffins and Elements that just didn't work - along with those that DID work! Get strapped in, its our longest video ever!
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[@jeremylister704]

“Who are you” “Rey” “Rey who” Rey looks to the distance to see Luke and Leia and the gives a little smirk on her face as she opens her mouth and says... “Rey’d Shadow Legends. With over 16 million downloads, Raid shadow legends is free, turn based game with over 400 characters to collect. The devs add 16 champions each month and are constantly updating the game.”

[@user-de8nl6uj4j]

this is gold oh my god

[@busterwolf3]

Lmfaoooo

[@michaelt8673]

😂

[@joshualagrimas9555]

It's sad that I've played it, and I grew to like it. xD

[@leviathangaming5938]

Dude this got me 😂

[@Briansgate]

the healing....Anakin literally turned to the dark side specifically to learn the dark arts of manipulating life force to save his wife. Rey learns that shit in 60 seconds.

[@mrChasenMONEY]

Fuck man I hate it here

[@toverstreet2015]

It completely invalidates Anakin's turn to the dark side.

[@ggmasterguiltygear6315]

Her being able to suddenly do all that crazy shit practically broke the plot.

[@fallencrown6069]

Thank you .

[@LilotheBetta]

Cause shes a palpatine

[@jeremykeitt784]

Rey : *Heals any wound possible* Anakin's Force Ghost: "Wow." Ben: *Brings his loved one back to life without any training* Anakin's Force Ghost: "Wooooooooooooooow."

[@alpass72886]

😂😂😂

[@uncouthLIyouth]

😂 should have way more likes

[@aimanmarzuqi4804]

Anakin is definitely force rolling in his force grave. Anakin: Nooooooo!

[@dylandavis781]

Lmao.

[@gameoverinsertcointocontin8102]

Disney: Doesn't bring back Luke or Anakin Fans: Awww

[@mikemeyer8632]

Can we just appreciate how Alex remembered the entire movie scene by scene

[@felipeguidolin1055]

That's his curse, forced to perfectly remember this movie to the end of his days

[@blackwolf4653]

@@felipeguidolin1055 what a horrible fate

[@reanschwarzer2187]

I mean it’s always easier to remember painful events

[@reanschwarzer2187]

@Nunya Bidnezz thanks 👍

[@bellystraw]

Alex always has this beautiful "dissappointed mom" face. Like it's scary accurate

[@ProjectDelta1]

Calls herself a Skywalker, never lost a limb.

[@willimorris1083]

I think her actually DYING was her limb LOL

[@ackers5861]

Willi Morris and then she came back a few minutes later good as new...

[@captainobvious4556]

She literally never had a wound in the entire disney trilogy.

[@VegetaLF7]

@@captainobvious4556 Her arm got cut in TLJ during the throne room fight

[@jaredcicero5228]

She never had a brain

[@draca6426]

Poor Anakin, Rey buries his lightsaber in sand

[@papaemeritusii7039]

The irony is not lost on us. Fuck Disney, and fuck that wretched human excrement kathleen kenedy. Wheres that kenedy curse when u need it ?

[@ksng767]

@@papaemeritusii7039 I gave up on Star Wars as well, but are you seriously wishing death on someone over movies? You are the real human trash here, people like you are worse than everyone that contributed to the failure of Star Wars, you are the result of it.

[@FuckoffgoogleGetDoxxed]

@@ksng767 To be fair the movies stopped some people from suicide and helped them in ways you couldnt imagine, let alone the cultural impact and morals that promote freedom and values that go beyond culture. Wierd how that works i guess. But yea she shouldnt die she should just get handicapped for the rest of her life. And believe me the movie is utter trash and it hurts the world more than you think wich is why it got sabotaged so fucking hard by god knows wich evil people. Go take some studies on cultural clashes and the importance of cinema in shaping and evolving worldwide culture.

[@TubeEamo]

How did she even fix it? It was broken in two the last film. What was the point of breaking it just to have it be brand new again? And why didn't she just find Luke's green bladed lightsaber? Instead of trying to shoehorrn in Leia being a Jedi dropout.

[@meltd47s17]

KS Ng who did he wish death on you little spazz I’d say you’re the garbage for having a typical little bitch reaction to something someone says.

[@KizaruB]

The original characters lived depressing lives after Return of the Jed and were killed off fighting the same exact conflict. These movies made their deaths pointless. This movie makes Anakin look insignificant even though he was the one prophesied to finally bring balance to the Force.

[@BenFM]

Borsalino Kizaru these movies made all of Star Wars pointless

[@Agrothewarhorse]

Shpuld have gone with the Yuzhong Vong invasion storyline

[@ziz1983]

Thats right, cos disney sucks

[@BenFM]

Haku infinite yep agree with all of that. And the funny thing is that force healing is only one of 10+ things so wrong about this film

[@F34RDSoldier805]

@Haku infinite force healing has been a thing in legends and during the Old Republic days. How anyone at this age learned it is beyond me. Baby Yoda knows force heal but that can make sense considering the mystery of his race. All we know so far is that Yoda's race naturally has a strong connection with the force and that they are born with strong force abilities. Also they live really long lives. Other than that nothing.

[@networknomad5600]

Interviewer: "Why is she so powerful?" Director: "Yeah, spooky right?" No. No it's not.

[@Victor-fm3xd]

It is spooky, cause it’s so shit lmao

[@nunyabidness8281]

Shitty*

[@tjjordan4207]

More frustrating than spooky

[@Jordo246]

I'm convinced JJ Abrams made everything up he said in interviews as he was going along. Saying it was intentionally done that way, okay so they intentionally wrote a shit boring as fuck character with no arc or growth just to have an even shittier pay off? Nah, we all know they just didn't plan anything and they just won't admit it.

[@arroe8386]

@@Jordo246 He said her arc was being extremely powerful, but struggling to find her place in the world, yet she finds her place in the first half of the first movie of the trilogy

[@captainobvious4556]

Disney: "This is a wayfinder." Star Wars Fans: "No that's a sith holocron."

[@AgentActive]

I really thought they would introduce holocrons

[@tobi79777]

Yess

[@DFTNSHEXGRM]

@@AgentActive They introduced holocrons in Jedi Fallen Order.. dunno why it's not in the movie. Just another example of the film studio not collaborating and keeping up with cannon in the extended universe..

[@adaptivegamer9905]

THANK YOU!! THE whole time I was omg that's a damn holocron just say it is why change the name of allll the BS in this movie they had to add a little more diarrhea and call it a wayfinder of whatever. Good lord this trilogy

[@Bigbadpoppaj]

Ehh... arent most with holocrons hidden information. A way finder is essentially a GPS

[@jaredAkyaw]

Rey was hella disrespectful. Burying Anakin’s saber in the sand, we all know he hates sand

[@Nick-fc4wu]

It...gets...everywhere........

[@kx7500]

Okay I disliked this comment till the end lmao. *echoes in the far distance* I h a t e s a n d . . .

[@KizaruB]

That trilogy still had more payoff than this one

[@jaredAkyaw]

Borsalino Kizaru is it bad that the only Star Wars property I ever fell in love with was the Clone Wars TV Show. I only watch 1-6 like four years ago so maybe I don’t have the nostalgia but Clone Wars Anakin and Ashoka will always be my favorite Star Wars characters

[@edwardrichtofen8530]

@@jaredAkyaw dude, i love the prequel trilogy based off that tv show alone. Easily made it all worth it. Heck, it skyrocketed my love for anakin.

[@RS-kt6bo]

Finn's character arc in the trilogy The Force Awakens - Rey!! The Last Jedi - Reeyyy!!! The Rise of Skywalker - Reeeyyyyyyy!!!! and then she makes out with Crylo.

[@RikaRieGaming]

Another series bending the knee for fan-fiction BS, hate this shit so much.

[@Factboy12]

It's so sad, but it's true, this was Finn's character arc.

[@jasonhowell7601]

@@Factboy12 Agreed, Finn could of been a great character, instead his only propose was to scream Reeeeyyyy! He should have been an inconic character, but KK wouldn't let anyone steal Rey's spotlight.

[@wv11989]

Disney cant help turning every black character into a token while preaching diversity and counting dollas

[@H2Zv1]

This the most accurate description of Finn ever.

[@CharlemagneGuy127]

Didn’t Daisy Ridley confirm in a recent interview that JJ kept bouncing around with different ideas of Rey being a Palpatine, a Skywalker, a Kenobi, or just Rey Nobody, confirming that they never had a clear vision of Rey’s ultimate identity as a Palpatine?

[@extratao50]

Yes YES i mean with the mess that this trilogy was it was obvious

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

I think she was originally a Kenobi. But TLJ ruined that.

[@Obiwan1994Kenobi-iv4jf]

yep

[@robertparker6280]

She did

[@robertparker6280]

@@A_KZbin_Commenter Yeah Ruin Johnson told J.J. to change his movie (Episode 7), so it could fit Ruin Johnson's movie (Episode 8).

[@rainyknuckle9440]

So Luke and Leia trained Rey even though they knew that she is Palpatine from the very beginning but Luke tries to kill his own nephew just because he senses dark in him? Damn it.

[@tims7174]

the hole just gets deeper and deeper :D

[@nigerundayo1996]

No no it’s because Ben had a bad dream

[@adad87821]

thats what happens when directors change mid trilogy and fucks everything up

[@Naalders]

@@adad87821 thats not completely true, the problem was that there was no creative controle from above. Johnson had all the freedom and as a director known for subversion, thats not a good combination for a sequel in a trilogy

[@peds7099]

Because of the whole force dyad thing maybe he sensed Rey through Kylo? That film has many plot holes 🤷🏻‍♂️ .

[@bubblegumdukem9758]

This whole trilogy is just Rey taking everything from Luke. His sword, powers, home, name... like wtf

[@JRGProjects]

MeowCore Ben should have inherited that when he was redeemed

[@UncleHyena]

Holy shit you’re right

[@zom8680]

Cant call him Ben Skywalker or else you are taking something from the extended universe and we know how Emperor Mickey feels about those books

[@stewartplays]

Esoteric occultism. She steals his legacy and claims it as her own.

[@JohannaTheStargazer]

MeowCore Batwoman 😂

[@britbloc123]

I've seen more footage of Daisy Ridley training to be Rey, than I've seen of Rey training to be a Jedi. :(

[@MrXMysteriousX]

Lol well put

[@BUBBA808]

britbloc123 straight up bro

[@x3wildcard]

rofl true

[@schools-online]

@@x3wildcard What would you have taken out of the film to show her training?

[@x3wildcard]

@@schools-online Maybe replace one of the macguffin hunts in the beginning. Doesn't even need to be long. Make it a montage with cuts between scenes like an old school boxing movie. It's not rocket science.

[@HEHEHE_I_AM_A_MASKED_WARRIA]

I like Han's appearance and all, but I think Anakin's ghost would've been much better. Having Kylo's idol tell him that what he's been doing is wrong would've really ensured his turn to the light.

[@DANRYX]

I like that idea but it would leave even more questions such as why would Anakin never appear until now when he could have intervened during his training with Luke, when he was channeling him in TFA or when Ren goes to the salt planet in TLJ. I still like the idea though it would be hard to find the right spot and dialog to make it work.

[@sacredhealstv901]

@@DANRYX I get your argument. But the fact is you're not payed to do movies. They are. It's their job to answer those questions not ours. And I could even come up with ways

[@chanceneck8072]

​@@DANRYX Easy to fix problems with good writing. They could have added to the lore, make Anakin´s force ghost appear and make him say something like, he just has enough force power left inside him, that he can only show himself one last time, because he died so long ago. So he saved it for this important moment. Or maybe come up with something even better, I don´t know. I´m not even a good writer, I would say, I suck at writing. But even I could come up with at least two or three different ideas to improve on basically every single plot hole, that this movie has on the spot! And to you, @Sacredheals TV : What a shitty point, you´re making! "We´re not paid to do movies, they are" Ok,... BY WHOM?? Exactly! BY US MOVIEGOERS! So they better come up with stuff, that´s compelling AND makes sense! NOTHING in this whole trilogy makes any god damn sense and this movie was by far the worst offender. Maybe it is not our job, but it is our right, to explain, how to do better and given what huge of a fuck-up this whole thing was from Disney, I even think, it is our god damn DUTY to show them, how to make it better!

[@tunkunrunk]

Too many ghosts appearance. Ghost Skywalker lifting his x wing out of water , is too much . In star wars movies wrecked spaceships are still operational

[@chanceneck8072]

@@tunkunrunk Oh there were so many things in this movie, that felt like "too much" for me. Luke lifting the X-wing is just one of them. Already him catching the lightsaber was so fucking stupid... EVERYTHING in this film was so fucking stupid basically. I can think of EXACTLY ONE moment, that I liked. And THAT´S IT! (The moment where the spy is revealed and then Poe´s response "I KNEW it!!". That was cool, that was funny, I liked it....)

[@Archangel125]

Palpatine: strike me down and I win Rey: kills him with lightning Palpatine: oh no I lose

[@AdamG1983]

He killed himself technically

[@AimlessSavant]

@@AdamG1983 Rey used lightning.

[@charles2241]

No, not at all, in fact Palpatine shouldn't had died, and it's all due to stupidity. Would you say that the Emperor's lightning blast, in this case, was an EMP blast (well, at least similar to one)? Did you notice ANYBODY dying from his blast? No. Why? BECAUSE EMP'S DON'T KILL PEOPLE. They didn't kill a single alliance person, nor damage the ships in any way, save it knocked out their electronics, which is partly what EMP's do. So, the force bounce off Rey's sabers shouldn't have even scratched him. For once, boys and girls, the Emperor going into a frenzied attack he cannot pull out of, MAKES PERFECT SENSE, BECAUSE IT WAS incapable of hurting him in the least (except if he had a pacemaker, and even then, the pacemaker would had stopped long before Rey got close, since the EMP effect presumably takes place from the point of firing onwards. So now I hear you say, well certainly he changed his method of attack and resorted back to his killer lightning we saw in ROTJ. No. Because he never stopped firing (and IIRC, the alliance computers didn't come back up until the Emperor died), plus if he did change, he would have to cease the EMP blasting, then start up the other lightning, and he never did that. What's more, the killer lightning looks much different coming out of the hands, as it spreads to lightning form almost immediately. These EMP blasts went out as solid blasts for quite a while before they spread in a more familiar lightning pattern. These people were so stupid, seriously. Just to prove it even more, how do you stop an EMP blast from effecting the Final order's fleet as well? You can't, yet he did. This is because EMP's don't directly attack just certain ships or homes, they attack an entire area. The only leg you could stand on as far as that goes, is to think the two fleets hadn't intermingled at all. I guess you could also say this EMP style effect, doesn't work in quite the same way to achieve electronics hits, but the point is that EMP blasts do not harm life itself, and as the alliance didn't lose a single scratch due to it, then obviously it has the characteristics of not being able to harm life in any form just like an EMP, meaning, the Emperor got ripped off here, BADLY. And then insult of insults, we're told the fleet can't evacuate, or maneuver at all, due to some command control nonsense they made up. Wow, throughout all of humanity and it's wars, it is often the opposite is the case, because often losing command will actually see guys, whether in panic or not, LEAVE to just get away, or to shorten their lines of communications and also to more quickly have reinforcements get to their area if any are coming. This is just blatantly embarrassing how lame they were about the most basic things. They didn't have a clue. They would have been FAR better served to claim the Final Order never retreats, or surrenders, but no. It's such a dumb movie and the worst of the entire SW universe.

[@siddaslothman2273]

Even tho it didn’t matter. The worst part is that Palpatine told Rey his plan about her killing him. Why? Rey would’ve definitely killed him quick if he hadn’t told Rey his plan. I mean he’s a political master mind and Sith Lord. He shouldn’t be acting like a fucking b-list James Bond villain. XD

[@Elessar0wind]

@@siddaslothman2273 Cause his actual plan was to drain the power of Rey and Ben's force bond, or at least the movie wants us to believe.

[@Kitchibi]

I'm pretty sure the one thing we can all agree is.. Palpatine said DEW IT.

[@jiririnagl302]

It was so forced and cringe.

[@nicolasgarcia2280]

Kitchibi my friend and I laughed so hard at that moment

[@RureLyther]

And "gooood"

[@azrael2435]

Fehrplay shut up it was perfect!

[@amacoutdoors2076]

Loved that line

[@MusicLoverx3]

Thanks for giving constructive critism to my fanfic! It means a lot

[@Gilgamoth]

savage.

[@YoBoyGio]

Music Lover I see your the original but I’m the improved clone #21 lmao 😂

[@johnAG]

@@adamquery7048 stop being so mean i think its his first time writing

[@tobi79777]

Literally

[@johnAG]

@@adamquery7048 why are u mad?

[@myst_desendant8876]

Qui gon: I’m gonna die Obi: Let me force heal you

[@amarez7579]

You made me hate this shit even more

[@zimminati6002]

Darth Vader: I am decrepid and am goin to die from lava. Palpatine: Ay lemme force heal you

[@zidahya]

@@zimminati6002 Padme: I am going to die from maybe a broken heart. Soon to be Darth Vader: Nay, Lass. Lemmi force heal you real quick.

[@mat3714]

These aholes sneaked that shit into mando to justify that crap.

[@W1ndyctymayh3m]

Vader fuckin dies Luke: lemmie force heal u

[@OwnageMancer]

Kylo sees a clone of Snoke, next to a clone of Palpatine. "Meesa been every voice you ever heard in your head."

[@charleswinters9567]

Oh god oh fuck

[@angelzgalaxy4975]

There was a clone of palpatine

[@angelzgalaxy4975]

?

[@DOCBurkio]

I would be okay with that

[@egirlcafemanager7119]

Dude wtf, my brain automatically used jar jar's voice

[@jackgrady6011]

“Everything wrong with star wars rise of skywalker” *video is over 2 hours*

[@arturoherbert8786]

Jajajjajaja

[@jasonp7423]

Almost as long as the movie haha

[@yak_own1180]

Jason P longer

[@dyroth]

Jason P lmfaooo

[@grease6314]

6 minutes longer

[@pacoramon9468]

The entire triology is just a kick in the balls to Anakin: Palpatine is still alive. A girl named Rey was the "real" chosen One. His lightsaber is buried in sand. His son Luke did nothing after the 2nd Death Star and died anyways. Anyone can bring people back from the death now.

[@davidpower5710]

paco ramon not just to him but his whole family line

[@kingdavey90]

the death star is no longer special. you can litterally mass produce a tiny cannon that does the same thing as the death star.

[@Excalibur2112]

Episodes 7-9 are not Canon, anyways, just fan fiction... Vader killed Palpy and was the chosen one. End of Story.

[@mhc706]

paco ramon 28:17 "my son sucked"

[@donjon8382]

David Harris honestly that goes with any technology. At some point everything gets mass produced. I just don’t think enough time has gone by since the Death Star lmao

[@mastergecko1178]

Me: "Rey is op." JJ: "Spooky right?" Me: "You misspelled stupid."

[@DFTNSHEXGRM]

Rey gets 2 lightsabers and doesn't make a double blade? She fights with a staff for god's sake

[@dimitrisbam5640]

@jocaguz18 yes because that would be the problem in a fantasy film that has the biggest plot holes of all time

[@DR3S1NGH]

jocaguz18 wtf are you talking about? Not the whole staff would be a lightsaber, only the end parts.

[@blackdragoncyrus]

I think they meant that with a staff, you can safely hold it wherever on the entire thing , unlike a double saber, you can only hold it at the handle, the middle.

[@jk12324]

Her own yellow one could be, it's integrated into her staff

[@gloriouspurpose_]

I'm gonna assume they're nothing alike.. but it doesn't really matter, she could've used it and she'd probably be an expert with it like she is with everything else.

[@joshfromdundermifflin8973]

The knights of Ren... completely and utterly useless, how were they supposed kill Jedi when they had a 6-1 lead on kylo WITHOUT A LIGHTSABER AT FIRST and lost...

[@dayburks]

😂😂😂

[@hazardous8301]

Literally the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen. Not to mention that fight didn’t even make sense. They are a cult, they are not sith, they are not members of the first order. They serve who ever has the title of Ren. Who was Kylo, I don’t give a shit if he had renounced the name Kylo REN by that point they didn’t know that. They just RANDOMLY show up to try to kill the dude they served, why exactly?

[@Jabbadnut]

@@hazardous8301 I would have to agree. I actually really liked the film and wanted to like the Knights of Ren in it but they were pointless. Their roles could've been replaced by any troopers easily.

[@eternalbeing3339]

They did not even bother to explain the knights of ren. Were just added in for the fans.

[@hazardous8301]

darkfullgor 0_0 they weren’t sith and were not loyal to the sith. They did use the darkside but they saw the force very differently. They were a cult and there only loyalty was to the one with the title of Ren. They weren’t loyal to sith, nor were they to the first order. There only loyalty was to the Shadow(aka the force)and the one with the title of Ren. Your explanation does not explain anything because they didn’t hold a loyalty to anything u mentioned.

[@Crazozourus]

When C3PO was saying - "Taking one last look sir... At my friends." He meant the audience.

[@thecourier7964]

Crazozourus now this scene is emotional

[@arcanefury3666]

I still don't know why 3PO, Dio, and Babu were the best thing coming out of that movie. In my opinion

[@zachtemoro2116]

The weird thing I found about that scene was that Anakin built him. Why the hell would he make it so he can’t speak sith or translate it? I think it was just a way to give Poe some backstory which he DESPERATELY needed because he doesn’t get the screen time he deserves, but that was always the thing I kept in the back of my mind

[@TbYolo]

@@zachtemoro2116 Anakin built C3PO when he was a kid and he wasn't a Sith until he was an Adult

[@TheTriforceDragon]

@@zachtemoro2116 It is unlikely that Anakin programmed 3PO from scratch. Likely he found a protocol droid core module in a junkyard and built around that because otherwise Anakin would have had to program all those different languages into him. But even if he did, 3PO got a memory wipe near the end of Ep3 which, if it was not present before, would likely see him programmed with such restrictions.

[@mtarrence16]

The BIGGEST ball drop throughout the entire trilogy is the Finn character....they had such a unique Character in A brainwashed stormtrooper who was force sensitivity awakens during a massacre....a star wars movie led by a man who was emotionally confused and conflicted by his light side and his experience in the order knowing that the other stormtroopers are basically brainwashed kids and people trained to be soldiers...that storyline could've been amazing

[@scarman7866]

We had something close to that its called dark forces/jedi knight

[@HungryHipster]

Definitely not the biggest ball drop, not even close but yes they ruined the character.

[@mtarrence16]

@@HungryHipster I strongly disagree the biggest ball drop......everything else in the trilogy is kinda rinse and repeat or simply fall short with everything else which is what most expected.....Finn's character however or his potential represented something truly fresh and unique for the franchise this proven by the trailers of the first movie Finn was the attraction the main character this stormtrooper with the "iconic" bloody helmet has left the order and is now on a journey to become a new jedi? Hell yea...but not only did we not get that falling for a bait and switch but the first movie was simply a remake of the OG star wars. To add to the insult they basically drugged his character through the mud of irrelevance as the franchise continued..

[@HungryHipster]

@@mtarrence16 I can respect your feelings and opinions. In regards to ball dropping I will give you an example of why I feel differently, changing directors and essentially the story by which the next producer can go there own direction which Johnson did in the second film which by the way ruined alot of stories direction and definitely screwed over Finns arc. That alone is a bigger ball drop because with out a story or vision for a character makes the character irrelevant essentially . For me personally what they did with the lore of it all was a collosal failure and very very disrespectful to the fans who buy there merchandise read the novels, books , comics. Etc. I could go on but I'm to tired. Even though Finn isn't really a fan favourite for everybody overall, I thought he could of been way more interesting to say the least.

[@mtarrence16]

@@HungryHipster I understand were your coming from here and I must agree with majority of your statement but my thing is yeah relaying on the troupes and nostalgia of a beloved series to gain fan favor and failing is bad and the changing of directors hurt the trilogy badly but what's worse is Having created new life for the franchise from the Beginning and using a bait & switch to hook in fans, Having a new perspective of the lore only to sacrifice it for the old, and trashing a chance to branch out from the Skywalker lore.....why is finn's missed potential the worse ball drop? Because tho I understand your point the fact is those directors still had the opportunity to bring their story to life whether good or bad you saw the end product Finn's potential will never see that same respect. Essentially his character went from being just as important if not more than Ray and Kylo Ren (I'm pretty sure I said his name wrong lmao!) To becoming a joke character like JAR JAR and his story irrelevant

[@johnlightspeed5931]

Best ending for this trilogy would have been Luke waking up and say, wow, that was a bad dream.

[@cainabel6356]

That would have been the best ending of all.

[@Jako1987]

Instant classic

[@JIMvc2]

Imagine the riot's and backlash!! XD What if Luke had a dream all this time. What if Episode 8 and 9 is a prologue of Episode 7.

[@j.j.spliffstar9633]

Best ending for this trilogy would have been ME waking up & saying, wow, that was a bad dream. Or, the best ending for this trilogy would have been Hurley waking up & saying, wow, that was a bad dream.

[@ChalupaSlayerr]

John Lightspeed must’ve woken up from a coma

[@attinger117]

I think the end of the movie would have been a lot better if Rey dies killing the Emperor, Kylo climbs back up, mourns, then HE goes to Lukes farm, and he carries on the Jedi order and the skywalker name... since you know, he IS a skywalker.

[@averyjackblack7420]

I agree

[@drzaious8136]

Rey taking the Skywalker name is like if my 2nd cousin took my last name instead of his parents. Didn't bother me.

[@KairatIbrayev]

But whamen would be pissed

[@supabaku9078]

Honestly, wouldve been great to see Rey join the darkside with Kylo and end on a dark cliffhanger...

[@Gigolosgetlonely2]

This. Her death could have saved Ben Solo from The Dark Side. It would have added depth to their weird relationship and she could have redeemed the Palpatine name. Instead we get a weird kiss and Rey choosing to become a Skywalker for some weird reason even though it was thanks to the sacrifice of her Palpatine Parents she was alive to begin with.

[@LordAntisonic]

"What's your last name?"... "Don't have one?".... "Hmm, Rei Solo it is then."

[@Troop-]

LordAntisonic lmao. Cant believe people liked that awful solo movie too

[@NYC_Goody]

@@Troop- I too can't believe people have opinions. It disgusts me

[@lordshinumbra6441]

I liked it as a movie, just not a starwars movie

[@dk5558]

@@lordshinumbra6441 this here pretty much sums it up as a star Wars movie it's below average pretty bad but as movie I'll give it around a 5/10

[@Troop-]

@@NYC_Goody Your opinion can be that you like to eat shit, doesn't mean it's right or good

[@petrri323]

The worst part about this movie is that the ENTIRE PLOT: every planet they visit, every mcguffin they find, and every story beat; takes place within 16 HOURS. Early in the film they put forth a time limit on the Palpatine's plot. "We only have 16 hours to defeat the First Order or they will unleash the MEGA ULTRA DEATH RAYS on every planet in the system." Also the entire first 2 movies happen over the course of a WEEK. Or to put it another way: Monday Rey is on Jakku selling garbage, and by Friday Snoke is dead, the super death star is destroyed, and Rey has beaten Kylo TWICE. 1 year time skip between movie 2 and 3, then the entire final film happens in less than a single DAY's worth of time... So what we actually get to see on screen is LITERALLY LESS THAN A WEEK AND A HALF OF ACTUAL IN UNIVERSE TIME PASSING!!!

[@DeltaPrime95]

Massively underrated comment

[@MyopicPowerhouse]

That and also it is just pure garbage in every conceivable sense. What I learned from this whole thing is that JJ Abrams is all talk, no actual skill or knowledge. He CLEARLY faked it till he made it.

[@AdADglgmutShevanel]

Palpatine gets thrown into the reactor core and blows up with the death star, lost in the vacuum of space: "I'm fine!" Gets hit with his own lightning: "DEATH!"

[@isaiahkayode6526]

You got to be fucking kidding me!

[@exantiuse497]

Don't worry, he'll be back

[@DrachenYT]

The worst part of this is... well, he was ALREADY hit with his own lightning. Clearly at the end of Return of the Jedi when Vader was throwing him over the rail, you could see the lightning rebounding onto him. They can't even be consistent.

[@Vince-tt1uj]

​@@DrachenYT In Revenge of the Sith Mace Windu uses his lightsaber to block Palpatines' lightning it hits his face which explains his scars. Still not enough to kill him.

[@KneelB4Bacon]

JJ might as well bring back Vader while he's at it. I mean sure, we saw Vader die and then Luke burned his body but how do we know that Vader is REALLY dead? :p Some moron: "Vader is alive again because 'The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities-" * punch * * punch * * punch *

[@timdadoge6981]

I like how this video is longer than the actual movie

[@redwillowofdreams8931]

I was specifically looking for someone to comment this xD

[@eppsislike]

@@redwillowofdreams8931 why didn't you comment it yourself?

[@Sum1BetrThanU1]

There’s a lot to dissect

[@devinwatson4594]

I’m surprised this vid is so short. It can’t be everything

[@rosscardenas6636]

you say movie i say steaming pile of shit on the grave of star wars.

[@DerpChunks]

Wasn't one of the main reasons Anakin turned to the darkside was to learn how to force heal? Yet all of sudden Rey and Kylo both already know how to force heal out of nowhere.

[@andyfumo8931]

No no, Anakin turned to the dark side to learn how to end death. That's something force healing can't do, it heals injuries, doesn't prevent death. Disney saying that the cure for death is cloning..

[@teleskopossomnium]

andy fumo rey and kylo literally bring each other back to life, twice

[@andyfumo8931]

@@teleskopossomnium yes with bullshit Deus ex machina

[@MisterHalt]

So much Force power ass-pulling...

[@SomalianDuke]

andy fumo Bro did you even see the movie? Kylo brought Rey back to life...

[@hoboworldeater]

I've definitely seen this more times than I've seen the actual movie.

[@kingstonanith]

I haven't even seen movie, but seen this multiple times

[@alkeron598]

I thought I was the only one I watch this to go to sleep prolly watched it like 50 times tbh

[@TomTomTom87]

@@alkeron598 I watch those 9 hour "EFAP" star wars videos when I go to sleep lol.....they're still playing even when I wake up

[@chanceneck8072]

​@@TomTomTom87 Same here. I´ve even watched the order #66 EFAP that goes 12 hours multiple times all the way through. With some interruptions maybe. BUT: I did also try to watch Rise of Skywalker! 3 times total! I could NEVER finish watching it. Either too much cringe or I was rolling my eyes or felt intellectually insulted.... That almost happens never to me, that I just can´t watch a full movie! (Off the top of my head, I can think of only two other movies, I INTENDED to watch, but couldn´t ever finish: Transformers 2 and Full Metal Jacket) I watched shit like A Serbian Film or Braindead. I couldn´t finish watching Rise of Skywalker......

[@m0nk3yl0v3r]

🤣

[@ericsesame6321]

At this point, Disney could have just added a cameo of Rocket and Drax and it really wouldn't have made a difference like everything else. 😂

[@ericsesame6321]

To be honest, I admit my post doesn't make logical sense. Peter Parker is a Star Wars fan, which means that Star Wars is fiction-based material in the MCU. I am surprised Disney didn't integrate the two worlds to make money, but they have already done enough damage to Star Wars.

[@rmcdaniel2424]

Joe reviews by listening to the trolls. Why is he a spokesman and not a reviewer?

[@elee9682]

@@ericsesame6321 yea, don't go giving them ideas lmao

[@ericsesame6321]

@@elee9682 I wish I could unwatch the Sequels. I'm not a person who hates on everything, and the acting and special effects were fantastic, but I was attached to Star Wars and the characters. George Lucas made us feel like we were a part of the Skywalker family and now... they're all gone.

[@elee9682]

Eric Neely yea it’s just not the same, which it was never gonna be, but it doesn’t even come close enough

[@MarkDe94]

11 minutes into a 2hour 30 minute video: "ok thats the good Stuff..."

[@MasterChiefsSmurf]

Lmfao I'm dead 🤣🤣

[@Gill_consumes]

**"Palpatine hurt himself in confusion"** **"It's super effective!"**

[@revanthmunnangi5319]

again lmao. Thought he would've learned from almost getting killed by mace windu.

[@ackers5861]

@@revanthmunnangi5319 Palpatine hurts himself by fucking blue! Well done, Disney smh.

[@thephantomfantasia]

Gill Pokemon reference there

he did the ol' zapparino

[@izzy4292]

"Jar Jar is the key to all of this." George Lucas lmao

[@user-uy1rg8td1v]

Which should have turned into having Darth Jar Jar as the main villain for the sequel movies.

[@SuperMisteryMan01]

@@user-uy1rg8td1v would’ve been a much more original protagonist imo than darth Ren and clone of palpatine

[@EyeDyeGrys]

Ironic jar jar is most like disney of all characters.

[@aesir1ases64]

the sequels make jar jar looking like the greatest character ever

[@TheKingOfRooks]

It'd have been fucking hilarious if they revealed that Jar Jar was really Darth Plagueis

[@natehaskey9300]

Even if she is a Skywalker.. what did she “rise” from? She never struggled or worked hard for anything... like even the name of the movie is a plot hole

[@jagtech490]

Fel empire>first order who can’t even beat a small groups of rebels

[@slagcity]

Its about Ben

[@morningmilk257]

She rose from her pure rage and fear, and basically the dark side. She rose from her own lineage and became her own person. The Skywalker's heart and soul (because Rey isn't related in blood, though I think it is suppose to mean she is skywalker in heart) rose above palpatine. Skywalker vs. Palpatine is basically "good vs. Evil" so good rose above evil.

[@jagtech490]

Morning Milk not really the sky walkers are all dead and as far as we know since Rey strikes palpatine down it could be palpatine for all we know

[@bryanneideffer3969]

She is a Mary Sue everything comes natural so naturally her " rise " would come naturally..I mean earn or work for pffft

[@bigorange2082]

Palpatine won. His bloodline lives on. The Skywalkers are all dead. The dark side won.

[@marlowencna]

Diablo plot line. By the 10th film the empress won't be able control the voices on her head and go sacrifice tristram

[@anotherhappylanding4746]

Who asked for this absolute cluster fuck

[@vishawnjarvismaximoff3355]

@@anotherhappylanding4746 who had the audacity to direct this piece of shit and release it to the public

[@johnmecca9008]

NATE HIGGERS ur name is suspect.🤔

[@KozyGamer15]

Another Happy Landing hi

[@ChiipGames]

I did not like when Rey said "Rey Skywalker" Because the movie kept saying "Don't be afraid of who you are" And there she goes denying who she really is.

[@BlazingOwnager]

Well.. I don't know what people would think if she said Palpatine. Not defending the movie but I'd not be quick to announce my last name was Hitler, lol

[@ChiipGames]

@@BlazingOwnager Ofcourse i understand that, but it is an enourmous universe, i bet there's people named palpatine that aren't of the same lineage etc in the universe. And it would also present character development, an eternal struggle for Rey to prove herself to be different than her grandfather etc she'd show people that she isn't as terrible and so on. That's just my thoughts :)

[@Babyfacenelson1981]

@@BlazingOwnager lol you got a point... I predicted the name skywalker coming out, it's like character building entering the next phase of her life and leaving the darkside.

[@Cretincrusher]

@@BlazingOwnager If Hitler had a granddaughter who put an end to his life and regime the name would've been redeemed. Children should not bare the sins of their parents.

[@98TrueRocker98]

@@BlazingOwnager Oh c'mon guys. Why is the Fuhrer always the one compared? Why not stalin or churchill?

[@TheIrishTea]

I hate to correct you, Joe, but Plagueis, Sidious' Sith Master, WAS the one who created Anakin... By sheer accident. Plagueis and Sidious did a meditation thing, an experiment, to shift the balance of the Force towards the dark. This was why the Jedi's abilities were so impaired during the Clone Wars. Sidious went off to Coruscant to play politics, and Plagueis, drunk off of his power, pushed the Force too far; he tried to dominate the Force to create life of his own might. The Force pushed BACK at Plagueis, and as a result, Anakin was born. Plagueis KNEW that this child would be the Chosen One, but he never told Sidious what he did. Because of that, Sidious had no idea what his master did, and Plagueis died knowing that. Aka, back when Star Wars lore was actually good and consistent, lmao.

[@nicholas24120]

Should be higher in the comments

[@Frostmarrow]

The Emperor has spent countless hours practicing his sucking technique

[@TheLibrarianUU]

Ook! [Apparently he shared his knowledge with Disney so they made sucky movies.]

[@markwuahlbuargg4780]

Dammit, I hate that I laughed at this X3

[@alexl.4362]

The Emperor is a pimp

[@Jay_NSG]

George Takei: "Oooh myyyyy"

[@zipzeolocke2]

I loved the line Using force lightning is like Peeing, you can't stop once you've started! lol

[@skaking04]

I spent the entire movie as Han Solo saying "That's not how the force works!"

[@BIGD-cc7ru]

Ooof you not wrong!!!

[@mikkelnpetersen]

The Di$ney trilogy in a nutshelll

[@WafflezDay]

That scene with Leia in space in a nutshell. God that was dumb

[@MegaFinalRound]

Star Wars - Episode IX, a.k.a. Star Wars - “They Got Jetpacks Now?!!”

[@silverblade357]

"The Force is basically just plot magic now! Like it or you're some kinda phobic!" -Disney

[@mikeglasswell-gameplay]

The chewie death, was about to give Rey a flaw, she would have been responsible for his death. Which I would have loved. But they back peddled on it almost instantly

[@edwardrichtofen8530]

Probably cause audience reactions would have been terrible. Same with how they instantly take back c3p0s mind wipe.

[@mattthomas7639]

At that point in the movie I was actually intrested in where it was going, but nah it was just the one of many fake deaths in the movie

[@captainobvious4556]

Chewie died when a moon smashed him.

[@mikeglasswell-gameplay]

@Javin Newell but bad things can happen. And their deaths can have weight, and help drive meaningful character actions. I would rather that, than keeping him alive

[@mikeglasswell-gameplay]

@@edwardrichtofen8530 but this is an audience reaction. And I thought it was terrible

[@trenkys9327]

I'll never forget my experience with this film. We were at Czech premiere of it with 6 friends, I was at the end of our group next to a hardcore SW fan, Jedi outfit complete with shoes, lightsaber and everything. We ended the movie face in hands and we exchanged that "WTF have they done to our beloved franchise?!" Never before or since have I had such a connection to a complete stranger...so at least that is a good thing about this movie

[@Mukku90]

Meh, Star Wars ended at Return of the Jedi for me. I'll just ignore that this trilogy even exists.

[@blodiaaa6990]

Living in delusion isn't gonna make these movies disappear

[@joab757]

ms-mo exactly! I didn’t recon all the stories I read as a child.

[@dylanaustin6112]

This is the same for me, fuck these movies

[@内田ガネーシュ]

I left my brain at home like they left R2D2.... But my body fell asleep.

[@achaudhari101]

Denial is not an excuse

[@because7768]

Glad obiwan healed my boy quigon

[@CheefChaos]

The force wasn't Woke yet.

[@notrenbanney2450]

I think its suppose to be because she was a Palatine?

[@whodatninja439]

basically confirms Rey is more powerful than Yoda's species. lol what a relatable main character

[@theFPbros123]

because obiwan wasn’t written overpowered :(

[@fnfn9199]

or anakin or literally any other jedi healing padme

[@blakebryant7775]

When Kylo and Rey smooched, my whole theater broke out into confused or upset noises. It made me feel like the human race CAN get along.

[@leviathangaming5938]

Same dude, me especially.

[@cainabel6356]

LOL! I bet everyon was complaining about the same things too.

[@erzan]

Imagine kissing someone who tried to kill you and mass murdered billions. Terrible scene.

[@alexl.4362]

@@leviathangaming5938 Same Bro.

[@Alik_Odess]

Let me ruin it even further, They are technically related.

[@myst_desendant8876]

C3PO: I can’t translate because of Republic protocol Anakin: Let me update him so he can’t read sith writing according to Republic code when the republic doesn’t exist on tattooine which is explained it the movie

[@garrettsattem4799]

Perhaps some of the most important parts of C-3PO were pre-made scrap that came with those protocols that little Anakin stole from a garage sale or something? I don’t know man. Trying to explain away these plot holes is like trying to deep clean the Ganga River.

[@V_2077]

What? This was a galaxy wide protocol as during Palpatine time, an update if you will

[@myst_desendant8876]

@@V_2077 I didn’t know that at the time, that was 2 years ago lol, since then I’ve read every book

[@V_2077]

@@myst_desendant8876 One month later I don't even remember if what I said is true xD

[@weirdguygames4294]

No hands were cut off in this trilogy, ergo it is not Star Wars.

[@mr.anderson3553]

Yes, Indeed

[@cyrus9074]

Kylo cut of the hand of a random extra at the start of the movie. That's the best you can get here.

[@willigagbob8243]

"The odds are a million to one!" "Don't tell me...wait, the odds are that bad? Thanks for telling me, I'm definitely not doing that dumb shit. " New Trilogy logic

[@tomjacklin7421]

Snokes hands are cut off when he’s sliced in half

[@blueshattrick]

Anakin had THREE hands cut off...

[@nightruler666]

"If you turn your brain off and don't think about it." Since when star wars became fast and furious?

[@barajas27ka]

Since Disney bought them, u can't expect Everything to be explained in the last movie of a trilogy, that's what the 2nd movie is for but the 2nd movie did nothing but break the lore and fuck this trilogy up so this movie is just to enjoy at this point

[@boytype]

TFA

[@herbertscott9575]

Finn:We got another mission to go on Rey:Sunofabitch, I'm in!

[@tank_dempsey]

I mean you never really needed full brain capacity for Star Wars like it has always been kind of self explanatory but at the same time yeah, you never had to switch it fully off to enjoy it

[@decoyaardvark2828]

Since Ewoks with sticks and stones defeated the best troopers in the Empire.

[@absolutelysolid3011]

I payed money for 2 and a half hours of content, but now I got 5. Nice

[@absolutelysolid3011]

bad_ edits you’ve got a point there

[@Wahid_on_youtobe]

Jojo

[@ThnkiT]

@@arbitrary531 HAHAHAHA

[@__mindflayer__]

bad_ edits Damn, talk about burn to the sequel trilogy lol.

[@shackunn]

"payed"

[@myst_desendant8876]

Anakin: I Need Him Mace: I can teach you Force healing and toss me your light saber so I can do a cross. Palpatine: Dies Credits: Written and Directed by George Lucas

[@blackmagic1087]

Umm you guys .. the last scene where Rey is at Luke's old farm is a bit mis handled because shouldn't the farm have been burnt and shot to shit from a new hope?.??

[@dianebrooks1859]

Yea it was completely destroyed and there were no other relatives to build it up. So some random person got it and made it their farm I guess lol

[@jacobschellen4076]

@@dianebrooks1859 Or Luke returned? Did it himself.

[@dianebrooks1859]

@@jacobschellen4076 I did think that at one point, but doesn't he hate that planet and hate farming? Idk he doesn't strike me as a nostalgia kinda guy. Oh well

[@Iv3y_Lamar]

@@dianebrooks1859 the old lady that was asking who rey was, was probably the tennant

[@dianebrooks1859]

@@Iv3y_Lamar yea that's what i mean. A random person probably got the farm and built it up. I just don't really see the meaning in going back to a farm that Luke probably never visited again or cared about. Feels like nostalgia for nostalgia's sake. Idunno I'm kinda just whatever about it all 🤷‍♀️

[@fcukugimmeausername]

Wanna see another Star Wars movie Joe? Wanna see another Star Wars movie Joe? Wanna see another Star Wars movie Joe? Wanna see another Star Wars movie Joe? Wanna see another Star Wars movie Joe?

[@HikoraShinSo]

Wanna see another Star Wars Film Joe? Wanna see another Star Wars Film Joe? Wanna see another Star Wars Film Joe? Wanna see another Star Wars Film Joe?

[@Gryffon-wf3oh]

Hey Joe, wanna see another muh fukkin' Star Wars movie?

[@fcukugimmeausername]

@@Gryffon-wf3oh Start Wars? The prequel to Star Wars?

[@KizaruB]

Well technically mists sci-fi are about a war in the stars, so if that counts then sure.

[@olah547]

Goddamn how many star wars movie are there?

[@xerpenta]

Can we stop for a moment and appreciate the fact that this listing of bad aspects of the film is 6 minutes longer than the film? xD

[@danielfronc4304]

Speaks volumes.

[@magicrectangleEnt]

I've talked and thought about how bad and amazing The Room is for easily dozensof times the length of the actual movie lol, maybe hundreds

[@parkergroseclose6956]

Efap my friend

[@Peaceful_Gojira]

I'm sorry, what? (checking runtime now...processing...done! Initiating outrage:) *WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUU-*

[@extratao50]

@Victor Kurske oh man can't wait for the 12 hours rant of mauler for rise of skywalker

[@justinwiseman8965]

What pissed me off is kylo killed his father han to prove his darkside allegiance but then later turns to the light and kills snoke. Hans life was pretty much a waste. 😢 I hate rey.

[@KizaruB]

The First Order was the most inconsequential regime in Star Wars history. Their reign was short-lived, their motivations were poorly characterized or not characterized at all, and we saw them accomplish almost nothing of value. The writing in his trilogy was horrendous. What was the point of the Order except as plot macguffin to set up conflict? Do they actually intend to rule the galaxy or just to eliminate the resistance?

[@Pit_Lord]

Borsalino Kizaru They had a point before the Last Jedi said Fuck it. The entire final order and palpatine developments are because of TLJ. They needed a big bad, it was never to be Kylo, and they had to make him into a giant threat out of nowhere. That being said the first order was just an extremist cabal of former empire personnel under new leadership with better tech, and they did manage to according to TLJ conquer the galaxy, which is either 1.) more than the empire did or 2.) finishing what the empire started. Regardless of how you interpret it, they succeeded in perpetuating an even more brutal status quo than the empire, with far fewer resources, and did so against an organized legitimate republic and a sect of former rebellion personnel dedicated to opposing them, which is actually more impressive in a way.

[@KizaruB]

Pitt Lord but my issue is they never explored why the First Order wants to take over and we never got to see a single second of them using their sovereignty. I think they just expected us to assume it’s a new Galactic Empire but didn’t explore it one bit. They were just used as villains for the entire trilogy but never actually used their rule onscreen. Their entire function in the new trilogy was to have a belligerent to fight the resistance, that’s it. No depth or motivation.

[@seto007]

One thing that you have to give Lucas credit for was that he was able to build both convincing and interesting world's that felt alien yet familiar. The worlds the characters inhabit in the Disney films feel like cheap immitations of the actual Star Wars universe. None of the culture or politics that's encountered by the characters feels interesting or has character; it feels like it's just been quickly and cheaply put together in a board room.

[@shadowthehedgehog3113]

Their motivations to be fair were clear. They wanted to restore the empire and the "order" they felt the galaxy needed. The final order was just bloodthisrty and a manifestation of the will of the dark side of the force. Too evil to even be considered fascist or any kind of coherent political ideology-just out to destroy.

[@gzzuss]

That is what happened when the 1º and 2º filmmakers we're playing tug of war!

[@efancording6363]

Anyone else think Ben was a far better character than Rey? How tf was she even more powerful than him? Ben is the grandson of the chosen one (anakin). Rey is the granddaughter of Palpatine. Had anakin reached his peak with an intact body Palpatine would have been nothing to him

[@Fadingxx]

It's definitely a problem with how Rey was written. She didn't go through the heroes journey properly. She just suddenly gained whatever power she needed, when she needed it. Meanwhile every other Jedi had to train from childhood to obtain their abilities. With Luke being the exception, and even then he almost wasn't train for being too old at the time. Only gaining his powers by being trained by one of the best, Yoda. While struggling to lift a boulder.

[@Ruckzuck236]

Sometimes children are very special and a little bit slower than the other children. Ben is one of these special children.

[@kaiserauthoria]

Anakin is a force baby. Rey is the new chosen one

[@mariusloveless7880]

Also the fact that Ben Solo was ACTUALLY trained as kid and teen under Luke Skywalker himself, he had SOME formal Jedi training, the whole "Luke decides to kill Ben" trope was fucking ridiculously terrible writing, first of all Luke is a Jedi and killing based off a vision you had is completely against Jedi morals, secondly this is LUKE SKYWALKER we are talking about, the guy who walked in and believed he could actually turn DARTH VADER, Luke has so much hope he believed in himself to turn a man who had turned to the Dark side permanently, years and years and years ago and was literally a full fledged Sith, but all of a sudden he does not think he can coax the dark side out of a boy who had just been turned recently and never became a sith? Kylo Ren should have Ben leagues ahead of Rey, Palp blood or not. Like you said the Skywalker bloodline is the most powerful, it defeated Palpatine once and spawned the two greatest Jedi ever. Rey was not a Skywalker so her mary sue , powerful for no reason abilities make ZERO sense if Ben Solo has an even more powerful bloodline. Palp/Sidious himself did not unlock his potential until AFTER learning from Plageuis the Wise. Also, you can't say it's because Ben never learned to control his power because Rey damn sure had no formal training and still was using the force and high level abilities like the mind read ability. Ben should have had the same ridiculous abilities paired with his actual formal training and stomped Rey all the way until the final film, that is how real stories work, but nah, Kathleen Kennedy could not stomach letting a male heavy (Lead antagonist) beat her girl power icon so it was written that Rey was unstoppable from the beginning. I do not understand how anyone could watch these three films in a row and not see how awfully written these characters are, Rey is the biggest piece of plot armor, mary sue, boringly OP hero you can make. She wins from the start, kicking ass, having abilities for no reason other than "bloodline". Luke failed , got his hand chopped off, was refused training at first but still trained under Obi Wan AND Yoda himself, and it was not until after that he was able to be strong, and even then he relied on Vaders strength to kill off the emperor or at least defeat him for the time being.

[@skullofrebellion6653]

Kylo was stronger than Rey this film. During their duel and the first one to get up once Palpatine absorbed their life force

[@craigfin3222]

Han Solo "Thats not how the Force works" JJ Abrams "It works what ever way I want it to work, Force Suck activate"

[@LearningMexican]

Also JJ Abrams " I'm going to introduce force healing and Force BJ ;)"

[@johntempleton3560]

sadly its fucking true. he makes up force powers the way people use chest codes in video games to get around difficult sections. except he was "paid" to be better than just make shit up and fuck up canon and lore

[@markanderson4689]

force succ

[@adronikos7822]

Some of these powers are from Knights of the old republic. Force healing and drain life are some of the powers in the game and if you haven’t played it’s worth looking into.

[@johntempleton3560]

@@adronikos7822 ive heard awesome reviews about that game. however, JJ Abrams can not presume every viewer of this movie is well endowed with star wars expanded universe/gaming etc to know what are the origins of force powers cinematically used. he has to stay consistent to the cincematic canon

[@KHfan0011]

Here's the timeline: Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Clone Wars, Revenge of the Sith, Rogue One, A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, and finally, the Mandalorian. Yup that's all of it. Mhm.

[@The8bitdin0]

@Asios I think Solo happened at around the same time the Rebels tv show did

[@megamovieman101]

I just follow the old EU.

[@fitnessfrank83]

@Asios lol

[@sabinakihay8915]

What about Andor?

[@KHfan0011]

@@sabinakihay8915 yes! Thank you. Forgot about that.

[@amysteriousviewer3772]

I was less excited for the movie than I was for the amount of KZbin content it would provide.

[@Dogboon-]

It's the most entertaining part of modern TV/ film. What would it be called, the KZbin dunking on films and shows?

[@stewardo]

Only reason I saw the movie 😂

[@lacolem1]

Same here, and the best part is that it's free

[@lowserver2]

Waiting for RLM

[@bubblegumdukem9758]

Another 10 hours of Mauler

[@DrSpaceCapeTV]

The most that Rey gets injured in this movie is when she gets a hand cramp while fighting Kylo on the Death Star wreckage.

[@d3gr4p6]

Jeffrey Hudson Becker she literally died for a minute

[@DrSpaceCapeTV]

@@d3gr4p6 and yet she lived.

[@wldnrkls]

Did you forget the part when she fuckin died

[@KhanMann66]

@@wldnrkls Did YOU forget that she came back making her death scene pointless?

[@DannyNoLove17]

@@wldnrkls She died but not because of taking damage, it would have been more significant if she actually died and Kylo was the one that lived

[@luvstagrind]

I don't think kylo tried to run Rey down as a test, it was just a pointless scene meant to show something exciting. There was NO REASON to "test" her

[@firstlast6437]

My fat balls are pretty sweaty and ya know what? They've begun to develop quite the odor.

[@joshhudson2484]

It was a test, otherwise he would've just shot her while flying towards her.

[@k-la-k6828]

Doesnt Matter You just made me change my point of view about the entire movie. What profound analysis have you given us sir.

[@firstlast6437]

@@k-la-k6828 My balls stink help me please

[@brentphillips9965]

It was Disney trying to make Star Wars an anime.

[@WorldofWarcraftfan02]

How can Rey swim if she grew up on a dessert planet.

[@RossTheNinja]

Or sail a boat through a stormy sea

[@sirpepeofhousekek6741]

Stop asking perfectly logical and reasonable questions.

[@RossTheNinja]

@kshamwhizzle only if she was born on a sundae

[@sleepykitty8918]

This thread made me giggle. It might be the most fun in this comment section :)

[@happyjam92]

Rey: I am Rey Skywalker Me: the last two and a half hours just showed that you are not!!

[@jedimastertitaniumdickmana2939]

LOL what a joke of a movie

[@ResidentReveler]

It's 2019. She IDENTIFIES as a Skywalker.

[@michaelt8673]

Yes

[@moyluna1589]

@@ResidentReveler Man, After Luke and Lei's kiss you'd really think they'd learn not to make family TOO close.

[@raphaelperry8159]

So apparently Star Wars thinks that identity theft is okay if Batwoman does it? Not much of an excuse really.

[@iallen4]

Star Wars Rise of Skywalker runtime: 2h22m Everything Wrong With Rise of Skywalker runtime: 2h28m Oh Boy

[@forkittens]

it's rlm all over agian

[@asantiago2039]

@@forkittens rlm?

[@danielortiz388]

Ernesto Ascencio Rlm

[@Blz8]

@@asantiago2039 red letter media

[@buzzfunk]

Glad this is over. Disney had no plan. To me these movies aren't canon.

[@nolandavis1129]

Well they are so get over it.

[@italianodblaugrana3842]

@@nolandavis1129 well they're not so deal with it

[@andersalstrup3077]

@@italianodblaugrana3842 whether you like it or not, these are canon and will all be included in the upcoming lego star wars game. I understand they tried to undo the last jedi so even if you remove that 2 of 3 are recognized in the story.

[@FEV369]

@@nolandavis1129 IF the majority of people reject their rules, its not... get over it . People that liked the new star wars will forget about it in just a few months, real fans of star wars will always hate it.

[@bryant7542]

Thank God they're done. They can't hurt you anymore 😌

[@thiagosalvifreire]

"Force lightining is like peeing, once you start you cannot stop" Other Joe, 2020

[@EyeDyeGrys]

The video is from 2019...

[@NeoCreo1]

I still can’t get over the fact that all those leaks were SUPER accurate.

[@soren6690]

Suspicious isn’t it?

[@AmonsRealm]

NeoCreo I saw the final scene of the movie calling Rey a Skywalker herself I thought that was so fake lol

[@jaysway9251]

NeoCreo or the fact that Burger King in Germany spoiled the whole movie in an ad

[@MaximusTheChosenOne]

Jay Sway they didn’t

[@bobhotpocket1875]

@@jaysway9251 how???

[@bigorange2082]

There’s no tension in this trilogy at all. I never felt that anyone was ever in danger. You knew Rey was invincible.

[@oscaralvarez247]

Neither was Luke, leia nor han in the OG trilogy

[@S3aCa1mRa1n]

Oscar Alvarez What ? Darth Vader was menacing Han was abducted by boba wtf you on

[@oscaralvarez247]

@@S3aCa1mRa1n did you really believe han was forever gonna be stuck in Carbonite? Cmon...

[@MaxM227]

Oscar Alvarez They put Han in carbonite because Harrison Ford expressed interest in leaving and wanting to be done with SW even back then so that was their fail safe. It was entirely possible for him to never return

[@jacobschellen4076]

@@oscaralvarez247 Luke in Return was strong, but not OP. He still needed others, and he still failed. Such as when he fell into the Rancor Pit and when Vader saved him. Rey i never thought she didn't have the situation handled.

[@nicholashernandez4611]

Just gonna throw this in... If you remember anything about the Luke or Anakin trilogies, please recognize how GROWTH was a key factor in those movies. This is directly and obviously tied to their outfits, their actions, and their understandings of how the galaxy operates. They start off in white clothes, which get darker as the stories progress. Even Luke is clad, head to neck, in black by the end. Look at Rey. She’s still wearing her same mostly white outfit from the first scene we saw her. If you can ignore the smell, what does that say about her as a hero? That’s right - she’s still as innocent as when she was on that desert planet waiting for her parents. Everything she learned, everything she’s done, all the innocence-crushing experiences and trauma, and she never changed. Short of the marketing idiocy (which Rey is that? Every Rey in every movie!), no hero is worth watching if they don’t grow. At least the trilogy is over. I hope they bury it in the sands next to Anakin’s lightsaber and all those decomposing cassettes of Atari’s ET.

[@StudioKudos]

i lost it at the Cassettes of Atari's ET ahahahahaha

[@mani-sp9dn]

coz we all know Rey is all about that white supremacy.....yes this is a joke no triggers pls

[@nicholashernandez4611]

Just realized that Luke was clad neck to toes in black, not head to neck.

[@darkwarriors...]

The worst part was that rey knew everything about the force in a week (the last jedi and force awakens happened in a week). Whilst Anaken (i dont know the spelling) and Luke trained over years.

[@Alrucards]

When I saw the trailer and then watched Rise of Skywalker I seen Rey like did the director do a reverse of the character. I’ll give that Last Jedi had Rey maturing as it shows in her outward appearance but RoS undid that. From the leaked scripts and artwork I believe Colin Trevorrow vision for episode 9 was far better as progression goes but still needed tweaking.

[@haraldisdead]

"I'll buy a baboo freak, but I ain't buying no dio!" 😆

[@abc4781]

Honestly I think that Rey's ending scene should have been Klyo's.

[@CBRN-115]

No, he's an edgy teen. He doesn't deserve that too

[@kesse6035]

When Rey died we we're all happy. Should've stayed that way lol

[@arturoherbert8786]

Yeeesss thank you!!!

[@dayburks]

@@CBRN-115 he was still a Skywalker, rey wasn't

[@Snowpanel]

Wow, you are so right. If you replace Rey with Ben in the final scene, it makes so much more sense.

[@Jame5p420]

I still don’t understand why we didn’t get an explanation of who snoke is, he’s a clone, okay? Of who? Who was the original snoke, why use that specific person and where did snoke get those scars?

[@ABAlphaBeta]

Are you desirous to be granted the knowledge of from whence I obtained these cicatrisations?

[@DarkCode]

Snoke was Palpatines bitch but Palpatine is really Plagueis, Palpatine died when Plagueis was struck down by palpatine and his soul took over his body

[@Sum1BetrThanU1]

Why do the clones have the scars!?

[@Sum1BetrThanU1]

Was snoke the one palp impregnated and that’s how Rey was born?

[@kaltrex9465]

Should be the black bishop, they need to do better for the blue ray directors cut

[@hristokenarov]

Vader spent his entire life in the suit trying to heal his damaged lungs through the force and meditation...and he failed. But Rey though..."pff hold my beer..."

[@caffineandshiny]

Well Vader did that in the EU. Not canon. In the EU, force healing was a light side only power. Thats why Vader failed but several Jedi even in the Clone Wars could do it, like Shaak Ti and Barriss (although they didn't bring people back to life). The darkside had an equivalent, kind of, but it didn't really heal you so much as allow you to endure. Like Darth Sion, or the fact Vader COULD survive without his suit for a while (in the EU). Still stupidly executed in the movie though.

[@SuperFang1]

@@caffineandshiny No in the EU Cade Skywalker had force healing powers and it was a dark side ability.

[@caffineandshiny]

@@SuperFang1 That wasn't categorized under normal force healing, just like Darth Sion's abilities weren't. Cade's ability was called Dark Transfer. It is different from healing, just like Sidious' dominating powers are categorized as different from Battle Meditation: they don't function the same way.

[@SuperFang1]

@@caffineandshiny Maybe its different but the end result is the same or even better, your loved one is saved from death. Thats what Anakin wanted, a power to save the ones he loved from dying. It can literally stop someone from dying, I think Cade even brings someone back from the dead. Even better than just healing, its also a dark side ability.

[@caffineandshiny]

@@SuperFang1 yes, but what Vader was trying to do to heal his lungs was force healing. That is why he failed where a lightside user (such as Rey) can succeed, which is what I was addressing. Doesn't mean I agree with Rey just pulling it out of no where, especially when if they had stuck to the EU a bit more they could've explained it as Luke having taught it to her. But it doesn't break the lore to have Rey (or Luke, or Leia, or any lightside user) succeed where Vader failed, in this one (very specific and isolated) instance. All the other times...don't make the same sort of sense.

[@Lefty1AYT]

2:03:18 "strike me down from right to left" so fucking good omg i'm dead

[@indi8177]

Kylo Ren started off in everyone's book as a whiny vader wannabe, And became one of the only good factors in these movies. Adam Driver is so fuckin talented.

[@TheZod00]

Kylo Ren was really good in this. He was surprisingly intimidating. If only he was like this throughout the first 2 movies.

[@2UNIEK]

"Talented" more like 'the least worst'.

[@YourBlackLocal]

2UNIEK Adam Driver is incredibly talented as an actor watch his other work

[@2UNIEK]

@@YourBlackLocal Sorry, I focus too much on his ears that just won't quit to notice any of that.

[@shanecoyle8053]

I disagree, they ruined his arc for me. It definitely seemed like he was in many ways the anti-Vader before this. He was never humbled and grievously injured like Vader was on Mustafar, which allowed him to keep his potential but also made him rash, emotionally wild, and prone to mistakes. Unlike Vader, Kylo continuously felt conflicted about what he was doing, while Vader’s persona basically killed Anakin until Luke was able to metaphorically resurrect him. Despite this, Kylo twice denied redemption from those he was closest to, he murdered his father when he could have gone with him and he denied Rey’s offer to become Ben Solo again in The Last Jedi. This is probably Kylo’s worst outing for me, especially with that pathetic death.

[@TheNegronomicon]

Joe: We're going to spend the first part talking about what we liked. "Thirteen minutes later" Joe: Okay now let's get to what we didn't like. "Over two hours left" Damn.

[@nickm.9726]

Shit.

[@stormcommander6387]

Still gives it a 5/10, just because a movie is flashy & the cgi was on point. Does not make it a good film! I recommend watching Shadiversity if you really want to go in the insanity of it.

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture8817]

@@stormcommander6387 You clearly don't understand the proper critic perspective, the story isn't the only thing that dictates the final verdict, soundtrack, acting, cinematography, budget and screenplay also have major effects on a movies scoring. I'm not gonna debate whether any of those things hold this movie up or down but I'm just pointing out that those things do in fact matter.

[@tearaxe]

I'm gonna tell my kids The Mandalorian was the sequel.

[@vladimirlestrad3120]

You’re a good parent.

[@cameradanblack]

It is better than all the numbered movies so far....more like A New Hope than anything I've seen yet.

[@imanrich800gaming]

The Disrespect 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂

[@gabrielbernal5599]

@Stormtrooper 094 thrawn is dope too

[@avidplanes]

So instead of a girl Mary Sue you can have a baby Mary Sue who also was never trained in the Force yet knows how to do it perfectly.

[@arroe8386]

It's baffling how you can spend over 4 billions on something, throw an already finished script by the creator for a new trilogy in the trash and then have absolutely no plan how this universe works and what your characters are

[@concon2434]

Disney: Includes “Diversity” claims social justice Also Disney: Cuts out the pandering lesbian scene and makes Fin smaller on the poster in China to make money

[@AnHonestDoubter]

Brave.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

There's no morals in these massified entertainment businesses. It's like when EA went all political correct with Battlefield, remember that shit? Trying to take the higher moral ground... Fucking EA, lol

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

@@apachehelicopter9032 that too, I was not pretending to dive into this subject, but history revisionism is something far more egregious than political correctness. They wanted to justify female characters in the multi-player, because of some twisted concepts of inclusion (in fact, they want to expand the audience). And it's crazy to remember some people defending the changes, "it's just a game", etc.. Hell, any kind of product who uses historical events as a selling gimmick, the minimum expected is some level of respect. My interest about the war sparked when I was kid playing company of heroes, imagine kids who started with that battlefield, wondering if females were really there?

[@OurFantasyLife]

Honestly I think the reason they backed off of Finn being fully Force-sensitive is literally because of China.

[@Jubzilla]

@lilmayo Yeah i't had nothing to do with TLJ being an even more garbage film and Rose being a garbage character.

[@jackobyuk]

Jesus, Space Balls had more respect for Star Wars than Disney has. And JJ makes Michael Bay look like Steven Spielberg

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

If anyone is to paid the price it should be JJ, Ryan, and Kennedy not the actor and other people who are the victims

[@marcosnery9884]

Best comment right here.

[@Vahig7]

I’m just commenting in hopes Joe Will this comment Ray is a Skywalker technically because Aniken was created by The emperor and the emperor is literally Aniken‘s father in a sense so she really is a Skywalker because Skywalker came from Palpatine! Not to mention the end of the movie where Kylo basically sacrifices himself for her giving his life force/the sky walker name/Legacy

[@gums79]

So true.

[@aliv6321]

I feel like it had to be Kathleen Kenedy's writing team that fucked up starwars, yeah Abraham's directed it and put it all together, but it was the overall writing that made it an incohesive mess. First you had TFA and as a fan I found it disappointing and the story hung by a thread. I get what they were trying to do with the call back and I appreciated it, but even for star wars it killed the suspension of disbelief. TLJ was the writers giving the director reign and the director wanting to do his own thing but had to awkwardly shoe horn his own ideas into a franchise and storyline that were too big for him. After a few rewatches it's a good movie and could have decent standalone if it were not using these established characters for a mainline trilogy. The story threads spread through a season of a season with new characters and similar events would have fit right in with something like Rebels. I think they should have gone with their original choice. JJ was too passionate about telling his story but didn't have the space, and the writers didn't have a plan to accomodate that. Allowing it to go in the wrong direction to begin with TLJ. At least the everything else starwars has been pretty good(save for solo imo).

[@KizaruB]

So everything that happened in Last Jedi didn’t matter. Nothing of integral importance happened in that movie, except that Rey found the Jedi texts and Kylo became Supreme Leader. Luke’s death doesn’t count because he could’ve lived and the story would barely change.

[@fleeplayTV]

Pretty much, I mean even if jj took the last jedi more into consideration that's literally all that happened in that movie, just goes to show how shitty it was.

[@michaelford8017]

• Leia reveals she has force abilities, hinting she trained. • Leia gives Po a lesson on following orders. • Ackbar dies. • Luke dies. • Phasma dies. • Snoke dies.

[@elchewbacco]

Nothing happens in the entire trillogy

[@friedpickles3941]

@@fleeplayTV you say "that's all" it did implying that it isn't plot development. You may disagree story wise but it pushed the story forward. J.J could have taken that and expanded upon it but chose to retcon it because fanservice. Kylo finally was in control after TLJ got rid of that stupid ass emperor knock off J.J created.

[@robertconover7178]

@@michaelford8017 "Snoke dies" well, it was just a palpatine clone and theres many more, and the deaths were all pointless so that doesn't count lmao, thats not storytelling or any significance.

[@myst_desendant8876]

Shmi: I’m Gonna Die Anakin: Let Me Force heal you

[@MrDraxz]

Forgot to mention not only did Leia do Jedi training but... She beats luke and decided this wasn't her path...

[@dragonwing1982]

That makes the whole training the Mary sue even worse.

[@nichoudha]

She didn't beat Luke, she beat Luke's test.

[@everybodylieshm]

@@elnoobster5473 She had a vision that Ben would turn to the Dark Side and decides to quit being a Jedi herself because of it but send him to Luke anyway WITHOUT her or Han and somehow thinks that was the better option. Wow Leia.. that makes so much sense.

[@guzman418]

Because she’s a strong wahmon

[@hmvd22]

I’m still waiting for the thing Finn needed to say, but the movie ended and he never said shit

[@king-titus]

Apparently JJ Abrams had to answer that in an interview after the release. He said that Finn just wanted to tell her he was force sensitive. That is just extremely stupid because why would he be scared to tell her that, or in front of Poe? It looks more to me like he forgot and had to fix his own movie on its release weekend.

[@WesternXC]

Ty Johnson Seriously? That’s why? I thought he wanted to tell her that he loved her, that makes more sense.

[@videitos09]

"i want dat ass" i mean it was pretty much written in his face, but they gave him a black chick so he would be ok stick to your kind right??? XD i was WTF at the theater are you guys actually introducing a female ex storm trooper of a convenient race for him to bond this late into the franchise??

[@NewOrderOfAlexandria]

I think there's even a scene hinting at where they reference there is a secret Skywalker when Palpatine is talking to Kylo over hologram. They kept that one line in from the George Lucas Cut but didn't do anything with it.

[@midashaltzern]

Chicka Dee TLJ is worse because it's the reason for this mess. If Disney/TLJ stuck with Abrams story so many things would have already been worked out.

[@Thee_Deputy]

Good example of a "force link" is Revan and Bastila. Not whatever weird shit this was.

[@somethingboss]

Ahhhh Darth Revan. KOTOR has my fave story.

[@michaelford8017]

KOTOR is the best SW IMO. Still, I love how they use Force Link in these movies.

[@OtterInsanity]

Traya and the Exile also have an interesting Froce Link.

[@LoganFerguson]

Another good example? The better and more understandable force link between TWINS Jacen and Jaina Solo, who are the original characters that JJ copied with Rey and Ben.

[@thoomolong]

Is KOTOR only told in videogames or books? What's the best way to get that story?

[@chanceneck8072]

My official ranking: #1 Empire Strikes Back #2 Return of the Jedi #3 A New Hope #4 Revenge of the Sith #5 Phantom Menace #6 The Force Awakens #7 Attack of the Clones #8 The Last Jedi #9 The Rise of Skywalker

[@patriot459]

I’m a simple man. All I wanted was a lightsaber fight to duel of the fates in the background. And they couldn’t even do that. 1 out of 10

[@MrRomanticGameGuy]

Try out The Old Republic Cinematics for Light Saber

[@jacobisaacs600]

Try out making a good movie

[@inkchild4115]

Lightsaber duel wasnt even good and for the first part of the fight there was no music

[@adoeseverything9834]

Star Wars: the sequel trilogy is the epic journey of one woman quest to avoid going to see her grandparents

[@Deuce972]

Keep in mind that KK said there was no source material when Lucas OFFERED to help with the script and screenplay.

[@cloudmediasports]

TypicalKHKfanboy Lucas had ideas, his ideas included Rey, Finn, Exiled Luke and Kylo type villain, they didn’t want to use Midichloreans

[@Waffledude330]

Disney ceo came out and said when they bought lucasfilm and starwars, they also bought George Lucas' story. They chose to ignore it... It was an actual decision that Disney made saying they were going to write their own story.

[@nt78stonewobble]

@@cloudmediasports Midichlorians are pretty stupid, but they don't really change anything. Before: "some have force ability cuz ???" after "some have force ability cuz midichlorians".

[@evanbao93]

@@cloudmediasports They sure did use the implications of midiclorians by having Rey be Palpatine's granddaughter.

[@ForeverLaxx]

@@Waffledude330 Just like every IP that Disney gets their hands on, they want to scrub out everything that came before it and "do their own thing" because they want 100% creative control. This trilogy was created just to scrub away previous characters and lore to make way for one-shot stories that will be creatively bankrupt. Welcome to New Disney.

[@themissingpeace7956]

What if Palpatine actually took Rey’s body after he died and at the ending you see Rey with sith eyes. It would’ve been a better ending than what we got.

[@DrViperVideos]

The knights of ren were so dissapointing. They could’ve been an elite team of force users, each with their own weapon and personality. Maybe they were loyal to kylo, but hes failing as a leader so they double cross him. These were students of luke skywalker, who followed ben to evil, theres interesting stuff there to explore. Instead they say nothing. Basically do nothing. Wtf was the point?!

[@elly_xia]

DrViperVideos this was a fault that were made in TLJ tho.. they didn’t appear in the movie... or did they? I can’t remember, haven’t seen that movie since the first time i watched it lol, cause it made me feel weird watching it.. but since they didn’t get any screen time from the previous movie, they aren’t explored all that well, and you just get this shallow ass team of knights

[@aaroncullen1803]

They had the opportunity to explain how the Knights of Ren were cutting off all the other Rebel cells from reinforcing the battle in TLJ. Give them some bite to their growl.. instead they were as well equipped as a peasant revolt in the medieval era. Absolutely no point in being included in the story. The elite guards of Snoke posed a much bigger threat and were much more entertaining to watch.

[@MattAlbie]

@@elly_xia The guards in the Snoke scene with that sweet armor and those cool electric whips and stuff were 1000 times cooler and more interesting than literally anything JJ did with the Knights of Ren. I've had to listen to two years of "Rian ruined the Knights of Ren!!!" by not using them. Well. They were used here and JJ did NOTHING with them. So I don't want to hear that shit anymore, JJ had his chance. In TWO movies now.

[@MattAlbie]

@@aaroncullen1803 EXACTLY! The thing that drives me so nuts is for all the (sometimes justified) hate TLJ gets, Rian Johnson used JJ's shitty lame Emperor clone BETTER than JJ used the ACTUAL LITERAL EMPEROR, and Snokes guards were better used and more interesting than the Knights of Ren ended up being!!

[@AshKetchup123]

I don't think knights of ren were luke's students, they were a separate thing

[@LagunaX1]

A bold move would have been leaning into Rey's dark side and having her actually accidentally kill Chewbacca. Have more bad shit happen to her and by the time she reaches Palpatine her anger and hate would have built enough for her to take the final step and 'stike him down'. By striking him down, Palapatine is able to possess her body and is finally young again. The climax of the film is an awesome light saber dual between the fallen Rey Palpatine and the redeemed Ben Solo. Ben is overpowered and calls on his family to help him. Anakin, Luke and Leia show up as force ghosts. After seeing them Rey is able to momentarily get control back and kills herself by unleashing enough force lighting to complete obliterate the Star Destroyers.

[@VisceralHamster]

LagunaX1 fuuuuuck yes.👍

[@reygonzalez4719]

That will require actual thought and planning to be put into this Trilogy something they did not do. but good thinking though I like it.

[@dreamingflurry2729]

Not a bad start - but frankly: No force-user should (without external amplifiers like a Sith-Meditation-Sphere-Ship) be able to destroy a fleet of capital-ships with the force!

[@ricardorivera5854]

I thought it was just dumb how Palpatine told Rey that his life force would take over her body if she kills him. Why didn’t he keep his mouth shut and just let her kill him?? Why tell her?? Of course she’s gonna hold back and resist killing him. Ugh!

[@NitpickingNerd]

@@ricardorivera5854 same reason he warned the whole galaxy that he is back before even launching his fleet first. Allowing the galaxy to preemptively strike his fleet before its ready

[@cindychung7002]

Leia calls Kylo during the fight because she’s a mom. Moms always call at the most inopportune times

[@danielz-v4083]

Cindy Chung Honestly I’m surprised she did force ghost her way into the film when Kylo was getting laid

[@JP-hk6xw]

Too true. I was watching ROTS in the countdown to this movie and my mom walked into the room as Anakin killed the kids

[@alexlowe4442]

1:53:26 the greatest moment in history when joe realized that’s not PG-13