Madden 24 - Angry Review

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9 ай бұрын

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@NSXtacy-
@NSXtacy- 9 ай бұрын
If EA ever cancelled the Madden franchise the worst thing about that would be no more Angry Joe Madden reviews. These are legendary.
@BBCforyoHoe
@BBCforyoHoe 9 ай бұрын
If ever 😂😂. That’s funny
@Timbo6669
@Timbo6669 9 ай бұрын
He might be the single reason people are still buying this game. Imagine it?
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 9 ай бұрын
I agree these reviews are super funny 😆
@DerangedCoconut808
@DerangedCoconut808 9 ай бұрын
dont worry EA's got more in the chamber. EAs gots other properties to continue to run to the ground dont you worry.
@Antronix3
@Antronix3 9 ай бұрын
Somebody needs to convince the NFL to let other companies make NFL football like with star wars.
@zachmali4071
@zachmali4071 9 ай бұрын
This guy puts more effort into these reviews than EA does into Madden.
@frankieb9444
@frankieb9444 9 ай бұрын
I would be fine if one year he just re-released the previous year's Madden Review and just dubbed over each time they say the year or Madden number then truly he would have done the same amount of work on the review as they did the game.
@shawklan27
@shawklan27 9 ай бұрын
Legit bro
@aragingbear6466
@aragingbear6466 9 ай бұрын
Nah, Joe is getting as lazy with these reviews as Corporate Commander.
@janneaalto3956
@janneaalto3956 9 ай бұрын
Let's cut the hyperbole. What EA puts into Madden isn't even in the same dictionary as 'effort'
@Boomslayer19
@Boomslayer19 9 ай бұрын
Also the non existing bug testing redfall had less bugs That's saying something
@ryanr3951
@ryanr3951 9 ай бұрын
To be fair the refs not knowing how to ref football is the most accurate and true-to-life feature EA has added in years
@thepubknight6144
@thepubknight6144 9 ай бұрын
"Well getting 2 things right is better than one "-Clint Oldenburg
@mollyanderson657
@mollyanderson657 8 ай бұрын
Considering the refs themselves don't know what a first down is either.
@Valkbg
@Valkbg 7 ай бұрын
@@mollyanderson657 WTF? How?
@zangieforozimbo5785
@zangieforozimbo5785 7 ай бұрын
Broken clock theory
@TMeek94
@TMeek94 6 ай бұрын
And the games being rigged
@dunamis3535
@dunamis3535 8 ай бұрын
As a former QA (game tester) for a AAA gaming company, I can tell you that we do tell the devs what’s going on, the director/ execs are the main issue, their laziness/ lack of care gets old. You can tell them the same bugs, and see the same things on the next patch that they bring in to test.
@TheHailstorm77
@TheHailstorm77 6 ай бұрын
Because all they care about is stock and impressing the investors. It sickens me that quality is very absent. Same with glitchy Elders Scroll or Fallout. Unfinished game that has so many problems.
@UIW-qm2sr
@UIW-qm2sr 5 ай бұрын
I was about to come comment the same thing, worked on some AAA FPS games, and I had the exact same thought at 2:45
@nicholasjoyner6266
@nicholasjoyner6266 4 ай бұрын
The only thing that will make things change is if people stop buying EA’s garbage. Until that happens it will stay the same so long as they have paying happy customers
@deeno4919
@deeno4919 2 ай бұрын
I said it’s the same trash game every year 10 years ago
@Vicvines
@Vicvines 9 ай бұрын
The Sapien technology got to me. They say it's based on a real skeleton. As opposed to Madden 23 when they were based on, what? Octopus tentacles? What skeletons have they been using this whole time?
@jameskim1505
@jameskim1505 9 ай бұрын
One that you can get from CCP officials in back alleys of Shanghai
@__Konboi__
@__Konboi__ 9 ай бұрын
Those dancing skeletons you see in memes nowadays
@MegaLPlover
@MegaLPlover 9 ай бұрын
They said they improved it, it's not something new
@ewjiml
@ewjiml 9 ай бұрын
Isn’t it obvious? EA has been using dead bodies for no-cap this whole time to save money…..DUH!!!!
@pricewm3
@pricewm3 9 ай бұрын
More like homo sapient technology
@jacobscarberry4799
@jacobscarberry4799 9 ай бұрын
Madden is a true example of what happens when there's no competition.
@Grandtheftauto1998
@Grandtheftauto1998 9 ай бұрын
So true, that thought has been on my mind for years now.
@TheAustinKendall
@TheAustinKendall 9 ай бұрын
Yep, having a base who loves the NFL and willing to buy the product (even if they think it could be better) year after year, combined with a core who will spend hundreds and up to thousands a year on MUT, means that EA will give bare minimum effort in order to maximize profits. I got into NFL around 2015, bought Madden 2016 and haven't bought one since (I have played a little on gamepass over the years). It really fucking sucks because, NFL could have an amazing game with this much money to work with and we get this sad excuse for american football "simulation".
@jwatson181
@jwatson181 9 ай бұрын
Government.... why do yall vote for democrats?
@MidniteSociety88
@MidniteSociety88 9 ай бұрын
So is NBA 2K
@dubcap7443
@dubcap7443 9 ай бұрын
U also gotta remember madden bought rights to nfl in 2005 which ended their only competition that is the best football game in history nfl2k5, them doing that they are the only game that can have nfl players and teams in the game, for 18 years they’ve held these rights🤦🏾‍♂️ I guarantee there’s someone out there who can make a football game 20 times better than what madden has put out in the last 12 years
@murphdaddy7575
@murphdaddy7575 9 ай бұрын
Honestly, poor calling from the refs is actually part of the true NFL experience, so they got that one right
@kenosabi
@kenosabi 5 ай бұрын
This has been the worst season for that sht that I've seen in my life.
@LaPrincesa.DelHielo
@LaPrincesa.DelHielo 5 ай бұрын
I know and the way that team played it was just so average and the score was just so much too there was so many points
@scottonfire543
@scottonfire543 8 ай бұрын
46:03 it still makes me laugh that they literally stole Captain Anderson from Mass Effect to play football in Madden XD.
@ivvy7325
@ivvy7325 8 ай бұрын
It's a true
@nub-qq3nh
@nub-qq3nh 4 ай бұрын
Man holy SHIT! It is so unbelievably similar 😂
@jacobwhelan45
@jacobwhelan45 2 ай бұрын
I saw that and started crying lmao
@A.R.T.4
@A.R.T.4 9 ай бұрын
These Madden reviews need to be recognized as a federal holiday
@Agon1stt
@Agon1stt 9 ай бұрын
PREACH IT!!
@SniperRed0092
@SniperRed0092 9 ай бұрын
Lol
@Pikachu_Snivy_57
@Pikachu_Snivy_57 9 ай бұрын
Agreed
@vidarCRC
@vidarCRC 9 ай бұрын
I don't even care about Madden and I watch these reviews every year.
@ChaseMC215
@ChaseMC215 9 ай бұрын
Hallelujah!
@Sen9393
@Sen9393 9 ай бұрын
I have to say I'm jealous of EA. I wish I could own a business where my customers would be this dumb.
@soapbox435
@soapbox435 9 ай бұрын
same
@watchmesquatch
@watchmesquatch 9 ай бұрын
​@@bbbasedYou're delusional if you think any news station is going to tell you the whole truth, not just CNN.
@Tacom4ster
@Tacom4ster 9 ай бұрын
​@@watchmesquatchthat's why I watch Vaush, and guy is a genius, and humilates fascists
@jgreedy4138
@jgreedy4138 9 ай бұрын
When there’s no other options what else can you do
@Joshua0707
@Joshua0707 9 ай бұрын
​@@bbbasedTry Fox
@metaljay77
@metaljay77 9 ай бұрын
Hearing the announcer say "that gave me chills" made me unreasonably angry. I quit Madden years ago and that is still etched in my brain because I've heard it so many times. Somebody needs to put this game out of our misery.
@Verdestar
@Verdestar 7 ай бұрын
17:58 the way joe said "E" was so funny we gotta hear him shouting the "EA sports its in the game" intro
@BigScheer
@BigScheer 9 ай бұрын
"They deserve each other" is such a perfect description of the relationship between sports gamers and sport games. Well said.
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo 9 ай бұрын
Imagine simping for EA
@rythegoat784
@rythegoat784 9 ай бұрын
not MMA games there really is not a lot of price gouging Although the gameplay does suffer from year to year, it also gets better in some aspects
@hands-ongaming7180
@hands-ongaming7180 6 ай бұрын
@@rythegoat784give it time they will
@ShinyHubCaps
@ShinyHubCaps 5 ай бұрын
Not all sports gamers or sports games. Some make genuine improvements and contributions to the greater art.
@itsyaboifurquiqui9030
@itsyaboifurquiqui9030 9 ай бұрын
OJ saying “Good Deal” to the 25 dollar skin while Joe is raging is the definition of friendship 😂. Great review Joe, OJ, and Alex!
@davidnaef1
@davidnaef1 9 ай бұрын
ITS ONLY 22.49! It is cheap!
@shanky.y
@shanky.y 9 ай бұрын
what the time stemp ? i wanna see 😂
@FuruKombo
@FuruKombo 9 ай бұрын
@@shanky.y 24:59
@shanky.y
@shanky.y 9 ай бұрын
@@FuruKombo Thanks
@DescendingBlade
@DescendingBlade 9 ай бұрын
They have skins in a sports game? I haven’t played Madden since madden 2010 and I probably will never play it again. That’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard.
@uncannyx
@uncannyx 9 ай бұрын
MMG is 100% exactly what's wrong with the Madden community.
@w12266
@w12266 8 ай бұрын
Is there a madden community? What the hell
@SoErect
@SoErect 8 ай бұрын
Yoboy pizza boy?
@heinrick383
@heinrick383 8 ай бұрын
What’s wrong with MMG LOL?
@glaiydan
@glaiydan 8 ай бұрын
@@heinrick383 he whole heartedly accepts and embraces EA FUCKING him HARD in the ASS, EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR. And puts up with it. And shows off spending money and letting EA have access to his RAW ASS, constantly.
@falco00_
@falco00_ 8 ай бұрын
​@@heinrick383that fact he never gives hate to the game and glazes the game so much even though its trash.
@soarinskies1105
@soarinskies1105 8 ай бұрын
That “Fuck me EA” bit had me dying
@MrPrincepop
@MrPrincepop 9 ай бұрын
Thank you, Joe, OJ, Alex for doing this every year. You've been calling out this lackluster, cash-grab, lazy-ass, shell of it's former self game for years. Don't ever stop or schill for those greedy bastards.
@nehemiahpouncey3607
@nehemiahpouncey3607 9 ай бұрын
WOW didn't know Alex work for IGN?😂
@Riven0x
@Riven0x 9 ай бұрын
And you dumbasses will still buy it anyways lol, so what exactly is joe accomplishing?
@mercnem6855
@mercnem6855 9 ай бұрын
But yet people still buy this game......blame the dumbass consumers 🤷🤷🤷
@sirsonic1832
@sirsonic1832 9 ай бұрын
I think it’s pretty clear they would NEVER schill for this shit 😂
@Atari5732
@Atari5732 9 ай бұрын
It's interesting how the Game released with menus that took 3-5 seconds to respond. And then magically. a week later, after most people had used up their 10 hour demo, they patched it and it runs better than any Madden did before. (in terms of how fast you can move through the menus/ out of game). Still prefer NFL2K5 -
@michaelwood9559
@michaelwood9559 9 ай бұрын
IT’S A BEAUTIFUL DAY WHEN AN ANGRY JOE MADDEN REVIEW COMES OUT
@otavioo.8320
@otavioo.8320 9 ай бұрын
its a yearly event at this point 😂
@GenerallDRK
@GenerallDRK 9 ай бұрын
My favorite pass time 😂 Makes for great background sound
@gjamespepe
@gjamespepe 9 ай бұрын
A very Good Day !!!! 😂😂
@jeremiahsbeast5560
@jeremiahsbeast5560 9 ай бұрын
EA done fucked it up
@SuperFevy
@SuperFevy 9 ай бұрын
Best day of the year dude 😁
@badgerbane
@badgerbane 5 ай бұрын
I don't understand. How can they fail at making a simple game about a single sport so catastrophically? This could be a minigame in GTA or Yakuza, and it'd be more polished. As a single minigame. Instead, they focused all their efforts on it and made pure shite.
@Swordsman1425
@Swordsman1425 7 ай бұрын
If I had to guess why they bought the ESPN license even though they barely use it... it was to shut out the possibility of having *any* competition in the field of football games.
@battlion507
@battlion507 7 ай бұрын
Pretty much
@mooghoo2
@mooghoo2 9 ай бұрын
I love how AJ puts more effort in making his yearly videos of Madden than EA in their franchise…
@AzraelDarkness64Gaming
@AzraelDarkness64Gaming 9 ай бұрын
Good point
@BlackoutStarman
@BlackoutStarman 9 ай бұрын
Gotta commend Joe for still having anger left with this franchise. Tbf it somehow manages to get worse every time. It’s a skill at this point.
@RazielTheUnborn
@RazielTheUnborn 9 ай бұрын
A skill on who's part? Joe's or EA's? 😂
@seroforgas5261
@seroforgas5261 9 ай бұрын
@@RazielTheUnborn Both? Both is good.
@pinkeye459
@pinkeye459 9 ай бұрын
It makes money.
@deftestaphid2026
@deftestaphid2026 9 ай бұрын
Brainless people buy it.
@Wastingsometimehere
@Wastingsometimehere 9 ай бұрын
@@pinkeye459 Hope he doesn't spend that money on Bored Apes.
@64BeastyMan
@64BeastyMan 9 ай бұрын
10:20 😂 Joe being shocked into laughter by how aggressive the singing in this song is absolutely sends me.
@ChaseOakley-rw2lx
@ChaseOakley-rw2lx 2 ай бұрын
Same here xD thanks for the time stamp. Music in sports games is so bad. Or it will have just ONE song you like.
@oRnch199
@oRnch199 3 ай бұрын
I remember in either NHL '97 or '98 as a kid, the anouncers would attempt to pronounce your created characters name. Me and my friend would love laughing at the attempts. Sports games are literally leagues worse than the late 90's.
@glimpse5038
@glimpse5038 22 күн бұрын
Yeah now they say, "and he is in for the touchdown". Wow.
@MrSucc-fp7rt
@MrSucc-fp7rt 9 ай бұрын
I wait every year for this review. It NEVER disappoints, unlike EA and Madden NFL.
@rolltideroll8458
@rolltideroll8458 9 ай бұрын
Exactly, it's like Christmas morning lmao
@Rubycore
@Rubycore 9 ай бұрын
How can they disappoint when nobody expects anything from them anymore?
@hewhobattles8869
@hewhobattles8869 9 ай бұрын
The best part about Joe's Madden reviews is how he always finds new and dynamic ways to insult and degrade EA for all their bullshit. And every time he makes one, i feel like watching all or some of the other ones over again. It's like recapping all the previous episodes of your favorite show just to be fully caught up for the newest one
@Tlukewow1
@Tlukewow1 9 ай бұрын
Joe refreshes the review to a higher standard degree than Madden refreshes their franchise. That IGN clip about crisp animations was perfectly replayed for emphasis haha
@Nicholasmcmath-cr1xl
@Nicholasmcmath-cr1xl 9 ай бұрын
Same
@ricardohoang8452
@ricardohoang8452 9 ай бұрын
He and his team are more created than EA Madden team (well obvious facts overall)
@samuelmarquez3757
@samuelmarquez3757 9 ай бұрын
It’s simple. Stop buying EA games. Hit them where it hurts.
@ricardohoang8452
@ricardohoang8452 9 ай бұрын
@@samuelmarquez3757 Madden kids out there are probably deaf you know?
@krustykrabpizza4328
@krustykrabpizza4328 8 ай бұрын
Your review has like almost 5 times the views of most of the journalist reviews 😂 and like 5 times the quality. Keep up the good work and hopefully one day theyll fix this damn game
@allenparedes6132
@allenparedes6132 4 ай бұрын
I hope this game dies. Fuck EA
@c-puff
@c-puff 8 ай бұрын
The hardest part of these reviews is I genuinely think Joe needs to add text for which version of the game he is currently showing because I'm constantly confused whether the footage currently being shown is from the current game getting reviewed or last year's version.
@vladerag
@vladerag 7 ай бұрын
C-Puff!? I never thought I would see you here! Which, now that I think about it, is odd because you don't exactly hide that you are a gamer... I was just rewatching your Velma review too. Edit: And that same Velma video is in my recommended.
@gizmokodiak
@gizmokodiak 9 ай бұрын
I've never played a single Madden game. But I've watched every one of the Angry Joe reviews on them. So even though they seem to monumentally suck, they still allow these wonderful reviews to be made! You suffer for us Joe, and I appreciate that!
@AllPersonalNothingBusiness
@AllPersonalNothingBusiness 9 ай бұрын
As someone who grew up on it and had to walk away from it 7 years ago these videos make me sad but I'm glad they entertain others
@artimuos903
@artimuos903 9 ай бұрын
Same for me dude.
@vh8542
@vh8542 9 ай бұрын
Im not quite in the same boat, I played a demo Madden back in like 04, but have only bought like 4, maybe 5 Maddens since then. You aren't missing much. Sure fun can be had, but it gets old. I do not understand how people can buy it over and over again.
@bobby3eb
@bobby3eb 9 ай бұрын
There really was a streak for like 10 years where all they did was REMOVE features from the game. Also, the game is worse than it seems from these reviews, somehow
@DeadlockDrago
@DeadlockDrago 9 ай бұрын
At this point, I worry for the man's mental health.
@nicholasc6876
@nicholasc6876 9 ай бұрын
Much respect to your new strategy of going after the social media grifters rather than just EA itself. At some point if the company is shameless, you can maybe shame of the dorks behind the webcam.
@lanceupperrcut
@lanceupperrcut 9 ай бұрын
100% agree
@eastsidemoonwalker137
@eastsidemoonwalker137 9 ай бұрын
ALL facts. If anything going after the MUT players/Game content accounts they give special access too is the ONLY way of effecting Madden. They told us they ONLY care about them for the last 20 years.
@BritishEcho
@BritishEcho 9 ай бұрын
These creators aren't going to care. If EA came up to you and offered $$$ to shill their game to idiots who can't stop buying it... You ain't saying no...
@davidreese5730
@davidreese5730 9 ай бұрын
Believe it or not, some people can not be swayed by material things...
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo 9 ай бұрын
I hate those stupid virgins.
@nobuzzlitebeer7258
@nobuzzlitebeer7258 8 ай бұрын
I'm Aussie and wouldn't have the first clue about NFL but I look forward to the games annual release because Angry is so bloody entertaining.
@ethanlay7605
@ethanlay7605 8 ай бұрын
In all seriousness, I think EA would lose a class action lawsuit for false advertising.
@CarnageCathedral
@CarnageCathedral 9 ай бұрын
I'm not even into football or madden but angry joe's madden review is something I always look forward to 😂
@SCRIZZZY
@SCRIZZZY 9 ай бұрын
Same for me . Its so great every year. I almost have to thank madden for being so terrible at what they do
@zachbeckwith459
@zachbeckwith459 9 ай бұрын
Same, I stopped playing Madden many years ago but I love his Madden reviews haha
@brxxckz
@brxxckz 9 ай бұрын
Lmfao 🤣🤣🤣 Joe's Rants are the best tbh
@DeathsHead1
@DeathsHead1 9 ай бұрын
Same. I don’t play sports games, but I watch his Madden review!
@aimcrux2231
@aimcrux2231 9 ай бұрын
I get excited every yr exclusively for this video, don’t even play the game. EA Robbin you and aren’t even bein subtle about it
@MattSinz
@MattSinz 9 ай бұрын
The fact that Madden 08(Ps2) is 15 years old and is still by far the best game in the series just goes to show how little effort EA puts in.
@AR-jt2ux
@AR-jt2ux 9 ай бұрын
Madden 08 on ps2 maybe. Madden 06 on xbox and ps2 is the best game.
@DMVGREY
@DMVGREY 9 ай бұрын
Scott the woz reference
@atlien1988
@atlien1988 9 ай бұрын
Madden '08 is the best game in the series now? Swear we thought it was mid when it came out 🥴💀😭. This franchise been trash for so long that we can't even truly say when the last time they had a good game. Madden peaked in 2004.
@EonThaWolf
@EonThaWolf 9 ай бұрын
Madden 07 was truly the best. 😌
@Kafka707
@Kafka707 9 ай бұрын
For me it was Madden '04 with Michael Vick! It was so much fun to play with a QB with 99 SPD lol. 😂
@ComradePaolo
@ComradePaolo 7 ай бұрын
Such a breath of fresh air as a PC FIFA player. I went through this entire crisis with people hyping 23/FC24, the amount of disdain ea has for its own players is nuts. The crossplay thing ruined the game’s release cycle for us. We don’t even get together to play anymore. Bummer. Someone else desperately wants and deserves these licenses
@sytherwusky
@sytherwusky 3 ай бұрын
It’s really pathetic these games are so poor that the older titles have more player numbers than the newer ones
@cassidepowers7006
@cassidepowers7006 7 ай бұрын
I got my dad Madden 06 when it came out with my Christmas money. He played it for years. The franchise mode and superstar mode were good. I tried out Madden 2018 at a friend's house and I felt like EA owed me money.
@TheCoffeeLord
@TheCoffeeLord 9 ай бұрын
"Can I be a white guy?" That quote has to be my top tier favorite line from Joe.
@megamax898
@megamax898 9 ай бұрын
"I want pink and pale!"
@chickenquesadilla8139
@chickenquesadilla8139 9 ай бұрын
I was on the Madden team for ten years. Funny enough, you're spot on about a lot of things, especially Franchise. Wish the game could be good, but........oh well. Blame QA all you want, but they do their job. The problem with this game is at its core, not on QA. PS: Trust me, 90% of the senior management team or lead devs do zero gaming at all. They don't listen to any feedback outside of Reddit. They don't go to KZbin except to post their own hype videos. Senior management is more likely to be watching movies/schmoozing between meetings, not improving the game. Love the yearly roasting, but I was seriously the only person on my team to watch them. They actively avoid the negative stuff outside their "influencers".
@Kabooooom670
@Kabooooom670 9 ай бұрын
Fuckkk EA lol
@lilporky8565
@lilporky8565 9 ай бұрын
Okay, now I'm dying to see what these "hype videos" are.
@thatONEmachine
@thatONEmachine 8 ай бұрын
I'm sure it's the same or worse for NHL 24. Sadly.
@TheGoIsWin21
@TheGoIsWin21 8 ай бұрын
This more or less matches what my suspicions were. There's zero competition to drive the management to be invested in the product, and there's zero pressure from the NFL (who seems more concerned with profit than product quality across the board) to drive management as well. It's probably a fantastic job to have as a project manager, tbh. 🙄
@YouTubeCensors
@YouTubeCensors 8 ай бұрын
Are you the same guy who referred to the Madden team as retirees just putting in time until they retire or was it another Former Madden Dev.
@Drain-Life
@Drain-Life 7 ай бұрын
I like it when an honest critic drags the scum shills through the dirt.
@thomasdeakin8486
@thomasdeakin8486 3 ай бұрын
EA Sports, it's not in the game.
@unlucky_thir13en
@unlucky_thir13en 9 ай бұрын
I don't feel like AJ gets enough credit for his ability to turn the most lengthy rants into some of the most coherent review scores ever. Whenever he builds up to his rating of a game, I always mentally guess what he's going to say based on everything that came before, and my prediction always matches his score. It's a real talent he has since he actually uses the full 1-10 range, rather than just sticking a 7 on everything like most outlets.
@Jotchuaa
@Jotchuaa 9 ай бұрын
Yo same . He brings a certain energy that helps me guess the rating as well
@EpilepticBob
@EpilepticBob 9 ай бұрын
Only good part of a new Madden is seeing Joe’s rant on them lmao
@YorkieNerd
@YorkieNerd 9 ай бұрын
MMG took a lot of shots in this review…and he absolutely deserves it. Dude makes videos clearly geared towards kids, spending thousands on packs and making it look awesome to kids with their parents card info and destroying the game for casual gamers
@zarthemad8386
@zarthemad8386 9 ай бұрын
and the real kicker... is EA runs bots to force you to pay X amount to win
@BethesdaModder
@BethesdaModder 9 ай бұрын
The thing I can't get over is how none of it carries over to the next year's game. What a colossal waste of money/time. Stupid mfs
@yoshifan3077
@yoshifan3077 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, he basically called him out for his bologna sandwich
@TheMock5000
@TheMock5000 9 ай бұрын
Well he does have a pedo stasche.
@graciaman
@graciaman 9 ай бұрын
I'd never even heard of that guy until this video. He looks cringe af. Sucks that he is successful :(
@YouTubeCensors
@YouTubeCensors 8 ай бұрын
He could easily copy paste the previous years game review and use it for a decade and still be 90% accurate every year.
@random_kid2749
@random_kid2749 7 ай бұрын
18:35 is an absolute classic angry joe line.😂😂
@jbizzle6929
@jbizzle6929 9 ай бұрын
“This one almost killed me” Proceeds to make even longer versions of these reviews every year We love you, Joe 😂
@ResonantJustice
@ResonantJustice 9 ай бұрын
More effort went into this hour long review than the entirety of Madden 24.
@soapbox435
@soapbox435 9 ай бұрын
unironically true
@jbiehlable
@jbiehlable 9 ай бұрын
Or any of them really.
@WizardofTruth
@WizardofTruth 9 ай бұрын
True
@strick2352
@strick2352 9 ай бұрын
Yes to this
@somethinglikethat2176
@somethinglikethat2176 9 ай бұрын
​@@jbiehlable that's not fair. Some of those were good.... 15-20 years ago. 😢
@jamesharris2908
@jamesharris2908 8 ай бұрын
I keep on rewatching minute 25 over and over again. The way Joe says that you can show off your gear online has me in tears each time, especially after Other Joe says that some of the purchaseable gear is a good deal. “Geeeeaaarrrrr” I can’t stop laughing!
@jonathannell3377
@jonathannell3377 4 ай бұрын
Let this be a lesson to those who don't know what can happen if you have a monopoly you get lackluster quality because there is nothing else out there that can compete with NFL.
@rassellfahl1728
@rassellfahl1728 9 ай бұрын
We all came in for that 10/10 Madden Review and Joe never fails to deliver. Thank you Joe!
@jarrettm3728
@jarrettm3728 9 ай бұрын
Im waiting for his starfield review to buy it
@marlon.8051
@marlon.8051 9 ай бұрын
@@jarrettm3728buy a month of gamepass and try it out
@GoCrazy69
@GoCrazy69 8 ай бұрын
Fr
@thebatburger
@thebatburger 8 ай бұрын
@@jarrettm3728lol guess you found out
@AllPersonalNothingBusiness
@AllPersonalNothingBusiness 9 ай бұрын
I've never wished for a company's failure more than I do for this one. I honestly hope they lose everything if that can ever happen
@shanephillips4011
@shanephillips4011 9 ай бұрын
Billions and billions in Ultimate Team revenue........too bad there are so many morons with more money than brains.
@thebigpig2364
@thebigpig2364 9 ай бұрын
For me it’s Nintendo. It will never happen, but. If their entire company closed down, I wouldn’t feel bad.
@XeroChannel1
@XeroChannel1 9 ай бұрын
Nope, to many streamers buy this shit every year, and spend $1000’s
@needum9212
@needum9212 9 ай бұрын
@@thebigpig2364 really why nintendo?
@DresdenShuffle
@DresdenShuffle 9 ай бұрын
That goes for like 99% of the gaming industry minus most indie companies. We’ve needed another video game crash again for nearly 2 decades now. I hope it happens but I doubt it with all the money these pos companies make from dumbass gamers.
@katobytes
@katobytes 9 ай бұрын
I look forward to Angry Joe's Madden review every year. It's a tradition at this point.
@MikesAfterActionReviews
@MikesAfterActionReviews 8 ай бұрын
at 46:04 that genuinely looks like Captain Anderson from Mass Effect. I wouldn't be surprised if it actually is the same asset used for the face of a character from a game that came out in 2007!
@achievement365
@achievement365 9 ай бұрын
Joe's Madden Angry Reviews are a yearly tradition at this point lmao. But I also just gotta say I appreciate you still being around Joe and working hard on shit like this brother. I've been watching you for a significant portion of my life and you are firmly in the KZbin gaming history books. Just wanna give my respect to a legend while he's still doing it rather than waiting until he moves onto something else
@txbucsfan
@txbucsfan 9 ай бұрын
Well said!
@skyhanstar
@skyhanstar 9 ай бұрын
It's like early christmas present. 🤣
@oledirtymustard9291
@oledirtymustard9291 9 ай бұрын
No year is complete without an Angry Joe Madden review 🙌🏽🙌🏽
@26MECH
@26MECH 9 ай бұрын
Facts I might need to make lunch for this one 😂
@justinjohnson4920
@justinjohnson4920 9 ай бұрын
I disagree. I wish he would spend his time on much more worthwhile games.
@_Mikeebeed_
@_Mikeebeed_ 9 ай бұрын
@@justinjohnson4920Ea deserves this heat. People need to know how bad this “make or break” year is
@mattimeosono1257
@mattimeosono1257 8 ай бұрын
I look forward to this video every year and drop what I'm doing to watch his Madden reviews. Looking forward to Madden '25's review!
@fereydunzengana1779
@fereydunzengana1779 6 ай бұрын
That face at 46:08 is captain Anderson from mass effect are they copy and pasting faces from other games?
@Zenjester
@Zenjester 9 ай бұрын
It’s a yearly tradition that we get a angry review on madden, and I’m always here for it
@shai310
@shai310 9 ай бұрын
Yeah tbh I could care less for Madden or football (or football games for that matter) but Joe's rants over Madden are always entertaining to me so I don't mind it whatsoever.
@LEEEchie
@LEEEchie 9 ай бұрын
As a South African NFL fan who never had the privilege to play American Football, this is the closest we'll get to experience the sport.. It's depressing that i have to resort to playing Madden 07 or 2k5 as it's superior in every way imaginable to modern titles.. Keep doing your thing AJ.
@InfinitiG-gz7ic
@InfinitiG-gz7ic 9 ай бұрын
Damn man that stinks, you got any buddies you could play an informal game with? Otherwise that sucks dude.
@mechabeach
@mechabeach 9 ай бұрын
That is the opposite of lecca
@NullAndVoidEmpire
@NullAndVoidEmpire 9 ай бұрын
You'll probably learn more about the game with '07. As a Brit in the States, I got sick of ads every 3-6 minutes and I don't hate the sport, but that NFL license & EA are both AAA turds at this point.
@mpac3602
@mpac3602 9 ай бұрын
Don’t SA’s like basketball ?
@Maddog71xx
@Maddog71xx 9 ай бұрын
24 gameplay is more realistic this year than madden has been since madden 10 but I agree my favorite was madden 08 it just dosnet have the qb vision like 06 and 07 had
@jonesvaughn8946
@jonesvaughn8946 6 ай бұрын
What's crazy is that the whole injury thing still happens a lot because I play franchise mode and literally after every two plays throughout the game a player on my team or the other team gets injured🤦🏾‍♂️
@squeezydonutz
@squeezydonutz 3 ай бұрын
I'm amazed after all these years, EA still doesn't know that running out of bounds stops the clock! Drives me crazy! I'll play this shit in Gamepass from time to time, but will never buy another Madden. That anniversary mode stuff was in QB Club 98.
@SupercharizardEx
@SupercharizardEx 9 ай бұрын
At this point, Joe ought to just set up a Madden Piñata every year. These Angry Madden reviews have become so frequent that it's pretty much like celebrating a holiday.
@deeznuttes9340
@deeznuttes9340 9 ай бұрын
i understand he's doing it for content, but damn imagine being such a football fan that, even though you KNOW it's gonna be garbage, you still shell out the the cash for the game on launch kekw, i can't even comprehend that shit tbh. At least EA gives us fuel for a good old fashioned angry review though, they do at least THAT right lmaoo
@cursedhawkins1305
@cursedhawkins1305 9 ай бұрын
It might at least help his mental health because he has something to beat the shit out of
@skyrim654
@skyrim654 9 ай бұрын
Angry Joe's yearly Madden Bingo!
@davidzimmer5736
@davidzimmer5736 9 ай бұрын
The fact that Joe still has energy to be angry at Madden after all these years is the true definition of dedication and I love him for it
@dt7197
@dt7197 9 ай бұрын
They’re making him mad, he isn’t trying to be mad lol
@Flame792
@Flame792 9 ай бұрын
or true definition of insanity
@wczombieslayer4743
@wczombieslayer4743 8 ай бұрын
i only buy madden for franchise mode and after playing this years madden franchise and messing around i can say that its a minor improvement from every other year of franchise mode I've played would hope that one day they will put more effort into franchise mode though i don't even touch ultimate team
@Magic_Joker420
@Magic_Joker420 8 ай бұрын
love the video this is watching a slow decent into madness im glad i havent played madden in years its sad what it has become
@derrickmehok9465
@derrickmehok9465 9 ай бұрын
Just gonna say before I even watched this video, just by seeing how long it is, you guys put more work into this review than EA has put into Madden for the last 5 years.
@havoknkhaos91
@havoknkhaos91 9 ай бұрын
More like the last 10 years 🤣
@MillionMUFFIN
@MillionMUFFIN 9 ай бұрын
And the next 5 years too.
@Pax.YouTube
@Pax.YouTube 9 ай бұрын
Reminded me of that Steam comment: "The people who make Overwatch porn work harder than the people who make Overwatch."
@jacobscarberry4799
@jacobscarberry4799 9 ай бұрын
*ahem* almost 20
@TheDrigodamus
@TheDrigodamus 9 ай бұрын
One hour video.
@elnalaombrebois5665
@elnalaombrebois5665 9 ай бұрын
I don't play madden, I don't know the rules of american football, I never even watched a game of it. But Joe's reviews of madden are always a special moment for me. And universe knows how i feel sorry for american football fans for not having a single recent good game about it. At this point, EA is literally scamming people (or at list making false advertisement...)
@yougaming6461
@yougaming6461 9 ай бұрын
They are the reason it's bad ?? ....if they had morals and a bit of control and didn't buy it for just 1 year EA would fix everything cus of all the millions they would loose.... football fans are to blame. If someone offers you 80 dollars for a bag of shit wouldn't you go grab another bag of shit to get more money?? It's the fans fault.
@duskthunder9274
@duskthunder9274 9 ай бұрын
FIFA sucks too or whatever it’s called now the only good sports game is nhl and ufc
@Michael-sb8jf
@Michael-sb8jf 9 ай бұрын
Fifa and madden are two sides of the same coin.
@artbargra
@artbargra 9 ай бұрын
@@yougaming6461 Just like Joe said, if the moron fans are happy with this shit, then can have it. Problem is, the bullsht tactics that plague EA do extend to games that people with working braincells play.
@Static-EN-
@Static-EN- 9 ай бұрын
Tell these "American football fans" to stop buying trash so they can stop having trash every year
@darrenpellichino2923
@darrenpellichino2923 7 ай бұрын
It's been a long time since I bought a madden game. The last one I bought I remember creating my own player and playing a season of football with my player. I also was able to put him through training between every week of play which increased his stats. It was pretty epic but it was along time ago and you probably can't do those things in madden now.
@darrenpellichino2923
@darrenpellichino2923 7 ай бұрын
I also forgot to mention that they also had historical players I was able to add to the game.
@NotThatJonesShow
@NotThatJonesShow 4 ай бұрын
Hey Joe its rrally awesome of you to credit and share videos from smaller channels it really helps hammer home how the community feels these days SoftdrinkTV is an awesome channel and I i would love for you guys to collab on a NBA or NFL video sometime
@michaelpitcher2820
@michaelpitcher2820 9 ай бұрын
I don't even watch football or play madden. These are my favorite angry joe episodes. I look forward to every year lol
@Quintessence4444
@Quintessence4444 9 ай бұрын
It's a yearly tradition at this point.
@kingjulien9525
@kingjulien9525 9 ай бұрын
You and me both. NBA2K as well. GarBAge!!
@selah199
@selah199 9 ай бұрын
I am not even a football fan, but I watch these reviews every time you release them. I am with you on the fight and you explain things so well. But the reason why I’m in the fight more than anything is because I know that this is seeping over into all of the other games for future consequences
@Tylericous
@Tylericous 9 ай бұрын
I am a football fan and it’s why I watch these. I just want a game where I can play as my Bears and have a good time but these games are so half baked. Is it too much to ask for a good football game where I can run around as my favorite players?
@thsudy
@thsudy 9 ай бұрын
Now we need these types of reviews for Pokémon so Nintendo can give the franchise to a different studio.
@therealMrA
@therealMrA 6 ай бұрын
@@thsudy Most people know that Pokémon is and has always been a simplistic JRPG for kids.
@cleverwitticismhere6922
@cleverwitticismhere6922 3 ай бұрын
Oh, that Starfield comment did not age well.
@evanyoutuber
@evanyoutuber 4 ай бұрын
59:00. Imagine what YOU could do with $1000. Would you feed the starving? Would you buy a PS5? MMG chooses to spend it on in-game micro-transitions that have no use outside of the game. I guess it’s not the biggest deal in the world, and to each their own on how they want to spend their money, I’m just a bit confused.
@ByakkoSL
@ByakkoSL 9 ай бұрын
I love how even if the game is still the same each and every year, Joe manage to make the review longer each and every time
@abduljabars
@abduljabars 9 ай бұрын
You know you got a top notch franchise when the reviewers put in more effort each year than the game developers.
@nukenade4623
@nukenade4623 9 ай бұрын
and i hate that madden fans have yet to treat the franchise with pure apathy. they will cancel it. if madden fans treated it with pure apathy and pretend the franchise no longer exists
@SplinteredLarynx
@SplinteredLarynx 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for turning this yearly schlock into an entertaining dissesction of the worst that AAA games industry has to offer. This is why I'm proud to be a patron.
@CantRead1
@CantRead1 9 ай бұрын
"Triple A gaming? Bad." KZbin commenters probably.
@jd2792
@jd2792 9 ай бұрын
​@@CantRead1he isnt worng
@chasejackson7248
@chasejackson7248 9 ай бұрын
Yet people will still buy it
@baileyalexanderjones8515
@baileyalexanderjones8515 6 ай бұрын
I love how every Angry Joe Review starts off with the most genuine "Thank you so much, I think you'll really enjoy what's in stock!" type of thing and then transitions into the most brutal thing the devs have ever seen against their work 🤣
@GEEKFREAK01
@GEEKFREAK01 9 ай бұрын
Remember when Midway & EA used to make the NFL Blitz/Street games? I miss that era of football games
@kohnjack
@kohnjack 9 ай бұрын
The best part of Madden is seeing the angry review. You’d think a billion dollar company would figure their sh*t out.
@Spawn3X5
@Spawn3X5 9 ай бұрын
They have....suckers giving them tons of money
@TheForeignGamer
@TheForeignGamer 9 ай бұрын
People still continue to buy EA'S sports games because there is virtually no other competition, which is by design. As a result, they have zero incentive to actually make a game that not only is worth the money, but also respects the player's time, and frankly, their intelligence as a consumer.
@jacksonteller3973
@jacksonteller3973 9 ай бұрын
@@TheForeignGamer that's cause most people that buy sports games don't buy many other games so they're not aware of how they're being exploited.
@TheForeignGamer
@TheForeignGamer 9 ай бұрын
​@@jacksonteller3973And worst of all, many of them hardly seem to care even if you try to inform them. They just wanna play their sports game with the bros and call it a day. A real shame, tbh.
@Tacom4ster
@Tacom4ster 9 ай бұрын
Cutting corners to serve late stage capitalism
@chanbenyamin3527
@chanbenyamin3527 9 ай бұрын
Im from Singapore and we have no NFL here. But Joe's annual rant on this series is always something i look forward to!
@jtproductions5363
@jtproductions5363 9 ай бұрын
Love you country man and dont worry you are not missing out on much 😂
@jameslwjtoler
@jameslwjtoler 4 ай бұрын
I grew up in central Florida, so I had a couple of buddies who were testers over at EA Tiburon. Trust me when I tell you, they absolutely know it's garbage. This will not stop until people stop buying it.
@WWIA7062-2
@WWIA7062-2 8 ай бұрын
11:58 it says on the bottem left corner A to advance the devs could have mis matched the X on that part of the UI with a playstation controller or just overlooked it that badly
@for_the_lore5567
@for_the_lore5567 9 ай бұрын
These Madden rants are like Christmas, someone is in pain and I am greatly entertained.
@ricardohoang8452
@ricardohoang8452 9 ай бұрын
Early Christmas 👌
@Alex-dn2wx
@Alex-dn2wx 9 ай бұрын
I too am entertained by Joe's pain
@JoeBuk724
@JoeBuk724 9 ай бұрын
There’s a word for that, schadenfreude. I remember hearing it on some comedy show, 🤔 can’t remember which one though.
@for_the_lore5567
@for_the_lore5567 9 ай бұрын
@@JoeBuk724 Normally in America we call it "Welcome to Jackass!"
@navonmyhand7999
@navonmyhand7999 9 ай бұрын
Same I don't buy Madden yearly becsuse I know what I'll get but it's tradition to watch every review out of entertainment value alone.
@Zakading
@Zakading 9 ай бұрын
These Madden reviews are always the most oldschool, ACTUALLY angry Angry Reviews and I just love it
@knightsouls
@knightsouls 2 ай бұрын
We re-designed the flooberation aspectation immunisation animations and re-tooled the hotdog vendor attitude capacitor.
@schlitz009
@schlitz009 5 ай бұрын
Wat is this Angry Joe song on at the end also in Gollum, on KZbin muisc?
@EvenstarTV
@EvenstarTV 9 ай бұрын
Madden never disappoints anymore to let people down.
@Dogmeat229
@Dogmeat229 9 ай бұрын
I don't play Madden and I don't watch football but I always look forward to Angry Joe's yearly Madden reviews.
@WickedSensei
@WickedSensei 9 ай бұрын
Same lol
@nehuenbec
@nehuenbec 9 ай бұрын
same *hands popcorn to you*
@jbzhummerh2gamer
@jbzhummerh2gamer 9 ай бұрын
Same
@ShaneDane12
@ShaneDane12 8 ай бұрын
Man, I missed “Madden Moments” those were cool. A nice recap of the season before. I believe they even started doing live Madden moments, that would get added after an epic moment occurred during that season.
@Kilawpilath
@Kilawpilath 9 ай бұрын
Angry Joe, OJ, and Alex put more effort in these videos then EA puts into their Games that get reviewed.
@BruvahSulaiman
@BruvahSulaiman 9 ай бұрын
I remember playing All Pro Football 2k8. They had animations that tied to specific injuries. You could tell what part of the body was injured most of the time by the animation that played. There was one where the ball carrier would fall awkwardly on his arm, and it would always be an arm related injury.
@thepubknight6144
@thepubknight6144 9 ай бұрын
When NBA 2k had the ESPN license they literally had the ESPN NBA pregame show, with actual coaches getting pre game or post game interviews with David Aldridge and actual star NBA players with their actual voices (over hundreds of them ) Also had their NBA finals pre and post game Also every player has their signature moves, taunts and mannerisms even players from the 1970s-2010s 2k used ESPN and actually has authenticity with the actual NBA and they make a tenth of what EA Madden makes and blows them out of the water
@YouTubeCensors
@YouTubeCensors 8 ай бұрын
​@@thepubknight6144we also had true custom soundtracks on Xbox and I had all the NFL Films music and NFL Prime TIME from ESPN
@dannydorito4675
@dannydorito4675 8 ай бұрын
I still play it today. The more I play it the more awesome the game is. It has so much stuff Madden dont have. The one injury when the dude starts limping and grabbing his leg in the middle of the play is the one I see the most. The gang tackling looks right in all pro. The refs throwing the flag and turning the mic up to say what the penalty is. There is so much detail that Madden misses thats in a 16 year old game.
@jayebejer7431
@jayebejer7431 7 ай бұрын
​@thepubknight6144 I had all the 2k sports game on dreamcast.. they were fantastic
@lusafur950
@lusafur950 5 ай бұрын
That was the last real good football sim game .They need to make another one and let the MUT FXGATS play MUT while the rest of us play a good football all game
@FineFictMen
@FineFictMen 9 ай бұрын
You know, with 2023 being one of the best years in gaming history with so many good games, I dont even know EA would learn their lesson. lol
@canadianbacon587
@canadianbacon587 8 ай бұрын
NFL 2K5 was the last football game I bought. I can’t believe it’s been this long since I’ve played the sport I love on a console. EA, at some point you need to either sell off the license or, actually care about what you have and who buys your product. Unfortunately, I don’t think you’ll do either. 🙄
@HeisenbergFam
@HeisenbergFam 9 ай бұрын
14 years later and Joe not going insane from angry rants is impressive, unless hes already insane
@jackielogan9104
@jackielogan9104 9 ай бұрын
insanity can be concealed in many ways.
@jp.metalhead
@jp.metalhead 9 ай бұрын
The definition of insanity is playing Madden yearly and expecting every release to be a good game
@Hitoshuratdn
@Hitoshuratdn 9 ай бұрын
​@@jp.metalheadbut the contenttttttt
@tallyhanma.official
@tallyhanma.official 9 ай бұрын
Here before i coom
@Yeshalot
@Yeshalot 9 ай бұрын
that's the trick. he's always angry.
@MegaJ2J
@MegaJ2J 9 ай бұрын
Just love AJ's "F*** you, give me money" quote. Especially with the emotion and tone he uses😂😂😂
@SeriousDragonify
@SeriousDragonify 9 ай бұрын
Timestamp?
@notkimpine
@notkimpine 9 ай бұрын
me when i spent a mario wonder game
@ItIsYouAreNotYour
@ItIsYouAreNotYour 9 ай бұрын
I love how he uses that little paid schill blonde kid.
@RedDrake110
@RedDrake110 9 ай бұрын
I'd wear it on a shirt every day
@jlotto5165
@jlotto5165 9 ай бұрын
⁠@@SeriousDragonify18:36 😂
@roxasreaper8989
@roxasreaper8989 8 ай бұрын
I stopped playing Madden in general since like 17 cause I earned all of my players in MUT, never spent a dime, had a good team too. Buddy dropped dollars and instantly had a better team than me, mind you I grinded for my players, I was done after that P.S. I remember playing through the super bowl in old games just to hear the different dialogue they would talk about each team
@codychen9036
@codychen9036 2 ай бұрын
1:48, 2:00, 2:06, 3:38, 10:03, 11:35, 13:47, 12:00, 13:47, 14:40, 17:03, 17:47, 18:43, 19:03, 21:07, 23:45, 24:01, 24:15, 24:59, 26:43, 27:32, 30:20, 32:16, 42:16, 43:53, 45:24, 46:04, 46:09, 50:52, 51:25,
@qdilly7397
@qdilly7397 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Larian and From Soft for raising the standards. Putting EA to shame.
@GeneralToxicus
@GeneralToxicus 9 ай бұрын
The standard has been a lot higher than what Madden has done for the last few years. How this franchise after years and years of poor reception is still going and making a lot of money is baffling. I guess whales and addicts really do make companies a lot of money.
@qui-gonsgin8747
@qui-gonsgin8747 9 ай бұрын
@@georgiaboi7193yeah same goes for Activision and Callofduty
@Kovac_
@Kovac_ 9 ай бұрын
Nothing fucking changes. A sports fan doesn't care about CRPG's, they've never even heard of DnD. They'll buy madden / FIFA / NBA every single year and purchase a new roster of players. This "putting EA to shame", what a fucking joke. If it truly mattered, EA would've bent the knee years ago if it was bad for their business, but no. They can keep rehashing the same game over and over for decades and the money just keeps flowing in, they lose absolutely nothing from people giving these games bad reviews. The ones playing these types of games don't watch reviews, they aren't "gamers" per se, they just buy a thing with their favorite thing in it.
@Sick_Pencil
@Sick_Pencil 9 ай бұрын
Thanks EA for keeping Madden released so we can enjoy our annual angry joe's rage.
@marklane740
@marklane740 8 ай бұрын
I quit playing M23 before Christmas and already quit playing M24 about two weeks ago! They took away the GAP pack too. Wish that was mentioned in the video.
@kodiekulp
@kodiekulp 8 ай бұрын
I think Joe screaming about physics was my favorite part. "BALL CANT GO THROUGH DA GUY"
@IMaximusDMI
@IMaximusDMI 9 ай бұрын
Never stop reviewing this franchise. Makes for great content, but damn, do I feel bad for Joe having to waste hours of his life not only playing it but the time taken to edit the review together. Truly taking one for the team. I'll say what I said everytime; Joe puts more effort in his Madden reviews than the team that pumped this game out.
@notkimpine
@notkimpine 9 ай бұрын
i think your adrenaline is not good enough to shout a bad ea sports game than ranting a joe rogan nonstop podcast for 5 houts
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