Everything Wrong With Alien 3 In 16 Minutes Or Less

[@WhiteRhinoPSO]

"Aren't these things strong, and fast? Do they really need to employ stealth tactics?" Well, yes. That's what the entire first film was about. There was a single alien alone on a ship, so it largely employed stealth tactics in order to catch and kill its victims. In the sequel, there were so many aliens that they didn't have to sneak around to get the job done. They had overwhelming numbers. This movie involves another single alien dealing with a large number of targets, just like the first film.

[@nunureds837]

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[@petewadesays12]

Yep. I'm learning this channel doesn't seem to actually watch the films.

[@ginrodino8542]

Hell, even in the 2nd movie they used some level of stealth (the room where they were crawling in the ceiling and when they took Newt)

[@davidsmith8283]

My problem with Alien 3 at the time it came out was basically it was the sequel I didn't want. I had wanted Hicks and Newt to still be alive, have the Sulaco get back to Gateway Station only to find it abandoned. Then have Ripley, Hicks, and Newt slowly discover that Earth had been compromised. Have the movie be about them trying to locate and extract survivors without allowing any xenomorphs from tagging along.

[@stephanieakaashenka2537]

Oooo that would have been a good movie!

[@petewadesays12]

That would have just been ALIENS again. Yay for the same thing over and over

[@deathrooster14]

The Original script was similar to that but it only followed hicks with a Xeno virus, like the neomorphs in Covenant.

[@averymerrick]

Holy crap. That's a good idea.

[@juanausensi499]

@@petewadesays12 The actual Alien3 is Alien again.

[@justc1re617]

I always thought that she didn't tell them about the possible alien because she knew that the company would come and try to preserve it.

[@justincoleman3805]

They also didn’t believe her in aliens. So she didn’t want to be ignored again.

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

Exactly

[@petewadesays12]

That's exactly why lol

[@carlcassidy185]

Of course. That's literally explained in the directors cut 😂 everyone slates Alien3, but hardly ever seen the DC version. Theatrical version is a mess

[@michelbalencourt904]

According to the title screen, this isn't Alien 3, this is Alien Cubed (Alien³). I expected a sin for that, or even better - for the final sin count to be cubed as well as punishment. If you're wondering, that's 1,481,544 sins, and that's the sin count I'll remember for this movie.

[@DanielWeinreb-vc6et]

I thought Alien 3 or cubed or whatever is actually a pretty decent movie in retrospect. I thought Charles Dance was underutilized and sacrificed too quickly but the writing at least was miles better than Prometheus or Covenant.

[@ghost307]

I read somewhere that Sigourney Weaver was getting sick of the decline in quality of these sequels and only agreed to do Aliens 3 if her character was killed off so she'd never have to do another one. Then someone showed up with a ton of money so she'd do Alien Resurrection...which you should also count the sins of.

[@amr_12_]

Oh yeah... that campy and weird Resurrection

[@redwizard0004]

Yeah but, wasn't Alien 3 the first decline in the sequels? A lot of people argue that Aliens is actually better than Alien, even if you don't think so Aliens is a classic masterpiece. So, what decline is she getting sick of? Unless she demanded that her character get killed off at the end of 3 because she read the script and had to be talked into it. But then she went on to do Alien Resurrection anyway which is arguably a worse movie than Alien 3. And she survived Alien Resurrection and therefore could have theoretically been in Alien Resurrection 2 (which thank God doesn't exist). Plus she did some voice acting for Alien Isolation. So she can't be that sick of it. Not so sick of it that she isn't willing to take the check anyway.

[@andrewmurray1550]

"Aliens" was the only sequel at that point, I'd hardly call that a decline in quality (compared to Alien). Other sequels and films in the Alien universe have followed, but two (three?) of those have been prequels directed by Ridley Scott, and the other two not related to the others in terms of story/plot (the AvP franchise).

[@conorcoad8037]

Lmao yeah resurrection only got Weaver because she said that they “drove a DUMPTRUCK OF MONEY to my house” 🤣😂🤣

[@anikmonette2140]

@@amr_12_ If I remember correctly the guy who made Catwoman worked on this movie, hence the campiness and weird erotic vibes.

[@JakkFrost1]

2:50 The prison is owned by Weyland Yutani, whom she naturally doesn't trust. She in no way wants to give them another shot at capturing the xenomorphs if she can help it.

[@necrographical]

Out of the frying pan...

[@ChaseMC215]

@@necrographical And into the fire

[@jtgd]

MC Chase more like giant flaming furnace

[@leonardokula5742]

Exactly!

[@leandroteixeira33]

On the second movie, though, she gave them all the information they needed and still only one guy believed her enough to attempt anything. And she didn't need to mention the word "alien". Just say "feels like the work of an animal, maybe a dangerous one".

[@tracysullivan9716]

Charles Dance makes everything he is in better, but he's not a miracle worker. The assembly cut is better.

[@CodyChromeBand]

Actually it's worse. Don't be a sheep

[@tracysullivan9716]

Cody pretty sure I am allowed to have my own opinion and just because I like it doesn’t make me a sheep. I don’t like it because of anyone else or other people’s opinions. Like you are allowed to hate it.

[@CodyChromeBand]

@@tracysullivan9716 it's popular to hate on this movie bc it's such a downer, is all I'm saying. Honestly there are enough trite happy endings in cinema. Cinephiles should be able to appreciate the attempt and boldness to make something subversive. Saying the "assembly cut is better" without actually explaining what makes it better is, again, just falling in line. The assembly cut is useless, takes away tension and alters one of the best scenes in the film, the Newt/Hicks funeral scene, with an inexplicable scene of the alien coming out of a dead ox. That moment itself is more laughable than anything in the theatrical.

[@tracysullivan9716]

Cody I like the theatrical cut too. I guess I am biased since I was the assembly cut first. I have no problem with grim endings. I think each version has parts that are better than the other. I was not trying to make a case for the virtues of the assembly cut of the movie. It was more about Charles Dance being awesome.

[@tracysullivan9716]

Cody I do agree that the funeral scene would have been much better without the ox. I do like the ox better than the dog because the alien is huge after exiting a very small hole on the dog. Size wise the ox makes sense to me. Also I don't like watching anything that hurts dogs. Kill all the people you want but not dogs or cats.

[@jimp1151]

The director's cut of this movie is almost completely different, they actually capture the alien inside the container but the crazy convict sets it free

[@tarantulagirl]

jim p ahh yeah that was Golic, he became obsessed with it, saying it was his friend!

[@joserondon7855]

I always forget that there are versions of Alien 3 that aren’t the assembly cut.

[@StillTheVoid]

Yes...alien 3 is technically the last in the Ripley arc in which in the director's cut the queen never bursted out making the scene more dramatic. Apparently a few folks at fox...didn't like the idea that Ripley's suicide by choice was appropriate for audiences.

[@omegarugal9283]

and junior reedems himself by leading the alien to the container so the other can close the door behind it...

[@davidklochko7143]

That's the version i watch, i was confused as why cinemaSins didn't sin the convict releasing the Alien since that's so dumb, or why did he say the Alien came out of a Dog, instead of an ox

[@sirdrakey]

Fun Fact I meet a little girl about 8 and her mom at the theater the little girl wanted to see it because Ripley had the same hair cut. She had cancer and was recovering and her mom had shaved her head too, for support. Really nice folks! The little girl loved horror movies.

[@countryboy39051]

That's pretty awesome!

[@meredithgrubb4497]

I hope she fully recovered and is still enjoying these movies.

[@sirdrakey]

@meredithgrubb4497 I really hope so she was definitely a light in the dark!

[@pussycats456]

I was that kind of 8 year old! ❤

[@dukenukem69]

What a depressing movie for her to see

[@literallypuni4091]

When beloved movie characters triumph over great adversity and have their supposed happy ending retconned... *it pisses people off.* AND PEOPLE WONDER why Terminator: Dark Fate, Last Jedi, and TLoU2 were "divisive."

[@theriflemaan]

I have the feeling they are afraid to stray too far from the originals because they think that's what people expect, but I think the universes these movies are set in offer so much to make good content with. Rogue One, for example, was great, but the other new Star Wars movies...

[@adampkalb]

What about Logan? That retconned the happy ending of X-Men: Days of Future Past. What makes Logan any better than The Last Jedi?

[@JustSomeCanadianGuy]

@@adampkalb I like to think Logan is the X-Men: The Last Stand continuity before it was undone by the events of Days of Future Past. ^_^

[@adampkalb]

@@JustSomeCanadianGuy How interesting. I never thought about it that way.

[@AdamZimmerman-c6i]

Or Resident Evil the final chapter. Killing off Jill, Ada and Leon between movies was so dumb

[@godemperorjay116]

Fun Fact in a different version of the movie the alien came out of an ox

[@YurinanAcquiline]

I would have loved to see a big, hulking xenomorph.

[@KRS2000]

Unfortunately, that never happened. We still got the same looking cgi crap fest running amok.

[@Schwartzbruder1]

@@KRS2000 what's fucked up is that the alien wasn't CGI. There was almost no CGI is alien 3. What you saw was a puppet imposed onto the screen

[@orgxii93]

That's referred as the assembly cut not the director's cut since there was so much studio interference

[@Tmngldn]

Yeah and iirc it looked a little different because of that (since they can replicate the looks of the host)

[@drunkenhoneybadger9278]

Biggest sin of the movie was killing off Newt and rendering the last 30 minutes of Aliens useless

[@joserondon7855]

Yeah but Newt sucks and her screeching basically ruined Aliens.

[@mr.egotastic7303]

So they ruined aliens and the pay off was nothing? If your gonna suffer through something the last thing you want is for it to be for nothing

[@Temporary_Doctor]

100%

[@literallypuni4091]

Terminator: Dark Fate, Last Jedi, Alien: Covenant, and TLoU2 know that feel.

[@gavinyoung7085]

because Aliens was 6 years earlier they couldn't use the same actress for Newt and they didn't want to use someone else so they killed her off

[@abelgonzalez1060]

"Did....did she just feel a disturbance in the Force?" 😂

[@youtubeenigma8316]

This was what I was looking for.

[@ratbat1072]

Ripley > Rey

[@dropkickmurphy4114]

@Michael Freed That would be Star Wars, not Star Trek. It was Alec Guiness as Obi-Wan who spoke the line you are trying to remember in A New Hope.

[@rozu7772]

@Michael Freed "As if billions of voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."

[@giantcafe7040]

Probably the alien baby

[@daisiesofdoom]

Space Tywin Lannister wanting to pay his debts with Ripley is hilarious.

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

I have to remove some of your sins: 1: "I have no idea wtf these guys are doing with all those buckets" - using waste from the containment facility to burn out the alien. 2: "Everyone survives this" - No they didn't. At least 50% of the inmates got burnt alive. 3: "Who is this guy? totally new character we haven't seen before" - He was cleaning up the blood in the mess hall 4: "that's a terrible accent" - Danny Webb who played Morse is an English actor. That's his voice lol

[@helgaratbone1691]

Keep the sins in place! This garbage movie deserves them.

[@347Jimmy]

From the number of inmates and staff stated at the start of the film, it's a very accurate kill count. Everyone (named or not) is accounted for.

[@lunaticfade4044]

I'd also lose the sin about Charles Dance, Clemmons is easily one of the best side characters in the entire franchise and a lot of that has to do with Dance's performance...that he did with an unfinished and constantly changing script.

[@flipphone9748]

END OF TRANSMISSION... “Sigh..if only it was true..” 😂😂

[@omniphysical]

No mercy.

[@conorcoad8037]

Dude the movie was utterly shit to say the least but that ending is probably my second favourite ending to anything ever

[@SgtSupaman]

"How is this dude taken seriously as a leader with that voice?" Sri Sumbhajee would like a word.

[@jd3795]

who?

[@darkadrien14]

captain america voice : "i understood that reference "

[@darkadrien14]

@@jd3795 indian captain in POTC 3

[@zaheersarang6466]

Yeah and his emissary got shot

[@rozu7772]

"And so . . . we shall go to war!"

[@lambsauce6585]

Why kill newt ? I mean she survived for so long all on her own against aliens and facehuggers and then you just drown her, that’s so bad no wonder weaver didn’t want to do anymore movies

[@lostintechnicolor]

The Assembly Cut is definitely superior. I can’t remember who said it, but someone once said about Alien 3: “It’s a good movie, but it’s a bad sequel.” It’s pretty crazy how David Fincher was able to get SOMETHING watchable out of that disaster of a production.

[@rudamachoo]

director's cut makes up for a couple of things... like a cow instead of a dog lmao

[@dylanchilders]

Oh my god I was so confused as to why I didn't recognize the dog lol

[@shecomments2much189]

Raises an interesting question, was the Chestburster already good to come out when the cow was killed? Don’t they need the host alive?

[@Ediblebomb]

@@shecomments2much189 probably ready to burst

[@Tue_]

Read up on that - seems like a dumb change. They have a set life cycle and change appearance based on the host, so it would look completely different if it came from a cow instead of a dog.

[@Dave82517]

I prefer it with the bull instead of the dog. Hearing the dog whimpering and crying in the original was horrible when I first watched this

[@hdb999]

soooo... when's Alien 4 review coming out?

[@BeCoShooter]

I liked Alien Resurrection. Bought it on Blu-Ray.

[@flipphone9748]

Jeffrey J that movie was horrible, but to each their own

[@YouLousyKids]

Sadly, the best scene in Alien 4 is on the cutting room floor. Ripley rants that the Weyoun-Yutani corporation has evil plans, and someone breaks it to her that this big villainous company from all the other Alien movies is gone and bought up by Wal-Mart.

[@thecatfather857]

Jeffrey J I fell asleep watching it because I made the mistake of watching it from a bed. Getting under the blankets was just too tempting.

[@RedVelvetUnderground333]

It’s my fave

[@Hadar1991]

As an Alien fan I must say that Alien 3 had the most potential for being a masterpiece. I actually really like the Assembly Cut (30 minutes longer with ox instead of a dog) and if Fincher had the possibility to make this film without Fox interference Alien 3 could top first two movies. But this film was such a production hell that Fincher disowned this movie... :/

[@reginaschellhaas1395]

Agreed. I, too prefer the assembly cut. Poor Fincher had to make a "movie by committee", didn't even have a completed script as he began. What a waste of an opportunity to make an excellent film, and such poor treatment of Fincher.

[@johnnybaxter1953]

The assembly cut was better, but still not very good. Definitely not in the same realm as the first 2 movies

[@darkstormgts-5449]

15:52 there isn't a "no" sin?! Bishop's "no" is more deserving of it than any other no! Love the video tho, great work as always

[@redleg1376]

Worst part of the mooooooooovieeeeeeeee!

[@protosonic17]

I keep imagining the alien watching them set traps with the dialog from that dbza moment on namek with gohan and vegeta. "What are you doing? Thwarting my plans?" "Thwarting your plans?" "Thwarting my plans. Because that would be bad."

[@loganshinall8113]

I always thought the greatest sin in this movie was the scene at the beginning that shows a Facehugger running around the ship, melting into a pod, and then Newt and Hicks are confirmed to not have the Chestburster. I always felt like they tip their hand about Ripley being Facehugged a little too early, and it takes away a lot of the suspense, as well as the "twist". Sure, we know that a Facehugger came out of the ship and attacked a dog/ox but that would lead you to believe that the murder-Aliens that have been murder-alien-ing things for two movies at this point just opened the pod, looked at potential hosts just chillin', and said: "Fuck it, I'm gonna go get some fruit." That scene is what punched this movie in the nads from the get-go for me. Don't get me wrong, I love all the Alien movies (for being good and for being incredibly bad), but this movie is as close to irredeemable as you can get. Not so bad it's fun, not so good it's legendary, just a big "meh", and I'd argue it's all because that one scene at the beginning. Now I'm going to go watch all the Alien movies again, including this one, because they're awesome.

[@jeffreyhejny7522]

It's the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3 of the alien franchise.

[@kevthepoet]

The greatest sin was without a doubt killing Newt and Hicks, especially off screen with no heroic point. But I'll take the face hugger reveal for a distant 2nd or 3rd.

[@SinDesigns]

Of all the wisdom dropped on this channel, acknowledging that Michael Biehn was surely a better catch needs to go into the CinemaSins Hall of Fame. 💜

[@hakaveli72]

"There's Roc, the Florist,the tiny angry dude with the bad accent" Classic!!!

[@TheDidymusBrush]

Still stand by the Assembly Cut as being a damn fine movie. Shame they messed it up. The Theatrical Cut is dead to me and has been since 2003!

[@laziznuridin7356]

So true

[@raven_the_demon]

Can someone clear it up for me, is the one that is shown in the video the assembly cut or the director's cut? And what's the difference between them?

[@conorcoad8037]

There is absolutely no denying that the ending is a thing of beauty. The closing scene is the BEST CLOSING SCENE IN ANY MOVIE.

[@TheAngryAstronaut]

Hard to believe, but my son watched the Director's Cut of Alien 3, without seeing the original, and that was his favorite Alien film! The Director's Cut, he thought, was the perfect way to end the Trilogy. I wonder what would've happened to the franchise if the Director's Cut had been released in 1992.

[@jeremyswalley8625]

The main inconsistency is the gestation period of the aliens. Sometimes it takes hours others it takes minutes. Especially outta whack in AVP

[@southlondon86]

You have to admit: for such a troubled production David Fincher did manage to do something decent with this film. The film’s iconic shot of the alien next to Ripley’s head was shot even after the studio heads refused.

[@josephkissel6062]

It's the only iconic image from the entire film ...

[@southlondon86]

@@josephkissel6062 Ripley falling to her death while the Queen explodes out?

[@tarantulagirl]

I’d don’t know what’s more scary, Brian Glover as Mr Rottweiler in Bottom or the Alien dog/ox. That said I can’t believe CS are dissing him, he was a classic British actor.

[@EddieVanAidan]

All I can think of when I see him is “Gasmaaan!” 😂

[@tarantulagirl]

@@EddieVanAidan 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Man, I Miss Rik Mayall

[@tarantulagirl]

@@MrZoolook Love that film. Rik Mayall cameo’d in that film, too!

[@Nocrimehere]

You can say what you want, but I love this movie, how complicated the production process was, its generous practical special effects and sets, rotoscoping, the exquisite musical score conceived by Elliot Goldenthal, etc. Like other misunderstood cinematographic works, with the passage of time they become true treasures that everyone can enjoy and value.

[@lunaticfade4044]

Totally agree, and in reality this movie follows the rules of a trilogy, its just that THIS trilogy is a photo negative of that same traditional trilogy. Aliens shows us "Weyland Yutani isn't ALL evil, and Ripley wants to be a mom, a surrogate family triumphs" Alien3, brings its back to "Wayland Yutani IS evil, the surrogate family, does NOT triumph...and somehow the rejects of all society are actually going to finish off the alien." It's honestly very Punk Rock...Act 1 literally kills off this narrative that Aliens took back from Alien!

[@daniellevaughn4598]

I liked this movie. Especially the last scenes when they're trying to trap the alien. I love Charles S. Dutton as well.

[@chefar]

The movie has something for it for sure, but it was too long with many plot shortcuts.

[@knightmare5097]

@@chefar Not to mention way too many forgettable characters with zero personality

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

Charles S Dutton is a severly underrated actor. He owned his role. Still hard to believe that's Leeroy from Crocodile Dundee 2 lol. Shows some of his versatility.

[@southlondon86]

Madam wasn’t the British accent just annoying in this film though?

[@autumbreeze1129]

The main sin of this movie is it did a massive and unbelievably STUPID retcon just to exist, that retcon being there was not point during Aliens when the Xenomorph Queen would've had the time to stop in her murderous rampage for Revenge against Ripley for murdering all her children and think "hey, just in case I DON'T die, I'll lay two eggs in the escape pod I'm nowhere near and put them in hidden spaces so no one will notice them, except those hidden spaces will be easily noticeable. Seriously, there is no way between revealing she'd hitched a ride onto the main ship and fought Ripley the Queen would've had time to do that. Not to mention, even if she did, the egg of the facehugger that got Ripley was pretty much right next to the stasis pods. Are you seriously telling me, after all the shit she's been through because of those aliens, Ripley wouldn't have done a final sweep of the ship before going into stasis I DIDN'T see the obvious egg that stands out against the design of the ship like a sore thumb? This movie is complete and utter crappy fanfiction

[@Gobtik]

The assembly cut has a shot of different type of face hugger that one of the prisoners found, the common theory is that it could lay more than one egg. The comic book version has Newt dying in the crash and the queen escaping from her body and going into Ripley - implying Newt could already have been infected before Alien 3 - 2 weeks in cryo suspension between 2 and 3 could explain why nothing came out (remember Burke in Aliens wanted to do this to get the bodies through quarantine). Newt's dad was first infected in Aliens, it's odd that a single little girl somehow outlasts the entire colony with no resources The comic also has Bishop confirming this, so the egg on the ship created the dog alien on the planet. The third theory is that Bishop planted the egg - claiming it took an hour to align the dish and the flight time of the rescue craft, he grabs the eggs in his extra time and places them on the ship. Bishop never shows any anti-alien points and he's a company android, the problem in Alien was the android trying to get the alien on board (hence overriding safety protocols)

[@KhaosFrosty]

Reason for why the Xenomorph Queen would have laid eggs during her rampage is probably because she might have been reaching the end of her lifespan. It could mirror how the Xenomorph in Alien was also reaching the end of its lifespan by the end (As envisioned by Ridley Scott).

[@KhaosFrosty]

@@Gobtik Newt could have gotten impregnated while she was in the Queen's chamber before Ripley arrived. I don't know about the Bishop thing though. His model of android was fitted with behavior inhibitors to prevent him from hurting humans or letting them be hurt in his presence.

[@CodyChromeBand]

This film is great, sorry if it made you uncomfortable

[@thecatfather857]

I guess that’s the main reason why it was widely panned.

[@stanstanev2656]

Alien : suspence,Aliens: action,Alien 3 : tragedy ,Alien:Resurrection: gore

[@KriegZombie]

As a man of culture I enjoy them all.

[@IncPoint]

It should be Alien Resurrection: garbage

[@TomOostenrijk]

I don't think any of the Alien movies are bad. Alien, Aliens, Resurrection, Alien 3. In that order. The Prometheus movies were horrible.

[@Akumetsubg]

horror,action,drama,comedy

[@TheBraunMachine2011]

​@Osman Yousif I do, they should've released that version in theaters. Alien 3 gets way too much hate IMHO. I thought the acting was great especially from Weaver, Dutton, Dance & Henriksen.

[@timothy3732]

Rip and the rest made it back to earth where they became a family. This is just nightmares she is having.

[@tarantulagirl]

Yeah I read that canon too, so they could bring Newt and Hicks back, wish they’d made the Blomkamp version instead.

[@sixmint2904]

Maybe they could make like those modern-retro movies where they follow the timeline of a movie that came out 20-30 years ago and make a movie that follows said timeline. For this example they could make ripply wake up in a pod, then waking up the others. They make it to earth, but unfortunately another alien that came with the queen was hidden inside the ship. And it would then terrorize the cities of earth, picking off tons of people, and having enough food to somehow begin reproducing. A massive alien infestation occurs and they have to block entrance and exit to and from earth. Finally it gets too bad and they have to destroy the planet, but ripply remembers that something super important is on earth that can kill all the aliens without destroying the planet, she is sent down there but doesn’t have enough time before the destruction, and barely makes it out alive.

[@chanbara8683]

@@sixmint2904 covid...

[@sixmint2904]

@@chanbara8683 oh wow I had absolutely no idea that existed

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

Even though I would love that Dwayne and Newt survive I think they're only saying it was a dream recently to try to distance themselves from the film and it's fan's disapproval.

[@AstroNerdBoy]

I remember being so excited for this movie after its first teaser trailer (Aliens coming to Earth). Even after hearing it would be changed a bit, I was still excited. However, by the time the opening sequence of this film was done, the movie was dead to me.

[@Juice0fTheBarley]

Thank you so much for calling him Massive Headwound Harry.

[@IrishCarney]

Really shows the power of names to shape someone's destiny, but you have to question his parents' benevolence and judgement.

[@androzani84productions85]

If you think about it, the prisoners are a who’s who of actors who’ve been in Doctor Who at some point.

[@CharlieQuartz]

This sentence is more than 15% who

[@luckyspurs]

One who's actually been Doctor Who.

[@sdfkjgh]

Dr. Who Goes to Whoville. Surprise twist: The Grinch is actually a Sycorax!

[@Wickerrman]

Some great British actors in there, for sure. I never realised the actor that played Varys was in it tho!

[@pinktribble]

@@Wickerrman He wasn't, the guy just looks like him.

[@robertcorbett9455]

I love this movie. Sure its not quite as good as the first 2, sure it seemed sloppy, but all the actors brought their A game. And it was a great ending.

[@vastotales4431]

Since you mentioned *Jason X* can you sin it next.

[@snookyzun6158]

Yes that movie was stupid

[@TeslasTacos]

Yo wtf

[@TeslasTacos]

12 hours ago???

[@markryan5793]

WilliamZombee think people get early access if they subscribe to the cinemasins patreon or something

[@mullaoslo]

There is nothing wrong with Jason X!

[@jojoyoyo100]

I thought KZbin was recommending this because I just watched this movie. Until I realized this just came out today. What a mindfuck

[@VonWenk]

My favorite part of the movie was Alien POV shots in the tunnels-although, admittedly, I did not understand what the plan was. Also, I'd completely forgotten that Pete Postewaite was in this.

[@matthewtuckey]

The alien had no eyes though. This made the least sense in the whole franchise.

[@personM4N]

"14 seconds of logo and new title before the actual 18 minutes of sinning starts! *ding* "

[@hemorrhaginghamster]

Dude, any further comments under Cinemasins videos are fighting for the second place from now on.

[@ryantafoya487]

@@hemorrhaginghamster who's first?

[@jasonblalock4429]

12:33 Space Quest IV? Holy crap, that's a deep dive of a reference. Nice call.

[@ceelist]

Literally came to the comments just to see if anyone else caught this reference 😂

[@tbirddddd]

@@ceelist We're glad you could play Space Quest IV! As usual, you've been a real pantload!

[@EChacon]

Do an Everything Wrong with Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow.

[@tristanhoffmeyer8407]

That movie is a masterpiece.

[@LadyOnikara]

It has been a LONG ass time since I saw that movie. And I know we have it on DVD so, why has it been a long time?

[@YouLousyKids]

That movie was brilliant and problematic. I love the homages to things like the Mechanical Men from the Superman Fleischer cartoons, but in the end it's a bunch of actors against greenscreen and it has all the problems that entails. Still...it may have the most brilliant ending of ANY movie, and I stand by that statement. "Lens cap." Man!

[@fishmanfairclough7530]

@@YouLousyKids Sky captain and League of extraordinary gentlemen are 2 of my guilty pleasures.

[@justanothergabs4710]

i just watched the special edition and i gotta say, this movie is actually really good, possibly the most character driven alien out of the first three movies, my only complaint is that they kill off the cast of Aliens, but honestly, even with that choice in the script, what they did with Ripley in this setting was shockingly good, her grief and struggle culminating in her sacrifice and the slow bonding between her and the inmates, Dillon's pride with keeping Ripley alive but killing the thing was awesome, it was a very character driven movie. to me it's like this: Alien is a horror movie, with a great setting, and passable characters, Aliens is awesome, be it the horror element that was dialed down, but the character interactions are kind of fun and the last segment is awesome, Alien 3 is a character conclusion for Ripley, i don't know about Alien 4 as i will still watch it but the appreciation this movie got with the special edition is definitely warranted, given that i have a bias towards character studies i would say this is my favorite out of the three.

[@bunnybro5977]

This channel's basically become my way of watching movies I think are not worth the two hours to sit through

[@DamienAzreal]

Love how he says "Everyone survives this" in the explosion in the hallway... Yet, in the next scene they flatout say several died in it.

[@neilholmes8200]

Typical cinema sins style, come up with a sin, see something that contradicts that sin 5 minutes later, don't bother to go back and edit the video, just sin both

[@Paulafan5]

They're getting lazy. I mean, it's stated clearly several people died in that explosion. It's like sinning the alien for using stealth. It always uses stealth.

[@135Fenrir]

He also said it OVER a death scream, lmao. I am waiting with bated breath for The Birdman to do this one. Between the two of them and Cinema Wins, it is a Trifecta of Humor, Critique and Sins.

[@martinnaranjo3185]

I'm sorry CinemaSins, but not even Jeremy's voice would make me go through this train-wreck again

[@beckettmaffei]

This has potential for a top comment, edit the comment and add "go" where you forgot it!

[@THEJMAROCK91]

You are God damn right son

[@TheBraunMachine2011]

The film is flawed af & gets way too much hate but still better than most movies out these days IMHO.

[@Webber-sr3xk]

Watch the assembly cut

[@phoebegreig6523]

Jokes on you Cinema Sins! The U.K calls Aluminium Foil Tin Foil.. so take that sin back! 😂

[@The-Almighty-Whitey]

A lot of Americans call it tin foil as well.

[@vybezD]

Also called tin foil in alot of former british colonies like Canada and Jamaica.

[@EmptyAltruism]

Ive got uk friends that say "aluminium" and i always have to pause for a minute to translate in my head...oddly, i think it sounds better that way, im just used to aluminum

[@3218675309]

He said the pronunciation of the word aluminum in England. Referring to English saying “aluminium” instead of “aluminum”. You added the word “foil”.

[@conrad3578]

Trying to correct cinema sins plus 4 sins

[@xvxvcaspervxvx]

Damn, I forgot Tywin Lannister was in this movie! Good to see his career got ALOT better after this movie!

[@dflaton]

I really like this movie. Especially knowing what it could have been if Fincher had more clout when it was made.

[@curtisleblanc5897]

what was it gonna be?

[@RandomShinigami7]

I’m just going to say this then bounce, I liked Alien 3. It’s not as good as Alien or Aliens, not even close, but it’s a perfectly OK movie. The Assembly Cut is the better version though.

[@AdamG1983]

Where can I find that?

[@eathotdog]

@@AdamG1983 yeh gotta be a pirate matey.

[@MJG2012]

AdamG1983 it’s on the Blu-ray release (may be referred to as the Workprint Version)

[@RandomShinigami7]

AdamG1983 Oh hi! Sorry for the late reply, KZbin decided to not notify me of responses to this. The Blu Ray has both the Theatrical Cut and the Assembly Cut.

[@hcaz5818]

The atmosphere, soundtrack, and prison planet location are amazing in this movie. Still lots of problems tho

[@adriantamzarian9252]

One request: DodgeBall: A True Underdog Story

[@xbfalcon83]

unsinnable

[@MrBoyYankee]

@@xbfalcon83 You damn right!!!

[@GeeVanderplas]

Only one sin: not enough balls or wrenches to the groin!

[@YouLousyKids]

The only sin with that is the fact they didn't go with the original ending.

[@aaronsmith3484]

I love alien 3 it’s really gritty and dark can understand why people don’t like it though very different flow from aliens.

[@ralphrombauts6769]

Everything wrong with Aliens 3: -It exists -No Newt and Hicks because... -Off screen deaths

[@Anubis30224]

Dude, could you imagine if Newt and Hicks were in this movie? Like holy crap! It would've been great!

[@petercampi2840]

@@Anubis30224 I mean, the original scripts by William Gibson (1987/88) focused on Hicks, Newt (briefly), and Bishop. I personally consider the Gibson scripts my own personal canon, and luck has it that the Alien RPG allows for it too!

[@RJIS]

-It's fucking boring -It's stupid -Crappy characters -Clunky plot -Mediocre editing

[@lostlegend2197]

Please do Everything Wrong With Little Shop of Horrors (1986)

[@goORIOLES236]

Nothing. There’s nothing wrong with Little Shop of Horrors (1986)

[@anubusx]

Feed me!!!

[@wcoleman99]

The only sin is not going with the alternate ending

[@EmptyAltruism]

Silly legend, theres nothing wrong with that movie except they didnt go with the original ending

[@wcoleman99]

I will say much of a joy as Feed Me is to sing, I always liked I'm the dentist better. So thanks Steve Martin.

[@KiRA-ns2pw]

"Recording a Tiktok" I spat out my water

[@youngsirzo]

Sinful as shit

[@gillianfleischer5620]

I’m the only one out of my friends who doesn’t use the app, I don’t see what makes it so appealing

[@Scifogon]

@@gillianfleischer5620 What makes it appealing is that it's bullshit

[@GreatOldOne9866]

2:05 no, sins. Tywin Lannister owns everything he’s in.

[@erikeverson7812]

No no. He's the villain from Last Action Hero. Weren't you listening?

[@hansgrueber8169]

@@erikeverson7812 HE"S THE HAND OF THE KING!!!!

[@JustKelso1993]

@@hansgrueber8169 He is still rotting on the crapper.

[@evyalley]

5:31 this is probably my favorite sin you have ever done on any of these videos. It’s absolutely hilarious. The throwbacks, the writing, the delivery 😂😂

[@PeakedInterest]

The brits dont "add" any cyllables to words - americans remove them. 1 Cinema Sin for cinemasins

[@letired]

That description of that guy's voice is spot on. Props to whoever pointed that out.

[@TeslasTacos]

HOW IS THIS 15 HOURS AGO

[@LeeBankai]

....time travel. Duh.

[@totallynottino4099]

This dude is the only one allowed to say "First"

[@cometzcriticz9933]

huh?

[@kb-ey2vc]

how is it.....15 hours ago

[@WeApOnPrImE]

I feel like we need a sinning of the Assembly Cut of this film. It makes so much more sense than the theatrical version. Please Cinema Sins? You did it for BvS!

[@WeApOnPrImE]

@Osman Yousif I know you're just nitpicking my comment, but seriously, its a completely different movie. I think it needs it.

[@mullaoslo]

I still love this movie, both versions.. It's not as good as the first two but the behind the scenes is fascinating I think they did good with what they had

[@illumi9044]

They made the second movie meaningless

[@triples8554]

are you sure its not a love hate? glad we got a 3rd way back, but didnt enjoy what they did. each there own

[@JohnyG29]

It's awful.

[@mullaoslo]

@Ken Lombardi I'm leaning towards the assembly cut but I do love the shot of the chest burster.

[@TheBraunMachine2011]

Midtoker Marius Same here. Alien 3 (Assembly Cut) is severely underrated and gets way too much hate. Yes, it has some flaws but I think it's more like people wanted to see an Aliens 2 instead of an Alien 3, they wanted to see another action film with more marines fighting aliens again. And they were disappointed that they got a film with a slow build like the original with one alien picking them off and the characters having very little weapons to fight it. It's a shame that Fincher disowned it because it's still honestly one of my favorite films of his. And still one of the first films I think of when I see him. The theatrical cut had some good things in it especially the ending but I much preferred the Assembly Cut, you know more about what's going on. Morse letting the alien loose among other things, there was too much cut out from the film making the theatrical cut confusing at times. There's a KZbinr named LittleJimmy835 has the best take on the film IMHO, check it out here, great video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIrIoKx5ZbaJZ9k

[@Vaporvice84]

As kids, my brother and I watched Alien 3 just as much as the first 2 (this was before any further sequels had been made yet). Up to that point no movie we had seen had that many F-bombs in it (72 IIRC), and we thought it was hilarious. For as dark and depressing as the movie is, my brother and I laughed through a lot of it.

[@Tim_the_Enchanter]

It's a good thing there isn't an actual combination of Eric Idle and Peter Cook running around, else we would all be dead from laughter.

[@NewMessage]

"...the bad guy from Last Action Hero and Zuul." Worse... it's Numpsay and Zuul! I better make a call....

[@anumeon]

Also,, bad scientist guy from Space Truckers... (Ohh, i really want a cinemasins for Space Truckers)

[@thomasbowling7458]

And father lanister

[@blackonyx1]

@@mooseontheloose-2531 I just want some chips....I want some chips!!!

[@tarantulagirl]

Brian Glover was a highly respected actor in the UK.

[@mugwump539]

And a wrestler, and a school teacher. Great bloke :)

[@kaitlyn__L]

Yeah, as a Brit, his voice just sounded like a hard man who was just straining his voice to shout. I've heard plenty other people in real life with voices similar to his. Which got me wondering, was it the accent that the sin writers couldn't get past? Or do people really just not have voices like that in the USA? Is it maybe a matter of other cultural reasons making it harder for Americans to take him seriously that stops other American people with similar voices from trying to be intimidating? Am I reading too much into one sin joke?

[@itriggerpeople4433]

Man this movie was DARK even compared to the other films

[@jacksputrid]

I KNOW wasn’t it GREAT

[@EmptyAltruism]

TRIGGERED!!

[@HS2comedy]

I am binging all the movies right now and this is great. I agree that alien > aliens > alien3 > resurrection, but enjoy them all! - Andrew

[@kathrynmckenzie9095]

You should do Steven Kings Dreamcatcher.

[@matta6663]

I’ve been asking for this video since fucking Middle School, now I just got my Associates Degree. smh

[@claymccoy]

0:45 - Yes, THAT David Fincher.

[@EvillBob]

He pretty much said that nobody hates Alien 3 more than him.

[@Carl_with_a_k_]

I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS and he finally did it

[@Thaistickthai]

Its crazy how you forget stars are in movies till they find their breakout roles, totally woulda called bs if you told me Charles Dance was in this movie. And being wrong I would ante up because I always pay my debts

[@chanbara8683]

U still owe me 8o bucks wtf..lol

[@Thaistickthai]

@@chanbara8683 shit my bad. Just dm me your cc number, expiration, cvs code, billing zip, mothers maiden name, birthday, social security number and I'll be sure to pay that right away

[@charlesh7962]

I've heard that phrase " Charles in charge " so much, but it stills makes me laugh.

[@screwypuppy]

I dare you to do Chris Elliot's "Cabin Boy." Heck, I just dare you to watch the movie. (It's apologetically bad. I love it.)

[@Vintage-28]

Classic

[@jdfromparis6230]

9:34 this shot always reminds me of a similar shot in SE7EN when John Doe puts his gun against Brad Pitt's face.

[@amoscaul3264]

Maybe that's Fincher crafting his style gradually.

[@RedHeadKevin]

Ahh, I remember the trailer showing this scene, promising "The Bitch is back." And then it showed a picture of Earth. Frickin' liars.

[@janklowicz24]

Whatever else one may say, the Art Direction was ahead of its time; Half the movies from 1999 and 2000 owe this a big debt!

[@nathaniliescu4597]

14.54 - it's Bill Tench from Mindhunter.

[@williammatthews693]

Say what you will but Charles Dance delivering that speech about why he ended up in prison was great and should not have been skipped!

[@Sunprism]

I mean, Aliens always come from small holes in the body and grow enormous...Did y'all forget chest bursters are a thing?

[@WATCHINGTHEWATCHERS]

The dog Xenomoph grows about 10 times faster then one from a human.

[@avecas]

What he meant was how ridiculously large the alien starts out. It's born like half the size of the dog, which makes no sense considering the dog has...yknow, organs and stuff.

[@origami83]

In the first alien it starts as a small chest burster and we find shedded skin and pets are missing. So its feeding on smaller prey and growing. In alien 3 its just large all of the sudden, with no food sources to get bigger.

[@WATCHINGTHEWATCHERS]

@@origami83 The alien Xenomoph does not need sustenance from flesh creatures to grow. It is like a machine and grows mainly from taking nutrients from water and possibly air growing from basic elements in its environment.

[@WATCHINGTHEWATCHERS]

@@origami83 The Xenomoph creature is like a machine, it does not need sustenance from flesh creatures to grow it simply use them as a growing environment and adapts to the host. If a human development is over 10 times that of a dog so there for the Xenomoph grows over 10 times faster.

[@bobfleischmann5208]

I saw Alien 3 in theaters and actually enjoyed it! It had a different tone that the previous two. Sure, CGI has aged poorly, but the story is good and it holds up to the lore established from the beginning.

[@samueljeshurunlamechp9894]

You obviously did not see the first two alien movies before this...

[@-.-.11]

@@samueljeshurunlamechp9894 No, he did. I seen them as well and I like this film. It’s not as good as Aliens but it’s a great end to the Alien saga.

[@RuberDildo]

It's a stupid end and not canon.

[@gabrielloko30000]

I can feel "You should watch The Assembly Cut" comments coming in And....Is kinda right

[@franohmsford7548]

It's just as bad! Changing the Dog to a Cow isn't fixing anything! The very premise of Alien3 is Phucked from the get-go! It''s the plot/story of this film that people HATE! Better direction, acting, Cinematography etc. doesn't do a damn thing to fix the Godawful story that shat on the franchise!

[@wabba67]

@@franohmsford7548 Well, the Assembly Cut does fix this movie, mostly. For example, the whole trapping the xenomorph scene actually makes sense now. In terms of story, well, I like it. It is bleak. While arguably killing Hicks and Newt off screen is a pretty weird move, it does set the tone for the film immediately.

[@TheBraunMachine2011]

​@@franohmsford7548 Honestly, Alien 3 isn't a bad film IMHO, AvP2 was way worse if you want to be honest, FOX fucked the film by putting out the release date before it was finished & constantly interfering, it's a miracle the Assembly Cut is any good. And tbh, Alien: Resurrection was much worse because it was made into a comedy. Most people thought A3 was "too depressing & bleak" so they made A4 into a black comedy of sorts, that's why most people enjoyed that more than A3 because it had guns, action, shootouts, comedy and more aliens to keep them interested. All of the Alien films were different, if Alien 3 was like Aliens, which most people wanted, it would've been the same thing, another sci-fi action film complete with more guns, more marines and xeno fights, basically Aliens 2 and they got a film that was more in line with the first Alien with just one alien picking them off and them having very little weapons to fight it. I mean, I hated that Newt & Hicks died but I really wouldn't want to see Newt in a prison colony filled with rapists and murderers, not to mention that Carrie Henn had aged since 1986 and fans wouldn't have accepted a recast. The story was the alien as well as The Company were the reasons why Ripley lost so much. She lost her friends, she missed out on her daughter's life, she had something with Hicks & Clemens and they're killed too. Alien 3 was all about Death, AR was about Rebirth, Aliens was about Life (Ripley/Newt suffered a loss & gained a new family) and Alien is about Birth (Kane's son). Even though I enjoyed A4, the franchise should've ended with A3 (Assembly Cut). It gets way too much hate. It's not for everyone but I think it's the most underrated film Fincher's done IMHO.

[@CLuvTV]

Honestly my favorite parts of this flick were the music, visuals, Ripley of course and all the Charlessss

[@kt9166]

I remember I saw this in the theater on first release, and liked it very much. Now, after thinking about it and seeing the DVD and assembly cut, not such a big fan. But it still has some very good things in it, like Charles Dance, Charles S. Dutton, Pete Postlethwaite, and Ripley's sacrifice.

[@Syntaxerrortwenetyone]

Cinemasins: *gets new intro* Me, an origional fan: OoOoOoooOoOoOOOOOooooOooOoOoooOoooOoOooOoO

[@EmptyAltruism]

I thought about jokingly sinning your typo, but no one likes a grammar nazi. If only we could round them all up, like in a camp or something...

[@sqeekeezthehamster1116]

I like the old intro

[@portalj123]

Sqeekeez the hamster i godda acrea

[@berengustav7714]

"ToO mAnY sEcONds oF lOgos!!" Me: You have become the very thing you swore to destroy!!

[@ScottKorin]

If you are an original fan, you'd know the new intro has been around several months at this point

[@LazarheaD]

I still like Alien 3, it's a different take on the franchise. Maybe not entirely for the better, but I like it enough.

[@dannydan7238]

Yeah same

[@jeremybk54]

@Sharkzilla3000 the only one i can't is Resurrection. i'd also add covenant to that, but i never had the time to go see it so i don't know how i feel about that one

[@jasonblalock4429]

Yeah. It's really a testament to David Fincher's raw talent that Alien3 is actually pretty watchable, despite Fox doing literally EVERYTHING they possibly could to fuck it up. Merely being mediocre is a triumph compared to the giant flaming dog poo it should've been.

[@chrisk5204]

I'm sure I'm the odd man out here, but I like Alien 3. But to each his own.

[@Hunter12396]

its the best one damnit!

[@LordPrometheous]

I liked it, too. Resurrection wasn't very good--it was weird, but I still watch it. I have to watch all the originals back to back over a couple days. Same with Star Wars, can't just watch one.

[@eyespy3001]

Same here. I saw it opening night with my mother (I was 11 or 12), and we both loved it. I still do to this day.

[@ineedmoney4614]

Chris K I respect tf outta it

[@neilholmes8200]

You're not the only one. Alien 3 isn't really that bad and has some good points. You can definitely tell that it might have been even better if Fincher had been able to realise his full vision. Its certainly better than AR and the less said about AVP the better.

[@tbirddddd]

A Space Quest IV reference? Clearly you are a man of impeccable culture and taste.

[@deejin25]

The thing that bugged me was that they made a bunch of money in the first movie, they used it to bring incredible cast, production value, exciting writing, great props and effects for their time to make a second movie which made even more money, then made this... Ill casted, got rid of the best supporting characters and the sets and props were a monotone drab, broom closet. The mere fact they didn't even bother making a proper name for it showed they were slipping.

[@mets78]

Answer: EVERYTHING! (I say this as a blanket statement without regard for anyone else who may have enjoyed it because I'm petty and wasted good allowance money to see it in the theater)

[@autumbreeze1129]

Have to agree. This movie is literally just a shitty fanfiction made into a full movie

[@gillianfleischer5620]

Yeah the first one was my favorite cause of the suspense and because of the wonderful visuals, the second one was great just not my cup of tea cause I’m not really a fan of action movies, but this one was just terrible, idk what went wrong but it went very very wrong, past the point of no return.

[@Tempusmon]

@@autumbreeze1129 This movie started the trend of half-assed films solely created to milk the franchise dry, I doubt it even had the passion of a fan fiction writer behind it.

[@canebro1]

You are correct, this was really bad. The first was good but not my cup of tea. The second was really good. And I found the fourth quite enjoyable.

[@mets78]

@@autumbreeze1129 I was excited because I lived and breathed the first 2 movies growing up and was finally old enough to see an Alien movie in the theater. It lost me literally within the first 5 minutes and just down from there. I still remember my initial reaction clear as day.

[@bradders9743]

Don’t disrespect Brian Glover, that guys a national treasure

[@paulnash9851]

Damn straight, !!!

[@doryanburlison6998]

Which one is Brian Glover?

[@masere]

Brian Glover us the bald prison warder. He was in An American Werewolf In London telling the joke about the alamo

[@johnpersonage7220]

Absolutely. He read a book once. Green it was.

[@EvilBrit89]

Pump your brakes kid!

[@bellemane5839]

2:00 Holy SHIT, is that Tywin Lannister? That should’ve been a sin removal!

[@jemworld]

Charles Dance is quite a well-established actor outside Game of Thrones lol

[@dr.cliche7560]

@@jemworld I'd completely forgotten he was even in this movie, though.

[@akosbarati2239]

Imagine a world where you get into GoT because you like bewbs and explosions, and when you see Charles Dance, and all you watched were action movies, he's the actor with the funny eye from Last Action Hero. For anybody else, he's a complete legend, and from what I watched, he was the most camp in The Golden Child.

[@mrbojangles8133]

the aliens waited for them to set the traps up because aliens have good manners, and it's very rude to interupt people when they're working

[@mouse2689]

Dude the call back to the line from "The Town" instant gut wrenching tears 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂