Everything Wrong With Battlefield 2042's Weapons Part 1

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[@Katurodrake]

240B is around 26lbs unloaded. Can you lift it? Yes. Can you shoulder fire it? Even though the official military manual for the US Army says you can, it is hard for the average person to do for more than a few seconds. I'd say even if you're a peak athlete, you wouldn't want to, you'd just burn your arms out really fast.

[@deebo9981]

If I recall the 240B is roughly 30lbs. loaded, You can shoulder it but due to the length and weight distribution it is very difficult, and meant to fired from the prone anyway. I have shouldered it, and even as a lifetime weightlifter and machinegunner it is incredibly hard to sustain. Even basic maneuvering is pretty difficult, it's like running around with a barbell.

[@depressedhans5142]

@@deebo9981 at least M60 can't be call "The Pig" for now

[@trevorm0329]

That's why I like the mmg mechanics in bfv

[@Gameprojordan]

@Depressed Hans the m60 was actually light for a GPMG at 21 pounds, and was pretty easy to shoulder fire, relatively speaking.

[@depressedhans5142]

@@Gameprojordan yes i know but the Marine back in Nam have a reason to name the gun like that

[@saber_2_6]

Never thought the day would come where Battlefield's animations would reach an all time low

[@kivanolte3333]

Yeah okay I wasn’t crazy other people agree. It’s embarrassing that I’ve seen and used Garry’s Mod custom weapons that had more love and care put into them.

[@ElViperr408]

Yea it’s cause there’s two teams that do animation. One for portal and one for 2042

[@kazumasato8737]

@@kivanolte3333 that’s because those are weapon mods dice makes a whole game also portal animations are older than most people playing this game

[@yuuyakizami2133]

Don't forget, most of the 2042 guns (not portal) has *futuristic power rails*

[@DeckerClemente]

It makes a bit of sense for the setting

[@NOTH4R]

I mean, i really don't like the whole " all weapons use the same future rail system " but i can see the setting working out

[@giahuynguyenkim6389]

@@NOTH4R bruv, picatinny rails

[@Jayalen]

To be fair, it's 2042.

[@joshuahilliker2364]

@@segarallychampionship702 Maybe they’re held somewhere in the stock for the rifles, but I don’t know where the pistols’ batteries would be, or where they’d be on a stockless/wire stock firearm.

[@n1n0000]

all the portal guns were animated by interns

[@Souls_25]

Exactly

[@aMiyafuji]

A really good portion of them takes an animation from an already existing 2042 gun. Game was rushed as fuck with people who have no clue what they're doing and it *REALLY* shows

[@Complete_Stranger7050]

AAA Companies really needs to stop hiring flash games creators

[@francosayone9393]

@@Complete_Stranger7050 AAA companies should be nuked

[@andrewmarston9163]

Man it's like the objects were pulled from code of previous titles and just painted over with the new look

[@lazerquest3264]

1 step forward, 2042 steps back.

[@deadwing7051]

Every single weapon hogs a crazy amount of screen-space. They all feel off, it wouldn't surprise me if the scale is borked

[@TheDAWinz]

I can make a pass on the M2, seeing that M1s could be field upgraded with one part to become M2s.

[@docternoblex]

4:59 the Marlin 336c can chamber .45-70 7:33 it is possible if the bolt track is worn out, which doesn’t take long for it to happen 8:07 it’s not a Glock 18, it’s a Glock 57 silly

[@munanchoinc]

1. The Marlin 336 i mentioned was the Dark Series variant which is chambered in almost every other cartridge other than .45-70. The 45-70 was mostly used by the 1895. 2. Fair point although it's probably an animation error. 3. It's clearly based on the Glock 18.

[@docternoblex]

@@munanchoinc the dark series does have a 45-70 option available

[@munanchoinc]

@@docternoblex if that's the case then i had a mistake. I based my info on listed cartridges from the Marlin Firearms website. Although like i said. The shape of the ejection ports indicate it was based on the 30-30 Wichester variant.

[@docternoblex]

@@munanchoinc well if it was the ejection port then yeah, that was an oversight on my part

[@KoSmiC_WarFarE4750]

@@munanchoinc How come the G57 gets a sin for firing in bursts? It’s a fictional variant from the future, if Glock themselves reaches 57 then you can complain about the 57, but right now, it doesn’t exist.

[@BustyCatbot]

Imagine adding the Garand to your game and you literally don't know what Garand thumb is and why it happens, one of the most memorable aspects of the weapon

[@TheWhoamaters]

I like how their M240 is just wrong. Imagine if the M4 had the mag slapped in the ejection port

[@alexvisser5913]

Man bf5 did better with the ww2 guns wtf

[@chesi_7_0_79]

BF5 is heaven compared to 2042, hell I don't even care if there's women with titanium arms fighting for the British anymore lol

[@the_ur3an_myth]

One of the animators for BFV's guns did some of the 2042 weapons and some movement animations (not all tho). Portal's guns were done by a separate (and supposedly inexperienced team)

[@Canadian_Ale]

I love how they messed up the M1 Garand so bad yet they pretty much got it accurate in battlefield 5 which was made by the exact same company😂

[@sussyman9034]

The portal reloads were not made by Dice

[@vauxittt]

@@sussyman9034 like that makes a difference, with how often the staff at DICE changes. "DICE ain't what it used to be"

[@MultimediaNeon]

The fact that this is part 1 scares me

[@DerpHWimbleton]

Oh boy, I wonder how they'll mess up 2143's weapons if they ever decide to finally make that game.

[@Phenixtri]

ammo belt on the m60 isnt even animated when firing ...

[@damascussteel7688]

fun fact, pistols in general are technically bullpup since the magazine is behind the trigger

[@TheDeathMedic]

Death Grips intro is back. This series will be a good time, I can feel it.

[@MahoNishizumifrfr]

GUILLOTINE

[@Spookoffi]

the cure to touching play on bf2042 is playing battlefield 2

[@VisibleToeHead]

Seeing the futuristic weapons just makes me want BF 2142

[@fadhilahzaidan4946]

Same,EA should have abandon capitalism and never shut down the older BF games like BF2142.

[@TheWhoamaters]

So much of the functionality that they got wrong here is stuff that we overlooked like 10 years ago, but now? It's just sad

[@HStahlberg]

You can open the top cover on the M60 without charging it if you're partial reloading since the bolt is already back because the gun is open bolt, however if you notice in the game when the cover is opened no matter what the little roller is forward indicating the gun isn't cocked...

[@lock3down26]

There's a lot of animation mistakes in the guns. To be fair on the guns that don't exist or are cursed, this is set on a fictionalized future that somehow has Russia as the rival superpower even though China would probably be the more logical rival to the US even after that whole civil war thing back in BF4.

[@3dfu697]

21 hrs is not as bad compared to my 200+ hrs of pure agony from launch

[@SD-ss9gh]

Also the panzer schrek is missing is face shield. That was to prevent the operator from getting melted.

[@munanchoinc]

Not really. This variant was based on the early models.

[@SD-ss9gh]

@@munanchoinc they probably did that to save time and reasources, ei they were lazy.

[@munanchoinc]

@@SD-ss9gh Not really. They already had a cut RPzB 54 Panzershrek model from BFV's cut competitive mode. This model was the same model used in Battlefield 1942. The RPzB 43 variant Panzerschreck .

[@moorusfaan5464]

The very first one is incorrect. The M1 will not instantly slam home a bolt on a clean well kept rifle.

[@TrasteIAm]

This is soo needed! I think you should do one on all the gear. People will never learn what it is to be in real war while playing games if the dev keep neglecting the details.

[@cajohnson130]

Have you considered people want to play a game and not have it simulate a real war? Games are to have fun. Real war is hell on earth.

[@sirnitnerolf5972]

The Rorsh MK4 is also an insult in itself to the original Rorsh MK1 from Battlefield 4.... I think this should count as a sin X)

[@fadhilahzaidan4946]

Don't forget that Battlefield 2142 has a mounted Rorsch railgun.

[@svega1974]

All problems with weapons of 2042 1. everything.

[@GatorDontPlayNoShit69]

Poor bastard had to click play

[@brokenpotato438]

pray for him 🙏

[@munanchoinc]

(I hated every second playing this game.)

[@a.g.m8790]

The ballistics in 2042 are.. interesting. I’ve been cheesed out of hits that were dead on and given headshots that were nowhere near the guy let alone their head Also I feel like a cheating asshole when I use my .50 w/ ironsights and drill through a whole squad of mfs w/ 100% accurate hipfire. The game is weird

[@sfsnowy0662]

I love watching his video where he go over everything wrong about the gun in game.

[@randomuser3875]

4:18 I understood that reference 🤣🤣🤣

[@jacobgalfi1420]

All the belt fed MGs in this game are also animated as closed bolt guns when they should be open bolt.

[@jamesgrose510]

It's been a while since I shot an M240B, but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to let the charging handle (and bolt) fly forwards when cocking it. It's supposed to be locked to the rear in proper use.

[@croskerk]

As a person who enjoys some bullpups ever made. Such as P90, AUG, Tavor, RDB, and such... Bullpup shouldnt touch pistols. Then people made bullpup pistols

[@kazumasato8737]

You could say every pistol is Bullpup but I mean it doesn’t meet the requirements

[@ElViperr408]

Can you do a video on a game that has almost perfect guns on how they are supposed to work

[@marinlukacek7821]

FH2 does it better

[@jacobgalfi1420]

The bolt on an M1 dosent always go forward on its own. I have an M1 and it's kept well and always clean yet most of the time when I load it I have to push the bolt handle.

[@The.George]

As per that Garand sin, tapping the bolt to send it into battery should't be IMO counted as a sin. Not using the clip release, that's wrong, but if you look at videos by Hickok45, 9HoleReview's Practical Accuracy, Administrative Results, or GunsOfTheWorld, you can see all of them either tugging the bolt handle back, or slapping it forward to give the bolt just the little bit of momentum to overcome the friction within the en-bloc clip. My personal 1955 International Harvester Garand also does this. Amusingly enough, it also depends on whether I load the cartridges into the clip left or right side first. with the left side first loading being harder to insert, but sends the bolt automatically home more often.

[@munanchoinc]

That's why i mentioned "Reproductions or unkempt bolts".

[@The.George]

@@munanchoinc And I'm saying none of those rifles were repros, and mine definitely isn't unkempt lol

[@munanchoinc]

@@The.George i should've clarified it much better. Thanks for the info.

[@traitortothecrown1961]

i'm pretty sure there are m16a3 models that have a safe/semi/burst/auto selector

[@giahuynguyenkim6389]

It's an M4 but there is I remembered

[@munanchoinc]

There are custom AR-15 fire selectors like these but the one in-game only has 3 options not 4

[@amadeusagripino6862]

Everything IS Wrong With Battlefield 2042's Weapons

[@charleshaskell2056]

if he didn't pull back the bolt on the m60 what was that sound that played right before he lifted the cover

[@azeroth9591]

the reload on this game is so ass a PS2 game has better reload animations

[@InHerMajestiesDefense]

the NVK pistol seems to be based off the Alternator from Titanfall.

[@lucagerulat307]

Changing the ammo type doesn't mean you change the ammo size the differents between normal and armour piercing ammo is the material and shape of the bullet but they still fit the same gun.

[@munanchoinc]

The MCX i showed changed the weapon from a rifle caliber AR to a pistol caliber SMG. Also note that the SCAR mags i chose had the label "Heavy" and "Standard" mags. Insinuating that it's supposed to represent the H and L variants even though the L variant used a different magazine and mag well.

[@lucagerulat307]

@@munanchoinc Since nothing really changed with the scar when changing ammo types it's safe to assume they all use the same caliber. M5's smg mag is totally ridiculous no debate necessary. But asuming that the scar uses different calibers and not just different ammo types seems very far fetched.

[@buppy985]

@@lucagerulat307 Bro, the H uses 7x62x51, and the L uses 5.56x45, they are completely different calibers. Like the man said, the L variant uses a different magazine and mag well since 5.56 is a smaller round.

[@lucagerulat307]

@@buppy985 but the game doesn't say the different ammo types change the version of the gun. He just made that up to make it look bad.

[@vikramjadhav3631]

You need to realize that, they can't change the guns in Portal, as they are supposed to act similarly to how they did in the old BF games.

[@marcowulliampopirers2216]

Why do the weapons occupy so much space?like 1/4th of the screen

[@Roach1776]

i only paid $15 for 2042, from the walmart bargain bin lol

[@kazumasato8737]

How can you use weapons from about 2000-2022 With weapons from 2042 and portal animations never got changed

[@michel4rthur]

What you're seeing is advanced warfare.

[@tokestorgaard7823]

doesnt the panzerschrek lack its shield? also the bolt release on the scar is bouncing whilst its firing for some odd reason

[@Horgler]

The Panzerschreck heat shield wasn't added until 1944. The one in game is the RPzB 43 version.

[@p0331546]

1:58 Mp40 fires from an open bolt, the bolt should not be forward! gotcha :D

[@munanchoinc]

No, just no.

[@dlpatechlb]

You know this is bad when you realize that this has different parts

[@DameNaNoYo]

Interesting way to hold a gun 0:03

[@ThatWolfFromHyruleGaming]

In this day and age in gaming, why in the holy mother of f*** are we still talking about hammer fired pistols with their hammers up? What is this, amateur hour? Oh wait, its EA. Slash the dev budget, recycle all the animations and models, slap some new textures on, people will think its new!

[@thenegromancer4695]

Fatshark can animate guns better and that's hilarious to me

[@elenrad8023]

30 secs and you are already mistaken, first of all, it's M block clip and second the bolt is not always closing on insertion, go out and inform you on M1 Garand videos, sometimes you need to help the bolt closing with a little push...

[@munanchoinc]

That's why i mentioned "with exceptions of Reproductions and Unkempt bolts".

[@elenrad8023]

@@munanchoinc For the rest you're pretty much correct. Well done

[@munanchoinc]

@@elenrad8023 Also it's called "En-bloc". It was created by Ferdinand Mannlicher and was expanded upon by Garand. I had never heard anyone call it "M Block"

[@AKK5I]

En bloc

[@elenrad8023]

@@munanchoinc Oh you're right, I'm sorry. I thought I heard M, I'm french that's why 😄

[@omsharma2049]

also they coluld just used the bfv animation for portal

[@shane1489]

I’m just happy for two things. One, it’s finally fun. 2. I got it free from a frustrated person a year ago.

[@chesi_7_0_79]

Good for you it's fun, not for the rest of the hard-core fan base, specially from those like me who's been there since 2142

[@shane1489]

@@chesi_7_0_79 Remember fun is a relative term. Didn’t say better than or perfect. If I was one of the people who loyally paid up to 120 for that mess I would never forgive them.

[@chernobyl306]

Idk why but the belt animation of the M60 when u shoot looks kinda shit ngl, like the thing didn't have the sign of moving or whatsoever, it just standing still and the last couple of rounds just vanish into the vacuum of suckage when you emtied the thing. God EA why? You went from top notch near to real war experience down to a sandbox game with wide maps and nice modded weapons. Boooo

[@aceofspades0074]

Finally.

[@omsharma2049]

why don't they +1 the shotguns anymore

[@thisaccountisuseless864]

oh wow reloads in a small side mode made by an even smaller side dev team with an even smaller section working on reloads of over 40 weapons with an incerdibly short time frame on an unfinished game, I wonder why the reloads aren't 1 to 1 with real life, such a terrible game because of this.

[@D1gg3rX]

Everything i think

[@willianjohnam]

What have they done with Battlefield =( At least I did not buy this heresy disguised as a game.

[@daringdoo6350]

У М60 лента не движется.

[@kivanolte3333]

God watching the animations for these guns reminds me why I stopped playing after an hour. They are so sloppy, they look framey in game like they’re reloading in 30fps or something, the recoil patterns for almost all the guns felt so strange I can’t pin my finger on it they just felt off, the lack of guns compared to other battlefield games, the boring selection of guns we’ve seen almost a million times now. Like god I cant believe DICE is actually sticking with this game, just throw it out, burn it, purge it from existence and make a not shit Battlefield game please Jesus Christ.

[@asddonn]

You forgot to mention after firing a full clip with the m1 garand he ejects a full clip when reloading

[@munanchoinc]

Read the bottom text

[@EasternCoastUSA]

And people wonder why this game is so hated.

[@brokenpotato438]

the gameplay is definetly a bigger reason to hate it than the weapon innacuracies or bugs

[@EasternCoastUSA]

@@brokenpotato438 And also how buggy the whole game is

[@munanchoinc]

1. The game runs like hot garbage. Even with PCs with recommended specs. 2. The gameplay with specialist results in a complete CODification of Battlefield. Close to no teamwork. Movement with no weight or momentum compared to previous games. 3. Downgraded animations.

[@EasternCoastUSA]

@@munanchoinc Which is why I’m playing Battlefield 1 in 2023

[@EasternCoastUSA]

Hell, I’m even playing Battlefield 5 at the moment right now. Cause older Battlefields are so much better than 2042

[@cajohnson130]

Seriously who gives a F? This is battlefield. I don't want 20 second reloading and realism. Go play arma. This is like saying a plumber can't actually jump that high in Mario or people can't wallrun in TF2.

[@passiondono4692]

Opinions like that justify laziness.

[@cajohnson130]

@@passiondono4692 I think you miss my point. Different games give different experiences. Battlefield games are not going for realism or reproducing an experience of real war. Not that they should not try to improve the experience.

[@zvette5]

What a fool enjoy the game have fun

[@nismo3871]

Nothing wrong with these

[@feinschmecker9566]

Game is wrong and you are speaking for guns

[@endless_limes]

2042 is a fun game

[@GazDaLad]

Nah

[@nothere1578]

In another reality

[@lupos-soldier-85]

Nah

[@endless_limes]

@@nothere1578 I'm in that reality

[@lotos_bf]

I don’t understand, you want non realistic game to be realistic? If you want all this stuff to be part of the game, I think you should expect it to be there from games like squad or ready or not, not battlefield, I mean, in game where you can shoot a jet with a grenade launcher and then get inside of your plane and fly away you look for realism?

[@munanchoinc]

Battlefield 1 had the same unrealistic features but had extreme detail when it comes to weaponry. Why can't we have detailed weapons while also being fun?

[@thebigsam]

@@munanchoinc We can't? That's why Battlefield 1 has an atrocious gunplay and boring progression. Looks good, but not fun at all

[@winchester3751]

@@thebigsam filtered