Everything Wrong with Doom Eternal's Mechs

[@MidanMagistrate]

Well Samuel Hayden IS the guy who designed these mechs for ARC, remember, hes the guy that put the BFG-9000 in a bigger frame and called it the BFG-10000 (granted that actually worked)

[@MidanMagistrate]

@Ethan Lackey well yeah but it was essentially just a BFG-9000, but its kinds beautiful in some weird way. The BFG-9000 is so powerful just putting it inside a bigger gun with some focus lenses can make it capable of blasting a hole in mars

[@redsnowleopard]

Edged Piberius NO! You can’t just blast a hole into the surface of Mars!

[@doommaker4000]

@@redsnowleopard What do you mean, I just did

[@LostCauseRT]

Well the BFG 10K its just a chasis for the BFG 9K that uses it as power and amplifies it, works but i want to see a mech taking that like Doom Slayer took the 9K

[@ashori100]

Imagine a ship based around the bfg 10k

[@Bernoris]

Those last two giant mechs feel more like Pacific Rim than the actual new Pacific Rim: Uprising

[@hon3ybear538]

Did spookson look at the mechs in Pacific rim? That would be soooo cool

[@cristianmartinez5612]

@Honey Bear I second that

[@SomberYeti]

The mechs have a Wolfenstein feeling

[@someone2Utoo]

That's because Hugo Martin was a part of Pacific Rim.

[@The_Milio]

He did design the mechas of Pacific Rim (1)

[@rocket_sensha4337]

In the light mech defense. it looks the like arms are suspended so they could be rotated 360° wich paired with the individual sights means it'll be capable of engaging backwards and in multiple direccions without needing to rotate the whole turret / torso.

[@lilith6059]

The turret in the belly is also probably designed to shoot larger demons that latch onto the front in order to get them off much like the carcass demon’s sonic wave belly jiggle thing

[@EgorKaskader]

@@lilith6059 If you look closer there seems to be a rotation mechanism on the top, so it may well be able to rotate to some degree. Not much, perhaps, but some.

[@lilith6059]

Egor Kaskader true, also the hatch on the back being unable to open would probably be more of a blessing to the pilot considering if it gets toppled it means demons have overwhelmed it and that getting out is not an option

[@Assassin5671000]

@@lilith6059 Sure but demons have use plasma as a form's of damage too they can just shoot and melt the pilot. Also the bigger demons like the baron would rip in two

[@gutsandcasca4244]

I thought the same exact thing

[@XZaguer]

"the legs are thicc" - Spookston 2020

[@hermeister3870]

Turns out thicc thighs do save lives huh....

[@lost_to_the_woods]

The biggest problem is I CANT DRIVE THEM SCREEEEE!!!!.

[@deloreanrc]

*Pats on back* One day brother. One day we will take to these mech and bitch slap the demons of Hell with skyscraper sized chainsaws. After all... The Doomslayer has one in his Fortress undergoing repairs.

[@trevorderringer269]

I wish that the Slayer's mech in the Fortress could have been operational,so the first stage of the Icon of Sin fight would be using the mech.

[@plasmaxl8626]

@@trevorderringer269 maybe we'll get the opportunity to kill Satan (or the Doom equivalent) in the next game with it

[@caav56]

@@plasmaxl8626 Dark Lord?

[@plasmaxl8626]

@@caav56 we can only hope...

[@ajwatcher]

Everything Wrong: we never get to use any of them. Even the Sentinel ones.

[@arilox7351]

Maybe in a DLC

[@execration_texts]

I definitely though the on on his ship would end up play ins some kind of role

[@bondrewdthelordofdawn3744]

We see it now

[@robknight666]

At least we got to see some great fighting loops in the angient gods

[@cortster12]

0:41 This man is every 12-year-old kid's spirit animal.

[@additiveartificer9365]

Yes that too my work Ethics

[@idontwanttoputmyname403]

"That's a PROMISE."

[@bombomos]

I know he is my spirit animal lol

[@user-vu9ug4vb3u]

After playing doom i cant say, that any kind of vehicle that uses tracks or wheels is good idea. Just... look around- its all in ruins, debris, everywhere gaint canyons filled with lava. No way something like tank can move there. So, mechs looks like most reliable way to fight in this kind of battlefiled. Oh, almost forget- there IS tanks in doom! You can see them on misson where you first time meet marauder. They looks like small tracks propeled unmanned gauss cannons.

[@daytonsaragosa6790]

I was about to say, yeah the floor is lava. and there is purple goop in some areas that could gunk up tracks quickly, whereas legs act kind of like stilts and keep the most moving parts out of it.

[@cyep_7974]

here are some screenshots of the tank, and oh boy, there is them quad tracks again. cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629288102548209686/694007580732686476/20200329225849_1.jpg cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629288102548209686/694007584151044116/20200329225859_1.jpg cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629288102548209686/694007585098956850/20200329225915_1.jpg cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629288102548209686/694007588366581810/20200329225921_1.jpg

[@daytonsaragosa6790]

@@cyep_7974 oh dang, does that confirm both the original comment and my comment lol?

[@cyep_7974]

@@daytonsaragosa6790 yep, they seem not to have gotten all that far

[@daytonsaragosa6790]

@@cyep_7974 oop. well I imagine whatever makes the purple goo is disgusting

[@rav3727]

Spookston is feeling a bit under the weather... U know what that means? *coronga*

[@ALV694]

That's like the worst thing to say right now

[@kabardino1337]

Ai não dá muleque

[@__resoiution_8740]

The comment was made worse by the *spelling error*

[@noellesato311]

Ébola

[@kabardino1337]

@@__resoiution_8740 hey you fucking mcnugget, that's how we call it we call it the coronga

[@GUNMOFO5]

"Reactors online. Sensors online. Weapons online. *RIP AND TEAR UNTIL IT IS DONE*"

[@LtCWest]

*Hatchetman intensifies*

[@FunkyBaconArts]

Steiner Scout Lance scouting through Hell.

[@erieriderschillingcorner1595]

Is that from mechwarrior?

[@greentjmtl]

Zeromaster: Done.

[@CreeperDude-cm1wv]

Welcome back pilot, are you ready to rip and tear?

[@fadelsukoco3092]

The Sentinel Atlan mechs are powered by refined Hell-magic and built by a space Templar warrior culture. The concept of traditional military vehicles probably never occurred to them since they were uplifted by a godlike alien species when they were at the medieval magic level. So instead of learning how to make reasonable tanks, transports and aircraft, they have armored ogres, giant humanoid mechs, fortified dragons and medieval catapults and trebuchets made of space material that fire energy beams. The Terran small mech was designed by a robot megacorp head whose primary focus and expertise isn’t in military strategy despite being knowledgeable in pretty much everything.

[@omarabe26]

Actually, Argent Energy and Hell magic isn't the same.

[@greentjmtl]

It may not be his expertise, but consider he's been alive for probably hundreds or thousands of millennia, he probably knows more about the subject than anyone else who only lives for minutes from his perspective. And don't forget flying castles.

[@omarabe26]

@TheGarbageGang How? It was created by the Makyrs.

[@dmdizzy]

@@omarabe26 Did you finish the game? Hell energy is created from the souls of sentient beings; the Maykrs only _refined_ that existing Hell energy to create Argent; ergo, Argent energy is human souls.

[@carlosandleon]

@@omarabe26 Also Sentinel Atlans aren't even run by Argent Energy, just pure Sentinel Energy from the Wraiths.

[@bdj_tvk]

7:04 Titans can only die if a Crucible Blade is embedded in them. Ranged against a Titan serves only to slow them.

[@Justowner]

So that neatly explains why the Sentinels made mechs then. If the only way to kill Titans is to stab then the obvious solution is to make bigger stab

[@bdj_tvk]

@@Justowner Yeah, (SPOILER) when you get the Crucible Blade Hayden says that the Titan will reawaken if the blade is removed, so the easy (and only) way to kill them (and the Icon Of Sin) is by using the Crucible Blade(s) which will have to stay embedded.

[@trevorderringer269]

Right, hence the crucible weaponry, and all those abandoned Mechs just standing around, holding their blades in the Titans.

[@bdj_tvk]

@@trevorderringer269 Exactly

[@westwing23]

@@bdj_tvk Unless.. you know, you're the doom slayer using the sentinel mech's giant sword.. im pretty sure it can cut the titan's head off.. So dont think it needs to stay inside.

[@youroverlord6937]

Remember that we are talking about the doomslayer He killed a 2km tall Titan while he was naked Physics does not apply

[@calevoid]

He wasn't actually naked, but he was wearing pants, boots, a helmet, and a chest with shoulders armor.

[@youroverlord6937]

Keilev Pears K

[@AzureScintillae]

He killed 2 titans before, one with crucible and the other before he has it (seen as map in Doom 2016)

[@enverpasha3941]

@@AzureScintillae well actualy that titan is not the champion titan its just a normal titan the titan we are talking about us way bigger and stronger

[@sayorinya5435]

@@enverpasha3941 true but come one, a man who's able to even kill something 20 times bigger than him with his bare hands before getting powers of a seraphim is badass non the less

[@ALV694]

Here are ideas for your next vid Everything wrong with half life 2 combine vehicles Everything wrong with Tau vehicles in Dawn of war

[@512TheWolf512]

Except hl2 vehicles are living being augmented with prosthetics

[@ALV694]

@@512TheWolf512 not the human combine vehicles

[@512TheWolf512]

@@ALV694 the drop pod and the helicopter? I guess there's the APC also, but there's nothing really to say about it except it's too high profile

[@TARINunit9]

I'd love to see him do a Tau video, so that I can then nitpick his nitpicks because I own a lot of the physical models which often have options not shown in the box art

[@pinhe1350]

Metal slug vehicles?

[@PercyTheRogue]

I QUOTE "Velocity isn't important when shooting against flesh." ... okay let me just take a 50 bmg a hammer with a nail welded onto its tip and blast away.

[@michellenich3172]

You have a point but after a while the loss in velocity isn't that big a deal. When you're firing shells the size of a prius out of guns with at least 10 metres of barrel you're gonna get a fair bit of stopping power.

[@bernardli9514]

"Sorry for the voice, I'm feeling a bit under the weather." Welp nice knowing you man.

[@JeanLucCaptain]

DOOM THEME

[@novaseer]

Point on the sentinel mechs you missed: According to Hayden, only crucible blades can kill a Titan, so long range weaponry would more likely be used for crowd control or to distract/stun Titans.

[@jakejones8225]

Any idea about how mech design may change under different gravity or on different planets/situations like on a large sci-fi ish battleship?

[@duncanmcokiner4242]

In lower gravity, you could use heavier armour with no penalty but being larger would still make you a bigger target. So you'd want heavier armour, not necessarily bigger. Though with point defence systems on the tanks, giant tanks could make a comeback in situations like that.

[@zakmackay]

You would just need smaller feet and legs relative to more gravity. Do you mean inside or outside the starship? Inside it would probably be limited to corridor size. It would probably be too small for most mechs and just heavy exo skeletons. Outside point defence weapons and smaller star ships would probably make them not usable. If it's anything like a naval battleship their would be hundreds of small guns to stop them and other threats. Battleships have thick armor so a escort could just shoot the mech off the battleships. Or a bomber or a secondary gun while leaving the main armor intact. I also imagine if boarders where a potential issue battleships would have strong points built in and marines onboard. A cannon could be made to shoot down a hallway at incoming mechs. Or you just lock them in a section. Battleship bulkheads or barbettes where pretty thick to control damage. Sure you could cut a big hole into a barbette to fit a mech in. But their meant to stop battleship sized guns so would take some time. Plenty of time for marines to prefer fortifications or launch a counter attack.

[@nichsa8984]

@@duncanmcokiner4242 company put himself in a dangerous situation as possible to avoid

[@justat1149]

“Everything wrong with Gundam mechs”

[@TheSpartan3669]

Square cube law. End of video

[@killian9314]

I have an easy one. "Just make them of the same thing shields are made off. And put the guns on a rotaring turret. Not a clunky arm

[@jaromswenson7541]

@@TheSpartan3669 out side of "square cube" he can critique the placement of wpns and other such stuff and of course their tactical viability, though it would be hard to do a video since gundam is filled to the brim with mecha that are all different enough from each other to warrant many videos (unless of course he could just do a general points video). I think gundam has decent designs myself (only focusing on the mobile suits...and I'm just leaving out the actual gundams since those things are basically super heroes in a military setting). The issue is their massive weight and their size (would buckle under their own weight and be too big of a target not to miss with evry wpn on the battlefield). So maybe if the mobile suits were a fourth of their original size (that brings them down to 4 or 5 meters). They would be preferable for urban and forest combat (any place with a lot of vertical cover). No open ground or even space combat (tanks and fighters would be too useful for those environments, especially if we get rid of the minosky particle mcguffin).

[@corporategunner5972]

Spookston would spot a lot of impracticalities in the mobile suits

[@LtAlguien]

I would prefer the not mechs vehicles from the OYW (Magella, Type 61, Vulcan Armored Car and the Anti-Zaku Tank) honestly

[@duncanmcokiner4242]

You could shorten this to two words. "They're mechs."

[@pandabuluk]

He makes video about Titanfall's titans and gave them quite a heap of praise for realism.

[@Ayeato]

yeah but that would defeat the whole purpose of the video, hes having a indepth view into the mechs

[@nichsa8984]

@@pandabuluk is from japanse exosuit we knowing

[@LeavingGoose046]

As a comment earlier pointed out, looking at the battlefields of doom eternal mechs would be beneficial over more traditional vehicle designs, what with the lava and purple goop everywhere, as well as the rubble and jagged terrain. Essentially legs would be better than wheels or tracks in these environments.

[@duncanmcokiner4242]

@@LeavingGoose046 We have vehicles for terrain tanks can't cross. They're called aircraft.

[@Aetius_of_Astora]

Hope you get well soon I must ponder wether the sentinel mech is actually a mech and not more of a possessed construct being controlled remotely

[@caav56]

Like the Revenant Drone from the campaign?

[@Aetius_of_Astora]

@@caav56 Yeah pretty much like that

[@riesenfliegefly7139]

I played the game at release and when i saw the mechs i actually thought you could make a video about them.

[@nycto5335]

I love the detail the Sentinels have. Since they were uplifted straight from the medieval era they just never bothered to come up with legit guns and tanks so they just use old weapons using new tech to make them absolutely broken which is stupidly cool and fun. It kinda justifies their future space kinght art designs basically and I love it.

[@Bowfella]

7:03 Only a crucible can kill a titan, other weapons may damage or disable the titan but based on the dialogue only a crucible can permenately kill a titan. Which is probably why the mech prioritizes melee.

[@reximingan9420]

Nope. Doomslayer killed a titan naked. Crucible or No, a Hell titan is dead the moment Slayer is there.

[@Bowfella]

@@reximingan9420 What are you talking about? This is literally in the game, it's cannon, it's beyond discussion. In Doom eternal you visit the titan you killed in Taras Nabad to retreive your crucible. Samuel Hayden said IN QUOTES "Only a crucible can kill a titan" which is why Doomguy breaks off the blade to permenately kill the titan.

[@reximingan9420]

@@Bowfella you don't know do you? Haha, in Doom 2016 look at the remains of the titan he slaughtered in hell (not in Tara's nabad) when the hell priest captured him there .

[@reximingan9420]

WITH HIS BARE HANDS

[@reximingan9420]

And no gun or crucible ONLY HIS BARE HANDS

[@justsoxxy2839]

Any possibilities for a video on armoured cores mechs?

[@Spookston]

Possibly

[@Bullminator]

Deamon X Machina would be better i guess since its newer (made by same people).

[@jaromswenson7541]

@@Spookston personally I never thought like I was piloting a mech in the armored core series (more like I was piloting a jet or a helicopter). You hardly ever "walk" in the setting as it encourages you to "slide" over the ground or just fly. Also the maneuvers the mechs are shown pulling off are so intense that no human would ever be able to survive them....I wonder if that would be part of your potential review?

[@nichsa8984]

@@jaromswenson7541 cgi reality and motion capture that technology allowing piloting was easy

[@jaromswenson7541]

@@nichsa8984 ths issue isnt how it is piloted, the issue is that the mech pulling off multiple abrupt changes in direction and force would literally kill a human. We know they are piloted from within so they are essentially coffins for any unfortunate pilot that doesn't happen to be super human. Even modern day fighter jets can't pull off maneuvers like that because it's too dangerous for the pilot.

[@thorshammer7883]

How powerful would the BFG 10,000 in Doom Eternal be compared to other guns in Sci Fi like the UNSC ODPs, Imperium Nova cannons, Star Wars EU Turbolasers, and other deadly powerful weapons?

[@alonelyperson6031]

It depends. If it has the BFG tendrils like it's "lesser" cousin, then it's strong as fuck. However, if it doesn't have that...well it's still strong as fuck. Given how often it can be fired and how destructive each shot is. From how fast it fires out side of Star Wars Turbolaser, most of the series you gave will be out fired. As for destructive power comparison, it out matches that of the Turbolaser, if I have to give a comparison, I believe the BFG 10k would be similar to an eclipse laser. Only smaller in scale (The Laser on the eclipse is like 14 km long, while the BFG 10K is like...what ? 200-300 meters in size ?) All in all, the BFG 10k is a much much more effective weapon compared to the other 3. Due to it's size difference , it's destructive power, and the fact that it recharges that quickly.

[@oinkleberry]

BFG 10K is maybe an 8th the power of the Death Star's laser. This is based upon the damage it did to Mars. It didn't destroy the whole planet obviously, but ruptured it enough to spew the ruins of an ancient city from it's *core.* So comparing it to a turbo laser is quite disproportionate

[@alonelyperson6031]

@@oinkleberry Yeah, though it is much much smaller than the death star. Probably...like 1/10000th of the size ? Maybe even more.

[@jacobp.2024]

It's over 9,000. Does that answer your question?

[@alonelyperson6031]

@ivan ivanovitch ivanovsky It fires quicker than the Nova cannon however. So it's still stronger than the nova cannon in a long fight. However, the strongest nova cannons outclasses the BFG in terms of first strike capabilities.

[@petersmythe6462]

"I don't think velocity's all that important when you're firing against flesh." It's important. Mainly for a few specific phenomena. First off, at below slingshot speeds, rounds get quite low penetration without a bladed tip or being ridiculously oversized. Second, at about 700 m/s, *human* flesh goes from deflection of the temporary cavity out of the way of the permanent cavity (a hole that's barely bigger than round caliber, to tearing the temporary cavity walls in a star shape. This means that it's worth trading quite a lot of mass, caliber, and energy, to go from a mach 1 round to a mach 2 round. A Five-Seven at the higher end of its speed range is gonna be more effective than 9mm in many regards, because it will have the cutting effect that rifle rounds do. Additionally, at around that same speed or somewhat, hydrodynamic shock can cause severe damage in surrounding tissue.

[@caav56]

And at the speeds, higher than speed of sound in flesh, a lot of very, very interesting (and destructive) stuff starts to happen.

[@peepeepoopoo1356]

Since you’re talking about mecs, you think you could talk about the mecs from iron harvest?

[@rocket_sensha4337]

Ww1 steam grimpunk mechs?

[@bdj_tvk]

Such a fun game

[@justarandomtechpriest1578]

@@rocket_sensha4337 just steam punk

[@redsnowleopard]

Those look pretty cool though ngl

[@m.c.schock2933]

Spookston is feeling slightly under the weather, guess this is his final video...

[@mariobadia4553]

Oh oh

[@localpanzer2775]

Cheer up there is no way this is his last video.

[@Bernoris]

Jenkins! Play Halo 3: Never Forget

[@sergeantmarcusstackerM1903]

Wonder hows the kidney?

[@jakejones8225]

Could you make a video on a few actual good real life uses of mechs and where they should be used

[@Daimo83]

Doom producer: "Yeah that looks cool, toss it in" Spookston: "Excuse me..."

[@aaron_431]

Anyone else want a spinoff game where you're piloting a Mec in the DOOM Uniflverse? Like, you could be a part of the resistance and we can get a glimpse of the human resistance.

[@pixelydaddyo2127]

As a counter to the sentinel mech not having hatches, you said it yourself. The demons overwhelm with sheer numbers and the sentinels can teleport, there’s no point in having hatches when 1. You can literally teleport in and out 2. It creates a much easier way into the mech for the demons by having hatches. Clawing open doors is going to be much easier than than have to claw through *literal feet/meters* of steel.

[@grimtygranule5125]

Love how he nitpicks the UAC large mech for being unusable under the squared cube law, mentions how they're clearly supposed to face the titan demons, and just goes back to talking about the mech. Like, you can't just say one thing must adhere to physics, and then gloss over the other thing that has that problem.

[@carlospulido6224]

Good video liked the comment of the footlights... I wanted to add some thoughts if anyone wants to read... *The second cabin on the giant ARC mech seems to be most likely for the pilot rather than just the mg mount, given that in the clip he was holding pacific Rim minifigures, so... +2 pilots? So maybe Navigation, Main gunner, Anti-air gunner, Commander/communicator operator? *The cannons on the foot might be use against anti infantry demon (most of the ones we face) they could possibly have a greater fire arc to avoid being overwhelmed by heavy demons like the new ciber-demon hell knight and variations. *The lack of standard armor on this game means that they are not a valid option, these giants could simply chop a building in half and throw an entire apartment to said vehicle, the total kinetic energy and momentum will kill the crew instantly and most probably destroy the cannon barrel, suspension and also flatten the whole vehicle, a similar frame of reference would be a tank experiencing a free fall and the later impact with the ground. *Also the about the glass hatch/view port we could be wrong, given our primitive way of thinking for a person of the early XXI century :P... It is most probably a transparent metal layer or even a ceramic composite much more resistant. After all we can see trough a glass because it's molecular structure doesn't block light photons nor trap them and also it already exists transparent aluminum as proof of the technology. *Finally i wanted to add that the lack of evidence of destroyed air assets would mean that they were overwhelmed in Air combat or destroyed by ground forces, revenant missiles could lock on much higher thermal image of a jet fighter, plus the added danger of the lost souls charging at them in high numbers, we don't know their maximum speed but we know they don't break the sound barrier so if we assume they have a mass relative of a human head said 8kg and they travel at 300m/s their kinetic energy upon impact would reach up to 360KJ of energy, compared against the energy released of one gram of TNT (4184J) and divided by it means the could achieve up to 86.6g of TNT in terms of energy equivalence... at least against an unaware naive human being hit by it would indeed experience a more powerful mk2 frag grenade (52g TNT) going off beside him.

[@terricon4]

I call BS about tracked platforms not being as cool as mechs. It's all about how they are shown and used. Normally mechs are cool because they jump in, jet around, slide across the ground on heel wheels, and spin their arms about engaging in cool poses. They are highly animated. A tank on the ground, by comparison, is most of the time something that slowly rumbles up, and then turns its turret to a target, and fires a normal explosive shell before stopping to reload. Nice, but something we are used too. However, with that tech for the mech, you're tank can be so much better, it can shoot around crazy fast, rapid acceleration, nice suspension work and it can smash over and through obstacles looking cool. It's main cannon can spin around very fast and fire high powered shots one after another, or even go the normal mech route of have a giant rapid fire machinegun sort of thing (not a bad idea when fighting fleshy demons honestly), and if it's still supersized it will have the energy and bad ass ness from its weight as it plows through buildings, its front them comes down, smashing into the ground before is massive suspension absorbs that energy and the whole thing rocks, then the main gun fires and the whole tank rocked back, nearby buildings are blown apart from the blast as the massive shot flies down range, hits and tears through half an enemy titan before detonating inside or perhaps behind after tearing streight through, blowing it to pieces and raining demon guts and rubble around. All while immediatly taking off with its massive tracks tearing apart the ground beneath it as it lurches forward rotating its turret over to engage the next target. Secondary guns mounted along it firing at and shredding the swarms of demons trying to get close all the while. In the end, most of the COOL is just in how something is shown to act. And most people when they think of a tank just think of, and when making them animate/make them to act like slower modern tanks. If you want future over the top stuff in your setting, tanks can be made awesome and over the top just like anything else, it just requires some creativity and thought on the part of the users. Like that movie with the big rolling cities that eat each other, impractical but also plenty cool even though its just giant wheeled/tracked cities, normally wheels are boring on everything, and cities are boring being everywhere... but if done right with energy and creativity, it can look cool. The conventional idea of a wheeled/tracked vehicle (car or tractor) versus a limbed unit (ninja, knight, warrior) is just what people base this on, ninjas and samurai and knights are obviously more cool in a fight than a little car or slow moving tractor. But think about how they CAN be with better systems, and better automation and sensors and materials like is needed for a mech anyway, and suddenly the cars and tanks can become pretty bad ass. I recall my first sci fi future tank I thought up was one that normally drove at like 100+mph, and could go to 200+ on ideal surfaces, able to literally just drive right over water and hydroplane. It had a fast rotating turret with low size but high velocity rounds for hitting other such mobile tanks. Another on in another setting with more verticality used a type of teathering field system in setting on its tracks so it could literally drive upside down on overhangs or up vertical cliffs, while mounting a giant plasma cannon and AI minigun turrets for infantry, and a rack of micro swarm missiles as a get out of jail free card. It's all about creativity.

[@jaromswenson7541]

Coincidentally America, who loves tanks barely has any military shows or movies about them. Fury is a great movie and made a tank look really cool. But that's it, I cant think of a single other american movie or show where tanks are actually the focus (yeah, sure they are in the background in most military fiction, but that's it). Its downright shameful and as an American I want more tank movies. Insult to injury is that japan has more media about tanks then america (admittedly it's not alot, but it's still more then america). If your fine watching anime then try out "tank police" for scifi tanks, but for more historical try out "girls und panzer" (cute girls compete in "safe" tank battles in a tournament between teams of tanks) theres a lot of high octane action for the tanks that it's worth sitting through the high school girl parts.

[@neomab3780]

Well not to burst your bubble, but in order for a titan to be killed or rather disabled due to them being immortal you must use a crucible type weapon. So the idea of a tank with a giant spear seems a bit of a stretch. But besides that, the creator of the mechs likes em a lot

[@terricon4]

@@neomab3780 Blow them apart with cannon shells, ram them with a spear cannon bayonette. Simple, or my favorite, just fire the special weapon type as a form of special ammo if you can. If it's too valuable and must be recovered then that can be doable, a special teather unit on the outside of the barrel that when the given round type fires tighten resulting in it being attached to the outgoing round means you could have a standard round that upon firing has a teather line on it that can pull it back. With charges and shells stored seperatly in the loading system it's not especially hard to see a tank the size of a small factory able to easily re sheathe the weapon into a sabot and restock it into the magazine without too much excess space taken, much less than the random space taken on the legged robots at least. And again, yay for ranged over melee. It's just so much more practical in most cases. But ya, the games artists liked mechs, and I get that. I just think most people who like "mechs" do so more than other systems because they don't put enough thought into just how cool other systems can also be once you add that level of unrealstic and impractical and advanced technology that is requires for mechs, into said other previously conventional platforms as well.

[@terricon4]

@@jaromswenson7541 Most of our war movies focus on a hero character/bad ass dude. And large faceless machines don't tend to work as well with hollywoods style. Battle Las Angelas and plenty of other movies shows tanks in them, sometimes being bad ass, but usually they are either background assets, or its something like mission impossible or that fast and furious one where it's only because some hero units go into one, with lots of internal camera shots. Also since tanks require a crew to operate, it doesn't work as well with solo hero characters in that regard either, and that's easier for most movies since hollywood movies like to highlight their big actors that are in them, and this type of story doesn't cover that as well, or wth the requirement of multiple people support those. Fury was great. Generation Kill was another great one that also had the group of guys down well, but these types are more exceptions than the rule here. Part of why airplane movies have been more common is because you have one pilot flying, so you can convey a lot more character with the movement/actions of the vehicle to the main pilot actor. Also the big bubble canopy and stuff lets you get plenty of nice shots of their face, that are decently lit unlike in a tank. And they go back to the airbase after every sortie, so there's a chance for booze, plot development, and S*x scenes in those more so than actual deployment in say a tank. Also something hollywood likes.

[@jaromswenson7541]

@@terricon4 I would disagree one some points you made. One, the more popular Hollywood types involves groups of actors as the focus (even if the movie is focused around only one of their goals). Character interaction is important and many go to the movies to see it (this is why oceans 11 and avengers are popular), amd this is really common for military movies, people like the group dynamics of squads of soldiers, it's that "brothers in arms" type feel that works and is why fury was so good. As far as interacting in a tanks confined space it can work. We know it does because mecha anime does it all the time. The majority of the mecha shows have the cockpit completely covered and have plenty of character interaction between pilots stuck behind shit tons of armor. Though in animation it's easier to cheat space with the camera, it's still possible and cgi can make up for the failings of live action in this regard. The main reason tank fiction is so rare I'm my opinion is because Hollywood is just fucking lazy and dont know about an untapped market. They dont like to experiment often these days and just like to crank out derivative work after derivative work. They are standing on the shoulders of previously proven movie types and franchises and are afraid to forge new paths. In japan there is this aspect of derivative media as well, but we see alot of experimenting, especially in animation, maybe it's a difference in culture and how media is viewed in it, and while I cant exactly put into words what the difference is, I can can clearly see that one nation is more willing to take risks and come out with more variety then the other.

[@theoneandonlyjazztheautobo8597]

0:50 just imagine instead of floating Shermans the Germans see this walking in to the beaches of Normandy

[@lampshade6967]

Remember in the opening of doom 2016, when he puts on his helmet. It shows only what you could see out of the glass first, then it becomes see though. Same tech could be used for the mechs around where the driver sees

[@jaymikevillanueva1212]

You're referring to augmented reality. I like to think the Night Sentinel's have a sophisticated method of meshing the neural link of the pilot and crew's heads into the mech's resident AI or UI for a seamless control of that thing. I can see that's the only way to do it given melee combat against an equally large or larger titan would occur. Imagine the Slayer using that against the Icon of Sin. That'd be sweet. I also think this ain't the only mechs the Night Sentinels have in their arsenal and are likely to use the same tech in controlling them. The ARC mechs, for all their advanced tech, lack the unique augmented reality interfaces the Night Sentinel mechs use just by looking at the way they're designed. But that's not to say they're slow and useless. On the contrary, I think these ARC mechs have rudimentary AI to assist in targeting and providing real-time data to the pilot or crew when in operation. They're not designed to do serious CQC against a demons or a titan but are still capable of doing so if necessary at the cost of a slower reaction time compared to the Night Sentinel mechs. ARC mechs seem to be more like tanks with legs and arms than metallic gladiators. ARC mechs were designed to suppress large hordes first and foremost with the potential to fight melee combat only in dire situations. Let's talk about the design philosophy of ARC mechs. That ARC small mech seems to be an anti-personnel mech and was designed to counter the mancubi, barons, and hordes of ghouls. Mechs like these seem to be force multipliers while leaving the dirty work for armored soldiers. Big mechs are a different story. They seem to be mobile battleships designed to attack on medium to long range against titans. Melee combat isn't in their design but if they were, it should have 2 hands just like the Night Sentinel mechs and would have a giant blade attached to one of the arms as a melee weapon whilst carry a detachable shoulder-mounted weapons pod to handle medium to long range sniping. I think in terms of variety, ARC mechs are far more suited to open warfare than Night Sentinel mechs. They just have more specialization yet flexible enough to do whatever they're needed to fight. Night Sentinel mechs were just designed to counter titans with an emphasis on melee combat. The design is well in line with their warrior culture.

[@Ghost_Text]

Or titanfall. The hatch inside has its own internal display

[@alejandrorojas1423]

I hope the little ones can ride around on top of the big one; like a bunch of Baby gorillas riding on top of mom.

[@jyd1384]

In my guess, the DLC of Doom eternal would be provided by ID devs for all Eternal purchasers, so gamers couldn't drive those gigantic mechs when they playing campaign missions. Which is those machines will be the controllable mechs to gamers in missions of DLC. If Doomers wait for something, they'll suggest something special for gamers' expectations.

[@yellowcrayonkid]

Velocity is actually a big problem because in lore the reason that demons are so hard to kill with ballistics even though they are just flesh their skin is as strong as steel

[@trevorderringer269]

The reason why humanity lost is because only Crucible weaponry can permenantly kill a titan. So the titans would just get back up.

[@v.e.g.athesentientintellig2333]

@@trevorderringer269 I think the Thralls are actually not that bad since they just follow whoever is controlling them. They seem to be passive im nature. It's the Dreadnoughts, which are aggressive varaints of the titan race, that will wreak havoc. However, I can't differentiate the two since they just look the same.

[@Crewserdriver]

The only thing wrong with them is the fact that I can’t pilot one 😑

[@hanchiman]

To be honest, Doom Eternal made me much more interested in the Doom Eternal universe, like how does Earth looks like and the military of ARC and their Command structure. All info we got was the short brief Codex where they planned to do a counter attack against the Gore Nest. Also make me wonder how the ordinary city looks like since the technology still look present day technology, like cars and shops still look like present day

[@sharcruiserw3733]

Everything wrong with “Tom Clancy’s: Endwar” tanks next?

[@pannik_lucas]

That would be great, with particular interest in the Russian Ogre tank, having its heavy nature contrasting that of the Russian tanks evolution. Even considering the fact that is an special operations tank, differing from the standard T-80 of the army

[@gracecalis5421]

"The legs are thicc--" **purchases entire battalion of mechs**

[@jamesbaynham4425]

For the arc heavy mech the lower cockpit is most likely dedicated for the drivers who have the ball turret, the top is for the gunners who control all other weapon systems. This is similar to the larger battle suits for the Tau in Warhammer 40,000 (riptide size and above)

[@ryszakowy]

lights and turrets on legs sound like potential for support of ground units if anyone was willing to walk right next to giantass mech

[@firestorm2035]

Another thing wrong with Doom Eternal's mechs... We can't pilot them...😭

[@keksisthebetrayed8494]

Counterpoint for the argument that it would be better to put a large cannon on tracks: due to the fracturing of Earth, a traditional tank would be unable to traverse the surface of Earth, plus a tank would be too slow to escape a Pinky's charge. As for the placement of turrets on the shins, this would hinder any demons trying to climb the legs of the mech, and could also hit targets too low for the arms.

[@bp_cherryblossomtree723]

Spookston would be surprised if he reviews the jaegers from Pacific Rim

[@selodz1058]

Everything wrong with ״feeling a bit under the weather״ at these times lol get well soon

[@JSolars]

Would you consider doing an "Everything Wrong with Tom Clancy's Endwar Vehicles"? A lot of great designs in that game!

[@sam8076]

you have to remember, as explained in the Tarus Nabad mission, demonic titans can only be killed by crucible weapons IE doomguys sword, the betrayers hammer, and the massive axes, spears, swords on sentinel mechs seen in hell.

[@EnterpriseKnight]

"Sorry for the voice, I feel a bit under the weather" Yeah sure, Evil-Spook, where did you put the Good-Spook?

[@phylarious4352]

Ngl they should've used the sentinel mech in the last battle or in some battle fighting the icon of sin but still gets destroyed in the end so you can still do that Crucible finisher on the icon of sin's brain lol

[@doomguy9049]

Why does the Sentinel mech have a big codpiece? My guess would either be some kinda ballast system and/or fuel/coolant reservoir. Or maybe it’s just happy to see some demons? I noticed the big ARC mech has headlights on it’s knees and across its torso in other advantageous spots as well as it’s toes, which is cool and makes sense.

[@shadowtear101]

The arc heavy mech actually looks pretty functional and would probably do good in its role. However I can't see its cannon be used on a tracked vehicle. The best spot for it would be on the arc mech as putting it on a tracked vehicle would A result in the crew being overunned by demons or B the tracked vehicle getting stomped out by said titan. Also you didn't mention this but both arc and sentinel mechs seem to be really heat resistant as both mechs can be seen sitting in pools of lava in the game.

[@ghost_ship_supreme]

Aren’t the Mech’s in hell owned by the Night Sentinels? Also, you have to keep in mind that there were no roads once the demons started destroying everything. Oh, and according to the ingame lore (found at the super gore nest), they also have battleships and hover tanks! I think I may have seen one or two at the arc complex? Also obviously these were all powered with ARGENT technology! So maybe they had antigravity technology to make them lighter or something...

[@revolrz22]

Explosive bolts? Uh oh. As someone from War Thunder, you should know the stories surrounding the F8F.

[@ToshioThunder]

@3:45 Ah, you appreciate my physique as well!

[@go2gulag138]

Suprised you havent made one yet since theres so much footage of them fighting ingame ,When are we getting a review of all the metal gears?

[@SpruceReduce8854]

I just realized that if the sentinel mech's grip on the axe slides too high, its hand is going straight into a spike and its arm could possibly go into the energy blade.

[@AzureSkyCiel]

The 'ankle guns' on the heavy mech actually is a pretty good idea to some degree. They're probably anti-personnel weapons that try to get close to the legs. The issues get to be the lack of firing range and the constant movement of the legs would make it difficult for the turrets to aim even with AI operator and that they might do better a bit higher up on the body so demons a would have less a chance to get into range. Also, there's clearly headlights all over the damn thing.

[@amirhaikal6672]

Yeah I think the amount of media people consumed. They tend to forget that an overwhelming force can take down anything.

[@themagicalbrute8290]

Think you’ll ever touch on the VS’s from Lost Planet 1 & 2?

[@generalseal6948]

with the UAC big mech i actually believe it having a hand isnt a bad idea because then it gives it the capability to use various types of weapons like if they wanted it to use handheld guns built for its size and in melee combat it having hands is useful because it can punch and grapple its opponent and hands help it if it needed to climb up steep surfaces

[@wh3nderson95]

The UAC will take your comments seriously. And you will bear witness to the fruits of your labor.

[@pancake_crab4457]

The heavy mech looks like it has, or would have a deployable ramp/stairs in its crotch...great... That, or I bet it would have an extendable elevator (like on some Star Citizen ships). Which would look hilarious seeing it come out the bottom of the mech.

[@vavord5181]

Ok. Mechs. Large ones. EWW WITH LEGIO TITANICA VEHICLES.

[@tdpuuhailee8222]

Only mech you need in DOOM is the Doom Slayer

[@TheWellplayed]

Everything wrong with animal crossing tanks when?

[@catzo_5762]

Now we need a comprehensive series on everything wrong with Battletech mechs

[@ANDREALEONE95]

A simple way to resolve the legs as a weak point, give them an individual energy shield.

[@devilslayersbane]

Have you ever thought about the battlezone vehicle design? Lots of cold-war era inspired space vehicles in there. Like the Razor scout vehicle is based off of the P47 or P51 chassis and the Grizzly tank is based off of the M60 Patton.

[@Jakezergling]

Are you gonna do the ARC tanks and helicopter?

[@sirilluminarthevaliant2895]

So. The 2cd mech has to be huge to fight a titan If it was attacked vehicle it would take up an absurd amount of ground space and be unable to maneuver in most fields. Maybe the mech can be boosted by repulsorlift technology

[@sorcererberoll4641]

I have a suggestion of Tom Clancy’s endwar tanks and apcs

[@Lukos0036]

Seems like shields and choke points would be a better use of the technology than giant mechs. But I guess they thought to use them against the giant demons rather than the smaller ones.

[@cromwell300]

This was actually a pretty positive review of mechs from him

[@trevorderringer269]

It seems like it. Except for ground pressure on both of them, and the fact the a giant mech can have point defence, the ARC ones are pretty sensible. And the Sentinel one makes sense in the lore, culture and tech of Sentinel Prime.

[@camhedmr_5593]

I guess that Chinese and Russian forces would be having extravagant landships with the ARC gigant arm Cannon on it, if They're still there in doom eternal. Because Tanks are often depicted as Red faction vehicles Because They're "useless and uncool", and the fact that USSR had a lot of Tanks. Hell, just imagine that Cannon supported by 9 type59 chassis.

[@LacyBeee]

"Everything Wrong with Ghost In The Shell's Mechs"?????

[@rocket_sensha4337]

I'd say they are pretty solid. Multiple THICC legs , automated or remote controlled and with multiple sensors and optics. armament is a mix bag tho.

[@MKKINVKR]

Spider tanks is op

[@dangithero]

You need to watch full metal panic and see what they do with their mechs Like having a repel line to get in their mech or the melee weapons that they use!

[@wyattarthur5275]

Thanks Hugo 😂

[@Imdrunkontea]

I think you'd have a field day evaluating mechs from the Battletech/Mechwarrior universe

[@AD3PTUZ]

You should check out Armoured Trooper VOTOMS for mech designs. They're more reasonable in some respects and terrible in others.

[@nova2293]

The light mechs ball turret does have horizontal traverse if you look it has a mount similar to the underslung auto cannons of many attack helicopters

[@fr3fou]

hope we get to play with one in the DLCs

[@TheStargateNerd]

"Anything I'm involved, if there's a way I'm gonna stick giant mechs in it." I love the honesty, and I fully support his mission. I'd buy him a beer in a heartbeat!

[@thorshammer7883]

Can you do a video on the ground base vehicles in Star Wars Empire at War Forces of Corruption of the Empire, Rebellion, and Zann Consortium please?

[@memk]

I do think the human light mech looks like it's big enough to be 2-crewed.

[@uhoh3267]

You should review the 40k Craftworld Eldar vehicles, I’d love to hear your thoughts on their walkers and gravtanks.

[@AnimeSunglasses]

I strongly suspect that pilot access to the small mech is actually by the entire front of the top hinging open. Also, I don't think it's actually how it's designed, but in actually trying to build a mech that size I don't think you could get the pilot's head DOWN that far in the torso without them curling into a ball. Not an effective driving position. So, it's almost plausible that those windows ARE periscopes, just angled down instead of up... except then the shot-trap angling makes even less sense.

[@DrChaOsNiKi]

how about warhammer 40k titans? Imperial Knight, Warhound etc

[@caav56]

Maybe even Castigator, the Father of Titans.

[@MisterSouji]

Spoilers for final fight... I feel like with Doomguy having a mech in his Fortress, the first phase of the final boss should have been fighting it with the mech. Both phases are "shoot the sections of the body", just in different arenas.

[@andrewschmitt3284]

I would assume the weapons on the sentinel titanic's back are a kind of artillery piece.

[@wolfmirebacta8710]

I wish we got to use these mechs

[@kap1117]

I don't get why they out a sentinal mech in your ship but never let you use it or even in a cutscene or something

[@necrodamis1771]

Do you think you'll ever look into the designs of the mechs in Iron harvest? If I remember right they're designed in 1910s-1920s so I doubt you'd find them to be much of a treat as even early tank design wasn't ideal but I still think you would have some interesting thoughts on them

[@Fantax92]

We're too unimaginative with our robots. Robots don't need to be humanoid shaped. They can take any form that would make them more effective

[@homiespaghetti1522]

Maybe in the third instalment of the series we will be able to pilot the mechs.

[@lettucesalad8500]

There is still 2 DLCs in the horizon. Let's see what these 2 bring to the table in the next coming months.