Everything Wrong with Halo's Vehicle Design

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Spookston

Spookston

4 жыл бұрын

It was really nice to be able to return to Halo for a bit, especially since the release of Halo: Reach on PC. I wish I could've done more in-depth discussion on the Scarab and the Warthog, but as I said, tanks are more my thing, that's why the Scorpion takes up over half the video.
I've said it before, but it would hurt to say it again; this series is not meant to say that the actual designs themselves are bad, or that the game is bad because of them. This series simply takes a look at fictional vehicles from a realistic standpoint for fun.
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@Spookston
@Spookston 4 жыл бұрын
Since I think it's fair to say that the majority of you guys are tank enthusiasts, how would you feel about videos that are historically oriented? For example, I wanted to make a video about the Sherman's stabilizer, or the most underrated tanks of WWII.
@somticlight3712
@somticlight3712 4 жыл бұрын
Historical videos of that magnitude would be amazing
@sonsofisstvan1675
@sonsofisstvan1675 4 жыл бұрын
Spookston you are my favorite furryboi and youtuber. Your vast knowledge of history and detail is astounding. Please keep it up! Love everything you do! 🖤💖 - Call me
@flippedstug9517
@flippedstug9517 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds fun, I'd love to see that kind of stuff.
@jeri_v2578
@jeri_v2578 4 жыл бұрын
Underrated tanks would be a cool vid
@thesupertendent8973
@thesupertendent8973 4 жыл бұрын
Spookston: ya I'm quite into tanks, I wouldn't mind history ordinated videos.
@Mariopwnzu
@Mariopwnzu 4 жыл бұрын
"You either have firepower or troop capacity, you can't have both." Well I'd like to introduce you to the Warthog Sedan and the Warthog Grand Caravan from Cursed Halo Truly the best of both worlds
@Crimsomreaf5555
@Crimsomreaf5555 4 жыл бұрын
Lol didn't think anyone would say this lol. that mod is just stupid fun
@usagifang
@usagifang 4 жыл бұрын
Nah. The warthog limo is much better. Its like a transporting, shooting, bat.
@calebbekker4127
@calebbekker4127 4 жыл бұрын
How long can a warthog truly get? We may never know.
@cristianardonmonge836
@cristianardonmonge836 4 жыл бұрын
@@usagifang *that marine with a shotgun killing whoever is in the seat in front of him*
@dergenmusic2081
@dergenmusic2081 4 жыл бұрын
Mariopwnzu I’d like but it’s at 69 and 69 jokes are funny.
@azzythechristianfurry
@azzythechristianfurry 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair about the Scarab, it’s actually a mining vehicle, not an assault platform. It just so happens giant mining beams are great for turning enemies into molten slag or ash piles. Or, ya know, nothing at all. The AA gun on the Halo 3 variant is actually just what it is.
@snperkiller1054
@snperkiller1054 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, in its original design things like legs and sharp "feet" made total sense as it was probably expected to climb over mountains and such (which it does quite effectively)
@nobleman9393
@nobleman9393 4 жыл бұрын
"I am a mining vehicle, not an assault platform, please don't shoot at me!"
@azzythechristianfurry
@azzythechristianfurry 4 жыл бұрын
SNPERKILLER10 Quite so. As far as walkers go, I’m hoping he’ll examine Command and Conquer 3: Kane’s Wrath’s Walkers used by all the different factions. Specifically the Wolverine and Titan mechs, which actually were meant for frontline combat. It seems more fair than looking at a mining vehicle which just happens to be good at combat. He could also take a look at Halo 2’s Scarab, which, while still a mining vehicle, seems more suited for combat because it has a large crew, and can block off access to its operation center. It still has the same walking problem as this Scarab, but it’s an improvement.
@koverpy426
@koverpy426 4 жыл бұрын
Wish the humans have a beam-powered propulsion platform/station counterpart. Small unmanned drones/spacecrafts won't need a fusion engine.
@kabob0077
@kabob0077 4 жыл бұрын
@@azzythechristianfurry The Halo 3 and Reach Scarabs are actually designed with the Lekgolo race in mind. Also that open power core in the back is so the Brutes can kill them if they go rogue. Basically the Halo Reach and 3 Scarabs can technically be classified as "Ultra Heavy Infantry" in "Power Armor" because they're like giant Hunters. The Halo 2 one is an older, crewed model that Regret probably dragged along for whatever reason.
@samedoughnut7097
@samedoughnut7097 4 жыл бұрын
The sights on the warthog turret dont really matter because if a marine or spartan has a helmet it should link to the HUD and have a target wherever the turret is pointed
@MrRisenKill
@MrRisenKill 4 жыл бұрын
And if you are shooting, what is something like a .50 Cal Minigun loaded with Tracer ammo, you dont realy need a sight, since you can adjust your fire while looking at the point where the constant stream of bullets land. Also recoil and the muzzleflash work against a sight. Yes, the first shots are more acurate, but after that you will be unable to see anything through the sight.
@samedoughnut7097
@samedoughnut7097 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrRisenKill yup that works too
@unknownnope7543
@unknownnope7543 4 жыл бұрын
Yep this is shown to be true for all unsc weapons
@ls200076
@ls200076 4 жыл бұрын
@@unknownnope7543 Shame the UNSC doesn't follow the "never works 100%". Especially in the military
@avidion6274
@avidion6274 4 жыл бұрын
Most soldiers in the UNSC have a Neural interface implant anyway
@BungieStudios
@BungieStudios 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that the UNSC makes use of a lot of AR technology. Look and move. Instead of our analog stick, they'd be using their heads. Scorpions are supposed to have two compartments. The Halo CE booklet claimed that two Marines were required to pilot a Scorpion, or one Spartan (or person with a neural interface).
@EggEnjoyer
@EggEnjoyer 4 жыл бұрын
everyone Also most unsc soldiers have a neural uplink. So things like accuracy and vehicle controls isn't an issue for most soldiers
@SpaceNerd117
@SpaceNerd117 4 жыл бұрын
@@EggEnjoyer Spartans have an upgraded neural interface.
@kanaka118446
@kanaka118446 4 жыл бұрын
I spot Flannel Daddy in your PFP
@bombomos
@bombomos 4 жыл бұрын
So for the Marines, one to drive and one to fire. But for neural interface users you can do all in one slick movement
@paragonavataroftheirontenth
@paragonavataroftheirontenth 3 жыл бұрын
@@bombomos a spartan can do it because he can use the cameras on the tank to se outside, he can control the turret and using an AI or managing both shooting and moving he can drive the tank around
@QueenOfLatex
@QueenOfLatex 4 жыл бұрын
It's worth mentioning that the scarab was designed as a mining platform, not an assault vehicle. They were deployed so heavily on Earth because the Covenant were digging up the portal to the Ark.
@kabob0077
@kabob0077 4 жыл бұрын
Heavy digging with Truth and the Boys really did a number on Earth.
@nodubstephere1008
@nodubstephere1008 4 жыл бұрын
That is interesting find. What about on Reach however, many artifacts there?
@QueenOfLatex
@QueenOfLatex 4 жыл бұрын
@@nodubstephere1008 the long night of solace was actually there to mine for forerunner artifacts. Probably the forerunner ship under sword base.
@kabob0077
@kabob0077 4 жыл бұрын
@@QueenOfLatex The Fleetmaster of the fleet that was at Reach before the Fleet of Particular Justice arrived actually had his own agenda regarding the artifacts at Reach.
@kaz998
@kaz998 4 жыл бұрын
Halo 2 scarab was a mining platform, while halo 3 scarabs were designed for combat.
@patchmoulton5438
@patchmoulton5438 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, did people actually say the scorpion was a railgun? What were they smoking?
@Somedude-ux7kc
@Somedude-ux7kc 4 жыл бұрын
Patch Moulton I guess they were thinking about the oni scorpion in halo 5
@patchmoulton5438
@patchmoulton5438 4 жыл бұрын
@@Somedude-ux7kc Havent played 5 but really? If youre gonna do a railgun scorpion, why not just bring back the cobra?
@ludicrous5568
@ludicrous5568 4 жыл бұрын
@@Somedude-ux7kc the hannibal scorpion has the railgun. The Oni scorpion has a more powerful scorpion gun ( I think)
@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial
@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
The hanibal is a more of a railgun, and the oni shoots a bit faster with faster traveling shells and more damage to vehicles
@BlueTeam-John-Fred-Linda-Kelly
@BlueTeam-John-Fred-Linda-Kelly 4 жыл бұрын
Look up the Magellan recoilless rifle... asshat!
@thomas4092
@thomas4092 4 жыл бұрын
Few things about the scarab. 1: It's not meant for combat. It's a mining rig with a front facing plasma excavation beam and a rear mounted AA cannon for defensive purposes. 2: the hunter colony needs that section to be in open air as they react badly to cold temperatures yet need to keep the core cool enough to operate without have an overload every few minutes. 3: Armor is more designed to bounce away falling debris. Even the hatch onto the upper section has a door that can drop down. 4: legs are designed like that as to traverse not only rough terrain but are magnetized so that it may scale up metal surpasses as commonly seen at forerunner sites.
@oddityurie3435
@oddityurie3435 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but we all know deep down it's mostly there for game play reasons but hey as long as you get fun and enjoyment on taking out the damn thing then it's all good
@obiwaankenobi4460
@obiwaankenobi4460 3 жыл бұрын
1. Just because it isn't meant for combat doesn't excuse the fact it's a poor design. 2. Vents exist. You don't need it to be in complete open air. And good luck using the Scarab in a cold environment, I guess. 4. You didn't address literally any of the problems with the legs, such as the terrible ground pressure.
@thomas4092
@thomas4092 3 жыл бұрын
@@obiwaankenobi4460 actually the ground pressure is somewhat mitigated by the anti grav generators on it, its more prominent in the Halo 2 super scarab varient as opposed to the halo 3 one but they do have them, 4 on the halo 2 and 5 on the halo 3 one. yes I will agree its terrible by our standards but its not Forerunner bad Cold environments aren't that much of a problem given 1 its plasma that shit is HOT and 2 the Hunter worms were originally from a zero atmosphere frozen moon. Poor design? Literally 70% of covenant activities take place in space or low gravity locations like derelict forerunner stations such as the one codenamed Parallax by ONI.
@obiwaankenobi4460
@obiwaankenobi4460 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomas4092 You literally just said Hunter worms have a problem with the cold. And where did you get the source there's anti-gravity generators inside the legs? And no, that's not even true. Just because "most" activities take place in space/low-gravity environments (which isn't even relevant for a vehicle that's designed to operate on land) doesn't excuse bad vehicle design.
@thomas4092
@thomas4092 3 жыл бұрын
@@obiwaankenobi4460 not inside the legs its all in the main hull. You see two on the sides of the halo 2 scarab and one on the rear, the info is in the halo ships and vehicles book. There is a HUGE difference between cold moon and cold enough to regulate something that BOILS metal in an instant
@gamebrainjagras4193
@gamebrainjagras4193 4 жыл бұрын
Title: “Everything Wrong with Halo’s vehicles” Thumbnail: *Scarab* Me: “That is classified as an infantry unit.”
@kabob0077
@kabob0077 4 жыл бұрын
I believe the term you're looking for is "Ultra Heavy Assault Infantry."
@gamebrainjagras4193
@gamebrainjagras4193 4 жыл бұрын
kabob 007 exactly
@xxfalconarasxx5659
@xxfalconarasxx5659 4 жыл бұрын
Does it transport crew and equipment? If it does, it's a vehicle by definition.
@gamebrainjagras4193
@gamebrainjagras4193 4 жыл бұрын
xxFalconArasxx troops can ride it but it’s not a transport.
@xxfalconarasxx5659
@xxfalconarasxx5659 4 жыл бұрын
@@gamebrainjagras4193 If troops can ride it, and they definitely do, then it is a transport.
@murican4813
@murican4813 4 жыл бұрын
What about the UNSC "combined arms doctrine" So a Scorpion should never be going alone, although it may be unable to go across bridges, or roads with excess cars. *eventually* depending on hostile AA situations, there may be a pelican to pick it up. This would force infanty to go alone without armor support. You may be able to use HALO ODST to test how a scorpion could work against bumpy terrain (that one highway mission) or utilize forge when it comes out to make your own test track.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 4 жыл бұрын
Tell me you're going to take Scorpion with it's M36 WWII era armament over modern MBT, please;)
@klutzspecter3470
@klutzspecter3470 4 жыл бұрын
TheArklyte Give me m3 Bradley and I’ll be happy.
@musashimcclellan681
@musashimcclellan681 4 жыл бұрын
The UNSC didn't need a MBT because they didn't have a war for over 3 centuries. The scorpion was mainly used against smaller lightly armored vehicles the rebels used. Not against other tanks. They are also made to be easily transported by pelicans.
@murican4813
@murican4813 4 жыл бұрын
@@musashimcclellan681 The UNSC does have a meed for a heavier vehicle, such as the "grizzly" tank we see in Halo wars These insurgents had access to advanced weaponry, perhaps a few scorpions
@musashimcclellan681
@musashimcclellan681 4 жыл бұрын
@@murican4813 The grizzly was commissioned in 2509 in response to the growing insurrection. The insurrection started to grow faster than the UNSC could handle so that's why they created more weapons and the Spartans
@devinbrooks3930
@devinbrooks3930 4 жыл бұрын
Do the Elephant from Halo 3 and Halo Wars, maybe the mammoth too
@endprocess9479
@endprocess9479 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@kraineee3816
@kraineee3816 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah mammoth looks pretty impossible but great against covanent and fouruner i acually dont know the spelling of it
@bcpablo35
@bcpablo35 3 жыл бұрын
Mammoth needs to be in halo infinite
@spartan456
@spartan456 4 жыл бұрын
"legs are generally not a good mode of transportation" [reees in metal gear]
@dr.boring7022
@dr.boring7022 4 жыл бұрын
Litterally every mammal: Say sike right now
@plasmancer6104
@plasmancer6104 4 жыл бұрын
'looks down at own legs' oh
@dsdy1205
@dsdy1205 3 жыл бұрын
@@plasmancer6104 we invented wheels for a reason
@KaptainKommissar
@KaptainKommissar 4 жыл бұрын
In the Halo lore, the Scarab is actually a mining machine, repurposed for warfare
@HeirToSparda
@HeirToSparda 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. I think HiddenXperia did a video on it.
@phantomaviator1318
@phantomaviator1318 4 жыл бұрын
"Iron sights are bad for accuracy and long range engagements" Simo Hayha has a late Christmas present for you.
@n147258noah
@n147258noah 4 жыл бұрын
That, and because of all the interface technology it's possible that the HUD quite a few soldiers have may have a smart reticle for aiming. The iron sights/posts are just supposed to help align it, possibly. Or for if you simply have no HUD abilities and the Warthog's deadlined, but the gun still works. Modern rifles may have red dots (battery-powered) but still have their iron sights for backup.
@supremecaffeine2633
@supremecaffeine2633 Жыл бұрын
I know this is a very old comment, but Simo Hayha mostly fought within a few hundred meters.
@CptJack-ws8nz
@CptJack-ws8nz 4 жыл бұрын
Giving you a tip here, when you go over WH40K Vehicles if i where you i would make a video for each Separate Factions because of the sheer amount of Vehicles, just wait till you Reach all the Leman Russ Variants and Baneblade Variants from the Imperial Guard Edit: No Scarab redesign?
@Spookston
@Spookston 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't do redesigns because I messed up my hand, so I can't use GIMP very well.
@CptJack-ws8nz
@CptJack-ws8nz 4 жыл бұрын
@@Spookston ouch, well hope you get better
@Bob-bs9ok
@Bob-bs9ok 4 жыл бұрын
But due to the similarities between many vehicle variants I believe it would probably be best to cover the best designed one.
@robertmarks3131
@robertmarks3131 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bob-bs9ok I would Say that yeah, but many of the variants of vehicles are simply weapon swaps I.E. the Punisher that has a giant Gatling cannon or the Vanquisher that swaps a general purpose gun to a specialized AT gun. And a lot of imperial vehicles are based on the chasise of either the Chimera or the Rhino so that should help as well since those are based on the BMP for the Chimera and the Rhino is either a M113 or FV 432. Also this series may help in research kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIWTqYuNicamrM0
@Bob-bs9ok
@Bob-bs9ok 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertmarks3131 I was going to bring that up but I had the land raider specifically with the variant that greatly optimized the internal organization.
@cringothebot276
@cringothebot276 4 жыл бұрын
The Scorpion's shells seem to be a Steel and Brass composite case. Something I believe is currently being tested for the NGSW Program in the form of the .338 Sig cartridge. Supposedly you can get hotter Ammunition whilst also having a smaller case length.
@meeshii3
@meeshii3 4 жыл бұрын
Modern tank munitions use combustible casings. You don't exactly want giant shell casings rolling around in the crew compartment. Shell ejectors exist, but you typically see them on unmanned turrets since they compromise NBC protection. Also, a shorter case doesn't equal hotter ammunition unless it's tapered or you're using better propellant-see electrothermal-chemical propellant. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrothermal-chemical_technology
@masterkillerfluffy
@masterkillerfluffy 4 жыл бұрын
I literally went to Halopedia, got the answers needed. It's a 90mm tungsten shell
@joeybraghieri
@joeybraghieri 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the Scarab is used primarily for mining.
@kabob0077
@kabob0077 4 жыл бұрын
It is, it just so happens that it can also be some pretty good Heavy Infantry in the B type and a decent vehicle in the A type.
@Kisseyhersh123
@Kisseyhersh123 4 жыл бұрын
It's accidentally a great combat platform.
@greenradiozone824
@greenradiozone824 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kisseyhersh123 Basically yes
@5xg378
@5xg378 4 жыл бұрын
Halo 2 one is for mining The one from reach and 3 is ultra heavy infantry
@Kisseyhersh123
@Kisseyhersh123 4 жыл бұрын
@@5xg378 no, they're both for mining.
@fintaylor2657
@fintaylor2657 4 жыл бұрын
I heard somewhere that the Scarab has anti-gravity generators in its legs to help support its enormous weight. Downsides being the energy requirement and why not just use smaller vehicles or better legs.
@Bluelyre
@Bluelyre 4 жыл бұрын
Because those smaller vehicles aren't mining platforms.
@ls200076
@ls200076 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bluelyre I love how fantasy sci-fi use the anti-gravity trope
@kabob0077
@kabob0077 4 жыл бұрын
@Walter McClain Well, there is Neural Physics and the shit the Precursors, Ancient Humans, Forerunners, and the Flood did/do...
@Xozkov
@Xozkov 4 жыл бұрын
@Walter McClain when it comes to forerunner technology then it goes into fantasy sci-fi mode
@fearmasterm.m.z7139
@fearmasterm.m.z7139 4 жыл бұрын
@@Xozkov not to mention that the scarab is a living ish thing
@noahw7013
@noahw7013 4 жыл бұрын
What if the scorpion driver has an Apache helicopter type set up where he looks and the gun aims
@Spookston
@Spookston 4 жыл бұрын
Then he wouldn't have 360 degree engagement capability.
@tramachi7027
@tramachi7027 4 жыл бұрын
@@Spookston I mean...It could. But that would be either A) a one-time use or B) you´d need a bit help...with only one-time use aswell. Jokes aside maybe its like an eytracker thing. Where when you look to a certain point on the edge the turret just rotates, avoiding the need to turn the whole head.
@IO-hh2fz
@IO-hh2fz 4 жыл бұрын
If i remember correctly the scorpion is primarily controlled using the standard neural interface that every soldier in the unsc is equipped with. Also the guy behind the installation 00 youtube channel (he does incredibly detailed breakdowns of halo equipment) put forward the idea that multiplayer is actually happening how your spartan percieves it (at 1/10th the speed a normal human does), this would mean that the speed of a rocket is more in line with a real one if you compensate for it (ingame velocity X 10). Building on the previous point, i personally think that the scorpion uses an electrochemical gun (the us navy has researched then and the south korean army is also looking at them as a potential upgrade for the K2) the speed of the projectile would then make sense. Also it should be noted that prior to the insurrection there hadn't been a major war in about 200 years in the halo universe. Lacking any credible armoured threats the increased ammo capacity of the 90mm gun does make sense if you are not going to be shooting against anything heavier than an apc or a pillbox. The insurrection also lacked any credible armour so the wraith 'assault mortar' is likely the first real large scale armoured threat the unsc has faced in almost 3 centuries, and with the scorpion being in widespread service and production as well as 'good enough', it is likely the unsc was only working on a replacement after the end of the human-covenant war (or with the amount of covenant tech they then got access to had to start over again). We do see a 'new' variant of the scorpion in halo 5 (likely a quick upgrade with a lot of recycled legacy scorpion systems and off the shelf parts) as well a technology test bed vehicle (hannibal scorpion). The created conflict has likely also hampered this work so the scorpion is likely to remain in unsc service for a while longer.
@aleksanderbialy8146
@aleksanderbialy8146 4 жыл бұрын
If you look closely in Halo 3 and Reach the driver's head does turn with the turret but of course the head only turns 90 degrees left or right of the both but shoots to the other side once the turret has turned more than 180 degree
@ls200076
@ls200076 4 жыл бұрын
@@IO-hh2fz Still weird that there is no "acceptable alternative" when the neural interface doesn't work. Never works 100% there's always something fucking it up. Especially in the military.
@THEMONKEYWITHNOSOUL
@THEMONKEYWITHNOSOUL 4 жыл бұрын
Warhammer 40K you say? Lets talk about the Imperium of Man: Pro: * standardised armour chassis, same chassis serves like 8 different vehicles Con: * HAVE YOU HEARD OF ANGLED ARMOUR??
@shawnosborne7102
@shawnosborne7102 4 жыл бұрын
ORK vehicles no cons whatsoever
@THEMONKEYWITHNOSOUL
@THEMONKEYWITHNOSOUL 4 жыл бұрын
@@shawnosborne7102 ITZ GOTTA GRATE BIG SHOOTA
@shawnosborne7102
@shawnosborne7102 4 жыл бұрын
@@THEMONKEYWITHNOSOUL WHY HAV ONE BIG SHOOTA WHEN YOUS KAN HAV TWOS
@JiggleWiggleBagel
@JiggleWiggleBagel 4 жыл бұрын
@@shawnosborne7102 YOUS DOIN IT RONG ITZ GOTTA AVE A FOUSAND MOR
@RedShocktrooperRST
@RedShocktrooperRST 4 жыл бұрын
Look at the front of the Leman Russ and tell me that's not sloped.
@benjamin1359870
@benjamin1359870 4 жыл бұрын
One thing to keep in mind though is that they are still room for improvement when it come to "powder shell"weapon, they are in between technology between our modern gunpowder and railgun cannon, one example for example is Electrothermal-chemical technology, it's the same concept as our gunpowder amunition but now what ignite the propellant is a plasma cartridge that well ignite it self thanks to electricity, so it need a bit of electricity much more than our modern tank have right now but it doesn't need as much as a railgun. This allow for a much predictable reaction, increased projectile velocity, increases accuracy and allow the use of much denser propellant. but it would still be a shell with powder in them so the amunition and spent shelll would look awfully similar. So the fact that it still use powder shell doesn't really tell us anyting about the technology behind the cannon and it's efficiency Since the name of the Scorpion main cannon is the M512 smooth-bore high-velocity cannon, i think we can discard that shell velocity as an ingame balance. So maybe we could consider that this 90mm cannon use this technology and have quite more punch that its caliber suggest, well that's what i will consider because it makes much more sense in universe.
@experiencemaster1743
@experiencemaster1743 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the scarab was originally just used for mining till the covanant realised "hey, why don't we point this big ass laser....at the enemy" the models of scarabs we fight in halo 3 were prototypes of unmanned variants, but due to being rushed that left little time to reinforce the main core and eventually the prototype was evolved to be completely operated by A.I's and engineers with no way of boarding the scarab being designed for mining would obviously be designed to traverse ountains and cliffs. plus one of the reasons the scarabs didn't last long in halo 3 (aside from the aformentioned prototype designs) is because the UNSC deploys all it's anti-armor whenever a scarab was dropped in, not to mention due to their size they don't walk out of dropships, they hang onto the carriers and are dropped from orbit
@wh3nderson95
@wh3nderson95 4 жыл бұрын
I would think that too, but the 2 Scarabs used to fend off the Coalition forces attacking Prophet of Truth in the pillar at the end of Halo 3. Is not that good in the first place. Because of the exposed belly. I think Phantoms and a small fleet of Ghosts could have helped defend Truth at the entrance of the facility. While the Scarabs have no to a pathetic amount of ground support to keep UNSC from attacking below. It cant stop Mongooses which compared to cost of production. The Scarab is a money pit. (I know it's weak for gameplay reasons and to look cool. But I am struggling to see how the UNSC could lose so badly against inefficient Covenant Hardware).
@halinaqi2194
@halinaqi2194 4 жыл бұрын
In lore the UNSC was generally tactically superior, it just was the covenant was so numerous and dominant in space warfare they pretty much won every battle against the UNSC.
@TheCoolParnell
@TheCoolParnell 4 жыл бұрын
TL;DR: A flaw with the Warthog is that it is a 720 HP monster that is expected to be driven by people who's parents won't even let them drive the family Prius down the driveway. Quick note on the Warthog: As an amateur car designer, (A.K.A. Some chuckle-nut that 500 hours in Automation) one big problem that I can see with the Warthog is it's uncontrollably. According to Forza Horizon 3, the Warthog has a Twin-Turbo, 8 liter V8 pumping out 720 HP at the crank, capable of propelling the thing from 0-60 mph in 3.7 SECONDS! For comparison, the Ferrari F8 hyper-car also has a 700 HP, Twin-Turbo V8. Unlike most hyper-cars, the Warthog also has four wheel steering, giving it even more agility to add to the speed. Of course, these numbers are on an unarmed warthog, so performance of a warthog with the extra weight of a gun will suffer; however, 720 HP is still a lot of power. The Warthog could make a rad rally car in the hands of an experienced rally driver; however, those expected to drive the Warthog are NOT experienced racing drivers. One of the reasons why the Willys Jeep, Land Rover, Kübelwagen, UAZ, and Humvee were so successful was because they were all so forgiving and easy to drive that even an illiterate conscript that has never even seen a car in their life could safely drive them to an extent. In contrast, putting soldiers too young to even vote into the driver seat of what is bacillary a Ferrari is a recipe for disaster. It doesn't matter how good the Warthog is if the target user isn't skilled enough to use it.
@luperamoon
@luperamoon 4 жыл бұрын
But also note that the Warthog weighs 7,200lbs. It can barely reach 80mph in Forza Horizon. It's not a speed demon and should be easy to work with considering it probably has a lot of ease-of-use features like helmet interfacing and all-wheel steering.
@codyyoung5636
@codyyoung5636 4 жыл бұрын
While true I would argue that like the use of any complicated system, training would be key. I don't believe that the UNSC, a pioneer of the human frontier in space, would let un-qualified marines use the vehicles. SURELY the drivers are trained to use the system and understand how it operates or at the very least given basic vehicle operation training. Besides with the amount of "fly by wire" tech that exists in modern jets nowadays whos to say a similar system wouldnt be put in place for a Twin-Turbo, 8 liter V8 pumping out 720 HP at the crank. Also...... twin turbo...... WHERE IS MY TURBO LAG, WHERE IS MY WARTHOG BLOWOFF VALVE! surely a super charger would be better in a military application where it would be more reliable and throw in less variables for the driver to handle.
@Superassassinman15
@Superassassinman15 4 жыл бұрын
So ur saying we should straight pipe it and put it on bags ????
@blaster112
@blaster112 4 жыл бұрын
@@codyyoung5636 I'm fairly sure operation of basic equipment is handled in the basic training course, which 3 weeks. In this they are taught how to handle a weapon, fight in a squad and presumably handle the most common UNSC vehicles (Warthogs and mongooses). Assuming pilots and tankers would of course get additional training for their equipment. The M12 FAV (warthog) also doesn't use a normal engine. It uses a hydrogen injection engine coupled with a infinitely variable transmission. Therefore the acceleration should be almost lineair. It doesn't use a V8. That only happens in FH. The advantage of the Hog is that it can drive on water for a limited time, normally drives on hydrogen fuel but can convert up to 12 liters of water into hydrogen fuel if it needs to. Which can give it a range of 790 km. Which gives it an incredibly range after it 's initial fuel load has been consumed.
@codyyoung5636
@codyyoung5636 4 жыл бұрын
@@blaster112 That's a crazy huge range and as far as being a prolonged use recon vic goes thats amazing!
@bullreeves1109
@bullreeves1109 4 жыл бұрын
Bungie/343: Spends Years making dozens of vehicles of all shapes and sizes. Spookton: Im about to end this mans whole career.
@aleksanderbialy8146
@aleksanderbialy8146 4 жыл бұрын
The Scarab is a retrofitted excavator just like the locust and other Covenant excavators. Why waste more resources on making a new assault platform when you can retrofit some powerful excavators?
@gardevoir7137
@gardevoir7137 4 жыл бұрын
@Igualalde Antes people like you are the problem
@dinkledord7026
@dinkledord7026 4 жыл бұрын
@@gardevoir7137 silence, you furry apologist
@gardevoir7137
@gardevoir7137 4 жыл бұрын
@@dinkledord7026 go suck off fortnut some more
@t.m.m.8137
@t.m.m.8137 4 жыл бұрын
@Igualalde Antes Yeah I used to like him too, until he said Bubsy 3D was bad.
@nathanrandomized3593
@nathanrandomized3593 4 жыл бұрын
"Why are there six pedals if there are only four directions?" Caboose
@amillionrobots
@amillionrobots 4 жыл бұрын
While I enjoy watching your videos, I can’t help but say the following; You’re comparing the Scorpion to modern day standards and technology, whereas Halo takes place in 2552 (in this case). Roads and bridges would’ve had to be wide for the Scorpion to be as wide as it is, and the vehicles used to transport it are large, in fact, larger than the Scorpion. In 500 years, the problems seem with the Scorpion we see now due to historical occurrences, will have been solved. I have little to say about the Warthog, as I pretty much agree with everything said about it, besides the fact that you don’t need to use resources on advanced sighted when you already are using the VISR technology. Also, having the gun where it is should’ve been fine, as the people manning the tend to have decent body armor (that would be effective against the weapons the Insurgency were using). When you list the Scarab’s cons, or any of the Covenant’s technology, just remember that it’s technology that the Covenant uses, not Humanity. They won’t use treads, as they have their reasons we probably wouldn’t understand. Basically, listing cons for the Covenant isn’t an amazing idea, their technology is beyond our comprehension. I apologize if this comment comes off a little negative, but I felt the need to say something.
@alastor8091
@alastor8091 4 жыл бұрын
The smaller the better. Scorpions are unnecessarily wide and that frequently hinders their movement as seen in cases like New Mombasa when a modern tank could easily traverse the entire city but a Scorpion can't and is often stuck. In warfare, the idea is NOT to get shot. The insurrection use the same weapons as the UNSC and armor is not that great unless you're a Spartan. I don't care how good they say the armor is, I wouldn't want to get shot. Not only that, but typical marine and odst armor has no more coverage than our own save for the full helmets. A bull anywhere but to those armored sections is going through. Not a good idea to rely on it in the slightest anymore than it is today. As for covenant vehicles, their tech is not incomprehensible in the slightest. The UNSC has not only been able to reverse engineer some of its tech, but has also done the same and better to an almost absurd degree with Forunner tech, you know, the guys who had the laws of physics wrapped around their finger? The UNSC understands technology even better than the covenant at this point as shown by how the Infinity outclasses their ships in every way. If you're a fan of the expanded universe, there was also a time where Cortana was able to take control of a covenant ship and, within a few minutes, was able to make calculations that drastically increased the efficiency at which the plasma weaponry was used to decimate other Covenant ships nearby. They can't even use their own weapons well. Humans understand Covenant tech better than they do and even more so. The designers just put rule of cool before practicality. Lastly, it might also highlight their lack of knowledge in that the Brutes, a major component of the Covenant, only just rediscovered the radio. They aren't very smart at all.
@Newt0rz
@Newt0rz 4 жыл бұрын
@@alastor8091 Sounds to me like the Covenant's brains are seperate from their operator's effectiveness. That's a big problem imo. You want your troops to know what they're using intimately.
@Kisseyhersh123
@Kisseyhersh123 4 жыл бұрын
@@alastor8091 Actually, Spartan armor kinda sucks. The joints are heavily exposed and the shields are the main defensive factor.
@SpaceNerd117
@SpaceNerd117 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Kisseyhersh123 The undersuit itself is actually pretty tough, and the plating is a titanium alloy. As mentioned above, the idea is to avoid getting shot over tanking hits, so getting more mobility by sacrificing more heavily armored joints makes sense, especially since one usually aims for the center of mass. The shields help with armoring the joints as well. Spartans are also a lot faster than humans, even more so in armor, so there's that. @Newt0rz The guys that design the vehicles and weapons in the Covenant are actually a separate caste from the warriors. They Covenant as a whole also tend to favor dogma and honor over practicality.
@amillionrobots
@amillionrobots 4 жыл бұрын
Alastor With the first couple of examples you used, you were using modern standards and technology, whereas 500 years in the future, our methods now would be seen as primitive. Just compare ourselves to the humans from the 1500s, you’ll see massive technological differences. And technological progress and innovation has only improved. Even with advanced body armor, you wouldn’t want to get shot. Throughout the history of body armor, no one ever did. As long as it works, the operator is fine. And you can see that in addition to the torso and head, the thighs and shins are also covered, by what we can assume is a more advanced material than Kevlar. I’m aware of the fact that Infinity uses Forerunner technology and such, but that’s years after the Halo events (2552). Again, our understanding of science will have far surpassed our current understanding of science. Then when you talked about the Covenant ships being used by Cortana to destroy each other, remember she was Operating them. In addition to the fact that she’s Cortana, and can do what she did. Remember, post Combat-Evolved, Cortana had infiltrated Installation 4, therefore she had acquired knowledge of Forerunner tech, which Covenant tech is based on.
@LieutenantFoxtrot
@LieutenantFoxtrot 4 жыл бұрын
6:18 Warthog Limo: Allow me to introduce myself
@CC-ks3tj
@CC-ks3tj 4 жыл бұрын
Such a good mod
@LieutenantFoxtrot
@LieutenantFoxtrot 4 жыл бұрын
@@CC-ks3tj The Pews-ma rifle (That's what I call it) is my favorite thing in the mod by far
@Mariopwnzu
@Mariopwnzu 4 жыл бұрын
Ah I see you're just pissed because I made a comment that says basically the same thing you did but worded completely different and mine has more likes so instead of thinking "Hey someone thought the same thing I did" you get pissed at them for "stealing" your comment because yours has less likes
@LieutenantFoxtrot
@LieutenantFoxtrot 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mariopwnzu More like copying it you twat
@Mariopwnzu
@Mariopwnzu 4 жыл бұрын
@@LieutenantFoxtrot Do you honestly think I would look through the comments long enough to see yours just to copy it for fucking youtube comment likes you fucking troglodyte Do you genuinely believe two people out of almost 100k cant think of a similar fucking joke
@cpMetis
@cpMetis 4 жыл бұрын
Scarabs aren't actually meant for combat, but excavation. That's why they're basically giant plasma beams with a body attached. The weird feet is meant to give them the most mobility on wrecked terrain and harsh inclines possible. That's why you see them when you do. In Halo 2 they deploy an outdated scarab as they are just trying to buy time to get away. In 3 the first ones were actually doing their intended role until you came too close to their AA guns and were reassigned, and the later scarab fights are also them just tossing whatever they had at you to slow you down. In Reach they're being deployed because the Covies are trying to take down the last dockyard and realize you're up to something so they're kinda scrambling to get it done. Even in Halo Wars 2 when you get to use your own modified scarab it's for the same purpose, to bust through into the wreckage of High Charity. Scarabs are really meant to be smaller, mobile, more precise versions of the plasma projectors they have on their ships.
@kabob0077
@kabob0077 3 жыл бұрын
There's also the Super Scarab in Halo Wars that seems to have only its Excavation Beam done so they just turned the head around to fire at you since they're desperate to stop you... The Covenant have a habit of throwing Scarabs at things they want to stop, don't they? Hell, even the Banished have that habit. And then there's the Scarabs that we actually haven't seen and don't know much about other than the simple fact that they supposedly exist in the lore somewhere.
@totallynototanmp4353
@totallynototanmp4353 4 жыл бұрын
The iron sights thing isnt really valid cause unless youre downrange or in an infantry unit youre crew serve has an iron sight and thats it, but the warthog has no noticable elevation lock which means realistically when you dismount that weapon system is gonna be smackin the shit out of the post its mounted on, either breaking the weapon or the mount. And I hope it has a pneumatic or hydraulic elevation systen cause if not and you have to manually hold that thing up its a wonder how anyone but a Spartan does it cause im sure those weapons are heavy as hell.
@StrunDoNhor
@StrunDoNhor 4 жыл бұрын
Halo Wars actually introduced a scaled-down version of the Scarab called the Locust. It shares many of the same pros and cons, but least comes with the benefit of being a smaller, more mobile vehicle with similar destructive power.
@joenuts8312
@joenuts8312 4 жыл бұрын
I will say this: The original Scarabs in lore were mining platforms, so the legs are probably there for easier movement across a dangerous or scattered surface underground or on hilly/mountainous terrain, where a flat surface may not be available or there might be water everywhere
@diamonddelver3845
@diamonddelver3845 4 жыл бұрын
Are we just ignoring the horribly exposed scorpion gunner seat?
@General_Eisenhower1945
@General_Eisenhower1945 4 жыл бұрын
The warthig is like a super aggressive evolution of the US willys jeep from WW2
@Hans-hy5jp
@Hans-hy5jp 4 жыл бұрын
The warthogs: Default: anti infantry, recon Rocket: anti vehicle/suicide cart if ur Gunner is stoopid Gaus: high velocity high rate of fire anti everything sniper rifle
@Litany_of_Fury
@Litany_of_Fury 4 жыл бұрын
When it comes to warhammer 40k a vehicle that rubs me the wrong way is the chimera, it looks fine at first until you question where the engine is.
@valhalanguardsman2588
@valhalanguardsman2588 4 жыл бұрын
*THE SECRET OF THE OMNISSIAH*
@valhalanguardsman2588
@valhalanguardsman2588 4 жыл бұрын
But there might be two inside the treads comparment
@kabob0077
@kabob0077 4 жыл бұрын
@@valhalanguardsman2588 *Squints* You win this round, guardsman...
@sgtsharp1537
@sgtsharp1537 4 жыл бұрын
the engines are in the sponsons, i.e. the bits sticking out to the side past the tracks
@Litany_of_Fury
@Litany_of_Fury 4 жыл бұрын
@@sgtsharp1537 Those are very small then, and they have no exhausts.
@clydecraft5642
@clydecraft5642 4 жыл бұрын
8:17 if the master chief wasnt there, all the marines probably would have been wiped out by the scarab
@saladv6069
@saladv6069 4 жыл бұрын
Mainly because the average halo marine has the IQ of a squirrel
@Neion8
@Neion8 4 жыл бұрын
@@saladv6069 Don't be mean to squirrels, also Warframe ftw!
@alexisbaz8746
@alexisbaz8746 4 жыл бұрын
@@saladv6069 but they have a godlike accuracy, just be carefull if they have a rocket launcher...
@smeminem1258
@smeminem1258 4 жыл бұрын
Btw the wiki pages give out some specs for the 40k vehicles although the values are funky since they would use metals with different relative thickness values
@Irondrone4
@Irondrone4 4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't help that 40k has always played fast and loose with the scale and capabilities of its vehicles. Try looking up the exact measurements of an Imperial Titan; you will get many different results for any class you pick. Even going off of the tabletop models is tricky, as they are rarely properly scaled to each other.
@codyyoung5636
@codyyoung5636 4 жыл бұрын
@@Irondrone4 not to mention its can just be explained away as lore by people saying "oh this forgeworld made variations for such and such reason." Come to think of it, it's be hella hella hella hard to standardize tools/weapons/vehicles/materials across an empire that spans nearly ALL of the milky way galaxy. Especially lacking a reliable means of FTL travel to act as a supporting infrastructure. "TECH ADEPT, Why is this titan not repaired and ready for use?" "Sorry Princep, we lack the materials as they were lost in warp travel and the few we did receive are made using mars standard tooling and are not compatible with our standard tooling, the ammo we received is of a different caliber and the loaders used to fit all of this are to small or more to the point our titan is to big" " by the omnissah, you would think that someone of all powerful foresight that rules a Terran empire with absolute authority would think of this." *STARES STRAIGHT AT CAMERA*
@nichsa8984
@nichsa8984 4 жыл бұрын
@@Irondrone4 spending too much at own risk
@Kairu_Kilofski
@Kairu_Kilofski 4 жыл бұрын
I do know that atleast the Halo 3 Scorpion uses rocket shells. This can be seen is the replay mode.
@MistahFox
@MistahFox 4 жыл бұрын
I think the warthog's exposed gunner is acceptable if it's role is only that of a light transport truck, reminiscent of WW2 Jeeps that occasionally had .50 cals for emergency self defense or light fire support.
@herrfantastisch7489
@herrfantastisch7489 4 жыл бұрын
A Humvee could be regarded as a light transport and its gunners are much more protected as they're not exposed. You definitely don't want your gunners to be that exposed at all. I'd say the exception goes more for the Mongoose.
@alastor8091
@alastor8091 4 жыл бұрын
You guys keep bringing up WW2 as if they did things in an optimal way back then. Exposed gunners suck. There's a reason turrets are shielded now.
@MistahFox
@MistahFox 4 жыл бұрын
@@alastor8091 I definitely disagree with using the Warthog like a Humvee. There should be another vehicle in a more direct combat oriented role, the Warthog should only be light utility and fire support. I also don't think you can fit that mini-gun into a turret without a much larger vehicle, Humvee turrets just fit a .50 cal and are still very exposed, and the Humvee is the same size or larger than the Warthog.
@herrfantastisch7489
@herrfantastisch7489 4 жыл бұрын
@@MistahFox 1. The Humvee is definitely smaller than the Warthog. You're likely thinking of the MRAP 2. Both vehicles use turrets, no miniguns 3. The Humvee is definitely not exposed. For a light vehicle, it has bulletproof windows and amazing protection for the gunner and passengers against small arms and even higher calibers. 4. Both vehicles are multipurpose, and a vehicle used for scouting is no excuse to make it so exposed 5. Fire support and utility should be the roles for the Warthog? Fire support would be putting the Warthog in combat and even if it is light utility, so is the Humvee, which is so much more protected
@OfficialSpyderr
@OfficialSpyderr 4 жыл бұрын
The scorpion would be too much of a mechanical nightmare to be effective. If it wasn't a mechanical nightmare then more MBTs of that design would be in use, but none are
@o_o-037
@o_o-037 4 жыл бұрын
"Read's title" *ME:* _[Equips Spartan Laser]_ Oh I'm sorry, could you repeat that? (Semi-laugh) I wasn't listening.
@jaredpickett5832
@jaredpickett5832 4 жыл бұрын
I originally thought that the scorpion had no connection between its engine and the treads, I thought it was using treble motors like an excavator or skid steer loader. But in halo 2 anniversary, the scorpion engine revs and changes gear when your moving forward. The wheels at each end of the treads (where the drive sprocket should be look similar to treble motors).
@EggEnjoyer
@EggEnjoyer 4 жыл бұрын
Tbf, Halo 2a isn't the original design bit instead 343's design. So it may not be consistent with bungie's work
@thesupertendent8973
@thesupertendent8973 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, love these halo videos, thanks for the nostalgia.
@gabenewell3955
@gabenewell3955 4 жыл бұрын
I mean the covenant had thousands possibly hundreds of thousands if not a million worlds and systems under there control so to say build small units instead of a scarab can’t be said for the covenant they had potentially millions of scarabs
@obiwaankenobi4460
@obiwaankenobi4460 3 жыл бұрын
...you can still make the Scarab smaller.
@Vviridescent
@Vviridescent 4 жыл бұрын
Spook: The Warthog's aiming is bad because it only has iron sights. Me: It has sights?
@BodaciousBloke
@BodaciousBloke 4 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention the fact that the games are in “Spartan Time”. this means that the times you listed for the time rounds travel (the scorpion for example) are actually much faster for normal humans.
@ethanwagner6418
@ethanwagner6418 4 жыл бұрын
I don't really like that explanation, because it doesn't apply to everything in the game. Dialogue sounds normal, Earth gravity appears normal, character moment speeds are normal. The explanation of gameplay mechanics is simpler than Spartan time.
@arthureaterofworlds5176
@arthureaterofworlds5176 4 жыл бұрын
Spartan time is actually a rush of adrenaline with combat, so it can be stopped in no combat areas
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 жыл бұрын
@@ethanwagner6418 Earth gravity normal? Then why is everything so floaty?
@ethanwagner6418
@ethanwagner6418 4 жыл бұрын
@@stylesrj floaty?
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 жыл бұрын
@@ethanwagner6418 Spartans in their one-ton armour seem to bounce around like astronauts, as if they were on the moon.
@unwantedzero228
@unwantedzero228 4 жыл бұрын
It's possible that the Scarab has large repulsion systems like the Wraith to help it stay up but if those repulsions are damaged then that's where the problem comes also I believe the Scarab was never intended to be a military vehicle but an artifact excavator. It's possible that it was modified during the human-covenant war with the large Cannon and turrets for combat. Doesn't solve its problems but it looks cool
@kabob0077
@kabob0077 4 жыл бұрын
It's a giant mining platform piloted by space worms.
@MistahFox
@MistahFox 4 жыл бұрын
Most of the Scorpion's issues could be solved by re-designating it a light airborne assault gun instead of an MBT.
@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial
@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Thats what the wasp and hornet are, right?
@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial
@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Unless im missing somthing
@taterc229
@taterc229 4 жыл бұрын
but it's so chunky tho
@valhalanguardsman2588
@valhalanguardsman2588 4 жыл бұрын
Orbital assault vehicle
@ls200076
@ls200076 4 жыл бұрын
@@taterc229 chunky, but look at the turrets and the tracks!
@orion9026
@orion9026 4 жыл бұрын
The no sprocket teeth design does work. To see our lord and savior talk about it, watch the Inside the Hatch video for the T-34-85 episode 1 and skip to 6:50
@Spookston
@Spookston 4 жыл бұрын
It's the same system as the BT. Which wouldn't work because there is only one point of connection between the track pod and the hull.
@orion9026
@orion9026 4 жыл бұрын
meaning it doesn't work well, which I do agree with. A sprocket makes a lot more sense. I guess the reason for being the way it is from a game design perspective could be a simpler 3D model?
@UnbreakableTaco
@UnbreakableTaco 4 жыл бұрын
As somebody with considerable familiarity with Warhammer 40k, you have your work cut out for you. The Imperium has, by itself, a metric fuckload of tank and general AFV models, and that's not counting modifications (different hull or sponson guns, dozer blades, etc.). That number explodes the further back from 'modern times' (IE, used from the years M41.900-M42 onwards) you go, as well as what forces you're talking about. Humanity alone has something to the tune of FIVE different military categories that handle surface warfare, and though there is overlap (Rhino transport, Chimera AFV to some extent) most of them are self-contained to just one faction. So, if you want to do a thorough review, a series of videos on each of the following human factions would cover most of the notable designs. 'Astra Militarum'/Imperial Guard: The largest by sheer volume of bodies and materiel. Unless you count variants as the same vehicle (as combat roles change immensely based on loadouts), you've got an overwhelming majority of designs available. Most notable tracked AFVs are the Leman Russ tank, the Chimera assault transport, the Baneblade superheavy tank and variants of the aforementioned base models. Adeptus Mechanicus + Skitarii: Weird super-science weapons on questionably designed chassis. Walkers with lightning lances that continue walking more or less forever if the driver dies? Yep. Sentinel walker cabins on four stubby pointed legs? Yep. They've got motherfuckin' drill tanks, even. Technically two factions, with the Skitarii using the more sensible loadouts... For the most part... And the AdMech priests too busy banging toasters and literally praying and smacking wrenches against their autoloaders so they work again, somehow. Highly comedic if you put the spotlight on them, from the sheer absurdity value. Adepta Sororitas: Space Nuns with power armour and an affinity for fire and explosions. They field an MLRS that fires rockets when the pipe organ (yes, really) up top is played, the Rhino, and a Rhino with a rapidly traversing flamer/melta mount. Almost as dumb as the Techpriests of Mars, if not for the fact they often bring in reasonable armoured support from other factions. Adeptus Astartes: Here's a Rhino. It is an M113 in SPACE with half-decent armour. This is the basis for all but two of their ground-based designs. Also field what is essentially a front-ramp IFV shaped a lot like a brick made love with a WW1 Mark IV, but covered in weaponry. The ol' tl;dr is, "Be careful of arousing the ire of the spurned 40k nerd whose favorite design wasn't talked about, you could fill a catalog with just Rhino-based designs." That said, I'm excited to see what you come up with, and hopefully the sheer bulk of human and alien designs doesn't drive you to drink. :P
@markmulder9845
@markmulder9845 4 жыл бұрын
The subsonic shells on the scorpion tanks are actually for gameplay balancing. The shells in lore travel much faster.
@Phickic
@Phickic 4 жыл бұрын
Dude I just found this channel, and its honestly the perfect content. Great vids, keep it up!
@ronaldmacdonald8667
@ronaldmacdonald8667 4 жыл бұрын
The Leman Russ Battle Tank and Tau Hammerhead Gunship could be a good start for 40K vehicles. Different factions, different races, but both are considered "heavy Support" in the game
@totaldramagamer5521
@totaldramagamer5521 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm imagining a scarab walking through a hangar punching holes in the floor." As people have said, it's mainly used for mining. However, more specifically in this case, the Covenant would not store Scarabs conventionally like we store tanks. They would probably be grav-lifted into a vertical hangar and then stored on the roof with a clamp or something similar. When deployed we can see Scarabs literally falling from the sky into battle. That further reinforces the idea that scarabs are simply 'dropped' and not 'deployed like tanks' from a hangar. That's why the Scarab doesn't give a damn about surface pressure. It never touches the ground when it doesn't have to. When it does, it's usually okay that whatever it's stepping on gets destroyed and/or is punched through to provide grip to the legs. Also, since I imagine Scarabs are extended duration space worthy out on asteroids for mining... it would almost be required for the scarab to always guarantee the legs punch through the rock it's hanging onto no matter what the rock so happens to be made out of.
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 жыл бұрын
So Scarabs would be ill-suited for planets with gravity then?
@totaldramagamer5521
@totaldramagamer5521 4 жыл бұрын
@@stylesrj No, they would just be air dropped like they are in Halo 3.
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 жыл бұрын
@@totaldramagamer5521 Yeah but you wouldn't keep them on a planet with gravity for very long before square-cube law catches up with them and puts undue stress on the parts...
@totaldramagamer5521
@totaldramagamer5521 4 жыл бұрын
@@stylesrj Yeah, but you would have to have the difference between 'large' scarabs and 'normal' scarabs to have such a comparison. Square cube law basically states that it's much, much harder to make big thing with the same design as a little thing using the exact same components. Right now all we can do is assume that a current scarab works fine in gravity affected environments like Earth (seen in Halo 2 & 3). However, you could use the square cube law to state that a 'giant' scarab would be infeasible using the same design. The issue the OP states is how you would store something whose feet is designed to always puncture through whatever surface it touches. That's the problem with the legs. I say it wouldn't be a problem because of grav-lift technology the covenant have, alongside the fact that we see Scarabs can be held on the roof of a hanger rather than shut down on the floor of a hanger. This is reinforced by Halo 3 where Scarabs are clearly able to drop out of orbit (or at least a high altitude) and use engine thrusts to land into the a gravity affected battlefield without so much as a hitch. (Happens in Halo 3, when two drop down to defend where the Prophet of Truth planned on activating the ring.) This further hints that a scarab must be held somewhere so it can 'drop' into a battlefield.
@stylesrj
@stylesrj 4 жыл бұрын
@@totaldramagamer5521 I'm just saying that Scarabs wouldn't be suited for long mining operations on planets due to their thin legs and your post saying that they'd be very much suited for asteroids is probably their primary use. Considering how you shouldn't be flying those flying bricks of a spaceship in atmosphere for too long... Scarabs probably have the same issue. You can't keep them on a planet with gravity for too long before physics says otherwise; they're probably straining those antigrav devices to the limit when in operation.
@CloakerM8
@CloakerM8 4 жыл бұрын
Another con for the warthog, the driver and passenger seat is greatly exposed to it's MG. Rounds expelled from the MG will fall into the compartment and distracts the driver or cause burns from the expelled cases if the user is not wearing suitable armour.
@chrisarnold9139
@chrisarnold9139 4 жыл бұрын
The scorpions gun is aimed via a neural jack, so there is no need for a manual system (though having one for redundancy would be nice.) I'm not sure If the jack is standard for unsc soldiers, but I know all Spartans have it, it's what allows their mjolnir and any AI aboard to access their brain directly
@jetpackdog3427
@jetpackdog3427 4 жыл бұрын
6:24 Actually you can have both- just arm your Marines with heavy weaponry.
@jetpackdog3427
@jetpackdog3427 4 жыл бұрын
Also, the forgehog has doors.
@jetpackdog3427
@jetpackdog3427 4 жыл бұрын
Or you could move the turret and have it controlled by the passenger
@cruxnajii2056
@cruxnajii2056 4 жыл бұрын
The Scarab was never meant to be a war machine. That's something that just kinda happened... It's actually a massive piece of mining equipment.
@xxsickmo7lonzxx524
@xxsickmo7lonzxx524 4 жыл бұрын
Scarab: hey look there's something in our way. Trailer: *gets yeeted into the sky.* 0:01
@Joe-ij6jt
@Joe-ij6jt 4 жыл бұрын
Imagining grunts flying off the scarab is hillarious. Lmao
@fenixflexin5942
@fenixflexin5942 4 жыл бұрын
Spartans are 8ft tall and there’s different versions between games so reach tank isn’t the only tank
@CrazyDutchguys
@CrazyDutchguys 4 жыл бұрын
7ft* There were only 1 or 2 spartans that reached 8
@fenixflexin5942
@fenixflexin5942 4 жыл бұрын
The Dutchinator wel yeah 7ft to 8ft
@bobjones1432
@bobjones1432 4 жыл бұрын
@@CrazyDutchguys The tallest Spartan was Samuel-034, and he was only 223 cm with armour. Master Chief is 218 cm in armour, 208 cm without armour, so Samuel is roughly 213 cm without armour, so at most they're only around seven feet.
@wumbosaurus9121
@wumbosaurus9121 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobjones1432 Jorge was near the same height wasn't he? Not quite as tall, but close
@bobjones1432
@bobjones1432 4 жыл бұрын
​@@wumbosaurus9121 According to their Halo Waypoint pages Jorge-052 was one mm taller, which is still virtually the same height, but they made him taller for some reason. Contradicts everything about Samuel towering over everybody else, but I guess it's canon. Funnily enough, Samuel's page used to say he was 238 cm in armour (228 cm without armour) but they changed it for some reason.
@julien7337
@julien7337 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, that intro. Elon Musk is really going low budget on space travel huh?
@icebreakerce1942
@icebreakerce1942 4 жыл бұрын
The scarab is actually a mining platform that was equipped with as on top
@FrostyWheats
@FrostyWheats 4 жыл бұрын
6:00 I’m pretty sure either in Fall of Reach or Contact: Harvest the Warthogs are equipped with doors. The lack of doors is probably explained as a field modification for whatever reason.
@RichardNixion357
@RichardNixion357 4 жыл бұрын
"It's a troop transport." Maybe we should put a turret on it? No. No. No. (Pentagon Wars)
@CodBeeClassic
@CodBeeClassic 4 жыл бұрын
When he starts talking about the warthog: "Humvee heavy sweating"
@Euro2610
@Euro2610 4 жыл бұрын
Good job on the vid! On a side note, u can use 1d4chan instead of the Wikia or even Lexicanum for 40k vehicles!
@devilgamer-rr8639
@devilgamer-rr8639 4 жыл бұрын
duuuude i love your videos so much, you should make about the starcraft terran and prottos vehicles
@itaybron
@itaybron 4 жыл бұрын
You keep mixing up imperial and metric units, it gets confusing.
@MikeBison_
@MikeBison_ 4 жыл бұрын
One thing to note, the Warthog was never a military vehicle. It was a civilian designed ATV-type sporting vehicle that was re purposed by the UNSC. You can see advertisements for it on billboards in Halo 2.
@ls200076
@ls200076 4 жыл бұрын
Weird to use the warthog then. Especially when you're fighting Human insurgents. MG and regular small arms fire would be a nightmare for the crew.
@elphonsaminis
@elphonsaminis 4 жыл бұрын
Scarab is actually heavy infantry as it is made up of Lekgolo worms that misbehave so the crew is to make sure they don't go rogue and the reactor is used to power the gun.
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 4 жыл бұрын
Scarabs don't walk on the halls of a Supercarrier. They're in package mode being moved around by other machines.
@FolgoreCZ
@FolgoreCZ 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I don't agree that having no doors on a Warthog is a negative, though. If you look at any real life light scout car like the Defenders they use in Iraq, they often also don't have doors. And I'm willing to bet those guys that put their lives on the line in those cars knows if doors really are necessary or not.
@ajrk95
@ajrk95 4 жыл бұрын
@@CptJack-ws8nz yeah but do you think every warthog in the UNSMC was redesigned for Spartans?
@FolgoreCZ
@FolgoreCZ 4 жыл бұрын
Again, if real life soldiers use it, it probably works, otherwise they wouldn't put their lives at risk by not using something else. Like the roof mounted MG on the early Humwees (as seen in Black Hawk Down). They were too exposed, so they started using either better armoured turrets or remote controlled MG's. And light military cars aren't having doors pretty much since the WW2 (Jeep), so it's not like it's still in the process of figuring this out. My bet is that since car doors don't offer any actual protection (despite what Hollywood teaches us, car doors can't even stop a 9mm), they just going with the speed and convinience of not having doors at all.
@benjamin1359870
@benjamin1359870 4 жыл бұрын
We are in the future with space travel, so its entirely possible you will have to defend a rock with no breathable atmospheres or no atmospheres at all, i think door and pressurised cabin should be a standart.
@ajrk95
@ajrk95 4 жыл бұрын
@@FolgoreCZ dude you can totally armor a door. Humvee's are armored, they have doors. Or your could remove the weird scalloped dip where a door would have gone and just have the troops get in through the top.
@FolgoreCZ
@FolgoreCZ 4 жыл бұрын
You can, but obviously, it's not worth it on a light scout car, otherwise real life soldiers would be doing it, that's all there is to my point. Humvee is not a light scout car, it's a 1 1/4ton truck. A light scout car is for example Land Rover W.M.I.K. and look how many doors that thing have. Going through the top is actually pretty slow and annoying, so unless you have an amphibious vehicle, where you must have the sides solid, you should try to avoid it.
@JahanSoundSystem
@JahanSoundSystem 4 жыл бұрын
Tracks > legs Ah yes, one of the many hard truths mecha fans must face at some point in their lives....they're still cool though.
@mistermango8224
@mistermango8224 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that the each of the warthogs wheels has and independent drive and suspension system makes it great for the role it's meant to fill, might not be the best on maintenance though lol
@rubenlopez3364
@rubenlopez3364 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh the think the Gauss hogs revolver thing actually charges the shots like a crank
@yourlocalmemeandanimedeale807
@yourlocalmemeandanimedeale807 4 жыл бұрын
Last
@crazygamecrafter8830
@crazygamecrafter8830 3 жыл бұрын
for the scarab, you forgot the immense mobility available from the legs, and you forgot that in the lore it's MEANT primairly for terraforming
@PillowTheHiveQueen
@PillowTheHiveQueen 4 жыл бұрын
i wanna see you do a vid on the new halo 5 version of the scorpion! M820 Main Battle Tank
@aleksanderbialy8146
@aleksanderbialy8146 4 жыл бұрын
In Halo Wars 2 the Banished Scarab has clawed feet instead of just spikes. Just something you might have missed
@Aetius_of_Astora
@Aetius_of_Astora 4 жыл бұрын
1 thing about aiming and driving at the same time in halo that i think makes it slightly more reasonable is that they probably aim just like we do in game where the gun points where you look similar to modern attack helicopters
@maverickwilliams1937
@maverickwilliams1937 4 жыл бұрын
I gotta say these are really good videos 👌 I have a theoretical question. If the scarab was actually designed to be effective with automatic turrets like the sea wiz, to make it a lot like a land ship. Wouldn't it reasonably have legs to be able to traverse pretty much all terrain?
@benguthrie3286
@benguthrie3286 4 жыл бұрын
The turret rotation might be linked to the helmet like on the apatche helecopter
@thorshammer7883
@thorshammer7883 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the Starcraft Terran Siege tank?
@Capt.Jack021
@Capt.Jack021 4 жыл бұрын
Funny thing about the Scorpion is that it appears to have Vertical Volute or Horizontal Volute suspension. Same suspension used on the M2 Medium, M3 Lee, M4 Shermans.
@ghriszlybare2547
@ghriszlybare2547 4 жыл бұрын
"you either get firepower or troop capacity, you cant have both." You sir must have never put 4 marines with rocket launchers in a transport hog. Go play "the storm" in halo 3 and then try to tell me you can't have both
@LoveFor298Yen
@LoveFor298Yen 4 жыл бұрын
I’d kill to see you dissect SupCom: FA vehicles
@nathaniel1207
@nathaniel1207 3 жыл бұрын
hey, this is a little late, but you dont discuss the roller and guide horn method on the T-34. it uses rollers in the drive wheel to push on the guide horn, and doesnt have any visible teeth, apart from the tracks guide horns.
@mastory_md5548
@mastory_md5548 4 жыл бұрын
May I ask you to use metric system with imperial? Because for me it's very difficult understand measurements and other things lol
@ronaldleuma7037
@ronaldleuma7037 4 жыл бұрын
Can you look at Starcraft? I wanna know your thoughts mainly on the siege tank.
@Robloxman01
@Robloxman01 4 жыл бұрын
One thing worth noting is that there are basically two versions of the Scorpion. One that we don't see in game, which is supposed to be a 2 man vehicle that doesn't have the pintle MG, and one that replaces the second crewman with a dumb AI (or a smart AI if the driver has one) that handles most of the actual workload and enhance situational awareness. Also, I imagine it uses cameras mounted on the turret and hull to see 360 much like modern unmanned turret designs do, and the feed from them is routed into the smartlink HUD that every UNSC soldier has built into their armor.
@christianlee1693
@christianlee1693 4 жыл бұрын
The scarab might be made out some super light alien space magic armor hence why it just falls to bits
@tallguy8719
@tallguy8719 4 жыл бұрын
**from a distance** "HEY YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH."
@theaveragegamer7221
@theaveragegamer7221 4 жыл бұрын
A scarab is literally just dropped from orbit from, I assume, small Covanent cruisers and are deployed like ODST. Except instead of a pod it is the pod with anti tank and anti air guns. So I assume its role instead of being a main battle mech it is there to suprise and disrupt enemy lines until friendly forces arrive to support their advance or it is destroyed.
@aleksanderbialy8146
@aleksanderbialy8146 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video on the artillery vehicles of the UNSC, such as the cobra, kodiak, rhino, or the large transporters such as the elephant (the civilian version olifant as well), and mammoth
@slumberingember
@slumberingember 4 жыл бұрын
Dont forget the wolverine. It's not artillery but it needs love. Actually it can volley rockets into the ground like artillery. So I guess it counts
@GLynham
@GLynham 4 жыл бұрын
Could the low ground pressure be for higher gravity worlds? If the tank weighs x3 then that's a lot of pressure.
@Alfredox314
@Alfredox314 4 жыл бұрын
"If your tank cannot aim, it cannot fight" you sir, have not played halo enough.
@annuity4410
@annuity4410 4 жыл бұрын
The helmets in halo can link to the tech of vehicles so maybe the hud in the helmet acts like the aiming mechanism for the turret
@GaryHamad
@GaryHamad 4 жыл бұрын
When you gonna review Valkyria Chronicles Series Tank?
@Two-EyedShockwave
@Two-EyedShockwave 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a review on the vehicles of a game called Planestside 2?
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