Everything Wrong With Exodus 31 in the Bible

[@mitchellminer9597]

So Moses grows up in Egypt, where stoneworking is, like, everything - there is even a writing system for chiselling into stone. So Moses goes up a mountain covered with stones, and comes back down with tablets made of stone, with writing chiselled into the stone. Yeah, that's totally a miracle.

[@aliciadavis8872]

Its gaaaawd remember 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@drathonix9930]

Are you kidding? NOT A MIRACLE? Its a miracle that Moses was able to write down every single rule God created!

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

If Moses came back down with an iPad, now that maybe would be a miracle. Or if he landed in a helicopter. Funny how god's miracles are stuck in whatever primitive age they "appear".

[@RFWalsh81]

Moses works in mysterious ways ! Kidding screw that crap

[@alguno1010101]

The miracle is that God could fit all this stuff inside only two tablets, I wonder if he used a very small font or he gave Moses two really big tablets.

[@davidroosa4561]

God seriously needs an editor. and a psychiatrist

[@jeanine219]

@@harveywabbit9541 Exactly!

[@BrianH7]

I believe the Bible, what do you think about me?

[@terrimartin5663]

@@BrianH7 You can believe, but don't ridicule others for their opinions . . . such as the tooth fairy, Santa Claus, and the Easter bunny. At least those fictitious characters are innocuous.

[@margaretbarrett6087]

And an ‘anger management’ course.

[@blackice9088]

And some work on his short-term memory!

[@while.coyote]

"Thou shalt not kill!" "Except if they're working on saturday, then kill the shit out of them."

[@kelvinlion8839]

He's saying that he gave humans artistic talent so that they may make stuff just for him instead of using their own creativity. I'll create whatever art I want and I don't care if I do it on the Sabbath.

[@beverlybarnes3122]

I know right. God could create the whole universe. But he can't make himself a piece of jewelry? Come on

[@shriggs55]

@@beverlybarnes3122 And he can't think of a better way of solving the sin problem then to torture his "son" to death.Go figure.

[@treering8228]

Sunday morning church! I love it!

[@starshinedragonsong3045]

The best.

[@werewolfantipaladin]

And once more we see the commandment of Thou Shalt Now Kill has an asterisk next to it "Ok to kill anyone who works on the Sabbath. Of course work has so many connotations"

[@stevewebber707]

I'm pretty sure it's widely accepted to mean "thou shall not murder". So yes, there are a number of asterisks to define what murder is. And because those definitions are required, the commandment on it's own is so simplified and vague as to be nearly meaningless. And the work on the sabbath rules also gets complex. If you want a chuckle, google fishing line around Manhattan.

[@whatwouldjudydo_]

@@stevewebber707 wow.. just wow imagine being stuck in those rules and the literal loopholes lol talk about jumping through hoops

[@beverlybarnes3122]

Have we come to the party yet or a man was picking up sticks on the sabbath to cook with. And they killed him for it Seems like you could just be murdered for just about anything back in those days Kind of like the Taliban now I'm glad I'm an atheist

[@visaman]

It is considered work to turn a light switch on or off during the Sabbath, so you would be in the dark all day or in the light.

[@parkb5320]

I love how back in the day, God couldn’t shut up for a second and killed people for looking at him wrong. I guess we should consider ourselves lucky that Gods been absent for millenniums.

[@visaman]

Maybe another god took over while He was resting?

[@ManOfFa1th]

@@harveywabbit9541 Can you tell me where in Deuteronomy 32 does it talk about a phallus god? I want to read that for myself.

[@ManOfFa1th]

@@harveywabbit9541 Moses is referring to God (of the Bible) as a rock in the context of a metaphor, not a literal rock. The metaphor of the rock points to God being strong, steadfast, and consistent, not easily moved or shaken and a refuge for those in need. Reading the whole chapter in the full context of what is being said will give a deeper understanding. Deuteronomy 32:4 “He is the Rock, his works are perfect, and all his ways are just, a faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he”. You see the same metaphor used in that verse too.

[@ManOfFa1th]

@@harveywabbit9541 “‘You have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I carried you on eagles’ wings, and brought you to Myself.” ‭‭Exodus‬ ‭19:4‬ ‭AMP‬‬. How does that verse connect to the Greek god zesus ? Also, I wanted to go back to my last response for a second. I explained how “the rock” was a metaphor and not something literally, you didn’t address my response.

[@ManOfFa1th]

@@harveywabbit9541 Are you saying that the events that took place in Egypt that lead to Israel coming out of Egypt and going into the promise land wasn’t real? That the writer was speaking metaphorically? And Moses along with the others you mentioned, their not real individuals?

[@idaniluz652]

remember 11 chapters ago, when god said "thou shalt not kill"? yeah, neither does god.

[@PA1606X]

@@harveywabbit9541 Hi Harvey, missed you last week. And exactly what evidence do you have for that statement, citations please and somthing less than a 150 years old would be appreciated.

[@PA1606X]

@@georgeaguilar6996 Hi George answer one is didn't happen, answer two is reasons.

[@idaniluz652]

@@georgeaguilar6996 why do I need to tell you that? I just pointed out that god banned killing yet he has no problem giving the death penalty for working on the Sabbath.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@georgeaguilar6996 they were put in danger, and their ancestors, of being 'corrupted' though, because some mad angel got owed to keep powers and reach this world? And Adam and Eve were told nothing useful about him, or to know good from evil, or stakes to more than two lives, I suppose? I suspect most ANGELS DID know those things, in comparison. Curious. And none of them got 'impaired' before birth with a curse, or spiritual death, either. Also, did you work yesterday or today? Or travel? A coupla thousand years ago, you might have faced, penalties, for that.

[@jeanine219]

@@georgeaguilar6996 You are a sinister character. George, once again defending and justifying mass murder of communities, families, kidnapping of virgins, rape, etc. The ethnic cleansing and burning of towns to the ground are seen in a heroic context by you. You believe that when Moses repeatedly ordered mass slaughter with sickle swords, chasing down old men, old women, toddlers, babies, little boys, little girls, whole communities of families along the way to Canaan, that this was a necessary warranted act in the name of god. Moses and co. then looted siver, gold , livestock......and the only children allowed to survive the slayings were the virgins. They kidnapped these virgins and forced them to marry into the cultish tribe that had butchered their whole family. Moses chastised the soldiers if they brought back any of the male children. Moses and the israelites lost in the dessert for 40 years? This is how they survived and thrived. Mass slaughter and looting of every town they came across.

[@williamwatson4354]

God is pretty demanding about this Sabbath rule. Pity Christians disobey it by moving it to the first day. Also, can someone explain why an all powerful entity requires rest? If he's all powerful, he shouldn't need to rest.

[@ce.ce.]

ive heard christians say that it wasnt because he was tired but he was thinking about us when he did that as he knew rest would be important for his creation or something like that

[@pineapplepenumbra]

@@ce.ce. Yep, that makes sense, because, of course, god couldn't just tell _us_ to rest a day or two every week, while saying, "Of course I don't need to, because I am, after all, god". However, _God&Son_ seem more like incompetent builders. So the father shows up, spends 6 and a half days on just 0.000,000,000,000,000,000,000,0001% of the entire project, and then throws the rest together in a morning. He erects a couple of really important artefacts* in a garden, which no one is supposed to touch, but he leaves them right in the middle, with NO barriers around them, and not even a "Do Not Touch" sign, just a warning to a couple of kids (who are only a few days old) to not eat the fruit, and then leaves (probably for _yet another_ tea break) without even checking the area for loose serpents. The kids, naturally, eat the fruit, and then he comes back and has a moan at them, before throwing them out of the nice bit of the garden and into the really shitty bit where he left all the left over debris from his shoddy, shoddy workmanship (Ted)! Then he buggers off for a couple of millennia, comes back only to flood the place, goes off again, but sends his son round a couple of millennia later. His son is _supposed_ to be a carpenter, but seems to spend more time talking, eating bread and fish and asking if anyone wants any more wine than actually doing any actual carpentry. He proves so incompetent that he somehow gets _nailed_ to a piece of wood (probably because he was pissed on all that wine he so carelessly throws around), but he does say that he'll come back while the people he's talking to are still alive, to fix the mess him and his dad left! Does he come back when he said he would? Does ANY builder or carpenter? Of course he bloody doesn't! But he does leave a message with a someone, saying that he'll be back in about 1700 years. He fails to turn up! A few years after that and he leaves another message saying he'll be back round a bit later, but he STILL fails to turn up. And so it goes on. There are even people now claiming that it won't be long now, but I'll believe it when I see it. *I say "artefacts" rather than "trees" because trees not only grow on their own, rather than being created, but they don't bear magic fruit (I would like to be proved wrong, so if anyone can produce a tree that bears magic fruit, please let me know, and NO, saying that if you eat this fruit you will notice when you're naked just won't cut it).

[@PA1606X]

@@harveywabbit9541 Citation Harvey, again less than 150 years old please. As far as I am aware it is accepted that Eloi was a Cannanite god and he definatly has a sniff of volcanoes about him. I have not seen anything that implies any of his incarnations implied a sun god. Why would the stopping the sun to correct the number of days in a year be disguised as giving a bronze aged thug a bit more time to slaughter people? And again, when do you think that the OT was written down, I have asked this before but do not seem to have had an answer.

[@jeanine219]

@@pineapplepenumbra That was a very witty synopsis of the complete history of the judeo-christian god.

[@PA1606X]

@@harveywabbit9541 Citation please you cannot just make bald arsed statements with nothing to back them up. There is absolutely nothing to indicate any of the incarnations of the Hebrew god is a sun god, that he is one of a pantheon yes, possibly a war god yes, sun god no, nada, nowt.

[@eriknystrom5839]

Yes, we know crazy stuff is going on down there , but still can’t wait to hear about it again…..

[@euateia6383]

I've been waiting for this chapter for months lol

[@TheCount991]

@@euateia6383 This chapter? Forget this chapter. I'm waiting for Song of Solomon! "Your hair is like a flock of goats. Your temples behind your veil are like the halves of a pomegranate. Your neck is like the tower of David, built with courses of stone."

[@euateia6383]

​@@TheCount991 ueahsuaehushauhe this is hilarious too

[@addictedtonotsmoking2893]

First they had Stockholm Syndrome and were accustomed to worshipping God. Now they have withdrawal symptoms and need to worship the nearest golden idol. It's not like they can pass the time by solving sudoku puzzles.

[@kennull3243]

I’ve spent years asking Christians how come their god is all powerful, but gets tired and need rest. They have no coherent answer.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@georgeaguilar6996 Except when sorting our pogroms, Inquisitions, and sectarian wars, or 'corrupted' bibles, and pro slavery agendas/passages, I guess? I suppose gathering sticks on Sabbath, deserved WAY more attention - plus a full trial and divine presence? That and mixing fabrics, ala Leviticus... Also, when suicidal pride was handed out to many angels, who was awake, at this stage...? Hmm.

[@jeanine219]

@@georgeaguilar6996 Blah, blah, blah....blah, blah, blah.

[@jeanine219]

@@georgeaguilar6996 You are a sinister character. George, once again defending and justifying mass murder of communities, families, kidnapping of virgins, rape, etc. The ethnic cleansing and burning of towns to the ground are seen in a heroic context by you. You believe that when Moses repeatedly ordered mass slaughter with sickle swords, chasing down old men, old women, toddlers, babies, little boys, little girls, whole communities of families along the way to Canaan, that this was a necessary warranted act in the name of god. Moses and co. then looted siver, gold , livestock......and the only children allowed to survive the slayings were the virgins. They kidnapped these virgins and forced them to marry into the cultish tribe that had butchered their whole family. Moses chastised the soldiers if they brought back any of the male children. Moses and the israelites lost in the dessert for 40 years? This is how they survived and thrived. Mass slaughter and looting of every town they came across.

[@jeanine219]

@@georgeaguilar6996 NO THANKS.

[@jeanine219]

@@georgeaguilar6996 You lack ethics, morals, empathy, and a grip on reality and logic. So NO RESPECT.

[@vegasemerald9657]

What’s with Yahweh/Jehovah and the death penalty? Does he have a necrophiliac bloodlust or something? “God” is like that boyfriend who would go on and on about himself on a date. He would never stop to ask to see how you’re doing or anything. I thought I was boring in conversations.

[@euateia6383]

yeah, why does everything have to be punished with death?

[@jeanine219]

@@harveywabbit9541 ...until I strike you down for violating one of my other rules.

[@jeanine219]

@@harveywabbit9541 Such injustice that in reality, often the most evil, selfish predators survive and thrive by using, abusing and then disposing of the most poor, weak, and vulnerable. Religion throughout history has been, and will continue to be the optimal tool to facilitate this phenomenon.

[@williamtoth5483]

I really don’t know how anyone believes in this book and uses it for moral guidance? So much blood shed and war over this on going battle of “my god is better then your god.” It’s all just so silly and stupid if you ask me.

[@dragowolfraven3806]

Every religion ever: My imaginary friend is better than yours😂

[@visaman]

Look at what's happening in Israel these days.

[@KeriRautenkranz]

Silly and stupid, yes. Also full-blown insanity. And incredibly dangerous for all living things on Earth.

[@satanofficial3902]

@@KeriRautenkranz Yes. Fatal.

[@merbst]

is killing on the Sabbath considered an act of working on the Sabbath?

[@lindafowler4362]

Good point I must say Am going to ask that question then why for a reasonable answer

[@xbrandi12345x]

Can you imagine going to your job on a Sunday and being put to death for it?? I guess a good way to get Sunday's off is inform your boss you don't wanna die.

[@visaman]

The Sabbath is Friday at Sundown to Saturday at Sundown.

[@satanofficial3902]

@@harveywabbit9541 Poor ol' Uranus... gets completely forgotten. But Uranus can't really be forgotten as Uranus can demand full attention from you. Immediately, if not sooner. Run, don't walk.

[@satanofficial3902]

Why have there been reports of klingons around Uranus, but not Neptune? Uranus and Neptune are so similar... What does Uranus have and Neptune doesn't?

[@fenman1954]

Oh so it was God who gave me the skill and knowledge to be an electrician , not the lectures and qualified electricians who taught me. Not sure that's how it works.

[@PabloSanchez-qu6ib]

That is you. I have the divine knowledge myself. Hmm, do I need to cut the power? Nah, and what is this metal thingy? I'll just push it with my finge...

[@KeriRautenkranz]

It works kind of like this: It allows Conmen to denigrate hard work, tenacity, intelligence and skill, take credit for the effects of same and demand payment for something you have accomplished with the help of others and totally independently of the Conmen.

[@jeanine219]

Thank-you for today´s scripture reading Hemant. So enlightening as always, re the true nature of god.

[@Gfish17]

To think Christians like to hear god talk about himself all day everyday.

[@jeremyrodriguez324]

To think that most of them lie about hearing God 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Gfish17]

@@jeremyrodriguez324 We all know Deep down that Herobrine is The way, The truth, and the Block.

[@oscargordon]

So all of the rules from Exodus 20 to 23 were written down by Moses from memory when he returned from camp on his first visit. So what is on these stone tablets from Moses’ second visit? All of these rules about boxes, tents, altars, clothes, and incense and these stone tablets are going in the fancy box. OK I guess.

[@alguno1010101]

I love how Christians will claim that doing anything they don't like, from gay people kissing to listening to hip hop, will bring God's wrath, and yet, disrespecting the Sabbath, which is such a big deal for God, is so easily brushed off because no business would lose one day of profit over something so silly like provoking God's wrath. It comes to show how money >>>> God for modern Christians.

[@YY4Me133]

I'm on your side, but it clearly says this rule is for "the Israelites."

[@alguno1010101]

@@YY4Me133 You're right, but so is the entire book of Leviticus or even the ten commandments, which also included keeping the Sabbath (which is why some Christian groups, like adventists, keep it).

[@rcblazer]

I don't know if I have brought it up before in this series or not, but when God says "Rest on the day of the Sabbath. Use it to kiss my ass." exactly which day does he mean? Growing up all my life, calendars always depicted Sunday as the FIRST day of the week, not the seventh. How funny would it be if people have been misinterpreting the day of the Sabbath for hundreds of years and no one ever noticed, including God?

[@MasterHaloOne]

Google gathering of Christ church sabbath

[@apostlepaul3363]

Sunday day of rest for the Gentiles now Saturday day of rest for the Israelites

[@danacampbell5982]

We always had to haul ass to church on Sunday, which, believe me, was work. Or, at least, a chore. Some of my most colorful adolescent battles took place on Sunday morning.

[@ogg5949]

In Judaism the sabbath begins on Friday at sundown and lasts through Saturday at sundown. Christians changed their sabbath to Sunday.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

So much for His 'ways never change'. And you could die, as this video shows, for not obeying Sabbath. Yet it cannot even be consistently the same day...

[@idaniluz652]

about the new characters that were introduced in the start, are we going to hear from them again?

[@beverlybarnes3122]

They've probably already been killed for some small infraction.

[@satanofficial3902]

Am i the only one to notice that so far there hasn't been a single mention of rubber duckies?

[@satanofficial3902]

The rubber ducky is my spirit animal and spirit guide, you know. ♫ Rubber ducky, you're the one... ♫

[@satanofficial3902]

"To rubber ducky or not to rubber ducky..." Is that even a question?

[@PBAmygdala2021]

I don't get it but I love it.

[@amykat75]

Or a hair brush. Kinda disappointed.

[@tinwhistle4402]

It never occurred to me, but realizing they were never mentioned, rubber duckies must be the work of Satan! That might also explain why they were not on Noah's ark...

[@brunozeigerts6379]

'Keep the Sabbath... again with the keeping the Sabbath! Like I'm going to forget after the thousandth time you said it.'

[@SculptyWorks]

Did anybody notice that on 31:14-17 the god first says anyone who works on the Sabbath is to be cut off from their people, and then a sentences later repeats that same idea but now it's anyone who works on the Sabbath is to be put to death? Which one is it, exile or execution?! Talk about unclear instructions! No wonder this book causes so much war and conflict.

[@SculptyWorks]

@@harveywabbit9541 That's an interesting perspective on it.

[@tere1198]

God had to refresh himself on the seventh day. Lol. With all the death and suffering from Corona virus and suffering in Afghanistan, god must be sleeping after listen to all those prayers.

[@SilverSquirrel]

God made those wasps that lay their eggs in the backs of caterpillars and every other nasty part of the natural world too; so try not to confuse him with your government or your Mom. Did the atheistic Stalin not hear the prayers of the millions he killed? How about Pol Pot? Khruschev hung 300 thousand peasants for owning their own 8 acre lots. Atheists are no better then the worst of the religious folk. Just as smug but no better.

[@jeanine219]

@@SilverSquirrel Cḿon...this behavior is part of sociopaths and psychopaths throughout history, and not just Russia. But you are condensing everything and missing the whole point: Judeo-christians SPINNING and MASKING god and bible characters who are committing psychopathic butchery and debauchery......into the moral, holy, just essence of the universe.....THAT is the treachery of it. And also SPINNING the of the mythologically based debaucherous and CORRUPT bible into ¨the inerrant word of god¨, ẗhe good booK¨, the inerrant inspired word of god¨, ¨the greatest story ever written¨. You conveniently missed that completely, and thatś the main point of ALL of this. Hypocrisy, ignorance, lies with a MASK placed on it of pseudo morality and divinity.

[@jeanine219]

@@harveywabbit9541 Yes Harvey, it has infiltrated human history in itś many versions and resulted in subtle corruption, mass ignorance, hatred, extortion all the way up to torture, mass murder, and the most unimaginable atrocities.

[@visaman]

You pray to the Holly Spirit, and the Holly Spirit relays your prayers to God, who replies when He's got the time. His "NO" box is quite large.

[@KeriRautenkranz]

Especially since a large number of his followers in Afghanistan pray to him five times a day! Seems to me that's more than Trump's tweets!

[@marienbad2]

If work is what you are paid for doing, and a preacher is paid to preach, and he preaches on a Sunday, is he working on the sabbath? Does god know about this? Is there a set order to the days or do we have to figure that out? Seems a little vague to me tbh. Another nice reading from Hemant, always makes me smile or laugh, thanks!

[@Trve_Kvlt]

@@harveywabbit9541 I prefer Wōdnesdæg, or you know, Wodensday, or more simply; day of Odin. Which is how we got Wednesday.

[@idaniluz652]

Does anyone knows when we leave the rules and go back to lore and genocide?

[@emilygordbort7300]

Probably after deuteronomy

[@scienceexplains302]

Exodus 32 mixes rules and slaughter, then 33 gets back to genocide

[@peejay4606]

peejay is ready. I look forward to these every week❤

[@MovieMakingMan]

Why does ‘god’ focus on PURE GOLD. Why does that matter to a god that supposedly could crate gold out of thin air? It doesn’t matter because all those words are OBVIOUSLY written by a man who is trying to impress other men with talks of pure gold. It’s obvious he’s appealing to their materialistic wants and certainly not any spiritual ones. You hear about gold a lot in the Bible. Why? It’s meaningless unless it’s to manipulate people with greed. This is reason number 3,265,813 why the Bible has nothing to do with any god. The Bible was written almost entirely by anonymous men and MEN ONLY. Women had zero rights and the Bible specifically says men shall dominate women. And even in the commandments women are talked about as property, like goats, chickens and asses. Remember the commandment about not coveting? But wait! Coveting is what capitalism is based on. Capitalism cannot exist without everyone coveting. So how can republicans call themselves ‘Christians’ and be capitalists at the same time? They can’t. They’re all hypocrites. All of them. I could write a book on the thousands of ways republican ‘Christians’ are hypocrites.

[@KeriRautenkranz]

Why not write a book? Or make a movie? All the cool kids are doing it!

[@MovieMakingMan]

@@KeriRautenkranz I’m actually in the process of doing so. The Bible is a treasure trove of insane ramblings written entirely by primitive men about an imaginary (and psychopathic) god.

[@c.a.t.732]

Interesting how God was so meticulous and detailed in his concern over garments and furnishings and incense, etc. back then. Human suffering, then as now, wasn't so much a focus of his attention.

[@jeanine219]

Accept on the occasions when he has a mind to facilitate it......culminating with a diabolical suffering scheme in the making for infinity no less.......but his love and justice are limitless.

[@margaretbarrett6087]

@@jeanine219 Well even sadistic gods must get their entertainment somehow !!!

[@slartibartfast3041]

Yay, my favourite Sunday service

[@tomschmidt381]

God created the universe, why does he need humans to make stuff and not just poof it into existence?

[@theunholyhorseman7139]

Questions: How was working on the so-called sabbath day disrespectful to the Hebrews' god? Why did this god have to rest on the seventh day if he's "all-powerful"? And why couldn't this god preserve all the ancient writings of his words, instead of leaving bits and scraps of papyrus, parchment, sheepskins and whatever else that had to be fitted together haphazardly and the missing gaps filled in? Answer: The Hebrews didn't know why, or how, and had to make a lot of shit up.

[@theunholyhorseman7139]

@@harveywabbit9541 - Quite logical, that!

[@lpronovost84]

I click so quickly on my notification. You are hilarious and amazing

[@tinwhistle4402]

Since god is all-knowing, she certainly knew when "inspiring" this passage to be written, that I would eventually be sitting here wanting for more, since the chapter was too short. This amounts to premeditated torture. Bad god, bad!

[@OnlyFactsPlease]

Now I'm imagining God as a particularly sadistic dominatrix. Thanks. for that.

[@azuradawn5683]

@@OnlyFactsPlease Tbh god being a sadistic torturer of humans (along the lines of us drowning Sims in a pool.. but with more gameplay options) makes a whole lot more sense to me than the whole 'all powerful all loving' BS...

[@OnlyFactsPlease]

@@azuradawn5683 I love that characterization of god that it's just playing an evil game of The Sims with extra steps. Oddly relatable. Concerningly relatable.

[@emmazoryonmoore3840]

...And I have filled him with the spirit of god.." God has a god.

[@scienceexplains302]

Doesn’t it strike anyone as strange that god is referring to itself in the 3rd person in 31:3? It says “… I (Yahweh) filled him with the spirit of Elohim.” I don’t know whether Elohim there means the generic god concept or maybe gods, as in the Canaanite council of 70, but since it doesn’t say “with my spirit”, the Exo author seems to think there were multiple gods, or at least that there is some god spirit distinct from Yahweh. (I am writing about the author’s beliefs a out Yahweh, not mine.) Monotheism was not nationwide by any means.

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

Judaism evolved from ancient Canaanite polytheism and was influenced by Babylonian religion. Early OT is all about Yahweh flexing and comparing himself to other gods. Early authors seemed to have believed in other gods and were mainly preoccupied with proving their god was bigger, better and meaner.

[@scienceexplains302]

@@tangerinetangerine4400 For the most part. Sometimes the authors promoted the belief in El as the highest god (El Elyon) and Yahweh was his local representative. That is, as you say, consistent with genial Canaanite beliefs (ethically and linguistically, the Israelites were primarily a branch of Canaanites) Dr Kipp Davis points out that the Dead Sea Scrolls version of Deuteronomy 32:8-12 clarifies that El Elyon was the chief god and Yahweh one of his underlings. The current biblical text doesn’t make sense, since the term Israel is used as if it means all people as opposed to Jacob, who represents the Jews. Jacob was Israel. Starting 22:18 in video kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWPGhX2ZjtaoaMU “When El Elyon apportioned the nations, when he divided the sons of Adam, he fixed the boundaries of the people according to the numbers of the sons of the gods (not Israel). Thus Yahweh’s portion is his people Jacob, the region of his hereditary property.” So El Elyon divvied up the land and Jacob’s people got Yahweh’s territory.

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

@@scienceexplains302 That's really interesting about Yahweh as a local rep. I also get a sense that when other gods are mentioned that their (non) existence wasn't an issue, but their inferiority. So maybe monolatry rather than monotheism. But it makes sense that monolatry (and eventually monotheism) evolved from polytheism. Then there's trinity.

[@scienceexplains302]

@@tangerinetangerine4400 “(non) existence… issue”. Almost certainly. “You shall not have any gods before me,” doesn’t make much sense if the speaker and listener don’t both believe that there *are* other gods.

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

@@scienceexplains302 indeed.

[@spazbog123]

Unions > God they gave us 2 days break where God would have us work 6 of the 7.

[@GameLeaderR]

He doesn't even pay people for their labor, he just uses the threat of violence to coerce them.

[@scerdy3]

A recommendation from Yahweh is priceless in any resume.

[@brianmorris9117]

Oh dear GOD are they finally gonna stop making more f*%#g rules?!!

[@phillip1563]

Reminder set

[@dj33036]

Why aren't christians following these rules about the Sabbath? Seems god was pretty serious about it, even threatening death for not observing his rules. Hummm, they're more hung up on whether a man can sleep with another man.

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

Somehow because of Jesus they don't have to follow any word from the bible that doesn't suit them. 🙄

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@tangerinetangerine4400 And they can't admit Christianity basically redefined the religion, for a newer world and culture, and must pretend it 'never' changed, too... Yet there Matthew 5:18 is, all the same.

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

@@chrissonofpear1384 Exactly. Same with islam. It claims shared mythical history yet it makes corrections and adds things to such an extent that it turned into a whole new religion. Well, a new copy with additions. History of religion is like a very large set of Matryoshka dolls. All related, molded to fit in and to contain. When you get to the core, it's a tiny thing full of air. 🤷‍♀️

[@davebrown6552]

What did god do on day eight that it did not do on day 7? How about day 9 or 10 or ....

[@davebrown6552]

@@harveywabbit9541 well duh! It is a question to those that think it is.

[@TheWrongBrother]

That's when the CCTV for Eden went live and he needed to check on Adam and Eve doing their thing in the bushes 😃

[@davebrown6552]

@@TheWrongBrother Yep, god must have wanted to watch eve's (and adam's) jiggly bits or he would not have created them 'in sin' god was the world's first voyeuristic 'avatar porn' pervert. I guess to be truly godlike us mere humans should be wanking every days!

[@mikemercer9513]

Not that I want you to stop, but how far were you planing to read? The whole thing? Cause thats a lot of videos lol

[@gou0630]

I hope he does the whole thing after that when a theist says " you dont know what the bible say" b I have it chapter by chapter lol

[@PBAmygdala2021]

I'm in it for the long haul!

[@FriendlyAtheist1]

Beats me!

[@lildemon666.2]

@@FriendlyAtheist1 do it

[@joseph-thewatcher]

Why stop? Would be great to listen to you read of the exploits of Joshua, David and Daniel, the story of Job and other stupid $#!+ contained in these books.

[@katieheys8564]

I love the religious adverts I get before watching this. It's kinda a guilty pleasure listen to their waffle before watching these

[@orringould7367]

God does take credit for everything

[@laurajarrell6187]

Great job, Hemant! So strange how un- omni god is in the whole first half of the old testament. Almost like a legend that builds as it goes along, lol. 👍💖🥰✌

[@darkfalcon7856]

Why did God tell him all of the rules, then tell him "By the way, I wrote all that down for you", and not just go "here are the rules I have written down for you. Read them, then ask if you need clarification"? Well, at least he gave him a written copy, and not just go "hope you memorized all that"; though it would have been funny if Moses wasn't literate...

[@d.o.m.494]

Sounds more like a home decorating contest!

[@selepeleboela4708]

So all these laws about Aaron and his sons happened during Moses' lifetime and he never asked God if his own sons will get anything? Wow! God is bitter.

[@selepeleboela4708]

@@harveywabbit9541 I know hey. But it's still funny though.

[@UrbanGardeningDIY]

HAVE YOU MADE VIDEO ABOUT John Allen Chau? The guy who went to the Sentinele Island to preach Christianity and got killed by tribesmen?

[@freedapeeple4049]

We see now that yahweh can indeed impart skills and knowledge, so what does he/she/it choose to impart? Not medicine or hygiene, or something that would actually benefit his "chosen people", but knowledge of creating monuments and structures to benefit the priesthood... Seems legit, right?

[@russellmiles2861]

I was concern that there wouldn't be any killing but thanking we have verse 14

[@philipjessop6559]

God had to rest up on the seventh day because on the eighth he had to invent Gaffer tape.

[@jeanine219]

@@harveywabbit9541 Until the sun runs out of hydrogen in about 5 billion years and itś death throes commence.

[@philipjessop6559]

@@harveywabbit9541 Then why does every bible say he does. Could they be LYING

[@ActiveAdvocate1]

It's like football players thanking God that they made the shot. Gods (plural) forbid that people take credit for their own skill, practice, and hard work. Why does God get all of the credit but none of the blame? If "he" is omnipotent, "he" should get BOTH in equal measure, shouldn't "he"?

[@visaman]

They say "Thank you Jesus!" Cutting God The Father out of it completely.

[@jojol.2630]

Still loving this series

[@jstube36]

The last part of chapter 31 was a prelude to what is to follow. Exodus 32. This is about to get real.

[@jstube36]

@@harveywabbit9541 This is the passage all the believers use to justify why bad things happen.

[@perplexedpapa]

I just can't wait to find out what happens! Is this class allowed to read ahead?

[@michaelfox2433]

This verse is the root of what I consider the biggest unintentional insult I hear from theists. As a musician I hear " god has given you such talent" or something like that....NO..years of practice, dedication, sacrifice....that's what did it not fucking magic.

[@KeriRautenkranz]

Diminishing your talent probably makes them feel better about their lack of talent.

[@michaelfox2433]

@@KeriRautenkranz Regardless of the sentiment, it's infuriating and childish.

[@dunbar9finger]

Thanking god for doctors saving your life. The idea that pride is a sin is there to serve the anti-intellectual agenda deeply embedded into many religious texts. If knowledgeable people can't claim any credit for the effort they spent trying to learn things then there is nothing wrong with other people just not even trying to learn things at all. "Pride is a sin" has the corallary "keeping your head down and belittling yourself is a virtue"

[@michaelfox2433]

@@dunbar9finger Thanking god for anything is moronic at best.

[@dragowolfraven3806]

Is the Sabbath on Sunday or Saturday? I am not religious and this always confused me. The death threats don't help.

[@kenezarblizz9834]

Since the first day is Sunday on our calendar ,seventh day church rest on Saturday and attend church,other christian denominations rest on Sunday maybe because Jesus died on Friday and rose on sunday

[@KeriRautenkranz]

The Jews and Muslims say Saturday on a week that starts on Sunday, The Russian Orthodox Chirstians say Sunday on a week that starts on Monday, and the non-Orthodox Christians say Sunday on a week that starts on Sunday maybe because few of them can read or count to seven very well. Of course you may feel free to ignore their demands or advice.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Don't forget 13 month lunar calendars - that's gotta add to the confusion...

[@scienceexplains302]

The author of Exo 31 understood (believed) the Creation to have taken 6 literal days: Exodus 31:17 (Observation of the Sabbath) will be a sign between me (Yahweh) and the Israelites forever, for in six days Yahweh made the skies (“heavens”) and the land (“earth”), and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed. The Sabbath is the seventh day - a literal day. (Edit after 8 comments: I am writing to correct apologists who try to change the meaning of Genesis in order to falsely harmonize it with science. I do not believe any gods exist or that any biblical account of creation is accurate. Edit 2: Exodus and Genesis were probably both written post Babylonian Exile. I don’t know which f the two was written first.)

[@PBAmygdala2021]

@O.P.: The questions being asked on channels such as this are: - What was the intent of those ancient authors? Were they preserving history, sharing values through story, or something else? - If history, then can we corroborate with evidence through archeology and independent attestation? So far, the evidence does not support the assertions. - Should we rely on these ancient works as demonstrations of good moral and ethical values? From this channel's plain text reading, this assertion is also highly questionable. - We also explore the motivations of the participants. For example, is one seeking truth based on demonstrable evidence (the intended purpose of science, ie. in the name of your KZbin account), or is one seeking to advocate for one's preferred conclusion. The latter is known as "confirmation bias" and is something we should all strive to avoid if we genuinely want to discover truth.

[@stevewebber707]

Discussion of how the days are meant to be interpreted is fun and all. But why does an omnipotent and unchanging God need to rest a day for refreshment?

[@scienceexplains302]

@@PBAmygdala2021 Agreed. But how does your post relate to mine?

[@scienceexplains302]

@@stevewebber707 doesn’t. The idea of omnipotence is not consistent in the Tanakh at all. I was writing only about what the author believed, not what I believe

[@jeanine219]

But of course, science has shown all of this to be mths, legend, ignorance and debauchery.

[@lildemon666.2]

Love my Sunday mornings listening to blasphemy :)

[@KeriRautenkranz]

What blasphemy? Hemant is reading scripture and explaining it clearly!

[@jeanine219]

@@KeriRautenkranz Although reading these biblical narratives is in a sense so very ¨blasphemous¨ to my intellect, my heart, my ethics and my morals. Thatś why we need Hemant to hold our hand and add some good wit and humor, while he reads it to us.

[@iamnoone9041]

I started with the genesis series yesterday and continued right into exodus today and I just want to say they were absolutely brilliant!! You had me cracking up through the whole damn thing! Thank you for all the time you put in to making these, and I am going to recommend these vids to some christian friends of mine!! Hopefully it will help them understand how ridiculous it all is!

[@iamnoone9041]

@Atheism Explained All my life. I haven't bought any of that bull since I was like 7 or 8.

[@guidojansen6720]

I'm asking myself, what if we missed a day in counting the days of the week. Sabbath wouldn't be the day we think Sabbath would be.

[@huemanzu]

keep it up man great stuff

[@brendabenjamin155]

Dang it, I might be asleep. I will definitely see you when I wake

[@jeremyrodriguez324]

If the pastors won't teach the Bible, then atheists will. How freakin stupid that people who don't even believe in the Bible are more willing to share what it says than the actual pastors who are supposed to be the experts and teachers. SMH

[@robertx8020]

WAIT? This is not a bible promotion channel? Is there no and to my happiness?

[@Hillers62]

So...If I'm a doctor, and someone has a heart attack on the sabbath, I do nothing??? Hmmmm...I guess god works in mysterious ways...

[@WhoopDeeDamnDoo]

This and the Bible Brothers podcast is my church now 🙂

[@jeanine219]

WIll have to check out that podcast.

[@Malidictus]

Honestly, after this many chapters of the Hebrew Ikea manual, I can do with a golden calf or two.

[@BrianH7]

The old testament and laws within were written for a nation in a certain period of time, it is not meant for everyone. You do realize this right?

[@Nexils]

Wait, so where do we drawn the line between what we do and don't follow. Can we just discard the bible as a whole?

[@juliebeeem9245]

listening to this on headphones. my coworker has a preacher on tv (with subtitles). he is preaching on “mental slavery of 40 years”. ugh. turn the volume up and keep my opinions to myself….for now. (new job…not time for conversations on spiritual practices/beliefs yet)

[@dinky9216]

It's convenient god/Moses plagiarised so much of the 10 commandments from the many other versions in that area of the world that predate them. It makes them so much less set in stone, as it it were.

[@_Omega_Weapon]

God really loves when people build shit of gold for him. All of "his" commands and actions are *exactly* like those of the people of those times. Not a "perfect" omni-everything being.

[@kellydalstok8900]

God has as tacky a taste as the Mango Mussolini.

[@shouhai.d3ad]

All of your videos are amazing.

[@aglenrios]

Watching you read the old testament with your quirky contemporary hermeneutic is hilarious.

[@jhill4874]

Though very little relation to the Bible, I find "The 10 Commandments" much more interesting and entertaining.

[@reb3liouss0ul61]

Man this book is such a drag but I listen because of you 😂

[@blackice9088]

Thou shall not kill...but meanwhile the punishment for breaking almost any of the commandments is death!

[@corwin32]

Feng shui, interior design, esthetics-Uri’s got it on lock

[@nedludd7622]

Any, the Exodus never happened. Read "The Bible Unearthed". There is also a video, probably still on YT. If you haven't had your daily dose of hogwash, just type in any Bible verse number like this one and you will find dozens of explanations for the profane. Then there is also a strange thing in that it seems that some Bible versions leave out Genesis 38. Indeed, there are a lot of explanations of why some things are left out of newer translations and explanations why dozens of early books were left out. Not that I bothered to waste my time reading such BS.

[@PA1606X]

@@harveywabbit9541 Citation Harvey, Tammuz is Summerian and a fertility god, Dumuzi is is his Akkadian precurser. Adonai is Hewbrew for lords and became a synonym for Eloihim in temple rituals, it is also used to indicate kingship (Samual). Adonis is a pretty youth, he was conceived by incest spent, eight months year shagging Aphrodity and four Persephone. He was killed by a boar, nothing to do with the sun. Just because words translated from another language sound similer in English does not mean they have anything in common. Except, Adonis did have a cult in Tyre as a god of physical attraction/lust still nothing to do with the sun.

[@PA1606X]

@@harveywabbit9541 No it doesn't it means Lord, if you have evidence to the contrary let's see it because it goes against all the current scholarship. In addition I will reiterate, it is an English translation of a Hebrew word Adonis is an English translator of a Greek word they have no common root and have nothing to do with the sun.

[@Jin420]

I don't recall Exodus being this entertaining.. 😂😂

[@daffodilunderhill7066]

So these artisans were just 'given' their artistic skills by God? They didn't learn them by years of hard work and apprenticeships?

[@KeriRautenkranz]

They actually did, but Moses wanted to take the credit for it!

[@chantellenutes5435]

Why does a god need to rest? Isn’t that a human trait? There’s a loop hole right there to call bs.

[@chantellenutes5435]

@@harveywabbit9541 ok, so then are you elevating the earth to god like status? I could get on board with that. More people might actually start taking care of the earth then

[@chantellenutes5435]

@@harveywabbit9541 ok that makes your point clearer. Thanks. Imagine the impact on global environmental protection if original pagan myths, nature worship etc was more fundamentally incorporated into the world’s main religious text? First Nations people of Australia tell dreaming stories, such as that of K’gari the female creator spirit which lies off the Queensland coast (now called Fraser Island). It’s so nice there, one can dig a shallow hole in the ground to access fresh drinking water. It’s no wonder the Butchulla people saw that place as an embodiment of a god. Sadly today, the main surf side beach is a 4wd highway, biodiversity threatened by massive (really massive) bushfires, and in the neighbouring town of Hervey Bay in a cafe you can buy a K’gari burger. 😞

[@kenlyneham4105]

We all know what was going on at the bottom of that big hill. The people were concerned when Moses was gone so long and thinking their holy leader would not return, they sought another god to help them. So Aaron collected their gold and had a golden calf cast so they could worship it. It was then Moses arrived back and seeing his people sinning he took those stone tablets carved by the finger of god, and not thinking how precious and unique they were, smashed them into pieces. Talk about a hissy fit! The people were then punished when Moses ground the golden calf into dust and made them eat it, but Aaron the brother of Moses? Well he pretty well got off scott-free.

[@palerider1313]

Have you ever done the game when you see how many times you would die from breaking the rules in the bible? Only two or three yesterday for me, had some tasty shrimp on my salad, when to the beach so work on the sabbath for those that say it’s on Saturday and impure thoughts about the hot ladies in bikinis. But I think it was 37 of the death rules I’ve broken

[@jhill4874]

Except the police, army and emergency rooms in Israel don't take the sabbath off.

[@DoctaOsiris]

Oh man, I missed the premiere again... 😔

[@bjarne3521]

I am waiting!

[@stiofanofirghil1916]

Before this video I got an ad for the Church of the Latter Day Saints!!😂 KZbin irony!! 😂

[@addictedtonotsmoking2893]

Meanwhile, at the bottom of the mountain, everyone who had Stockholm Syndrome, compelling them to worship God, now has withdrawal symptoms, compelling them to worship the nearest golden idol. It's not like they can pass the time by solving sudoku puzzles.

[@18wheeler77]

I know what’s gonna happen! Moses is gonna through a baby tantrum and break the two stones.

[@TheMagnificentGman]

Puny god

[@tomellis4750]

The talking in lists sounds like politicians, and would you trust them?

[@TheOicyu812]

I'm proud to have been the 666th person to give this video a thumbs-up.

[@superslacker87]

At one chapter a week, it's anyone looking forward to hearing Hemant's commentary over a 22.8-year span? Assuming he sticks with the 66-book version, that is.

[@stevencook9526]

A lot better than church

[@jeneb52]

Ah a loophole in the narrative! Yet God's into bling, buildings, and fancy clothing on his main people - sounds like the Catholic church!

[@shriggs55]

Hmmm? You might have something there.