Everything Wrong With Exodus 32 in the Bible

[@DrBear-rk4qb]

I love how your videos show that when you read the Bible as we would any other book (instead of assuming it's literally the word of God), we realize how bizarre and horrifying it actually is.

[@Craxin01]

Can you imagine if the Bible didn't exist for the last few millennia (give or take) and someone tried to put it out today how poorly it would be received? They'd try to put the author into a psychiatric facility.

[@dainland432]

My father is a Baptist minister and this has, for a long time, been my argument. He has never read it like he would any other book. He reads it how he was TAUGHT to read it. If it weren't for his bias, he would likely see it the way I do. It's fucking nuts!

[@DelaneyAugustineWalk]

You guys understand that this was before TV correct? There weren’t any actual books passed around. This stuff was oral. I didn’t watch this video, but I watched one about Genesis… A lot of this stuff is done in parables. A lot of it is extreme so you won’t forget the story because you couldn’t take it with you. A lot of it is what not to do. over 2000 years ago. The most incredible thing about all of this is this channel is able to monetize what’s wrong with something. Should we make a channel about how the Marvel movies didn’t really happen?

[@Craxin01]

@@DelaneyAugustineWalk Absolutely... If anyone ON EARTH thought the Marvel movies were real. People think the Bible is a history text, and it's self contradictory.

[@DelaneyAugustineWalk]

@@Craxin01 I get that uninspiring Christians ruin this for a lot of people. but those aren’t the people to sway anyone. you wouldn’t ask an Amish person about electrical work on your house. The Bible is filled with wisdom. Human beings wrestling with their conscious for over 2000 years. people could pick me apart all day, but what good would it do? We all have something to offer and religion is crammed with offerings from all sides. This guy running this channel is willfully not seeing it or giving it any context

[@michaelzedd2540]

Aaron when confronted by Moses about the calf: “It wasn’t me” Good to know Shaggy’s “It wasn’t me” defense has been around for thousands of years.

[@jayt9608]

I think it goes back to Adam who blamed his eating of the fruit on Eve, who in her turn blamed the serpent.

[@VisiblyPinkUnicorn]

Moses: "What did you do??" Aaron: 1) I repent and beg for mercy! 2) I didn't know the laws of God. Please, forgive me. 3) Be warned I will not go down without a fight! 4) It wasn't me (Charisma - 100% success chance)

[@alexalbuquerquerodriguesal108]

@@VisiblyPinkUnicorn Well, It's written in the Bible he invested a lot of skill points on speech skill, no wonder he's such a silver tong devil.

[@VisiblyPinkUnicorn]

​@@alexalbuquerquerodriguesal108 "I see I was mistaken, your words have moved me. You're free from any charge, Aaron" - Moses.

[@interman7715]

God makes the entire universe in 6 days and takes 40 days to carve a few commandments hmmm.

[@yadabub]

Give the guy a break. He was distracted by all of the smoke.

[@blackice9088]

Yes because stone carving is so *hard* and it takes so long!

[@euateia6383]

Moses be like: No, God, don't murder my people! ... Let us murder ourselves instead!

[@Malidictus]

This makes no sense. Moses talks God down from murder... only to order murder himself. Did I flip over two pages at once?

[@idaniluz652]

Finally some god approved murder, the reason why we all started this series.

[@kingzach74]

Uh it happened numerous times before.

[@jeanine219]

@@kingzach74 One example being when god ordered abraham to forcibly tie up his own son Isaac, prepare him for butchery and burning, lay him on an alter, all of which abraham did. He then pulled out a knife preparing to plunge it into the child. Can you image the psychological trauma a child would have for the rest of his life.

[@alguno1010101]

And completely random murder, I mean, why were those 3000 people specifically killed?

[@jeanine219]

@@alguno1010101 Just based on some inauspicious rolling of Yahweh's serial killing dice?

[@hamjudo]

Here is what I learned from this series. Genesis is _The First Book Of Genocides._ Exodus is _The Second Book Of Genocides._

[@jannettb7930]

This is why churches don't require their congregations to read the Bible cover to cover like an actual book. In fact, I was given all sorts of excuses why I should not. Between leaving the jw's and becoming atheist, I spent a few years looking for god in several different churches and books and reading the bible all the way through. Every church that I went to advised me not to. You're not ready. God will show you which verses he needs you to read. Read the verses with the sermons, you need the context and the message with it. If you read it all the way through, it's harder to cherry pick a sentence and pretend god meant a different modern meaning to it.

[@keithkeith340]

I was told the same... I'm so saddened that my parents were afflicted by this bible BS..

[@Neko.Virtual]

this is one of the reasons why protestants separated from the catholics, the general population wasn't recommended to read the bible

[@realandar]

Wait a minute! So the two tablets contained all the instructions for the last few chapters? You know, the ark, the dress, the tent, the alter, the sacrifice, etc. I think you underestimated the font size and the size of the tablets. Where did they get the fork lift?

[@Quvan]

Unknown fact (maybe) of Moses: He was bestowed upon him a pair of manly arms and a hulking chest. Called the Manly Arms of MO and the Hulk of Moses' chest.

[@dwaneanderson8039]

He wrote it in shorthand.

[@Quvan]

As a child, I used to hope that Sunday school was short. Now with Hemet, and an adult, I hope it is more than a chapter.

[@janniemostert4688]

Amen brother/sister

[@andrewstoddard6717]

@@janniemostert4688 sibling person?

[@Quvan]

Brother. Just don't call me brother Numpsi.

[@klaasriphagen8646]

The best remedy for Christianity is reading and explaning the Bible like Hemet shows us. He is doing a great job, please continue.

[@b.lonewolf417]

Ya know, when I was a young boy, this would have been in the Bible Belt, back during the 1990s! I was not even age 10 yet, but I remember hearing *THIS VERY STORY* in our regularly scheduled "Bible" class -- even though this was, um, a public school...but whatever. Still, I remember hearing THIS story, followed later by *several* other incidents of God condemning various Israelites to death for one "sin" or another. In all my childlike naivete, I asked my Bible teacher a single question: "If God keeps killing so many Israelites, won't he run out of people to create his 'great nation'?" *From the mouths of babes, right?* 😅

[@robertmiller9735]

Maybe that's why the Exodus has such an absurdly inflated number of Israelite escapees. A margin for wastage...

[@b.lonewolf417]

@@robertmiller9735 Sometimes I really hate having a dark sense of humor, because I laughed out loud at that! Even if I am morally and ethically opposed to Yahweh's actions...

[@jeanine219]

@@b.lonewolf417 THis horrific subject matter contained in the good book, mandates all of us to have a DARK sense of humor, if we can muster one up at all.

[@robertmiller9735]

@@b.lonewolf417 I suppose it's unlikely they meant it that way, but not impossible. There are things in the Bible that are clearly responses to skeptics. The question occurred to me too (in the 70's), but I'd already realized it wasn't a good idea to ask it out loud.

[@chrispark5570]

@@harveywabbit9541 Lots of people could tell you very funny stories of how words mean one thing in one language, and something very different in another. Unless you can draw a specific parallel showing how that's what the Israelites, "really," meant, it's simply a bare fact. I'd have to verify your source on that fact as well. It doesn't mean that Israel in Hebrew means identification with Saturn.

[@hamjudo]

Here is what I learned from this series. Genesis is _The First Book Of Genocides,_ Exodus is _The Second Book Of Genocides._

[@theugliestmanever5728]

This series needs to go all the way through. I love Hemant's approach to the Bible.

[@superslacker87]

Do you have 22.8 years at a chapter a week?

[@PBAmygdala2021]

I'm up for it!

[@accretiondisk5552]

@@superslacker87 Yep!

[@theugliestmanever5728]

@@superslacker87 You underestimate my patience for Hemant.

[@mandolinbee]

"it's the golden blob that's making him mad" - I freaking lost it lol lol lol

[@finnilyenough]

This is so much better than going to church 💀

[@b.lonewolf417]

Some of my Christian family back home will often post memes and such on Facebook, essentially virtue-signalling about how *THEY* will be in church "this Sunday morning". Ironic, because I take great pride in the fact that *MY* Sunday mornings are spent, well, somewhere that *isn't* church! 🤣

[@burninghammerstudios7033]

its crazy that my whole life ive only ever been taught how good god was and not anything like what he actually did

[@johnnehrich9601]

"If it's Hemant, it must be Sunday!"

[@skepticdank1121]

A true test of morality would have been to choose the people who refuse to kill even at the direct command of god

[@jeanine219]

In the bible....virtues like bravery, integrity, morality, ethics, empathy, intelligence are discouraged and punished. In contrast, murder, ethnic cleansing, plunder, looting, kidnapping virgins, rape, rituals, superstition, and acting exclusively on ego and primordial urges, are promoted as godly and rewarded in the bible

[@markedwards3647]

For most of the last half million years, the survival of your tribe depended on killing your neighbors and taking their assets- or they would kill you and take your assets. Morality has started to change, very recently, and only in a few places. Only when aggressors faced total extermination, has there been the beginnings of change.

[@jeanine219]

@@markedwards3647 You can't make a blanket statement like that, defending broad based religious and other historical barbarianism by trying to make it look normal and necessary. You lost your credibility.

[@brunozeigerts6379]

Come on... we know Moses had fifteen commandments. 'Children of Israel, I have brought you fifteen...'Crash. 'Ten commandments!'

[@realandar]

So Moses talks god out of murder, then he goes out there and orders all that murdering. So he makes the rules now? And the boss is good with that?

[@idaniluz652]

and Moses won't get punished for ordering the murder, despite the "thou shalt not kill" rule.

[@shriggs55]

It was the fictionalized Moses that was always making the rules.He was the man behind the curtain.

[@kevinvorster9777]

Yahweh keeps bragging how he delivered the Israelites out of Egypt. But he is the one who kept hardening Pharaoh's heart to keep them there.

[@blackice9088]

One of my main arguments I use when I hear how "loving and benevolent" god supposedly was/is...the god of the bible (if he truly existed and spoiler alert: he doesn't) is/was a malevolent monster not worthy of any worship or appreciation of any kind...

[@benbontrager8900]

Hardening his heart is a literary work that does not mean that God hardened His heart. It’s a whole lot deeper than a reply can do, but yeah I thought the same thing until further study

[@michaelzedd2540]

Thank you Hemant. I never noticed that Aaron tried to pretend the calf just came out of the fire on its own. So, what’s he trying to imply? Was the calf a real god that formed itself into existence? Is that the kind of story Israelites believed back then? Talk about gullible.

[@markozagar]

"God's aim is very bad" - or maybe the plague gun is a blunderbuss?

[@shriggs55]

"God" had a blunderbuss method of dealing with Israel and their enemies.Often killing tons of innocents for the sins of a few.Like when he condemned all of humanity for the "sins"of two people.If that's not blunderbuss I don't know what is.

[@The_Other_Ghost]

The key thing: Aaron, the guy that Moses talked through was the one that thought of the calf.

[@jeanine219]

Bible debauchery exhibit # 32 from Exodus, as read so eloquently by Hemant.

[@Richard_Nickerson]

Why is anyone following Moses in the 1st place? 1st he says that God is gonna get them out of Egypt, but then God is consistently the one making the pharaoh make them stay in Egypt. Moses claims that God informed him of the golden calf beforehand and that Moses prevented God from committing genocide committing genocide, but then Moses comes down the mountain and acts like he is seeing the stuff for the very 1st time and behaves exactly the same way that he just convinced God not to behave. Why would anyone fall for this?

[@WilddogAB]

Let's just take a moment before this video to applaud this man for doing something that most Christians have never done, which is to read this great book of fairy tales. I can't wait for Jonah and the Whale 🐳🤸. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@idaniluz652]

fun fact: you can't survive inside a whale for 3 days. almost like that story was made up by a human who didn't really understand whale anatomy.

[@benbontrager8900]

Haha, wouldn’t be a miracle if you could do it huh? I do love this comment though it’s like actually funny. Good on you also for knowing about the stories of the Bible! I applaud you for your study. But I will say this, if God isn’t real, describe the chances of the world being created. 0.000000000001 to the 40th power of this planet being created just as it is, and even crazier, explain how something just casually grows a heart and organs that let it live

[@benbontrager8900]

Moses is depicting the breaking of the covenant in which God just wrote. Much deeper than anything you said

[@cutienerdgirl]

The more I read the Bible, the less I became Christian.

[@peejay4606]

another jem, Hemant. ❤you. your humor throughout this has made me convert..yes I have seen the light. I've been bathed. I've been cleansed. the love has came inside me. thanks to you, Hemant, I am born again. 😁👍

[@xolisilesithole8768]

Thank you for another upload ❤

[@d.o.m.494]

How many red flags did people ignore when deciding that bible god was good?

[@blackice9088]

All of them...

[@abcd-ev7jg]

According to Einstein, human stupidity has no limits ... But God surpasses it. Perhaps it shows that god is omnipotent.

[@bellezavudd]

"All Knowing Ignorance." Yeah, lets worship it !!!

[@sulas548]

I guess that when god was downloading all the 'omni' apps he took the full package and got 'omnidumb', 'omniangry' and omnipsychopath. He clearly deleted the 'omnilove' app very early on though.

[@bradleymosman8325]

In the context of all that can be known, you, me, and Einstein are very little smarter than ape.

[@Neko.Virtual]

Einstein believed in god

[@joyceandrews1617]

Where did the people who were slaves for 400 years get enough gold jewelry to make even a small calf?

[@Octoberfurst]

I was pondering that too. How much gold jewelry did they have? I'm guessing this golden calf was the size of a kitten. Pretty sad if you ask me.

[@b.lonewolf417]

I think it was said earlier in Exodus that they went around asking their Egyptian neighbors for precious metals and such...and God basically "hypnotized" the Egyptians into complying? Not fully sure, though...

[@jeanine219]

Also, Moses repeatedly ordered mass slaughter of whole communities of families along the way to Canaan. They then looted siver, gold , livestock......and the only children allowed to survive the slayings were the virgins. They kidnapped these virgins and then forced them to have sex with and marry into the cultish tribe that had butchered their whole family. Moses chastised the soldiers if they brought back any of the male children, then ordered these remaining children to be taken away and slaughtered. Moses and the israelites lost in the dessert for 40 years? This is how they survived and thrived. Mass slaughter and looting of every town they came across.

[@Acehamster]

Came for the biblical mass murder, was not disappointed. Nice work Moses, no wonder you’re god’s favourite

[@tomsenior7405]

"And The Lord God said unto Moses; All The Jews shall have oblong noses. Except for Aaron, I shall give him a square one". Reading the Bible when I was a child, I don't think I found any of it to be true. Even at 6 years old, it just seemed very, very silly.

[@darkfalcon7856]

Wait... Moses was about to deliver the rules God just stated, and his people were breaking the rules, and God gets pissed off, like they already knew the rules... What... the... actual f*ck?

[@markedwards3647]

Most gods are modeled after the most vicious psychopaths the writers have ever met. This is almost universal. Note how a modern psychopath has been given divine authority by people who call themselves "Christians."

[@markedwards3647]

@@harveywabbit9541 Hey, I'm in favor- Provided his exit is the same as JC's

[@jojol.2630]

Great sunday video as always!

[@davidbudge8359]

I love the fact that all through the bible Yahweh is Omnihypocritical and nobody in Christianity mentions this super power.

[@stylis666]

They do show that they're made in his image, so I guess they do, by imitating their god, which is the greatest form of flattery. They all worship a god that says its a loving god and wants worship and only on the basis of faith, which isn't loving but abusive and narcissistic, so they worship an abusive narcissist and believe it's loving and worth worship, which shows they think it's too stupid to know he's being abusive. Theism is by definition self contradictory and hypocritical unless you believe your god is evil or it doesn't ask for worship or belief and therefor isn't one of any religion.

[@chrispark5570]

@@stylis666 You'll convince yourself of anything to suppress the truth that God is, and that you've sinned against Him. It's easy for a rightly condemned person to rail against the unfairness of The Judge on the way to their rightly ordered punishment.

[@chrispark5570]

You'll convince yourself of anything to suppress the truth that God is, and that you've sinned against Him. It's easy for a rightly condemned person to rail against the unfairness of The Judge on the way to their rightly ordered punishment.

[@davidbudge8359]

@@chrispark5570 no thanks I will stay in the 20th century enjoy your booze age ethics oops meant bronze but as Jesus was a party boy turning water into wine enjoy the booze, after that party did he change Mary's name to Sharon and make her wear a tutu?

[@laurajarrell6187]

Friendly Atheist! Hemant, the thing that always bugged me is how Aaron is not blamed at all! He and sons become the priests ! You'd think, after all the 'miracles', they'd have waited a bit ! 👍🥰💖✌

[@yadabub]

If there's one thing that we've learned, it's that God likes to kill people. The golden calf was just an excuse for a 3000 human sacrifice to Yahweh. It's kind of like how Judas was a required component of the Jesus' suicide. Sadly, Judas felt guilty anyway, or perhaps he was just following in Christ's footsteps. O_o

[@sulas548]

After Aaron demonstrated the ability to brazenly lie without feeling guilty he would be an ideal contender for the role of priest.

[@WetDoggo]

Almost like Moses realized he totally fucked up, then telling his followers that God absolutely wanted to wipe them out for not believing him and he totally stopped God from doing this, because he is sooo amazing 😂😂

[@shriggs55]

Moses did not go up on that mountain for forty days! And it's not like that mountain was a beautiful mountain like in Colorado or Washington.It was a piece of rock in the desert,probably about the size of Space Mountain at Disneyland.There's no way a very,very old senior citizen is gonna climb up and down that "mountain".Not without some steroids anyhow-much less carrying two solid stone tablets.Moses probably had an oasis on the other side of the mountain that had plenty of water,fruit,mushrooms,and peyote buttons-I mean manna-to eat until his heart/stomach was content.Who knows,he might have had a couple of virgins,I mean servants, their with him.This would all be hilarious if this jive didn't have such an influence on the masses.

[@jeanine219]

@@harveywabbit9541 ....and god mandated slaughtering of 3,000 brothers, friends and neighbors.

[@WetDoggo]

@@harveywabbit9541 both are my favorite Hobbys 👌

[@chrispark5570]

@@shriggs55 There are plenty of old mountain people who could climb farther than either of us. Besides that, it's only impossible if you assume that the supernatural is impossible; which is a presupposition rather than a conclusion. Where did you get your sources about the oasis, etc.? Were they eyewitness accounts?

[@tomellis4750]

Why a calf, why not the whole leg?

[@DonDueed]

It was a major award!

[@b.lonewolf417]

LOL!

[@donsample1002]

Remember a few chapters back when God commanded everyone to "borrow" as much gold and jewelry from their Egyptian neighbours before they left. It's almost like this "omniscient" being was setting them up for this.

[@littlesunshine9805]

😲😲😲🤯🤯🤯 oh my gosh you are right!!! I just realized that now ...

[@defenestratefalsehoods]

The all knowing god should have known to send Moses back before his people made the golden calf.

[@kevinbailey8827]

The all knowing god’s plan called for 3000 fewer Israelites.

[@shriggs55]

"God" already told Moses what was going on down below before he even left the mountain.I guess Moses had a reactive personality.

[@b.lonewolf417]

I know! It's like, damn, give the poor people a break! They haven't even received that whole "graven images" rule yet... 😱

[@dwaneanderson8039]

An all knowing God should have told Aaron to not make the calf, but that would make too much sense.

[@alguno1010101]

sorry but making sure that his golden box and Aaron's outfit were completely right was more important

[@emmazoryonmoore3840]

"Moses went back to the Lord." Where? Did God build a castle on the mountain where Moses could just run and find him?

[@kellydalstok8900]

The mountain was a volcano. That’s why god’s voice thunders.

[@yadabub]

@@kellydalstok8900 'God! Come out of the volcano!" /everyone dies/ 'God! Go back in the volcano!'

[@stefanheinzmann7319]

Not a castle. A burning bush. That's where gods dwell.

[@benbontrager8900]

God resided on mount sinai. That was his set apart place, Moses has already met Him there 3 times up to this point. Interesting question actually. God has resided among the Israelites the whole time throigh what is called theophanies, or basically tangible visuals of God through smoke and fire, thunder and lightning, and so forth. God would have just resided on the Mountain to either represent the power than He holds, or this is just what He chose as His dwelling place🤷‍♂️

[@KZSoze]

Interesting how “slaves” casually had a virtual Fort Knox sized amount of gold on them. Not that any other parts of the story sound particularly credible.

[@fordprefect5304]

@@harveywabbit9541 Hey guy, how are you doing? Haven't seen your posts in a while. Keep up the good work

[@WhoopDeeDamnDoo]

In the 80s when I was 6 a deacon at the Church of Christ we attended walked up to me (a young boy), took my earring out of my recently pierced ear, handed it to me and walked away. Later, he used Exodus 32:2 as his reason. My family didn't do anything about it but, even then, I knew that 1) he just didn't think a boy should wear an earring, and 2) THAT'S NOT THE EFFING CONTEXT! I've just recently been unpacking my upbringing and even though I'm only a few years into truly identifying as atheist, it probably started there.

[@MatthewCaunsfield]

I love Aaron trying wriggle out his crime when caught red handed! Classic sit com moment from the Bible

[@Nivola1953]

Why this Exodus 32 storyline sounds so familiar? You know the evangelical preachers instead of Aaron and Trump = Calf, with the attack on the Capitol like the killing of the 3000? Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire

[@blede8649]

Wow, I had no idea Moses invented Goldschläger !

[@realandar]

How long did it take to ground the entire calf to powder? It would take me a couple of days with a good file. He must have used a power tool. Oh, and gold sinks in water. How stupid are these writers?

[@robertmiller9735]

@@harveywabbit9541 Do you have sources for all this stuff? 'Cause it sure sounds like your source is chemical.

[@Octoberfurst]

Very stupid.

[@robertmiller9735]

@@harveywabbit9541 Unless you can show a source, I'm going to assume it's from your imagination. Quite vivid; you should write fantasy.

[@b.lonewolf417]

I supposed it's possible Moses could have dissolved the gold in a "superacid" like Aqua Regia -- and then neutralized it with a super-base... 🤣

[@robertmiller9735]

@@b.lonewolf417 Assuming his society were that advanced in chemistry (hardly impossible). Or, of course, the scribe or priest who wrote the story didn't bother to consult with a goldsmith.

[@skepticsinister]

You’re voice is glorious sanity on a Sunday morning 👍🏽. Love you HM

[@uncharteredterritory]

Gold melts at 1948 °F (1064°C). How did they collect gold from everyone, and melt it into a calf way before Moses came down from the mountain. He was away only 40 days😂 And did they need gold from everyone?😂

[@almitrahopkins1873]

The crafting of a golden calf only makes sense if the exodus story is a corruption of the events that occurred during the reign of Tutankhamun. The bull was the symbol of Hathor. Where would slaves have gotten gold anyway?

[@benbontrager8900]

The probably got the gold from the plundering the Egyptians before the Exodus event. The same gold that they might use to build the tabernacle

[@almitrahopkins1873]

@@benbontrager8900 Or they were well-paid mercenaries and the "promised land" was the territories in Canaan that was promised to them by Anhkenaten. Considering that the borders of Egypt extended to Kadesh, in modern-day Syria, for the majority of the 18th and 19th dynasties, my explanation is more plausible. Nefertiti, the great wife of Anhkenaten was Syriac. And the kingdom of Mitanni still existed at the time, between the Hittite and Assyrian kingdoms, which simply transfers the location of the events mythologized in the Exodus farther north. The restoration of the temples after the Amarna period would explain the construction of an effigy of Hathor in the golden calf story, since the armies of the generals under Tutanhkamun also restored their effigies.

[@benbontrager8900]

@@almitrahopkins1873 how do you know when this happened? Can’t be plausible if you can’t have an exact date😬🤷‍♂️

[@almitrahopkins1873]

@@benbontrager8900 There is no evidence whatsoever of Hebrew slaves in the numbers presented in Exodus, but the Amarna letters include mention of Hebirru mercenaries. That would put the date at the tail end of the 18th dynasty.

[@benbontrager8900]

@@almitrahopkins1873 My point, is that you don’t know when the Exodus event takes place. There’s no way of knowing so A. What you’re saying is in no way shape or form more or less accurate than what you’re denying which is biblical text. And B. You can’t make an argument out of something you’re not sure of because then you’re just leading people astray. I get where you’re coming from but what makes more sense, a leading nation such as Egypt has slaves, or mercenaries from God just show up and kill a bunch of people(Hebrew slaves). Either way there are Hebrew slaves in the equation……

[@kevinbailey8827]

Did the Levites kill their literal brothers? All of their brothers would also be part of the tribe of Levi, and this chapter says that all the Levites rushed to Moses’s side when he called them.

[@danacampbell5982]

Good point.

[@markedwards3647]

Apparently, mass fratricide wasn't that uncommon. A couple of hundred years later, a Roman military disciplinary technique was decimation: 90% of an offending group was ordered to kill 10% of their fellows.

[@Neko.Virtual]

Levi and Simeon literally killed a whole city when their sister Dinah slept with Shechem and Jacob said their descendants will be just as cruel so it's probably a reference to that

[@thinkconsider2639]

So let me get this straight… Yahweh purposely abandons the Israelites for an arbitrary number of days (40), then says he is going to kill them (which he knew the whole time this would happen since he is omniscient), then Moses (a mere mortal) talks him out of it; then Moses commands them to slaughter each other anyway saying it’s God’s degree, then goes back to God pleading with him to spare them, then God says he will still punish them though they had already been punished. This makes absolutely no sense and I’m ashamed I believed this garbage when I was a Christian.

[@johnnehrich9601]

"I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky." There are about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (that's 1 billion trillion) stars in the observable universe. Total world population today is just over 7-1/2 billion and obviously only a small percent would claim lineage to Abraham, etc. God lied yet again. And he promised to give the Promised Land to ALL these people. What is that - a grain of sand each?

[@hipparchos]

Probably they're referring to the visible stars in the night sky which are about 6,000 . Which is of course a very low number for a people, it goes to show that whoever wrote this chapter had no idea how many stars are visible and /or thought that 6,000 is a huge number

[@shriggs55]

@@hipparchos Yeah,maybe when the Bible says that to God, a thousand days is as a day,to him,it would have been much more impressive,especially to 21st century and 20th century people,for him to have said a trillion days is as a nanosecond to God.You are probably right.To the people in the old and new testament days,a thousand was like a trillion-to them.

[@johnnehrich9601]

@@hipparchos Our eyes (and the humans who wrote the bible) can only see stars with a magnitude of 6 or so. However, the Milky Way itself is visible, even if one can't make out individual stars, some 100-400 billion stars, and there are some 2 trillion galaxies (each with a like number of stars). Surely god, if he was really making this claim, would be able to count EXACTLY. Once again, the a verse in the bible is written with the extremely limited knowledge of the world of bronze age people and NOT that of an all-known deity.

[@jeanine219]

@@johnnehrich9601 To imagine that our sun is one of 200 billion stars in our Milky Way Galaxy. Just our galaxy alone is 100,000 light years across and 30,000 light years deep. That means it takes light, which travels at 186,000 miles/ second, 100,000 years just to make it across our galaxy. The closest galaxy to ours is the Andromeda Galaxy, which is almost 3 million light years away. So if we look at it through a telescope, we are seeing it as it looked 3 million years ago. And there are hundreds of billions of galaxies in the visible universe. Based on String theory, one idea is there may be many universes out there (multiverse theory). Somehow that is all comforting to me, because it makes me realize how insignificant my individual existence really is, and helps make the finality of death make more sense. Seeing the big picture that science shows us, takes away a lot of the ego and narcissism that homosapiens have evolved toward.......as in people who have to believe that their individual existence will never end, and a deity is following them around answering their prayers with magic......hence, a focus on mythological religiosity, loss of logic and critical thinking, disregard for science and knowledge. Religions facilitate an abandonment of the reality around us, in exchange for a magical, egocentric virtual reality and pursuit of ignorance. THe following is a beautiful time lapse video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6utanmkhr2ggKs

[@peteralleyman1388]

A grain of sand each, but no oil. The only piece of land in the region without the black stuff...

[@hitman5782]

"Now let me run away..., to a place where nobody can see what is actually happening, where i will talk to god." Every Christian:"Sounds reasonable." Every atheist:"Wait, isn´t god everywhere? Why go on a mountain to talk to him? And why is god using stones to write stuff on?"

[@Ulford]

I so love this fairy tale. Good work Hemant. Please keep them coming.

[@eriknystrom5839]

I knew bad things were going on down there and the “dancing around the golden calf” as they preferred saying in Sunday school. But they never taught us about the mass murder..

[@ShikataGaNai100]

"Beware of The Blob." - Theme from original movie, The Blob

[@davidoliver9551]

Captivated since genesis one! Thank you!

[@TheCount991]

It really concerns me how often people have to remind God of the promises he made. Why would I trust a deity that has to constantly be convinced not to break his word? Also, I'm not an expert on metal, but I'm confused. He burned the gold. Can you do that? Wouldn't it melt? And then after it presumably melted, he ground it into powder?

[@Neko.Virtual]

yeah I don't see how liquid gold became powder

[@benbontrager8900]

There are many thoughts behind this question of why God has to be reminded. One being this, God isn’t in need of reminder but is rather testing Moses to see if he actually cares for this people. God spoke of a commandment that said not to maliciously murder, but that is different than kill. To take a life for solid reason, such as our death row, seems to be valid, but maliciously man slaughtering innocent people for no reason is not valid, however both exist. It’s hard to explain to be honest, it takes years and years of study to understand what is going on here. I recently wrote a paper about exodus 32 and I got 15 pages in with simply 4 verses. It’s a lot

[@werewolfantipaladin]

Few questions. While God is going over all those rules and such, Why Did he take so long to tell Moses to tell him what His people were doing? Why did Aaron so readily agree to make the idol? Just how long was Moses on that mountain? No one went to check? How many participated in the frenzy of idol worship.

[@suiicretaro171]

In an earlier chapter it is stated Moses was 30 day and 30 night on the mountain I think.

[@carlosalbertodomardossanto515]

first, imagine you with a omnicient god beside you, who would stop your hand every single time you is doing something wrong. Imagine yourself and a person, a friend, eventually your friend comit mistakes, would you keep stopping him all the time, If I where this friend of your I´d be crazy at you, I´d hate you. second, in the chapter we can notice he was a losing vote on the issue, at the point that if he dwnied that people probably would have him killed along with his family. what you might notice is that he tryies to name the calf in an attempt of minimize the severity of the sin third, no one went to check because they feared to go up on the mountain, there was, the text says, clouds, fire, lightnings around the mountain, and reading the text we can even notice the people thenself was willing to believe that the Lord was a real god, but one of the many they used to worship in the Egypt, they just had left their old ways of life, they were too long alone and they desperate themselves. (What does not justify the orgy they´ve done after naming it adoration) what takes to the fourth question, probably only a feel remained loyal to moses and to God, among them the levites and maybe others. it´s what can be takes from the reading of the chapter

[@carlosalbertodomardossanto515]

*aaron tries to name the calf as The Lord in the first answer. I am sorry for my english mistakes I don´t speak english as well as I should

[@Neko.Virtual]

he was testing his people to see if they would worship the calf

[@jarofcomics]

Moses:” Oh, so when they’re corrupt they’re my people?!?”

[@jamesburke2110]

yep just like the afghan fuck up is Trump's fault

[@korpse6rinder]

The only thing written by god itself, was destroyed in a temper tantrum... Why isn't everyone looking for those fragments with gods handwriting and language on it?

[@blackice9088]

Because they don't exist, and they never did...

[@purplekitten6637]

This chapter is insane. Honestly, at this point, with so many flawed characters, I don't even know who I'm supposed to root for in this story.

[@solentbum]

They were only Ratner Earrings, no great loss.

[@bigdaddygoon828]

It's real telling how the god is telling Moses that that's Moses people and that Moses bring them out of Egypt but then Moses tells the god that's your people and you bring them out of Egypt so I'm confused who people is it because clearly from the first part he don't want nothing to do with them it's almost like two different stories put together 😂😂

[@michaelzedd2540]

It reminds me of the bickering ancestors in “Mulan”. When Mulan first runs away, they both say, “She gets it from Your side of the family.” After she returns a hero, they both say, “She gets it from MY side of the family.”

[@bigdaddygoon828]

@@michaelzedd2540 lol

[@michaelzedd2540]

In summary, since its earliest beginnings, Christianity involved worshiping man-made gods. So little has changed.

[@bellezavudd]

And worshipping gods borrowed from older religions. Yep. Same old tradition of stealing traditions.

[@exillens]

Exodus is judaism not christianity. Christianity came later out of judaism and other popular religions in the roman empire

[@bellezavudd]

@@exillens You do realise the bible the entire bible, is a christian holy book. And just like islam was built on christianity, christianity was built on Judaism. Which was built on Zoroastrianism and Canaanite religions. And surely those had previous sources also. Just like art history religious history is built on previous cultures and generations creative ideas.

[@exillens]

@@bellezavudd The old testament books have nothing to do with christianity. Just because christians compiled them into their canon after branching out of judaism doesn't make them christian. Christianity was simply a new, amalgamated, apocalyptic, messianic Jewish sect out of the Roman influenced empire that most Torah keeping jews rejected. Exodus is literally one of the main books of the jewish Torah. It has nothing to do with christianity. Christians made the OT apart of their theology by cherry picking and reinterpreting certain verses. My point is exodus was not written with christianity in mind

[@bellezavudd]

@@exillens Of course none of the old testament was written with christianity in mind. Christianity was a creation thousands of years in the future when the torah was made. However there are christian denominations which do focus on old testament claiming their god has shown them that jesus is all over the old testament . So they do put all lot of study and emphasis on it. They love to play headgames with themselves.

[@foppishdilletaunt9911]

Oh, look ! Moishele is schlepping down the mountain with some fancy-schmancy tablets - finally all this Exodus mishigas is going to make sense and everything will be made clear and the meaning of life will be explained. Let’s have a barbecue ! Oy ! Which one of you schlemiels made a golden statue of a leg 🦵? Its got cankles for Xrist’s sake... Savagely funny, Mr Mehta - one of your best !!!

[@jokich6379]

In the wilderness? They had plenty to sacrifice offerings, drink, and have a festival.

[@dublinhomes1951]

Lord Shiva and Calf (Nandi) were worshiped in all the continents on this planet. Exodus 32: 5-6 "...he build an alter in front of the calf..." The calf (Nandi) is always facing the Shiva Ling stone alter. "...the people rose early and sacrificed burnt offerings and presented fellowship offerings." These people were Hindus, and the practice of "Yagya" Fire offerings and offer burnt ash to Lord Shiva. Exodus 32:19-20: "And he took the calf the people had made and burned it in the fire; then he ground it to powder, scattered it on the water and made the Israelites drink it." First, when you burn gold, it's liquid gold, it is NOT in a powder form. The powder is from the stone alter, "Shiva Ling" which he grounded. Exodus 32:27-29: This implies God and Moses ordered to destroy The Hindu temples of Hindu gods, Shiva & his calf Nandi, and kill Hindus, abduct Hindu girls/women and rape them.

[@dublinhomes1951]

- "Indus Valley Civilization" in today's Afghanistan & Pakistan region, was prominent with Hindus/Buddhists/Jains/Sikhs/Surya, now there near 0 minorities in Afghanistan. In 1970s, there were 700,000 Hindus & Sikhs, and in 50 years they are reduced to 0. - European subcontinent (ALL the White people) were ALL Pagans and were reduced down to 0, and the last remaining in the 18th century were burnt alive as witches. - South American subcontinent was home to Incas & Mayans were reduced down to 0 in less than 52 years. - North American subcontinent were home to over 500+ nations of Native Americans tribes, and now they are reduced to 0. (School textbooks says they all died of deceases) - African subcontinent were home to civilizations like "Kingdom of Kush (Lord Ram's second son)" with capital Kerma (Karma), Egyptian Civilization all reduced to 0. - Indonesia, Malaysia and the Pacific Islanders were home to Hindus & Buddhist and they are reduced to 0. What does this tell you?

[@dublinhomes1951]

@@harveywabbit9541 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsis "Parsis" were prosecuted and forcefully converted to Islam. Some of them escaped in boats and landed in the shores of India as refugees. The King, of that region send a "full cup of milk" to the leader of the Parsi as a message. The leader of the Parsi, thought and thought and then added "sugar" in the the cup of milk and then send it back to the King. The King was very delighted and gave the Parsis refuge in India. The Parsis of India are to this date very sweet community, the most successful (like the Ratan Tata, etc) and contributes to India.

[@dublinhomes1951]

@@harveywabbit9541 Wow, didn't know it's a palindrome except the last letter: SURYA(C) => CYRUS 😊

[@blackice9088]

And the omniscient god knowing how (ir)revelant the commandments would be though the ages, had to put in the one about boiling a baby goat in its own mother's milk...yep, that's one wise god alright...or not...

[@puirYorick]

Aaron totally copping a false plea in this one, "I threw it into the fire and a calf came out..." like a brat caught red handed with half a cookie in his hands claiming he was next to the cookie jar and a cookie jumped into his mouth.

[@WetDoggo]

How can Moses even burn gold? 😂🤔

[@kevinbailey8827]

What equipment did he use to grind it into powder? The Bible suggests that he did it all in a fit of rage, but all of this must have taken some time and fairly specific goldsmithing skills. And only after that did Moses order the Golden Calf Massacre.

[@shriggs55]

Evidently,the Egyptians taught Pharaoh's right hand man,Moses,blacksmithing.Probably as a hobby.

[@b.lonewolf417]

I suppose it depends on the melting temperature of gold, and whether they were capable of producing a fire that hot.

[@WetDoggo]

@@b.lonewolf417 you can't burn gold is what I was going on about 😁 (edit: well you can "burn" gold in a chlorine atmosphere... But I doubt he was carrying around containers of chlorine🤔)

[@WetDoggo]

@@b.lonewolf417 the melting point of gold is roughly around 1000°C, which is pretty achievable with a large fire with enough airflow. But that's not burning

[@zecuse]

Exodus 32:11-14, I'm getting Genesis 18:22-33 vibes. Exodus 32:19-20, Is that the golden calf? You can't burn gold! At best, it's just going to get a coat of carbon. Otherwise, assuming it's not still molten, everyone's going to have some pretty expensive shit in a few hours! Exodus 32:27-29, Oh! I should have waited. THAT'S how they're getting some of the gold back.

[@markchip1]

Exodus 32: - Aka - "Moses does a bit of deity-shaming and saves the day!"

[@alguno1010101]

Insert the meme of Spongebob and Patrick in the middle of the burning city, "we did it Moses, we saved the day!"

[@robertjimenez5984]

What makes this worse is that this Aaron after doing all this shit is named the highest representative of god. It’s all in the family🤣🤣.

[@Nivola1953]

You know that the Catholic Christians , practically edited the current version of the Bible. Isn’t it strange that in Italy ,my country of birth and that of Christianity, almost no family owns a Bible, we don’t go to Sunday school to read It, nobody I knew or met ever talked or mention anything from it? Even the family of my first cousin who became a nun, never owned the holy book and ever mention it. I’m guessing that after 2000 years the Italian Catholics came to realise how bad was the book🤔🤭🤫

[@benbontrager8900]

I’m not exactly sure what you are saying, but allow me to clarify. The original Biblical text is actually the only book to not be edited throughout it’s entirety and, interestingly enough, is the only book with more than 300 original copies, being 5000+. So I would say that the text hasn’t changed. I can’t speak for certain religious breakouts because they could have done whatever they want, but real the original language and see what I’m talking about.

[@benbontrager8900]

I’m not exactly sure what you are saying, but allow me to clarify. The original Biblical text is actually the only book to not be edited throughout it’s entirety and, interestingly enough, is the only book with more than 300 original copies, being 5000+. So I would say that the text hasn’t changed. I can’t speak for certain religious breakouts because they could have done whatever they want, but real the original language and see what I’m talking about.

[@getasimbe]

I find this chapter quite fascinating. I think some historical context here actually makes the chapter more interesting, and explains some of the seemingly bizarre behavior of the Israelites in Moses' absence. Without context, it seems pretty ridiculous that the Israelites just started worshipping a golden calf statue out of nowhere. But first of all, Aaron didn't arbitrarily choose a calf. Bear in the mind the Israelites came out of Canaan. And in the Canaanite pantheon of gods, several of them take the form of a calf/bull, including the infamous Baal whom Yahweh seems to especially hate. Furthermore, back then the Canaanites (and other middle Eastern folks) believed that their gods were literally in the sculptures and places that they built, not just that the figures were a representation. This is also why the tabernacle was so important. They believed Yahweh literally lived inside it. Finally, the Israelites, being from Canaan, also believed that there were many real gods, but Yahweh was their own god. They weren't monotheistic, but rather monolatrous. So when Moses was gone for so long, they likely thought "well, guess we've been forsaken by Yahweh, let's move on and worship another god and maybe this one will protect us and be our god instead". This also explains why the supposed one true God gets so made about graven images and idols, especially those of Baal, and claims the he himself is a jealous God. There's no one else to be jealous of if you're the only real God. I recommend Patheos' intro to Biblical Archaelogy series; they touch on some of these things: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIjaeHmMfKZ9hpI

[@BileDuctBalderdash]

By your many paragraphs. You seem to have made your mind up. So go be at peace

[@getasimbe]

@@BileDuctBalderdash What are you talking about?

[@juba9575]

Why did God write on a breakable material, instead of writing on steel or rubber? Why did it take God 40 days to write 10 sentences on a stone. So Moses abandoned people in the harsh desert for over a month and expected them not to move on?

[@Craxin01]

Either A) God is totally incompetent, B) The Israelites are easily manipulated, or C) BOTH. I think I'm going with C.

[@herbiehopkins]

Aaron and The Golden Blob!

[@jeanine219]

​@ polish sausage....there is nothing in these rudimentary bible narratives that are NOT trivial, menial, and depraved.

[@XDRONIN]

*To be fair* This supposed "history" was written hundreds of years after.

[@tshiamo3524]

and the details are very much conserved...🤔😶

[@JeffreyChadwell]

So, we finally got to the story of Mooby.

[@corwin32]

I read that as, “if you can’t forgive them, leave my name out of it, ok?”

[@benbontrager8900]

Welp acrually that’s not it. Moses is saying that if these people can’t be forgiven, take me instead. He is giving himself up for this people so that they can continue on.

[@BrandonBlomquist]

He didn't blot the sinners out of his book, he made the whole thing all about them. What a freakshow.

[@leviathan6326]

To be fair, they can see a statue. They can't see Yaldabaoth

[@DavidFraser007]

It's the most ridiculous story. A bunch of bored people in the desert with nothing to do except wait, so they invent a new cow god made from earrings.

[@thekeywizard3313]

What kind of gold can be "burned and ground it to powder,"?? Yes, I know there is such a thing as gold dust, but it takes a lot of work to melt a golden calf down into pure gold and then grind it into powder, we are talking weeks of work! Then the gold would all sink to the bottom of the container holding the water! I wonder who kept that mixing bowl?

[@AngryBilleh]

I feel personally attacked now, I spent my stimulus on a blowup doll, and just like god? It never showed up

[@corydensley7631]

Wait, did I miss something? Weren't these people just slaves? Where did they get gold jewelry? Was the definition of slave different back then? Or did they do some looting on their way out of Egypt?

[@erictan8432]

In the whole history of the world, these are the only things literally written with the finger of God and he smashes them! Would anyone who believes in God do this? Then leaves the pieces there to be lost forever. This sounds like total fiction. Plus, in Exodus 20, the Israelites were trembling at the power of God. Now they've forgotten him. Bible writer needs a good editor.

[@carlosalbertodomardossanto515]

let´s suspend the unbelief for a while. for a man who sees good, what is a tablet with his letter? it´d be important for us now? what if we found the pieces on the mountaing today? would you believe it was written by god? of course no!! so Moses noticed the unimportance of these objects. For a man who desperately believes in a "voice in his head" and (accordind to the bible) meets with good every single morning in a tent, two tablets doesn´really matters. It just makes sense if you assume moses had a relationship with God. but if you are trying to find proofs of his existence, to destroy one of them is just stupidity

[@benbontrager8900]

The breaking of the tablets is a depiction that the covenant has been broken

[@erictan8432]

@@benbontrager8900 So, Moses going back up and tediously sculpting his own tablets in many days and putting them out of sight in the ark instead of picking up the pieces that God wrote is ...?

[@benbontrager8900]

@@erictan8432 So, now that the covenant between God and humans is destroyed, there is no covenant. However in chapter 33 it talks of a new covenant to come. I would assume that God probably also “wrote” on these. This is the same God that can breathe and the universe comes into existence. I’m not sure if there indications of new tablets or not but either way it is symbolism for broken covenants

[@gregnorris8279]

My friend, I think I have it figured. Seeing as Moses went to Mt Sinai, that’s the problem. The trip from Egypt to the ‘promised land’, is obvious. Like you said, 3-4 week, tops. But they took the scenic route and took in Mt Sinai. Add to that, Moses was old, so to climb the mountain probably took 2 years 🤣😂😀

[@a35362]

When I was a kid and they used to show The Ten Commandments on TV every year at Easter, I figured, "These people were slaves until very recently, and they haven't figured out how to look after themselves and make good choices. They sure give up on Moses and start partying pretty quickly!"

[@grapeshot]

Yeah and drinking liquid gold that would be extremely toxic considering the mercury.

[@kevinbailey8827]

They would have called that a plague.

[@Ouchthatwasmyheart]

I need more of these a week. Hurry up! 😂

[@chuchodrill]

Man I use to watch all your videos, idk how I lost your subscription, can’t wait to catch up, I was wondering what happened to you.

[@eddiethatvoguy7901]

Murder is bad, right? But Mose and his people get to do a lot of it? Am I missing something?

[@jhill4874]

Apparently your brain wasn't programmed adequately when you were young.

[@Neko.Virtual]

Moses is not murdering anyone, he is just doing what god tells him to do

[@mitchellminer9597]

God sure knows how to choose people.

[@TheWrongBrother]

Aaron backtracked real quick. I wonder if he was wearing that gold and gems corset he got just recently to 'serve' the lord to that all night burning man 🎉 🤣