Everything Wrong With Frozen 2 In Delayed Sequel Minutes

Frozen was fine--Wreck it Ralph was better! But Frozen 2? We only got Frozen 2 because Frozen 1 made so much money. (Sigh.) But I guess we better count the sins in Frozen 2, now that it's a thing.
Remember, no movie is without sin! Which movie's sins should we expose next?!
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[@k1zm3t]

"well at least they have their parents..." "their parents are *_dead_* " that recap of the first film is my favourite bit

[@TheKoriKasai]

That exact part was my favorite

[@cintronproductions9430]

That part made me burst into laughter. XD

[@k1zm3t]

@@cintronproductions9430 it made everyone laugh! we went to see it on a school reward trip

[@Taikeb0]

That's definitely the best part of the whole movie xD

[@sallyroslin4634]

Omg right?

[@shannonwatson5769]

The reason why the people of her kingdom were all up and dressed ready for the evacuation is because she woke them up minutes earlier by screaming “into the unknown” from her balcony

[@ekaluraw4376]

Hahahahaha that makes sense actually. I can finally sleep in peace

[@RandomPerson-qr5no]

Wow- That actually makes a lot of sense. They were probably getting ready to go tell Elsa something for waking them up 💀💀

[@rainbowmoon1461]

Oh great. The queen is singing loudly to herself again. Now what crazy thing is she about to do?

[@amalie5446]

Omg I'm laughing

[@JoeMathTheGamer]

Don’t whoosh me, but that’s not true. It would wake them up, not tell them there impending doom.

[@SiddharthShenoy]

*Ah yes, The Five Elemental Spirits:* Air, Earth, Fire, Water and *Slightly Colder Water.*

[@panzerkampfwagenviausf.b2236]

ah yes, mythology

[@mjthecat7346]

Ikr

[@MasterHall117]

Shoulda been plasma if ye asked me Wait, somebody explain why the covenant is at my place already?

[@carlosmattessich3883]

There’s six. The sixth spirit is bullsh*t. It’s an owl for some reason.

[@aikomaliako]

But everything changed when the *Slightly Colder Water* attacked

[@amywolff2684]

him: why does a horse represent water? me: and why does a lizard represent fire?

[@igottasneeze091]

Salamander..

[@bruhwtf2662]

mandarin

[@LadyBlackVamp]

Dragons?

[@bonithechubbypotato5100]

Because lizards taste good when they're roasted over a fire.

[@ebony721]

I'd agree with the people here and say fire salamander

[@GravityFallsGuy15]

Kristoff: I know the woods. Proceeds to sing about how he’s lost in the woods

[@just1desi]

Yea we all knew he’s the type to not ask for directions

[@stephenrose8300]

Well this is like a guy refusing to ask for directions.

[@CuteNekoHibiki]

@Gravity Falls Guy [The trio of awesomeness] He's a male. They never ask directions. What did you expect?

[@MountainearAlt]

He means emotionally

[@MountainearAlt]

He's emotionally lost

[@dbseamz]

I agree that Elsa wouldn’t find “Let it Go” as annoying as most viewers do. But have you ever heard your own voice on recording, and NOT cringed?

[@thunderbird1921]

Elsa was mentally ill at that point. NOT a positive memory in her life. I thought of Buzz Lightyear's quote: "Oh, tell me I wasn't this delusional..." That song and catwalk "dance" were like the Joker's insane dance in that new film. She was becoming more and MORE unhinged.

[@Black.Rose743]

I agree, when my voice is recorded I sound like a cartoon character and I hate it

[@Boltscrap]

@Black Rose That's just your real voice. Both air and your own bones conduct your voice, it's the bones that make it sound lower than it really is. Recordings don't lie, that's how everyone else hears you.

[@Mskittenlover12]

@@Boltscrap that's the fucking problem.

[@AikiraBeats]

Right like we shouldn't talk about that song it was just terrible

[@cookingwithcarrus]

“I’d remove all the sins from every movie and retire if Anna and Kristoff turned this into a hardcore sex film right now”

[@kaijumurmillo6630]

I was LOOKING for this comment.

[@angelikasapothecary4909]

so was i!, it would've made it better 100% cause this frozen sucked ice! lol

[@qxz584]

Dear god. I now have cursed images in my mind *thinking* of that.

[@Morningstar-Croft]

It probably exist somewhere.

[@nighttaco10blooperton8]

Just google it lmao

[@Despacito190]

Random woman in the village: “there is a 5th spirit!” Me: it’s Elsa Elsa at the end of the movie: “I am the 5th spirit” Me: *surprised pikachu face*

[@mohammedaldalan359]

I guessed it too

[@paiwho7843]

@@janzepirnar8275 Well it’s not that strange if they think that, I mean elsa’s the main character

[@swift_heart_bunnie]

Not random women. Honeymaren

[@Very-Uncorrect]

Thanks Skid and Pump, very cool

[@ohanameansfamily3434]

420th like lmaoooooo

[@SubswithNovideos-qj8mq]

“Disney will not let death be so” Every Disney characters parents:

[@spinachdip7172]

of course its blank THEY'RE DEAD

[@panzerkampfwagenviausf.b2236]

bruh

[@magnuscarlsson9969]

I wonder thou, why are so many Disney characters orphans?

[@coralline1984]

@@magnuscarlsson9969 Because Walt Disney’s mom died after he bought his parents a house that later caught on fire.

[@annawilliams1274]

are we all SURE isney did not make batman

[@adriana-ez3ji]

Why isn't there a sin about the reindeer guy having more chemistry with Kristoff than Anna

[@disco.heaven]

and that’s the tea

[@wormguylovesworms]

I KNOW. And Anna keeps getting upset and jumping to conclusions when Kristoff messes up proposing to her even though his clumsiness is supposed to be part of his charm!

[@sandman4111]

millie bobby brown wait for the next movie, Kristoff leaves her and has two kids with the other reindeer guy. That’s the movie I want to see!!

[@akabaneaki]

@@sandman4111 let me second that movie x'D

[@arctrog]

I don't know, they had good chemistry in the first movie. Feels like they already have been falling apart relationship-wise and that there is potential for dissatisfaction in the next movie as a B plot. He's probably not gay, and the chemistry is more friendship (yes on screen chemistry doesn't always mean romantic interest. There is a problem with that in Hollywood already. Especially between cis males and females. )

[@jref_28]

That sin about Anna's hair tho As a person with long hair and people having fun with it, using different hairstyles, I can confirm that it's not logical for the braid to not have a tail.

[@mariahdibben4066]

I've seen this hairstyles where the tail of the braid is tucked in and pinned on one side or whatever so it blends in. That might have been what they were going for.

[@sarahtaylor8328]

also if you do a waterfall braid its easier to hide the tail at least in my experience and when i do my hair the way anna's hair is i braid 2 braids back then pin the extra hair behind the opposite braid and let it fall it looks natural

[@LordDomielOfElysium]

It is, skill issue.

[@ianagulino6653]

In my experience with a similar hairstyle, I believe it's just one braid going from one side of her head to the other, and the tail is tucked neatly behind her ear with a little twist.

[@insertnamehere3614]

'Anna, you are the most extraordinary person I've ever known." 'Dude, Elsa's standing RIGHT THERE. That's just rude!' TEARS

[@mariahdibben4066]

Same 🤣🤣

[@Aspensblu]

I’m surprised he didn’t say anything about Anna’s “I like you better in leather” line.

[@Wawagirl17]

I was so waiting for that!

[@muhammaddaffaadhitama9158]

Because he will have to remove a sin 😂

[@muhammaddaffaadhitama9158]

Because he will have to remove a sin 😂

[@orxnges561]

what does that mean

[@saidafrhn]

@@orxnges561 There's... uhh a double meaning.

[@mettatonneo1147]

“Why does a horse represent water?” Poseidon, God of the Sea, created horses in Greek Myth?

[@queenofengland1968]

Good point though

[@scaredmage4708]

Agreed 😂

[@TheOracle.]

I just wanted to comment that, but thought: "Wait, what if someone commented this already?" So I looked and yes, someone did. Thanks :D

[@sensenzel]

oooo yeah i was gonna comment that

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture8817]

Okay but what does Greek mythology have to do with a story clearly based on a Nordic setting?

[@AWildJirachi]

Of course her song woke up the elemental spirits, she was screaming at like 3 A.M. she probably woke up the whole damn kingdom

[@icewing202]

no matter how little sense it makes, we all have to admit that the little flame spirit salamander thing is cute af and i wouldnt mind adopting it

[@genesisdawn6672]

You'd probably have to find a new home every time you'd need to visit the vet. He'd go on a fire rampage through your place.

[@jaykatara5467]

"At least they still have their parents!" "...Their parents are dead." This tiny bit is pure comedy gold. I lost my shit here the first time I saw this movie. I would have been pissed if this didn't get a sin off. Definitely agree that this is the best part of this movie

[@regen1016]

Wow so dark

[@hehehohok]

no it's "...Their parents are *_dead"_*

[@seanclarke6733]

I rented it for the fact that I simply wanted to have watched it and it was another movie under my belt and I realised I had spent my money well when that scene came

[@zechariahalanoly8648]

olaf is the only good thing abt this movie

[@rffm1879]

dark humor

[@firesd7306]

Anna: every Arendelian ship has a compartment, waterproof Olaf: that’s very clever, *though it makes you wonder why they don’t make the whole ship waterproof* Olaf would be great at CinemaSins

[@dramaticreaper]

Lmao

[@wizard_chicken1446]

I actually thought this as I was watching the movie.

[@MountainearAlt]

@@wizard_chicken1446 same

[@taylorjohnston1226]

Omfg yes

[@br34dyt]

Firestardude cuz then it would be too heavy.

[@christianberg8128]

Honestly, she is basically a goddess at this point, she controls multiple elements of nature, can create snow, ice, and SENTIENT LIFE from nothing, and can now pull images and audio from decades into the past using nothing but slight moisture left at the scene. She could run a military state where the people would have to worship her as a goddess and no one would be able to do a thing about it if she really wanted to.

[@NatLeRat]

Nobody: Cinimasins: *gives a sin for Disney showing a snowflake in a frozen movie*

[@seacolorsc]

Frozen 1: Elsa learns the importance of opening up to her sister and not handling her problems alone. Frozen 2: Elsa ditches her sister to try to solve her problems alone.

[@boomkittyFX]

frozen 2 plot twist: elsa is tripping balls talking about a mysterious voice and a forgotten forest and we are viewing her acid trip

[@Insorainity]

Frozen 1: hey would you like you to watch a girl learn how important it is to open up? Frozen 2-seconds later: Well screw that because she's gonna forget that 2 seconds after learning that

[@javierquiroz228]

Just like Venelope in Wreck It Ralph 2 ...

[@joec7217]

@@javierquiroz228 Or Ralph himself

[@YehShuhuaIsLife]

Detector: Let’s break the logic that we made with the first movie 🎥 People: Yes that’s perfect!!!

[@mariammr9132]

I feel like they had too many ideas and didn’t go deep into each one.

[@heartfullbutterfly314]

Yeah plus some of it is likely sequel baiting. Have to wait until frozen 3 to hear about xyz. They did scrap an idea for the plot so it also could be that they tried to form fit somethings together and it just felt off

[@goldenwarrior1186]

Marichu Well, at least they didn’t go too deep into one of them. Otherwise, they might’ve drowned.

[@aydanangus]

420th like.

[@ashadtellis998]

Let it go....LET IT GO!

[@thunderbird1921]

I actually recognized several plot points. Marvel influences were HUGE on this film. Elsa and Anna were honestly made like Thor and Loki in many ways, and that dusting scene was DEFINITELY inspired by Infinity War. This movie often felt like Thor: The Dark World mixed with Spiderman: Far From Home.

[@carolinesa91]

"Why does a horse represent water" that's a common representation in mythology. Poseidon, the God of the seas and water was also known as the father of the horses. It's believed that he taught humans how to tame horses.

[@tobyandahalf]

True, except this movie was based on Norse mythology, meaning the horse is a kelpie which is why it tried to drown Elsa.

[@rishi_1003]

Wrong mythology, the Norse one is Kelpie, a violent sea spirit which tried to drown her

[@glassman690]

Caroline Araujo What you've just said,remind me of Age of Mythology's Trojan horse mission. In there Odysseus said that exactly.

[@hedras924]

He also created horses, as a gift for Athens when he and Athena were competing to be Athens’ patron god?

[@aelinnight5825]

No, I think it was a salt water spring he created when competing for Athens, I think he created horses to impress Demeter or something to do with a chariot? Idk Greek Mythologoly can be confusing lol

[@Rockhound6165]

9:00 You blew it! Olaf's line after "That's very clever..." was "Although it does make me wonder why they didn't make the whole ship waterproof." I mean, Olaf would be amazing at Cinemasins. Also, this was an obvious joke about why they don't make the planes out of the same stuff they make the black boxes out of.

[@TheWindWhispers]

I'm surprised there were no Avatar: The Last Airbender jokes here.

[@seatspud]

I blame The Fire Nation. For attacking. Again.

[@kitasukirimi988]

Or Captain Planet jokes

[@moonrosesnake9911]

I made that joke at the start of the movie when Elsa and Anna dad was telling the story

[@Oof-kn8yo]

There is one but okay

[@SupermarketSweep777]

Fire, Water, Ice, Spirits. Throw in a vacuum cleaner and you have Luigi's Mansion

[@moonfruito5960]

then everything changed when the Arendellian nation attacked

[@Knockedy]

What about the fire nation what happened to them?

[@kategachalifeandmore3298]

Knockedy r/WOOOOOOOSH

[@lightninghawk5981]

Avatar The Last Airbender

[@Shizkeb]

Kate Gacha life and more every O you typed in is one more chromosome

[@awesomness6775]

Elsa: The last Snowbender

[@hi-zf6tf]

"Why is she embarrassed of Let it Go? It's an empowering song whatever he said" Me: its now turned to a song about taking a sh*t

[@neropc4844]

Fun fact is that in polish version it's ,,Mam tę moc" which means ,,I've got that power

[@whiskeyshaw8818]

Have you ever heard your own voice in a recording?

[@crystalicewolf5400]

In serbian it is ,,sad je kraj" which means ,it's over now"

[@izoneateeztxtforever369]

@@whiskeyshaw8818 i have and I hate it so ye

[@jackphoto8816]

I think we can all agree that frozen 2 seemed purely an aesthetic movie. Visuals were gorgeous, songs were great, character designs were put in slot of effort, the rest seems like it has to have a third movie just to make sense. I still feel like the movie is pleasing to watch if you don’t watch it logically and just watch it just to watch it. I still like it and the first one, I like the first one for its story and how iconic it was and the second one I like how it’s so pleasing to the eye and I like how it’s existence gave content creators more inspiration and motivation for their own frozen content. Not that I don’t feel infuriated at all the plot holes, dang it Disney give us an explanation movie or just tell us! Even some animated shorts, just answers! 👏

[@mykodibear17]

I feel like Frozen II was one of the only good Disney sequels in a long time. Don't get me wrong it wasn't perfect, the plot was a bit iffy, but I think a lot of people missed the superb character development in this movie. The characters personal problems all stem directly from their characterizations in the first movie. Anna, on top of her extremely isolated childhood, was traumatized by almost losing the only person in her life that she had left, and because of that became extremely dependent on and protective of Elsa, to the point of risking her other relationships. Frozen I basically gave her PTSD. Elsa learned to accept part of herself and let others help her deal with her problems, but the movie never addressed how she felt trapped by her responsibilities. Plus, she basically watched Anna die and blamed herself for it with all that frozen heart stuff. It makes sense that by Frozen II she'd still feel trapped, both by her responsibilities and by Anna's reliance on her, as well as that she'd feel the need to push Anna away when dangerous magic is involved. By the end of Frozen II both of these arcs are tied up into neat little bows through means that make sense. They both essentially learn that they can't just live for each other; they have to live their own lives.

[@dawnshyre4995]

I agree with you there. I love /watching/ the movie, it's beautiful, but I don't love /thinking/ about it. There's so many plot holes, especially ones that completely contradict the first movie/shorts/Jen Lee's comments.

[@MaximumManda]

Two of the songs were great, and Elsa got both of them. The soundtrack was not as good as it could have been (they cut a GREAT song 'Get This Right' for Kristoff's lame subplot), and nowhere near as good as the first film. But yeah, it's very aesthetic and this is most evident during Show Yourself--visually stunning but opens up so many plot holes about Elsa's mother and her powers.

[@BDGilly1990]

9:00 How could you not include "Olaf would be excellent at CinemaSins?" when he literally says they should make the whole ship waterproof.

[@abbypremo5835]

I actually said that in the theater 💀I was so disappointed by this

[@maya_vita]

I had the exact same thought

[@redjuelar5019]

Olaf’s sarcastic tho

[@xdoorx]

Olaf is probably the only reason I watch the movie lmao

[@Rain-qz1vl]

Was literally thinking about this when I watched it the first time xD

[@mynameisopulence]

There was a perfect chance for you to make a “Everything Changed When The Fire Nation Attacked” sin, but you didn’t. Sin for you.

[@vixen3671]

The turn tables

[@dovelove5427]

Oh my gosh! ☠️ He totally missed the opportunity! 🤣

[@macaryl95]

I was going to make this comment too.

[@andrewthefanboy1640]

I too was disappointed by the lack of avatar jokes

[@azucatgames]

I'm watching avatar currently and am hap

[@tOSdude]

Olaf: Why didn't they make the whole ship waterproof? CS: Olaf would be great at Cinemasins *Ding*

[@SteampunkHorse]

memento mori

[@markchag307]

"Man I'd be so good at writing kids movies." Me: You would!

[@bradys1667]

...but only Elsa, master of the four elements could stop them.

[@icantdecide7766]

On her journey she discovered something greater, a fifth element, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM WATER... ice

[@internum7184]

Ding.

[@bradleypearl2986]

But then, when the world needed her most, she vanished.

[@DavidRay39]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nickdiguilio343]

how did you comment before the video uploaded..

[@tsukuyomi9960]

Elsa would be excellent at Avatar: The Last Snowbender

[@felixsfriendthatgavehimthe2108]

Megamaster 64 lmao yes

[@sirdoof546]

Hishe made a joke about that.

[@gtone339]

Frozen 3: Elsa the Last Snowbender :D

[@josebeteta8283]

SuperCarlinBrothers made a theory video about how Frozen II could have been about Elsa learning to control other elements, and I kinda resent that it wasn’t entirely like that

[@tartaruganinja6438]

PIN

[@tobyandahalf]

Olaf::At least they have their parents! *Their parents are dead.* Me in the theater: **silent wheezing** Also I almost choked on a peanut M&M

[@benedictcorpuz5582]

I literally heard a few people laughing quitely at that part

[@juanrisa945]

"Why does a horse represent water?" That's no horse, its the Nokk, a mythological creature from Scandinavian myths.

[@draconix4131]

I just looked up Nokk, and you are so right.

[@mrb692]

“That’s no horse, it’s a space station!” Sorry, that’s all I could hear in my head

[@crowsandm2263]

I died of laughter when he said "Man, I'd be so great at writing kids movies." Edit: I was revived by the amount of likes I received.

[@GamerfunTheFirst]

Hell, I would watch it.

[@notactuallyacat.]

I’m down, let’s make Jeremy a director

[@awesomewolf70]

LOL

[@Junipurrs_]

Hey, i’d watch it. I likely wouldn’t make my child watch it..

[@TheHimothy1]

@@GamerfunTheFirst I would too

[@Wolfdette]

Elsa: “Everyone I’ve ever loved is here between these walls” Elsa’s parents: “first of all, that’s harsh”

[@emboz6661]

That's what I said!!!!!! But me mom said that because there dead.

[@alanih3276]

@@jayneb6053 to hide her powers

[@nickpoenisch4563]

Elsa: I know what I said.

[@gtone339]

The deleted scene in the Frozen II blu-ray/dvd extra had a scene where the parents were making a decision to let Anna know about her sister Elsa's hidden ice powers.

[@MJAYZ007]

THEIR PARENTS ARE DEAD

[@alvabrennan3969]

water spirit: water horse earth spirit: rock trolls fire spirit: cute lizard air spirit: *floating leaves*

[@chrissytiya3025]

Ice spirit : Woman

[@soupfrog8584]

ya know, cinema sins is great and all but just imagine “anime sins” edit: i swear i’ve changed as a person since i made this cringe azz comment

[@silly_.rabbit2]

Would watch it in.. 7 maybe 8 years.

[@gilgamesh7186]

I like anime and all but I'd love to watch this guy talking bout shit on anime, my sense of humour is almost inhumane

[@luxckyducky6291]

I love you, if someone doesn't make this a thing

[@MrIzzy_10]

Everything wrong with naruto just mention all of sakura's mistakes long it out and wallah

[@imnotanesp6254]

AniSins already exists

[@jtswartz1672]

9:00 You guys missed a sin: Olaf: "Why didn't they make the whole ship waterproof" CinemaSins: "Olaf would be very good at CinemaSins"

[@Tiernan422]

I watched the movie yesterday and I said that and like how did he not acknowledge that

[@rachelwysocky]

i was looking for this comment!

[@WalkingJellyfish]

I don’t know how in the USA, but in my country this joke with a waterproof ship is a joke that is older than me. Disney got so bad that they started stealing ancient jokes from the Internet for their films.

[@jazzfiore9783]

that’s EXACTLY what i thought when i saw it in theaters

[@iwantanitalianfriend8914]

@@WalkingJellyfish So that would mean any other film in the world that used "ancient jokes" or mythology would be stealing. Interesting. 😕 Too bad no one cares.

[@saxobeatswife9386]

logo: *exists* Cinemasins: so anyways i started sinning

[@stangav1590]

saxobeats wife there was once a movie that had 6 logos in a short amount of time and he took sins off.

[@snowleopard064]

In Greek mythology Poseidon created horses out of seawater and ever since they’ve been used to symbolize water. Some legends say that rogue waves are mischievous water spirits that most often take the form of a horse

[@10thletter40]

0:35 Air, Fire, Water, Earth. Long ago the four nations lived in harmony. Then everything changed when the fire nation attacked

[@joshuadieudonne3207]

Lol 😂

[@mo0njelly]

The reason that a horse represents water is because it’s supposed to be a kelpie I think, a mythical aquatic horse that fucking drowns everybody.

[@RandomRakkoon]

Anonymous Flamingo Yes I only know this from the SMT games Plus it tried to drown Elsa too

[@RandomRakkoon]

Like I said I only know them from the SMT games so I guess nokk is another name

[@leslieandry250]

I assumed it was because Posideon was the Greek god of water AND horses

[@oddly_ace2837]

@@leslieandry250 that's what i was thinking

[@robuswhitewolf4896]

YAS! YAS! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!!!

[@jacquelynkelly3730]

When you realize that the horse killed their parents...

[@li-limandragon9287]

Don’t tell that to the little girls buying the Elsa and horse doll which is why this movie was made.

[@latestdukman]

oh

[@T_E_G]

Plot twist: *The Seahorse is gonna kill her next once she's caught off gaurd*

[@finn678]

Yeah I think it's based mostly off monetization and only partially the greek mythology in wich horses were created by Poseidon, the god of sea.

[@Gaia_Seraphina]

@@finn678 Actually it's from NORSE myths. That water horse is a Nokk.

[@Ryou_Sensei]

I love that the Fire Spirit is a Salamander. Which are commonly associated with the element of fire in myths

[@indigothecat]

I got angry when watching the death scenes, because part of me knew, as impactful as Elsa and Olaf's deaths would be, Disney would be sure to bring them back. Had the 2 of them actually been allowed to perish, I think the ending could have been a lot more powerful, Ana having to step up as Queen for real and lead in spite of losing her entire family.

[@SteampunkHorse]

that would have been epic, honestly. the only reason I can think of why they didn't do that is because of the children

[@lizzykatieschindele6265]

I would watch that movie instead!

[@simonkompe2164]

I agree totally.

[@dawnshyre4995]

I would watch the hell out of Disney remakes geared towards adults that were seriously dark and let people stay dead.

[@agmt233]

"Why does a horse represent water" In greek mythology poseidon created the first horse from the sea foam, so probably that. Bit obscure though.

[@thegreenemerald800]

Or it could be because of kelpies the horses that drowned people after tricking them to ride them

[@widdlewizard]

THANK you!

[@TheAdvertisement]

It's not really obscure but yeah that's the reason

[@josephthurlow7576]

Or maybe it's a seahorse

[@pommedeterreaucitron]

Talking about greek mythology, there is a part where the guy mentions the 'dam celebration party' *instant percy jackson dam snack bar flashbacks*

[@kendellhagan2327]

I’m disappointed that he didn’t sin Anna being able to run from the giant rock monsters on FOOT!!!

[@sammehzing]

While dodging huge boulders or trees or some shit

[@sokandueler9578]

Kendell Hagan :/ in a world with alchemically elemental spirit, ice magic, and posthumous communication via said ice magic...the thing you can’t believe is that Anna can outrun a giant?

[@phoenixvalentina3629]

In heels too

[@thunderbird1921]

Is NO ONE going to point out that Elsa's "dress" for most of this film looks EXACTLY like a superhero outfit (complete with a cape)?

[@clappa2208]

Sokandueler95 she doesn't have any fricking powers, she is all human and those goddamn monsters were just.. Well, it's pretty easy to understand where I'm going here, only an idiot won't know.

[@huhhwuhh]

I'm glad I'm not the only person who felt offset by "some things never change" turning into a patriotic mood at the end lol

[@mykodibear17]

Funny thing about that first song. Everything that Anna calls out as "never changing" has changed by the end of the movie... except for Arendelle. This was supposed to be a really fun bit of foreshadowing because in the original script Arendelle was supposed to be destroyed by the dam breaking. This is also why there's a few second shot just focused on the flag; foreshadowing. That script got nixed halfway through production because Disney had just started construction of Arendelle in one of their theme parks and Arendelle being destoryed wouldn't mesh well with that. So now we have a song that doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as it should've because, to no ones surprise, Disney put money over story quality.

[@samthehypotheticaldad]

Ngl, the song “The Next Right Thing” from this movie was a huge part of my healing process throughout the tons of death I’ve had to deal with this past year. It brings me hope and encourages me to move forward, even when I can’t move on yet. It’s a beautiful song and extraordinarily powerful.

[@novaglacrr6114]

"Why does a horse represent water?" Kelpie, technically the water death horse is a kelpie. They are known for drowning and eating people. Not hate, just... Mythology. Nokk is the weird Kelpie, Gale is Gale, and Bruni is the adorable fuckery of fire.

[@alunatic4989]

Also, Poseidon (water god) made the horses

[@code_breaker3756]

And Stone giants how bout them ?

[@pjdianalan7934]

@@code_breaker3756 the Titans.

[@runningwithscissors1524]

PJ Dianalan Wouldn’t golems also work? They’re made of clay but they’re also humanoid.

[@toepaca9395]

So the murder pony term is pretty accurate, huh?

[@ariana-ff2wv]

“why does a horse represent water” Nokk, the water spirit: am i a joke to you

[@carolineb829]

Or kelpies!

[@samiabolton8024]

Oof first thing I thought was Poseidon

[@lolacortes7270]

Samia Bolton Same

[@hibam.rizwan659]

Samia Bolton yeah same it does make sense

[@lookingglassknight139]

It’s a sea horse

[@shawnsayas6542]

8:26 Personally I think the other deleted song they were going to use for this scene “Get This Right” would’ve been way more fitting for what he was doing.

[@darao.4907]

Y’know, every time Elsa sends Anna away to try and protect her from magic stuff, she almost fucking KILLS her. Great job Elsa

[@cannibalanimal5829]

The "horse" is actually called a Nøkk, a water spirit from Scandinavian mythology. Frozen takes place in Scandinavia, which is why the water spirit is a Nøkk Edit: okay, yes, i know, Poseidon too. I get it now lol.

[@thegreenemerald800]

Or it is free because Poseidon the god of the sea made the first horse out of sea foam

[@cannibalanimal5829]

@@thegreenemerald800 Well, the creators said Frozen takes place in Scandinavia, but that makes sense too

[@Antagonistic.]

The Green Emerald or it’s because there’s other mythologies and not just greek

[@grahamwragg1857]

@@Antagonistic. He Didn't say that the Greek mythology was the only mythology he just pointing something out

[@carlton24]

Magnus Chase much

[@cochranavenue]

You forgot to point out that the random fact Olaf blurted out “water has memory” became a critical plot point many times later in the movie, and if he hadn’t said that, frozen 2 would have been a lot shorter

[@higgins63]

I feel like a 6-year-old is gonna try to listen to water after hearing that.

[@tomikun8057]

Yes and water has 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds remembering anything.

[@benjamindebo9283]

I swear this movie is just a combination of The 5th element, and both Avatars (last airbender AND blue kitty people).

[@schrodingersgay6167]

I love that you call them "blue kitty people"

[@ladytopaz6358]

@@schrodingersgay6167 I’m 99% sure that that’s all people remember that movie as…

[@schrodingersgay6167]

@@ladytopaz6358 Okay, and? It's still ADORABLE

[@ladytopaz6358]

@@schrodingersgay6167 yeah I didn’t say that it wasn’t. I was just saying that when trying to recall the other Avatar movie that’s probably what people think when trying to remember what happened. I wasn’t dissing it.

[@iankennedy6945]

When Olaf said (more or less)"If there's a waterproof compartment, then I wonder why they don't make the whole ship waterproof", you should've said "Olaf would be good at CinemaSins"

[@ashterrifictales7317]

Ian K I was just thinking that too!! 😂

[@dewaunwarren1]

True

[@priscillajimenez27]

Should've removed another sin lol

[@nthgth]

Lol but they basically do, that's why ships don't sink unless something goes horribly horribly wrong

[@nightshadestudios1950]

Ian K why do we have the same thinking?

[@simsarethebest925456]

I feel like Elsa would be cringing at Let it Go because of how it represented a dark time in her life. Sure she was free, but she was alone and she ran from her issues.

[@michaelklaus]

She was critcising Anna for her poor life choices, declared she would be on her own and do not give a damn about those people... only to realize that she was very wrong.

[@Tori-mh7fg]

or, you know, sometimes it's hard to watch yourself perform because cringe

[@ch33pmeme67]

And other people would be cringing at their edgy emo phase, bUt YoU sHoUlDnT cAuSe YoU bEcAmE fReEeEeEe

[@simsarethebest925456]

@@ch33pmeme67 when people mature, they don't want to be reminded by physical reminders of when they were in a rough place. They talk about it, but they don't like seeing what they did because they wish they did it differently.

[@thunderbird1921]

Worse than that, she was mentally ill. Looking back, that song and catwalk dance were like Joker's insane dance in the new movie. More and more unhinged. Mental illness is UGLY in many ways.

[@reganmc.6640]

I feel every sin in this is relatively explainable, but you failed to mention the largest issue. Elsa was supposed to save the forest as the fifth spirit then FROZE IT. As if the not so winter bearing trees wouldn’t hibernate along w the animals eternally, because the forest is now frozen eternally. She literally killed the forest. That was my only issue tbh

[@watcherx1016]

Olaf: flurrying away My sister: mr. stark I don’t feel so good I slapped her I few times

[@AtarahDerek]

Two reasons the Nokk is a horse: 1. The Nokk in Norse mythology is a trickster similar to the Irish kelpie. Both lure people into the water to drown them. Since the Norse heavily influenced Celtic culture, the show creators decided to combine the Nokk and the kelpie. 2. In Greek mythology, horses were created by Poseidon, god of the sea, and were therefore associated with water. Since Frozen 2 uses the four classic Greek elements, it represents the water spirit with a horse.

[@mitchellschaaf602]

AtarahDerek this is probably the reason why, but also Poseidon (God of the Sea) in greek mythology created horses as well.

[@AtarahDerek]

@@mitchellschaaf602 Is there an echo in here?

[@mitchellschaaf602]

AtarahDerek awe shit, didn’t see the “read more” it ended perfectly at the first one

[@123krevis]

Is there any reason why the fire spirit is a tiny gecko? or is it a lizard? regardless

[@user-cm3td2jy4w]

@@123krevis because it's salamander. you can find them from fantasy games or fantasy stories ( like in harry potter said about salamanders the look like little lizard and living in fire their colors might be change white red or blue by the heat they're make )

[@vivia389]

I saw this movie with my mother because she loved frozen 1, and she legitimately thought kristoffs song in the woods was a joke that they were going to stop after a couple seconds

[@pringels9877]

They really made fun of Bohemian Rhapsody... just nooooo... The reason why i hate this movie so much

[@vivia389]

@@pringels9877 I don’t really hate the movie, it was ok, but frozen 1 was way better

[@eswan8900]

Kristoff: Reindeers are better than people...Sven, don't you think that's true? Me in the theater the first time I saw this: Oh, a reprise to the song from the first movie. That's cool. *movie cuts to Sven, who starts "singing" on his own* Me: Wait, what? *song keeps going* Me: Oh my god make it stop...

[@eswan8900]

@@pringels9877 I don't think they were making fun. It was just a pop culture reference.

[@gingechicken7394]

@@eswan8900 plus Jonathan Groff (voices Kristoff) covered Bohemian Rhapsody so it's actually a pretty funny reference To me at least

[@Vipdd520]

14:40 so true. that's my biggest problem with this movie. it has so many different plots and things. I love this movie, but i also felt so confused watching it. there's too much going on at once.

[@AtlasOfficial_]

Fun fact, in one of the drafts of the movie, Elsa was supposed to just die. But they didn’t want to have to say goodbye to a well loved character.

[@Kateypops]

Where’s the “and it all changed when the fire nation attacked” joke

[@reallyth0565]

Kateypops gone reduced to atoms

[@19DMartinez98]

Maybe they did not say that joke because its dumb

[@meedabuhuh3084]

We still gotta appreciate how this is a commentary on what actually happened in Norway before to the Sami people, and the other social, historical and cultural contexts and nods... It's so cool. Also, disappointed in the lack of ATLA references

[@YoshiFan15_256]

And also remember, he does hate ‘Let It Go’.

[@user-hl9ww3ml2m]

Kinda surprised they didn’t sin one of the biggest flaws of the movie: Kristoff’s plot

[@thenaughtychristmaself5261]

I know, he was almost useless in this movie.

[@knightbotthe2nd362]

Kinda surprised he only commented once or twice about the fact that this movie had no plot.

[@ZArocket]

It was just that forgettable

[@aimisofea7964]

have y'all listened to the outtake Get This Right where kristoff sings and at the end is proposed *by anna* and then she joins him singing?? (u can also look it up and watch the storyboard) yeah im still pissed off it didn't make into the movie or at least turned into a post credit scene or sumn

[@blahthebiste7924]

It is one of the better songs on the soundtrack. And it actually gives Kristoff and Anna SOME characterization (which they sorely need).

[@kookio4284]

When Christof proposed was anyone like: “Oh yeah. Christof wanted to get married” after having completely forgot because he sang a song and then just disappeared until the end of the movie.

[@indayteray8647]

Jesus Christof

[@Sobek1776]

Facts

[@keesalemon]

It was the most unsatisfying ending for Kristoff. The proposal was so ham fisted I wondered why they even bothered

[@thunderbird1921]

Did they rip off that "Lost in the Woods" scene from Guardians of the Galaxy? I seem to remember Peter Quill singing an 80s style love song while dancing in a forest.

[@RedMoonbow4921]

Cinemasins: "Everything wrong with Frozen 2" Me: "This movie shouldn't exist"

[@wrenbird_17]

I was surprised it was only eighteen minutes...not one-hundred and four minutes.

[@leagueofbullshit]

yes it shouldn't because it destroyed the whole point of the 1st movie and I would never in a billion years believing that this Elsa is the real Elsa

[@brownbrownbrown2938]

Maria cycle knob

[@wyolaskan1868]

I searched through your video list to find this, and I’m must say. I’m very disappointed that you didn’t mention Olaf’s “Makes me wonder why they didn’t make the ship waterproof”. When I first saw Frozen2, I felt that was a perfect Cinemasin observation!

[@ariamay.]

Kristoff: I know the woods The next song: lost in the woods

[@Hmmm777]

Hmm seems legit

[@arianalussier160]

Are we going to just ignore the fact that when Elsa stopped the tidal wave from hitting Arendelle, all the water just evaporated when it should've continued after the ice wall evaporated?

[@ellieholmes608]

He did mention that

[@neverland5930]

“Animation is so good these days, you can barely see strings of the merchandising department during these scenes.”

[@RoderionXanith]

Poseidon had dominion over horses, that's prolly why the horse represents water.

[@LadyKeara]

Sea horse.

[@hogusbogus7685]

Coranac yeah, but, this isn’t Greek mythology

[@cloud_sauce]

Huh, good to know. When I saw the movie I only made the link with kelpies

[@Just_Leo_kingofgods]

@@hogusbogus7685 but it makes a good logical connection. myths get referenced in stuff that aren't myths all the time

[@demonslover]

@@hogusbogus7685 do you think that matters to Disney?

[@eden_essence]

“Well, at least they have their parents!” *”Their parents are d e a d .”*

[@bananaketchup1363]

14:44 my favourite sin

[@forrestlemonds5968]

And the reason it took 20 plus years for the voice to even reach Elsa is because her power is tied to her emotions in the first movie she was working through emotional mess created throughout her younger life by her, in the second movie her power is unlocked but kind of unstable so The voice sounds like a banshee scream, instead of its actual message

[@amirulman7186]

"Aredelle treats their queen like a birthday party clown" Now I'm dying 😂

[@ThanksHermione]

I'm surprised you didn't sin Anna's immature treatment of Kristoff. She gets so easily upset, defensive, or accusatory before he's done proposing. It makes me think that the pairing is a mistake.

[@honeybun8823]

Thats because it is. If Hans didn't have to be the twist villain then him & Anna would be the perfect couple

[@stitchz626]

She is paranoid about what he thinks of her because of how people have treated her in the past (partially Hans and partially the basically having no human interaction from ages 8ish-18)

[@keziahlove6]

That was intentional. The creators wanted to illustrate how Anna was paranoid about Elsa. This is something she eventually resolves at the end. Doesn't really count as a sin.

[@dustyrose192]

@@keziahlove6In short its bad writing

[@keziahlove6]

@@dustyrose192 It's called character development, but whatever. 🙄

[@theroyalgamer6939]

"This is like me watching my cat chasing the laser dot" right after he removed a sin, ps i died of laughter

[@chrisscord4895]

"...your worthiness to advance to ATAHALABLADELA"....I died🤣

[@camusreviews6877]

Don’t act like “Lost in the Woods” wasn’t the funniest shit ever. 80’s ballad done exactly like every 80’s ballad music video

[@connerclark3678]

Camus I found it lame. Got 30 seconds in on Disney+ before I realized the gist would add nothing I didn’t already know and hit Skip-> 30secs 4 times

[@genderenigma8276]

I couldn't watch it. Kept laughing and tears were streamin down my eyes.

[@Kat-tr2ig]

No, I actually found it to be awful and cringey af, and I grew up in the 80s. The reference was lost on today's kids (my 9 year old daughter even stated that she didn't understand why that song was like that)

[@infiniteaj8688]

No one is acting, because it really wasn't. It was boring and incredibly pointless. The issue was literally never brought up again for the rest of the film. He went from feeling lost and confused and she went from feeling insecure and worried, to them suddenly being engaged. It was somehow even more convenient than the fact that destroying the dam saved Elsa.

[@Hi-ul2gc]

Actually I found it really cringey and found that part hard to watch.

[@wrenunknown6038]

So, maybe people have commented this already, but I was to put this out there just in case. The fire spirit is a salamander because, in Greek mythology, the mythological salamanders resided in fire and were resistant to it.

[@seoyeonpark469]

Wren Unknown i believe this movie’s references are largely norse, but fun fact :)

[@underlilacskyes]

I think that's why the water spirit is a horse too. Honestly, the sin should have been more along the lines of questioning why they used Greek influences at all. 1) the movie is set in or around Norway, and 2) if you're going to use Greek mythology, why not relate all of they spirits back to Greek myths?

[@josephthurlow7576]

It's actually because salemanders used to live in logs and then when the logs were burned the flaming salemanders would run out of the log so norse people beleived that those salemanders were fire spirits

[@linuslau7933]

They seem like dragons too so

[@blue00phoenix]

They have a lot of Greek and Norse references. Horses were created by Poseidon. In the first movie the book her dad looks in is written in elder Norse runes. There’s a ton more

[@its_pigeon_time]

Y’know, for a know-it-all, he did *not* realize salamanders are legit, actual fire thing.

[@Axolatto_axo]

9:11 I didn't know else can waterbend

[@spacecadetvee]

About them sharing a room when they were younger: generally in noble/royal households babies and young children would share a "nursery" (think Wendy and her brothers in Peter Pan) this was really useful for the nannies and wetnurses since all the small kids were in one place. When the kids get older they get their own rooms. Hope this helps anyone else who was wondering :)

[@alize0623]

starshine records they looked too old for a wet nurse.

[@spacecadetvee]

@@alize0623 Realistically speaking if they were real princesses and not Disney princesses they would would still have a nanny. But, nannies were sometimes called nurses (think Juliet's Nurse in Romeo and Juliet) sorry if I confused you

[@just1desi]

Also personal rooms are a relatively modern concept. Sleeping was a communal activity. Even those with their own bedroom might have a guest of the same sex assigned to sleep next to them when beds ran short. And the lower classes might pile around the fires ashes in the great hall or kitchen.

[@pixelroze2868]

Thought this was pretty normal for every class of people.

[@spacecadetvee]

@@pixelroze2868 Since Anna and Elsa are princesses it made the most sense to use noble/royal families for context.

[@mikewalker678]

You missed the part where Elsa sang that "everyone I've ever loved is inside these walls" and didn't follow up with "or at the bottom of the ocean."

[@WalkingJellyfish]

The whole joke is that Elsa is in these walls. She loves no one but herself, in fact.

[@katsisvi8097]

@@WalkingJellyfish Dont think thats it chief. She loves Anna and Olaf at the very least.

[@Anonym-kl9vf]

Spidercat How can you say that she only loves herself if she sounds like she hates herself in every scene from the movies lol

[@0verzealous_]

mikerw Did she ever love them?

[@lavernmerriweather637]

You so mean

[@virginiagreer706]

"Let this be a lesson to all of us that singing is forbidden." On March 12, 2020. This line was like a week ahead of its time.

[@addiction.5500]

14:38 Just the fact that it’s a dark empty ocean here and that she’s slowly sinking towards the bottom is terrifying. Not because Elsa would drown, just cause that ocean is horrifying.

[@vojtabenes7476]

She wouldn't drown, because she should already be dead after hitting water from such height. Like very dead. She was falling for 4-5 seconds, so her velocity must have been about 40-50 m/s and 26.8 m/s would be enough to kill you when you hit water

[@Boba069]

@@vojtabenes7476 what

[@Dangansona]

Sin: All the advertising going to "Into the Unknown" and not the INCREDIBLE "Show Yourself"

[@ryleelees986]

Dangansona that’s what I thought. Like in show yourself she learns about herself, gets a new dress and a new fortress just like in let it go.

[@LeaF-vo2mx]

I think Show Yourself is far too intense for a short ad and would also give away a really high point of the movie too early

[@luriaraymond8108]

“Show Yourself” would’ve given the climax of the plot away and “Into the Unknown” is the better teaser... which is probably why they went with it for advertising

[@quackquackx]

i do agree that Show Yourself is way better than Into the Unknown, but using that in the advertising would’ve been a TERRIBLE idea. Show Yourself is a song near the end of the movie that’s very important to the story and using it in advertising would’ve spoiled the climax of the movie, while Into the Unknown is a catchy song near the start of the movie that doesn’t spoil anything major.

[@genderenigma8276]

Hidden Gem.

[@ashleynewsome]

8:18 Kristoff: I know the woods *5 seconds later* IM LOST IN THE WOODS!

[@elizaclouds]

Me when I don't want to admit I'm wrong

[@eless4221]

Its a metaphor lol

[@astrilianth]

Remember they said "we're not critics, we're just assholes."

[@kennedyhelmkamp2842]

Me when talking to my uncle i say something like I defiently know what im doing then five seconds later mess it up

[@ilikebach8562]

Sin

[@kirbydude2523]

10:35, Guys, I think I found Calyrex's forgotten third Water-type steed. Seastrier, maybe?

[@Daifa_]

13:15 fun fact:the snow from Olaf did actually be used to bring him back, you can see it coming from that pile near the end and if it was diffrent I don’t think he’d have his memories(I don’t really want to explain my thinking/reasoning farther)

[@lia5911]

The tail of the braid is hidden under the rest of her hair. I’ve done that exact hairstyle, I agree though. There really isn’t a way to make it look that seamless

[@hibahhussain2944]

She's a princess, I'm sure her hair dresses could clean it up to look amazing

[@niffniffhooray]

Also, hair pieces.

[@Nykroma]

Also its Disney so they can do whatever they want

[@ahstiasummers5583]

Don't forget, you're questioning Disney/cartoon logic

[@erinshetler3688]

Why horses are associated with water: according to Greek mythology, Posiden created horses, so like that’s pretty much it. Boom.

[@neflufv6392]

Erin Shetler true, and I’m sure you’ve seen this already, but the norse Nokks as well. That’s what they’re calling the toys too

[@motherofpea4rll]

Prison mike what was the scariest thing about prison?

[@82ndgrimreaperairbornedivi41]

Thank you I love cinima sins but I was about to go full on caps on this dude also sense he has done BOTH Percy Jackson movies you would think he would know this or at least do more research about this I mean seriously this is a simple fact you can find on Google...omgosh I am becoming cinima sins after watching so many...so I am gonna 1 more cinima sin for this to the last score lol

[@SunflowerSpotlight]

Nefluf V Or a kelpie.

[@GAMECHANGER-gr1re]

👏

[@keelanbrown7747]

Well technically sin 48 is wrong because there's a type of light called sonoluminesance which is caused by imploding bubbles in water imploding bubbles can be caused by exiting the water with sound or doing things like shooting it like when you shoot ballistics gel you can see a flash of light in slow-motion. The light be it is very dim and a ten thousanth of a second long flash but if enough of these bubbles imploded light emission could be possible. Edit: No one realy understands why this happens but its truly interesting. Edit 2: many of these implosion over time can even chip away at steel so if these reactions were happening enough to cause sustained light everything would probably be voilently exploding and it would be very loud.