Everything Wrong With Raya and the Last Dragon In 19 Minutes Or Less

[@quartzquality5213]

The "idea" of dragons running on water in the air instead of actually flying / levitating is actual Chinese mythology

[@Xenium57]

That may be why he took off a sin

[@lifeisgood6279]

@Eugene Oisten what do you mean. The dragons reference in the movies are based on chinese dragons. The dragons resemble the types of wingless long serpentine dragons from chinese myth and the thought that the death of a dragon causes the thing it represents to disappear is similar to how in taoist myths the deities are direct links or physical manifestations of the thung their linked to.(because dragons are also somethings considered to be divinity or are straight up just gods). Also that pose that petrified people get into is a stance commonly found in chinese statues mostly of mortals asking for forgiveness. So it has tons of chinese myths aspects incorperated into it

[@lifeisgood6279]

@Eugene Oisten true but the most widely known ones are from taoist and (technically) buddist religion both of which are known as 2 of the three largest religion of china for most of its existence. Yes i know buddhism orginated in india but the most well known stories were popularised from china not south east asia. How do i know this, cause i live in south east asia and the origin of most of my nations buddhist and taoist teachings come for china. I know hindism also has wingless dragons and japan has them as well but they are simply less well known so the assumption that the movie was indpired by taoist or buddhist beliefs is not wrong. Bruh

[@p0m3p0]

@Eugene Oisten Lol it's based off of Asian Mythology, they're literally Vietnamese

[@lifeisgood6279]

@Eugene Oisten also china has been know for 3 major religions buddhism,taoism and confucionism most of which have their own local myths,legends and beliefs. And the idea that dragons are linked to water and rivers are connected to taoisms 4 directional dragon kings which are the most well known wingless dragons i believe. Perhaps i should stop arguing if you lump all three very distinct religious practices as 'chinese religion'

[@ScruFaceJeanOfficial]

“He’s straight up drippin” was the highlight of this video

[@brogrammerplus7683]

I would say that the avatars reference was, but I see what ur talking about XD

[@Buzz-Killjoy]

Nah, it was the underwire/booby trap joke :D

[@jedijonathquan6776]

great video over all been waiting for this :D

[@itsismylife-jonbovi3305]

Dang Hai got the drip

[@JFrostMusic]

Didn't know scru watched cinema sins 🔥🔥💯

[@pher170]

Raya: "Each Island was named after a part of the body" That one small island in between Right leg and Left leg: *._.*

[@matthewdouglas8368]

Woah.. lets not make assumptions 😂

[@PanSpaceman]

Horn 2

[@toomuchtime4896]

But the dragon is made up of water, not islands. Wouldn't it rather be a "river arm"?

[@megonggaga8046]

An island full of kitty cat

[@aaronworthing1023]

Hey, maybe you got the genders wrong and there are two mountainous islands around the chest region… 😜

[@paulbennett2284]

(opening line) Raya - “I know what you’re thinking “ Me - “How are you staying upright on that ball?”

[@dustyrose192]

I would have apricated that as a sin rather than narration. We get it Jeremy, YOU dont like it, however its needed in some stories to explain what the hell is going on. You would have complained that you didn't understand the backstory if there wasn't narration

[@vincevvn]

@@dustyrose192 agree, I enjoy narration when it’s done right.

[@Thetravelingmonke]

Witch craft which is why why she ended up floating

[@Tsukasamimi]

I thought she was sitting on a saddle?

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

@Tsukasamimi She was on a saddle.

[@CrescentMoon898]

Sisu: "I've been asleep for 500 years" Cue: Robin Williams Genie

[@DavidRay_40]

Um, no. Genie was in the lamp for 10,000 years. 500 is only 5% of 10,000.

[@dogge4649]

@@DavidRay_40 hmm

[@chinwenduizenwata6763]

@@DavidRay_40 so she's 5% Robin Williams Genie?

[@BlxxdLxst17]

@@DavidRay_40 it’s a joke

[@baustin_guardian]

This is the first end credits scene where I got all the references

[@masterxl97]

I liked this movie, but I have a feeling it’s original pitch was WAAAAAAY more interesting before Disney got ahold of it and put their “Disney Animated Movie Checklist” fingerprints all over it.

[@LeviathanLP]

Right? Imagine if they'd addressed the obvious idea that the reason all other nations are so vicious is because Heart is hoarding all the remaining dragon magic for themselves rather than sharing it with the rest of the world. Imagine if it had been a short series instead of a movie.

[@peytonburnsed2196]

Seriously, why does Disney have to do that?

[@artemizz8708]

who "owned" Raya before Disney?

[@pebbleslikesthings]

raya had so much potential but disney didn’t explore it well. i honestly would’ve preferred to see raya travel with just sisu and boun and focus more on them and the other main characters. i wanna know more about namaari and her perspective

[@theinfiniteconqueror]

@@LeviathanLP Give this exact concept to Bryke and they'd do wonders with it. What completely ruined the movie for me is that in typical disney fashion you know that its gonna have a happy ending. So when they say that the dragon gem can bring everyone back to life you realize there are no stakes at all.

[@timdaferretmailman7297]

"Quick, everyone to the water!" Finally! I'm not the only one who was like, "But... There's no water..?" Lol

[@TheCumberCoIlective]

I watched this with my brother and SIL and we all immediately said that

[@timdaferretmailman7297]

@@TheCumberCoIlective lol

[@Wqtercolorsss]

I assumed there were other parts of water

[@sillysillygoose111]

@@Wqtercolorsss same

[@KT-rp9tx]

I literally said "there is no water, you morons"

[@-Secret]

I like the graphics, I liked the voice acting, I hated that stupid baby, and I liked the potential this movie had, HOWEVER the movie felt forced, and they spent so much time trying to give this movie a back story that they really didnt give us a chance to build an emotional bond with either of them. On top of that the message was very damaging and toxic, not at all something I'd want children to learn. Basically it was saying to trust people who mean you harm, forgive and forget people that never even bothered to apologize nor make things right towards you, that people who have done wrong deserve little to no consequences for their actions. In reality this is a horrible message. What I dislike most is the fact that they tried to paint Raya out to be the bad guy for RIGHTFULLY feeling the way that she did. The creators meant well, but their message does more harm then good. Most importantly, I REALLY hated that baby.

[@ryliefeinour9186]

I hate the baby as well! It is just so over exaggerated and it annoyed me the first time I watched the movie and still does! I’m glad someone else finally shares the same opinion.

[@-Secret]

@@ryliefeinour9186 EXACTLY!!!!

[@davidhayes7609]

I agree about the baby lol but I definitely don't think trusting people and forgiving is a bad message to be telling kids... I suppose you would disagree with the Bible for the same reason?

[@Scenario_animations]

@@davidhayes7609 But here is the problem. The movie took time to explain how raya trusted this random person just for her to ruin her ENTIRE COUNTRY. This makes the trust message seem outlandish.

[@tulips7465]

I REALLY F*CKING HATED THE BABY AS WELL!

[@themoldysausage]

Wait, no sins for the fart bugs? Jeremy, you're slacking.

[@genevieveowusu885]

Yeah, those were stupid.

[@kirbythepup5926]

Yeah they should be "ripped" right out of the story 😁

[@untilted5216]

@@kirbythepup5926 loooolll

[@dua_junaid]

I can't believe he didn't make a counter for the amount of times they said "trust" in this movie.

[@FFelxi]

420th like

[@sr7046]

The theme of this movie is “trust people no matter how much they hurt you”. That should be a sin.

[@Kim4ever1234]

yea, i feel like it oversimplified the concept, esp for children

[@ZETH_27]

The theme is humans are dicks, dragons are awesome and since it's a kids-movie it somehow works out in the end despite mountains worth of contradicting evidence.

[@neonbunnies9596]

Thought it was globalization, because Disney needs to make international dollars

[@Tempusmon]

@@Kim4ever1234 It feels like at some earlier stage the whole trust thing was going to go both ways as every time Raya warned Sisu to stay put or be careful because she was familiar with the people and they were untrustworthy Sisu didn't trust her assessment and ended up either almost dying, getting both of them trapped, or dying.

[@FengTheSlayer]

Technically it’s more deeper than that but the movie’s pacing does feel like it was moving too fast to flesh out the characters more

[@greglewis102]

This movie literally feels like a video game story. With mini boss fights, and each location being a level. (And constantly checking the map)

[@themilkman3568]

Speaking of video games at the start she has kali sticks from modern warfare 2019

[@evanschneidau4818]

@@themilkman3568 I noticed that too

[@emilymckelvey2530]

I literally was thinking this while watching the movie! I thought the world the story was too big for the runtime of the movie, and could probably be much better expressed in a video game where the world could be properly explored. A video game setting could also make more sense of the ending. Rather than just the world learning to stop hating each other rather randomly, the process could be a little more naturally pushed along in the form of various side quests and such where the main characters learn more about the other people in the world and that they aren’t as bad as they seem. Woulda totally been a cool videogame

[@aalllllllexx]

@@emilymckelvey2530 and if it makes you choose in the end to trust or not trust, leaving room for you to fuck up and destroy everything

[@TheCumberCoIlective]

Princess Raya Vs the World?

[@SoaringJaybird]

I feel like this movie could have been vastly improved if 1) Raya and Nemari had known each other for longer than a day, making the "betrayal" more impactful and, ya know, a betrayal; 2) They omitted the whole flashback to when they were kids entirely. I think it would have been much more interesting if the first time we learn about the betrayal (and her losing her father) is when Raya is doing the ritual and says "I trusted someone I shouldn't have," and we only learn more about it as the story progresses, instead of literally being handed it. It would also make the confrontation scene in the cave a lot more dramatic and tense since we wouldn't know who Nemari is at that point or her past relationship to Raya. And before anyone complains, yes, I know this is a kids movie, but that doesn't mean there can't be improvements or critiques.

[@dbseamz]

Oh, I thought the scene when young Raya and young Namaari were playing that Would You Rather game wasn’t the same day they had first met. Sure, they were wearing the same things but Namaari’s mom wears the same dress all the time so that doesn’t prove anything. They seemed a lot more familiar with each other than having met only hours ago would suggest.

[@wisteria3032]

I agree. Somehow in the last few years the message has passed that things intended for children must be dumbed down. Children are extremely intelligent - there are lots of things they don't know of course and some of them seem absurd to adults but they aren't stupid: quite the opposite they are curious and even if you don't give them all the answers they will find their own. If you make a good movie then it may be too difficult for little children. That's ok - they will still manage to follow the story and it will be loved by older people. At most they will get bored. If you make a stupid movie (and this movie make the viewer feel stupid) no one will like it and the little children will get bored anyway.

[@prodnoamiri]

they should hire u

[@dobbysboggart6883]

Scholoryteller has a great video revising Raya.

[@SteampunkHorse]

no I'm completely with you. I wish Disney had hired you for this movie

[@kenzosarad368]

I love how plot just conveniently has Namaari’s arrow have the ability to not only kill a dragon, but has enough power to push Sisu off the cliff and into the water

[@kerokrystal]

Raya was shown to easily tackle Sisu to the ground quite some distance away and pull her out of danger I think more than once? which suggests that Sisu probably isn’t all that heavy, despite her size lol

[@hughmorris7557]

Well, Smaug was killed by an ordinary arrow, too.

[@curlyfries9234]

@@hughmorris7557 he was killed by a black arrow in the movies and in both book and movie it took an incredibly skilled archer to make a once in a lifetime shot in an unprotected scale that was incredibly small

[@adde9506]

The movie has a NINJA BABY and what bothers you is the overpowered ammunition cliché? Also, Raya knocked off her aim, but the arrow was still a kill shot, which means Namaari fired BEFORE Raya's sword hit her.

[@ryankunst668]

@@curlyfries9234 I mean, technically he was killed by a black arrow in the book to, but it was just a normal arrow that was black and it was like Bard's lucky arrow or something.

[@kadelin3318]

I'm surprised you didn't sin Sisu's annoying "trust strangers that are trying to trick you, steal from you and ruin the world" messages.

[@diegopansini3152]

I’m sure the message has the right idea, but man did they deliver it terribly 😂

[@mrcritical6751]

Yeah this movie is painting itself as a “you need to learn to let the past go and trust again” story when it should be a “sometimes you just can’t trust people and you need to stop being so damn naive” story

[@waitselljones8068]

The point is that people don't trust each other because they're assuming you're going to screw them over, but if you show them a little bit of trust they may put faith in you. Which is exactly what happened. Sisu is a bit naive but she is ultimately right. Otherwise they would not have been able to gather people from each nation.

[@kadelin3318]

@@waitselljones8068 Yeah I'm going to assume the girl that tricked me into giving her what ruined the world and is now holding a crossbow to the face of my savior dragon friend after I tried trusting her again is going to screw me over. It's the logical assumption and everytime Sisu ignored it she got screwed over. It's like going to a terrorist base and saying "I trust you won't shoot me"

[@mrcritical6751]

Plus some of the people Raya is being asked to trust are just evil people. The sadistic old woman who was sending people out to the woods to die and was about to murder Sisu being a prime example

[@Cartoonandanimelove1]

I honestly think this movie had SO much potential. The animation was insane, the actors were well chosen. The issue is the plot was much too ambitious to fit properly into such a short movie. They rushed through way too many important details. Oh and the weird quirky modern-day relatable jokes were way cringe...

[@SashaRomeroMusic]

@@No-ue5pi I mean Disney animations have always done that, it's just that when you're a kid, that's just how people talk. It's only adults who grow up learning modern lingo, rather than being born into it, who feel like it's an out of place thing. Like, what do you think Robin William's Genie was?

[@aidenwalk1118]

This should have been a show

[@theyellowmeaning]

@@SashaRomeroMusic but come on, a group project and credit? that has literally 0 context even compared to a robin williams impression of a cultural stereotype.

[@SashaRomeroMusic]

@@theyellowmeaning the Genie sings The Stars and Stripes Forever by John Philip Sousa, an American Patriotic March. You tell me how that makes any more sense.

[@dariustellama3303]

@@SashaRomeroMusic because the Genie is all powerful versus some random kids saying modern day lingo. It seems a lot more believable in the Genie’s case for that reason although both movies seemingly take place in the past.

[@sdg6801]

"Someone's stolen Fang's dragon scroll" *Angry Kung-Fu Panda noises*

[@jocelynecupcake]

Kung fu panda movies are better

[@Playfast12]

This made me spit out apple juice all over my dog 🤣🤣🤣

[@Thetravelingmonke]

@@Playfast12 noo the poor dog

[@SteampunkHorse]

“You were never meant to be the Dragon Warrior, that was not my fault!” “NOT YOUR _FAULT?”_

[@jsarine]

Best “I don’t need THIS anymore” sin ever. 😂

[@BluTru]

Why does it say 11hrs ago

[@povotaknight2063]

Patreon.

[@NapalmWasTaken]

@@BluTru yea the he||

[@oofedultra]

@@BluTru patreon

[@walterkipferl6729]

I wanted to say that… lol

[@DragonGoddess18]

I can't believe CinemaSins didn't sin the rather unhealthy message this movie attempted to deliver:trust everyone all the time,no matter what. Namaari never apologized about the coup she started when they were kids, stooped to victim-blaming Raya for killing Sisu when it was Namaari herself that brought a crossbow to their negotiation and aimed it at them in the first place.Her mother may have influenced her but in the end, the person who decides how Namaari acts is Namaari herself. She never apologized on-screen and that was a missed opportunity. Sisu's story about how her siblings trusted her with the gem is no way parallel to what Raya went through: Sisu was NOT harmed by what her siblings did, Raya was hurt by Namaari did and once again, Namaari didn't act like the adult she thought she was and apologize to Raya.

[@Tempusmon]

My favorite part of the trust everyone no matter what message is that the character pushing it the hardest got burned for blindly trusting people three times.

[@yamatoedge2425]

@@Tempusmon I really hate their moral of story. Literally what are they thinking?

[@Tempusmon]

@@yamatoedge2425 My best guess is that at some earlier stage they were also going to make a point about being too trusting and have the leads find a balance together. This would explain why despite the message seemingly being trust at all costs they actually punish Sisu for blindly trusting people.

[@Anon-qp3kt]

Feminazis dude.

[@dorukhanozen2580]

Thank you. Such a missed oppurtunity on teaching kids not to trust everyone while also the importance of apology is gone now.

[@calmgoodfire4662]

I’m still wondering why they didn’t have like 30 guards all willing to commit Mass murder to protect the stone instead of 2 people who would be , so so to want to kill a single person

[@SkylerDemness]

My question exactly.

[@JoeMama-tw6gu]

there was a whole security system to protect the stone but if i remember correctly, raya turned it off to let that girl in, and that’s how everyone got to the gem.

[@calmgoodfire4662]

@@JoeMama-tw6guyea this wouldn’t be problem if there was more guards who be like Yea no raya get tf out

[@ballsofplastic]

@@calmgoodfire4662 Nobody was trusted and nobody would be a real guard.

[@calmgoodfire4662]

@@ballsofplastic yea have them outside and the most loyal at least in front of the traps Like dam raya was a guard and on her first day and the first person she met Disabled traps and let in a random ass girl Like really I’m sure there’s some people in your country that’s loyal enough to do some killing or for the very least be willing to die for the stone

[@dchuricci]

The fact that Raya trusted someone despite knowing them for probably only 20 minutes and then CONTINUED to trust her even after she is revealed to be in possession of something she shouldn't be in possession of deserves a sin, maybe even ten of them.

[@dbseamz]

If she had been presented as naively optimistic beforehand, maybe not-but up until right before the other nations arrived she was all about how to fight them off because she just assumed they were coming to attack. I guess maybe she thought “if this girl disobeyed her fellow delegates to get that thing, maybe she’s more likely to be on my side than on their side”?

[@collinxxgrimreap1261]

No sin for the father acting like his daughter isn’t all a sudden two times the size and age from when they were last together

[@JoeMama-yf8dd]

well he would know that would happen since he knew he was going to be turned to stone and he knows that times still goes on

[@JoeMama-yf8dd]

@@dragonkitty5578 no because raya's father and the rest of the people had heard of the stories or even knew the people who were turned to stone then revived. sisu hadn't heard of all that because she didn't get to see the other dragons get revived. yeah he wouldn't know how much time passed by seeing a girl that looked like raya, and coming to him could only be raya. initially he could be a little shocked but he would definitely recognize her and realize how much time passed.

[@riveroverland5902]

@@dragonkitty5578 Raya called him Pa aka dad, she was the only one standing from the direction of the voice. Also any shock he would have would be overpowered by relief and joy.

[@p0m3p0]

He was turned to stone for like 10 years, that's why he didn't age-

[@ms_scribbles]

@@dragonkitty5578 If you hadn't noticed, Sisu's a little, uh...touched in the head. Of course she thought no time had passed.

[@TG-bl9kr]

So me and my dad watched this film and at the end he was like "How is that Fang mother not locked up or something??" I mean, she was ready to backstab the world lol

[@loturzelrestaurant]

2:32: Wow, what a dumb Remark of Cinema Sins. Wow. Just Wow.

[@kaynu_Z]

Your right man i stil hate her

[@maubrey2095]

Why didn't she represent Fang for a public apology to all the other nations, especially Heart?

[@Kristina-ov8ur]

Riiii like she basically said forget everyone else😭✋

[@stargirlexe]

Same thing but with namari like she would be crucified for almost killing sisu and almost ending the entire world's amount of water

[@hunam_1]

I’ll say this about Raya and the Last Dragon: at least it wasn’t live action Mulan.

[@FrancistheBrave]

I've never seen mulan live-action movie till this day. And I have no intention of seeing to. I love mulan 1&2 animated movies ❤❤❤

[@jonusaguilar8156]

Too bad that’s not a very high milestone

[@remixchild]

That doesn’t help much

[@Saavryn]

Neither was Live Action Mulan

[@dudemarina]

@@FrancistheBrave I was going to like your comment until you said you liked Mulan 2 😅

[@issyjoy]

I'd also like to point out that it somehow took Raya 6 YEARS to get to the end of each river section (apparently there were hundreds of river endings but that map had no more than 30 at most) yet somehow she can hop around the whole world in about a day or less when trying to find the gems. Not to mention the way Namari can be ahead if Raya when she just riding her cats while Raya has a motorized dragon boat and a speedy ball of cuteness.

[@ariesarchdemon]

In the movie’s defense, we have to assume that Raya’s mode of transportation the past 6 years has been her obligatory Disney animal companion, as opposed to the boat her and the gang sail on for the rest of the movie. But then that begs the question: why didn’t she just get a boat in the first place?

[@angie4662]

Not to mention Namaari went from Tail back to Fang then to Spine then BACK to Fang at the same time as Raya had been going all those other places.

[@magolor152]

More importantly why did she need to find a dragon to tell her that collecting the orb fragments the best course of action? She could have collected the orb fragments and less than a year on her way to find the dragon buy she spent a whole six years just to find the dragon and then found the gems, she could've saved alot of time taking back the orb fragments as she looked for the dragon

[@sarkasticchik9133]

The thing that kinda of pissed off was that Fang was like “who do you think they are going to blame, if everything goes back to normal?” As if they didn’t do anything wrong, of course they SHOULD have been held accountable, they started the fight!

[@chaoxiangalula4086]

I mean yeah, they started it, but everyone took part in the greed. They should not take the sole blame....idk that’s just my opinion

[@sarkasticchik9133]

@@chaoxiangalula4086 I get your point, but it just rubbed me the wrong way because it felt like they weren’t willing to recognize their wrong action.

[@PanSpaceman]

It want so much a lack of accountability as it was "if we fix everything, we're gonna be turbo-fucked for breaking it in the first place" which is a *decent* point and all but the alternative is you have a world full of insta-"kill" rock fog that's only repelled by water and dragon magic. Some lumps you gotta take.

[@chaoxiangalula4086]

@@sarkasticchik9133 ohhhhh yeah that makes sense

[@Anon-qp3kt]

They're a land primarily led by feminists. As if feminists are ever held accountable

[@jackrobertson6808]

To paraphrase Cinemasins a little: “ This the most visually interesting boring movie I’ve seen in a while.”

[@uninterupted]

Dune?

[@coldpuck]

Too many modern movies in a nutshell.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@coldpuck ✅💯💯💯

[@Retro_Treasures]

I thought for sure CinemaSins would point out the fact that they evacuated out into the empty canal, which filled back up almost instantly once the magic came back. All those people DIED!!!

[@thatgirl298]

Lmfaoooo

[@dbseamz]

Is that where they went? I didn’t see them down there.

[@dbseamz]

@Laura W I honestly can't remember what I said and YT isn't showing it to me for some reason. Sorry

[@CameronMetrejean]

Really surprised you didn’t sin Namari’s “ you’re just as much to blame for Sisu‘s death as I am”

[@moonydasaltychild9993]

ah yes the typical "i'm the super optimistic legendary character" and the "i'm the super pessimistic main character" there's also the typical clans in animated fantasy being the clan the main character is from/the clan that can do no wrong, the bad guy clan, the big city/shopping district clan, the clan that always fights, and the minor/forgetful clan. this movie had so much cliches to me

[@victoriamilk2865]

This was movie's script was just a whole cliche list with a 6 year made story in their

[@MHJ_404]

It’s like Wakanda and the protector of the gem is the black panther

[@MHJ_404]

But Wakanda is way cooler

[@LshowKnows]

So true, the movie seems like a rip off of multiple movies into one

[@BlackRosePetalzFall]

What’s a single example of all these “cliches” you listed?

[@bored_potato]

I feel like this movie also incorporated (too much) "modern slang" in a movie that was supposed to be in a somewhat ancient fantasy set and kinda... felt annoying at some points. Or is it just me?

[@Jerepasaurus]

It was extremely immersion breaking, yeah. Jarring, really.

[@PulseAnimations878]

not just you i really didnt like it it sorta pulled me out of the world

[@TenyoChiisai]

Agreed, I didn't like it. It's a pretty common trope for the comic relief character (the genie in Aladin, Mushu, etc) but in this movie EVERYONE had to have at least a couple of oddly modern yet outdated quibs

[@mcdonaldtrump228]

Ya not alone

[@laraschroeder5195]

That how I felt with the whole “dragon nerd” thing

[@MockFilmReviews]

You missed one glaring plot hole. Wasn’t one of the dragon powers the ability to run on rain? Why not use the ability to make water to defeat the Druune who don’t like water? Ug, this movie!

[@leeviheiskanen1271]

That is what I said when I was watching this movie

[@necrorifter3059]

All I see is water repel Druun, not defeat them and since they turn stuff to stone and ash. I can only assume that they burn out water and eventually reach Dragon, not to mention that by time Dragon get involved, they already defeat Humanity and have massive numbers that even what 30 to 50 dragons base on ending cant defeat what could be 1,000 or so depend on human population pre50o years.

[@vincevvn]

Another plot hole is that they all had different powers but at the end they basically all had the same powers, like wtf

[@kobypourciaux1066]

Honestly, my biggest problem with this movie, and one of the reasons I feel like its message about trust doesn’t work, is because Raya and Namaari’s relationship is handled really badly and confusingly. The movie acts like they used to be good friends and that they really knew each other, but they didn’t. The only reason Namaari was being nice to Raya to begin with was because she was tricking her into letting her see the gem so she could take it. She literally meets Raya and betrays her in the same scene. I feel like if they did something similar to Moses and Ramses’s relationship from the Prince of Egypt where they grew up together as childhood friends, but due to the ongoing feud with their clans and their parents’ obsession with getting the gem, they slowly drifted apart and became enemies, then that would be a much more compelling and heartbreaking story, and it would at least give Raya a slightly better reason for being willing to trust her at all again. And I don’t normally say this, but honestly, I think Frozen did a better job with its theme about trust. While I would argue it’s not explicit or the main point of the story, I feel like there is an underlying theme when it comes to Anna and Elsa and how they trust/don’t trust people. Anna is extroverted, energetic, and willing to let anyone into her life, while Elsa is introverted, isolated, and unwilling to let anyone into her life out of fear of accidentally hurting them. The movie shows through Elsa’s isolation and through Hans being the twist villain that being too trustful or too untrustful can be dangerous. That is a way more interesting way to teach a message about trust to kids in my opinion. Anyway, let me know if u agree.

[@kabo0m]

63 people so far agree with you for a reason! You are 100% correct in your observations! I felt that Frozen had a better story, presentation for that story, better focus, and it all made sense. I mean why would Raya trust Namaari again... After such a betrayal? Raya just met Namaari and ooh they both liked dragons (uh .. wouldn't everyone if the WHOLE WORLD had such respect and honor for dragons who they looked at like gods) and let her see something she was supposed to protect with her life and had trained years to even get the privilege of getting to even see herself? Actually .. that should have been yet another Sin. Raya trains for years to even SEE it yet shows Namaari on the first day they met.

[@apollothefirst]

As a joke, me and my brothers call it “Raya and the Overpriced Premier Access” Edit: I FORGOT I MADE THIS COMMENT! Thanks for the likes, like a ton, it may seem tiny, but I have never had a comment this popular!

[@Faux_Sunlight]

The only acceptable title

[@ryankunst668]

Yeah, I figured they learned their lesson when nobody paid to watch this movie, but then they did it again with Black Widow.

[@callhimtim3188]

lol

[@SuperstarYT]

Right?! What ere they thinking with that price?! You could literally go to a movie theater for cheaper

[@calebproductions1264]

Because this movie reminds me a little bit of Avatar the Last Airbender, I’m gonna call this either Avatar and the Last Dragon or Raya the Last Airbender.

[@altair5072]

also, "revered magical being of untold power is actually a bumbling idiot" cliche

[@hughmorris7557]

Am I the only guy who actually likes that cliche? I'm honestly tired of the 'brilliant, emotionless, revered magical being of untold power' thing. the 'bumbling idiot' thing reminds me of God from Monty Python and The Holy Grail. "Oh, don't grovel! One thing I can't stand, it's people groveling!"

[@cheeserock1772]

@@hughmorris7557 nah, I like this cliche.

[@lifeisgood6279]

@@hughmorris7557 nope it was designed so you would like it. After all there is literally nothing scarier than the thought of a all powerful being who is emotionless and logic based because this mean they probably will not care for most human life. And this terrifies humanity so the common trope is to picture beings who wield such powers either as overly benevolent( as see in all religions mostly) or bumbling lovable idiots ( as since in most media). Because it is natural to fear emotionless inhuman beings so its only natural you as a human and as a mortal would like the idea of a flawed or more humane wielder of extreme power. Even though most beings of extreme power are likely not idiots because of well literally all we know about what responisblities such power holds. Of course, clinging and liking such a trope is your minds effort of hope that if such beings actually exist they wouldnt be too cold or emotionless towards humanity. So no you would not be the only one but the more pessimisstic humans would believe in a more emotionless depiction because negativity. So nope you arent special or strange, its only natural you do

[@pathetic2399]

@@hughmorris7557 It wasn’t about whether you like the cliche or not. Also you’re never the only one to anything. There’s always going to be someone that feels the same way as you.

[@justsomewoomywithamustache4481]

I actually like this cliche

[@cadensitts8401]

One thing that made me mad was that the dragons didn’t come back for whatever reason the first time, but then they MAGICALLY COME BACK THE NEXT TIME. There was no difference in the blasts.

[@amentlik]

so, I didn't like this movie or its message, but I think that the point there was that the dragons were already good, but humans are bad, so with humans still in the world, acting badly towards each other, there wasn't enough power in that first blast to undo all the damage, but when humans finally started working together (because the bad cloud thingies came about specifically because of human discord) it was finally enough to undo all the damage... I assume...

[@jesstotten5571]

@@amentlik I think you have it right. Also, humans didn't just cooperate, they willingly gave up the stones and sacrificed themselves to the druun in the hope of restoring the gem. That sacrifice may have given the extra "oomf" that allowed the dragons to come back. Not well explained by the movie though.

[@starcycle4308]

I think it was because the gem brought out the greed in people and everyone was separated, but then when people put trust in each other, restoring the harmony that was broken, then and only then could the dragons come back.

[@tobybartels8426]

Dragons are superior beings. Dragons trusting each other: almost meaningless, just strong enough to bring back puny humans. Humans trusting each other: fucking amazing, strong enough to bring back even dragons!

[@ckarie3710]

@@amentlik but then there’s the issue that it was only that group the rest of them were acting business as usual so it still shouldn’t have worked

[@Sanngot]

Raya's biggest flaw is that it tried to cram so much into one movie. There was no time to get attached to any characters, or for them to develop a convincing bond. Imagine if this had been mini series instead. Even if the graphics took a hit, the writers would have had more time to work with to tell a compelling story.

[@laraschroeder5195]

This pacing was all over the place. 2 minutes bringing the dragon back to life and 10 minutes of the dragon giving a speech about trust that didn’t really do anything.

[@carolinamurtha3102]

I’ve realized that whenever a movie starts with “I know what your thinking …” I immediately check out. It’s like 1) don’t tell me what I think, that’s kind of pretentious and 2) a lot of times it’s not at all what I was thinking.

[@denee557]

Exactly!

[@shawnnoyes2776]

Yeah, because what I was thinking was "Holy Crap that broken fountain is photo-realistic." and then Raya zipped by and started talking...

[@Ironicuss]

I’ve never connected so well with a single comment in my life

[@paytonmoore6778]

“I know what you’re thinking” is what you hear at the beginning of some elementary school kid’s creative writing essay

[@themimsy]

“I don’t even know what I’M thinking half the time so you sure as hell don’t know either.”

[@gaiashadow1599]

For a movie called “Raya and the last dragon” I would’ve expected more Raya and the last dragon instead of “Raya and the broken world and oh yeah there is a dragon too”

[@noelle9467]

Right tho haha

[@Mobin92]

And then the dragon was some cringe mutated my little pony thing...

[@KingYugiMotto99]

@@Mobin92 dragons in East Asia are depicted like that. The artists and creators did their research and animated accordingly. Go Google dragons drawing from any south east Asian country

[@pyrotheevilplatypus]

@@Mobin92 Super ANNOYING cringe

[@pyrotheevilplatypus]

@@KingYugiMotto99 I think they're referring to the bubblegum pastel colors and the soft, rounded angles.

[@mrspiffy8587]

My biggest problem with this movie was the pacing. The plot flies by at breakneck speeds and never gets time to breathe. It feels like their collecting the dragon shards way too quickly and with little difficulty. Cars had the same run time as this movie but feels much longer since the pacing is much slower.

[@weaverofbrokenthreads]

This movie somehow managed to overexplain everything and still leave me confused

[@danielakanji7305]

And why didn’t the dragons come back the first time but came back the second time

[@cintronproductions9430]

@@danielakanji7305 Because plot!

[@frostfang1]

its like they could have taken those moments to overexplain a part they didnt touch on, but instead chose to reiterate things that were already fairly obvious and mentioned before.

[@nottechytutorials]

Another thing that was confusing was why does everyone have that one specific pose when they turn into stone, but Raya's friends just stay as they were?

[@Misha_Katsuki]

@@nottechytutorials because movie is dumb.

[@encryptedsnipes6749]

I watched this movie with some of my friends and when Namaari's mom said look around my friend said, "Everything the light touches is our kingdom."

[@ashaler__]

lol

[@bsweeting1481]

Wait what was this a reference too? I think I might know but I'm not sure lol-

[@encryptedsnipes6749]

@@bsweeting1481 Lion king

[@bsweeting1481]

@@encryptedsnipes6749 Ok thank you

[@lizzykatieschindele6265]

When is that? (time stamp please)

[@bulldozer8950]

The thing that pisses me off about this movie is the rivers. They could flow into the dragon shaped lake. But instead like 20+ lakes all flow OUT. Why are they flowing out? Where are they going? Where does the water for the lake come from? WATER DOESNT FLOW OUT FROM A LAKE IN MULTIPLE PLACES. All that had to happen is the water flows into the lake from these rivers. This one thing just pisses me off. Have they never seen how rivers and lakes work? Anyway. Please make reasonable water features in your magic dragon Disney movies.

[@adde9506]

I was expecting a "Disney doesn't know how rivers work" sin when I got here. But, geographically speaking, multiple rivers *could* conceivably flow out of a lake, BUT these rivers flow to nowhere. And I suppose the reversal of the water could mean that the rivers were flowing backwards before Sisu was revived, but then, if all springs lead to the lake, regardless of geography, where is the rest of the planet?

[@ryankunst668]

Yeah this always irritates me to no end in worldbuilding. My dad and I have spent literal hours discussing the map in Red Dead Redemption 2 and how it makes no sense.

[@Gabriel071293]

I hadn't thought about that until you pointed it out, now I can't be not mad 😡😡😡

[@raylanevermore5238]

When you gave a sin for Namaari's mom being turned to stone when she's always carrying the scepter with the stone on top, you forgot that Namarri swiped the gem stone during the night and met with Raya. So that sin shouldn't count.

[@lazarus8447]

I thought for a magic rock everyone wanted… She got the pieces back pretty damn easy.

[@Tempusmon]

The lack of resistance or desire for anyone else to get them is crazy. Take the first piece she found for example, it was just sitting there in an Indiana jones trap cave for less than 6 years so people definitely knew the rock that protects them from the druun was there but there is no evidence that anyone else ever tried to get it.

[@PanSpaceman]

Yeah only the main characters seemed to care at all about the rocks, and depending on how that's set up I could forgive that much (though as it is, it's still sinful) but for the macguffins to be so unimpressive for most people it just makes it all the more sinful to not have raya, in full dragon form, say hey give me the stones (sorry, "trust me with the stones") so I can use my dragon magic to fix stuff.

[@dbseamz]

@@Tempusmon the evidence was the statues Raya saw along the way. She had a stone piece with her, they didn’t. I’m pretty sure the idea was that everyone who tried to get them, as well as everyone who would have guarded them, got druuned in the process.

[@chrischaboyer611]

This was the most gorgeous looking thoroughly average movie of the year. Didn't hate it, Didn't love it. It just made me feel nothing

[@michaelmedlin3091]

perfect description of my feelings towards this movie lol

[@caramelizedoni0n]

what a description

[@Anchor_Productions]

Well I thought the soundtrack was awesome and the animation was amazing

[@christianparrish6647]

@@caramelizedoni0n look it up

[@skuffy4930]

Your opinion pretty much describes reviews of Shrek The Third.

[@mmeers89]

Okay so just because Frozen was successful doesn't mean every single god damn film has to have a character or characters stylized similar to Elsa and Ana.

[@ecofinisher]

Yeah or that everyone will like that idea.

[@TheCumberCoIlective]

I do like that Frozen helped break the forced love stories trend though. Keep letting protagonists be amazing protagonists without having to fall in love. Please and thank you

[@ecofinisher]

@@TheCumberCoIlective Yeah I liked that except they kind of rushed in my opinion to fast with KristoffzxAnna in the end. Sure they didn't right off get married or together but it left me a little dumbfounded.

[@TheCumberCoIlective]

@@ecofinisher true. But I also feel like the movie lasted over several days at least and we just don't see that. They did travel to a mountain and back again together so there was more bonding time than a song about sandwiches xD

[@Kairos_Akuma]

The main Char looks kinda like Korra tho..

[@Lemana28021989]

The "she shoots Sisu by the seashore" bit was hilarious! :D Well done!

[@jasonlam8588]

Logic of this movie: 4 dragons turn themselves into a gem that protects people, but somehow if you break it and put it back together it will revive those 4 dragons as well as every other dragon who died... Imagine at the beginning of the movie when the gem gets broken, if people put the pieces back together, out of nowhere all the dragons get revived for no reason...

[@alexhosten1508]

Isn't it also a thing that they Finally Trust each other?

[@themichaelconnor42]

Come quickly, my lord! A dragon's been sighted near the western watchtower!

[@jasonlam8588]

@@alexhosten1508 yes that's very much so the message to trust people, but in some ways it doesn't work because it's saying people need to not trust each others first... Just think if all tribes were united in the beginning the gem wouldn't have been broken, and the dragons wouldn't have been revived...

[@berengustav7714]

"Augghhh! You have a peice!?" "If I told you I didn't lose the puppy,but went,'look I have a peice' how would you feel?!?!"

[@UnboxingAlyss]

@@berengustav7714 Surprised he didn't bring up this line. Easily the funniest line in the movie.

[@GoingHamAllTheWay]

Only thing that i actually didn’t like was the ending, if the dragons stayed died it would have pushed the topic of we have to work/stay together

[@Monochrome2004]

it didnt really bother me much but i see what you're saying. you can argue that everyone just came back to live as one nation cuz the dragons are back/the crystal thingy is gone, not because they actually learned anything

[@priscillajimenez27]

Right! These movies always seem to focus on a chosen one or relic that is needed to solve everything instead of the people actually doing something

[@GoingHamAllTheWay]

All I’m saying that if Disney didnt come at the writers saying we want a typical happy ending, and they went with the original ending they planned I feel like it would be a great movie with a very real point that the next generation will need to understand. We are all humans and we need to treat this planet with love, that’s all, but I understand gotta make it for kids(just I think there smarter then most believe)

[@huh968]

that was actually the original ending, but osnat shurer was like nah the dragons gotta be alive

[@CthulhuTheory]

​@Robert Giese What exactly do you think the entire premise of the movie was, if not the consequences of not trusting people and coming together? I mean honestly, the consequences are already there and the entire movie is about resolving that consequence by undoing the lack of trust, which was the only way the darkness was defeated. And it was only when people trusted each other again that the dragons were able to return. So, yeah, I really don't understand your point. They lived and witnessed the consequences, and now have a story to pass down to generations warning them of what could happen if they fall back to the greedy, mistrustful, and backstabby ways.

[@hughmorris7557]

*Raya's dad is preparing stew* Hey, what's up, guys, welcome back to Binging with Ba-bish.

[@dustyrose192]

ok that was funny

[@commander8625]

3:27 The real question is why this test is the final test necessary, especially when that test forces the test taker to use offensive techniques, when a guardian would need to primarily use defensive techniques.

[@marshalldye4272]

This movie plot is kind of similar to the last air bender. One nation attacks and causes a war. Raya has to go find a a dragon that’s suppose to save the world. Then has to travel to the different nation so the dragon can learn different magic while gain information allies from each one. The bad guy later joins the group too.

[@vixenrevitup]

I have not seen this movie yet, but my first impression was that it took a lot of plot points from The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance. There is a shattered crystal that causes destruction and needs to be restored, there’s a purple “Darkening” (I forget what they call it in Raya, but that’s what it’s called in AoR), there’s a need to build trust between the clans (humans in Raya and Gelflings in AoR), and there’s even a rolling creature used for transportation (used by Raya the protagonist and the Armaligs used by the antagonistic Skeksis in AoR). As a massive A:TLA fan, I definitely see your point too. The references are everywhere! My twin loves Raya but never really cared for A:TLA and never watched AoR. I’d probably be the person that hates Raya (when I eventually watch it) but loves both A:TLA and AoR. And why doesn’t anyone point out how much Sisu looks like an adult female version of Azymondias from The Dragon Prince??? Another brilliant show, by the way! Raya just seems to borrow too much to warrant itself as a great standalone film. Maybe I’m wrong and I’ll end up liking it, but I can’t unsee all the references and I know they’ll haunt me when I finally watch it for myself…

[@sws212]

@A Zee It's more a Hollywood thing to do, Disney is just the worst at it since all of their movies go for generic mass appeal. The story is a generic af plot done to death. Someone who lost someone or something fighting against the big bad whatever through the use of a magic mcguffin isn't exactly groundbreaking story telling.

[@dinosaur5864]

@@sws212 IKR

[@physicslover4951]

@@vixenrevitup Sadly enough, Raya got an ending but the dark crystal didn't :'(

[@lydiabogan]

@@physicslover4951 Yes, its so sad on how the crystal had no choice for it to be born, and then when it came back to life no one gave a fuck about the crystal

[@nathanbrunner9811]

I realize that this is nitpicky, but this is a CinemaSins comment section. The projectile in question at 14:18 is in fact a shrimp tail. As it comprises the back half of the animal and provides propulsion, it fulfills the requirements for a tail and lacks the head that would mark it as a whole shrimp.

[@isky6541]

I commend you being at least self-aware :))

[@oaktadopbok665]

100% accurate

[@stormgate3079]

I mean, it's CinemaSins. If they didn't want people to be nitpicky, they shouldn't have trained us so well.

[@nathanbrunner9811]

@@stormgate3079 Very true. Dr. Frankenstein has created a monster. And it tears apart movies!

[@aaronbrunner9896]

Good

[@illCMAC]

Definitely 10 dragon sized Raya's imo. This is the content I come to YT for, thank you.

[@AgentWuT]

How are you 13 hours early

[@povotaknight2063]

Patreon?

[@FateisDoc5309]

@@AgentWuT its called bots

[@povotaknight2063]

@@FateisDoc5309 not really?

[@AgentWuT]

@@FateisDoc5309 @Povota Knight is right tho Bots usually do scam things and this is a normal comment

[@arcanetech2244]

Movie: Raya and the Last Dragon KZbin: Ah, yes, Moana

[@andersonnation9915]

''Moana did it better'' Most true sentence ever.

[@yeetmaster9374]

See the line where the sky meets the sea- this is cringey

[@andylin9441]

True

[@psychoticcoconut4047]

... Yeah kinda✋😔

[@jiji7250]

Timestamp ?

[@Takaichi666-]

....yeah

[@demonkingisme5935]

I'm surprised you didn't sin the fact Raya acted like she knew Namari for ages when she betrayed her, when in truth it was like 6 hours. She goes on to say she knows how to push Namari's buttons as if she found out all of Namari's secrets and pet peeves in those 6 hours when she was like 12.

[@betajediwizard5680]

Raya; should have been a tv series instead of a movie. That's all I'll say.

[@Dudeman23rd]

I had the exact same thought after finishing it; it feels like it was pitched as a Disney+ original series, but the execs said "nah, movie that shit"

[@Amanda-ug6gp]

And it could've been so GOOD. I was so excited for this premise, and can only imagine what it could've been if given more time.

[@tadbitsketch]

Yeah, I would've loved more time for character development.

[@eldritchcatgirl]

Especially because of all the flashbacks and specific dialogue to explain the world. If it was a series, they could have had longer to explain it and actually give each land more depth in their culture. Not to mention the characters are forgettable because of their lack of growth.

[@huh968]

no reason they can't do both

[@pumpkinbumpkin767]

when i watched the movie, i called the protagonist 'walmart moana' and the antagonist 'karen'

[@jeffreyquinde6707]

This movie really is a lame version of Moana. It’s got amazing concepts and stunning visuals, but the execution and pacing was really off.

[@johnbush5347]

Like Moana , Mulan, how to train a dragon with some boss baby n kungfu panda thrown in at random, every single part of this movie we've already seen done better

[@Christinavernon2382]

To me Raya looks like the adult version of Moana. For me she does

[@woolypuffin392]

Its a lame version of the avatar!

[@chiannegibbs9462]

@@woolypuffin392 yesss like a watered down Avatar

[@gabrielathero]

Raya: "I just really, really want my Ba back." What Sisu should have replied: "Your Ba? Bi***, i want my entire species back!"

[@Cosmic76Guardian]

Bruh, even though the movie is PG, which is impossible to add that line of language, lol. xD

[@isadoranurdin4402]

@@Cosmic76Guardian wooosh

[@user-dx8nl9qm9d]

@@Cosmic76Guardian Benchuri (that's it was pronounced, idk how to spell it) it their replacement for the other

[@AlyxAesthetics]

yeah screw raya for wanting to have her dad back when other people also have problems. obviously her dad being basically dead means nothing and she shouldnt care.

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

@William I believe it’s “binturi”.

[@ShadowLenahan]

I like how he didnt sin one of the big things i noticed. The Dragon Scroll said Sisu was as the END of the river yet on the map it looks like she went to ALL the rivers even the ones upstream. IF they know Heart is where the dragon boom magic went down then all raya had to do was look at the rivers east. Hell i would have just looked at the very last river and went backwards from there.

[@TheCumberCoIlective]

Rivers can flow west…

[@adde9506]

The hydrography of this movie is totally jacked. Rivers don't narrow, so those should all be springs feeding the rivers that feed the dragon shaped lake. And since flow is determined by overall topography, rivers can flow in any direction, but the *can't* flow to nowhere.

[@TheCumberCoIlective]

@@adde9506 Rivers *can* narrow

[@Swiftbow]

@@adde9506 Rivers narrow all the time... I think you're talking about the total volume. A narrowing river is going to be deeper or is drying up/going underground due to local conditions.

[@kyleewarren663]

@@adde9506 I wished the hydrography made more sense. According to the map, the River where Sisu is found appears to be flowing in the wrong direction when Raya encounters it. This could have been a cool detail if there was indication that Sisu could be found where the water flows backwards - but the story doesn’t include this. This water hydrography problem would bother me in a big budget film, but it would bother me a lot less in this film if water and waterways weren’t so important to this particular film.

[@matayaalexander8844]

10:37 Tuc Tuc’s expression is just perfect when he talks

[@Moon-Fang]

The only thing I liked about this movie is that it motivated me to watch Avatar The Last Airbender because I was thinking 'I could be watching avatar' the whole movie

[@selahaarif8648]

God you people compare literally everything from that culture to avatar

[@VanessaSerpenteagle]

Yeah. People compare everything with Avatar. I’ve watched Avatar and Legend of Korra. Both were pretty good but what was the whole big ordeal about it? Why did people go crazy for it back then? I have NEVER even watched Avatar The Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra until the year 2020.

[@Littlemissdidi]

@@VanessaSerpenteagle Legend of Korra wasn't even good. Most hype was from people too happy to see another avatar series to see how much it sucked and then you had the people who only liked it cuz she turned out to be bi in the end lmao.

[@thewarden1398]

"Those ropes are so far apart Shaq could shimmy through them." Best sin ever.

[@ayanoaishi8489]

Okay but like Gordon Ramsay would go off on Raya’s dad for his cooking

[@loturzelrestaurant]

2:32: Wow, what a dumb Remark of Cinema Sins. Wow. Just Wow.

[@lydiabogan]

@@loturzelrestaurant QUIT USING THE SAME COMMENT!!

[@robertlynch8971]

"the last one is always the right one" is ALWAYS true regardless of movies......why would anyone continue looking for something after they found it?

[@CaseyJewels]

It's not that it's the last one they're checking, but the last one period. If Sisu hadn't been at that spot, there were no other spots to check.

[@heybatterbatter]

What IS weird however, is that that particular river, the MAIN END of the TAIL wasn't the one she searched first.

[@wiksolop72]

"...and people being people, they fought over the gem..." So. The End? Right? Cause with that single line, you've now _guaranteed_ I'll be completely uninvested in whatever bs 'happily ever after' you're going to try to sell me on. If you're going to use "because people are trash" as a major inciting plot point, I'm gonna be hard pressed to believe you about 90 minutes later when the movie tries to tell me everything worked out totally fine in the end.

[@chinwenduizenwata6763]

@Wiksolop72 wow good point

[@alphanoodle1877]

even though this realistically is what would happen because like many a movie states, people are indeed trash

[@shamewdvsdvnmfev335]

Is it really that crazy of a concept to grasp?? To make u invested Do they have to go into detail with stories of history to explain why people are trash to you or is that basic knowledge that we’ve come to understand over years of umm idk living???

[@sycho-tech5104]

Right, the movie would’ve been perfect if it ended with everyone dead.

[@Jenacide]

@@shamewdvsdvnmfev335 I think the point went well over your head

[@josephscanzillo9715]

This really would have worked better as a tv series. There's just too much plot, which makes the the pacing feel rushed.

[@_tideaina]

Did he just add a sin for Raya and her dad sitting up straight? 😂😂

[@darkfireblaze7029]

God forbid anyone maintains good posture 🤣

[@jimmyjames2132]

I'd be upset too, being called out like that for bad posture

[@LuisBrito-ly1ko]

14:08 Technically, it happened several times in history. Vlad Dracula III “The Impaler” challenged Vladislav II of Wallachia to a duel near the town of Târgsor. Vlad’s Army was outnumbered yet Vladislav accepted. The same happened with Dan III. He challenged Vlad “The Impaler” to a duel when his army got ambushed by Vlad’s Army, and Vlad accepted.

[@alexchristoffels194]

Glad to know I'm not the only one who didn't find that baby amusing

[@blanket1388]

it's so goddamn infuriating, no wonder Raya looked at it and said "remind me to never have children"

[@jiji7250]

Bruh you ppl are taking cartoons too seriously

[@alexchristoffels194]

@@jiji7250aw do you feel all big and cool after saying that? Cause storytelling is childish and cringe isn't it? It's not a real profession noo it's just people hallucinating trying to make children laugh. It's not like there's anything beyond flashy colors on the screen, because cartoons are childish! Hey let's discuss how miserable we are cause we don't have stacks of paper with numbers on them in our houses! Cause we're taking a cartoon too seriously and this person doesn't approve of that!

[@thathuman5477]

@@alexchristoffels194 savage

[@Jerepasaurus]

@@jiji7250 Why are you even here commenting when the whole point of these videos is to be critical, because its fun? You came here to be offended.

[@ithinkihadeight]

I liked it, but the biggest thing wrong with this movie to me was that it should have been a series instead. It felt so rushed, like a three or four season show that they had condensed down, I couldn't help but imagine if it had gotten the time to do all the worldbuilding and relationships of something like Avatar the Last Airbender, or The Dragon Prince.

[@missmunchkin4121]

Yeah I definitely agree! although the movie itself wasn’t rushed since the animation and effects used throughout were absolutely stunning the story was definitely pushed all into one movie, definitely would’ve done better as a series since each place they visited would’ve been more in depth

[@emilymckelvey2530]

Or a videogame, a really cool Legend of Zelda style video game

[@ahstiasummers5583]

Agreed. Seeing Raya and the Last Dragon get split up into a trilogy of movies would've been better. More character development and worldbuilding and improving the story's message. Condensing it into a single movie makes everything feel rushed.

[@benwood5659]

at least once, i would like to see an ancient, highly revered person/creature/god/whatever from long ago be revived in the present for a story, and instead of them being another case of casual mannerisms like sisu again, we get more of the comically serious type.

[@404LKNL]

The wish dragon!

[@heybatterbatter]

Yeah, I think that would have made for a much better movie. There was an insane amount of comic relief that just didn't work. If you HAVE to have a comic relief side kick (which I argue that no, you don't, but Disney's gonna Disney into their toy lines forever) then have ONE, not basically every side character except the antagonist.

[@joshuaarnett762]

The second I saw the rain magic all I could think was "So why is it not now always raining 24/7 to keep the Druun away?"

[@georockstar09]

No sin for how Sisu looks like My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic??

[@sharkdogkp8440]

That deserved a sin xD

[@quinnperry3197]

Sisu's design was SO terrible. They set the story in a very eastern coded environment, then made the dragon look like a cross between a my little pony and Elsa's Fursona. Completely immersion breaking and such an eyesore, I can't believe he never sinned that

[@georockstar09]

@@quinnperry3197 eyesore, that's the word...

[@jiji7250]

@@quinnperry3197 they should've made the dragon unable to talk too

[@blakeizapuzzy]

fr did you see Sisu's brother, looked like princess celestia.

[@bad2dabohn1992]

I would like to point out that this entire movies plot was due to a pre teen girl trusting some outsider girl she never met before THINKING that she could keep a secret of where a precious gemstone was and NOT call to arms every tribe in the area. I mean there's child like innocence and sheer stupidity that im sure even 6 year olds were scratching their heads when they first saw this

[@johnbush5347]

I have a book smart(straight a student) preteen step daughter, you'd be surprised how dumb they are, my step daughter almost gave up our address to a little girl she never met before while we were in line to get lunch, this movie sucked ass hard but that part ain't why

[@dua_junaid]

Actually that part was believable. Not saying there aren't any preteens with common sense, but if you think back to a time when you met someone you _really_ got along the first time meeting and thinking "wow we're going to be besties forever cause we clicked so fast," forgetting that you barely know this other child and revealing everything about your life to them. It's nativity that does exist, and it's very common in preteens especially because they're so trusting never imagining the bad intentions many people may have.

[@dua_junaid]

@@johnbush5347 Exactly.

[@Anon-qp3kt]

Most kids are naive. It was the only believable part of the movie

[@dbseamz]

I was actually really curious how things would have gone if the girls hadn’t gone there. The other Fang folks knew to respond to the flare, so there was obviously some kind of plan in place. Perhaps Namaari wasn’t the only one given a flare, perhaps the plan was for someone to sneak around and find the gem chamber on their own, and Raya trusting Namaari just made things go a little faster.

[@dugishdub8815]

Jeremy saying "drippin" is something I didn't know I needed

[@warcry551]

I pull up

[@warcry551]

Lesgoo

[@warcry551]

That ain't dababy, that's my baby

[@knightwolf3511]

13:00 when you put modern haircuts into a movie that takes place years in the past

[@cityinsect]

this movie was so focused on making it family friendly that it turned cringe :(

[@kaynu_Z]

For you

[@snakeeatingapringle0]

This movie with some blood and war would instantly make it 10x better

[@afellowhuman8944]

@@kaynu_Z to a lot of people as well, with all of the terrible lesson of blindly trust someone who caused a lot fo trauma to you or Sisu's Elsa ripoff design

[@Cosmic76Guardian]

@@snakeeatingapringle0 Hope if there will be an TV series, prequel or/and sequel movies to have a PG-13 rating, and continue/learn more about the Stories of Kumandra. Edit: Or R rated by Zack Snyder with an instant blood & violence. Went too far though, lol, just because I watched the Zack Snyder's Justice League. 🤣

[@Majs.OnTheBeat]

lol yh

[@anna__345]

i hate what disney has been trying to do lately. they’ve been doing these “women and young girls empowerment” movies which is great, i support that but they still play the women as these people who trust way too easily no matter how much they’ve been hurt. it’s just playing into the women’s stereotypes.

[@breathingviolatestermsofse9915]

Real women don't trust one another. They are in constant competition all the time and secretly hate one another. That's why this is a fantasy. Sisterhood is the fantasy pipedream

[@anna__345]

@@breathingviolatestermsofse9915 i guess i’ll have to agree with you on that one. most women do constantly try to be better than everyone they see. but not every girl does that. i would like to see a disney movie with all the disney villains working together to portray a sweet yet sinister plan that has something to do with each oh their backstories.

[@anna__345]

it would be called “The Antagonists”

[@threesomeink]

If you've never had your trust betrayed by anyone, how do you know not to trust everyone? Also, kids trust easily.

[@Alphasnowbordergirl]

I agree that they've failed at the women empowerment movies. Cinderella remake, she's so "empowered" she sang instead of trying to get herself out of the tower, Mulan her character showed little emotion and had little connection to the people around her, Belle was so damn perfect that she had to suddenly become an inventor, get scorned for teaching a girl to read and seemed to have little flaws, Jasmine almost worked until she had a female empowerment song that ruined the momentum of the movie and beat it over the head she was being silenced, Kim possible was such a mess I'm not touching that. Often it is beating you over the head with the message, makes these girls too perfect and therefore make them bland, or trying to overcompensate and discard their princess image as almost a shameful thing. Ironically, Star Versus the Forces of Evil is probably one of their better ones of late with someone not afraid to have a girl like cute things and be a princess, but be severely flawed and have to learn to grow up, and be a badass and fight. Penny from the Proud Family and Kim Possible the cartoon also did strong females well. If only their movies would take note.

[@dua_junaid]

Wayy too much storytelling and exposition in this movie. I liked the trust theme, and how Raya had to trust Namaari before anything could be fixed, that was a good climax, however, throughout the movie they kinda shoved that theme in your face. It was getting repetitive and annoying how much the writers tried to highlight Raya's trust issues... We get it, oh my god. ALSO (sorry for the rant), the side characters were useless. I did not care one bit for the big guy, the small guy, and the baby (why was there a baby). This movie had potential, but it became another Disney film with better visuals/animation than the story. They really gotta up their game with their animated movies and understand that the classic animations that we all remember today weren't because of the fabulous visuals, but because of the memorable storyline. I hope Luca is better.

[@PY11235]

Fun fact: Luca is way way bettef

[@rosalinamacarita01]

I haven't seen the movie yet and I won't, but this movie feels too generic and repetitive. it's essentially a mixed moana and mulan story.

[@amentlik]

Agreed, I don't understand why they go out of their way to make stories MORE convoluted instead of simpler stories that kids can understand. I think that would be more impactful. In this case, I think they did need characters from each of the districts, ya know, for plot reasons, but I agree the baby at least was super dumb (and I only liked the big guy because he was voiced by BD Wong). In fact, I only liked the dragon because she was voiced by Awkwafina! And the visuals were amazing, but I don't think my kids got it AT ALL, and I was even confused. Disney tries to make you feel things by forcing them down your throat, this is becoming a theme.

[@dorukhanozen2580]

At this point they have a plot formula with checks in this point, gullible likeable main hero with flaws check, lovable animal sidekick check, comedic sidekicks check, Most of the new animation movies do not try to make something out of the box for most likely it causes fear in execs for it might flop. Hence, we are stuck with these lackluster narratives with teh same ol reskinned cast, acts and plot elements.

[@dua_junaid]

@@dorukhanozen2580 Exactly. They did the same thing with Frozen 2, played it safe. Frozen 2 followed the generic "Hero's Journey" format that everyone is familiar with (the *call to adventure* was _literally_ a call, oh my gosh). They're so afraid at this point that their fear is actually working against them. I hope someone over there stands up to the execs and speaks on behalf of the audience who doesn't want a set formula, but a unique and meaningful story that we can relate to...

[@ChaosNo65SolarWind]

17:00 no, Namaari had Fang's gen piece with her. Her mother was unprotected at that moment.

[@UrsaWarrior95]

The problem is that the mc depicts so much trust to her rival at the very last moment. With everything screwed up, the next best thing she does is to trust the one person that's very opposite on her beliefs. A snake is still a snake. There should be separation between trust and just staying neutral and cautious.

[@lydiabogan]

Yes

[@dorukhanozen2580]

They basically missed a great character growth moment. The fact that you may have flaws does not mean you can grow out of them. MC's new friends and forming new trust bonds over rival would be a great oppurtunity but ofc being a Disney movie everyone had to trust on the very second and join the cause.

[@lastfirst4803]

It didn't really seem that they hated each other. They kept having playful banter that was like flirting, and yeah I agree with you, the trust thing bothered me A LOT,

[@lydiabogan]

@@lastfirst4803 Someone had to say it, I really agree with you here

[@kaynu_Z]

How? Raya dont trust people that ease

[@stickthelanding4785]

It’s funny I was having high hopes for this movie only to be disappointed. And for Luca I thought it wasn’t going to be good but found it to be a pretty good movie.

[@Elizabeth-po1tb]

Exactly the same for me!

[@Elizabeth-po1tb]

@@3nowStorm honestly neither did I! The art style really threw me cause it was..different(?) but a friend told me that they think Alberto has bpd which I have as well and I watched it just to see if he did. And then just while watching it, I absolutely loved the entire story. It was different than I was expecting and the story wasn’t a stereotypical one either. Really took me by surprise

[@rpgqueen8737]

Luca’s okay. It’s nothing spectacular, innovative, or new, but it’s not challenging or offensive either. It’ll probably be somewhat forgotten in a couple of years

[@iangachogu9217]

What’s wrong with you stupido 😂😂

[@N1CK1M1N4J]

thissss

[@TheNorthShoreCody]

“Actually giving up and getting stoned sounds pretty great right now so…” So glad you actually just ended there lmao

[@sirsapphire3499]

Oh my gosh, I don't normally just bust out laughing, but 0:54 got me. "This is what we used to be" "Antelope?" XD

[@AlexLovesKoolade]

“Raya and the Last Dragon” reminded me of “Avatar The Last Airbender” thought the whole movie. EVEN THE TITLES sounds similar

[@calebproductions1264]

Especially with the different nations and the fact that Namaari was trying to act like Zuko.

[@randompromises1038]

@@calebproductions1264 i like zuko, for the fact that he's become an interesting villain arc subversion (although i wouldn't call him a villain due to being a product of his environment as a young and impressionable child), but namaari doesn't get enough screentime to develop that sort of complexity. she gets more time as a bitch that's unsympathetic about what she's doing than she does realizing the damage she's contributing to.

[@calebproductions1264]

@@randompromises1038 anti-villain is a good term of who Zuko is or was, same thing with the Babylon Rogues from the Sonic Riders series.

[@randompromises1038]

@@calebproductions1264 ye fair point thank you

[@Jy.2812]

Omg that's literally what I was thinking 😂😂

[@OctoAnt_A]

Another sin: How has none of the statues decayed or break apart?

[@lydiabogan]

I KNOW RIGHT!!?

[@PerturbatorFan]

Kid’s film logic, its literally so bad

[@kingnoobadooba903]

Magic statues?🤷🏽‍♂️

[@p0m3p0]

Well it's magic

[@lydiabogan]

@@PerturbatorFan yes, WHY DOES EVERY DISNEY MOVIE HAS TO HAVE LOGIC THAT MAKES NO SENSE!!?

[@Helloworld-ss5uv]

I still can’t get over how much Sisu looks like Elsa in dragon form 😐Its like they just copy pasted her face onto the body of an eastern dragon. 🐉I feel like it would have been better if they had gone with a different design for the character

[@sonicplushvideos08]

She kinda does

[@demoncyborg5458]

The original concept design was so much prettier. She actually looked like an Eastern dragon rather than a My Little Pony character.

[@NgocAnh-ef5gr]

This is actually based on Naga and add some legs, but for some reason they decided to call it dragon …

[@Helloworld-ss5uv]

@@demoncyborg5458 I just looked it up and I could not agree more. The concept art looked way better than the finished product. I understand that they were going for a more out-of-the-box design, but I felt like they went too out-of-the-box and not enough out-of-the-box at the same time with Elsa-faced Sisu

[@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574]

@@demoncyborg5458 facts

[@randompersonprobably4688]

when he started singing "look around look around at how lucky we are to be alive right now" i subscribed

[@dixmis]

This movie could have finished when everyone changed into stones and that would be beautiful but no they had to make a happy ending.

[@theaboveaveragefangirl]

How is everyone turning to stone a good ending?

[@winxbuneari5430]

I’d be ok with that ending

[@threesomeink]

@@theaboveaveragefangirl Dr. Stone prequel. lol

[@dustyrose192]

@@theaboveaveragefangirl Its not a good ending, we need more bad endings. Bad endings typically happen more with stage plays as the characters can come out and you see that they're ok but in movie adaptations there's usually a good ending because once the scene ends, thats it, theres no bows after curtain call.

[@trunkuza]

I ended up laughing and saying to myself "Yo, imagine if the studio was bold enough that they just went to the credits *right now*" when Namaari joined the group and turned to stone, and the gem's light fully turned off. It could have been a powerful, impactful, and oddly satisfying "bad ending" movie, where it ceases to be one of deus ex magicka, and instead becomes one of accepting the time that you have alongside those that you've come to trust, regardless if your plans or goals succeed... Like, they could have pulled an Inception-esque ending by having the camera linger longer on the lightly losing light loss, and have it feel full of futile flickers for the finale frames, exempting the extinguishing of the illumination's emissions and leaving the ending *just* open-ended enough that the viewers get to debate whether or not the world gets fixed, without overtly telling us if it does. . . Buuuut. . . It's Disney Animation, and not Disney Marvel, so the movie's en- *has* to -ding with Smiley Smiley Happy Juice™.

[@panther8707]

I was watching this, and as soon as Ba threw Raya into the River, I could almost instantly hear your say, "Why didn't he jump into the river?"

[@firespark5048]

He was hurt and probably would have drowned. No return from that, even if her daughter managed to save the World

[@JoeMama-yf8dd]

yeah he would have drowned but he could have used the crystal in HIS HAND

[@firespark5048]

@@JoeMama-yf8dd He knew that this was the end of the line for him. So what if he used the crystal? They would both still be stuck on that bridge. He knew that Raya had to leave him behind, so he threw her of, because she never would have left him from her own will.

[@JoeMama-yf8dd]

@@firespark5048 he could of threw raya then use the crystal to at least try to save himself

[@firespark5048]

@@JoeMama-yf8dd ah yes, he couldve thrown his daughter into the wild without any protection

[@lucinda_null]

His summary of Raya in the description was basically how I felt. Besides a few things holding it back it could have been a good movie. Oh well. I’ve been waiting for this, can’t wait to watch!

[@chloegreene5316]

16:53 Are we not going to talk about the fact that Namari stole the gem from her mom so her mom was defenseless?

[@dbseamz]

I was about to. That gem chunk was so central in the big betrayal scene that I would have thought Jeremy would have seen it and made the connection that it obviously wasn’t on the staff anymore.

[@redhead7975]

The fact that you sang Hamilton at the exact moment I was thinking it, I’m take 100 sins off of cinema sins but also adding 100 sins for making me take sins away from something that needs sins

[@stephaniehudson7370]

I’m going to have the ENTIRE Hamilton score in my head for the rest of the day

[@capuiakid]

Ngl, the beginning gave me Avatar: The Last Airbender vibes. 19:08 That entire part had me laughing 😂 🤣💀

[@willh6293]

While watching this I was so certain you were gonna make a point about the fact that the dragon gem didn’t bring back all the dragons the first time but in order to have a happy ending all the dragons came back the second time 🙄

[@lunayen]

My guess is that Sisu was asleep, hence why she couldn't summon the other dragons. Her siblings did entrust her with all their magic.

[@whattoputin]

@@lunayen but sisu is dead at the end when the dragon gem was reassemble.

[@lunayen]

@@whattoputin I'm talking about the 500 years *before* she was shot to death.

[@whattoputin]

@@lunayen yes I get that. She was asleep hence she could not summon the other dragons. But then when all the other dragons were revived at the end, she is dead. So she really is not that important in relation to summoning the other dragons.

[@Ruler_of_theUniverse]

12:13 do you know what else has nine stomachs? A flying bison from avatar the last airbender