Everything Wrong With Halloween II In 19 Minutes Or Less

[@CinemaSins]

Outtakes are here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jX7YnH19hbiMra8

[@sexmachine77]

Hey

[@dootanator_]

The sins of cinemas do a sin on a cinema movie

[@Jasm783]

Can u do squid game?

[@sillybilly686]

I would rather have a worthless one shot then 30 quick cuts in a row. 🤢

[@kalikohendrix1923]

I don't know if you've heard of it, but you should do "Happily N'ever After". It's like a medieval, cartoon Cinderella/ Deadpool crossover.

[@grfrjiglstan]

"Your friends are dead, Laurie. It's not _all_ about you." Lol, I've thought this same thing many times.

[@deadchannel3]

Wait what...

[@kennethboozer6148]

This comment sent me lol

[@JoelKellenProductions]

Ironic, because that's almost exactly what someone says in the newest movie.

[@blatherskite3009]

As one of those people who thinks the Michael Myers story was wrapped up at the end of the original Halloween II and everything beyond that is fan-fic, it kind of IS all about Laurie: she's the one who Michael is single-mindedly stalking throughout those two films; everyone else either got in his way or was a bit of warm-up practice.

[@martinwakefield8138]

I've lived through this thing many times

[@dionyates2482]

To protect Laurie in the knowledge that she was Michael Myers' younger sister, authorities situated her with a family JUST A FEW SECONDS WALK from the house in which she once lived, in which the notorious murder took place.

[@Seiraryu]

I read that in his voice. XD

[@jbvader721]

@@Seiraryu Did you also hear a *ding* in your head too?

[@jasonarthurs3885]

@@jbvader721 Yes to all the above.

[@kenik2023]

🤣😂😅

[@marcelbey-el1947]

i think leatherface will kick michael myers ass😕

[@SamsarasArt]

I don't care what anyone says, this is one of the best horror sequels ever. I love that it takes place immediately following halloween 1

[@jeremiahc620]

Exactly it and Halloween 2018 are my favorites besides the original of course.

[@mixedchinaa]

But why is he killing everybody that has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL PLOT! Isn’t he supposed to be chasing his sister 😟 why does he come out on every Halloween? What does he do when it isn’t October… does he just hide like ‘aw f-- it , I’ll just hide’

[@crashers17]

Hell yeah!!!!

[@notmyrealname453]

Yeah, I’m a sucker for ‘Immediate Sequels’.

[@christopherharper9932]

Yup. But they couldn't leave well enough alone!

[@bbwibb02]

One of my favorite things from the alternate TV cut is that when Karen is kissing Michael's hand, he gives a big eye roll before he dunks her head into the hot tub.

[@acelovesdiyschristopher7023]

Iconic. We stan a sassy killer.

[@multitudeofidols]

I can never get over how when Michael gets stabbed in the eye with a coathanger in the first film, he grunts and is clearly in pain. Yet here, later that same night, he takes a bullet through each eye (and effectively two into his brain) and seems just inconvenienced by not being able to see. "It's like one long movie," they keep telling me.

[@clayisahottie]

Pretty much Halloween 1 and 2 *is* just one long movie if you watch it all straight through back to back.

[@robertmanista2065]

Two completely different thoughts that key into Mikey getting shot and the damage inflicted on him between the two films. Carpenter had his arm twisted into being involved with this film by the original producers, and he didn't want to leave himself open to being dragged back again. So, he wanted to completely destroy Michael at the end of this film, down to him being burnt to a crisp and blind. Skipping past H3, there was a thought that Michael could still be alive, but a blind, charred husk waiting to escape from the hospital at the beginning of H4. In the early going, the "evil" was driving Michael to continue to function despite the 13 bullet wounds we know of, the lack of eyes, etc. Instead, the fourth part just pretty much ignores everything we see at the end of H2.

[@aaronhetzel5848]

To be fair, when you're supposedly "evil on two legs," just about everything is nothing more than an inconvenience to ya.

[@davidkanengieter]

@@aaronhetzel5848 TO BE FAAAAIIIRRR....

[@tuckershuff1441]

@@davidkanengieter To be faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr👌

[@nobodysbusiness5186]

The best part of all of these movies is the fact that Michael just has family issues

[@TheWanderer_99]

*Michael pulls up with a knife* Laurie: What are you doin Birth Bro?

[@katerinavialpando3620]

*minus 2018 and Halloween Kills

[@seancoats1241]

Like almost every serial killer in history lol. Thats what makes Michael so iconic. Any physco could put a mask on like that and start killing.

[@travzimmerman1340]

@@katerinavialpando3620 And the original.

[@blackparademistress1]

@@seancoats1241 *psycho

[@NastyLittleBagginses]

I get chills every time I see Dana Carvey nodding in that one scene. Truly a chilling, highly underrated performance.

[@Filthy_Larry]

And he would go on to work with Michael Myers.

[@gamleskalle1]

Michael Myers drove him to Mike Myers.

[@johnzenone6940]

In the book, the reporter gets offed by MM as she drives to the hospital, but gets a flat. They justified cutting that from the film to give time for more walking shots.

[@Venom94.]

I can’t wait for the Michael-verse with all these different Halloween timelines.

[@Lightshade393]

I know, there's so many freaking timelines. Time to put my nerd hat on for anyone wondering about them. Timeline one: Halloween (1977) as a standalone film. Timeline two: Halloween and Halloween II (1981) as a duology. Timeline three: Halloween, Halloween II, Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers, Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers, and Halloween 6: The Curse of Michael Myers (which has both a theatrical and director's cut), which some fans refer to as the "Thorn timeline" because of the emphasis on mysticism and druids and crap. The second portion focuses on Jamie Lloyd, Laurie's daughter, being stalked by her uncle until he finally kills her in 6, which is a serious bummer. This is also the timeline that features Sam Loomis the most and personally I think the series lost something special when Donald Pleasance sadly passed away shortly after 5 finished filming, which somewhat accounts for the two different cuts of 5 when they needed to do some reshoots and reedit. Timeline four: Halloween, Halloween II, and Halloween H20: 20 Years Later. The timeline where Laurie comes back and which ignores 4, 5, 6, negating the character of Jamie Lloyd, Laurie's daughter, and bringing Michael's total kill count waaaay back down. There is also a nebulous Timeline "four point five" where there was going to be a scene in H2- which canonized 4, 5, and 6 but this was deleted during the script portion, ostensibly to focus on Laurie, but also probably because the weird leap of logic that Laurie would fake her death and *abandon her daughter* to be thrown to the wolves in case her brother ever came back while still having a son she apparently decided to raise and focus on made her character seem VERY unsympathetic. Timeline five: Halloween, Halloween II, Halloween H20, Halloween: Resurrection. The timeline that definitively ends Laurie's character arc in this particular timeline as Michael finally kills her and seemingly retires until they decide to film a reality show in his old home. Yeah, there's a reason Resurrection killed the franchise for a while. Timeline six: Halloween (2007) and Halloween II (2009). The Rob Zombie timeline where he did his own spin on the story. A lot of fans have mixed feelings about these films given how different the tone and style is for them. Timeline seven: Halloween (1977), Halloween (2018), and the upcoming films Halloween Kills, and the supposed "last film" of the franchise (until they need to make more money, of course), Halloween Ends. The timeline where Laurie becomes a survivalist nut and Michael Myers is still treated as the root of all evil despite only having a one-night killing spree forty years before the next one occurs. CinemaSins has pointed out this timeline MIGHT have made slightly more sense if they kept Halloween II in continuity to explain Michael and Laurie's connection as well as make him seem more fearsome and this great mythical killer everyone keeps talking about but I digress. PHEW! I think the Halloween series has more verses right now than the MCU!

[@thegamingpigeon3216]

To your comment at the end, yeah Halloween 3 is weird until you look at it from the perspective of what the studio was trying to do: they were trying to make a Halloween horror anthology series. It wasn't gonna be centered around Michael Myers, that was just going to be the first 2 films, hence why at the end of Halloween 2 Michael was supposed to be legitimately dead. They were going to keep making different horror movies titled Halloween but they'd involve different characters and killers and whatnot, but after Halloween 3 got such a mixed reaction, they decided to go back to Michael.

[@SymbioticDivisions]

This is almost right, except that it was Carpenter that wanted the anthology approach for the films, not the studio. Matter of fact, for the second Halloween Carpenter wanted to go with the theme of the urban legend about "razorblades in the candy" story, which is why we see that one kid going to hospital after he just ate some candy that cut his mouth up. The studio and producers interfered and wanted a continuation of the Myers story, so Carpenter wrote it with the ending that Michael would burn to death in hopes that it would end the Myers story. Then Halloween III came out, was poorly promoted and no one was explained to that the Myers story was supposed to be done....and well, the rest is history.

[@amityislandchum]

Yeah basically, Carpenter never wanted a sequel to the Michael Myers story. But it made so much money, the studio forced him to write a sequel. He wrote the script in one weekend and definitively killed off Michael and Loomis so he could get to his anthology idea. Eventually, we got Creepshow and Trick 'r Treat and The Twilight Zone movie and all those other horror anthology movies. Nothing that really matched what Carpenter was going for, but that's probably for the better.

[@JoelKellenProductions]

Yeah, I heard about that. What they should've done was make Halloween and Halloween II just a three hour long movie. Then Season Of The Witch would've been Halloween 2. If that happened, I'm pretty sure everyone would've been fine with the anthology.

[@robjef622]

@@JoelKellenProductions Yeah, but who wants to sit through a three hour film about a guy in a William Shatner mask slowly stalking and killing people? It would be boring as hell.

[@JoelKellenProductions]

@@robjef622 True. Maybe they should've marketed it as Halloween, Part 1, and Halloween, Part 2. Batman did it, so Michael should've.

[@tmajcan94]

I really love this movie, but I've been dying for the day you sinned it lol. RIP Donald Pleasance, such a legend. I love this video great work! 🎃

[@fyrflyr2378]

"You don't know what death is"

[@PimpMacSlickBac]

He provided a very unique character, I'm glad he passed with that knowledge. Most don't

[@damienlu7318]

You love this movie? Why?

[@PimpMacSlickBac]

@@damienlu7318 solid question... even Jamie Lee Curtis only counts H20, H40 and the newest one as Canon

[@damienlu7318]

@@PimpMacSlickBac Yeah I was talking about this with my brother the other day, the only major thing about H20 is Laurie had a son. And the new one, she has a daughter.

[@MariaTex3]

My favorite thing about this movie is how Michael does not seem to understand how to operate doors. He doesn't kick them open or use the handles, he just walks forward and they break around him or are forced open by him just walking through them as though they don't exist.

[@jacara1981]

Michael didn't kill them because he realized that they have been married for years and are already dead inside.

[@diamondbeauty88]

Good one 😂😂😂😂

[@Dargonhuman]

That made me snort-laugh so hard coffee came out my nose, and I don't even drink coffee!

[@xx_redwood_xx9737]

boomer humor

[@ajw5691]

😅 That's a good joke.

[@dustinschmid335]

😂😂

[@grapeshot]

You can definitely tell Halloween 2 was more about competing with Friday the 13th because the suspense that you had in the first Halloween went out the window for more gore and violence.

[@thedeepfriar745]

And it’s about the same quality as that movie too. Like seriously I quite like Halloween series but I know that this movie and all of the sequels are a major step down from how tense and amazing the original film is.

[@kingsting12]

This comment will age well

[@Nickr3000]

Halloween II is better for having more and better suspense, better pacing and gore.

[@amityislandchum]

It wasn't about Friday the 13th, but about the slasher craze in general. People forget that the first Ft13 had almost no gore in it, and the second barely had any more. It was really more about competing with films like The Evil Dead, The Prowler, My Bloody Valentine, The Burning, Nightmare, Maniac, Madman, etc. Most of those movies have been forgotten (except Evil Dead, obviously) by all but horror nuts, but they were huge at the time.

[@tjmack010]

@@amityislandchum Um the first Friday The 13th film was a gore fest at the time, you had the Kevin Bacon death scene, the girl with an axe to the face, a decapitation and them killing a snake foreal.

[@simonboccanegra3811]

See, I wouldn't describe Laurie in the '78 original as tough as nails. Resourceful in her fight to survive (despite being terrified), yes, but she's not that out of the ordinary when we meet her and her friends, and that was her appeal. It's only when JLC returns to the franchise playing a traumatized adult that she becomes a fierce badass. I have some fondness for Halloween II while acknowledging that its script is a few drafts short of being ready for the cameras. But then, I also have fun with its ridiculousness, like the deputy saying, "He came out of nowhere. I couldn't stop." So, was the deputy's original plan to plow into that van at a high speed WITHOUT killing a pedestrian? Why was he driving that fast in the first place, considering what he was there to do? It's not as though Leigh's daughter was going to get more dead.

[@thegamingpigeon3216]

17:46 "I shot him six times earlier, now I shall try five. Maybe it needs to be a specific number of shots for this to work" *That cracked me the fuck up*

[@masere]

In the Dirty Harry style.

[@maulressurected4405]

Loomis managed to get 7 shots out of a revolver without even reloading.

[@willpoundstone71]

There was a deleted scene that shows the power going out (thanks Michael) and then backup generators kicking in, explaining why it's so dark. There were a lot of very helpful deleted scenes, including one showing Jimmy alive and well at the end, but they cut them for the sake of run time, and yet they had time for the razor blade kid and the break in at the elementary school *shrugs emoji*

[@mikemurphy2932]

I miss Donald Pleasance. You always remembered his performances (from the Halloween movies to Blofeld in James Bond to even the Pumaman and Warrior of the Lost World, so memorably spoofed on Mystery Science Theater 3000).

[@mike91mdk45]

Love this one just as much as the first. The fact it picks up right from the last instead of jumping ahead a yr or several, I think is a plus. The terror and tension in haddonfield is still fresh. The hospital setting, a battered laurie sneaking around to stay one step ahead of michael. Michael's brutality in this is good. Walking right through the glass doors with that killer tunnel vision fits him perfectly. A damn fine sequel

[@leob4403]

This is a horror movie made for stupid people

[@mike91mdk45]

@@leob4403 You get a kick out of stupid people, then you'll love halloween kills. The whole town of haddonfield shits the bed all night

[@libradawg9]

@@mike91mdk45 Led by the kid Laurie was babysitting that night. He obsessed over Michael for 40 years and still didn't know what he looked like.

[@amityislandchum]

People often hail Laurie as the best Final Girl in horror, but they forget that she was a complete damsel-in-distress in these original films. It's only Halloween: H20 that gave her the "Linda Hamilton in T2" transformation. And for that reason, I really HATE that the new films have erased H20 from the Laurie Strode canon.

[@jenniferwilliams5478]

Halloween h20 was a great movie.

[@robjef622]

Halloween II is not as iconic or memorable as the first film, but still stands as a fairly stong movie on its own right. Hopefully Halloween Kills will parralel some of the same moments but still be original.

[@EternalPayne]

I agree, i wish Halloween 2018 had kept it canon, but I understand why they didn't

[@shawnhall9792]

I mean the sequel is my ultimate favorite the creepiness of the vibe the hospital bein so damn empty always terrified me . the first did nothing for me but i still appreciate it

[@michaelfarrell4824]

I consider the first two as one movie, Halloween II is just Halloween part II in my mind

[@Pedro-lg9wz]

Agree, i considered the first two movies as part 1 and part 2, of the same movie, since they happened in the same night of the original event and they are way better than the rest that follow, that is until the remake

[@patrickmcgregor5168]

@@EternalPayne if it wasn't for the sibling twist, I'm sure it could've been. That's basically the main reason John Carpenter hates this movie as he seriously regrets that decision

[@CHAOTIXMaddLass]

Now that just leaves Halloweens 3-6, halloween: resurrection, and the 2nd rob zombie movie and the entire halloween series will be sinned (I already know they'll sin halloween kills)

[@ParagonZR]

Please do the rest of the Halloween movies, I loved Halloween 4🙏💙

[@stevenmacaulay8807]

Literally the last film before it went to hell as a franchise... that ending was a good way to kill of Michael and idk seeing as how they are apprently doing it for the Halloween kills it must have been good. I want him to sin the fuck out of the Halloween 6's producers cut.

[@ParagonZR]

@@stevenmacaulay8807 Yeah for me Halloween 4 was unbeatable, 5 was actually ok IMO, the ones after that shouldn't have the Halloween title, complete garbage👌

[@tshelby5212]

You know that's a high five emoji right

[@ParagonZR]

@@tshelby5212 Yeah I really don't care dude

[@cobymcguire2598]

I was hoping yall would do Halloween Resurrection I wanna hear Jeremy make fun of Busta Rhymes beating Michael's ass 🤣

[@CandieP]

I thought Busta Rhymes was in Resurrection… either way, that was a cringy performance 😂😩

[@cobymcguire2598]

@@CandieP yeah you're right 🤣 my bad

[@cobymcguire2598]

@@CandieP and they already sinned H20 😂 Thanks for the correction

[@shawnhall9792]

@@CandieP the whole movie was cringe lol

[@jonathank2512]

Yesss god that movie was horrible

[@ashleyhillman2267]

October in Illinois can mean nice fall weather, extreme heat or extreme cold honestly you never know how October will go 😅

[@scottstark5528]

Same in Indiana, two years ago the high temp. on October 31 was 68 farenheit, unfortunately that was just after midnight and by 5:00 pm temperatures dropped to 30 farenheit and we got accumulating snow. Also had the A/C unit running on Halloween night to keep the house comfortable.

[@jillkoerber5192]

Wisconsin too lol it just got cold this week. Was in the 70s the beginning of October. This time last year we had accumulating snow lol

[@jimmydean5182]

The freaking janitor part @12:35 cracked me up the most! Now we're asking the real questions! 😂😂

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

I still argue Loomis is the comic relief character.

[@gentblue]

Like a comedy psychologist. Man has trouble treating his child patient, treats him like a monster, surprised when he becomes a monster. We all know who the real villain is! Michael Myers is just another victim.

[@alfa01spotivo]

@@gentblue not really. He spent like 8 years trying to reach him

[@MasterThrasher]

@@gentblue On the old Halloween Message Boards, there was a thread about how Loomis was a jerk. Off the top of my head was the fact he blew up the hospital where there were babies in the maternity ward.

[@look-see6010]

Tbh I feel like doctor Loomis is the only smart character in any horror movies

[@leob4403]

@@look-see6010 the only way he would appear a smart character is if you are really stupid

[@Statuskuo75]

nothing as scary as a hospital on Halloween night. actually quite brilliant flick. incapacitate someone while a psycho is looking for her.

[@Camopar87]

Weather in Illinois is ridiculous. It can be 45° in the morning and 80° in the afternoon

[@tshelby5212]

I've just realised Halloween kills is a partial remake of this movie

[@bobbythejetsetter]

They also used the town mob idea from part 4, and this is a stretch, but part 5 had the end take place in the Myers house and then a massacre at the end. I guess we could say they took bits and pieces from the sequels.

[@Plumiiee]

I watched Halloween kills and it didn’t appeal to me at all. It was really boring. I like the old version better.

[@FresnoBoy6star]

@AyoCali I'm a true Halloween fan and love Halloween kills

[@bigblue207]

@@FresnoBoy6star same. I actually agree kills was a bad movie but I loved it and I maintain it's not meant to be a movie, but if anything function as "act 2" in a bigger movie comprised of Halloween 2018, Halloween kills and Halloween ends. I actually just watched this Halloween 2 for the first time last night and loved it and feel similar, that to me it really just feels like a natural second half to the first movie. Halloween kills takes Laurie out of the spotlight and brings Michael out to set him up as a major threat for the climax where he and Laurie will probably kill each other, or Allyson will kill him after he kills Laurie. I'm really excited for ends

[@stockwatsonnu8518]

I actually really enjoyed this movie, I never understood the hate it got all this time.

[@Nickr3000]

CuZ iT's NoT aS sUsPeNsEfUl Or GoOd herka derka look at me I'm an ignorant closed-minded Halloween hater. The best part is that the only reason at all anyone can ever give to why it's not as good is because it doesn't have the suspense when it's literally ALL SUSPENSE. It is superior to the first film in every conceivable way.

[@DarkFortressPictures_Official]

I didn’t hate it. I still dig it.

[@libradawg9]

Read the review by Roger Ebert. The body count triples while the suspense factor disappeared.

[@amityislandchum]

What hate? It gets a ton of love as one of the best horror sequels ever.

[@libradawg9]

@@amityislandchum I can tell you if you want but I make long posts. The problem with Halloween II is that in the 3 years it took to come out, two Friday the 13th and hundreds of slashers came out. Right away they knew they had to amp up the body count and the gore. That ruined it, thinking it could just get by on doubling the body count, drowning ppl in scalding water, draining their blood on the floor. Could you really see the stalker Michael, who strangled and just stabbed doing that? That made it boring bc otherwise all they did is have boring ppl having boring conversations in a quiet, boring hospital. Laurie spent most of the movie being boring while Loomis ran around screaming the whole time. It was also the worst Michael and it introduced the brother sister subplot. It was supposed to follow the masterpiece OG Halloween as its sequel, but they knew casual fans wanted gore. It wanted to compete with all those other movies instead of Halloween - it succeeded.

[@akelly4207]

I always like to think that Michael doesn’t understand how doors work. He has never turned a handle. At the hospital doors were opened for him. As a grown man he crashes through them rather than open them so I imagine as a child he just threw himself into them repeatedly. So all this could have been prevented if Judith locked her bedroom door.

[@sunilpermaul7876]

"But he's at the other end of the hall." These are the people currently calling us lazy and don't want to work

[@acelovesdiyschristopher7023]

And addicted to phones. 😂

[@kaytaylor6383]

The sin off for Donald Pleasance’s brilliant acting is what I live for

[@JSeriously]

That’s how we know you’re not from the Midwest. October with the windows open is perfect. 👌🏻 I demand you remove that sin.

[@serban031]

except Halloween never is. By that point, at night, it's not uncommon to start dabbling in freezing temps

[@JSeriously]

@@serban031 i get your point. I have my windows open all through winter at night, which is probably uncommon. But having the windows open during October is very common at least where I live in Michigan. Maybe we’re all weird. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mariahyohannes]

I never heard of that people usually have their heat on by October at least in Chicago

[@lisaheath9040]

Later in the film, after the guy in the fake Michael mask was rammed by the cop car and burned up, some other YOUNG kids reported that their friend Ben Tramer was missing, and that he was wearing a 'dumb mask'. Loomis realizes that it was probably the Ben kid that burned up, and not Michael. HOWEVER - earlier, after Laurie is begging Annie to call Ben Tramer back and tell him that she (Laurie) did not ask him to the dance, Annie says that she can't call him, that he went drinking with Mike Godfrey, and wouldn't be back until late, and that Laurie would have to call him herself, tomorrow. If Ben is the typical teenager out running around drinking and getting high, like Linda & Bob, Annie (and probably Paul, who has no clue how lucky he is), there is no way he is then going to be trick or treating in a costume/mask with little kids AFTER going out drinking with Mike Godfrey (again, another lucky guy). Just my 2 cents.

[@andrewharvey3282]

1:50 Michael takes the knife, but none of the delicious Coke. You'd think he'd be thirsty after the events of the first Halloween.

[@donaldnewton3149]

I can listen to you "Ding" sing the Halloween theme all day. I can't help myself laughing at the "Ding Ding Ding Ding" in Halloween theme.

[@tajcee]

As much as I enjoy Halloween ‘78, Halloween II just does something to me. Something good. It may be the score - it’s darker, electronic and almost gothic. And of course Dick Warlock makes the film; whereas Nick Castle played The Shape like an unsettling maniac, Warlock’s interpretation is demonically deranged. I fucking love this movie.

[@Pinkranger87]

Same

[@JabrenHarris98]

What should be a sin is the lack of hospital staffs and lack of patients in the hospital like wtf? One doctor, 4-5 nurses, two paramedics, one security guard, one patient (Laurie) and a bunch of infants in that big ass hospital?

[@shawnhall9792]

Honestly some hospitals are like this i thought the same til i was in my hospital room and the entire building was like empty Michael Myers type of thing like this one lol

[@mjf2891]

Its supposed to be a clinic which would explain the lack of patients/staff.

[@shawnhall9792]

@@mjf2891 it says hospital tho lol and clinic's are mostly small very small

[@mjf2891]

Shawn Hall the script refers to it as “Haddonfield Clinic.” But yeah, way too big to be one

[@kobe1565]

He talked about the lack of people the entire video...

[@jarettjohnston8329]

Nothing can be cliche in this movie Cinemasins. Modern horror and the slasher genre were still in their respective infancies at the time of this movie's release and for something to be cliche it would've had to be done several times prior. Which it couldn't have been. I'll be waiting for my offer for a position with your company.

[@rickyplott9931]

You’re getting a ding ding ding ding ding ding ding stays in my head rent free!😂

[@dannyhtheretrogamingmaster9548]

The alternative ending was that paramedic Jimmy @17:18 did not actually die from his injuries with Laurie emotionally saying "We made it..." twice before they are driven away. I think that should have been the actual ending as it was far more canon.

[@sadusattack2628]

When Michael stabs the nurse in the back with a scalpel and lifts her up, her shoes fall off! Classic scene!!

[@ArtofLunatik]

I love how halloween kills has the same issue of having laurie in a hospital bed throughout the movie

[@amityislandchum]

@Jax Teller Just because it was done intentionally doesn't make it a good choice. Laurie stuck in a hospital bed is exactly what fans hate about this movie.

[@sarahprince2412]

It’s because this remake series parallels the original movies. Look at the remake from 2018. It’s basically the same plot as the original except they flipped it to where Laurie was the one who copied Michael’s moves and they decided to say she’s NOT related to Michael which I think is stupid. It makes sense to make them related since he kept going after her. Anyways, that’s basically what it is and this sequel to the 2018 version is basically the same plot as the second Halloween movie. What they should have done was completely revamp the remakes to where they could tie in her plot(should have still made her related to Michael) but not rehash the original storyline. They should have been original. So in other words, these are just remakes of the originals with the same storyline but modern. It did annoy me because I wanted to see something fresh and not a remake of the original since that was what the 2018 version was toted as. I might as well have not wasted money and just stuck to watching the original since that’s pretty much what I watched with the 2018 remake.

[@JoRN1222]

As a nurse, I've never seen a hospital with so few patients 😅

[@patlawlor3114]

Being Irish I'm happy the commentator knows how to pronounce Samhain correctly

[@JervisGermane]

2:02 She inadvertently helped him by providing the knife. Michael spares several characters that help him.

[@TheJim42069]

This was literally my favorite Halloween movie ever!

[@parkerrabideau8792]

Illinois can still be pretty warm into November, even northern Illinois. Several Halloween nights were warm enough to wear shorts

[@JustforKikX]

H2 is often viewed with mixed feelings. It introduced the brother-sister lore, gave Michael a backstory and introduced gore. As a sit back and enjoy it kind of movie it's great; Carpenter isn't huge on this one (which is what lead to SotW). Still miles better than 5/6.

[@ajaejones2423]

I love Halloween h20 and Ressurection, also liked the Curse of Michael Myers and 4 and 5, I guess i just love Myers lol.

[@JustforKikX]

@@ajaejones2423 Oh I love them all too, but many of them are poorly made. Fanboyism doesn't preclude quality.

[@ConAir94]

Also a great pair of t•ts from the nurse

[@shawnhall9792]

@@ajaejones2423 i never for the life of me can see how anyone liked resurrection lol or the other one's

[@ajaejones2423]

@Terence Johunkin Busta was a thug in that movie against Myers, lol I grew up on Busta so it was cool to me.

[@talesbythecampfire4965]

Sooooooooooo glad you did this one. My favorite Halloween out of all of them. Happy Halloween Cinema Sins 🎃

[@stockwatsonnu8518]

1:24 that is one of the best edits I’ve ever seen on this channel

[@deeskillz2000]

'Wait. Whats THIS??? Her name is Karen too???" Hold up, they've been around since the 70s???? 😯

[@CrunchyBabys]

October in the Midwest is the best time to have your windows open

[@jamesanthonygreen8233]

That was another really enjoyable Cinemasins video. However, I would honestly take a few sins off for the nice opening with the kickass synthesized Halloween theme.

[@vesuvio3364]

Wait a second, at 17:17 Jimmy, the EMT, did not die in the film; he simply passed out. I saw a TV adaptation in the 1980s, and in the final scene, he was with Laurie in the ambulance, and she said, with tears in her eyes, "we made it, we made it."

[@babydevyl]

Where can I watch it?

[@vesuvio3364]

@@babydevyl In the 1980s, WPIX channel 11 aired it on The Eight O'clock Movie. I recorded on VHS, but I've since lost those tapes. I wish I had it so I could load up that scene.

[@johnfigueroa2609]

The officer's line reading when he says "One of them was Annie" always makes me laugh too. But if you want an even more ridiculously over the top take of that scene, check out the TV Version. Its hilarious

[@MrRagingAntibody]

as a midwestern resident, i can attest we do in fact still keep our windows open through october. its a nice breeze

[@brose2323]

That and Illinois could have warm spells right up to the end of October. Haddonfield is a fictional but I Imagine it being a Chicago burb or maybe by Peru.

[@TinyRiver97]

I like how most of the sins at the hospital are basically "This hospital needs to have more people in it" 😆

[@gamleskalle1]

Scarier with few, kind of the point.

[@stevester9148]

*Security guard at my local hospital:* ''You have to wait behind these 719,236 patients Sir, or just go to that hospital from Halloween II''

[@nicholash.7656]

It's been too hot in Illinois this October so far; it's been like 70's, and now it's finally hitting 60's. Fall is the best season, tell summer to quit intruding!

[@georgemetcalf8763]

I suppose it could be that warm back then depending on where in IL the city is. But yeah, autumn weather is taking its sweet time.

[@glennwelsh9784]

"Discount Dana Car...HOLY S#@T!" 🤣

[@fingerguns2484]

I've always asked myself and wondered why Ben Tramer was dressed as "the shape" ... Like why. What.. literally makes no sense why that costume would be available.

[@SpencerDolan]

Nothing better than a spliff and some cinemaSins.

[@heavenlywells3818]

❤

[@FilmReydar]

John Carpenter himself doesn’t like this one too much Im glad we are on the same page

[@CandieP]

He wanted Michael to not have a motive to kill which is far more scarier. They shouldn’t have allowed that brother sister trope.

[@multitudeofidols]

I remember a quote from Carpenter where he said that when he sat down to write this film, he realised there was no more story to tell. It definitely feels like that when watching it.

[@John231984]

@@multitudeofidols Correct. He wanted the Anthology (Halloween 3 type films) That were indvidual films. WHy he tried to kill Micheal off for good.. He said he had to get really drunk to even write this.

[@domingosjunior6805]

I like,much better than 2018

[@travzimmerman1340]

I like how everyone complains about H2. As if the sibling connection, in a damn movie, really impacts your life. Idiots.

[@ericsmith1508]

Another sin for the bloody SAMHAIN scene is that it does not now and has at no time in the history of "Ever" meant "The Lord of the Dead". It means "Summer's End", or, ya know, AUTUMN! *ding*

[@benjaminosterloh3605]

I had always assumed the news broadcasts were meant to establish the timeline. The broadcast in the one person’s house was the same one from the hospital

[@VisualHighlights.]

"But I did not shoot the deputyyyyyy" 😂😂

[@thedeepfriar745]

You wanna know what is the biggest issue with Laurie and Michael being related is? It completely neuters their frightening villain. Giving a monster like the shape a motive, destroys what makes the shape so god damned frightening. What made him scary was that he was this blank and expressionless face who honestly feels nothing from killing at all.

[@VorpalDerringer]

Yep!

[@KuraiStone]

THANK YOU SO MUCH for correcting that egregious mispronunciation of Samhain! easily my favorite part of this video

[@Design909.]

“They took the well-written and tough as nails heroin from the first film, and stuck her in a bad wig and a hospital bed for the majority of the second film.” Oh Jeremy, wait til you see Halloween Kills🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@libradawg9]

I'm begging him.

[@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets]

"Tough as nails heroin." Yeah... that's not how I would describe first movie Laurie. More like a damsel in distress that had a couple opportunities to put up some resistance. The first time she was anything more hardened than that was in H2O.

[@guzma_7246]

I would love to see them do one of the oldest slasher movies "black christmas"

[@TenzaZangetsu13]

I'm about to start watching but I want to go on record right now and say that if there isn't a sin removal for the incredible sound design in the last scene with the oxygen tanks turning on then there will be many a hurt feeling EDIT: Feelings are hurt

[@AceMoonshot]

Rub some spit on it. Walk it off.

[@TheFlock83]

Take a salt tablet

[@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494]

@@TheFlock83 That's for cramps and excess sweating, dummy. EVERYONE knows the proper treatment for hurt feelings is a couple bottles of cheap wine - but make sure you reach unconsciousness before the need to sob along to Waylon Jennings hits you. Then the feels come back and that s**t starts ALL over again :-/

[@markmac2206]

ask Loomis for a shot of thorazine, that'll help those hurt feelings.

[@IncPoint]

Halloween 3 is a gem Cinemasins. Dont fk that film up

[@Slimblue]

This is a great sequel and I often watch this every Halloween

[@briantalmage8515]

Lol that's the equivalent to saying it works 50 percent of the time all the time

[@Slimblue]

@@briantalmage8515 This is a personal opinion not a fact. I like this movie alot and some don't, that's how part the world works

[@briantalmage8515]

@@Slimblue calm down dude I don't care. I was laughing at the Grammer and syntax of what you said.

[@Slimblue]

@@briantalmage8515 oh yeah my grammar is terrible I admit 🤣 it's cool

[@reidtyndall4953]

He ought to remove a sin for setting up how Loomis got the lighter that he would later use to blow Myers up. It’s a blink and you’ll miss moment.

[@thetowerstillstands]

"Three is the number thou shalt count and the number thou shalt count shall be three..." 😆

[@ascensionindustries9631]

35 in the morning? This movie made me think that this was longest Halloween night ever. Trick or Treating past 11? Hell yeah! 🤘

[@fluffymcstuffins0126]

Sam loomis: the only man who doesn’t smoke on screen but always has a lighter

[@thomasbarrientos6234]

Sam Loomis is the name of the John Gavin character in the movie PSYCHO.

[@AustinCDavis]

What’s funny is that he does fire 7 shots in this movie (which is supposed to be a recap of the original), but he fires 6 in the original, and he fires 5 in the 20th Anniversary soundtrack. Continuity for the win!

[@jazzy.zozo.]

Me and my mom watched this and when the kid got hit by the car we could not stop laughing. I don't know why they just blew past that😭

[@ComicWriter-ml3qt]

Don’t remember much from the movie but that ending will always be my favorite “death” for Michael

[@CBrown]

We've been marathoning the Halloween series recently and honestly I'm surprised this series survived as long as it did. I thought Star Wars was kind of bad, given how many films there are compared to how many good ones exist but holy s****! Those prequels have nothing on Halloween 3-6. I really think the original was the only GOOD one. Although I like H20 it doesn't make a lot of sense either. Thank god they rebooted it for the 3rd time. Keep the Sins videos on these coming!

[@VorpalDerringer]

I find it very difficult to believe Laurie Strode had 20 years of living in fear and when Michael comes back...she has a snub revolver.. which already was proven to not kill Michael in the first two movies. Not a shotgun, not a big bore, not anything bigger...

[@CBrown]

@@VorpalDerringer Eh. I think someone saw what they did with Sarah Connor and said "yeah let's just do that with Laurie". Which was dumb. I'm sorry but she never came off to me as some strong heroine, just a girl who survived. If you want be to believe it's because of the PTSD then I counter with high doubt she'd have stayed anywhere near that town, and raised a family, if she thought the whole time Michael would one day come back. Makes no sense. But whatever, it's a movie. At least this reboot is entertaining.

[@jeanshortswag]

Love how none of the production errors are sinned. Figured the very obvious set wall sticking out during the fire at the end would be worth like 10. Lol

[@rexysgamingbro]

It’s still stupid that this one was taken out of the canon but what can you do

[@rmannayr2129]

MYERS IS BACK AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

[@AlexSeverinski]

18:51 Hey, I'm watching Halloween 3 right now, and I'll have you know that it isn't as bad as your snark is making it seem.

[@stevenmacaulay8807]

Here here ! Its honestly fantastic and I wish they had stuck with the anthology style for future halloween films. I love 1-4 but I would have been fine if Micheal stayed vanished or died... I mean c'mon his downfall in 2 was done so well and was sequel proof.

[@stevenmacaulay8807]

@Terence Johunkin can you explain your opinion why? I mean aside from the usual " theres no Micheal Myers in it" that people use as the go to... I'd also like to point out if you spend a cent on any of the conjuring verse that may hurt your point/s.

[@randygiles845]

Halloween 3 is the second best Halloween movie. I only rewatch the first and third, I find the rest in the series kinda crappy.

[@theremedy9171]

I enjoy watching Halloween 3

[@1rmfrk]

That last ding for the transgressions of its sequel Just delightful

[@dirkdigger69]

For the life of me I can’t figure out why the new Halloween movies didn’t pick up after this movie rather than the first. They could’ve done some retconning showing Michael’s body being recovered in the flames and taken back to smiths grove then pick up exactly where Halloween 2018 did. It would’ve helped better serve the legend of Michael Myers the boogey man especially since the original 1 and 2 take place on the same night.

[@chrisdell5679]

I think because of the brother-sister thing. But they could have included this movie and retconned that plot device. At least, it would have been worth a try.

[@jenniferwilliams5478]

They changed the whole ended to make it look like he got captured which he didnt

[@jenniferwilliams5478]

Then they recapped what happened at the end of the first movie for the beg of the 2nd movie, but micheal fell from the back of the house in H1 in H2 they show it from the front. Why didn't they use the footage from the 1st movie then?

[@Leonard1977ful]

CinemaSins shouldn't have mentioned a sin for Michael Myers downing the naked nurse in scalding water without burning his bare hand.

[@hotweeta]

I still love this movie after all these years!

[@whiplash9548]

I actually really like this movie and it makes for a spectacular double feature with the first movie. Underrated in my opinion.

[@Highice007]

It was also the last Halloween film that John Carpender had a hand in writing for a long time.

[@Jarhead1313]

This may have a ton of sins but is still my favorite of the Halloween movies...

[@bashcashd1]

I laugh every time I hear 👂🏾” I SHOT HIM 6x”

[@dingusispingus5987]

October in Illinois is pretty warm this year. But yeah in past years, it got relatively cold.

[@AceMoonshot]

The two sins about 1978 hospitals made me flashback to '72. I was a kid that just had a bike wreck and had to get stitches in my face. The doctor that stitched me up reeked of booze, and was smoking a cigar, while he sewed me up. So I was getting plenty of smoke and vapor blown in my face. Few weeks later my dad had to cut out the rocks the doc sewed up in me. smh@ the '70s. Good times. Good times.

[@bigplanner]

Rocks?

[@AceMoonshot]

@@bigplanner Yep. Rocks. The biggest was about the size of a pencil eraser.

[@rmannayr2129]

WELL THAT'S COMPLETELY RANDOM!

[@Kimuraminato]

Is funny these old budget films are way better than any Saw movie 🤣

[@ratherrazzOWO]

Saw 3 is a masterpiece idc

[@WayneStateWarrior4]

So where the floor sweeper working? Or an extra in the film you totally should get that answer for us😂.