Everything Wrong With Alien vs. Predator in 19 Minutes or Less

[@AerialAssault87]

One point: it's been well established throughout the Predator films that the Predators Do not attack the unarmed, pregnant or sick. They look for warriors. Unless you push it, yes, a deadly illness will keep you from being murdered by a Predator. Not defending this film, but that part has been canon since the 80s.

[@mangaanimefan3089]

So, were the drillers considered armed? Is that why they were killed? And if these are supposed to be (burrowing this word from another comment) unblooded Predators, isn't their first kill supposed to be a Xenomorph? Why weren't they forcing the drillers into the sacrificial chamber with the other people so they can be face hugged?

[@dezh6345]

@@mangaanimefan3089 Probably the people handling machinery where considered to be holding weapons, after the first attack, people may have grabbed things to be used as weapons in self defense. They were then considered to have weapons, and were entered into combat.

[@jockeyfield1954]

@@dezh6345 didn't know i could be killed by a predator when i'm just trying to eat spaghetti with a fork

[@jamesbell7185]

Facts!!!!

[@dimitrimxv6402]

@@jockeyfield1954 "Mmm, mom's spaghetti! *[picks up fork]"* Predator: _So, you have chosen. . . death._

[@Helloworld-ss5uv]

“Scientists, Mercenaries and a rich guy “ The unholy Trinity of movie cliches, without a doubt

[@Nothing_to_see807]

“Unholy Trinity” ok gleek

[@Hester_prynne]

@@Nothing_to_see807 you still have time to delete your dumb comment

[@DiegoHernandez-xt2su]

@@Nothing_to_see807 this movie was directed by the guy who directed the resident evil movies and monster hunter movie

[@u.g.3298]

"Atlantis: The Lost Empire" qualifies on this category then.

[@HaulingHurricanes]

The government uses the same unholy formula

[@doyoulikedags3534]

I was actually genuinely bummed out when the "good" predator died.

[@goodputin4324]

Name was Scar

[@-MrFozzy-]

I was actually genuinely bummed out when the ‘good’ predator franchise died.

[@JoakimOtamaa]

@@-MrFozzy- Well it was a pretty good trilogy. The Predator is pure crap and AVP:R too, this first one was kinda okay for a PG-13. I was pretty young when I saw this so might be nostalgia guilty pleasure.

[@Goldenkitten1]

@@JoakimOtamaa It's not amazing but it's not pure nostalgia. Compared to AVP:R this movie is a goddamn masterclass in film making.

[@arkisenn9895]

I was bummed out when a single fucking Xenomorph killed two Predators. That is bullshit!

[@johnoneil9188]

"When the aliens come out of a human they don´t have human traits-" They do, that are regular xenomorphs we are familiar with. In Alien 3 there are some who were spawned from dogs and other animals and those look different.

[@GenericProtagonist118]

It's funny that the Xenomorphs are known to Alien fans for taking on traits of their host but normal moviegoers will actually flat out deny that that's even a thing they can do.

[@johnoneil9188]

@@GenericProtagonist118 I wonder why that is. Maybe because it has been less of a thing in the newer movies? I can´t say, I have not watched those.

[@iwatchkittenvids45]

And the guy that makes cinema sins has seen Promethus so that's just confusion

[@LaughingGun92]

Was looking for this exact comment.

[@DennisShanaberg]

Yea. Was gonna say. That’s like a key feature of the Aliens, SinsGuy...

[@GrandmasterDevo]

I'd have taken one sin off for Lex using xenomorph carapace to protect herself since no one in any of the Alien films ever thought to shield themselves from xeno blood using their own flesh.

[@MikaelGuggenheim]

Nah. It was already like that in the (way way better) comic.

[@MikaelGuggenheim]

This one. Really should read it. It's what AvP really could have been. avp.fandom.com/wiki/Aliens_vs._Predator:_Prey

[@Phoenix2312]

@@MikaelGuggenheim It is also where the movie STOLE almost all its best ideas from... And totally F**Ked them up!

[@RosheenQuynh]

That's honestly the one thing stuck out for me after not having seen this movie in years. That and the tail spear. I loved that detail.

[@mittensfastpaw]

Cept the blood in it should have ate her skin off...

[@penguincommunity6218]

I don’t have a problem with the Predator recognizing that Weyland is about to die and seeing no honor in killing him.

[@Frumpbeard]

It could've been a lot quicker and more subtle though.

[@Sirvantir]

It also happens in Predator 2 with the pregnant cop lady

[@priscillajimenez27]

@@Sirvantir and in the reboot with the naked woman on the floor

[@laokon]

original preda didn't kill the woman that was unarmed, and Dutch even states it...

[@FriezaSucks]

Agreed. They are warriors, they seek honor, not meaningless murder. I wish the movies were written by nerds, and not dorks.

[@jimbothetimbo6790]

Should have added a thousand sins purely because This movie is PG-13

[@maumoviecorner7687]

Monster in Law Full Movie 2005 what movie name

[@conc782]

This is my biggest problem with this movie

[@dragonlp7144]

This was my first AVP movie that I ever watched. The sad Part is that wwas 12 and I found this movie shitty

[@jimbothetimbo6790]

@The Dead Roach Society sure

[@DarthBiomech]

Well, they fixed that in the sequel, so everything's good now, right? _Right?_

[@NiteOfTheWorld]

The Predator in "Predator 2" didn't kill Maria Conchita Alonso's character because she was defenseless and pregnant. So, technically they haven't mercilessly killed EVERY human in the previous Predator films. Also, after Danny Glover kills the Predator, the other Predators reveal themselves and let him go (presumably because he defeated the one he had been chasing).

[@jakeapplegate6642]

the woman in the first predator was also spared because she was unarmed. its always been a thing.

[@MeaCulpa04]

No Sport

[@michaeltruthson6262]

The only Predators with no mercy on anything or anyone are the Blood Berserker species who ironically were genetically spawned from the DNA strain of City Hunter code named Ghost the antagonist in Predator II.

[@BenMaguireLONEWOLF9989]

@@michaeltruthson6262 There are also Bad Bloods, who are basically exiles because they broke a rule of the hunt. At that point, they begin to not care about the rules

[@michaeltruthson6262]

@@BenMaguireLONEWOLF9989 I know a prime example of a Bad Blood was the Pred who came to hunt Batman in revenge for the hunter Bats defeated in the first installment of Batman vs Predator. That Predator slaughtered an entire defenseless family including children and killed two enforcer predators sent to take him down.

[@FFKonoko]

"When the alien bursts out of a human, they don't have human qualities" Um, literally has a human skull visible inside its dome in some version. And the incisors and canine combination is human like, combined with the humanoid limb structure... Which is in contrast to the "Runner" Alien from Alien 3 which was more quadrupedal because of coming from a cow (or dog). Really, the whole "Aliens take some qualities from their host" was an incredibly interesting part of their lore and a reason the arcade game went absolutely wild with winged aliens and scorpion aliens and it is profoundly disappointing that it is comparatively unused in the movies.

[@BenMaguireLONEWOLF9989]

@WILLIAM WEST So... the Arcade game? Because that's literally the story of the Arcade game, in very loose terms

[@BenMaguireLONEWOLF9989]

@WILLIAM WEST I played it to completion, and if you don't wat to spend a lot of money, you can look up full game playthroughs. It's pretty damn good.

[@BenMaguireLONEWOLF9989]

@WILLIAM WEST I don't think so... but I'm not an expert on Alien Lore. The highest leg count on a Xenomorph in the game besides Facehuggers is 4.

[@Revenraynehart]

One of the best examples I think is the alien in Mortal Kombat ending you can see all the different aliens based on the different Mortal Kombat characters

[@jessicaevans7847]

Will really the original Xenomorph is just what happens when a human is infected. What about it's General humanoid shape and bipedal stance?

[@wstine79]

Thanks this movie, Lance Henriksen was able to match Bill Paxton in the "killed by a Terminator, an Alien, and a Predator" record.

[@Gurra88]

Lance was never killed by an alien. He played an android and he was still "alive" despite being torn in two.

[@dca-Letsplay]

Paxton is still the only one to have been killed by all 3, Henriksen was never killed by an Alien, Bishop was torn in half but was arguably never injured being a synthetic, he was actually killed by Riply as she deactivated him

[@SylvanApe]

@@dca-Letsplay "he was actually killed by Riply as she deactivated him" Isn't that a bit like saying the vet killed the dog that was crushed and had its guts spread all over the road by a truck - because he euthanized it?

[@dca-Letsplay]

@@SylvanApe yes but In the case of when Bishop was damaged by the Alien Queen he had no reason to wish to be deactivated, whilst after the EV crash on Fury he was basically damaged to the point he didn’t wish to be repaired

[@-desertpackrat]

Just change killed to dispatched then, the android was effectively dispatched and unusable except as a recording device basically.

[@WilliamJakespeareProps]

good creature effects though

[@evisceon4860]

Oh hello there william jakespeare i’d not expect to see you here

[@brettbaratheon9776]

Yeah, this movie was fun. It wasn’t great by any means, but it started so cool.

[@MarielaQue]

@@brettbaratheon9776 ☑

[@TheHorreK2]

Yeah people can bitch about the movie as they want but the effects were pretty good

[@oogweatheturtle6801]

Are you joe don’t ask who he is

[@troyom]

I thought the whole point of the predators letting the humans get to the pyramid first was to let them get “facehugged” so they have something to fight.

[@mksilver]

You’re absolutely right and cinemasins doesn’t know what he’s talking about. The Yautja constructed the pyramid so anyone entering would trigger the ritual, get trapped and then facehugged. All so the unblooded Yautja could become blooded and ascend into their clan

[@scockery]

@@mksilver Okay, but if ritual sacrifice was part of the culture the Predators fostered then why the floor trigger, instead of a big START THE RITUAL lever? Did the Preds come back and remodel the place after the big nuclear blast in the past? "Maybe we can lure some future humans here when they have tech to find it!"

[@mksilver]

@@scockery yh we humans are dumb and would probably pull a lever without questioning it 😆 but makes more sense that the “activation” be hidden so the prey is unaware whats gonna happen. In the flashback scene from thousands of years ago, we willingly sacrificed ourselves but seems this may not always have been the case. The Yautja seem to use this pyramid every 100 years so easily would have rebuilt it (or we did as their worshippers). Remember the pyramid is like a maze designed to test the Yautja so making all this pressure plates etc is very believable

[@jackfables3470]

@@mksilver Of course, the whole point of letting Humans enter the pyramid first was for them to encounter Facehuggers and breed Xenomorphs. However, it's still an extremely bad idea to use a lever or a pressure plate that can easily and/or unwittingly activated by a Human, instead of a mechanism that can only be activated by a Predator. Don't forget they can't allow the Xenomorphs to take over their proving grounds, since it's far too important to them. First, they need the proving ground for their youngsters, so imagine if they travelled all the way to planet Earth, just to see it's either a warzone or a post-apocalyptic wasteland where the sole remaining species is the Xenomorph (proving oneself in a controlled hunt and being thrown into a war of that scale, without the proper experience, are two drastically things). Second, it seemed to me that they would consider it the ultimate dishonour if they allowed their prey to gain such power (they would rather erase all traces of their passage and the civilisations they have influenced than allow the world to realise they have failed to contain the Xenomorphs). Besides, they seem far more interested in the hunt than in invading other planets (at least, that's just my two cents), so there really is no point in becoming too 'noticeable' to the Humans (and, yes, that includes making sure to keep the Xenomorph population properly contained).

[@labhraimgaeilgeconasfut81]

@@mksilver Then they become Young Blood's if I remember correctly .

[@reavern]

The Predators weren’t “dicking around in space” after cutting the tunnel to the pyramid with their space laser. The movie revealed later that the Predators deliberately lured humans to the Antarctica pyramid so they’d get Facehuggered and produce the xenomorphs that the Predators wanted to hunt, to earn their prized Plasmacasters and the right to bear the special mark that indicated they had killed a xenomorph. The Predators weren’t going to sacrifice their own people to the Aliens. And they weren’t there simply to retrieve the Plasmacasters. It was part of their ritual to EARN their prizes. That’s also the reason there were 3 Predators and 3 guns. The Predators lasered the tunnel through the ice to HELP the humans reach the pyramid faster, because it would’ve taken the humans weeks or months to reach the pyramid, IF they could’ve accomplished it at all. The Predators sat back and WAITED for the humans to reach the pyramid, trip the switch that defrost the Alien Queen, produce eggs, and get ambushed by the Facehuggers, so there’d be xenomorphs for the Predators to hunt. If anything deserves a cinema sin, it’s that the Predators’ elaborate setup plan working so perfectly it could only happen in a movie.

[@karls8103]

im more curious how a warrior species develops space tech instead of just hunting themselves or there native animals to extinction

[@reavern]

@@karls8103 The same question can be applied to Klingons and the Hirogen from Star Trek.

[@brinstarmedia1411]

Franchises that are rated R that become PG-13 are always recipes for disaster

[@TheKingOfAllHorror]

Live Free or Die Hard was still pretty good.

[@LinkMarioSamus]

And then AvPR, Covenant, and The Predator turned out SO well...

[@talandelana6873]

If we are talking about pg13 horror, plenty of great choices. Drag me to Hell and A Quiet Place.

[@jeambeam3173]

@@talandelana6873 That's not what were talking about tho were talking about movies that were rated R that sequels got turned into pg13 movies

[@LinkMarioSamus]

@@talandelana6873 Or on a similar note, Jaws and Poltergeist.

[@deletekeys]

The original xenomorph actually had a skull that resembled a humans skull from the front, eye sockets and a nasal bone. It was barely visible through it's dark glossy face plate. I think it was the best design for xenomorphs making them so ominous and horrifying while still making them very alien to the viewers overall.

[@joedollarbiden9823]

I am sorry to say this but you are just blind, you are making up things

[@deletekeys]

@@joedollarbiden9823 You know how to post a comment on KZbin but you don’t know how to look up the first Alien’s design or scenes from the movie? Why?

[@joedollarbiden9823]

@@deletekeys just trolling around mate

[@lizardman2474]

Sadly the Predator not killing him due to his sickness is one of the few things that makes sense (Due to Yautja culture)

[@TheMuffin18]

Yeah I think the Predator code is followed pretty well in the movie. The guys up top are the mercenaries Weyland hired, not drillers. They were armed and considered a threat.

[@dustinjenney9736]

He wasn't worthy prey until he used the improvised flamethrower

[@-desertpackrat]

Also in the first movie Arnold tried to fight it and it was about to kill him, looked at his skull and noticed it had a flaw he didn't like or something wrong with him (still not sure what exactly), and tossed him on the ground like he wasn't worth killing, and then only fought him again when Arnold got up and attacked again, same as Weyland. Typically they may kill anyone they see with a weapon, but sometimes they just decide to spare someone out of pity in a sportsman sense, like it's not manly to hunt a deer that's already limping and unable to run, these are an entire species of hunters with deep honor systems. The one in the second movie killed every person in the subway car because everyone happened to be armed, even little old ladies, but didn't kill the female cop who was pregnant. But almost did kill a child at the cemetary who was holding a toy gun because it couldn't tell if it was real or not, I think it only changed its mind when the boy seemed to notice it in the tree (even though it wsa cloaked) and offered it candy, and it decided he wasn't a threat at the time.

[@pizdamatii5001]

@@-desertpackrat "these are an entire species of hunters with deep honor systems" honor my ass. they are a bunch of cowards.

[@EScoglio]

@@-desertpackrat Yeah, you got a lot wrong there. The predator in the first movie saw Arnold as the best prey and took off his mask and shoulder gun to fight him hand to hand to make it an even fight. In the second movie, he didn't kill the kid because he scanned the toy gun and realized it wasn't real and let him live.

[@garrybartlett6853]

Now now Jeremy... you know that the Alien takes on the qualities of the host... as established in Alien3...

[@MrPrajitura]

probably missed that because of all those ads...

[@wwld9823]

yeah everyone knows aliens take on the features of the host, and aliens LOOKED humanoid when coming from humans, what the hell is he saying "they don't look human" when they are intentionally humanoid

[@tarfap.kpamber9732]

When you run such a channel, you have to ramble or lie at some point.

[@szabok1999]

@@wwld9823 Well, I only saw the first two alien movies, and I can confidently say that "human-like" wasn't a thing that came to my mind when I saw the aliens. This idea obviously came later.

[@garrybartlett6853]

@@tarfap.kpamber9732 pretty sure they founded the channel on that ethos... lie to bump the sin count... hahaha... tbh, I know they play it up, cut the clips to fit etc... but its a guilty pleasure...

[@SunlightGwyn]

3:07 That actually makes alot of sense. They asked other top instructors and when Weyland explained the situation they said no. That's why they drug her out there without explaining so she would have a harder time saying no like they did. And they were right since she did eventually agree to train them. This was an example of GOOD writing.

[@conc782]

Xenomorphs 100% take on attributes of the host. The Xeno in Alien 3 took on dog characters and it was different than the human based Xenos in Alien and Aliens.

[@dvader518]

Or ox characteristics.

[@JoakimOtamaa]

@@dvader518 Acted more like a dog tho. The production hell history of that movie is pretty damn interesting so it's a mess. Which cut do you prefer? Silly looking puppet in front of a blue screen doesn't match to the actors in suits and animatronics.

[@mchawk315]

Came in to say this.

[@pdw8635]

I can not BELIEVE that TWO “better come take a look at this... cliche’ “ cliche were missed!

[@matohibiki]

Nobody told Jeremy to come take a look at them, clearly.

[@christopherballard1348]

“The Aliens don’t have human qualities when they come out of humans” Uh, yeah they do. You’ve just only seen aliens with the human qualities until because get this: you’ve only seen them come out of humans...

[@spring983]

Ahhh

[@labhraimgaeilgeconasfut81]

True .

[@labhraimgaeilgeconasfut81]

Sometimes cinimasins is a idiot .

[@dragonborn2718]

And a dog, once

[@Noctazar]

@@dragonborn2718 And this one was built more like a dog.

[@TheSilentOne50]

I can't believe they didn't do the Batman and Robin suit-up scene when the predators were suiting up.

[@SoldierOfFate]

Now if Joel Schumacher was the director...

[@DavidCommini]

Predator Nipples

[@Dargonhuman]

@@DavidCommini And a super tight, uncomfortably long shot of a Predator butt.

[@thespacecowboy71]

@@DavidCommini sir what

[@chuckhoyle1211]

Or an Archer suit up scene from his raaaaaaaaaaaaaampaaaaaaaaaaaaage!

[@candycorn157]

I am now waiting for one of these days to where he just says “everything” then ends the video

[@CapitalistCactus]

Lol

[@hbdragon88]

But ad revenue...lol. And I know some accuse CS of padding the videos runtime but...like for example the three-minute Hunger Games one is just painful to watch because it's so rushed. Similar # of sins but in half the time.

[@candycorn157]

@hbdragon88 my guy it’s a joke

[@hbdragon88]

@@candycorn157 I know, I know. Maybe if YT shorts takes off, it would be a fun video for CS to make.

[@EvilNecroid]

this movie would of been a good time to do it

[@RejectKing]

The Alien taking on properties of it's host has always been part of the lore. You just mostly see ones from human hosts. I think the one in 3 came from a dog.

[@yesyesyesyes1600]

Right. In the 90s I read a book where they breeded xenomorphs on an asteroid with sheep an cows to make them less aggressive. It didn't really work out. The asteroid was lost in you guessed it giantic nuclear explosion ...

[@orinanime]

Dog in the theatrical cut, cow or bull in the extended cut. But yeah, that's why it was a quadruped in that one.

[@mrblack5145]

Thank you for saying this, so I don't have to.

[@TheMuffin18]

Bingo. Aliens born from humans even have an elongated form of a human skull inside their heads.

[@mrblack5145]

@@TheMuffin18 well, in-universe, there's a but of a discretion between the xenomorphs birthed from humans. In the first film, the xeno had a very smooth head and clearly defined human structures. In the second and 4th film, their heads were more bony and structured, while their limbs were more spiders and less human.

[@hhgff778]

Scientists in Alien movies be like: "oh look unknown substance, let's touch it with bare hands!"

[@-desertpackrat]

I know, who are they, Gordon Ramsey? "Let me just run my hands through this 20 year old grease pan to prove a point..." ugh lol it's so bad.

[@scottl9660]

To be fair, pHds are kinda fast and loose with their own PPE. Rules are for thee, not for me is a common theme.

[@CrabShakMan]

And taste it got to taste it lol

[@wattsnottaken1]

Is it really an Alien movie without that ? Lol 😆

[@DerpDevilDD]

Make you sure get your face as close as possible; really get in there.

[@ViewerOnline101]

The Xenomorphs have always taken on qualities and attributes of their host, this is why the one in Alien 3, which came out of a dog looked different, and if you look at the comics, there are lots of other Xenomorphs that look different from having different species hosts. And the length of time an alien takes to incubate and hatch depends on what kind it is. The most common ones, the drones/workers, hatch fairly quickly. The soldiers (like the one from the first movie) take longer. The queens take the longest to hatch, The Predalien at the end is a queen, hence why it lays eggs in the sequel, it just looks very different from the standard queen and isn't stuck in place with a huge birthing canal.

[@JoakimOtamaa]

Of course The Predalien Queen looks different, it spawned from the Predator with Yautja qualities, makes sense that the queens look different and have different stats and all (like in viddy gams).

[@Scar-Predator]

Actually the xeno in the first Alien movie was a Drone. the ones in AVP were also Drones while in Aliens and AVP:R the xeno's are Warriors.

[@hunterclark5345]

What features do xenonorphs get from humans?

[@AngelusMortis6000]

​@@hunterclark5345 Xenomorphs spawn fram humans have many parts of their anatomy, if you look closely. Some examples: They have a visible humanoid rib cage, humanoid feet and when they don't run fast or climb, they can stand upright. Their teeth are also close to human teeth and their hands also have thumbs.

[@afireinsidebrad]

@@Scar-Predator i thought the ones in AVP1 were Scouts/Lurkers? Theyre smaller and more slender with more of a hunched stature

[@rxlqh338]

"I feel bad for Alexa, that was the only predetor she ever loved" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@droth1031]

You could walk into a comic book shop, close your eyes, spin around three times, and point... you can literally find a MULTITUDE of Alien, Predator, and Alien versus Predator comics, ANY ONE of which could be the basis for one of these movies...

[@keithwoodcrest]

But like Birdman always says, Jeremy doesn't think you need to read any books that the movies are based on. He thinks they're irrelevant

[@xhul]

@@keithwoodcrest I think the OP meant that the filmmakers could've done so and come up with a better movie.

[@scockery]

Hollywood hacks like to do their own spin, so they can get more credit. It's why GI JOE RISE OF COBRA and the Transformer movies were so dumb and messy. They had gobs of easily adaptable material literally story boarded for them but that's other more talented, people's work.

[@chuckhoyle1211]

This is just another in the long line of countless times Hollywood has taken great source material and butchered it into something unrecognizable and stupid because they either never were familiar with the source material to begin with or never understood the source material. I have a strong suspicion that most Hollywood directors and/or writers never bother to familiarize themselves with source material beyond the superficial level.

[@paytonkennard3178]

There’s actually a bit of AVP comic dna in this movie. Alexa gets the acid scar symbol and hunts with the predator just like machinko in the comics

[@josephgorbacz4838]

I am about to watch this for the first time. If Cinema Sins doesn't sin the plot hole of the fact that the Predator only hunts in the warmest places during the warmest parts of the year so he would never be in the artic... then I'm sinning Cinema Sins. Carry on.

[@BassLineProductionsI]

Damn I can't believe I've never had that thought you're completely right that was established.. and the predators are still only in fishnet here... I loved this series of both sides since I was quite young and never made that connection

[@Snake4985]

The best thing I can say about this is "At least it's not Alien vs. Predator: Requiem"

[@shiroalcrei9288]

Thank you

[@mittensfastpaw]

I never saw that... I wrote off Alien and Predator as franchises at this point.

[@Omnitrix8]

Lord Jesus! I have no words for that movie!

[@musiccreationn]

Hated that movie, especially in the maternity ward with aliens coming out of pregnant woman’s stomachs that was too disturbing.

[@commandershepard5450]

Haha at least that decided to be rated R

[@jela-nimccarthy6981]

As a former architecture student taking "slump" photos of sleeping classmates to show them later was a major highlight of our college experience.

[@Madsdross]

uh....wtf that's fucking creepy dude😐

[@belladonna869]

It's not a road trip with classmates or campers without taking sleeping pictures

[@nommadd5758]

You should get your money back!

[@SergioArellano-yd7ik]

Not as creepy as drawing a penis on a sleeping persons face

[@omarreyes7626]

12:06 It's consistant with the lore, they don't kill weak prey as there's not sport or honor in that kill, when weyland attacked him he prove he was a worthy kill.

[@chaosstatus]

I basically watch Cinemasins instead of spending three times as much time watching actual movies and forming my own opinions about them

[@thermonuclearcollider4418]

...and that's what's wrong with modern day audiences at large: they trust comedy web-shows that have to find faults in movies no-matter-what. Even movies like "Apocalypse Now" or "Taxi Driver" don't hold up to that level of scrutiny.

[@chaosstatus]

@@thermonuclearcollider4418 I still watch movies lol, I just like to watch these videos for movies that I may not want to watch. The cynicism is funny

[@keithwoodcrest]

That was me until I found Birdman and he ruined cinemasins for me lol. Now I watch his videos instead and get frustrated by these. 😂😭

[@Philosophical24]

Kinda sad. Relatable.

[@dark_neverland]

Same. And also enjoying the sins of movies I will never ever watch, like this one

[@unorthodox8552]

Wait until he finds out about the giant agressive species of squid called a humboldt squid....

[@Shadowpack95]

on a personal level, fuck those shits

[@luckyspurs]

Ironically a Humboldt Squid looks rather more like a face hugger than I feel comfortable with.

[@Shadowpack95]

@@luckyspurs im well aware of what thye look like, i also know how their bite feels like

[@dalebakaas4237]

@@Shadowpack95 you have encountered one?

[@KagekiriToriko]

Understanding Yautja lore makes understanding why one ignored Weylon a lot easier. Essentially they're trophy hunters and only go after those that are physically capable of fighting back. So no women, children, elderly or sickly (unless they're actually capable of fighting back or if they're aggressors)

[@rimurutempest4945]

I love how almost every video I’ve seen of AVP always ship Lex and the Predator

[@alilweeb7684]

@@pohonpanjang2701 stop being weird

[@pohonpanjang2701]

@@alilweeb7684 ok sorry

[@jzpowell2108]

Can’t wait for the Sins on AVP: Requiem.... gonna have a field day with it I’m sure

[@sarahgabriella84]

Darkness: 1 million sins.

[@CoffeeMatt10]

He will have to turn the brightness all the way up to even see what he’s sinning

[@PersephoneDaSilva]

"It's made by Paul W. S. Anderson." Me: "That explains a lot."

[@JuICyBLiinGeR]

I just saw the Fast 9 trailer.. honestly you better reinforce your sin counter with the same plot armour that Vin Diesel has and you should be alright until F10.

[@WSFMontana]

They definitely making f 10

[@-desertpackrat]

Damn it, no, I saw part of that trailer last night and this morning I thought it was just a bad dream but now you've confirmed it was real :(

[@bredford2212]

The Alien in Alien 3 has dog like qualities, it walks on 4 legs, is smaller and I believe they actually used a dog in costume to film some of the scenes. So the alien predator hybrid makes sense. Minus one sin ?

[@jakushkadarkstalker6278]

In the directors cut the xenomorph actually came out of a cow, not a dog, and the toy for it even had horns.

[@sarahgabriella84]

@@jakushkadarkstalker6278 I found it so weird that they changed it to a dog. Chestbursters arent small, it wouldnt even fit into a dog unless the Facehugger can literally choose the size of the Chestburster it implants.

[@jakushkadarkstalker6278]

@@sarahgabriella84 The facehugger doesn't choose anything. I remember reading that the embryo implanted into a host absorbs characteristics of the host through incubation which is why they can appear very different in size and stature. A chestburster from a human isn't really that big, smaller than a regular house cat, then molts into an adolescant form which is the one we see in the first movie. The process is very short actually as the first alien wiped out the crew of the Nostromo in less that a day. The alien in the third movie, birthed by a quadruped, doesn't have the ability to stand up on two legs easily. Then the predalien has predator mandibles and dreadlocks as well as a more predator shaped head. Generally those are much larger as well, though not as large as a praetorian.

[@TheHumanRanger]

@@jakushkadarkstalker6278 Correct

[@PrinceIsot]

@@sarahgabriella84 in short, parasites form to their host

[@dropboxmoabit384]

I really loved how you took this one apart. However, I just rewatched it and I have to admit that I kinda like it. It's pretty solid action-fun-entertainment. Just like Predators. Only the first 40 minutes are really stupid and slow but when it gets going it's pretty decent - stupid but enjoyable.

[@elisabetrouge]

I can't help laughing at you shipping Alexa with the Predator 😂

[@elisabetrouge]

@@sage4365 Why am I not surprised? And why did I spend time wondering how they could make out? Like the biological mechanics? Human mouths and Predator mouths are quite different.

[@rugeramerican308]

Its hot

[@yerghaizverot6441]

"Alexa and The Predator" sounds like a really bad drama-com that you'd see as a Lifetime Original miniseries.

[@magic-556m]

@@rugeramerican308 hold up

[@reallynow692]

There is SO much wrong with this flick. How can you put together two iconic sci-fi creatures and make such a ho-hum movie is a feat in itself. This is a lesson on how not to make a film.

[@cameronclophus7998]

Still better than AVP:R

[@-desertpackrat]

@@cameronclophus7998 lmao that's what I said, that was real trash..

[@jeambeam3173]

@@cameronclophus7998 thats debatable. If it wasn't for the shitty lighting it would rly come out on top for being slightly less shitty

[@blatherskite3009]

"How can you put together two iconic sci-fi creatures and make such a ho-hum movie"? By aiming for a PG-13 rating. It was inevitable that the crossover of two R-rated creature-features would be compromised weaksauce as soon as it was saddled with that PG-13 rating. And the "unrated" cut doesn't fix much, either, because the whole film was shot with that PG-13 rating in mind so there was virtually no "harder" material to actually put back in.

[@jimb.7523]

This movie was so bad, I couldn't even finish watching it. I stopped after an hour.

[@random-potato9803]

16:05 The Italian translates to : I can't wait to get out of this pyramid with you, because I crapped myself

[@riccardosartori3822]

Not really, the first part is right, but the last part says "mi sto cagando addosso" which literally translates to "I'm shitting myself" but yeah, it's like asking for the translation of "what time is it?" And getting "What hour and minute of the day is it?" Not really a straight translation

[@Pokarookris]

I'm adding 4 sins per commercial break we all had to go through. And 20 sins for accurately blaming Captain Janeway for what she did in the Delta Quadrant

[@robingrogan7937]

put ads on then make you pay to get them off....that is clearly not right.

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

I got no ads at all.

[@bebdergame]

Clan Leader attacks with whipping dreadlocks!

[@ethovoid]

CLAN LEADER ATTACKS WITH WHIPPING DREADLOCKS!

[@edit.5308]

ALL HAIL THE CLAN HEADER, MAY HIS WHIPPING DREADLOCKS BE MERCIFUL

[@vidyabatter]

ALL HAIL BEBDER

[@medicorn6294]

Based

[@joshp3994]

I never considered that Beaker from The Muppets was so-named because of scientists use of beakers. Now that I have, I'll be thinking about it all day. Thanks Cinema Sins.

[@bigtrebuchet3517]

CLAN LEADER ATTACKS WITH WHIPPING DREADLOCKS

[@Corvus-fw2hr]

When I saw this in the theater we started singing “When a Man Loves a Woman” during the scenes with Alexa and the Predator. Thanks for letting me remember that.

[@zachmichaels9595]

That sounds annoying and obnoxious af

[@pohonpanjang2701]

It sounds like you ship Lex with Scar V:::: do you tho??? V::::

[@hirogochitomayto7018]

Corvus5200 What a bunch of tards

[@PhantomFool765]

THE CLAN LEADER ATTACKS WITH HIS WHIPPING DREADLOCKA

[@cstephen98]

Weirdest thing about this movie is that there's already an excellent, 'Aliens vs Predator' story from Dark Horse comics that they could have simply adapted to the silver screen instead of this mess they created instead.

[@IndigoNeutrino]

They clearly took elements of it as inspiration, but I completely agree straight up adapting it would have made a much better movie.

[@LVMILL1156]

Yep, but that makes too much since.

[@mittensfastpaw]

Always some asshole who wants to make a thing “theirs” so they “leave their mark” but none of us want that. We do not give two shits about “your” version! What we want is the product already made adapted for screen not friggin rewritten.

[@LVMILL1156]

@@mittensfastpaw How did that ever become an acceptable thing?🤔

[@eveakane6563]

Because the director is Paul WS “Director Nepotism and Married to Mary Sue” Anderson.

[@mandiraexotic]

Hahah the pyramid schemes “you want me to sue Amway?” killed me. 😂😂😂😂

[@joshzero5119]

Piper Maru? That's an X-Files reference right there. A two-fer, even.

[@SupermarketSweep777]

Yeah. One of the few/quite possibly the only clever moment in this movie.

[@tristanflynn4014]

The movie even stars Millenium guy.

[@brianwilliams4467]

That's the Name of Gillian Andersons Daughter too

[@lizstone4347]

This is actually the only movie I’ve seen from either franchise.When I heard people hated it I was surprised. I haven watched it in a long time but I remember likening it

[@Dubstone]

Me too, i watched it a bunch of times and found it quite enjoyable

[@DrLesleyStevens]

Likening??????? Seriously?

[@DarthBiomech]

It is bad when compared to the classics.

[@ZombieGravitation]

Tbh this is the only movie in either franchise I could get through. I liked Lex & scar

[@DenizenoftheAges]

Years later - This still holds up well. Good yob, Sinny. Well sinned.

[@ianjohn2648]

I was so drunk when I saw this I barely remember any of it. Thank you Cinema Sins for keeping me from going back to watch it and see if it was worth remembering.

[@cartoonkelly7924]

It's not everyday you get a deep cut Star Trek Voyager reference in a sins video. I appreciate that.

[@DavidMartinez-pl3lp]

Clan Leader attacks wit Whipping dreadlocks!!!

[@jevilslittledevils5259]

Clan leader attacks with wipping dreadlocks

[@jevilslittledevils5259]

I feel like I started something

[@AnitaBunBun654]

This is still honestly one of my favorites. I love how Scar (the predator with the mark on his helmet) teams up with her due to she saved his life and showed that she became blooded. Which is a ritual for the predators to kill a xenomorph. So she became an adult by doing that. I happened in the comics with another clan

[@Comrade_Jason]

I really like that the Predators stick to a Earth-orbit-centric centennial anniversary to return. Super convenient.

[@spacedinosaur8733]

It's barley an inconvenience.

[@Dargonhuman]

@@spacedinosaur8733 Oh very considerate extra terrestrial hunters.

[@knuckle12356]

@@spacedinosaur8733 earth-centric anniversaries are *tight.*

[@tonyh9970]

It's just how they orbit...I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about it.

[@apathynihilist8446]

Why do I now want Assassin's Creed: Alien vs Predator?

[@havocike2400]

14 hours. this video has been out for 3 minutes. wtf

[@robpagenkopf5829]

@@havocike2400 Patreon.

[@david-kc5hr]

There was an old xbox game called predator concrete jungle where you did have to do some assassinations

[@TheKannibalistic]

@@robpagenkopf5829 some people will need that told to them until the day they die. They truly do not listen lol.

[@falkon8913]

Cuz of Micheal Fassbender

[@jellis9618]

Thumbs up for the reference to Star Trek Voyager and pointing out who the real villain was in that series.

[@NekoHibaCosplay]

16:05, Raul Bova actually said "I can't wait to go out of this pyramid together, because I'm shitting myself [because of fear]"

[@SeriousD]

Predators usually only kill prey that they deem armed and/or dangerous. Weyland was not a risk until he attacked with the fire.

[@SeleenShadowpaw]

From experience i can tell you that "This must be X" - "Are you stupid, it never could be X" is like, real life scientist standard dialogue when discussing new things. Especially if you have people crosspollinating from different fields. What it comes down to at the end of the day is this: If none of you have an idea what's happening, you start educated guesses. In a room full of smart people chances are good though someone is ahead of you in the field where you could just guess and immediately shuts you down so you can postulate the next idea. It's why smart people like hanging together. I admit it's tedious and boring and obnoxious from the outside and doesn't make for good movie material. It is, however, very much on point x3

[@darthdenn1s]

Well, the Xenos adopt characteristics from their hosts. Having Predator characteristics does make sense. In Alien 3 the Xeno was quadrupedal (with no back horns) because it came out of an animal.

[@grapeshot]

I like that scene when the Predator grabs the Alien by the tail and spins it around smacking its head up against concrete walls.

[@russtralia6428]

Wait when I didn't see that lmao

[@michaelgarcia9949]

The Nashville predators reference to how bad our season was going at the time was AMAZING lmao

[@googleplussucks2490]

"it was awesome in my imagination" could really be the tagline for the entire AVP franchise

[@williamnelson5549]

It being PG-13 is a damn shame. So many scenes in this movie would be awesome with an R rating

[@williamnelson5549]

@TwinTurbo Ray well partially because you can’t see a damn thing lol

[@gastererror2563]

There's an unrated cut of AVP where they added in deleted scenes and a bunch of CGI blood and gore.

[@williamnelson5549]

@@gastererror2563 but cgi blood and gore isn’t that great in comparison to how the first alien film was done

[@gastererror2563]

@@williamnelson5549 Oh definitely. I'm not saying it's better than Alien, it's just a marginal improvement on the theatrical release.

[@williamnelson5549]

@@gastererror2563 oh yeah totally

[@kidmin]

Do Everything Great About Alien vs. Predator next! I love when the cinemawins channel does a video on mediocre or panned films. It adds a new perspective that I always love!

[@miketykes_gr8_channelmee499]

yes!!

[@nothingtosay3918]

it's not as fun to see the "everything great about ___" videos when it's for a bunch of oscar winners. Obviously those are gonna be great.

[@laliving7088]

Agreed!

[@laliving7088]

@@nothingtosay3918 Yeah it's cooler when you get to notice all these little things you didn't see before and how it can show you how much effort was put into a film you had dismissed.

[@nothingtosay3918]

@@laliving7088 100%

[@joshuaberardelli9461]

19:03 cool thing about that, the Xenomorphs main thing about them is that they combine their genes with their hosts, hence the predator qualities, in the first Alien movie you can see a human shaped skull in the xenomorphs head, as well as human like hands, in Alien 3 the alien that came from the dog actually walked on all 4’s, in Prometheus the alien had Engineer traits, etc. That’s why they can vary so much

[@soxpeewee]

They also get their memories

[@lastchanc3stars]

​@@soxpeeweeerrr.. no. unless that's a comics thing because I've never read an Alien or Predator comic in my life!

[@reidfever1866]

You went full Star Trek: Voyager. Never go full Star Trek: Voyager...(I'm kidding...Sin the entire TNG series!)

[@name_not_taken]

How is this comment older than the video

[@desantinotafrancesco2639]

taktaken patreon probably

[@mr.pancakes1072]

@@name_not_taken because that's how much you don't go full star trek voyager

[@kol1924]

@@name_not_taken its like you've never seen start trek.

[@salinium]

TNG>>>>> TOS

[@anniedeo1850]

6 ad breaks in 19 minutes....a million sins!

[@madceratophryid]

CLAN LEADER ATTACKS WITH WHIPPING DREADLOCKS!

[@edit.5308]

Godzilla vs Godzilla 2,

[@JadedJester739]

Technically the xenos do take on qualities of their hosts. Hence the reason we have different types. Read the genealogy tree or whatever its called. Kyle Hill did a good video about it.

[@happybadger806]

Having the humans go down first was the point. Humans go down, get infected -- Xeno's then waiting when Preds go in. Hello.

[@adamemac]

I think the best part of this channel is how no movie is off limits! New AND old, there are sins to be had by all!!

[@-desertpackrat]

I love seeing my favorite movies on here, it's fun to pick at them and joke around, no matter how much I love a movie. It's just more to discuss and I'm here for it.

[@adamemac]

@@-desertpackrat Yes, exactly! Well said!!

[@happykillmore349]

The aliens literally do have human qualities. They beat that point to death in the films. You've seriously never seen any alien fillm?

[@krcmaine]

Penguins are named after Alexander von Humboldt who was far from boring. Please check him out if you are intetested in the foundation of biogeography. He was an explorer and naturalist among other things. [Edit: Your hot take on Janeway is well a hot take. I'd say the true villian is coffee and the lack of it 😉🖖]

[@wlthomas67]

Neeeeeeeeeeeeerd

[@Dargonhuman]

Damn replicator rations causing mass genocide!

[@francispitts9440]

In his comment about this Penguin he stated “Artic” instead of the proper location that this movie is set in “Antarctic”.

[@HisBubbliness]

Wait, was Beaker a scientist? I thought that role was only Dr. Honeydew's and Beaker was just his poor abused assistant.

[@istrasci]

"Brett... Brett!!!" "WHAT!?!?" "Who was Beaker's boss?"

[@lidentorin]

So lab assistants aren't scientists too?

[@robertfleischmann4119]

@@lidentorin - Not really, they just clean up the mess and broken glass when thing go wrong! LoL

[@Dargonhuman]

7:26 the BEST "Survives this" sin I've heard in a long, long time lmao!

[@josephreynolds1628]

When he talks about Predator vs Hellraiser, I pictured Pinhead running from a pissed off Predator screaming "Oh shit! Oh shit! Oh shit!"

[@OverlordNico]

Actually, Xenomorphs DO utilize the dna of their host's species when they infect a creature. The Dog Alien in Alien 3 had a different skeletal structure than a typical human infecting one. Humans are just the most common ones we ever see because every aliens movie took place in a setting comprised completely of humans

[@6thwey]

Gonna sin you one. Looking at a dead, curled in a ball, fossilized facehugger would most definitely be associated with a scorpion...the only thing a rational man would relate to. He's seen it for 5 seconds and would have no way of knowing that tail doesn't flip over its back.

[@Ackalan]

Indeed, and since it has eight legs (scorpions are arachnids for readers who doesn't know) the number of legs combined with the tail makes it a very well placed guess.

[@TeatroGrotesco]

At a glance I read it as Elvis vs Predator, now that is a crossover I'd pay to see.

[@jagdson2701]

"Elvis didn't die, he just went home... to KILL."

[@deedee7692]

Oh so you mean predator vs predator

[@ReinholdHMai]

4:44 - No penguins are found in the Arctic region, no matter what they're called. This is ANTarctica.

[@greengoosehobbies]

I came to say this too lol

[@AcidGlow]

Whoever wins, we lo..... oh wait.. we win anyways.. as usual. 💀

[@fireandcopper]

And thus began the pussification of R-rated horror/action movies to a broader audience probably started here. Thats worth ALL THE SINS

[@akosbarati2239]

Only it literally started with Raiders of the Lost Ark being deemed too unfriendly to family entertainment for a PG-13, and in his "letters to Hollywood" Jeremy ranted about this at length.

[@kaierdmann3834]

"...imagine this was set in a good movie." 👌😂😂

[@quprey]

hello this is the alien from alien vs predators

[@sinisterlennyface1178]

17:05 I always feel baffled when people in "Alien" movies react to said creatures in a "gah, ugly!" manner. I dunno, perhaps (more than likely) my perception of beauty is distorted, but xenomorphs are... literally gorgeous? Like, "sleek black perfect murder machine"-kind gorgeous? *ding*?..

[@daxter146]

There actually is a Cube Remake in the works! Expected to be released at some point this year

[@yaboydolphin]

Give proof now

[@lionhead123]

@@yaboydolphin its currently on hold. Lionsgate is developing it.

[@hollyshouse928]

I don't know how you can sin anything, because you can't see anything. When I saw this in theater it was so dark I could barely make out what was an alien and what was a predator

[@Szokynyovics]

Tbh both are aliens... Oh, and both are predators. ;)

[@blackc1479]

Lol that's my biggest bitch about avp2. It was even darker. You can still follow most of this one, the second is damn near incomprehensible.

[@spacedinosaur8733]

@@Szokynyovics So the real title should have been Alien predator vs alien Predator.

[@solokom]

@@spacedinosaur8733 Alternative title: Alien predator vs alien Predator or Predator Alien vs alien Predator - we can't tell because it's too f*cking dark

[@randallulrich]

@Holly's House: "I could barely make out what was an alien and what was a predator." In an ironic twist, it turns out that everything you were looking at turned out to be a human.

[@thespacecowboy71]

I don't care how many errors are in this movie I love it so much and I think it was pretty good for a 2004 movie. Sure, a lot of things don't make sense or just look weird, but it makes me happy. I rewatch this movie a lot and I've even learned a bunch about the Yautja (Predators) just by paying close attention to things. I think every time I rewatch the movie, I notice something I didn't see before and immediately add it to my mental notes lmfao

[@datsapaddlin6449]

When I saw the trailer for Alien vs Predator with Sanaa Lathan in the middle I screamed “Take my money!!!!!”

[@justtime6736]

Sheep. Baa baa. Do you also wear a mask showering? I bet you doooooo 🙈🙈🙈

[@mahoganymuffin2628]

Sanaa Lathan is so underrated... and gorgeous

[@sarahgabriella84]

@@mahoganymuffin2628 She deserved better than this crappy script. They always try to get the next Ellen Ripley when what we need is new characters that are unique. Reiko Aylesworth in AVPR as well.

[@thisisnotaname9991]

@@justtime6736 Bot? bot.

[@Aaron48219]

Janeway was the real villain of Voyager. Species 8472 was the best thing to happen to that ST series.

[@jron2986]

I really enjoyed the series....had awesome character growth except Harry Kim lol

[@TheHumanRanger]

I strongly disliked Janeway she was always trying too hard to be badass. You either ARE badass, or you are NOT!

[@tristanflynn4014]

@@TheHumanRanger She DID crash the ship into that Krenim time ship during the Year of Hell. That was pretty dope. She even had to aim the ship visually because the viewscreen was blown out.

[@d.b.4671]

The revenge-bent alien got assimilated in the end...you know, for anyone who was wondering.

[@HulklingsBoyfriend]

@@d.b.4671 yes, the species 113 or whatever alien with the quantum slipstream technology.

[@tribelzen]

The pinhead vs predator comment was great, such sights to show us, hahahahaha

[@paulbennett2284]

I was waiting for the Predator to repeat a recording of someone saying “Alexa, play Despacito”