Everything Wrong With Leviticus 25 in the Bible

[@rwandaforever6744]

Giving the soil a "rest" is absolutely common. Especially when you are not cycling crops but put the same stuff in the same soil. It gets depleted of certain minerals and nutrients and your yield will go down. You can avoid this with cycling different crops that each take different nutrients from the soil and add some by fertilizing. It is still a good idea to lat it lie fallow once a while to replenish. This is actually one of the few part of the bible that IS a good idea.^^

[@Funkin_Disher]

Aye a good idea implemented poorly and without the proper reasoning behind it. Very much The Bible.

[@scienceexplains302]

Are you saying that even with the option to cycle different crops, letting the land lie fallow every so often is still a good idea?

[@Richard_Nickerson]

But NO farming AT ALL for TWO years?

[@thomasfplm]

About crop rotation, even better, some plants have bacterial colonies at their roots that help to reintroduce certain nutrients into the soil.

[@rwandaforever6744]

@@scienceexplains302 That depends on the crops you are planting. If you know what you are doing, on a soil chemistry/biology level, you do not have to let it lie fallow. Some do it anyway to get some feed for their animals or out of economic reasoning. But in 2000BC this was trial and error. Once in 7 years is not optimal anyway. Once every 3 is better.

[@PaulThomas-qb9cx]

Today we celebrate a zombie apocalypse by hunting and eating egg-shaped chocolates, brought by a giant sentient rabbit.

[@bluebelldays7650]

Lol

[@cjdennis149]

The Bible already has a talking snake and a talking donkey. Why not a giant sentient rabbit as well? It can't make the book any more ridiculous than it already is!

[@skepticusmaximus184]

😂 Yep! Happy zombie Jesus day everyone. 😊

[@TSSmith]

Award this guy for best comment in world history right here

[@cjdennis149]

@Ronnie Alexander That's called reversing the burden of proof, and it's a fallacy. Can you demonstrate that any snake or donkey has talked ever, outside of fiction?

[@north-i1k]

Ah, nothing like learning about the rules of slavery from the Bible on Easter Sunday...lol

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

Yes, and all the happy christian children in my hood with their "Community outreach" (proselytizing) all happy for the new christian America their republitard parents promised them are going to feel the wrath of god one way or another, once Levitical law is back!

[@samnoname8949]

@@Bob-of-Zoid You do realize many Democrats consider themselves Christian's, right? No I'm sure you couldn't be troubled with acknowledging reality... That's just not the Democrat way! "New Christian America"? The founding forefather's would suggest there's nothing "new" about it..... What's funny is how you mindless frauds act like people are bigots for acknowledging terrorism committed in the name of Islam, THEN VERBALLY HARASS CHRISTIANS LIKE TRUE BIGOTS!!! THE DEMS HAVE CREATED THE WORST KIND OF PEOPLE IMAGINABLE.. ITS NO LONGER A MYSTERY HOW HITLER WAS ABLE TO RADICALIZE AND WEAPONIZE SO MANY *OTHERWISE* GOOD PEOPLE OF GERMANY.....

[@MatthewCaunsfield]

In medieval times a 3 field crop rotation was used (with one staying fallow each year to recover) but going completely without farming AT ALL for an entire year seems a bit risky!

[@MovieMakingMan]

But there must not be any work on the land in years 49 and 50 so imagine how much the land will deteriorate in 2 years time. I’m not a farmer but I know leaving land for two years will have it completely covered in weeds and all kinds of inedible plants. They didn’t have Caterpillar equipment back then so retilling the soil must’ve been extremely hard. And how can those people eat 2 year old food? Maybe they canned it LOL.

[@MatthewCaunsfield]

@@MovieMakingMan Yeah, the almighty lord of the universe really didn't think that one through 😁

[@MovieMakingMan]

@@MatthewCaunsfield True. Look at the biblical god’s resume? He spent eons before genesis doing absolutely nothing. He was all powerful but sat in an empty void. He didn’t even have the initiative to create light so he could look around. And the dummy didn’t even make a Mrs God to have sex with in all that time. Then when he finally did do something as described in genesis he screwed up and made two versions of creation. Then he started blaming things he made for all the problems he caused. In addition to his lack of initiative and his inability to work with others and then blame others for his mistakes I would definitely not hire him for any position in my company. Not only does he have extremely serious character flaws he was a deadbeat for the eons before genesis when he did absolutely nothing.

[@proculusjulius7035]

@@MovieMakingMan would you be willing to hire me in his stead?😅

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

@@MovieMakingMan but it might be their best shot at fertilizing by BURNING down the weeds... 2 years is short enough to not result in unmanageable root systems,

[@dragowolfraven3806]

You would think that God would make not owning slaves a commandment.

[@wyldink1]

Not if he's cool with it.

[@KianaWolf]

Yet another reminder that the Christian god is not a just or loving god.

[@robsengahay5614]

@@krystal5887 It is almost as if the Bible was written by the men of that time period rather than an all-knowing God who would have known that on the future slavery would be deemed unacceptable.

[@MovieMakingMan]

@@krystal5887 God is supposed to be all knowing. Who was in control, him or primitive, barbaric goat herders? Why did god succumb to ignorant people? That’s not powerful at all. That’s stupidity. That gOD is the most immoral thing ever invented by barbaric, primitive men. Christianity has caused more harm than all wars, diseases and natural disasters combined. It is toxic. I’m sick of people apologizing for the acts of a psychopathic ‘god’. Why do people lie and do horrible things in the name of Christianity?

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

Drago Wolfraven Why would you think that?

[@Martial-Mat]

Letting the land lie fallow for a year is a legitimate farming practice, especially in land that is not fertilised.

[@solentbum]

Three and four year crop rotation was normal, but not all fields were fallowed at once.

[@debbys-abqnm4537]

Organic farmers will grow and turn under crops that will enrich the land as they (the crops) compost, turning sand and clay into soil. I'm thinking gardeners and farmers use plants that store a lot of nitrogen. Good farmers here in the high desert (of New Mexico) put as much "tilth" into their land as possible, to build up the land, help it retain water, and turn it productive. Lots of care is taken: Mom Nature is watching!

[@solentbum]

@@debbys-abqnm4537 The length of time involved and methods will depend on where the land is, and local experience. Three and four years rotations were good in the UK until the one croppers took over, now we have lots of damaged land. I guess this chapter just proves that god was not a hands on guy, or maybe he was the model for slash and burn farming in the Amazon

[@solanceDarkMOW]

I was gonna say that. Y'know, just don't do them all at once.

[@ShikataGaNai100]

In South Dakota, we call it CRP. LMAO

[@TerenceClark]

Did anyone else pick up on the fact that the reason the Israelites are not to be slaves to other Israelites is because God considers them his own slaves?

[@PaulThomas-qb9cx]

Good point!

[@jeanine219]

“Thou shalt have no other slave owners before me”, says the yahweh god.

[@c.guydubois8270]

Islam appears to be upfront about being a slave to,/ for deity....

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

Terence Clark First, Israelites were not to be slaves to anyone. Second what’s your point of God’s slaves?

[@lh1673]

He divided the sea but somehow doesn’t want to show another big miracle! Goes on with a complicated rules to start over slavery!

[@Solom0n2]

Happy bunny resurrection day

[@oldgoatsgarden4897]

Fallowing cropland is still a common practice in some areas. It's sometimes done in arid climates to allow moisture to accumulate in the subsoil so that there is enough for a crop of wheat or barley every other year. Sometimes it is fallowed with a green manure crop to replenish organic matter and to bring up nutrients from the subsoil below the root zone of the commonly grown crops, many of them are quite shallow rooted, something like sweet clover has the additional benefit of allowing beneficial microbes to colonize it's root system and fix nitrogen from the air, increasing the yield the following year. What you don't want to do is to just leave it bare to grow up in weeds, weed seed can lay dormant for decades in some cases only to germinate when conditions are right, considering that many of the most noxious weeds seeds require light to germinate, every year you would bring up a new batch of seed when working the soil.

[@333derick333]

fallow land is used to graze livestock as well, which removes a lot of the seed heads, this has been done for hundreds of years before the idea of green manure's, it also helps with the raising of goats as you can keep them on a field full of food over winter close to home feeding off the grasses that stay green over winter and can be turned in the following spring

[@oldgoatsgarden4897]

@@333derick333 absolutely, it's common where I used to live to graze the cattle on stubble fields or cover cropped fields until the snow got too deep, letting them glean any missed maize. Our biggest problem weed is a spring sprouting annual that nothing eats, not goats, sheep or cattle and it sets a tremendous amount of seed that can lay dormant for up to twenty years. It also has a goodly amount of thorns as well and can get over a metre tall. For that one we will disc harrow before bud set and replant with again with a different cover crop if it's being summer fallowed.

[@janhankins911]

I'm not a farmer, but my maternal grandfather was (as were a few of my uncles). It is absolutely necessary to let the land rest after every few years. Generally, crops are rotated (so that the same crops aren't always planted in the same fields). If you don't rotate the crops, the nutrients will be leeched out of the soil (and the land will be destroyed). This was one of the issues in the dust bowl during the great depression. Crops weren't rotated and the land was no longer able to support the crops. Unfortunately, many farmers were reluctant to listen to science (just like Republicans and conservative Christians today) that said to rotate the crops. When people got desperate enough, the gave it a try and it worked. Thus, all farmers rotate their crops and sometimes allow the land to lay fallow for up to a year. It is based in science.

[@chiricahuaapache5132]

Which goes to show that Joshua was being told something that he would have no idea about from someone (God) who did.

[@kellydalstok8900]

The passage isn’t talking about crop rotation though, you are just not allowed to do anything with it. You aren’t even allowed to harvest the fruit, as if that’s going to help your vines.

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

Jan Hankins Indeed, and remember Hemant stated he’s not a farmer, yet he presumes to know better than the Bible, among other details.

[@chiricahuaapache5132]

@@Daniel-cz7kd That foolish sinner has no idea. I will pray for him.

[@janhankins911]

@@Daniel-cz7kd I don't think he's presumptuous at all. He admitted he didn't know about that. If you don't like what he says, why are you wasting your time watching?? I thoroughly enjoy his posts.

[@kendee4421]

Can I just say that all the replies about crop rotation just shows the problem with believers. They hear, they do not listen! They manipulate what they hear to fit their belief. I suggest you watch again. and listen this time! ALL fields must be left completely. Not just every third. fourth. twentieth etc! ALL! And grapes, crops and other fruit left to rot in that year. That may benefit the ground, or not, but it is not a suggestion that crops be rotated.

[@333derick333]

this to me shows that the bible is written by leaders and not normal people who actually do the work, the farmers would have known this and i expect the writters had heard about leaving land fallow and just wrote down the basics, not mentioning things like fallow land can be still used for livestock. this is not the only time i have seen this in the bible, where good advice is written but only covering the basics as though the person writing is a nursery teacher explaining some thing to a 4 year old and not a university teacher who explains every thing in detail which is actually needed

[@kendee4421]

@@333derick333 No! God told them this. Not a man. But an omnipresent, omniscient entity who was going to provide a bumper crop every sixth year so the seventh could be a year when fields and crops would be left to rot. Would He tell them lies!? You are using logic. This is not logical, it is the word of God! Or a massive con trick to acquire land and slaves for Moses and his Gang of crooks.

[@brunozeigerts6379]

Funny, I had an argument with a commenter who claimed that slavery wasn't as bad in Biblical times. One of his arguments was that every slave would be freed on Jubilee... including the chattel slaves.(as if that makes it all right) Yet, here in Leviticus 25, we see that it only applies to Jewish slaves, not foreign ones.

[@samnoname8949]

Maybe you're to small minded to put it in historical and factual context! God knew the hearts of man and has never EVER taken FREE WILL .... He knew slavery was inevitable as it was the only means giving the circumstances.... People couldn't hop in their car and drive 20 minutes and be at work where they can work 8 hours then drive home... Try to think of the way things were then and understand that you can't learn about something by listening to people who don't understand it themselves! kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5DWdISVpLxkptk

[@kellydalstok8900]

Even a Jewish slave could be tricked into becoming a slave for life, by giving him a wife.

[@annaclarafenyo8185]

All slaves eventually become Jewish by conversion. In practice, everyone is freed. The reason to force conversion for freedom is to make sure the freedom is passed on, so the religion becomes universal, and the entire society is transformed into a free society.

[@brunozeigerts6379]

@@annaclarafenyo8185 Uh huh. The freedom to be afraid of committing even the slightest sin lest your 'loving god' strike you down. And slavery is still slavery.

[@annaclarafenyo8185]

@@brunozeigerts6379 Temporary slavery isn't slavery, because you are eventually free. It's to be distinguished fro caste slavery or chattel slavery, like in the US, where a whole group of people is considered permanently enslaved. Temporary slavery is like paying of a debt through work. Regarding the 'slightest sin', that's not how Feudal society worked. You should be afraid of committing the bigger sins, and only if you are powerful and visible, which means it serves as a check on power for the most powerful, and it extends the liberty of the most vulnerable. It is because of this property that the religious reforms of the first centuries is villified today. There are people who would like to be free to create societies of monstrous inequality, like ancient Rome was. This is what Christianity put an end to, at least until the reformation.

[@PaulThomas-qb9cx]

Can't wait! I'm gonna bet that this chapter will have sexist rules with grossly disproportionate punishment, and the torture and murder of helpless animals that did nothing to deserve it.

[@amritlohia8240]

And the infamous "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life..."

[@mrcurly1147]

@@amritlohia8240 Eeewwwwwwwwwwwww!!! That's not really in that book, is it? That's gross and disgusting!! Is disturbing crud like that really in there?? I need some fresh air...

[@filipe.sm31]

@@mrcurly1147 take a look at 11:58

[@warrendriscoll350]

Nope. This chapter is just racist, and has rules for keeping slaves.

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

Paul Thomas Looks like you lost the bet.

[@kendee4421]

The replies about crop rotation remind me of the part in Life of Brian when they are listening to the Sermon on the Mount and are too far-away to hear it properly. "Blessed are the cheesemakers?" "It is not to be taken literally, he is obviously referring to manufacturers of all dairy products!" 🙂 It's on KZbin as 'Blessed are the Cheesemakers'

[@phillip1563]

Reminder set

[@Demanicon]

The easiest way for the Atheist movement to grow & prosper is to encourage people to read the Bible. Keep up the good work, love this series.

[@mariao1912]

I'm reading the Bible and not an atheist 😊

[@skiffles7895]

@@mariao1912 Me too. I'm on my 2nd read through. Praise God.

[@Demanicon]

@@mariao1912 I never said it was fool proof 😙

[@Zarai_Numbers]

For this to work, the reader must also have empathy

[@floptaxie68]

It’s easy to read all this sht and deceive yourself to believe this is OK

[@MrDwicker]

Most Christians don't read Leviticus, too many rules and regulations they wouldn't understand and no one else does either.

[@ShikataGaNai100]

"Free, free...set them free." - Sting

[@jeanine219]

One of my favorites songs of all time!!!! Another being “Shape of my Heart”. What a brilliant lyricist Sting was, in addition to his prodigious skills as a multitalented musician.

[@stylis666]

@@jeanine219 I hate it! And I still sing along :( It's so monotone :( Fair is fair, the lyrics are great and it's still great music. I just care more about the music and far less about the lyrics, so my favourites would be Shape Of My Heart and 7 Days, or Day Seven, I keep forgetting the actual title of that one; it's like lyrics, dunno, duncare :p

[@jeanine219]

@@stylis666 Some years ago an ex- boyfriend bought a book of Sting’s lyrics. I think reading through that gave me a special appreciation for his in particular. But much of the time, I am also more about the music.

[@unglaubiger5645]

For years I´m quoting from leviticus 25 when it comes to slavery, because the god of the bible explicitly allowes for slavery. but many chistians assured me, that´s not what it really means.

[@pineapplepenumbra]

Many years ago I compiled a list of 15 lies and untruths that christians regularly came out with (and 18 for muslims). One of them was, "that was taken _out of context!"_ Only 2 or 3 times, in all the years that I've been arguing on KZbin, has that claim ever been true. It's just one of their "go to" excuses for the utter shite that they believe in.

[@unglaubiger5645]

@@pineapplepenumbra Usually it doesn´t become better in context. Usually I quote leviticus 25; 44-46. Christians often say it´s taken out of context, but it only gets wore in context. As we learn from leviticus 25, not only does god allow for slavery, but how slaves can be treated and what rights they have (if any) depends on the slave´s ancestry.

[@zoetic12]

I’m told by Christian’s, “you don’t understand it because you’re not a Christian” and “you have to read it with spiritual discernment” both total cop-outs.

[@unglaubiger5645]

@@zoetic12 I was told multiple times that only the holy ghost can help understand the real meaning. So only Christians can understand what the bible really says. But even though they claim to understand it, they aren´t able to explain it. When you understand something, you are able to explain it. When I point out contradictions and mistakes in their explanations, I´m often accused of just being against them but it´s not my fault that they can´t make a valid argument. Funny enough, Christians themselves can´t agree on the real meaning. That´s why there are thousands of denominations.

[@pineapplepenumbra]

@@unglaubiger5645 Exactly. However, this does show the awful, insidious power of brainwashing, and highlights why bringing children up in _any_ religion/cult should be illegal.

[@ActiveAdvocate1]

I'm a Canadian talking here, but remember, American kids: Dr. King took a lot of his ideas from the Bible, yes, but he ALSO took them from Gandhi, which is a good idea, even though Gandhi only nominally freed the Dalit (i.e. "Untouchables") in India. It's why I think that Jainism, Hemant, does have a lot of good ideas. WAAAAAAAAAAY before Gandhi, it was already anti-Varnas. But the thing is, you don't need religion in order to be anti-hierarchy or anti-slavery. Duh.

[@freedapeeple4049]

It's interesting that King would take from Gandhi, since Gandhi considered "blacks" to be inferior and incapable of ruling themselves.

[@tealx2014]

@@freedapeeple4049 I read about Ghandi’s racist comments!!!

[@freedapeeple4049]

@@tealx2014 Racism was part of the Indian culture. Still is, but they have to try to keep it a little quiet these days. Sort of.

[@MK-lh3xd]

@@freedapeeple4049 Source?

[@freedapeeple4049]

@@MK-lh3xd Don't remember. Easy enough to look it up.

[@josephharrism.d.1056]

My father was a sharecropper in depression era South Carolina. He told me about “turning a field over”. He was an atheist!

[@MrMarinus18]

1:30 Actually that was needed. They didn't have effective fertilizer back then so letting the land "rest" was critical.

[@robind.phillips2129]

It shows me how God didn't abolish slavery, man and woman did. Thanks for sharing.

[@ryankelley8774]

So the fact that it was Christians who abolishes it......?

[@kendee4421]

The English abolished it! Wilberforce.

[@robind.phillips2129]

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[@robind.phillips2129]

@@ryankelley8774 I said men and women. I don't care what they believed. Human beings did it

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

@@robind.phillips2129 How do you think man and woman abolished slavery and God didn’t?

[@quakers200]

My take in this is that God freed the Israelites form Egypt not so much because slavery was wrong or Egyptians were evil but so he could hold it over them forever. And by the way whenever the word God is used substitute the priestly class who after all were the ones that wrote all this nonsense in the first place. Whenever someone says he talks to God chances are that the person is a liar or crazy or some combination like a televangelist.

[@grrsss8335]

letting a piece of land rest actually does make sense in rotational farming. you sow fertilizer on the area of land you want to rest and let it sit for a season at minimum to let it recover nutrients.

[@getasimbe]

That's not what it says though, now is it

[@grrsss8335]

@@getasimbe I know this, but I am talking about a specific farming technique that this passage reminded me of, not the passage itself.

[@richardlong4862]

Eagerly waiting for my Sunday Bible study on the holiest Sunday of the year.

[@onedaya_martian1238]

Believing in a deity that demands a human sacrifice, then sing about the torture and murder of the human sacrifice, followed by symbolically drinking blood and eating flesh is a perversity that only a religion could make happen.

[@vegasemerald9657]

Hello everyone! Are you ready for some more rules, penalties and more of that Levitical BBQ to offer to Dear Leader for breaking his laws? Let’s-a Go! Leviticus 25:1-7 The land is not a living being. It is inanimate. How can the land observe the Sabbath? Why should the Israelites give the land rest on the Seventh Year? As someone who is learning how to garden, I don’t think it’s a good idea to neglect the land for a year. Especially when there are invasive bugs and plants that can mess with a garden. “-For yourself, your male and female servants” Good to know the Bible can hurt males too. Who are the hired workers? Why are they temporary residents? What do they do? How do they fit in with Jubilees? Leviticus 25:8-12 How would the Israelites count off a year, let alone seven years? Do they count off a year for each Day of Atonement? Is the trumpet supposed to let everyone know of important events like Day of Atonement? Family property? Clan? Leviticus 25:13-17 Sort of what the rich landlords and mega corporations are doing? Taking advantage of people and treating the rest of us like peasants. Why should people buy land from their own people? Is it maybe imply to buy from people you know? Increase the price when years are many, decrease when the years are few, what does that mean? Leviticus 25:18-22 Well, nobody’s carefully obeying those laws. How would people survive during the seventh year without any food? Why would people eat from old crops? Are they ageless crops? Also, food can go bad. I had seen fruits go bad. So, Dear Leader can serve people old food that isn’t fresh. Leviticus 25:23-24 Why not keep the land permanently? What if people loved the land? How does Redemption of the Land work? Who does the redeeming? What does Redemption of the Land mean? Does it involve healing contaminated land and maintaining it afterwards? Leviticus 25:29-31 So, you are scammed into buying a broken, worn down house, you are aren’t allowed to sell back the house if you don’t redeem it within a full year (for walled cities)? Why would houses in villages without walls be returned in the Jubilee? To who? Leviticus 25:32-34 Levites, YHWH’s favorite people. How does a Levitical town operate? So Levites can redeem any houses sold in any towns they own to return in the Jubilee. What’s the pastureland? What if a Levite is not satisfied with the pastureland of their towns? Are they forced to keep what they don’t want? Why? Leviticus 25:35-38 Leave out the “Fear your God” part and consider this sold. It would look like this: “If any of your fellow Israelites become poor and are unable to to support themselves among you, help them as you would a foreigner and stranger, so they can continue to live among you. Do not take interest or any profit from them, so that they may continue to live among you. You must not lend them money at interest or sell them food at a profit.” Leviticus 25:39-43 “If any of your fellow Israelites become poor and sell themselves to you, do not make them work as slaves.” Should’ve condemned slavery back in Exodus. Workers should have rights and a union. The Confederation has not heard of how Jubilee works that includes not treating their workers like slaves and giving them a release. If the Israelites are not to be sold as slaves, neither should foreigners and anybody else be sold as slaves either. Also, how many slave masters didn’t rule over them ruthlessly? How many that did? Leviticus 25:44-46 (Pro-Slavery) Also, condones human trafficking. Straight admitting Slave Owners can treat their slaves like property for the sake of inheritance. This is nothing to be proud of at all. Later on, there is a certain verse that- Leviticus 25:47-55 How can people sell themselves if some are slaves? Slaves have no freedom. So, families are clans? How does one redeem themselves according to the context of this chapter? How would anyone keep track of time if there were no clocks yet? Do they count the milliseconds? It has to be time consuming if that were the case. Wait, price of the release based on the rate paid by number of years a worker served? There’s a price of release? If so, how much does it cost? What do they pay with? Silver? Gold? This chapter is hard for me. I did struggle a bit with this one. There are a few pro-slavery verses (mainly towards the end).

[@intuitionz1198]

Happy bunny day! 🐰🐇

[@MovieMakingMan]

Bunnys would be sacrificed in religious rituals in that era. They had animal sacrifices for everything.

[@1MarkKeller]

400 years of slavery in Egypt, God saves them from that harsh/evil servitude and then allows the Israelites to own their own slaves. WTF???

[@bakedbeans5494]

Hebrew slaves were voluntary.

[@cbthethird]

Loving these videos keep up the great work. The wife and I watch a few every night. Its hard getting through exodus and leviticus so far!

[@ryanhollist3950]

It's actually good to allow fields to be fallow (unplanted and untended) occasionally for a season. This helps prevent the soil from becoming nutrient deficient. Of course, the desired results can easily be done without doing it to all the fields at the same time. Most farmers who do this rotate which field is fallow. It's also possible to keep soil nutrient dense if proper crop rotations are done, but that's a bit more modern of a discovery.

[@sadein]

It's a sad commentary on my life that I get so excited when the next "Everything Wrong..." pops up.

[@stylis666]

I don't know. Why would that be? I don't think it's sad at all. I love bad stories and this bible things is just hilarious in so many ways. There's just nothing right about it. The stories are whacked, they're presented as morally good, they're terribly written, repeated, long winded in the weirdest places like when describing what and how to eat and who to own as slaves, and then skips over entire battles and histories of kingdoms, and over whom to kill, when, and why as if murdering entire populations isn't murder. And the most absurd part about it is that millions of people take the stupid book way too seriously without even having read the stupid thing! XD And you can point out to bible believers how stupid it is all day and they'll just be the perfect narcissism enablers and abuse victims and make pathetic excuse after pathetic excuse. If anything, it's a pathetic reminder of how stupid the majority of people are and how people can be easily fooled into acting like psychopaths while pretending to bring civilization and peace. And it's not just the bible or christinaity or judaism, but it does have the funniest stories :D Though, I do love many stories of polytheistic religions as well. They're quite silly as well, but as stupid as they are, at least those never pretend that the god(s) is/are smart, loving, or honest. And as far as I can tell those gods also never came with recipes on how to slaughter offerings and sprinkle blood everywhere and what to burn and not burn and how to dress up the altars and shit, or on who to fuck and not fuck, who to own and not own as property. I think Allah and Yahweh are the only ones who want to control people's lives to the smallest stupid little details. And they say that the ancients pantheons were petty gods. All of them together aren't half as petty as Allah or Yahweh, but at least they didn't pretend to be any better than they were, unlike Yahweh and Allah, who, like the perfect narcissists they are, deny having done bad ever - and are excused by their followers - and take credit for things they had no hand in, like our social nature that is a result of evolution, or the recessing or curing of someone's cancer, or developing treatment. I think that being excited for this shitshow is an important way of coping with the harsh realities of religion. If we can't even laugh at its absurdity anymore, wouldn't that be far sadder?

[@dvonzosch461]

@14:20 Bible excuse makers never realize that there's *2 systems* of humans owning other humans allowed by Jesus, who _IS_ the God of the Old Testament --- his "perfect Law" of Leviticus 25:44-46, that allowed humans owning other humans forever, is described at Psalm 19:7-8 as: " the law of the LORD is perfect.....his statutes are pure..." The Southern Baptist Church exists today due to the bible's endorsement of humans owning other humans, and especially Jesus's claim that slaves " are worthy of stripes [ of the whip ] " at Luke 12:47-48

[@rcblazer]

"The Lord, your God" will then go on to break his own rules by constantly selling the Israelites into slavery constantly, because despite being "The Lord, Your God" they will still repeatedly decide to worship other gods instead. Looks like those repeated reminders don't work, eh?

[@KianaWolf]

Can't fault the Israelites for looking for a better god when the bible depicts YHWH as a blood-thirsty tyrant.

[@tealx2014]

True!!!

[@samnoname8949]

@@tealx2014 notice the tool STOPPED USING QUOTATIONS... HERE'S YOUR SIGN.....

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

rcblazer When and where does God ever break “his” own rules?

[@Richard_Nickerson]

@@Daniel-cz7kd Didn't even finish reading the comment before responding, huh?

[@333derick333]

the land does need time to recover, fallow years are a good thing if you have not got good ground like they had and could not replenish the soil with some thing, as for the grapes yes you can leave them as it will not change the next years growth, the passage does not say you are to leave the grapes on the plant but to gather for yourself, what it does say is to let the plant have a rest, that means not pruning them to get the best yield which takes the energy out of the plant and puts it under stress. i grow my own food and where i grow squash the land under the vines does not get used it just has the vines from the squash running over it, this happens on a 4 year rotation so even though my land is well feed with compost, mulched where needed and the plants get liquid fertiliser so the soil is a very good quality i still give the land time to rest and the life in the ground that keeps the ground healthy to recover from the other 3 years intensive planting

[@willwaggenspack6411]

I wonder why they always skipped levidocas in ccd

[@rebbecachunn]

Jesús - When I come back I don't wanna see any eggs. Paint em, hide em.

[@cjdennis149]

Letting fields lie fallow is still a thing, sometimes for up to 3 years. It returns nutrients to the soil and increases biodiversity. However, the amount of time should be site and crop dependent, not one out of every seven years regardless. And what's with the unintended crops? I can eat the unmarried crops but not the crops that are going to be married?

[@ArielVHarloff]

Yeah you're clearly not a farmer. Alternating fields and leaving some untended for a year or two while you work the others is actually good farming practice. Usually at the end of the time you didn't tend that plot you plow under everything that grew on it in the meantime for fertilizer and then start using it again (this is an over simplified explanation obviously) it's an old practice from before chemical fertilizers were available but it's still done because it's good for the crops and for the environment and wildlife around

[@Sham9909]

As far as I can see, this book no more relevance and should be ignored.

[@michaelmccarthy4077]

"I'm not a farmer but it seems dumb to let your land take a year off" well, allowing a fallow year is actually beneficial. It should be done every fourth year, not every seventh, though.

[@MovieMakingMan]

If I don’t constantly de-weed my garden it will be totally consumed by weeds and trees in just a few weeks. All the land that was tended to in this scenario would be overran with garbage plants. The biblical god is clueless about everything.

[@michaelmccarthy4077]

@@MovieMakingMan that's the point of allowing it to go fallow, to allow natural plants to take over. It increases nitrogen availability the following season when you plow it all under and increases microbial diversity which is beneficial to the crops.

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

@@michaelmccarthy4077 Well said, and just as he stated he’s not a farmer, he presumes to know better than the Bible, among other details.

[@SeattleDinghyer]

@@Daniel-cz7kd so someone with no training or expertise in a field still can recognize what's better than the Bible? Yup.

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

@@SeattleDinghyer Actually no, they cannot, yet Hemant speaks as if he has the training, expertise and even authority to teach a subject such as incorrections to be found in the Bible.

[@jaegrant6441]

This is where an historical interpreter would be very interesting.

[@d.o.m.494]

I bet the omni everything god gets bogged down in petty details again.

[@benjamenchiids7418]

I get the bible read to me much more than any Christian I know.

[@MovieMakingMan]

I know the Bible more than every Christian I have ever met. I quote lines from the Bible and at first they say that’s not in the Bible. Then I prove it is. Then they lie and say it means something else. How do they know. They just read it and they automatically defend their psychopathic god. That’s what cult members do.

[@trudystratton9927]

It's Monty Python 'Life of Brian' day!

[@chrisccc22]

OH I waited for this one. Watching it now

[@ShikataGaNai100]

You know, it's kind of like "God" is just making this shit up as "He" goes along.

[@oneseeker2]

Haha hahaha hahaha you nailed it!

[@tealx2014]

And, he still is today!!!

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

ShikataGaNai100 That’s not possible.

[@starofjustice1]

Daniel "That’s not possible." Oh, so you're a God psychologist. Cool. Didn't know any of those were still around.

[@Vhlathanosh]

😂😂😂

[@lidbass]

Until modern fertilisers were developed, it wasn’t a good idea to continually farm land as very quickly all the nutrients were lost from it - that’s one of the reasons why the fertile valleys where the first civilisations rose are now relatively infertile. So leaving the land to get its breath back once in a while was not a bad idea. What is strange is that it was as rarely as seven years; every three or four years would make more sense. Also, leaving everything for a whole year is not good organisation, unless you were lucky enough to be able to put aside something every year to last you the whole fallow year. It would be better to alternate fields, much as the did in the Middle Ages in Europe. So, good advice, but not very practical.

[@pranavghantasala6808]

Would crop yields go down over the time in which the field is cultivated? Because that would make "I will send you such a blessing in the sixth year that the land will yield enough for three years" incorrect

[@MovieMakingMan]

But this idiotic gOD told them to abandon their fields. That land would’ve been overrun with weeds and trees without constantly working on it. Throughout the Bible god is wrong about everything. He’s wrong about reaching too. He had Jacob breed sheep in front of sticks so the offspring would have stripes. Jacob did that to defraud his father in law. But it’s insane to believe breeding animals in front of objects will make the animal’s coat look like those objects. If I bred my cats in front of a toaster the offspring wouldn’t look like toasters😂😂😂. The story of Jacob and his breeding process is just another story of how to be immoral. The Bible is full of idiotic/unethical stories like this.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

You also generally would not sow the same crops on the same fields for the time it is cultivated as they would take different nutrients from the field or bring back others... I think beans and peas are excellent at putting nitrogen back into the ground after it was used up by other crops... so you'd cycle through 2-4 crops for a few years and then let it lie fallow for one year, usually just making grass or feedstock plants and maybe not harvesting all of it but plowing under a good deal of it to give back nutrients during that year... the way the bible describes it is like the Cargo Cult variant of crop rotation, giving it mystical reasons and properties but not really getting the method right... maybe they heard about such attempts to increase how long a field is fertile from other civilisations and just did not get all the information, resulting in this "telephoned" variant. idk.

[@kendee4421]

God does not say rotate crops. He says leave everything in every field to rot every seventh year. This is either total BS to give priests more power, God moving in mysterious ways or God knowing something generations of farmers don't!

[@MovieMakingMan]

@@kendee4421 If the farmer I know grew his crops the biblical way he’d lose his farm and end up in a soup kitchen.

[@stevewebber707]

Is it just me, or is the combination of these instructions in one chapter suspiciously linked? Farming practises likely to bankrupt lots of people, followed with instructions on how to own those people. I guess they're at least keeping relevant things together. And before someone chimes in with letting field go fallow once in a while being good, only a fool would let every field in the bleeping country at the same time go entirely untended. And yes, I did just call the Abrahamic God a fool.

[@kendee4421]

As I said some chapters back, Moses and his gang ran a massive protection racket and his family got rich and fat from it. Then instructions on how to do it were written down for his descendants, so they could do the same. Others read them and used them as the basis for their own versions of the 'religion'.

[@samnoname8949]

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[@Daniel-cz7kd]

Steve Webber Perhaps like Hemant, it is you.

[@starofjustice1]

Daniel "Perhaps like Hemant, it is you." Perhaps, Danny, it is you.

[@1MarkKeller]

@@kendee4421 I think you got it right, those in the club got the correct instructions and the rest got the abridged/edited versions because it made them easier to control. Much of the time God acts like He's doing something he isn't supposed to be doing. God was absent for 400 years of Egyptian enslavement, often ducked out on his "chosen people" in the wilderness, didn't take the direct route to the "promised land", the Israelites can't/don't use God's real name. They can't make a graven image of the supposed one and only true God. They get to the "promised land" and have to personally kill the people already on it, why didn't God directly do the killing, why didn't God just tell those other people to leave or prove to them who He is? It's like He's acting against the wishes/orders/laws of a group of His peers or maybe even His superiors. Something isn't right about this omnipotent being.

[@AndHence]

They SHOULD teach this in public schools; the entire Bible in its raw form, not just a handful of favorable misleading extractions. Had I known about all the nonsense in the Bible when I was a kid, I wouldn't have wasted so many of my precious childhood years in church and associated activities and believing in a god.

[@sgt.duke.mc_50]

I was going to make the same comment until I saw you had already posted it. 😉

[@AndHence]

@@sgt.duke.mc_50 A lot of us were duped when we were kids.

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

@@AndHence You’re quite correct, they SHOULD teach the Bible in the different schools, help kids learn and understand the truth, get rid of any false god. As I learned from studies, both in class as well as personal.

[@ShikataGaNai100]

Happy Mythical Jesus Doing His Magic Respawn Day.

[@amy_pieterse]

Love this 😂🤣💀

[@PsychoticFemboySlvt]

Lmao

[@stylis666]

@@PsychoticFemboySlvt You laugh, but you were only stuck with that fucker for a weekend :/ No fair!

[@Irisarc1]

The year after jubilee must have been rough with fields left fallow for 2 years and then no slaves to work them. I am wondering where the seeds come from. They must have had to trade with foreign nations for them.

[@333derick333]

seeds are viable for years, and in some special cases even hundreds of years as long as the conditions are right. But yes they did trade seeds, but they would not need to as each farmer had a different fallow year, and most farmers would have a rotation of which fields were fallow

[@Irisarc1]

@@333derick333 @333derick333 No, they all had the same fallow year. This is still practiced. Last year was a shmita year in Isreal. Also, you are right that some seeds last for years, but not all. Some crops need to be planted from the previous year's harvest.

[@sgt.duke.mc_50]

I am curious how a slave was supposed to get "rich" to buy their way out of anything? 🤔

[@tealx2014]

They’re not!!! Rings true today! I know it doesn’t seem like it! The Bible is very carefully and meticulously written to make you believe stuff, that in reality, does not and cannot happen! They just want you to become a hamster!!!

[@annaclarafenyo8185]

Ancient slaves weren't chattel, they could own property.

[@jrutt2675]

Well Israelite slaves were not chattel.

[@TheEyez187]

Jubilee; no cake for the impurity.... or for those of the purity apparently!

[@andybeans5790]

Seems weird that they ignored the two-field system already in use in Mesopotamia, especially as most of this was written during/after exile and they weren't shy about borrowing stuff.

[@neoqwerty]

Half of this early christianity is about making themselves distinct from the canaanites, you think they're gonna keep what works if HEATHENS do it? They banned pork in clergy offerings literally because pork was POOR PEOPLE'S livestock (and mesopotamian staple livestock) and didn't generate side revenue other than lard, while sheep makes wool, goats and cows make milk and hides, birds make eggs and feathers... (yeah, bet you wondered why pork's a nono, huh? it wasn't *lucrative* that's the reason.)

[@billklatsch5058]

Their intellectual elite was not so elite as it seems.

[@IslandHermit]

You say that leaving fields untended for a year is a bad idea, but that's not true. Leaving land fallow for a year allows it to recover nutrients. Eventually it was determined that once every three years worked best, and planting a nitrogen fixing crop was even better. What doesn't make sense is to leave all the fields fallow at the same time. My guess is that it was done that way to prevent cheating. Compared to all the horrific things in Leviticus, this bit actually counts as good advice.

[@rennnnn914]

But is wasn't just fields. Yes leaving fields fallow for a year can be good, but it's a bad idea to not tend or harvest the vines and tree crops. The passage should make distinctions.

[@Richard_Nickerson]

HOW DID THIS BECOME A MAJOR RELIGION

[@stylis666]

People were looking for excuses to create community and followers without actually having to have arguments, so they invented the emperor's new clothes and people in general are really stupid, careless, and sensitive to social pressure. I think you might be experiencing a symptom of what is commonly known as _having integrity._ It makes it more difficult for you to understand sociopathic behaviour that stems from a need for community and is exhibit by people who aren't even sociopaths themselves but still don't care about the victims religion makes because they don't see themselves as one. Don't worry about the seeming contradictions, that's completely normal in religion and it only seems weird to people with integrity and self awareness. If you join a religion that will pass. Self awareness will be discouraged and you won't know any better than to make excuses for terrible behaviour and brushing it off as: boys will be boys (all people are sinful).

[@jrutt2675]

What religion?

[@Richard_Nickerson]

@@jrutt2675 🤨

[@jrutt2675]

@@Richard_Nickerson Judaism follows the same concept.

[@Richard_Nickerson]

@@jrutt2675 I never specified any one religion, so why are you acting like I've specified Christianity?

[@garryferrington811]

Interestingly, with our current intensive farming, our food is getting less nutritious.

[@rebeccabentley7012]

Just give the land some “Miracle” grow 🤣🤣🤣

[@amyneu8078]

While I agree with you overall, farmland actually does need to”rest” to allow nutrients to build up. Not doing that can really hurt the land. At least that’s my understanding of it.

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

amy Neu Very well said, and remember he stated he’s not a farmer, yet he presumes to know better than the Bible, among other details.

[@MaryAnnNytowl]

@ ≈ 1:30 - NO, NO, NO!! It's good - in fact, REALLY GOOD (!!!!) ‐ to let your land lie fallow for a year! It's a normal thing to do, my friend. You do need to plant a cover crop, though, and can use that stuff as fodder for your animals. So, yes, it's really, REALLY obvious that you're not a farmer. 😀 😃 😄 😆 😂 🤣 😂 😆 😄 😃 😀

[@akizeta]

So, this thing about returning to the land of your clan in the jubilee year, is this related to Joseph and Mary supposedly returning to Bethlehem? Like, is it a confusion between the Hebrew jubilee year and the Roman census? Say, by an author who didn't understand how either worked?

[@TheCount991]

That actually occurred to me too. Makes WAY more sense than the census at least.

[@DonDueed]

These detailed instructions about redeeming property -- including one's self, if one has sold one's self into slavery -- give a rather different perspective on the idea of Jesus as a "redeemer". It seems as if the pre-captivity Israelites had a different concept of redemption than the later Xians who developed the notion of "Christ the Redeemer". The former would have seen it as a simple business transaction ("Here's some shekels, now give me my house back"), whereas by the beginning of the Common Era, Xians treated it as a mystical cleansing and erasure of guilt and responsibility. Those seem like very different concepts to be lumped under one word, but maybe the original meaning shifted over time.

[@brandenharvey9817]

Adam sold us into slavery to sin. Jesus bought us back, redeemed us. It's actually the exact same concept.

[@joshuaa7266]

@@brandenharvey9817 Except we also need to find out the existence of the Christian god, be convinced it is real as described by Christians, and devote our lives to him for that redemption to take place. It's not like Jesus did anything that stopped non-believers from going to hell.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@brandenharvey9817 Also, it'd be nice to be proven Adam had any legal ability, or mental ability, or right, to 'sell us' that way at all. Or even knew the scope of what he could 'sell'. Or that evil or potential threats even existed. Lotta fine print, there.

[@SeattleDinghyer]

Selling ones self into slavery reminds me of mortgaging my properties in Monopoly. I mean, you own yourself, but you don't. Bizarre.

[@SeattleDinghyer]

@@brandenharvey9817 who did Adam and Eve's kids have sex with to propagate our species? And who did they have sex with? It's only mildly better thinking we all come from Noah's progeny.

[@josephharrism.d.1056]

I worked agricultural labor (cane-cutting). Our fields laid “FALLOW” or were fertilized (we ain’t had no fertilizer) every 3-5 years or so. If not the soil gets exhausted. One can alternate crops or have multi crop combos as well. This one the Ancients got it right!

[@jayt9608]

Also notice that the process of redemption of goods and/or land is actually a manner of eliminating debt without perpetual bankruptcy. A loan gives is repaid over the course of fifty years, but the man is allowed to generate his own wealth and repay the debt, or a family member may repay it for him. The individual is now debt free again. Hemant also ignored the fact that God forbade the oppressing of another Israelite at any time, nor has Jesus regarded the commandment in Exodus 22:21, 23:9; Leviticus 19:33; and Deuteronomy 24:14 which forbids the oppression and illusage of strangers, including their slaves taken from other nations. It should also be noticed that the daughters of slaves could be married into Israelite households, and upon this they ceased to be slaves. This would actually allow after a few generations the family to be removed from servitude as his family became mixed with the Jewish heritage. No form of slavery is good, but this slavery is far removed from Southern Plantation Slavery, which was actually based more on the received forms from the Greco-Roman era.

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

@@jayt9608 Well said, and pointed out, same as all the other details Hemant both ignores and ignorantly speaks of as if he has any knowledge or understanding about them.

[@josephharrism.d.1056]

@@jayt9608 Hermet gets a lot wrong. Lots of stuff in Talmud that is crazier yet renders bible a bit more logical.(Nimrod, Lilith,”different kind of lights” before creation of sun and moon) For example he stated Potiphars wife Zuleikha, was nameless.

[@JonahGhost]

12:45 In those days slaves were treated as animals. From all peoples worshipping other deities as well as atheists. Only God’s people had commands to treat their slaves with kindness and care.

[@jhill4874]

Whoever said "Moses" had his act together?

[@scienceexplains302]

*No excuse for slavery* Yahweh promised to take care economically of people who followed his laws (Leviticus 25:18-22). He also promised to take care of generous people (Deuteronomy 15:10) So the economic excuse apologists give for slavery is anti-biblical. (Thanks to Joshua Bowen of Digital Hammurabi for pointing this out.) The simple conclusion is that the authors of the Bible saw no moral problem with owning people as *property,* just as Leviticus 25:44-46 indicates.

[@annaclarafenyo8185]

They didn't see a problem with it UNTIL YOU CONVERTED TO JUDAISM. Then you were freed after 6 years. This creates a cycle of liberation.

[@myheartismadeofstars]

Everyone is talking about fallow fields, BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT IS SAID!! The bible is demanding you work your fields for 6 years straight and then HARVEST NO FOOD for a year!! It literally even SAYS that "God" Will make the fields hyperproduce in year six to make up for not growing crops in year 7. You aren't doing crop rotation, you are just...not supposed to grow any food for a whole year. If it was discribing normal fallow fields and crop rotation it would say "if you have two fields, switch which one to work every four years. One field must be untended at all times so it can rest" something like that

[@mikekolokowsky]

“Untended” isn’t the same as “unintended”. And a rest year makes sense. It is like crop rotation.

[@kellydalstok8900]

A law about not taking advantage of each other in every 50th year, can only be there if it was common practice to do so. You wouldn’t need laws against stealing or murder if no one ever did so.

[@AdamLovesHorror]

Imagine watching this video and only commenting to defend/justify farming VS discussing the owning of slaves…SMH

[@Onganana]

God loves to micro-manage the Middle-East, don’t he? What about Japan, Australia, and North Pole lands and slaves? Manage them too, god.

[@stylis666]

WHAT THE FUCK! Keep that stupid Yahweh the FUCK away from here! XD Don't give him any ideas! I'll send Leviathan to eat him! And the messiah! Don't think she can't! She is in the same fictional universe and waaaaay stronger!

[@danielrhouck]

I am also not a farmer but I think the “give the land a rest” thing might actually be good? It’s a discount form of crop rotation or something.

[@stylis666]

Yep. It works. Well, crop rotation does, obviously, which is why it has been updated plenty of times (different rotations for different crops and stuff) and it's still used today, just not in the stupid outdated I-am-Yahweh-fuck-everything-up way. Well, I would guess that religious Jews still use it because they have to, lest they be stoned to death like Jesus' mom was for adultery. What? She wasn't? No wonder they blamed the Jews for everything after that; they just can't do anything right.

[@RosieGamgee]

it baffles me that this is the same no matter when the transaction took place. doesn't matter if it was 50 years ago, or just one year before the jubilee! it would suck to be a realtor the year before jubilee!

[@Irisarc1]

Crop rotation is a common practice for modern farmers. Shmita is just an ancient version of that except all the fields are fallow for a year. Food quality in the following years does not noticeably suffer.. I thought Hemant's comments about shmita sounded wrong, so I looked it up. It's possible I have something wrong about it here. Please let me know if I do

[@archiedsouza2001]

Let's not pretend it's a good book

[@emmanuellynch4713]

"The Bible is the divine word of God so now you must give me back my house for free because Jubilee and no matter how in debt I get my farm land is always mine alone!" Said the Levites the exclusive priests caste that totally did not add anything to the Bible because stupid deals/bets their sons made

[@vegasemerald9657]

Do let me guess, it contains more rules, penalties for breaking said rules and more animals die as a result of human error?

[@hitman5782]

Stop with the spoilers.

[@vegasemerald9657]

It turns out it wasn’t the case. Lol.

[@PaulThomas-qb9cx]

I also lost the bet as to what this week would be about. Next week..... more rules about slave-owning and property tax?

[@devinreed5725]

Actually you are supposed to let the soil rest. That's how we got the dust bowl.

[@drlegendre]

If the Hebrew god had any idea about agriculture, he'd have them rotate in a crop of something like soybeans every few seasons rather than simply let the land lie fallow. Soy and other legume crops produce root nodules that fixate nitrogen in the soil, and work to fertilize the next crops. This way, you both replenish soil nutrients and bring in a very useful food crop.

[@Funkin_Disher]

No way they would know about that or have access to it if they did. Shoulda miracled that up for em.

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

drlegendre Don’t you know, any Hebrew god is fake?

[@333derick333]

some crops do add to the soil, but they do not add every thing the soil needs that is why even with crop rotation leaving areas fallow is a good idea

[@jrutt2675]

Wrong land needs rest every 7 years. Farmers always have a bad year on average every 7 years because of this violation.

[@scofah]

Would it be possible to do the reading without background music? Background music is difficult for people to listen to when people are talking. We are on the spectrum, hard of hearing, and or speak English as a second language, etc. KZbin channels that don't have music behind speech are much easier to listen to. Thank you for your channel and your videos.

[@garypostell5268]

The good Lord is letting you live today but how about tomorrow?

[@lotanerve]

I wonder what the lord, thought of mining rights?

[@lotanerve]

@@krystal5887 I was just pointing out that the lord almighty sure as hell loves himself whatever gold that can be dug up, just to create the first bling merch, God certified, top grade...lamp holders. I'm not seeing the connection with whatever bothers you in the here and now.

[@zetectic7968]

Most people don't know about Jubilee and the forgiveness of monetary debts. It doesn't not fit well into the Capitalist system. Imagine American banks writing off credit card debts every 7 years!

[@MovieMakingMan]

Imagine not charging interest. Every Christian violates god’s decree to not charge interest. Republicans LOVE it when corporations charge the poorest 500% interest at places like payday loans. They love it that credit card companies charge 35% and up. They love it because they ALWAYS vote to keep corrupt corporations doing horrible things to people.

[@zetectic7968]

@@MovieMakingMan So many don't know their history. Usury was forbidden to Christian (as it is in Islam) that is why Jews became money lenders in Europe until the Lombards and other Italians started setting up banks in Renaissance Italy

[@jrutt2675]

That's not how it works. Credit card debt is acquired through selfish greed. One is required to pay their bills. Acquiring debt for land and supplies to survive is a different matter. The context is taken away here.

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

I think land does have to "rest" for a year. If you just keep farming and farming, you'll drain the nutrients from the soil or something. I'm not a farmer either but I think that's actually good advice. So you just leave 1/7th of your land unfarmed and keep rotating that part every year so the soil will replenish itself. I think that's how it works. If only they'd give their slaves that kind of time off. I only clicked on this because I knew what Leviticus Chapter 25 is. I always thought the Leviticus verses more more damning than the Exodus verses in regards to slavery.

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

Paul TheSkeptic That’s a very good observation, I‘ve helped many farmers before as a part of my family are farmers and true, field and crop rotation is both an essence as it is a necessity. Remember Hemant stated he’s not a farmer, yet he presumes to know better about the farming than what’s written in the Bible, among other details; besides his explanations and quite without understanding, knowledge or even wisdom. One other note perhaps your knowledge of Leviticus is not accurate with how to understand what it says and means.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@Daniel-cz7kd And how were many Christian policy makers in Africa and America to understand what it means? Also, was there ever a time it was to be fully defunct and no longer at all relevant? Since it seemed so easy to... distort. Even by some priests and law makers, later. Also, did YHWH help end slavery in the 1800s - maybe. The difference is that He did not actively seek credit for it, like with hardening Pharaoh's heart, making an example of him and other Egyptians, the Zephaniah descriptions, or the fall of Jericho. Or the Jeremiah 2:30 event. Thus leaving the final attribution potentially a bit vague, as there were prominent Christians who supported abolition (as well as prominent humanists) but also prominent Christians who opposed the same thing, for decades.

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

@@Daniel-cz7kd Hemet made a mistake but it's an understandable one considering what's in the Bible. Okay so tell me then. How else can one read this? Leviticus 25:44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour. Tell me what other way I can understand that except it meaning that slavery is permissible. I was just talking about this with someone today. That an apologist can look you right in the eye and without blinking he'll say "This verse doesn't mean slavery is permissible." or "Just because god can see the future doesn't mean we don't have free will." or "God loves you and you better believe it or you'll go to hell and suffer throughout eternity." I don't know how you do the mental gymnastics but I can't do them. I'm sorry it's wrong. You'll do anything to make it not seem wrong because your identity is connected to that belief. But it's wrong. It's just bad thinking. I wish there was some way to make you see it.

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

@@chrissonofpear1384 It’s basically very simple, the same way anyone understands what something means, and then the next step is how they respond. Sure it seemed so easy to... distort, for the time it was to be fully defunct and no longer at all relevant; after all it’s just words written on papers, not like the school textbooks that change every year which the students question the relevance of some subject or another. As for YHWH’s influence in the 1800s, are you saying you wanted Him to act in the 1800s as He did in Egypt and Israel?

[@Daniel-cz7kd]

@@PaulTheSkeptic If you are in the mind to, make me see it, I can give you the basic details, plus some links to help understand the problem.

[@TheEyez187]

God didn't technically state that they couldn't stagger their Sabbaths;, start at different yrs, was it every 7 or 1 in 7? then at least some food would be grown and collected. What if you've had 6 yrs of drought and famine and poor crops and the 7th year the rains finally come!! Oh well, hope the rain, and ourselves, are still around in a year! Hey guys, erm maybe the Golden Calf wasn't such a bad idea!

[@cepoe8358]

actually land needs rest AND for some agricultures it has to be more frequent

[@cepoe8358]

but in farming it's usually just' one field works while another rests' thing.

[@DutchmanAmsterdam]

But not all the land at once, and then too for 3 years? Because God would make shure the year before would yeald enough for 3 years? I suspect this commandment has never and is still not, even by the ultra orthodox, been put in practice. God must be really pissed of because of it.

[@cepoe8358]

@@DutchmanAmsterdam yep. world with different soil and climate conditions doesn't exist in da book

[@marilynsmith3522]

It comes across as every 50th jubilee to me, instead of every 50 years. That would be quite a long wait to get your property back, depending on when it was sold.

[@ActiveAdvocate1]

So, just for historical accuracy here, I looked something interesting up yesterday: Jesus was, on both sides of his parentage, from the Tribe of Judah. Judah, incidentally, was Leah's son, not Rachel's. You remember how Jacob worked for fourteen years just to win Rachel's hand? Yep. In the Christian scheme of things, that didn't matter at all. Always stick with your first wife. Poor schmuck. It's interesting, too, though, because Judah wasn't even the eldest son, or the favourite son. Jacob just kept betting on the wrong horse. Also, about crops, it is conceivable that those fields would have already been in decent shape, since they were stolen from an already-established people group, the Canaanites, but at the same time, letting your fields lie for a year is kind of a bad idea if you don't want nature reclaiming things. It works faster than you do.

[@WerewolfLord]

Payback for what he did to Esau.

[@cjdennis149]

It appears nobody's a farmer here. Nor am I, but at least I've heard of letting the land lie fallow and read about it! It's actually a good idea and can last from weeks to years.

[@nathangirardmusic]

Seems like a good point when looking at this generation, but if you look several hundred years further down the line, you’ll see that Solomon was David’s son by Bathsheba, who David had an affair with, then married after her husband was killed in battle (based on David’s specific orders). David already had multiple wives before all this, yet in the end was still referred to as “a man after God’s own heart”.

[@TheCount991]

@@cjdennis149 Yes, that is a thing, but you should be rotating through portions of your property, not all of you property at once. Let alone having the entire country stop farming all at the same time.

[@cjdennis149]

@@TheCount991 The problem is that Hemant is not making a distinction, poo-pooing the entire idea. Sometimes the Bible does have good ideas, although often poorly planned!

[@Demopans5990]

Can't wait for another chapter that makes the icky verses in the Quran look tame!

[@robsengahay5614]

Does anyone know when the next year of Jubilee is. Do these guys still celebrate it and what actually happens on it now? I am assuming that most of these actual rules are pretty redundant now.

[@stylis666]

That's what I want to know! I at least learned that according to Exodus, possibly Leviticus too, passover is in the first month of the Jewish year. And I learned why it's called passover. And I thought that Jews didn't take the old testament seriously and I am laughing my ass off about the actual traditions I do know they still keep from those fictional stories about moses XD Judaism is as ridiculous as it would be for people to observe Klingon traditions, sans the killing for fucking it up because hypocrisy is a virtue in religions; not a bug.

[@warrendriscoll350]

I don't think anyone celebrates Jubilee anymore. Raise your hand if you or someone you know ever participated in this ritual, and got your house back or something.

[@ProgressOnly]

Well, happy zombie yeshua day?

[@cfltheman]

What's wrong with lending money with interest? Everyone does it including the people who wrote that very passage.

[@Stephen5000]

There’s no evidence that the year of Jubilee was ever observed.

[@randyg.7940]

🤥

[@phillip1563]

Stoning?

[@albetrosxcore3028]

Farmers plant and grow in one field while the other field doesn't. Dunno if has anything to do with the bible but they do that

[@MovieMakingMan]

No, the Bible has nothing to do with that. They rotate crops. They don’t abandon fields for 1-2 years. God’s farming methods would bankrupt every farmer in the world. The land would become overran by weeds and trees. They didn’t have Caterpillar tractors back then to prepare the land. And god was too stupid to realize untended land would be useless without constant work.

[@chesthoIe]

SABBATH!

[@cieslaolsztyn8266]

Jonathan Cahn The harbinger