Everything Wrong With the Battle of Scarif

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

Rouge 1 is the best of the recent films. This was a good synopsis.

[@mohammadrezapahlavi4578]

eyeliner one?

[@kacperdarlak7890]

Yes

[@petelake7373]

Moulin Rouge?

[@andymiller6661]

There's no movie called Rouge One.

[@fabiovieira8442]

What about the Droid Attack on the Wookies?

[@blbradford73]

Fábio Vieira What About it?

[@pupulauls]

they didnt make a video of it

[@fabiovieira8442]

it's a meme

[@Nugcon]

lol

[@user-ec9pk8yb3i]

go I will, good relations with the wookies, I have

[@filmscorn1105]

Krennic had to motivate them to do something. They were all staring until he said: ARE WE BLIND?!?!?! DEPLOY THE GARRISON!!!!

[@TheRagingStorm98]

Vega Thawne They were like. "How the fuck is that happening"

[@kaibeargaming244]

Krennic has major anger issues.

[@filmscorn1105]

KaiBearGaming He got demoted, had his battle station credit stolen by Tarkin, and choked by Vader. I would be pissed too.

[@ghostman5620]

there are a few situations where krennick shows that the empire has become...complacent.

[@tic-tac9323]

revolverswitch lol they enter it with 500 stormtroopers guarding it

[@mauriziodanielemutti7874]

All of the imperial sins could be forgiven due to the simple fact that they were all blind, they didn't even deploy the garrison

[@CC-Fil]

Lol

[@thevenator3955]

Clever, my friend. Very clever.

[@baller9045]

They were all blind except for krennic

[@Reliavl]

They also didn’t get Admiral Goring, IMMEDEATLY!

[@Leifmuah]

Sins? I think the Rebels committed far more sins than the Empire.

[@shingshongshamalama]

I get why people don't like Jyn. Personally, I love the presentation of a protagonist who isn't some super important special Chosen One. I like the film focusing on a person who is a _victim_ of the Empire, suffering under the problems and oppression this regime causes, who would rather just go hide under a rock and has to be gradually convinced to fight against them. I like that Jyn's character arc goes from watching her mother throw her life away pointlessly in defiance of an unstoppable military machine to...doing exactly that herself.

[@tk-756brony6]

shingshongshamalama Idunnooo... seems like another simple "Rebels triumph over all, horraaay..." film. I don't remember any actual victories in favor of the Empire, so the unstoppable military part you said there doesn't seem to be accurate.

[@tk-756brony6]

shingshongshamalama saying something about the battle of Hoth would be understandable, but didn't the Empire simply blow up some of their shit and kill some rebel soldiers? Didn't all of the figures Lord Vader was targeting make it off of Hoth in one piece? (Thanks Admiral Ozzel. Force choke well deserved.)

[@stuglife5514]

There’s a lot more victories in the comics and books and EU for the empire

[@imjashingyou3461]

@midgetydeath which is a normal problem with loose insurgent groups. Also that military discipline doesn't develope the moment you enter the military. It takes a 2 to 3 month bootcamp of 16 hour days 7 days a week of constant correction and supervision. So that's very believable.

[@johnmccarron7066]

@midgetydeath Yes and no. Even in Legends, the Rebel Alliance was originally various groups working together, but not unified. One of the big themes in Alliance history at that time was Mon Mothma unifying the Alliance, and how there were some leaders (like Garm Bel Iblis) who felt very threatened by that.

[@koletonnelson6310]

See, the thing is, the "rebel council" wasn't just refusing to attack scarif, they were flat-out saying "Opposing this new superweapon is impossible, the rebellion is over, we must immediately surrender to the empire". Mr. Space Spaniard wasn't betraying anything; he recognized, as they all did, that their unauthorized suicide mission was the only chance for the rebellion to continue existing at all. So did mon mothma; she didn't refuse to sanction it out of mistrust of jin, but because she didn't think the attack could succeed with only a small portion of her fleet (though, of course, said small portion barely scraped by in the end, but she had no way of knowing that would happen.)

[@gumdeo]

Space Spaniard lol.

[@blackice214]

I think that dude is Mexican lol

[@Сайтамен]

Very rebellion rebels...

[@maestrofeli4259]

@midgetydeath which is funny considering scarif's defenses were pretty lacking. Come on, there were only 100s of ground troops in the surface, but there should've been around 3000 or more. IT'S THE DEATH STAR'S PLAN WHAT WAS THE EMPIRE THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING!?

[@miqo6453]

I really liked the huge amount of risks that the characters took, it made their demise more sentimental.

[@MarshalTennerWinter]

Sometimes the Rebels were like a flock of birds; there is no leader but they're still heading in the same general direction.

[@grex951]

Marshal Tenner Winter and they land right where they need to be XD

[@Anonymoususer1930]

Anchor Ankura this is the early rebellion, it is made of many people, such as clones from the clone wars, ex imperials, normal people, aliens, etc. It got more organized after the destruction of the first death star

[@grex951]

yousef rghebi i know. It was kinda obvious, after the battle of yavin so many systems flocked to open rebellion against the empire. And how the rebellion formed the new republic so quickly.

[@wilson6448]

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[@theodorberg8473]

Anchor Ankura They were never a republic, After the Emperor died they just decided to call themselves that.

[@mrpregaminghd4066]

Those on scarif are not AT-ATs, they are AT-ACTS (All-Terrain Armoured Cargo Transport)

[@fabiovieira8442]

AT-AT is more badass that the AT-ACT

[@CassDaMan1138]

Fábio Vieira exactly. The AT-ACT is a 18 Wheeler with two Machine Guns on the side. The AT-AT is a Main Battle Tank.

[@fabiovieira8442]

the AT-ACT is made of jelly

[@Abonanno24601]

MrpreGaming HD AT-ST AT-ST AT-ST AT-ST.

[@55cencrie93]

AT ATs don’t die to puny X wings

[@DeltaWolf1000]

Be careful not to choke on your aspirations, Generation Tech

[@TheBigExclusive]

You missed a glaring sin. How about the fact that only *one* rebel ship picked up the Death Star transmission? The planet is broadcasting the entire Death Star Plans out in the open, but only one rebel ship out of two massive fleets was able to receive it? The entire rebel fleet should have received a copy of the plans, and should have scattered to hyperspace as soon as they received it.

[@Darkwintre]

TheBigExclusive which is what should have happened revealing the Tantive IV received a copy of that transmission from one of the ships that fled only to be pursued by the Devastator because Vader used the force to discern which ship they passed it onto not have it freaking launch from a Mon Calamari ship in orbit of Scarif!!!

[@RetractedandRedacted]

Im pretty sure the scanners on Raddus' ship were the only ones sensitive enough to pick it all up since the data was barely transmitting through the shield

[@PavelKrupets]

@@RetractedandRedacted shield was down

[@MonkeyJedi99]

Though, they would all have to be listening to that frequency, instead of just fighting the battle and trying to keep their ships intact.

[@TimaeusEXE]

She was bluffing when she said she told the entire Galaxy how to Destroy the death star probably an attempt to scare imperial officers to expect attacks on the death star from all directions

[@unknownuser4692]

To be fair scarif seemed to be low risk for reble attacks considering most attacks took place in the outer rim or on heavily developed worlds

[@GenerationTech]

+Samuel Kerby true but as an insurgent group it would’ve been easier for them to blend in and slip away unnoticed.

[@unknownuser4692]

It may of helped at the beginning of the operation but they would noticed the unauthorized data extraction so a distraction which in this case was a full on assault it would of been wise though to acquire a second ship to board one of the two star Destroyers to take control of the communications relays and deploy a signal through Rebel Alliance frequencies 2 multiple different locations including an rebel outpost to avoid Revealing the main base on Yavin. This would reduce the amount of heat the troops on the ground have because command will have to divide Focus to the boarding party in all bits which would save a hell of a lot of ships that must have been destroyed in orbit by Darth Vader. Also a star Destroyer has access to officicers so force them to call forces on the ground they need reinforcements in which ground troops can intercept allowing rebles to escape next troops on the destroyer raid the hanger bay steal a shuttle and tarkin will end krenic on scarif.

[@meowmeowmeow594]

Samuel Kerby rebel*

[@johgekpunkt9516]

Samuel Kerby when there are all Plans of ships of the empire I think maybe there are more troops

[@wizbud4259]

The Rebellion wasn't monolith with a normal command structure. Each individual cell and its leadership had final word on where, when, and if, their forces would be engaged. It's the same idea that terrorist organisations use today. Each cell is separate from the one above and the one below. The overall strategic goal is the same for all, but tactics and targets are set by the individual cells. If larger targets require assistance to engage, cell leadership would contact go betweens to coordinate multi group attacks. While not the best way to set up a military organisation, it is the best way to set up a resistance/rebellion organisation.

[@bnadit1949]

That is exactly what the rebellion is too, a terrorist group in the eyes of the Empire. The rank structure is not really formal as we see a General leading a fleet while the Naval Commander is telling him not to attack. (Rebels S3 Finale) In a real military while the General would out-rank the Commander he would not be so bold as to defy the Naval Officers advice as the loss of NAVAL ships would get back to upper level command and he would be punished. It is one thing to fight on the ground, but space is a whole other monster. Star Wars has a lot of good things going for it, Military structure isn't one of them. If people desired that they would fund a damn Halo movie.

[@nihluxler8823]

Wiz Bud That's cute and all, but the rebellion still has a centralized command structure, including a main headquarter and a democratic council, plus from the film itself, they don't look kindly upon divergent branches of the movement they consider too radical. An organization like that could work only if the separate cells couldn't compromise one another, but most of those guys aren't researched criminals, they're senators and public figures representing planets or even systems. They obviously have a lot more to lose than some group of asshole living in a cave.

[@wizbud4259]

Nihl Uxler the Rebellion Centralized Command controlled each individual cell ? I was under the impression that the Rebels Leadership were loosely knit, though undivided, and only came together en masse to discuss the appearance of a defecting pilot and the rumor of a secret project run by Erso. Am I wrong ?

[@bnadit1949]

The Rebellion did have a centralized command, but so did Al Qaeda. Look how they operate. Now the Rebellion is certainly more organized than Al Qaeda, but they are still loosely linked and have bias towards their own home-worlds rather than a central government (Watch Star Wars Rebels for reference). And radicalism is exactly what the Rebellion didn't want at the time, they were trying to create a new government that would help everyone, but they can't do that if everyone is just as afraid of them as they were of the Empire.

[@wizbud4259]

Rolando Santiago Hmm, that seems a bit out of the norm for a Joint Forces Command. The CO is the CO. For example, General Montgomery was a British General under the command of a US General in Eisenhower. Monty couldn't just plan Market Garden and call up the Canadian General under Patton and say, 'Let's roll'. There would be repercussions, most likely loss of command or at the very least a rift between officers within the command structure that could/would lead to an erosion of the coalition.

[@nikoclesceri2267]

One thing I noticed about the space battle is that they refused to bomb the tie fighter hangers at the beginning of the battle even though they had the advantage of surprise and could have easily crippled the imperial forces

[@demanischaffer]

Niko Clesceri They probably had no idea where the hangers were

[@nikoclesceri2267]

They bombed right next to them in the film

[@ltk_xv72]

That probably pissed me of the most. I mean come on, if they landed some good hits, the fighters and fuel in the hangars could have detonated, destroying the station. Then the fleet would only have to deal with the small amount of TIE’s from the Star Destroyers🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Kreschavier]

​@@ltk_xv72shields are a thing.

[@NiraSader]

Some rebel leader: "If it's war you want, you'll have to fight alone" Raddus: "Bitch I might" *Launches fleet*

[@sorrrbet4923]

This is where the novelisation comes in handy, because is outlines a lot of what you said and gives reasons. For example, Krennic taking command because Ramda (the garrison commander) was a fool. Also explains why Cassian went with Jyn. It was because he already loved her. He’d loved her since Jedha, and that was the only reason he’d saved her from the DS. It was the same reason he saved Chirrut and Baze, as well. Also the same reason why he didn’t kill Galen when he had the chance.

[@FIRESHOOTER87]

“Acurrate and deadly fire “ more like just deadly...

[@skyslasher2297]

FIRE SHOOTER 87 actually some storm troopers did hit there target

[@IIDarkForeverII]

Have you ever heard about the legacy of the plot armour in the Star Wars Universe?

[@adeadchannel4129]

No? I thought not, it's not a story the directors wouldn't tell you.

[@datsigmagey9512]

Have you heard the tragedy of darth plaugeus the wise

[@RetiredMemeLord]

were´s the "Sins Counter"?

[@callumpears1523]

It's spelt 'where' *ding*

[@zacharyvalentine5808]

hoi

[@jameson1239]

A Face For a Skull wrong channel and it's improved sin counter 2.0 the original one died in return of the furious

[@claudeblue2281]

A Face Fo

[@neonaneurysm2365]

A Face For a Skull with "Bogali"

[@amransom26]

Krennic really took charge because those at the base were incompetent but he wasn’t that much better.

[@goldfishprime]

Yeah pretty much. Everyone was standing around dumbfounded when the explosives first went off.

[@amransom26]

Also, the planet had a small fleet of two destroyers because it would be less noticeable. The Senate would notice and question why a large fleet is just sitting over Scarif, a seemingly unimportant planet to the Empire. It was meant to be inconspicuous to the government with the exception of the few individuals aware of the project in its entirety.

[@amransom26]

goldfishprime Right, the garrison stationed on and above Scarif had become complacent. Nothing ever happened there because no one even knew the base existed. Not an excuse for a military to be so caught off guard on a high priority base but it does happen.

[@goldfishprime]

Well, the reason I said that was because Krennic saw the Imperial officers there were either in complete shock or didn't know how to react, so he took command. In the heat of battle like that, you don't want to switch your command in and out, it would just cause confusion in the ranks. Not to mention, the Imperial command structure does seem to be different than our own, as Krennic was still a uniformed Imperial, he wasn't some civilian contractor.

[@amransom26]

goldfishprime yes that’s true, I wasn’t trying to disagree or anything if that what it seemed like. And really, Krennic wasn’t a member of the military, he was in the Republic’s and later the Empire’s Advance Weapon Research as its Director but he had no true military authority. His position as Director of the weapon project is the only reason most obeyed his command although they don’t have to, especially higher ranked members.

[@ttlpwn34]

To be fair, no one else at Scarif's ground base was doing anything after the explosions started. Krennic looked at each and every officer in the room expecting them to do their jobs, but instead they're all standing there with their mouths open, so we get, "Are you blind!? Deploy the garrison!" If I remember correctly, Krennic doesn't really take command at all after that point, he gives the garrison a squad of his Death Troopers and heads over to inspect the archives, which was his original reason for traveling there in the first place. As for why they failed in every other aspect like not closing the shield fast enough - because they did end up closing the shield - was because as we've already seen, the officers stationed at a tropical research base protected by a PLANETARY shield aren't the most battle hardened and experienced officers the Empire has to offer.

[@s0r1ns3c]

The thing is; the movie didn't want you to respect jyn. They wanted you to treat her like a vagrant or an urchin, like you said. They wanted you to not care.

[@austinburras2993]

ClandestineOstrich actually the did it for every character do you want you to get emotionally invested in the characters you knew you were going to die

[@ekanshtyagi528]

And still so many of us love her

[@ekanshtyagi528]

Jyn is my favourite💜

[@xbaumann]

Can you do clone wars battles. Like the battle of Ryloth.

[@GenerationTech]

+xbaumann yea maybe

[@jangustl_wt2358]

the battle of Christopherus of the clone wars the movie. Obiwan and Anakin: "Hold the line!"

[@jakeplays4916]

Jan Gustl_WT Love! That

[@skyslasher2297]

xbaumann Ashoka that's what's wrong with it

[@balintvarga470]

Generation Tech no Christophsis

[@theempiredidnothingwrong3227]

I'm never this early will return in two hours so balance is restored to the force.

[@jakeplays4916]

Paul Harrison Lol

[@raybarry4307]

Just watched this. I know 5 years late. The Hammerhead scene with the Persecutor will always be the biggest example of plot armor in all of star wars. Without doubt. And that's Really saying something.

[@gabrieliacoboni6951]

Let's not forget Vader's star destroyer somehow destroyed the rebel feel when TWO star destroyers with tons of fighters could not. Makes total sense.

[@Louthanjen]

Glad the series is back

[@ThobiasTutorials]

Normie

[@ct_leopold1276]

I'm so glad this series is back.

[@RandomAmerican3000]

Regarding the ion torpedoes, there is a line from Gold Leader "Hit that opening." This implies that something during the battle created a weakness that was not exploitable previously.

[@johnmccarron7066]

"Star Destroyers have shields which stop collisions, like asteroids." Shows a Star Destroyer getting vaporized by an asteroid.

[@caseyrockel2260]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@StrokeMahEgo]

Honestly the Vader hallway scene will probably always give me chills. So good

[@andymiller6661]

Why?

[@katelynobrien7415]

Also, I think Cassian as the professional army spec ops officer had a plan, I think Jyn's speech was just about motivation rather than the plan. She does not convey confidence, something which is also important to soldiers following someone into battle with their lives, but there is also a history of some military commanders even being honest with their fears, especially on things like probable suicide missions by insurgents. In certain strategic situations such as that, I think fear and uncertainty is even sometimes important to acknowledge and address which is what I think Jyn is doing in her brief speech.

[@darksuperboy]

Another strategy the Rebels should of used was concentrate the fire on the tie hangers on the shield gate when the ties were being launched. With no shields and little room to maneuver the Rebel fleet could of inflicted heavy damage to Imperial defense forces leaving there fighter support to carry on anti capital ship runs unhindered.

[@NeonTetraAquarist]

Darksuperboy I had the same thought even while watching the movie at the theater for the first time! I guess they didnt know the layout of the enemy defenses were more concerned with the star destroyers and getting ships through the sheild.

[@christiandauz3742]

That wouldn't make sense Considering how many defectors they have, they should know where the TIE hangars are located

[@jwalkballin]

Everything wrong with the tragedy of Darth Plaguis the wise.

[@WHOARETHEPATRIOTS475]

1. He died

[@jaydee4861]

No problems

[@unga_bunga6004]

@Rafael Enriquez he was drunk

@Rafael Enriquez he might have invaded Plagueis home

[@jedijam91]

One thing I can say in defense of the Imperials is that they do lack the various types of support ships that the Alliance possesses.

[@deccy_boi5569]

Hey! Rebellions are built on hope!...Not a proper chain of command!

[@jalakor]

Actually, the Star Destroyers never actually hit each other in Empire Strikes Back. They barely maneuvered out of a collision, one tipping nose down to avoid it. The sound made by the vessel before maneuvering is assumed to be emergency thrust to repel it away.

[@JackulaHD]

I don't know if I just missed it but what pissed me off the most is that the star destroyers do nothing for the entire battle. They never engage the rebels, just allow themselves to be destroyed.

[@Kaughper]

JackulaHD - YES! Exactly! Thank you. Someone else noticed!

[@MrShadowpanther3]

Actually it seemed like the capital ships never exchanged fire at all. It was all small ship damage.

[@177SCmaro]

MrShadowpanther3 The only times I've seen capital ships exchange fire in Star Wars moives is during the beginning of ep 3 and end of ep 6 (briefly in the case of the later, probably due mostly to limited special effects at the time).

[@m.otoole7501]

"Jyn and Cassian should have hooked up." You, me, and most of the fandom.

[@BrokenEyes00]

The film trope of the rebellious small group define orders and taking on a much larger well organized military force is just about as old as America and pays homage to The romanticized national memory of the American Revolution, in that an underdog can take on anything if they want it bad enough. Of course the cold reality is that rarely if ever is actually the case because if it were then nations that spend militaries are wasting billions if not trillions of dollars maintaining personal and equipment capable of repelling and or conducting an invasion. What’s more, films like these have the additional troupe of the romanticize the martyr that upholds the idea that the ends justify the means. Both of these tropes fly in the face of reality and civilization as a whole (which is probably why they are rarely seen outside of war films. To give a bit of context to what I mean when historians look at ancient cultures and civilizations, when it comes to the military aspect of that civilization they check how they fought. If the warriors fought as individuals or small groups looking for personal glory that was typically a sign that the civilization as a whole wasn’t that far advanced and was likely still very tribal (not unlike the rebellion before the battle of Yavin being largely splinter groups that really didn’t work with each other but still had a common cause). By comparison if the individual fought in dedicated ranks, forsaking personal glory for a larger goal as well as watching the back of their fellow soldiers not unlike the Spartans at Thermopylae or the Roman military through much of its history then its generally understood that civilization had reached a certain technological, military and cultural level that what is undeniably higher them their tribal counterpart. In short, if our own history is the guideline, the empire should’ve crushed the rebellion without even needing to call it a war... but you know, plot armor and suspension of reality are key ingredients in fiction... and it was deeply satisfying seeing Vader be the badass he always was.

[@alexturlais8558]

Broken Eyes What about Vietnam? it's clear that a much larger and more power can be defeated through guerilla tactics and terrorist attacks

[@BrokenEyes00]

Alex Turlais that’s actually been disproven that America lost the Vietnam war due to the guerrilla tactics. The Tet Offensive had effectively broken their back, it wasn’t until they get reinforcements from the north that American troops started to get pushed back. In an ironic twist, Vietnam mirrored the American Revolution in many respects. The American militia was hardly effective against the British troops until they started to get training from mercenaries and ultimately until the French arrived, The exact same situation occurred in Vietnam, the grillers we’re not that effective against the American military machine until reinforcements arrived. It is very likely that because of the similarities and our own bias towards rooting for the underdog that we tend to forget the fact that the French helped the American “gorilla” just as much as the north Vietnam helped the Vietcong “gorilla”. A cynic would call films like rogue one, and it’s a said earlier many other American war films, borderline propaganda, at the very least it has caused many people to think that gorilla tactics are actually superior to a well trained and equipped military. I’ll gorilla tactics certainly will cause headaches, and even a good well placed one or two operations will cause setbacks, they ultimately will not win the war without reinforcements from a legitimate military that can overwhelm the battlefield with numbers, superior weaponry and tactics that are simply impossible in small numbers.

[@VindirWefent]

I agree with you there but I disagree with your history lesson. Some cultures including ancient Greece valued personal honor and glory in combat without being tribal or unadvanced it sometimes held political or religious significance to them.

[@BrokenEyes00]

VindirWefent just to point It out, the Greek city states were conquered by the Roman Empire. That being said I don’t disagree with your point either. It’s an ancient practice of coming back the war hero and assuming office, One universal he practiced and still practiced. What I am referring to however is how a culture fights says a lot about them. The more sophisticated their cultures technology is, the better they are able to outfit there Warriors with standardized equipment (mass production) which in turn means the training of said warriors can be standardized as well. Stand weapons and tactics in turn means that discipline is more essential to maximize both, ultimately leading the warrior to become a soldier (soldier for the longest time and throughout human history, typically was paid with the spoils of war, which is for more lucrative than having the satisfaction of being victorious in battle, which doesn’t bring the bacon home.

[@GeneralBlackNorway]

Broken Eyes What you say is true, an organised military is generally going to perform much better than a disorganized group of rebels. However guerrilla tactics can be very effective if applied right by competent fighters. The roman military were for example defeated in ambush at the Teutoburg Forest, by Germanic tribes. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Teutoburg_Forest Julius Cesar also had big troubles defeating the Gauls when united against the Romans. In both cases decentralized organisations went against an organised military force. In the ambush the Romans were annihilated completely, and in Gaul the Romans were hard pressed and not far away from defeat, but pulled through. Organisation does play a big part, but the competencies of the warriors plays a large role too. In Both Vietnam and Afghanistan the Americans and Russians suffered eventual defeat. As you pointed out, the key is outside influence in training and resources. In Star Wars lore the early rebellions were easily crushed by the imperial military forces as they were not organised well enough, were big enough, lacked support and did not apply guerrilla tactics and strategy correctly. Also they faced the seasoned veterans of the clone wars, while the galaxy were tiered of war support was hard to get. However as time went on the empire acquired a massive military expansion to conduct more direct control of the galaxy, thus watering out their competent seasoned veterans with inexperienced individuals. In addition the clone war veterans were retiring lowering the quality of the imperial military quite a bit. As time passes the ineffective rebels were eliminated while seasoned veterans emerged as well as returning war veterans on the separatist side joining in. They increasingly gathered local support and galaxy wide support and grew from local small rebel cells into a larger more organised rebellion. In the film we see the relatively small gathering of all the biggest rebellions, but still most of the rebels remained as local freedom fighters. Over time this large pool of local fighters would join in the central rebellion that became increasingly better equipped and better organised. After the destruction of the death star the fight against the empire would seem less hopeless and inspire a lot of people to join in. Thus any losses can be sustained by the rebels as they keep hitting the empire everywhere. The Empire would respond with an all out war hunting down the central rebels where ever they gathered, neglecting the local support they had. With support from big players like the Mon Calamari they would be supplied with enough ships to eventually face the empire in open battle. The constant hits on the empire would demoralize their forces and many would jump over to the rebellion. Eventually the empire became so undermined that it fractured into pieces, especially after the death of Palpatine and Vader, the central imperial leadership were gone with them that held the empire together. When the empire could only gather parts of their forces under a single banner the rebellion was able to defeat them after many years of fighting. The remaining imperial loyalists would flee to the unknown regions and become the First Order. I think one big factor in the fall of the empire is that Palpatine disbanded the senate and gave power to the local governors. It's not inconceivable that under growing support for the rebellion, some governors would either secretly support the rebellion as well or join them officially to save their own skin under the threat of local uprisings. This would allow the rebellion a lot of potential resources and initiative to further hit home the idea of a republic and that the empire was dying. This is a self reinforcing idea that would spread like a domino effect. Most people in the empire were not particularly strong in the faith that the empire brought order and stability any better than a republic. Only the hardcore loyalist would hold on to the idea of the empire. Thus in the end only a minor portion of the empire were actually willing to fight for it, so it's not hard to see why the empire would fracture. Also a nice little example from modern history. The Islamic state that was comprised of a lot of veteran fighters of the Iraqi former military, would defeat the new Iraqi military, showing that a seasoned fighting force can assemble and defeat a state funded one, but filled with inexperienced unmotivated soldiers.

[@johnnyho9977]

I don't know if other already pointed out... but the Y wings with ion bombs disabled the destroyer's shields along with the ship, that's why it can be ramed

[@xbaumann]

He said the "T" word

[@GenerationTech]

+xbaumann I slipped up

[@fabiovieira8442]

what is the word

[@Nugcon]

Demonetized!!!

[@Abram-Delgado]

I still got an ad.

[@lieutenantnomad9198]

What word?

[@MaverickCulp]

I'd love to see more of this series, but also expanded into TCW.

[@blbradford73]

What is this, battle sins?

[@Nugcon]

lol

[@jakeplays4916]

XD

[@link61601]

Brian Bradford 'planetary shields are dicks to rebel pilots.'

[@blbradford73]

Link, the Alchemist The fact they just stole a ship.

[@blbradford73]

Jyn makes the worst pre-battle speech ever.

[@liamjaya2985]

Most likely, the reason Scarif was so under protected is because nothing could rival 2 star destroyers before the battle of Yavin.

[@builder396]

To be fair, the lack of screening ships on the Imperiums side was fairly easily explained. Given the Tarkin Doctrine they put everything into massive intimidating ships. They simply didnt have these smaller ships beyond certain specialized roles (like covert transports), and relied on a shitton Tie fighters and large amounts of point defense weapons to offset the lack of smaller screening vessels.

[@ajc-ff5cm]

I have an explanation for the Y-wings: the star destroyers and fighters use their weapons as a screen to prevent bombers from doing what they did. The bombers found an “opening” in the screen of defensive fire to launch their torpedoes at close range. Also, the star destroyer had one of its shield generators damaged increasing its susceptibility to ion or other attacks.

[@Justin-un7nx]

8:49 "they should have hooked up" XD

[@curtisbrummitt5470]

I mean if certain death is that close, who wouldn't wanna smash?

[@annedavis3340]

This was about battle strategy and then he throws THAT in. The heck kinda strategy is that

[@Justin-un7nx]

I wasn't hoping they'd smash. In this comment I tried to point out his quote

[@mamswer]

Lord Hosk nah

[@meowmeowmeow594]

JKEMI : ship

[@MagicSpud]

What about how when the shields were raised the Rebellion wasted precious time and firepower attacking the shield itself instead of the ring producing it for a good portion of the battle? That had my face in my hand during the movie for a good couple minutes.

[@thebricksofmandalore1943]

That ain't an ATAT I can't remember the name but there is a vid on it I saw it

[@brotkannschimmeln2875]

Ich am only at 1:00 but i think it is an At-Act(All terrain armoured cargo transport)

[@Nugcon]

AT-ACT

[@jakeplays4916]

AT -ACT

[@lieutenantnomad9198]

AT-ACT

[@sc_art5408]

AT-ACT

[@richardbachman1260]

In the scene where the black pilot says "C'mon!", he destroyed the Star Destroyer's right side shield generator on top of the bridge. He then made his escape behind the ship. Without the shield, the SD was vulnerable to the torpedo attack. I enjoy watching your videos. Great work.

[@type_s_tyler7547]

*AT-ACT. Also, what support cruisers are cannon? I know we've got the Gozanti class and the old Arquitens class crusiers from the clone wars era, and the interdictors, but i can't see any of them hanging out for guard duty. Are there any others? I don't think the Victory class has been cannonized as of yet, but I could be wrong.

[@IIDarkForeverII]

I may be wrong but as far as I know Victory is canon but we dont know what it looks like

[@type_s_tyler7547]

Any idea where it might show up? I haven't read any of the books, i'm assuming maybe like the Tarkin novel or something

[@RanierMedic]

Nebulan B's and Corellian Corvettes were the typical escort ships for the Empire. There where others that came up in the RPG put out by West End Games in the 80's and 90's, but I don't think they were ever made cannon.

[@DrewZepp]

1. The speech Jyn gives is one of my favorite Star Wars moments. It reminds me of before Luke Han and Leia land on Endor, 2. Those actually are At-ACTs

[@oscarbay9482]

All that was wrong was that "Admiral" Raddus >:((

[@Datch99]

you knew it... it was a TRAP!!

[@roryokane5907]

That’s no way to talk about your cousin, Admiral.

[@scottmurphy4946]

You died and no one gave a shit in The last Jedi

[@itsaknickname8867]

"We've got the plans admiral!" "Good, now send a copy to everyone else!" "Great idea admiral! Now anyone of us can deliver the plans instead of putting all our eggs in this one basket."

[@allejuniorhd8851]

Who has a problem with Jyn. She is 1000 times better than Rey. I hate it, when a movie is about to show of a few or one character. Like they do it in episode 7, 8 and 9 with Rey. Jyn fit perfectly in the story and her death wasnt that overdramatic

[@horationelson2440]

After that speech those rebels must have been thinking, "We are going to die".

[@GenerationTech]

+Horatio Nelson exactly

[@bjmccann1]

Allen, awesome breakdown! If you're ever in Louisiana, let me know. I'll buy you and your crew a beer. That's right a single beer, but with as many straws as you need.

[@incompleteriver770]

Single best Star Wars scene made by Disney is Vader slaughtering the youngli- I mean rebels... I meant rebels...

[@95spades]

if the shield don't account for friendly ships (could be a hassle if you kill your mates if they drive too close) that knife-through-butter is actually quite plausible, as it is going straight into the superstructure, which should be less structurally sound than the ship hull, and carries an enormous momentum due to the incredible weight.

[@briansukhu4392]

What was perhaps the most unrealistic aspect was the two star destroyers had little or no effective point to point defensive weapons, but Vaders ship Devastator has enough point to point weapons to destroy large numbers of the rebel fleet

[@davidkelly4210]

The biggest issue I have is WHY didn't Tarkin fire the death star either at full power to wipe out the planet or AT THE TARGET?! The death star beam had to have hit 100 miles away! I get that we had to have the goodbye moment but they could have just had the death star show up a bit later. In fact making both the characters and audience think the good guys would live only for the death star to jump out of hyperspace and vaporize them would have given more weight to their deaths.

[@GenerationTech]

+David Kelly lol yea it was pretty dramatic how it just kind of blew up krennic and then he beam disappeared off in the distance. I think they didn’t fire at full power because it would’ve destroyed fleet above the planet . Another reason is maybe the reactors weren’t all charged

[@DavidbarZeus1]

I think that they were hoping that while the tsunami (for lack of a better word,) would annihilate the rebels while leaving the archive building intact, if a little flooded. That's the only thing I can think of.

[@davidkelly4210]

No water for something like that. No, it was plot armor so everyone could say goodbye. Having the death star simply show up later would have been better writing.

[@N3xtStopHell]

David Kelly The first time the Death Star was at full power was during episode 4. If they would’ve done it during Rogue One it would have broke continuity. That’s why we never saw the Death Star fully destroy a planet.

[@dawnknightx]

The reason Alderaan was eventually chosen was because it would inspire fear into any other rebelling systems. Worst case scenario, the empire resorting to blowing up one of the planets with their base on it would not only make the Rebel alliance seem like a credible threat but also ruffle the feathers of Imperial loyalists (which was important since the senate was still a thing in this movie)

[@DMS-pq8]

Still a million times better then any other Disney star wars movie

[@Raving_Rando]

Do the Clone Wars! So many things were wrong with those skirmishes.

[@meisterproper8304]

Raving Rando Some of the bigger "Battles" in CW only lasted for about 3 minutes and they often lacked any authenticity. Making a video about them would take forever since there are so many mistakes

[@Lancer_Works]

It was just clones and droids walking and shooting. Then jedis hopping around with laser swords fighting others with red laser swords.

[@themetalstickman]

So the reason that Raddus didn't immediately utilize his fighters' ion torpedoes is because the Star Destroyer's point defense would have shot them down. Just before the torpedo run, you hear Gold Leader call his squadron to "hit that opening." The destroyer had gotten distracted by Rebel frigates, and had left its forward firing arc open, allowing the bombers to strike.

[@gregmiller8796]

That and you notice when watching the battle that one of the shield generators on the Star Destroyer had already been blown up before the ion torpedo attack

[@Datch99]

Are we blind deploy the Garrison!!!

[@julienimp8213]

Are we Garisson? Deploy the Blind!

[@melonboi927]

Mos Ewok Cantina Garrison the are we, blind deploy

[@andrewdesrochers7054]

You are not blind you are UNOBSERVANT..

[@rolfgrell4783]

Star Wars shields in fact have to be weakened for something to pass through, but if something too powerful hits it, the shield collapses. And maybe there only were two Star Destroyers until Vader arrived, because all the Arquitens Cruisers and Raider Corvettes were needed elsewhere.

[@lieutenantnomad9198]

7:55 Yes. The shields need to be down. Admiral Raddus even said "Hit that opining". He was referring to the opining in the shields that he made with his capital ship!

[@DoctorX17]

This is like CinemaSins: just because we point out the flaws, that doesn't mean we don't love it

[@otavio8566]

those ships in Ep 5 didnt colide against each other, they did an emergency maneuver. and the one hit by an asteroid, definitely had its shileds weakened or lost after sustained asteroid hits.

[@MikMoen]

*Armchair Admiral mode: Engaged* Step 1: Immediately deploy Y-Wings to neutralize Capital ships. Step 2: X-Wings escorting the U-Wings focus fire Proton Torpedoes on the Gate Shield Station's Hangar Bays, destroying it's ability to launch it's TIEs. Step 3: Once Space superiority is established, the Fleet can then begin to pick away at the Gate Shield Station as it wants.

[@chaplainrubeus8811]

PLOT ARMOR

[@chaplainrubeus8811]

The best part was Darth Vader

[@IIDarkForeverII]

Even that had plot armor. Vader was just waiting for that guy to hand the plans to the another dude ffs

[@natthanonsuktian209]

Because the other dude had purchased a 4.99$ Loot crate and get the special ability called "A Stronger plot Armour."

[@gunnerdan]

I was kind of under the impression scariff was the retirement home for old imperial officers. Guys who got complacent and haven't fought in years, and just tell stories of what they have done. Thinking of it like that, I think it's easy to see why they had a lackluster response, and the director, who was driven by ambition, was able to take charge and organize at least some sort of defense strategy

[@konac7191]

i have a few answers that might help, but are probably just me trying to fill in the plot holes myself 1) i think Jyn's speech translates to "take it one step at a time and push your luck until you die, lol. none of you are main characters" 2) i don't think Krennic was supposed to be in charge, but he's an egomaniac and was already upset, so he probably assumed command and all of the officers just rolled with it like the power bottoms they are. 3) you pointed out that the ISDs had no supporting ships. all i can say to that is RIGHT!? WHERE'S THE REST OF THEIR FLEET!? THEY ARE CAPITAL SHIPS. C A P I T A L SHIPS. EVEN SSDs NEED SUPPORT SHIPS BUT YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU CAN'T SPARE 1 FUCKING CRUISER TO SUPPORT THEM? NOT 1 CORVETTE? ISDs ARE EXPENSIVE 4) i think the TIE screen was preventing the Y-Wings from deploying their ion torpedos until they saw an opening to go in. at least that's what i thought it was because they said "i see an opening!" or something along those lines.

[@konac7191]

i have 2 problems with the scene 1) the ISDs still need support ships. they're good in a fight, but all alone the rebels can exploit weaknesses like, say, if the fighter screen has an opening and a squadron of bombers go right through. even the fleet thrawn was assigned to as a lieutenant was like 3-4 cruisers and 1 ISD instead of 2 ISDs. like, why not send the executor off on its own? because 8-10 ships are better than 2, all other factors equal. 2) as a capital ship, ISDs are already assigned to their own fleets. these two seem to have just popped out of nowhere, so there's probably a fleet somewhere down 2 ISDs and it's just a bunch of frigates.

[@Areanyusernamesleft]

Bobo Squiggilywinks except in this movie.... *Spoiler Alert* Even the main protagonists die.

[@alexturlais8558]

I'm not sure you know what a power bottom is.

[@konac7191]

Alex Turlais joke jōk/Submit noun 1. a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline. "she was in a mood to tell jokes" synonyms: funny story, jest, witticism, quip; pun, play on words; informalgag, wisecrack, crack, one-liner, rib-tickler, knee-slapper, thigh-slapper, punch-line, groaner "they were telling jokes"

[@alexturlais8558]

Bobo Squiggilywinks a better analogy would be a sub bottom.

[@wheresgolberg]

Jyn's speech highlights the key concept of the film, hope. The whole movie is about hope. Jyn and Cassian know its a suicide mission but are going in anyway. They are against overwhelming odds but it is the only way for the Death Star secret to get exposed. They know they won't be the ones destroying the Death Star but hope that their sacrifice means someone else will.

[@melonboi927]

Everything wrong with battle of Kashyyyk

[@ekanshtyagi528]

No loyalty to the rebellion and a criminal you say. Wasnt Han the same?

[@Native_Beats_]

YES!!! wait... HE SAID THE T-WORD

[@batuhangocer6642]

The real part that doesn’t makes sense is why would Empire destroy such an important base for a few rebels?

[@qusayabdul-hamid1778]

of all the wrong things in this movie, the most ridiculous thing is how some blind guy can avoid a bunch of highly trianed death troopers, and the excuse people use is "He is force sensitive". The jedi at the jedi temple were force sensitive, but we all know what happened to them.

[@qusayabdul-hamid1778]

*trained

[@TheTendermen]

He was one with the force (plot), and force (plot) was with him.

[@r13lilwendz]

All is as the plot- I MEAN FORCE!- Wills it.

[@ncr_ranger96]

Actually, he wasn't even Force-Sensitive. He was just a monk of sorts.

[@user-tj8ok5tf1j]

Sorry for the long reply. Chirrut Imwe wasn't force sensitive though some like to believe he was. He had the skills he had because he has rigorously honed his body through intense physical and mental discipline [from Star Wars Databank: www.starwars.com/databank/chirrut-imwe]. He was one of the Guardians of the Whills, an order of spiritual warrior-monks and he was attuned to the Force in a way that most people were not. However, not all Guardians were like Chirrut. I can imagine after being trialled and tested by the hardships of the Enpire, some lost their way/faith. For example, Baze was "once the most devoted Guradian of them all". Now imagine if you lived in that time. Wouldn't you wonder, if the force was even real? Why did it let everything happen and why did people like the Jedi who had the force let the Empire take over? Couldn't it have been prevented? Instead, you are now living a harsh life under the rule of the Empire. Your faith can be shaken and you begin to doubt if the force actually exists. Baze lost his faith but Chirrut kept believing in the force. Chirrut's chant "I am one with the force and the force is with me" is some sort of prayer. I say that because he chanted those words when they were in a cell, being held by Saw in Jedha and Baze mocked him saying "he's praying for the door to open". Chirrut responded, "it bothers him because he knows it's possible". Chirrut chanted those same words when he was walking over to the master switch on Scarif. The force shielded him from the shots being fired at him just like it did for Luke in episode 4 when Vader couldn't shoot Luke's x-wing down. The only difference is Luke didn't have to chant anything because the force was naturally strong with him. And as for the Jedi in the temple? It's not like the Jedi didn't go down without a fight. They were clearly out-numbered and death couldn't be avoided. And Chirrut's victory wasn't long-lived because he died shortly after he accomplished his goal. Rogue One was refreshing because we got to see a different perspective of the force from people who are non-force sensitive and how they viewed it and use it. Right from the start, we saw Jyn's mom Lyra give her a necklace with a kyber crystal and told her to "trust the force" and later in the movie we saw Jyn pray when she held the necklace in her hand and closed her eyes when they were transmitting the clearance code to enter Scarif. And it worked. So I don't think it was "ridiculous", it's a powerful and underappreciated scnene.

[@valzicplayz3845]

I like Rouge One but I gotta say Scarif with the most vital information to the Empire you have only a planet shield and 2 Star Destroyer protecting the plans really like REALLY?

[@chillywolfdoesgaming2100]

Can you do everything wrong with the old republic

[@GenerationTech]

+JasskordyDaily hm good idea

[@danielf4136]

Bro that V Neck!!!!!!!!!! Deeeeep! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@reitatr5320]

Admiral Raddus used the ion torpedos after a single x wing shot down one of the shield generators on the ISD which created a whole in the shield. That's why they didn't use them earlier!

[@zachcrschuller2406]

1. The walkers on Scarif were AT-ACT's, a lesser armed but slightly larger cargo variant. 2. Right before the Y-Wings bomb the Star Destroyer with ion torpedoes, we see one of blue squadron's members destroy one of the golf-ball shaped towers on top of the Star Destroyer's command structure. That tower was a critical part of the Star Destroyer's shield system, so taking it down left it vulnerable to being disabled.

[@katelynobrien7415]

I feel that the things wrong with the Battle of Scarif are largely confirmed by you to be smaller things overall, and I don't disagree with most of the things you pointed out. Although I do have some thoughts.... Maybe you just meant it as a joke, but otherwise I completely fail to see Jyn Erso and Cassian Andor hooking up and don't understand how some are serious about this if being critically analytical of their characters. The final moment to them seemed to me to be more this moment of penance between them, going out in peace for having accomplished something together in the name of a just cause they mutually shared. Remember that Cassian Andor was going to ASSASSINATE Jyn Erso's father! He and the Rebel High Command lied to her and used her to this end. This would be sort of an alienation point, and I think give credence to what you said about a Rebel command structure not necessarily wanting to go off of Jyn's word, but while I can imagine change of conscience on Cassian's part during his short time with Jyn, I think romance between them is a massive and uncomfortable stretch from setting out to murder her dad only recently (and the Alliance mission on Eadu did ultimately get him killed). So that's my biggest critique of this video. No way in hell would Jyn have a romantic interest in Cassian, but I absolutely see this very pure and beautiful moment of redemption between the two over what they did together on Scarif.

[@GenerationTech]

+Katelyn O`Brien hehe you’re right I was just kind of thinking maybe right before hey died they’d want to make an emotional connection. But that’s just me.

[@katelynobrien7415]

Yeah, I guess I can see them doing more with an emotional connection. I dunno. I kind of liked the embrace I saw and the way it happened after Cassian actually pulled Jyn away from spending her final moments with a mind focused on vengeance against Krennic, who perhaps symbolically gets blasted away on his tower while Cassian and Jyn seem to embrace in a redemptive moment on the beach before going out together as comrades in the end. These characters get a lot of criticism for their supposed lack of development in a movie definitely structured differently from all of the other Star Wars movies, and they did take some depth away from Jyn's character I've heard with some of the cuts made to the film, but there are certain details that I've caught after rewatching the film a few times that make me particularly like the movie and relate with Jyn probably more than I do with Leia or Rey (although Rey has more development coming as well). In honesty, I think it also worked to the movie's favor unintentionally that it also came out after the election of Donald Trump, leaving a lot of people in the mood to root for the cause of a group of rebels who the movie made me feel for more than any of the other Star Wars films. Anyway, as someone that has long followed military history, works for defense, and had originally been planning on entering the military, keep up all of the strategy and tactics videos which I absolutely love! My favorite military personnel in Star Wars have always been the Rebel pilots, because I think they are by far the crux of an insurgency against the Empire's infrastructure across an entire galaxy. The Rebellion certainly can't afford often to face the Empire head-on in a lot of fleet battles (which you addressed well in your Endor video), which I would guess factors heavily into why it outfits very independent starfighter pilots with hyperdrives and shields. Plus, in the books at least, they seem to have to be able to interact with many vastly different cultures across the various star systems to wage this kind of asymmetric warfare. Kind of like special forces, but with X-Wings instead of M4s, though I might also imagine older Z-95s and maybe Y-Wings valuable even for perhaps blending in more with certain groups for specific missions like smuggling or providing planetary air support for some insurgent cells.

[@jordanlg520]

I think Rogue One is my favourite star wars film to date, and specifically my favourite ending to any film. The desperation in the ending is so believable because we know this is where these characters' stories come to an end.

[@danielmartin9057]

Do some of these videos on the clone wars battles

[@bcmm1880]

This is prob one of my fav Star Wars content out of the shows, movies, ect

[@AlexSoetekouwProductions]

Bowr Gullit

[@davidwhitehead3089]

Correction: The Star Destroyers in Empire Strikes Back never actually struck each other, and they also still had their shields.

[@aa-jr1fq]

The only reason the Battle of Scarif worked out is because of Pao.

[@larryjones5889]

Wat Tambor Skalla!

[@CT--my4lf]

His full name is Paodok"Draba"Takat Sap'de'rektinik'Linek'ti Ki'Vef'Nik' Ne Sevef'Li'Kek

[@mychalpetti3392]

wtf , why doesnt this channel have more subscribers. these dudes go so in depth

[@GenerationTech]

I know right?!

[@ela7atienza]

(insert joke about inserting a joke about being early here)

[@daemonblackfyre3238]

This is why I didnt feel bad gunning doing Jyn Erso in Battlefront.

[@elementaljedi9335]

Do the battle of Utapau plzz from ep3

[@Emperorofthemoon1]

Can we just talk about Vader at the end there? His life support apparatus has little indicator lights on it...which he TURNED OFF so he could stay hidden until he ignited his lightsaber. He turned off his life support for the sake of making a dramatic entrance. Vader is so fucking extra and I love it.

[@Lordonrav1]

I liked this video because Generation Tech liked this film more than the Fart Awakens! lol

[@Alex-ji6ob]

Lordonrav1 >The Fart Awakens You guys aren't even trying with these names anymore are you?

[@Lordonrav1]

NOPE lol, pardon me, I had to relieve some gassy Jar Jar Abrams brand beans from my bowels. wooow the smell it stinks of a potent kylo flavored lol all in good fun.

[@Alex-ji6ob]

Lordonrav1 And people give TFA shit for being uncreative...

[@larryjones5889]

Lordonrav1 *Farce engorges lol

[@shadowzone2588]

I like how you say how imperial star destroyers have shields designed to withstand huge chunks of debre yet in the next clip you show a star destroyer bridge being destroyed by an asteroid

[@Decembirth]

It's not Disney, it is Kathleen Kennedy.

[@calumscott8737]

Hey GT - like your vids, got a request for future content here - could you do a "everything right" with Scarif (/other battles)? Lots in it that made sense as well as the stuff that didn't.

[@tlb84gaming5]

Let's not forget Tarkin's awful decision to use the Death Star laser to destroy the Imperial base on Scarif. And leave the rebel fleet that just destroyed two Star Destroyers. To Darth Vader's lone Star Destroyer. Instead of using the thousands of turbo laser batteries on the Death Star to vaporize the rebel fleet in a few seconds.

[@N3xtStopHell]

TLB84 Gaming What was the problem. Vader’s capital ship was not a typical star destroyer. It had more guns and armor compared to the others. And if you ask me, Vader did fine, his capital ship was able to wipe out the remaining fleet and immobilize the rebel capital ship.

[@ChevyChase301]

TLB84 Gaming what would you use to kill an ant? A tank or a boot? A boot would be much more accurate.

[@MrShadowpanther3]

But if you have the tank already on scene and rolling...

[@177SCmaro]

Illuminati Confirmed Where was it mentioned in the movie that Darth Vader's Star Destroyer was specially equipped? That sounds like something you just made up. Those other two Star Destroyers should have easily been able to destroy the small Rebel Fleet. If I remember right the Rebels only brought one real capital ship to that fight.

[@177SCmaro]

chris pearson Upgraded from completely useless to what one would expect a massive warship be capable of?