Everything Wrong With The Greatest Showman

This movie has sins, several just for trying to make it seem like P.T. Barnum was a super nice and swell guy. TLDR: he wasn't.
Remember, no movie is without sin! Which movie's sins should we expose next?!
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[@emmetthesubwaybosswhorunso1319]

The bearded lady's song won an award. Plus the actress was really shy and cried when she started singing in a room with the rest of the cast. And hugh holds her hand. It was beautiful

[@jessie_4921]

Present Mic awww I never knew that! That’s amazing UwU

[@mayfahmi]

@@jessie_4921 its on KZbin, look it up

[@jessie_4921]

May Fahmi great thank you 😂

[@hollieshort]

@@mayfahmi and it should be the most liked video on yt. Thank you so much for mentioning it, I needed it in my life :)

[@mayfahmi]

@@hollieshort no worries :)

[@MaCabaret]

Nobody’s going to mention that Hugh Jackman has now played a bread stealing protagonist in 2 period musicals?

[@roguishpaladin]

Well, now my headcanon is that Wolverine steals bread when he's hungry. That's what the plot of Wolverine: Origins should've been, huh?

[@angieb976]

Least in this one he wasn’t imprisoned for 20 years

[@PhoenixHavok]

If I had a nickel for every time it happened, I would have two nickels. Which is not a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

[@sugarmochi9251]

Ah yes, *Jean Valjean*

[@coolsceegaming6178]

Phoenix Havoc you could say the same thing for how many times Britain trapped Napoleon in Africa

[@rosypaw36]

"at elementary school age boys and girls aren't making life long relationships" that's not what fanfiction says

[@justsomeunicornwithinterne6490]

I’m wheezing

[@wlfecipse5751]

Yep that's fanfiction and just about any fantasy and good movie I have ever seen or read

[@shnugglebugs5524]

That's not what my 13 year old gay ass says...

[@aloevera3317]

Good comments get a cookie. This comment deserves a cake!

[@rosypaw36]

Aubrey JonesPike you shouldn’t have to apologize, you did nothing wrong

[@pohjanakka4992]

When the green dress Zendaya's character wears gets talked about: historically accurate as 19th century introduced a bright green dye which was very popular and used in pretty much everything, but was made using arsenic so it was also making people sick and killing them too. So Zendaya's character would be being slowly poisoned in that scene on the theater stairs when they meet his parents who berate him for bringing her. Who knows, maybe somebody was thinking that dress color would be symbolic, considering the history of that particular color dye.

[@missimperfectlyfine7]

yep.

[@desaster903]

Yup.

[@zeusathena26]

Yes they also used it in a lot of wallpapers too.

[@silverholly3205]

That was dark Like wow

[@lh7369]

I doubt it

[@jaydias-cruz8764]

Am I the only one who thought he was gonna put a sin for ”this is me”?? But instead, he took one away and called it powerful. Respect dude. Respect

[@rewriter3981]

I would’ve sinned it

[@LemonadeSandwich]

@@rewriter3981 y

[@hanasion.3139]

KickXWeeb X why tho

[@rewriter3981]

0E_p_i_p_a_n_y 0 because it failed to make me feel powerful all inspired

[@aloevera3317]

@@rewriter3981 It also had exactly the same vibe as Come Alive.

[@rainydeestar4806]

"Here's a sin because the choreography is good and it shouldn't be because they are in a bar"

[@lucie9579]

more like "here's a sin because they should both be extremely intoxicated after the amount of alcohol they consumed and not be physically able to dance the way they are."

[@aloevera3317]

It's my favorite song because of choreography and because it actually moves the plot along, but I remember it as the alcohol poisoning song.

[@sheeplastname430]

That actually be cool if it was off a bit.

[@cedarbremner8750]

He's not wrong.

[@Haylie-]

@Sarah Collins omg "but thats just a theory...... A GAME THEORY"

[@wht-rabt-obj]

Actually, that green color was EXTREMELY popular in the 1800’s. Problem was, arsenic was one of the main ingredients in the dye. 😳

[@Mr_Storm_22]

And poisoned the wearers. Oof.

[@macaronweasley8100]

**cough* Alex Ham anything ya wanna say **cough*

[@Atlas_of_interesting]

Google ✨

[@ShiraishiHolmes39]

@@macaronweasley8100 Not really he would have not died from it anyways, if i recall correctly it was only dangerous if ingested

[@dontfierthereaper6]

Sin that he doesn’t have a bed “Every night I LIE IN BED”

[@derpyhooves3640]

amycado006 well yes but actually Yes

[@LeeKeels]

In his mind, he does.

[@KatieBadger1]

you're forgetting the biggest sin of all - Jenny Lind was advertised as an opera singer and 100% did not sing an opera number in this film.

[@marjantea9]

i expected more from pasek and paul tbh

[@someoneodd3329]

They had to make it more modern so that people and younger children would be more attracted to it. They have reasons for this stuff.

[@jayson6360]

yeah. The only songs I really LOVED from Pasek and Paul were This is Me and Tightrope. everything else was too shallow in my opinion, and This is Me was borderline too shallow.

[@XvpandaX]

Pansexual Christian This is incorrect. Look at shows like Phantom of the Opera. The singing is classified as rock, but has some operatic styles to it. This could have easily been transferred over here. Lazy music writing. Most contemperary musicals have a point for having contemporary music. This one doesnt

[@SerenityM16]

IKR I would have been so much happier to hear a nice aria

[@Durwood71]

No sins removed for Hugh Jackman being a legitimately talented singer?

[@seanregan4454]

Darren Z why remove sins

[@metal4933]

Because hugh Jackman Zac efron Michelle Williams and rebbeca fergusson I know about keala settle but screw her

[@djmindcrasher]

Yeah, especially talented in Les Miserables

[@ChunkieBoi777]

Darren Z too much vibrato tho

[@grrggrrg4805]

We already knew this

[@tlh349]

"Jackman and zac-man" I literally laughed out loud!

[@metal4933]

Same

[@JarodMoonchild1975]

The thing that really got me, was when Jeremy said "Ecstasy" (The hallucinogenic drug), to the line about seing bright colors in your head, while in bed. This man is a genius, lol. And so funny. 😂😂😂

[@kirin1230]

Literally me

[@EO-jr7li]

I laughed my ass off, when I learned Ilhan Omar, a woman who has sanctimoniously presented herself as a devout Muslim, turned out to have be having an extramarital affair with a Christian advisor.

[@verdeverde2763]

@@EO-jr7li I call Zac efron Zac 🧍‍♂ 🙏 to Jeremy

[@poofa4009]

What's completely nuts, is the movie would've probably been multiple times more popular if they had just called it, "The Greatest Show", and added a disclaimer at the beginning that says something along the lines of, "The story of P.T. Barnum has been altered for the production of this movie. We encourage you, the viewer, to do your own research about P.T. Barnum, and his show, before making any judgements on his character."

[@foiledagain1914]

*Exactly!*

[@JC_Cali]

Beautifully written but Hollywood doing something responsible like that? LOL

[@arakanichigou3582]

But... reading. *ding*

[@ttttt5072]

it’s still the fifth highest grossing live-action musical of all time so it’s doing fine ...

[@DiverseCityGurl]

that's what "inspired by" means.

[@marilyn1843]

I think you're overlooking that fact that Zendaya tried having a southern accent in the first part of the movie, but then completely dropped it after they went to England.

[@jamiedrama521]

MacKenzie :P yeah but did she have a wire attached to her when she did acrobatics no and she rarely used her stunt double actually she might not have used her stunt double

[@jazlynsyvretcreative9282]

She didn’t use her stunt devil because Hugh called her a badass for not needing one so she didn’t want one😂

[@ellahuimoisili2408]

jamie FLORENCE what does that have to do with what he said🙄

[@jamiedrama521]

That Zendaya is sssssoooo badass she doesn't need a stunt woman and WHO CARES OF SHE STOPPED HER ACCENT I HAVE DONE THAT IN MUSICALS IN PRESTON GUILD HALL. IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL!!!!

[@saraabdi1250]

jamie FLORENCE god you zendaya fans really are the most

[@alainawilson2110]

like imagine how good this could have been if P.T was historically accurate and the villain, and the story focused on those he exploited.

[@steffenjensen422]

You know, this could be an awesome film. It would be a completely different one that has nothing to do with this one, but it could be great.

[@illsaveuintime]

Ya but I guess everyone is just fine with Hollywood's version, so I guess we'll roll with it. NOT

[@j4rnusky]

Well f that, you can just watch a documentary than and feel bad after watching it.

[@lourensstrydom1502]

People like you🙄there is enough negative in this world ffs, who cares about the real pt barnum

[@illsaveuintime]

@@lourensstrydom1502 me. I hate that the hollywood versions are always incorrect

[@leahgrifall4086]

The thing that really annoys me is that they make a really big deal about how Jenny Lind is an opera singer and then she puts on a show singing modern day pop.

[@sarahmorgan4400]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who was so bothered by that...

[@elenaruth47]

Omg saaame! I love 'never enough' but I wanted opera goddammit

[@thaliadimitriou331]

Fucking YES thank you - this bothers me so much

[@daisylee7406]

Yesss finally someone else!

[@quillskillsart]

YES

[@ingrids.3437]

I really wish this movie had been more about the "freaks" working at Barnum's circus and less about a bunch of forced romance between characters that I didn't even really care about

[@aloevera3317]

Including Barnum and his wife lol

[@aloevera3317]

@@derpyhooves3640 _characters I don't care about_

[@xXGamingFishXx]

and that didnt exist

[@derpyhooves3640]

Aloe Vera ok anyways if u do wanna have a breakdown wait for The Greatest Showman II

[@JC_Cali]

I. COMPLETELY. Agree.

[@lo-qo5gq]

I honestly wish this movie foucsed more on the “freak’s” backstories and how they came together.😭

[@thepeopleofrandom4157]

London Jones it shows how they came together but I agree with the first part

[@13wlflvr]

Hopefully the sequel I'm hearing rumors about will focus more on the oddities. There's so many I'd like to meet and see more of!

[@PopeAshhole]

Yea, I even tried Googling them and could only find the main ones. I'm curious about the albinos and the trans! I want to know about ALL of them!!!

[@user-vr5hy5xp8e]

Ashley Christine wait trans? Am I missing something here I did not know one of the ‘freaks’ were trans

[@stockwellsantley6606]

yesyesyesyes! The freaks have so much more 'interesting' potential than the vanilla pudding the film ends up serving us.

[@nameless7838]

6:32 "Does it bother you that everything you're selling is fake?" That's never hurt the porn business.

[@timy9197]

Du dum tss

[@SmashLiXs]

or reality tv

[@bensmum6105]

Gloria Golden thats what she said

[@chelseabrown9907]

that's porn of jesus fucking himself

[@lizzard3434]

I LOVE you!

[@hayden8873]

Yes everyone can sing because it’s a musical... that’s the point

[@jazeliza97]

right

[@thatrandomsquirrel2924]

Okay, but can you imagine a musical where one of the chorus is just terrible and off key all the time?

[@hayden8873]

ThatRandom Squirrel yes... I can imagine... but what’s your point?

[@thatrandomsquirrel2924]

Hayden I just thought it was a funny concept.

[@hayden8873]

ThatRandom Squirrel no lol I don’t think it’s funny. Not funny when you’re in a show and the chorus is shit. It’s embarrassing to say the least

[@kjudasodj2651]

I’ve been reading this movie as the “greatest snowman” :(

[@swirls5000]

Jeremy actually made that joke in "Everything Wrong with The Snowman".

[@itshannah6048]

I would like this but it’s at 69 likes

[@YassiJoon]

Pink Diamond's Pearl OH! WE FREEZE UP WON’T MELT DOWN! AND THE SUN CANT STOP US NOW

[@bryce4395]

I've been doing that for a year lmao

[@Kylesb]

Kate Wilson Elsa would approve 👍🏻

[@kirin1230]

13:16 She doesn't want to be his girlfriend because she's a sellout and wants to be with a "hero." Phillip ran in to save her, that made Anne realise he truly cares about her.

[@imaliteralwreck210]

Cookie completely agree, also zendayas acting in the fire scene and the hospital scenes was immaculate and I was hoping he would remove a sin

[@Drrobverjones]

I was about to come say this. When he sinned this part I was like "Did you even watch the movie?" because that wasn't how it actually happened.

[@aishwaryabhat171]

That's what I thought too. That sin was soooooooo stupid like he was intentionally trying to hate on the movie and Zendaya character

[@tempestinateapot5453]

@@aishwaryabhat171 Dude, that's part of the point of these videos. A good portion of the sins are just straight up jokes or comically misunderstanding the movie on purpose.

[@archer1591]

i would like to point out that it’s just been released that Hugh Jackman is now gonna be playing the Music Man on Broadway. this is a full circle. one sin removed.

[@Bella-ix9tf]

RIP Beetlejuice lmaoo

[@DragonFae16]

Barnum is actually the reason we use the word jumbo to denote something huge. Because of an elephant names Jumbo which was the first African elephant kept in captivity, which he bought from the London zoo. And of course, he claimed Jumbo was the largest elephant in the world, though he was only 24 years old, and male African elephants continue growing into their 40s. Jumbo died about a year later after being sideswiped by a train.

[@matcha8865]

DragonFae16 thats really sad

[@slitherngaming4921]

That is horrible! 🤭

[@yaboigibson3058]

'Sideswiped by a train' WTF! How does that even happen?

[@arcticgachauwu2160]

DragonFae16 u nerd much??? 😐

[@likeastarbaby]

No. I work at London Zoo and Jumbo was named Jumbo and called the largest elephant in the world long before it met P. T. Barnum.

[@lore3098]

If you look closely, you'll notice that Zac Efron's parents (don't remember the character name) were actually going up the stairs into the theatre and turned around when they noticed him. They were not leaving.

[@jipper7156]

When it comes to songs, damn it's good. But when you base it on the actual person.... That's where everything falls apart

[@julienielsen3746]

The music stinks.

[@jipper7156]

@@julienielsen3746 I guess for some people

[@lemondo0]

@@julienielsen3746 eh . thats your opinion but its abit rude lol

[@TheChosen217]

@@julienielsen3746 Your face stinks.

[@marleee.2174]

Yes

[@Lanaboat0333]

“Did she buy her own tree costume and sneak on stage” is one of the best things that has ever been said

[@jfreence7479]

Tbh what the bartender did was amazing, there should’ve been a sin removed xd

[@maddog_27]

IHaveDreams GT yes I was waiting for him to talk about that epic bartender

[@nataliepieterman684]

So true XD

[@hannahacker4633]

IHaveDreams GT yeah but plz don’t try that at home lol

[@lynette0503]

The bar scenes were def the best part of the movie.

[@boneboy3264]

the bartender is my favourite character

[@foxbiscuit]

Despite its flaws, I adored this movie in its entirety. I do agree that something could have been done to make it known what Barnum was REALLY like as opposed to glorifying him. Though, wasn't this movie based on a play of the same name? I don't think it was entirely from scratch.

[@christopherc7322]

I love this movie but Barnum we all know he wasn’t a great person so I feel like the name “The Greatest Show” would be better

[@johnellis7327]

yes it’s based on a broadway musical

[@heyjude6680]

​@@johnellis7327no it isn't lol

[@fluffydumpling4590]

"A Million Dreams Is All It's Going To Take" is in the correct subject verb agreement because the sentence starts off with "a million". Take off a sin for your own misunderstanding of the grammar. Edit: Whoa thanks for the likes guys haha! Didn't know it would get this high!

[@brianvaldini3501]

Fluffy Dumpling wrong, dreams is the subject, the -s and number “million” assume multiplicity, so the article “a” and verb “is” is incorrect because they refer to singularity. The grammar in the song is shit

[@fluffydumpling4590]

Brian Valdini Lol regular kid. Go take AP English and you'll understand where I'm coming from, because it's right.

[@jasonheckenlively1172]

'Ding'

[@Saekochan]

My thoughts exactly!

[@isda_ni_kwan]

well, english is a myth so...

[@tompraeger]

I think the best way to describe "The Greatest Showman" is: a Great Musical but a terrible representation of real life events. I think I'll take the great Musical!

[@Emisop]

Well it wasn't supposed to be historically accurate.

[@DonoZeek]

@@Emisop technically it is.

[@lovatlas]

Agreed

[@BoilingHotTea]

@@DonoZeek It is but completely fails in an attempt to portray Barnum as the hero

[@MrLover2Draw]

Ahmm a real life event

[@Bellas61]

Barnum saying "I'm doing this for Caroline and Helen" has the same energy as Walter White saying "I'm doing this for my family'

[@derpyhooves3640]

_Bella S who is walter white_

[@Bellas61]

@@derpyhooves3640 my uncle

[@derpyhooves3640]

Bella S s-seriously?

[@Bellas61]

@@derpyhooves3640 I'm not sure if you're trolling or serious. But I'll bite. He's from Breaking Bad, the tv show

[@derpyhooves3640]

Bella S oh ok i actually thought he was ur uncle

[@lennonspakousky2104]

Honestly the bartender is the best character, reason: He is actually useful and isn't talking the whole time.

[@pandasquad2750]

How was he useful, and I think that watching a person not talking for a whole spand of movie time would be really boring. 😂

[@cheeeeesepete]

My favorite character. He doesn't speak a word and is still very obviously supportive of Barnum. I dunno, maybe that's just his character, that he's supportive. But I kept getting distracted during The Other Side by how he was in sync with both of them, never got in the way but still managed to play a part in the number. Not to mention he wasn't sinned once.

[@pandasquad2750]

@Anemone_Blue_Shell in the quiet place they did talk, or they used sign language, but even tho they didn't really talk much, the suspense of the movie made up for it.( ͡ ͜ʖ ͡ )

[@sleepinginthecomments.130]

++ he’s a good person 👌🏻👌🏻

[@katyunruh6236]

You forgot to add that they hype Jenny Lind up as an opera singer but when she opens her mouth it's all pop, all the time.

[@chelybeann]

Katy Unruh her song had to be the bomb so they made it something people can sing along to. I can’t sing to opera except for in the shower but catch me singing Never Enough at the top of my lungs 4x a day.

[@0927kira]

Chely Margarita so why did they hype her up as an opera singer?

[@chelybeann]

Robbie Gabito cuz pop didn’t exist yet lmao

[@darrennico8527]

Lol so right. And all so the lighting is pretty amazing for 1860s . And its nice of the bearded lady to shave her armpits so nicely enough said )))

[@WonderlandRefugee]

Which is why cinema sins redubbed her singing "Lucia de Lammermoor" at the end and I started giggling.

[@invisiblesoup8943]

I love this movie but did anyone else notice how many fricking times zac and hugh took off the hats and scarves, then put them back on right after that during “the other side” scene?

[@SkiingWithSam_H_P]

Yes haha

[@ashleyb8807]

Or how great their livers are in that scene......SO MANY SHOTS

[@victoriarenee1993]

invisiblesoup lol before even watching this video me and my friend were talking about this.

[@c0urtneyp307]

I know but it gives a funny and amazing efect they keep on changing their minds to keep the song and going till one on the other makes a deal with each other

[@jill4990]

Yeah haha

[@yellowdisco6081]

Did anybody else notice he said “Jackman and Zacman” 😂

[@misterminutes4504]

Isn't that the same thing 🤔

[@kla7210]

19th century dab just killed me. I am currently dead right now

[@CountryCowboy008]

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[@shariferguson3097]

When the funeral

[@Beeba10]

I just wanna point out that Zefron ran back into the building to save specifically Zendaya. And therefore, she decided that if he was so willing to risk his life to protect her, then he must be serious about her and they could give their relationship a shot. I mean, he did the acrobatics and everything during Rewrite the Stars despite not knowing how just to impress her earlier, but that's obviously not a big enough clue how serious he was about her. Duh XD

[@JohnGoetzGaming]

BeebaLazyVlogs she has EXTEMELY high standards for who she dates. You gotta almost die at least once or you’re not worth it

[@Beeba10]

Son Goku but of course! I mean, that's what I look for in a man.

[@4est...]

I’m sinning CinemaSins for sinning a musical for singing. Say that ten times fast.

[@Chatroom64]

Sinning singing on Cinemasins is sinful. Say that ten times fast.

[@KSS7000]

I’m sinning him bc he sinned this great movie in the first place.

[@rosefragrance9351]

Ummm ok then why ate you here to tell everyone about your un wanted opinions. I Dont know if this is just me but I hated and hate the movie. And was forced to whatch it bu my mother so...

[@4est...]

Runden London Lol damn chill. it’s just a joke. tbh I don’t like the movie either. but ok, be mad on the internet ig

[@bethanyf641]

Thanks

[@_Faizine_]

Me thinking this movie was perfect: You: "we can't have that now can we?"

[@sillygoosetaur]

Yeah the premise fucked up, but the songs and dancing slaps

[@adnerew9843]

the story and music itself are great but unfortunately its completely misconstruing history

[@mm4843]

@@adnerew9843 sooo?

[@justarandomperson345]

@@adnerew9843 I honestly had no idea that this was based on a real story-

[@ishwarithorat8271]

half of these things that are wrong are about the fact that its a musical

[@elenaba7]

He does it with every Musical film and I end up annoyed every time

[@MrLover2Draw]

Whatever you say ! Just enjoy watching greatest showman! Not more fact fact fact wrong wrong! Do you have a abilities to make a perfect movies! Then make it real

[@Tadpole_Plyrr2]

ElephantsLover yeah he even said that there’s no specific way the sins work he just does whatever

[@lalonda-kr5kd]

Elly then don’t watch? Why watch it lol. Many people don’t like musicals and he is one of them and people kept requesting it. What do you expect? Musicals are for people that enjoy theater style movies (you know what I mean) and movies that has good choreography and singing. So if you like it you’ll like the movie. Not many people enjoy it so if you don’t like how people react to musicals don’t watch it

[@lillilo4323]

@@lalonda-kr5kd again it's a LIVE ACTION *MUSICAL*

[@checkitimawesome]

AW COME ON, you couldn't remove a sin for that amazing bartender?

[@MJAYZ007]

He was the real MV0

[@MJAYZ007]

MVP

[@weavesnatched7957]

True

[@m1k3rsk9]

yeach

[@garrettcastleman1239]

or take one away for each fake shot barnum took.

[@Karlecai]

"The brightest colors fill my head," Me: Awwwwww CS: Ecstasy

[@RoyalInspiration]

“Bro, How could you disrespect Rewrite the Stars.”

[@sophiaduran6288]

Ya that's true

[@quitequeerquesadilla]

rewrite the stars and a lot of the other songs in this movie are fucking fantastic and nobody can change my mind

[@darksun.et.al.99]

The song is my life explained Except I'm zac efron So its sad BUT I LOVE IT ANYWAY

[@RoyalInspiration]

@@darksun.et.al.99 same

[@wesleyadolph6273]

"Cause every not night I lie in bed, the brightest colors fill my head" E C S T A C Y *SPITS OUT WATER*

[@jonathanbethards3689]

Not night?

[@LadyTiku]

lol especially since back then it was more likely heroin or cocaine LOL or anyother # of goodies they did regularly back then lol

[@arkwing_7174]

I’m sitting in a room full of people and cHOKED

[@autismo8123]

Perfect timing I read it with the video

[@tara8668]

2:23 Actually, it is referring to the singular noun "million". The word 'dreams' is in a part of a collective noun and is therefore is not the subject to a verb.

[@justabeanpassingthrough8297]

I WANTED SOMEONE TO TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE THANK YOU

[@tara8668]

@@justabeanpassingthrough8297 I only saw this now but yw!

[@danielyarnell1995]

Yeah “A million dreams” is a collective noun so yeah it’s “is”

[@grassj6002]

This is giving me a headache, I'm dumb, I don't understand this LOL

[@starprincessjolie]

huh?

[@JamesCub88]

i watched the wreck it ralph sins video and the guy admitted it was one of his favourite movies. sinning/criticising movies doesn't mean you don't like them or that they're rubbish. it means you're criticising them. there is a difference. also, irony people. chill

[@SamH-px7dh]

Diogo Castro 👏👏

[@StormcloudLive]

his complaints about this movie are mostly about the real character and some of his life story, basically the bad portions of it. Very little of this video is actually about the film that was shown it's like if every sin in the lord of the rings movies was "the book was better" it's pointless and just boring after the 3rd or 4th instance of it.

[@shiningdragoon120]

I personally feel like he was overly harsh on the film

[@evai5318]

@@StormcloudLive IT'S A JOKE CHANNEL YOU FUCKING BRICK

[@Maybe_a_lemon]

Are we going to ignore the fact that at the beginning of the movie the “midget soldier’s” name was Charles then towards middle his name was Tom, I say SIN it

[@talatalk8007]

They never explain it but the actual person the character is based off of was given the stage name "General Tom-Thumb" so that's probably why

[@justsomeunicornwithinterne6490]

This movie was created over a period of 7 years

[@welldamnjackie1320]

I think his name was Charles but the name of his act for the circus was Tom Thumb. Aka Tom Thumb was his stage name.

[@gamefredgonzalez5678]

If it ain’t the same, put it down the drain

[@Panda72021]

Charles Sherwood Stratton was his real name (he actually existed), but his stage name was 'General Tom Thumb'. He was extremely young when he started working for Barnum, and died of a stroke when he was only 45.

[@semanticsamuel936]

(Not so) fun fact: Chang and Eng, the original Siamese twins, retired from the freak show business and later became slave-owning plantation workers themselves. Funny how exploitation breeds exploitation.

[@crasykills4718]

Semantic Samuel it was a sccesfull busness practice if you could pull it off sadly

[@cloudbasedbear]

wel that's sad

[@sigilyph_with_a_gun1184]

Just because society thinks that you're a freak doesn't mean that you aren't going to be an asshole to other people who society also dislikes.

[@TheRazorTongue]

That's depressing.

[@tryandsaycecili]

I'm surprised there wasn't a sin for the Opera singer not singing ANY Opera whatsoever in this whole fking movie. That was my absolute biggest pet peeve in the whole movie. Otherwise I loved the music and the movie

[@user-oq6ol5fi2w]

Cecili T THANK YOU THAT BOTHERED ME SO MUCH

[@alpacawithouthat987]

Cecili T She was singing opera from the point of view of the characters, it was just different from our points of view so that it would be a bigger hit with modern society. Didn’t you notice the other songs would not be sung in that time period either?

[@tryandsaycecili]

TheDeadlyMedley well my thing is not that's it's periodically inaccurate it's that everyone in the movie "classified" her for Opera and I was expecting an opera style song to come from her and I honestly wouldn't have minded I was looking forward to it.

[@lilywong1420]

you never said that the little girl got on pointe shoes right away, even though in the real world ballerinas have to train for 5 or 6 years before being strong enough to go on pointe.

[@eller3794]

FR THATS WHAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT WHEN WATCHING THE MOVIE but no one cares to learn or go in depth w ballet

[@m4rsmalade]

As an actual ballerina, I can in fact confirm you have to train for years and years to even relevé on pointe. Even after that, it takes another year or two to do more advanced things like pirouettes on pointe. Your ankles would probably immediately snap after going up on pointe if you put them on without years of practice. You also might not even be able to go up on pointe at all without building up the strength in your ankles.

[@lilywong1420]

Art by a Mushroom yes, i am an actual ballerina as well lol.

[@m4rsmalade]

lily wong oh that's so cool!!! I really dislike how movies always make it seem like you can put on some pointe shoes and immediately be perfect at ballet. Or just sit down and immediately be in the splits with no effort. Very annoying haha

[@katsharp7500]

THANK YOU SOMEONE ELSE WHO ACKNOWLEDGES IT

[@MythicaIl]

Is that wolverine, Zendaya, and high school musical

[@derpyhooves3640]

AXOLOTL yesss

[@jeffreypierson2064]

"High School Musical" had a better script.

[@definitely.natasha]

Also, young Hugh Jackman steals bread... did he learn nothing from les mis?

[@nelleb9863]

pink unicorn rainbow sunshine I love this comment so much.

[@natashablade8574]

He did learn something. "I own a factory not a circus" He fixed that.

[@lus6media]

I just re watched Les Mes and when I heard that line, I laughed for about 15 minutes.

[@salazarslytherin9521]

Haha

[@CIDILIABRA]

Facts. *-he also sung a lot better there too but-* *-I'mma be quiet-*

[@mahennatockenstein2929]

Ok I don't care how much I love a movie, you guys still find a way to make me laugh at it!

[@beeman2075]

I think CinemaSins giving a humorous (and good natured) ribbing to a movie I love makes me enjoy this movie even more! Greatest Showman was one of the most entertaining musicals I've seen in a few years.

[@Marc.c03]

People are getting offended af in the comments 😂 they can’t accept humour

[@michellereyes9624]

Mahenna Tockenstein OmG sooo true o love this Movie but o can't denny this is amazing

[@ivfhdb8oyrewg]

Mahenna Tockenstein HA nice 😀

[@brendenthefilmmaker4563]

"A Million Dreams IS all it's gonna take", is actually right. That's a mistake for you . :)

[@AC-my2bg]

Thank you, that was bugging me, too. It threw me at first, but the true subject is "million." Whichever is technically correct, people usually don't say "a million are."

[@erinjackson8119]

“Million” is the adjective not the subject. The subject in that sentence is “dreams”. The reason why is that “a” is an article and “million” is an adjective (as previously mentioned) and in the English language adjectives and articles can’t be subjects. So that would mean the wrong verb was used since million can’t be a subject (I have an English teach for a father)

[@jeremymiller1846]

I think in this case "a million dreams" is a singular collective noun phrase. But "a million somethings" isn't ALWAYS a singular collective noun. One would say "a million dreams are in my head," not "a million dreams is in my head," because in this case it is not a singular collective noun. "Dreams" is the noun, and "a million" is an adjective describing how many dreams there are. However, "a million somethings" can definitely be a singular collective sometimes. It would be correct to say "a million dollars is the price," because "price" is singular and the noun phrases have to agree. In the sentence in question, "is" is a linking verb joining "a million dreams" and "all it's gonna take," so the real question here is whether "all it's gonna take" is singular or plural. "All" can be either, so we have to examine the rest of the phrase to know for sure. "It" is singular, which suggests the entire phrase is singular. But that analysis is somewhat shaky, in my opinion. In conclusion, despite having studied comparative grammar and having earned a Bachelor of Arts Degree in English, I can't say for sure what the right answer is. What I can say is that our grammatical rules are intended to allow us as English speakers to communicate without disagreeing on what our words or phrases mean. In my opinion, the difference between "a million dreams is" and "a million dreams are" is negligible, because both phrases are unambiguous enough as to not cause any confusion to the hearer. So as far as I'm concerned, the answer is "it doesn't matter." And that means it qualifies as a sin.

[@alexandertristano2640]

@@jeremymiller1846 Dude you wrote three fucking paragraphs. You should have just said it's a fucking sin. However I think the real sinner is the English language because of how extra and confusing it's grammar is.

[@Nico-py4mx]

@@alexandertristano2640 please don't ever think about learning german... we germans love to speak english simply because of how... simple the grammar is :D

[@rainestorme25]

8:26 Well, yeah. Thats the point. The movie is trying to show you how he forgot about his origins and is slowly becoming more and more lie everyone else. But eventually he sees what happened, and he understands who brought him to where he ie now. The line you said here is literally the conflict, its intentional

[@deliriousmusicality8840]

Wow. The CinemaSins guy *really* hates candles for some reason XD

[@idfk5063]

I KNOWWW🤣🤣

[@derpyhooves3640]

*_xD_*

[@indigoluna7374]

Where were those " freak staying? When he was in his expensive extreamly candle lit room?

[@taif21981]

If you watch the scene in the bar closely. Jackman isn't drinking the shots poured. Zacman on the other hand. All the shots. Edit. Jackman has one shot.

[@lasersexpanther6631]

And that shot wasn't even full

[@bobthedisapprovingtomato6470]

it's because it's easier to strike a deal with a semi drunk person, then a sober person

[@JarodMoonchild1975]

@@bobthedisapprovingtomato6470 *Than 😒

[@7northwest652]

You commented on the impossible physics of the jump and catch during the rewrite the stars scene but that was a real stunt they practiced forever

[@banditoburrito9719]

HalfaBakedPotato yeah, I saw a clip of it on some video.

[@brinmoody]

He was commenting on the fact that no one let lose the sandbags which would have pulled her up into the air, not the jump. No one was around to release that sandbag, but yet it still fell.

[@BrutePowerPunk95]

10:50 he's talking about the jump

[@theperfectgirl]

No he was talking about the movie

[@HomageToBo]

thats not what op is referring to though. in the video he states "if i wasnt asleep already i'd say something about the physics of that jump and catch we just saw." not talking about what he had already pointed out what you are saying. the jump and catch was a real stunt they did. again, not referring at all to what you are (i think) i could be wrong tho.

[@namjoonslefttiddie1584]

13:16 If you actually watched the movie, Phillip ran into the fire because he thought Anne was stuck in there. He ran in, risking his life to save her, and *thats* what allowed her to truly fall in love with him. I'm sorry the way you sinned that scene was upsetting.

[@nachonandandyravage1121]

9:58 actually the parents were’nt actually leaving the theatre, earlier you could see them walking up the stairs and then turning around to see the pair

[@marvaperry2738]

U r so right I noticed that too😝😝😝😝

[@DivaDreamWeaver]

Thank you!

[@Scamper10]

Gonna be that one idiot but: *weren't

[@marksilla8276]

19th Century dabbing. LMAO

[@stephanierobson1535]

Yeah and btw it’s in the 1800s

[@hector_number1281]

Stephanie Robson that is the 19th century

[@therandomchococat]

I can't take that part seriously anymore 😂

[@mandkwolfe]

ROTFL

[@goldenwitherphoenix1389]

The only dabbing I will except.

[@SarahBecks713]

5:56 It's Professor Harold Hill, not Henry 9:38 Paris Green was an extremely vibrant shade of green created with copper and arsenic. It was super popular during this time period before they discovered how terrible it was for your skin. It's actually one of the more accurate costume things in this movie.

[@shanewinsten1846]

Sarah Carman I noticed that to

[@roguishpaladin]

I look forward to that Goodfellas/Music Man crossover movie.

[@UncleJimmi_ID]

Copper and Arsenic?!? Jesus Christ...

[@piratetoast53]

Just like how there are so many accounts of women dying of 'broken hearts' during times of mourning, when they were just slowly being poisoned in the arsenic in the black dye (I think it was arsenic... it may have been something else)

[@rucket2674]

Well the more y'know.

[@Cllocopine]

The music in this movie is actually amazing, and I wanted you to remove more sins for that, but then I remembered how all the music is totally wasted on a plot that isn’t that interesting in a movie that is glorifying someone who in real life was a bad person, and claiming to be telling his story. I would’ve loved this movie if it was told from literally ANY other character’s perspective than Barnum himself. Or they could’ve just made the whole thing fictional and not a representation of something in real life. It could be more like a fairytale of how the first circus came to be and the main characters could be actual good guys... Anyway, sorry that this turned into a rant, my point is; great music was wasted on a mediocre (at best) and controversial movie.

[@uhsup1158]

“Holy sh*t that song made her pregnant “ I died 😂😂😂

[@hktrueblood]

When I saw the scene I was like "holy sh*t she's preggers"

[@mbuhajla]

Victoria Santana omg Cinema sins you are a big fat liar

[@JackSmith-lj7tc]

When I was watching this scene my dad said this is what happens when u can dance

[@thepeopleofrandom4157]

That sin made no sense

[@joeiorio9654]

I honestly thought this movie was called the "greatest snowman". Coming 2017, is the worst horror movie ever, starring PT barnum as getting revenge on those who spit on his show by decapitaring them

[@domehammer]

Its not the Greatest Snowman? ....I didn't realize.

[@thechocolatearmor5797]

I wanna watch the greatest snowman now. For the snowman ninjas, of course.

[@kutip1027]

This is a story, not a biography about Barnum. Barnum was just used as a shell to tell a story about a showman and his struggles that has an amazing soundtrack.

[@rckblzr]

Even then, I thought the story was pretty cliche and average. It followed the narrative of a guy who starts out as a nobody who wants to be somebody, finally makes his way into the world, becomes the type of person he hates while also alienating his friends and family, and then realizes he had everything he ever needed in the end. The music was indeed incredible though.

[@kyuven]

The question I have then, is why Barnum? Why not go whole hog and make a fictional character? A lot of the film's baggage could be forgotten if you did something like that.

[@ryanwhy9270]

kyuven I also thought that too lol

[@Colaaah]

Well said

[@kutip1027]

@@kyuven It was easy. also there is already a barnum musical so they know it worked.

[@micaervin8782]

9:35 greens became popular during the Victorian era because they added arsenic to dyes and paint and it made them more vibrant than previously possible, the colouring on her dress is perfectly accurate

[@alfalafelstine1536]

This movie had potential. If they didn't censor it, added a lot more depth to all the storylines, and included some moral dark sides, it would have been good. I understand it is a musical, but all character development and conflicts were resolved through cheerful singing, which left the story hollow.

[@MexicanJoker1234]

Soviet Wanderer as you said it was a musical, musicals are never about the plot or character development because it mainly just serves to create a setting for an aesthetic scene filled with cheerful songns

[@mighty-roman]

Quick question. Are you a fan of marvel or dc universe? Yah, you're right - doing all those things would've made the movie more memorable but I'm glad they didn't do it. This movie was light and fun and I prefer that more.

[@moosenman]

Look Outside... *aggressively points to Hamilton, dear Evan Hansen, and heathers*

[@leatherandparchmentaudios]

Look Outside... Uh what? Lol. Clearly you don't know much about musicals...

[@jackhill9803]

Strange thing is, if this film was historically accurate and was dark af, it would've been hell of allot more interesting and engaging. Could even go for a dark comic route, something Tarantino-esc.

[@pineapplefrostyfruits9225]

and people would complain about it being too grim and non-friendly to young adults or kids. They'd say that the main character is an asshole who is encouraging people to be racist and bigoted.

[@p.bsandwitch6484]

^ And those people would be wrong. I'd take edgy over bland any day.

[@pineapplefrostyfruits9225]

P.B Sandwitch Fair, you're allowed your opinion. I'm just stating the fact that people will always complain, no matter what you do.

[@p.bsandwitch6484]

Yeah I know, and that's correct. But I think people would be inclined to defend it if it makes for a really good movie.

[@pineapplefrostyfruits9225]

RPGMaster Exactly. This is Hollywood. If they where going to have a main character at all, he must be seen as in the right. Or if P.T. was the villain? Remains faceless, never mentioned having a family, unknown actor playing him ... Only in Hollywood is the world truly *just* black and white.

[@talkingoveryoupodcast]

you forgot that the “world famous opera singer” DOESNT EVEN SING OPERA! SHES LITERALLY NOT EVEN SINGING OPERA!

[@JohnGoetzGaming]

Kate Ravenscroft maybe she’s famous for opera but that’s not what Barnam asked her to do

[@rachelsmith244]

I think part of her not singing opera was that Barnum was trying to make her seem more American and appeal to Americans. So he probably decided it was better for her to sing a different type of song.

[@peterackerman2799]

Think OP was referring to the fact that the Jenny Lind in the movie wasn't singing opera? The original Jenny Lind was part of why Opera came to the US in the first place, or so I've read.

[@SWISIDNIAK]

That upset me so much. World famous soprano opera singer. Sings a generic modern pop ballad. Better yet the actress wasn't the one singing, someone else's voice was dubbed over and the singer was an alto not a soprano. Just, yikes guys the one chance to put in an actual period-fitting song and you failed.

[@sweetyetunrefined9335]

I *LOVED* this movie, but that bit bothered me so badly. That wasn't even close to opera, it was a pop ballad

[@ItsRailfanAmelia]

Thank Goodness he removed a sin for “This Is Me”... I would have strongly disagreed if he sinned that song... That is an amazing song!

[@verdeverde2763]

Best song in the 🎦 my fave song of this 🎦 and Zac efron is hooooot

[@SarahKellett]

One big thing I like about watching Everything Wrong series is that I basically get to see what the movie really is like.

[@mundaneamazing]

The only thing I liked about this video is that it convinced me I was right to never watch this movie.

[@astupefiedsteve4305]

Sarah Cain Pls tell me ur joking

[@filmnationstudios389]

You're dumb

[@Krosstic]

Sarah Cain You guys are fucking dumbasses, this sins video COMPLETELY FUCKS THE MOVIE, this movie is awesome...

[@ZoanBlade90]

You get to see PART of whatbthe movie is like. I like these too, but there have been times in the past when they were wrong about something, or just give it that particular sin for the sake of jokes. I still like watching these, just take it with a grain of salt.

[@Michael-oc1qw]

"The Greatest Showman" or as it should have been called "What If P.T. Barnum Wasn't A Terrible Person: The Movie"

[@biancalovesdisney]

MisterZed EXACTLY

[@melindacervone949]

MisterZed he was a good guy tho

[@PetProjects2011]

I dunno, I still thought he was kind of an asshole in the film, like when he didn't let the performers into the fancy party, leading to the This Is Me song.

[@lancethedecayedguardian2719]

Melinda Cervone He most certainly was not, the dude paid people to watch an autopsy about a dead woman in his show who was supposedly 180 years old and turns out she wasn't 180 and he just conned everyone of their money, that ain't really something a "good person" would do

[@Mooncrest0]

Melinda Cervone he definitely lost what he was going for throughout the movie but I don’t understand why everyone thinks he was a horrible person...

[@chingchowder4596]

I almost choked on my water when he turned the camera and said "holy shit that song made her pregnant"

[@Katie-ph7zb]

Same XD

[@sanna9062]

Turned the camera?

[@halle5107]

“A” million dreams- is the reason is says “is” because she’s referring to the millions and not the dreams 😎

[@BeccaBender37]

a million is still more than one and therefore should still have a multiplied adverb

[@madidason3574]

​@@BeccaBender37 No, it shouldn't. "Million" is, in this situation, being categorized as a singular noun. Both are grammatically correct, but only one properly fits the situation: the one that the 80 million dollar mainstream Disney movie got correct--not you, or the cash-grabbing, 40-year-old, exploitative degenerate narrating this video.

[@samucabrabo]

@@madidason3574 your comment is freaking awesome.

[@largeandmildlythreateningr2966]

Why did no one point out pt stole bread which the other hugh jackman musical lead (jean valjean) did rather iconically

[@AdonisGaming93]

Probably one of my favourite movies, even though it might not be accurate as to his intentions and personality but it's such a great musical in my opinion.

[@ThighFish]

The music is definitely amazing.

[@suwikz]

Exactly my thoughts

[@drums4life937]

Finally a good comment

[@drums4life937]

Sherwin Celeste that’s your opinion but I think it’s an amazing movie.

[@drums4life937]

Sherwin Celeste hm. Well I’ve seen the movie exactly 30 times and haven’t seen much of cringe in it but maybe that’s just me

[@ParasolMushroomStudios]

If they can get away with Anastasia and Pocahontas being brutally inaccurate they can do this too. Fun video all the same! :D

[@thorstensyring4756]

The movies you mentioned as well as this here do not claim to be historically accurate. :) They are fantasy movies :)

[@danykonno]

Agreed, the diference is that they are better movies, like, in my opinion the greatest showman didnt work out the characters that well, you know? Like, they didnt focus on the more interesting things, just the meh ones

[@girthicusmaximus]

and this movie never claimed to be historically accurate its a fucking musical

[@hata6290]

no shit

[@onceuponastarwarstheory8406]

Don’t expect a musical to be historically accurate

[@LadyOnikara]

So, that eliminates Mamma Mia and Sweeney Todd as documentaries?

[@coralineparmentierworldpianist]

You didn't say which movie will be sinned next week. But with Black Panther released on Blu-Ray today, I have hope (but maybe it's still too early for this one)

[@martitzm7065]

I guess he will sin Black Panther the week Ant-Man and the Wasp is released

[@davidmedrano9148]

neamiah donnell it’s not that serious

[@TheBlackAntagonist]

David Medrano When white people get attacked in broad daylight by mind of black black panther fans, I think this indeed serious.

[@sombodi200]

neamiah donnell You're a spineless basement dweller who I don't believe is a black man. That story was proven faked by many official sources. Maybe go in the natural light one day and have an actual conversation with a black person instead of learning everything you know about them from fox news and fake internet stories. It may turn out nice.

[@TheBlackAntagonist]

sombodi200 Is a black man who hates what his race has become so impossible to a single minded, self centered sheep like yourself that you'd react like a 10 year old basket case?

[@londonbrigid3617]

Flop doodle actually was an insult. ...I looked it up.

[@muffet746]

London Brigid an unintelligent person acting with idiocy and silly (yeh I looked it up to lol,)

[@micahphilson]

"There's a sucker born every minute" wasn't actually PT Barnum's quote, it was one of his competitors', after Barnum one-upped him with the whole petrified man spectacle he completely fabricated. Otherwise, yes, you're right on every account. Though his "exhibits" were payed extremely handsomely for the time.

[@micahphilson]

If you ever see a famous old quote, something about it is almost always misquoted, at least when it's become a saying in common speech like this one has. As well as "Separation of church and state" (so many mix-ups with that one) and "You can't eat your cake and have it too".

[@SupergirlFaisa]

Micah Philson i know general thumb was paid very well. But did he pay the slaves or people k8dnapped into the circus ...

[@cheerchic9900]

Micah Philson i

[@cjh150487]

Despite being an exploitative asshole in most general terms, Barnum actually did pay all of his performers well for the time and far more than they would have received outside of the circus. He was also reputedly a fierce campaigner for equality and civil rights during his tenure in politics, exclaiming that "every soul was equal under God. (or words to that effect, you'd have to look up the actual quote.) He was also famous for exposing frauds and charlatans and hated people who falsely prayed on peoples feelings like soothsayers and psychics. I'm not defending what he did, he exploited the vulnerable and lower classes of the time for personal fame and fortune but considering that pretty much describes every business owner in the 1800's, he did try to at least balance the scales a bit as well given the time he lived.

[@drewwesely8853]

He never had any slaves or kidnapped people in his shows or circus. Joyce Heth wasn't a slave when Barnum toured with her act, her compensation was that she received constant care which she required as a blind paralyzed elderly woman. Without someone like Barnum, or the show producer before him which he bought her act from, she would have been in severe trouble.

[@YassiJoon]

Him: why not go visit? Me: its a girl only school...Guys (other than that mail guy) are forbidden, pretty much :/

[@cz10506]

3:52 Would you say they.............missed the elephant in the room? I'll see myself out.

[@TheVGC]

I am mad at myself for laughing at that.

[@music4ever159]

Wait no come back

[@ZUIKMedia]

YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!

[@jacobcolton3828]

Just watch out for the Elephant

[@geekfreak1828]

Not Carlie no. No stay

[@MisterFerv]

One of those Sins is false... "Is" is being used in relation to "A Million;" singular. "A Million is." A million what? "Dreams." Love these vids. However, if you're going to be nit-picky, then reap it.

[@blazinchaos1991]

Mister Ferv thank you!!!

[@nigerianprincess101]

This movie is sinful as shit, however, I believe Anne decided to be with Carlisle because she realized after almost losing him that she cared about him too much to care about society’s opinion. Additionally he did risk his life to try and save hers

[@dalmallama4634]

Fact: the elephants at Barnum and baileys are terribly abused. Their spirits are broken so they are just puppets. Sad really 😔

[@gracieutz1490]

No actually they are treated really well at circus's than a zoo. They treat them very well and no "spirit" Is broken you're like the Theveganteacher

[@dalmallama4634]

@@gracieutz1490 No. It’s already been proven that circuses. Especially Barnum and baileys have horrible treatment for animals. And I’m not like that vegan teacher. Because I’m not vegan, I agree with zoos, hate peta, can’t play the ukulele and I’m a male.

[@mariepurser3130]

@@dalmallama4634 "I can't play the ukulele" Neither can she.

[@dalmallama4634]

@@mariepurser3130 Class man!😂👏🏻

[@chizzlebizzle1150]

@@mariepurser3130 class my guy

[@brickbreck]

I miss the old Cinema Sins where they actually criticized the ACTUAL movie points/plot holes and not historical accuracy or things that are obviously meant for creativity.

[@bluebay1031]

@Alex The Awsome not really if its inspired by history and not based on it, but okay

[@plaguemaster308]

@Alex The Awsome it based of it. And the inaccuracy is not that hard to find so I don't think it should be mentioned. It suppose to be entertainment not a documentary that has a pace of 300 page school textbook. I prefer it not history accurate.

[@bluebay1031]

@Alex The Awsome Im pretty sure its just inspired by it, not a historical fiction movie

[@marleee.2174]

I get that this is a fictional movie and not a documentary about P.T. Barnum but it still is important to remain somewhat historically accurate (maybe correct is the word). They made P.T. Barnum seem like this hopelessly misguided guy who just needs to learn a lesson about friendship when in reality he was actually really corrupt

[@PaulaSB12]

Exactly when PJ Barnum opened his circus his youngest child was 25 his oldest was 38 so what growing up did he need to do?

[@Ravethecat12]

I like how people are crying “Why are you being mean?!” And “There’s nothing wrong with this movie!” Everything has flaws if you enjoy the movie good on you but this channel is all about nitpicking. You clicked the video knowing what the title said so you can’t be that salty.

[@tra12048]

People do this in every Cinema Sins video. That's why you should never take these comments seriously XD

[@OpalEssenceOfficial]

James Channel SAMMY YOU'RE STILL ALIVE!?

[@riacena2866]

*_PREACH_*

[@kasaizor]

Ravethecat12 this shit was funny as hell

[@chloeevans6510]

Ravethecat12 I agree with you and I'm a KZbin

[@Hellooo134]

Honestly this would be better if the protagonist was one of the "freaks" and showed how they were exploited by Barnum. More accurate to history.

[@iamokayiswear]

not the purpose, premise or thought behind the movie. Hugh Jackman wanted to make a musical, and specifically wanted a musical based on Barnum, pushing the idea for almost 10 years. The purpose was not to make a documentary, or be based on a true story, nor was it marketed to be such. It was made to bring back the Musical Genre in movies, by focusing on the singing, soundtrack and cast, the story is not the point of the movie, but is simply a part of it.

[@lizzieseeley9871]

But that's not about the movie that's about the actual story

[@iamokayiswear]

Lizzy, Jackman wanted to make the movie, the overall movie took priority over the story. Hugh wanted a fun movie, and a movie like that would not be a fun movie musical... in any sense.

[@lizzieseeley9871]

TheLoneKnight exactly. That's why it isn't historically accurate. This movie isn't a documentary and this video is really dramatic.

[@rhysspeight7142]

TheLoneKnight if this is the template for new musical movies for the years to come then that's fucking awful "The story is not the point of the movie" then what's the point in watching it? This movie is a mess, has horrendous dialogue and pacing, and god help the musical movie business if this is the new archetype.

[@stephenrose8300]

Sins should have been removed each time there was a musical number or choreography. I can understand sinning the story or the real life person, but this was a beautiful movie.

[@aloevera3317]

The major historical inaccuracies, A Million Dreams lasting for a million years, and the fact that Come Alive and This is Me are basically the same song were the major sins that prevented me from enjoying this movie. I was also comparing it to Les Misearables.

[@krisb.1565]

When this movie came out I had just suffered a major loss. I decided to go to the theater to get my mind off of it and asked the ticket person to recommend something that would make me forget about the troubles of life. She chose this movie. I had seen part of a trailer before going in. During the song A Million Dreams I cried my eyes out. I don’t exactly know what it was about the song but it made me so sad but also so much more hopeful about my future. So yeah. The movie had its flaws. It’s definitely glorifying PT Barnum. But the songs and the stories behind them made this the beloved classic that it is. People are still listening to these songs today. That’s what OP was talking about. I feel bad for anyone who can’t see this.

[@aloevera3317]

@Sarah Collins That's the problem. Les Miserables was fantastic. Because Hugh Jackman was the lead in this musical, I was expecting the same level of period piece accuracy + social commentary + musical variety + execution of singing all lines that Les Mis had to offer.

[@kare-n]

"now he's just an everyday producer" that's literally the point of that scene

[@greisen3134]

CinemaSins, also you forgot to mention the opera singer never once sung Opera.

[@elucified]

Amen to this comment. He criticizes this movie for all the ridiculous petty things like singing in what is very obviously a MUSICAL kind of movie, but completely misses the fact that the opera singer never sang opera. Tbh that still bothers me to this day. They spend a while building up all this anticipation that it's some amazing opera singer and the performance itself isn't even sung in opera style. What the heck?!

[@afgal9726]

I said this exact thing when we watched the movie.

[@lostagain9386]

elucified exactly. I actually legitimately hated that. It didn't even have to be REAL opera, just somthing similar, but no

[@mariabee7064]

aZTLÁN qUETZAL very true i liked her singing but if her character is an opera singer make her sing opera or change actor who can

[@caseyvaught4605]

Rebecca Ferguson didn't even do her own singing for this film, so changing actors wouldn't be necessary, just singers.

[@jujuliette147]

The thing that mostly put me off about the movie was the timeline, one second he's struggling with money and the next he buys a gigantic completely run down house and manages to find the money to rebuild it in a few weeks? Then they meet the queen, he tours for god knows how long, comes back and his daughters haven't aged a day???

[@drawqonic]

Juliette Maes The bank loaned them $10,000, if you don't remember. As the museum isn't working for them, he gets inspired to make it into a circus in about a weeks time, maybe less. The circus is very, very successful. So yes, that can happen in a few months.

[@Howlingburd19]

Juliette Maes I thought the pacing of this movie was very poor, and that really bothered me to be honest.

[@JulieWallis1963]

Juliette Maes did you make some the part when he got the *huge bank loan* ?

[@jess8847]

Because it's a musical for loads of stupid teenagers in this generation, no one gives a damn about the timeline.

[@laurengeddes4103]

He had to sail to Britain to meet the queen too which would have been at least 30 days on a boat in the 1800s haha

[@jazmin7640]

To add to the bar scene, if you pay attention, a lot of the shots Barnum is taken his glass is either empty, half full, or he doesnt take them at all. While he was on the piano, he wasnt actually playing, thats why he shut it when the Zac Effron's charayer looked at it, so he wouldn't notice it was a self playing piano. He also didnt take the shot, he left once the other guys back was turned.

[@NewMessage]

'Dog boy milk' is going to be worked into my daily lexicon.. I swear it.

[@CreativeName-rz8ow]

New Message I've seen you over at Stephen Colbert.

[@MarcelinoToysExpress]

New Message will

[@MarcelinoToysExpress]

Honestly this show makes me hate this show. I get it, it’s a joke and it’s supposed to be good natured but sorry can’t get into it it’s a fun movie and this channel shits on all the movies.

[@stephennixon1755]

Shut up everyone thinks it fine

[@darkwokfy5969]

Excatly

[@DisneyDuckEnthusiast]

I'm finding a very interesting combination of people outright hating the film and others who just love this thing to pieces. It was okay. It wasn't amazing, it wasn't utter crap, it was okay. I liked some of the songs but it felt like there were too many stories being told all at once. It was hard to find Barnum a sympathetic character when he took advantage of basically everyone, it was hard to feel for his wife when she was just there for the ride, I felt sympathy for his children and some of the circus performers. The Zendaya/Efron thing was just...weird. I don't need to see it again.

[@iZumba247]

Disney Duck Enthusiast The only thing I really liked about the movie was its spectacular cinematography. I would watch a video where all the dialogue scenes are cut out and it’s just the music and camera shots and colors and lighting. But that’s basically the only good thing about it. Everything else was pretty bad

[@boopboppboo]

Yup. Well said. Mediocre film, just sort of middle ground. There’s nothing really to dwell on.

[@thecarpeteer4107]

I thought it was great, but I can definitely see the mistakes. The run time's really short for a musical, but putting an intermission in a movie would send everyone walking out and no intermission would be horrible in a three hour movie. If it were on Broadway, I can see the many storylines working. As for the music, it's good in the moment, but (besides Never Enough and This is Me), I just can't listen to it outside the movie. I have plenty of musical music downloaded on my phone, but this one didn't make the cut. Maybe it's because it, like a lot of game music, was written perfectly for the moment. Heck, The Other Side was my favorite song when I was watching. The choreography is phenomenal and the singing is great, and I think that's what saved it.

[@spencerwoods3404]

The relationship made me uncomfortable because Efron is in his mid-thirties and Zendaya isn’t even 20.

[@Chocolatel0vr]

Uh Zac Efron is only 30 and Zendaya is 21. Where did you get your information?

[@Jah_LEASE_yah]

P.T Barnum might have exploited people with disabilities but he also made them rich AF. look it up. He paid his performers a lot of money and turned them into celebrities. During his time there was literally no place in society for people who had the kind of physical disabilities that you saw in his shows. There were no discrimination laws that protected the disabled so there was no options for employment for them and many of them were poor and destitute before they met PT Barnum. additionally, the show brought people together with similar life experiences, which formed a community of people who, before they were essentially isolated from society. Obviously exploiting people with disabilities and capitalizing on controversy, is offensive and opportunistic but PT wasn't the cut and dry villain that this video is trying to make him out to be and her certainly did not enslave his performers.

[@crownofeunoia1907]

It might be later on in life, but he definitely exploited loopholes of anti-slavery laws to keep his first act, the women who was supposedly 160 years old, enslaved to him until she died. And the part he had a public autopsy of her remains was true as well. I have some criticism about this video but CS was spot on about that.

[@crownofeunoia1907]

Elly O oh wow, do you really think that someone literally owning a slave is kindness? Like you are seriously thinking that. Never mind he made her death a gross spectacle. That isn’t a sign of someone being kind to anyone, sorry to say. And the one with the rose colored glasses about the past is you. You can not own a person and be kind. If you seriously think she had full consent, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell ya.

[@akaneriyun4774]

Ariel R At the time they existed, yes. It was kindness. The people of the past aren't as butthurt and weak-minded as the people of today.

[@crownofeunoia1907]

Ryan Maliwat There was no such thing as a kind slave master because slavery is inherently abusive, fam. Your faulty logic falls apart that Barnum had to exploit a legal loophole to own Joice Heth because SLAVERY WAS ILLEGAL in the states he was working in. Nevermind that there was no evidence she saw any money despite working 10-12 days as a disabled, frail 80ish year old woman. Just because he kept her clothed and bathed doesn’t mean he was kind. So you can kindly shove that “butthurt” comment because it’s obvious you know nothing about history.

[@akaneriyun4774]

Ariel R Faulty logic is passing judgement on a past historical event based on contemporary morals. There is a give or take 100 or so year gap between our world and PT Barnum's. Therefore it is grossly unfair and faulty to apply the current standards upon a person who has been over a hundred years dead.

[@Ro-gp8lj]

When you realize that hes going to the actual history of PT Barnum instead of sinning the actual movie because this movie is flawless

[@mccookies3664]

3:37 Actually, fopdoodle was an insult from the period that meant a clumsy or stupid person. Ding.

[@ashyylyyn]

Ah good googling skills. You do realize basically everything on the internet is fake?

[@mccookies3664]

Tacosareyummy Yeah, but I'm not going far below the level of this channel. Obviously, it was probably never a common thing, but I do think it existed, and I do think that at least a small amount of preliminary Googling is better than just a feeling that it didn't exist. At least I have some source. But granted, the goal of this channel is comedy, not education, so this is just needless nitpicking at this point.

[@kasonsmith5599]

Fopdoodle! It exists because Tacosareyummy exists.

[@howiej820]

Fopdoodle isn’t the same as Flop doodle...

[@mccookies3664]

He heard wrong.