Everything Wrong With The Rock In 17 Minutes Or Less

[@WhisperingDeath]

This movie was peak Michael Bay. Action scenes are plentiful and clearly shot, cinematography is gorgeous, and each beat of the plot is laid out simply to move the audience from one action scene to the next.

[@wilorwill]

That sucks you didn't have the original version of The Rock. Before it was edited out, the good guys were detected entering the prison and the line that has forever stuck with me was said by a bad guy, "We have penetration in the shower room." When I saw it at the theater, most of the guys in the audience (including me) burst out laughing...which is probably why they removed it...

[@eriksorin2860]

Omfg😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@reclaimingfire7903]

whoah that was cut ? here in australia that version is just *the rock* ahah

[@shriharihudli]

Appropriate response: "Looks like someone dropped the soap."

[@bigdode]

Curious, the version I have had the line, "we have motion on the trembler in the shower room, sir. We've got visitors". Did that line make it into your version?

[@wilorwill]

I saw it when it first came out in theaters. So I guess that is the original version.

[@whorcares123]

12:58 Actually, because of the unpredictability of the mixture of TNT, RDX, gunpowder, and other explosives commonly used in hand grenades, the military trains you to never, ever "cook" your grenade. The system aims for detonation to occur 4 seconds after release. This gives the soldier time to hurl it in a direction. However, there have been cases of grenades having a shorter fuse due to things like a manufacturing error, environmental conditions, and how the chemical compounds come to rest in the casing. Not to mention, in a combat situation, a person's perception of time may be affected. Thus, cooking your grenade is not a good idea, neither is picking up one and throwing it back.

[@soarabove337]

Very true regarding cooking, which is a Hollywood thing anyway. You wanna cook 1-3 seconds to the lowest bidder? Yeah no thanks. So just don't do it. It always bothered me how much time that nade had before it fired... but hey, I've seen worse. And had that nade met the standard, then kinda movie over. So, incredible as it may be, I'm glad Dr. Goodspeed was able to left-arm fire it back. Accurately. Lol 🤔😱😀👍

[@soarabove337]

Oh and one other thing: near the end, Captain Frye (or Darrow; I always get their names confused - these blokes are inseparable lmao) did a proper job of cooking; it just seemed like "at this time, is it really worth it? Yes." was okay. However, I don't see how there wasn't a sin on the amazing curve ball wrist-roll algorithm he gave it to roll right into the room, however. Lmao, that's a sin that won't count.....except against cs for not using it.

[@caelum2185]

Writing all of that just for 9 likes Yikes!

[@corneliusbartholemew6725]

Did you read that out of a training manual? The reality of the situation is slightly different. "The military" doesn't train anyone, however the branches train differently to certain ends. Something tells me you've never been in combat.

[@Idalg87]

Yeah picking up a grenade thats going to blow your ass up and trying to throw it bck sounds like a terrible idea!

[@Mzee1084]

I love Ed Harris. Such a perfect actor when he plays military roles.

[@SeraphiLionett]

yes exactlyyyyyyy.

[@MrGabeanator]

or any role

[@Sonic1991-z9h]

He’s great in Apollo 13 and National Treasure Book of Secrets which also stars Nicolas Cage.

[@tekevolution9440]

I don't know about you, but this is consider one of my all time favorite classics. Ed Harris and Sean Connery were both great in the film, while Nicholas Cage is just being Nicholas Cage

[@cooldudegaming5957]

Fuck you

[@Strider119119]

It's definitely one of my favorite action films.

[@TDM87]

Definately my favourite action film.

[@wi1dwater742]

It's one of my favorites too.

[@Wackamole56]

I was the same when younger, and you know what, watching this sins video made me laugh, and now I want to watch it again. Its' a stupid "turn your brain off" action film, and I fucking love it. Con air is similar and I love that too. :)

[@EssentialComment]

Ok, this has always bothered me, he goes through the fire based on a memorised timing algorithm reversed, then back through a door to let the rest through. When he escaped the first time could he not have just gone though the door?

[@NLjungberg]

@sheldon pereira i have been annoyed about the door scene forever, your reasoning never crossed my mind. Thank you

[@heartless604]

@@NLjungberg I never gave it much thought tbh! Cause its a Mbay film! When ben affleck asked him in armageddon "hey bay, wouldnt it make more sense if in the movie, we were astronauts who were training to learn drilling as opposed to drillers training to be astronauts? Bay: shut the **** up!" Therefore never look for logic in a Mbay movie.

[@captainsmoke1612]

@@heartless604 They don't really become astronauts, the real astronauts fly the Shuttle and do everything, but I agree anyway, they just have to drill a freaking hole, can't be that hard. lol

[@SoulKiller7Eternal]

The logic fails here. He escaped from there - but the location where they come out is like a boiler room of sorts meaning it would receive maintenance or be worked on from time to time, hence it is easy to see why the door would be closed...people don't stop working or maintaining a prison just because someone escaped. But "I memorized the timing." Meaning...easily...he wouldn't have used the door to begin with. Why leave traces of your escape to let people know which way you're going? That line EASILY means - he escaped the way he went back in!

[@BlakeRPhillips]

@@SoulKiller7Eternal Very plausible. But the movie could have been better if Connery opened the door up and said "It was already unlocked, dumbasses."

[@cmac6861]

The fact that the film tells you Mason is Scottish but has a villain later call him "an English prick" without Mason correcting him is worth at least 100 sins

[@InternetReview]

It just shows the stupidity of Americans

[@me.rafaelbenjamin]

Sir Connery in fact did born in Scotland, as for the character Mason, is there a scene in the movie where they mention he is scottish? As far as I remember it was only mentioned he served in the SAS of his majesty ;)

[@cmac6861]

@@me.rafaelbenjamin states on his online record in the movie he was born in Glasgow

[@me.rafaelbenjamin]

@@cmac6861 Oh, good catch!

[@Justin_North]

Hmm Cage didn't say that there was enough C4 to take down the building. He said that there is enough to blow the chamber, which would release the chemical gas, and kill everyone in the building. I mean damn if you're gonna nitpick at least do it well.

[@vincitveritas3872]

You are 100% f**king correct.

[@darthrevan4933]

There’s a bunch of off sins in this video

[@THEandrewMillet]

CinemaRedemptions?

[@FFassassin71]

Wow. Surprised a sin wasn't taken off when Sean Connery called Nick Cage a f***ing idiot!

[@Modernww2fare]

Lol

[@BillRanter]

Hello I'm from the future 🙂

[@Meymoi]

How could they make a "the rock" movie without Dwayne Johnson ?

[@DirkAustin]

There is a "The Game" movie without HHH too and a "Last man Standing" movie without an actual match.

[@devothedumbass7939]

Because this movie was made before he was called "the rock"

[@DirkAustin]

Ethan Gardiner I dont think you got the joke...

[@Meymoi]

DirkAustin Is "Now you see me" about John Cena though ?

[@keklypuzz1513]

+meymoi yes yes it is

[@cavav8r]

Add one sin to CinemaSins for calling a Huey (the most recognizable helicopter in history) a Blackhawk

[@vincitveritas3872]

I know that and I'm from UK

[@GuitarLessonsBobbyCrispy]

Mason's daughter said that he and her mom met at a bar after a Led Zeppelin concert three decades earlier, which would make it around 1966. But Led Zeppelin played their first United States show in late December 1968, a discrepancy of almost three years. That part of the movie always bugged me, lol.

[@charlieputnam7146]

Now that you say this, I’m going to be bothered for life 😂

[@patogn20]

Why it has to be exactly 30 years? And not use it just as a reference?

[@bowser515]

Those helicopters are not Blackhawks, they are Hueys, probably the most recognisable helicopters ever built. Great film also despite its flaws.

[@DtWolfwood]

12:59 FYI, military training does have the soldiers throw a grenade immediately after the pin is pulled and latch is released. "Cooking" a grenade is a movie myth, considering the chemical fuse can go off between 3-5 seconds. In urban/ close quarters use, they are told to bounce the grenade to make it land unpredictability, making a throw back improbable.

[@Batchall_Accepted]

Exactly. Ask kyle carpenter if theres time to throw a fucking grenade back in real life lol pretty sure he would have if it were possible

[@RJswanee]

True, their training says not to, but cooking a grenade is possible. It's dangerous, but it can be and is done by the more experienced/brave/foolhardy soldiers.

[@seraphimvalkyrin4543]

And when they blow up they don't cause fiery explosions.

[@idunbeezasmart1]

I don't know about other branches or MOS' in the military, but I was Army Infantry and we did cook grenades. You do that when taking out fighting positions/bunkers, specifically for the purpose of denying the enemy time to react. Although, when throwing one, you do want to get rid of it immediately so it doesn't detonate prior to reaching its destination.

[@DerpsWithWolves]

I've heard of it, but not anything official in my regiment. PPCLI though, had a good story from one of them about a grenade tossing match over a compound wall. The Talis couldn't trust the old Soviet fuses on their grenades so they threw them right away every time. Patricas just threw them back and won.

[@michaelt2974]

Still a good movie because it features the last great appearance of Michael Biehn!

[@dorisfromage2349]

Was this before or after "Tombstone"? Because he rocked Johnny Ringo there.

[@baconbitsbelcourt4853]

@@dorisfromage2349 before

[@shannondickerson1559]

TRUTH

[@bryanbylski9671]

Planet Terror?!

[@judsongaiden9878]

His career went in sort of an Eastwood direction since he now works on both sides of the camera as a writer/director as well as actor.

[@foxhero1337]

LMFAO "Congressional Medal of Jesus." "Hummel fought in the War on Christmas!" I'm rolling.

[@taiwanluthiers]

Actually what gets me is how many people in various movies get the medal of honor. You know the number of people who actually gotten the medal of honor since Vietnam can probably be counted by both hands. They made it insanely hard to get that medal, and they're almost always awarded posthumously. Basically you'd have to do something that's so dangerous and so full of valor that most the time, you won't make it. There's probably more movie characters or movies of people who got the medal of honor than actual medal of honor recipients.

[@nickm-s]

13:00 "trained soldier doesn't fuck around with timing the fuse on a grenade, just like they don't in real life because this isn't Call of Duty"

[@Modernww2fare]

good point

[@iwillnukeyou]

Not true they did it in Vietnam. Soldiers/Marines would hold the grenade after pulling the pin and then would toss it onto a room. The Vietcong kept throwing them back so they did that.

[@iwillnukeyou]

+bryant beauhamp *insert racial slur here*

[@shiningvictory7060]

+Nick M-S no its just to busy with posts above you

[@rockstermaniac]

trained soldier in real life doesn't have to... because in real life grenades have a 3-5 second fuse at the most and you dont chuck it like a fastball, you lob it through the air so that it uses up 2 of those precious seconds arcing towards the target. Basically if the grenade lands without instantly exploding u're doing it wrong.

[@thedailydan4939]

Am I the only one who thought this was about Dwayne Johnson?

[@SideStrafed]

yes

[@Jak2bossbf3]

No tons of ppl did

[@isaiahwashington4737]

No

[@linnaedolby663]

No I came here like what's wrong with Dwayne????? lol

[@xgray2012]

No.

[@horaciosi]

This comment section in a nutshell: 92% about the helicopters 6% about Dwayne Johnson 2% about anything else

[@andrewwblanchard6037]

😂

[@monstergonzo6456]

That's 6% too much then.

[@MaCabaret]

Dwayne the Cock Johnson

[@theprofessional5656]

What's wrong with The Rock? That he wants to be called Dwayne Johnson these days - nice try *The Rock, nice try.

[@123guy5]

are you from Israel?

[@bmazin1377]

The daily show lol

[@blobber90blobb82]

Aliens

[@cooldudegaming5957]

It's a free country

[@EuclideanAl]

nice try, The* Rock, nice try

[@wilhelmbeller]

Just gonna forget that he called Hueys Blackhawks

[@lhobbsmusic]

That made me die a little inside too.

[@CRXPhil]

Yup

[@electricflyer81]

Dang... caught that one too... ;p Ding...Sin

[@Goldenpiicklez]

cringe

[@cartermariano]

Well, let's say Hueys are the 90's Blackhawks in movies and let this one slide. Ding.

[@AximandTheCursed]

Small point about the c4 taking out the whole building: I think he meant that the c4 would be enough to blow the chamber open and poison everyone in the whole building, not blow the whole building.

[@larrystrange8044]

They totally missed the biggest plot hole in the film. "The Galaxy Quest" cliche timing thing that only the good guy knows..... WHY? Why did Mason learn that intricate timing for a route needed to break INTO Alcatraz to open the door for the team outside. He was breaking OUT when he escaped. he wouldn't have needed that route at all.

[@chaff5]

You should remove one sin since Hummel used the appropriate "out" when ending a conversation and hanging up rather than "over and out" like most movies do.

[@integral]

Yep. Over and out means I'm not going to talk but I'm gonna keep listening. 😂

[@bloodyrose2076]

​@@integral Not sure if this was supposed to be a joke or not. Over and out doesn't exist. You use over and out you are going to be made fun of. Over means you are done with that portion of the message and you are still continuing communication. Out means that you are done talking and that is the end of transmission. Usually between the two speaking over radios, the highest ranking will be the person to determine when communications are cut.

[@chaff5]

@@bloodyrose2076 It's not the highest ranking that ends the call. The caller ends the call because they called to tell you something and they tell you when they're done telling you what it is they called to tell you. Imagine if a captain calls a general to tell him he's in grave danger but the general ends the call before the captain can finish telling him what kind of danger he's in, where it's coming from, when he should expect it, etc.

[@bloodyrose2076]

@@chaff5 Typically it’s the higher rank initiating to talk down, with exceptions. But the person lower is only providing information. The person higher is making a the decisions. So it doesn’t make sense for the person providing info to just end transmissions with no guidance, warning or not. Typically near the end of the transmission, the higher will ask if they have any more info. If they say no, they’ll either add info or just RGR, out. I can see a higher potentially listening with mild feedback and the initiator responding with ‘out’ once they confirm there is no further guidance. But I’ve rarely if never seen a CPT ‘out’ higher. And most of the time the CPTs are the initiator because they are sending up reports to the Commander to inform them of an issue on ground (usually real world). And to be fair I’ve rarely ever used ‘out’ because of constant transmissions that it becomes superfluous to use it. Also all of the info the CPT has to say would come through one transmissions in small sections and then be proceeded by an over. The general would only respond once the transmission is complete. Once they hear over they would give guidance. If they hear ‘break’ they will not just ‘out’ a transmission. But usually no General would be listening in the radio. It’s an RTO who’s copying transmission down to inform the commander. Unless he happens to be in the AO and the squawk box is super loud and he’s over hearing the transmission.

[@chaff5]

@@bloodyrose2076 "Typically" doesn't matter. The rules of radio etiquette dictate that the caller decides when the call is over, regardless of rank. I'm sure typing all of that felt good but I was in the military and ran comms on deployments; I know how the radio works.

[@jackel54130]

I don't care. This is still one of my favorite action flicks. Also, I thought he would mention how far those guys would have to carry the casket at the beginning.

[@acxezknightnite1377]

It’s in my top 5 too!

[@SlammedZero]

Same here. Love this movie. Classic 90s action movie.

[@adrianloveslucius]

"This character is the gay equivalent to blackface." YES! Thank you!

[@Pchemisfun1]

It's called acting which is being a grown up playing make believe.

[@utkarsh2746]

@@Pchemisfun1 Its called bad writing, doofus. The actor's ability to emote isn't what is being criticized.

[@Pchemisfun1]

So you’re saying that there are no gay “hairstylists” in San Franscisco that would act like that in that situation?

[@ffnendhgrgd]

@@Pchemisfun1 No, because they're humans, not cartoons

[@LadyOnikara]

@@Pchemisfun1 There actually might be.

[@abelaidloera5930]

When the SEAL team were in the shower room, Ed Harris to Michael Biehn: "It's over Anakin! I have the high ground!"

[@vachulak7737]

You're underrestimating my power.

[@Sonic1991-z9h]

@@vachulak7737Don’t try it.

[@KattiValk]

Those aren't Blackhawks though.

[@darkace98]

#AllHawksMatter

[@buckybarnes3803]

+The Dark Realm omg fucking hilarious

[@basically117]

You would be great at CinemaSins

[@liammurphy4204]

thank youuu

[@jacobtaylor8975]

This is a sin for cinemasins, those were most definitely Huey's.

[@swat67ify]

Those aren't UH-60 Blackhawks... those are UH-1 Hueys.

[@Messilegend1000]

Yeah, every fucking Nazi, i mean American knows his military 101, in case world domination and genocide, i mean proliferation of freedom is needed.

[@SamuraiPie8111]

so fucking triggered

[@dorianarbos]

Or, maybe, this sort of thing has appeared a gazillion times in movies and videogames, and human beings have the ability to recognize objects they´ve seen before and remember their names. You see, i´m not even american, and the guy you´re responding to has what appears to be a south korean flag as his avatar, so neither of us got to attend their mandatory World Domination and Genocide classes in school, and yet we were both able to tell the difference between a Huey and a Blackhawk. Crazy, huh? Oh, and by the way, Anti-american comment in a Michael Bay related video cliché *DING*

[@pk13910]

+Tois Sin Cera Go back to your 3rd world hell hole and let the adults discuss things. When we need someone to pick some fruit, we'll call you.

[@dorianarbos]

pk13910

[@DaveMorgan]

Kyle Reese's team was composed of SEALs, not Marines. Ding.

[@PRdeSO]

"Kyle Reese" is the name of that actor's more famous character in The Terminator, not sure if you knew that. CinemaSins love to do that joke where they refer to a character with the first name that would pop to mind about the actor who plays it. By the way, that actor's Michael Biehn and The Rock's actual character's name is Commander Charles Anderson. Funny enough, Michael Biehn was also in the movie Navy SEALs

[@Darkclaw86]

@@PRdeSO Michael Biehn is such an underrated actor and he played in a bunch of movies a military role. The Lords of Discipline - US Army, John Alexander The Terminator - Techcom, Kyle Reese ALIENS - Colonial Marines, Dwyane Hicks Navy SEALs - Navy SEALs, James Curran The Abyss - Navy SEALs, Hiram Coffey The Rock - Navy SEALs, Charles Anderson Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun - GDI, Michael McNeil

[@laurenk1766]

My favorite part of these Cinema Sins is when Jeremy just sighs. It just sums up everything beautifully.

[@jojonta2119]

CinemaSins's videos ROCK. Get it? Okay, I'll leave.

[@envystxx]

lol

[@breadman2438]

Every day, another person makes another bad pun. And every day another child does. Call now to save a child

[@breadman2438]

+frank finkelstein and also, 2:28 IM TRIGGERED!

[@88LiRoth]

Good

[@RavenXtreme]

*adds a sin* - ding -

[@12brunni]

Vx isn't a gas, it's a non-polar liquid, doesn't dissolve in water. Most delivery mechanisms either spray it out or uses a weak low temperature explosion to spread it out. It's very reactive and will become inert in sunlight after a few weeks. But can maintain toxicity for years if it isn't exposed to either extreme heat or direct sunlight. areas exposed to vx are considered uninhabitable because touching less than a drop will kill you. Vx is also created by mixing two chemicals together at a specific temperature and pressure, and is kept in that way both to minimize risks upon leakage, and to maintain potency. Napalm will almost certainly break it down, but it requires very little to be lethal.

[@Damocles54]

The second method you mention was common for artillery shells. 2 chambers in the round each with a precursor chemical that would combine and become aerosolized in the air over a target at a specific point in the trajectory. The real problem with trying to use napalm is that it would initially just increase the rate the liquid off gasses, which is a problem if its upwind of you. But everything from a field decon station (contaminated protective gear etc) is typically thrown into a hole and the area napalmed immediately. which from an environmental standpoint is appalling but 'field expediency' sometimes is necessary.

[@gregorcleganesrabidpug26]

not to mention you would need a quantum field density of at least 2200 kilopaltrows to ignite the unobtanium

[@shriharihudli]

+Joe Villebrun Wow, you're so smart. Where did you learn that?

[@12brunni]

I read. I actually learned this from one of John Ringo's books. He's... really blatant in his politics but he has allot of interesting information and knowledge since he used to be a paratrooper I believe. His "ghost" series. It's really violent and has sex in it so be aware of that, but it is rather interesting.

[@laughingsnake1989]

+Nicolas Brun-Cottan love his books my fave is the polsoon ones

[@MARTIVSFILIVS]

My brother in law worked in chemical weapons in the Air Force every time this movie comes on I have to hear about how "This isn't how VX gas works"

[@QFGEE]

10:00 "He's either a wimp or he's not, make up your mind". No that's what makes him such an interesting character, he can be brave or timid depending on the situation or adrenalin at the time. He's more human than your usual action hero.

[@TheMidnightWalkers]

Exactly, and eventually Goodspeed becomes a braver agent when the mission's completed, mainly thanks to Mason. Great character evolution worthy all these "sins".

[@ShinyHunterGojia]

I'm just sitting here still waiting for them to do everything wrong with Deadpool

[@thatsnodildo1974]

he said he might not do that since it makes fun of itself

[@ShinyHunterGojia]

+Thats Nodildo damn I still hope they do

[@jackfronz2515]

Blasphemy! There is nothing wrong with that movie! XD

[@paalaasengstubbrud3524]

+Jack Fronz No movie is without sin

[@Leedark3]

+Thats Nodildo But that would be perfect for CS! He'd get to use, "Deadpool would be great at CinemaSins" line a ton.

[@danny1st]

Sins or not, The Rock is an awesome action movie

[@Kasino80]

Damn straight!

[@gengivitis7448]

Exactly!

[@jayistop8317]

I just finished watching XD. Great movie

[@snakeplissken8581]

Totally agree with you. One of the best action movies of the 90s and the movie is far better than most of the new action movies.

[@debbieblackman3650]

That scene in the basement when all the soldiers are killed is the saddest - if stupid - part I've seen in a movie. I'm sorry but the "Kyle Reese" line just crushed it lol

[@ods1ODS]

@ 6:23 If I'm not mistaken, Womack clarified and Goodspeed answered accordingly. No sin.

[@SKRUBL0RD]

You can stab through bullet proof vests, they are bullet proof, aka high velocity projectiles, not low speed stopping power.

[@Corgifunni]

but i'm sure the makers of the movie didnt know about that either

[@JoeNorte]

Still can't stab through it there. There is a metal plate placed in the chest, not just bullet resistant fabric.

[@JazzyNym]

Actually, during my short obsession with weapons, I learned a few things about bullet-proof vests. 1) Yes, you can get stabbed through them. Most bullet-proof vests, being *bullet-proof*, are not made to stop knives. There are multipurpose (or "multi-threat") vests, but they're heavier and not always used (plus I HIGHLY doubt they were the ones being used in this movie) and 2) be careful with your use of the term "high velocity" as many high velocity bullets *can* get through bullet proof vests *because* they're high velocity, whereas heavier, slower bullets can be stopped easily

[@Batchall_Accepted]

not every vest has plates, and this movie was made in the 90s, the sapi system wasnt a thing until the early 00's. A lot of guys that went in when Afghanistan first started didnt even get plates

[@prosincr]

+Joseph Norte it's definitely metal you can stab through

[@oompie815]

I am so sad that this movie isn't about a rock.

[@jaketheberge1970]

I'm sure there were many rock cameos, mostly as part of all the baysplosions.(Michael Bay movie explosions)

[@codym672]

+julesmaester I think he meant 'The Rock' Dwayne Johnson

[@reaperzone85]

no because he said he wanted a movie about "A rock" so he literally wanted the movie to be about one single rock on the floor and not a person named the rock.

[@potatoderpy5463]

I'm assuming that patrick would be on it?

[@zacharywolf5666]

geology: the movie

[@manolis.799]

Speaking of Sean Connery can you do the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?

[@dorianarbos]

There are not enough minutes in the age of the universe for that one.

[@sdmagician76]

Or The Avengers (1998)

[@Tysakasa]

Well he managed the Star Wars Prequels, so obviously there must be enough minutes. Same with Last Airbender.

[@ohdogwow2]

Or, "Darby O'Gill and the Little People". This movie is awesome. But every movie has its sins, right?

[@jeffwhite7158]

Loved that movie as a kid! Would love to see it sinned, too haha!

[@crusaderofthelowlands3750]

3:33 I remember saving Captain Price from that location back in 2009.

[@jims7936]

At 8:21 - "Old lady crossing the stre--- you know what, f*ck you, movie" That gave me a great laugh. Thx

[@alexbriscoe2879]

This movie should get minus 143 sins because this is Cage's best movie.

[@nikolausfranco7732]

Police 159 its not, lord of war is

[@surf101-]

No, it's Fast Times at Ridgemont High... The least amount of screen time Cage is in! 🤣

[@deborahhanna6640]

The vampire's kiss.

[@LadyOnikara]

I like Nick Cage, but honestly that's not saying much.

[@themimsy]

National Treasure

[@TracyAVG]

I love this movie and I am still sitting here laughing at this video. They caught things I never noticed, made some hilarious comments, tore the movie apart, and I still love them. Nice work.

[@ericbartley6253]

One of the best movies of all time

[@Sonic1991-z9h]

@@ericbartley6253 Agreed! Way better than Transformers (2007), Transformers Revenge of the Fallen, Transformers Dark of the Moon, Transformers Age of Extinction and Transformers The Last Knight!

[@SubtlyAggressive]

11:44 He killed SEALs, not Marines.

[@supersentallupinurmouf]

Yeah cuz nothing can kill a marine! LOL 'merica

[@kaylabor4451]

Omg 😂😂 that "mostly because I don't want to look up how much c4 would bring down a building" 😂😂 hilarious

[@NBA4LifeVids]

I thought this was going to be a critique of Dwyane Johnson.

[@captainnemog1705]

ikr

[@captainnemog1705]

+OhNoNotMyPenis john cena 10 hours

[@gloom6377]

Same

[@tomboyinrecovery]

Nahhhh That Would Of Been On Brand Sins

[@ffnendhgrgd]

that's more of a Brand Sins thing

[@MattTennant]

Missed the sin that has always bugged me. The underground "memorized timing" bit would be in reverse from what Connery did to originally escape. Yet here the hard bit was getting in and then he just opened a door to get out and let the team in. Sin.

[@ion_iot]

8:13 mild mannered lab rat turns into an F1 champion

[@BobCat981]

13:42 +5 sins for computer monitor that actually projects images like a projector

[@tonysamos2113]

You missed the most obvious blunder. How can Sean Connery’s character have a 20 year old daughter in 1995/96 if he’s been locked up for 30 years?

[@tste7856]

Conjugal visits? 🙍

[@gunsnrosas2154]

The movie explains through Womack's character that he (John Mason) "broke out two maximum security prisons". Later, his daughter says that "US Marshals kicked down the hotel door". Marshals handle warrants on the federal prisons side, implying he was an escaped convict when he went to the Led Zeplin concert with his babimama.

[@PhenomProductions23]

Sean Connery is basically playing old James Bond here without Calling him James Bond because it's not an Ian Fleming story & Copyright issues so his name is John Mason but he's kicking everybody's ass, including saving Nic Cage's ass and doing what The Navy Seals cannot accomplish because he was trained by tbe best "British Intelligence" in ither words he's 007 without saying it, but all the signs are literally in your face throughout the movie...

[@KaladinVegapunk]

His sperm is that potent

[@integral]

@@KaladinVegapunk 😂

[@darksunday3012]

No movie is without sin but damn I always loved this movie, the standoff scene is one of my favorite movie scenes ever

[@TheLucas2696]

2:55 I think the implication is that the c4 would destroy the chamber thus exposing everyone in the building to the gas.

[@Departedreflections]

Those aren't black hawk helicopters - 1 sin, Cin

[@redacted3380]

Yup, those are Bell UH-1 Iroquois (aka Hueys).

[@Scotty-P]

Lotsa Hueys.

[@bbruinenberg]

Lack of a ding. *ding

[@C6evolution2008]

1 sin per Huey. lol

[@eudksnwje332]

also calling Marines, Soldiers

[@0Quiwi0]

You should add a sin almost every time you see an orange explosion. Those don't happen unless it's a flame bomb.

[@jurajanal2277]

And in transformers too, they look like some big ass chunks of magnesium that are burning (in transformers)

[@johnboone45]

Dude. I love every one of your Cinema Sins. But this is the best. I still love The Rock though. (Suspension of disbelief be-damned)

[@ericolivencia]

I always stay to the end cuz the shit you edit in over the movie footage is sometimes the funniest part of these videos. And this one did not disappoint! Laughed out loud while giving you well-deserved props for both Team America and So I married an Ax Murderer references. Well played.

[@L.J.Kommer]

3:46 Narrator misidentifies Bell UH-Iroquois as a Blackhawk. *DING

[@cgmason7568]

around 3:30 those are UH-1A Huey helicopters

[@alexander1485]

the guy is stupid

[@cgmason7568]

alexander1485 nah just not educated on helicopters

[@0Quiwi0]

Actually they are the civilian version Bell 204's painted to look like Huey's /end nitpick

[@_R_E_D__]

well they weren't black hawks

[@Dadecorban]

Glad I checked before posting "not blackhawks"

[@voxdraconia4035]

Biggest problem of this movie always was Ed Harris "villain"-character - as soon as you realize he is an honorable guy the whole movie becomes predictable (of course there are renegades oposing the general) and the threat almost non-existant. Should have gone the old Bond-Villain-route, a cliche, but at least it gives you something to hate. Cast Tommy Lee Jones in it, wearing a jeans jacket, and you are set ^^

[@soarabove337]

Too much here to go into because you're right... yet at the same time, it makes sense to go a different direction. I hope to address this...eventually. Very good points all the same.

[@JasonScotchmer]

Here are all the audio outtake clips at the end: 1 (15:28): WrestleMania XIV (29th March 1998) 2 (15:37): Tropic Thunder (DreamWorks Pictures, 2008) 3 (15:41): Ferris Bueller's Day Off (Paramount Pictures, 1986) 4 (15:50): Edge of Tomorrow (Warner Bros., 2014) 5 (15:58): Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (Paramount Pictures, 1989) 6 (16:04): Team America: World Police (Paramount Pictures, 2004)'s "America Fuck Yeah" performed by Trey Parker 7 (16:19): So I Married an Axe Murderer (TriStar Pictures, 1993) 8 (16:36): Candyman (TriStar Pictures, 1992) 9 (16:42): The Terminator (Orion Pictures, 1984) 10 (17:02): The Untouchables (Paramount Pictures, 1987)

[@Violent2aShadow]

No sin on the Marines referring to each other as "soldiers"? Soldiers are in the Army.

[@razgrizraven]

Or maybe a sin on Jeremy for calling Navy SEALS, Marines.

[@February54]

Like John McClane said in Die Hard 2 - "Who gives a fuck?"

[@queenrayna]

I'm sure that Jeremy agrees when I say frankly my dear I don't give a damn

[@Vincent_Beers]

Marines have been called "the soldiers of the sea" for centuries. It's only ignorant modern day marines who do not know their own history who get butt hurt over being called soldiers. www.angelfire.com/ca/dickg/soldier.html

[@Godslayer1975]

lol sorry soldiers are not just in a army try looking at how world works , words are just tools they change in different contexts and a soldier can be one man fighting for a cause. in no way does it mean you must be in a military organization . i assume you get your education from video games and not actual education

[@orokusaki8670]

I am a huge fan of your channel it always makes me smile. Keep the good work boys.

[@earthwatcher2012]

How in the name of Zeus's butthole did you *NOT* sin the line "how in the name of Zeus's butthole did you do that?"

[@MeCooper]

Why in the name of Satan's urethra would they do that?

[@mckenzie.latham91]

What pisses me off about the film was that at no time was actually paying the money for those dead soldiers families...EVER considered an actual option. they literally were willing to sacrifice all those hostages before even contemplating paying the money.

[@QuantomX64]

This is a childhood favorite movie of mine that I grew up with. I realize it's wonky but I love it. This movie and Face/Off is why Nickolas Cage is one of my all time favorite actors.

[@Sonic1991-z9h]

What do you think of Transformers (2007), Transformers Revenge of the Fallen, Transformers Dark of the Moon, Transformers Age of Extinction and Transformers The Last Knight? They’re directed by Michael Bay.

[@Justin.Franks]

@14:39 Body armor ("bulletproof vests") does not protect against sharp objects.

[@toomanyaccounts]

unless it also a stab vest or has plates in it,

[@josephjohnson94]

Because it's a cinema sins video I feel that I have to nitpick. Those aren't black hawk helicopters they are Huey's officially known as a bell UH-1.

[@josephjohnson94]

3:28

[@DarienSeminoff]

Bell-204's too be specific.

[@mogetfog]

CinimaSins sin counter +1 *DING*

[@uosdwiSrdewoH]

There's a sin you overlooked. Just before they decide to launch the rocket Tony Todd says to Hummell that they're "calling your bluff". Then after Hummell crashes the rocket into the ocean he says to Frye that "We bluffed, they called it" then Frye says "Who said anything about bluffing?" Umm, Tony Todd did a few minutes ago. Also why do Frye and Tony Todd have such a hard on to kill 80,000 innocent civilians? Frye especially was clearly problematic from the start. He's there is front of the General, arms folded, looking all pissy. Where did he find these guys? You telling me he didn't have another couple of guys he could bring on that he actually worked with because this movie doesn't happen without their raging hard on to kill anyone and everyone.

[@danieloar072]

god i love this movie. So much surreal action. Easily his best film... due to Sean Connery perhaps

[@soarabove337]

Well, Sean + Nicholas Cage. And maybe Fabrizio.

[@xXxKAMIKAZExXx]

Black Hawks? Are you high? They are clearly A-10 Thunderbolts.

[@Bluemangrup]

According to the comment section you are also high as they seem to be Huey's. Signed ~The comment section (I guess)

[@morganb6717]

sarcasm aside, you get a Thank You for referring to them properly as Thunderbolts, not Warthogs.

[@BOSKD]

Are you high? Those are obviously M4A3 Clintons.

[@raindrain1]

That's as unlikely as seeing anyone refer to F-16's as Fighting Falcons.

[@xXxKAMIKAZExXx]

+Bryden O'Neill I am well aware of that, thanks.

[@MegaSoulHero]

I wonder if Batman v Superman will be on Thursday.

[@DirkAustin]

BvS and Deadpool gonna be great. And X Men Apocalypse.

[@jeffanderson9938]

And Gods of Egypt.

[@MegaSoulHero]

+Jeff Anderson I forgot about that movie

[@cerperalpurpose]

Deadpool. They'd never say it...And probably have a fake title. Too many comments.

[@bmazin1377]

+MegaSoulhero I wish I could say the same

[@BeforeMoviesSucked]

RIP Sir Sean Connery. August 25, 1930-October 31, 2020. (Does anybody else get the feeling that the entire San Francisco car chase happened because Michael Bay said, "We need a car chase?" My bet is the original script had Mason requesting to see his daughter before he would help them.)

[@kylebush345]

Add a sin. As the F/A-18 is being pulled out of the hangar during the president's monologue, the the plane has the designation VMFA-314 which is a USMC fighter attack squadron. Just right before the intake, it says "US Air Force". Neither does the squadron or the aircraft belong to the Air Force.

[@irllcd13]

Do you really expect Michael Bay's military hardon to have any basis in reality?

[@soarabove337]

Probably true on the squadron, not going to look it up. But if I missed VMF with USAF signage.....yah that's definitely a sin.

[@michaeldally8532]

'Maybe he wasn't talking to you, Stacey' hahahaha!!

[@RD19902010]

"Bulletproof" vests are often NOT stabproof. And vice versa.

[@mystic-malevolence]

Not entirely correct. Bulletproof vests normally include the ceramic trauma plates, which would almost certainly break the needle. Plus, Kevlar resists all impacts to some extent.

[@dragonheart967]

Depends on the set up and the gear. Yeah, Kevlar can resist impacts, but a sharp object? That's not so much as impact as it is puncture. Sure, it's risky to use that needle through Kevlar, it's a think material after all, but it wouldn't stop it due to "impact Resistance".

[@ellllllo77]

well, that's why he wrote "not often"

[@massimomirigello9827]

Bulletproof vests are barely bulletproof. You'd end up with plenty of damaged organs and broken ribs. That's if it's a low caliber bullet.

[@RD19902010]

Mini Mass thatswhy I said "bulletproof" ;-)

[@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679]

5:50 - "she still has on underwear" REMOVE 10 SINS because that level of coitus is an "advanced maneuver", son!

[@nismozx6r]

They are not black hawk helicopters they are hueys.

[@imah8ter07]

Sinning CinemaSins? That's a sin.

[@fourtrees44]

I was going to say the same thing, but then I realized someone else must have already said it lol

[@desertfoxcartoon]

Someone besides me noticed! ^_^

[@DarienSeminoff]

Dammit!!! I was going to correct them...

[@sawyerawr5783]

freaking beat me to it! as well, that shouldn't be a sin...as long as they aren't known to have defected yet, the US army isn't going to stop a pair of helicopters with friendly markings flying nearby. at least not without reason.

[@themimsy]

Sin 1: Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson doesn't star in this.

[@themimsy]

Holy crap why did I comment this 4 months ago, forget about it, watch this video again and comment the same comment.

[@LadyOnikara]

@@themimsy Looks like you just know yourself very well.

[@rollmic]

This guy is hallarious! Love his observations! So gifted and talented. No one can do this narration and comedy idea as he does! What a fantastic channel. Thank you!!!!

[@MarcosAmparo]

I'm kind of mad that Dwayne Johnson wasn't in this movie 😞

[@MarcosAmparo]

Can you smell what THE ROCK is cooking

[@mk6rfc1]

He wasn't acting 20 years ago

[@tavintesinclair]

The rock was still wrestling at the time

[@colbonthecob2530]

+mk6rfc1 Well technically he was.

[@mk6rfc1]

+ColbOnTheCob I meant movies not wrestling

[@forrestcommander6283]

Sin: you called the personnel Hummel killed Marines in one scene, then properly refer to them as SEALs (who are sailors) in a later scene.

[@Cid13]

The comment about rain and lighting makes me think that Cinema Sin guy has never been in Florida during the summer.

[@soarabove337]

Rain. Lightning. With sun. Yup, happens. More than in Florida, but Florida especially.

[@ShinyRayquazza]

Guys, you're being so insensitive. Those Hueys sexually identify as Black Hawks, okay?

[@redacted3380]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 But no.

[@AwfulWaffle8474]

i was going to say that, thanks for saving me the time bro

[@zoepaulastrassfield2664]

That joke is played out and was mean-spirited to begin with.

[@rock3tcatU233]

Did you just assume my make and model?

[@dragonfriendly1]

I'm so glad we're being original with our jokes. Great content, keep up the good work....

[@philgrenier8891]

There’s a great video about how Sean Connerys character in this movie is actually James Bond. It’s worth looking and makes a compelling case.

[@crazyman7671]

14:12 "The United States Candyman flies at half-staff when Michael Bay makes a movie" lol 😆 😂 🤣

[@crackcoursehistory4566]

Hey those are H1 Huey's. Not Blackhawk helicopters. Get it right

[@Mr.Joyless]

came here to say the same... was like ARGH!

[@desertfoxcartoon]

You noticed too!! ^_^

[@crackcoursehistory4566]

+Seven'EllsNedChill so I'm a nerd because I know the difference in 2 types of deadly helicopters? Armed with deadly weapons? Doesn't sound like a nerd it sounds like you need to check your man card

[@SuperBarny123]

A real man never needs to explain to people why he is a real man, he just is, or is not.

[@Eratiik]

+Seven'EllsNedChill hahahaha.

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

Yes, everything this movie says about VX, is inaccurate, except for the designed/discovered thing

[@vineethonkan]

well it was disovered by accident...

[@J_C_CH]

The most the movie gets wrong is that it melts your body and is kept in green glass balls (VX gas is colourless, but whether it's the balls or the gas they show to be green I don't know) Everything else they get right about it

[@davidjones3165]

@@J_C_CH perhaps it was colored to detect leaks?

[@taiwanluthiers]

Actually VX gas would probably kill everyone on Alcatraz (assuming if it dispersed properly) if the glass breaks but given a few days the poison would dissipate into harmless chemicals. That's one good thing about organophosphates, it doesn't linger around for a long time. That is why they are used as pesticides instead of say DDT (which does linger around forever and bioaccumulate). kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnKofaamj7Cpd9E This video shows what it actually does...

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

@@taiwanluthiers VX is not a gas. VX is classified as an area denial munition specifically because it lingers for long periods. It was concocted to replace minefields. Please, just stop.

[@carlrood4457]

The thing about using some sort of tranquilizer is they need to be geared to the body of the person your shooting at. Something that will knock out a 230lb marine immediately would probably kill a 110lb woman. That doesn't even take into account that it does take time for the tranq to move through the bloodstream, even if it were introduce intravenously. The idea you could shoot two darts with the same amount of compound at two different people and expect them to both immediately fall to the ground probably means you used enough to kill them immediately

[@soarabove337]

Yeah but no joke: these are Marines we're talking about. I trust them. Implicitly. Sincerely, The Army

[@gingervikingjesus2351]

@14:49 Think of bulletproof vests (depending on the material used) like that stuff oobleck.. Bulletproof vests are designed to stop a small, relatively wide object moving at a high rate of speed.. That needle is probably the width of a pencil lead & is doing anything BUT moving at a high rate of speed.. Again depending on the material used, that needle would have absolutely no issue moving through a bulletproof vest.. That being said, Kevlar is a very tough material, most likely the tip of that needle would be absolutely destroyed..

[@hantms]

After binge-watching Cinsins for two days straight I'm finally irked by so many dings on a movie I really loved. I love that Connery is effectively doing an homage to a really dark ending to James Bond's career, locked up and forgotten about. AND completely nailing it in being even more bad-ass than when he was Bond if that's possible, but with more reflection and maturity, as well as some terrific lines. Mandatory -100 off for any BS movie with Connery in it! (Also: Indiana Jones 3)

[@mullaoslo]

It's not even an homage.. Bay noticed something familiar about it as well and asked Connery about it.. He told him straight up, I'm doing bond.. This is official the last time Connery played the role even though the character had a different name

[@AstrosFan0921]

The baby doll that has the toxic gas in the beginning of the movie still looks more lifelike than the crazy cgi baby in the last Twilight movie. Also, ironic that the "baby" nearly kills Nic Cage and the trainee while hours later Nic Cage is told by his girlfriend that they are now expectant parents.

10:41 “this music is interchangeable with...”. No one ever described Hans Zimmer with such accuracy.

[@w2ttsy670]

Hans Zimmer’s least favourite score is the one he did for the rock because he’d borrowed so much from crimson tide to develop it. Shame, because the rock score has a slightly better emotional range to it than crimson tide in my opinion

[@Lostraven2420]

“You gotta be kidding me “no scissors”, I mean did they tell Picasso “No Brush?!” Lmfao

[@jimhill2087]

Sinner! How dare you be honest about one of my favorite good bad flicks!

[@razgrizraven]

143 sins for a Michael Bay movie. That's actually rather low.

[@UndeadSon]

This better have at least 1 sin removed for Hans Zimmer's theme Hummel Gets the Rockets.

[@zackcross7190]

One thing I found weird was how Womack looked at Kramer in shock after hearing that the Pentagon uses a slush fund to keep proceeds from illegal arms deals. This is the same dude that held Mason without trial for over 30 years.