Everything Wrong With Venom: Let There Be Carnage

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Venom: Let There Be Carnage is a whole lot of something. Seems like if you liked the first movie you will like this movie. But it does have sins, yo.
Thursday: Bad comedy sins.
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[@CinemaSins]

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[@calyxmorningstar5578]

Hey I got a question what movie have you done that has got the most sins

[@air03man]

Spot the "Spiderman no way home" cameo go!

[@anthonyramos588]

Thursday: Grown Ups 2

[@DanWooller]

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[@wyldshot666]

Jeremy..... waiting on your solo cover album. 😊😊😊😊😊

[@Sunprism]

In the comics, venom found out that chocolate could satisfy his hunger for brains, and for a solid bit in the 90s, was rarely seen without a candybar

[@michaeldowdney3887]

That’s a great way to easily get in some product placement

[@dudemcfurgusson7179]

So that's why when the red rage overtakes them they have such a craving for chocolate.

[@LordMoku]

Same

[@WhiteFireTheDragon]

I wonder if that could work if your bit during the zombie apocalypse. Just pop a chocolate bar in your mouth and hope for the best... I'm actually being serious.🤪

[@autumbreeze1129]

That is interesting AND explains how Brock was able to gain control of Venom in that Spider-Man cartoon in the 90s. Couldn't show or confirm Venom eats humans in a 90s cartoon, so just have him eating chocolate off-screen

[@Hannacalebclark]

For a movie called let there be carnage, there was very little carnage.

[@Hex-Mas]

Money is to be made in a PG-13 rating and also religious right.

[@panicatthegasstation]

Should have just been called 'Venom With a Chance of Carnage'.

[@Hannacalebclark]

@@Hex-Mas Deadpool successfully did the R rating

[@Hannacalebclark]

@@olleselin if you don’t like criticism you’re on the wrong channel

[@ianfudo5040]

This movie was a love letter for the 80s comics, these characters traits are from the 80s comics, and in those comics those chsracter werent bloody. They were goofy and funny and not taken seriosly.

[@doit9575]

Carnage is one of the coolest and most f*cked up characters in all of marvel. So for them to make this movie PG 13 and then kill him after one movie is a straight up CRIME.

[@KardboardKenny]

try all of comics.

[@acedragon543]

Agreed. They struggled to make a PG13 Venom movie work. No way a Carnage movie would work if it wasnt R. He at least looked good, but the tornado he did was ridiculous

[@mr.pillsbury7610]

This of all movies should of been rated R... this movie was as tame as a teddy bear

[@Danbo22987]

Like it would make sense if he were fighting Spider-Man but even then in his first appearance comic he murders an entire family

[@FinalFantasy84Ever]

There can only be one Highlander

[@whackyshacky]

I’d have taken a sin or five off for the “no one likes you, Dan!” line. Damn near spit out my soda in the theater.

[@venomraiz]

Greetings, Venom from Brazil

[@lycaonthehunter25]

Lol same for me, tho I watched it at home 🤣🤣🤣

[@1234KeithB]

Why would you go to the theater to watch this shit?

[@illCMAC]

The part where Shriek suddenly grew a conscience was so jarring I thought the movie was missing frames. I'm glad you caught it and sinned it appropriately.

[@xijinping3056]

13h ago but the vid was uploaded 7 mins ago ??

[@geragp1187]

@@xijinping3056 channel member

[@itswizardtime63]

@@milea9028 No

[@hamsackk]

Same!

[@itswizardtime63]

@Mersa Kiya No

[@ultradragontamer]

I'm surprised there wasn't a sin for Eddie, who was shown to be a somewhat competent investigative reporter in the 1st movie is a complete idiot and relies on venom in this movie.

[@malicia7321]

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that. When he visited Kletus in jail and is basically like "I got nothing" and Venom is like that's fine I got everything we need. I'm just thinking like. Eddie WAS already a successful journalist at the start of the first movie before venom came along so what's going on here

[@doryaman]

@@malicia7321 Yea, and that would set the balance between the two. Eddie for the brains, Venom for the brute strength, but now it's just Venom for everything and Eddie is nothing but meatsuit.

[@giraffe.exe0]

Just like Anna in frozen 2. she was a bold and brave character in the first one but then is a worrying over dramatic character in the second

[@SpawnRevenge92]

Eddie was a moron in the first movie. He just took rumors as facts and he was right purely by luck. He's an awful journalist.

[@vasily9818]

There should be a sin for your grammar💀

[@MCNinjaDJ]

I'm sad there wasn't a sin removed for the "I just wanted to be your friend," "F*CK this guy!" scene. I laughed so hard at that.

[@WolfyX3]

For real! CinemaSins seemed to actually like this movie, so I was waiting for that moment to at least get mentioned (either as a sin or a sin removal) but no dice.

[@mackielunkey2205]

That was honestly the only line in the movie that I laughed at unironically.

[@MCNinjaDJ]

@@mackielunkey2205 IT WAS SO GOOD!

[@iWatchyt11]

@@WolfyX3 same thing with the “ not you father, YOU father” scene

[@fireaza]

I quite enjoyed this movie, biggest issue would be that Venom is a bit too goofy. The humor involving Venom in the first movie was that he was unintentionally goofy by always being so serious and straightforward. Hopefully the 3rd one will hit the right balance.

[@Takaichi666-]

Yeah hopefully either way I liked that carnage got to be in a love action marvel film

[@icchigo3901]

nah that was the best part

[@bismarckimperia8781]

That was the best part of the movie and should have sticked to it. Then they decided to add Carnage and butcher him at the same time made me unable to watch the during the period wherr Venom isnt in screen lol.

[@DoomRulz]

This film's biggest sin was giving Carnage and Kletus relatively little screentime and character development. Don't get me wrong; Carnage looked and sounded amazing, but he deserved more. Hopefully the multiverse brings him back in another movie.

[@jon83chewy]

They don’t necessarily need the multiverse I don’t think, unless eating him dissolved all the parts that made Carnage I would assume he could come back by just escaping venoms body

[@jmoney228]

You were so close this movie's biggest sin is not showing Carnage we have a movie about one of the greatest serial killers and insane couple of characters and it's rated PG-13 and doesn't show his true character at all which is why this movie is trash and the fact that CinemaSins just said they would want more of this over Spider-Man shows that he clearly doesn't know Cinema

[@Luke_]

Agreed. There are many deleted scenes on youtube that give them lots of character development, but they were removed because the director wanted the movie to be more fast paced, I believe.

[@JohnEusebioToronto]

Nah, the biggest sin is making Carnage and Cletus two separate characters. Cletus and Carnage are supposed to be so in-sync with each other that they have no separation and refer to themselves as “I” instead of “us.” In this movie, not only are they distinct from each other, but they’re less in-sync than Eddy and Venom.

[@venom8598]

@@jmoney228 ummm there are Spider-Man shows that have carnage in it and they did him right. It doesn’t have to be R for the carnage to be right it has to be written right

[@sebastiaankrul2403]

Cinemasins likes this movie way more than I expected

[@omnientertainment5852]

IKR, its sickening

[@jakubrejak1114]

While also shitting on No Way Home. What the hell?!

[@jon83chewy]

@@jakubrejak1114 I think it’s cause this movie at least tried to do something different. Yeah they still did the typical action stuff at the end but you could tell that’s the part they hated the most. In every one of their videos you can see them show lots of appreciation for unconventional things movies do and they loathe whenever movies go into those formulas that filmmakers overuse.

[@jakubrejak1114]

@@jon83chewy You can't have a superhero movie like No Way Home without a large scale colorful final clash at the end. What did Venom 2 try to do different? Spiteful banter between two comedic individuals is nothing new. No Way Home on the other hand had the balls to make Peter a nonexistent figure to everyone in his world. He's a true nobody and that's something he'll have to live with for the rest of his life.

[@jon83chewy]

@@jakubrejak1114 I can’t speak about their opinions on No Way Home because they haven’t released a video for it yet. But with Venom 2, it would’ve been easy to follow a blueprint similar to most of the other Marvel projects, but Andy Serkis said you know what I have an idea that’s kinda weird let’s make this a parody of romantic comedies and have Venom and Eddie be like an old married couple and cinemasins obviously digs that. They’re all about outside the box thinking. With No Way Home I agree it’s a big deal having pretty much everything in Spider-Man’s life be taken away from him so that they can be protected, they might even take a sin off for it, but the movie still follows a formula that most marvel movies are known for. If you want don’t know what I mean by formula then ask what’s so different between the Spider-Man films. Is it bad guy team ups? Nope Sam Raimi did that first. Is it the female love interest that turns into a damsel in distress? Nope all Spider-Man’s have that. I’m rambling but my point is they appreciate the fact that they tried something new and were humorous about it. Even though this movie had its fair share of cliches and copy/paste moments.

[@callofhaloinfinite6336]

Venom knew that he will kill people when he enters them after a period of time, but chose to enter the lady who helps him. I kind of wished that they showed her at the end, just to make sure she was all right and Venom didn't just killed one of his friends.

[@bitlashripad8721]

Yeah

[@xmv2941]

she is in across the spider verse

[@callofhaloinfinite6336]

@@xmv2941 Yep, glad they confirm that she's still alive.

[@phillipwalling7470]

Chen is one of my favorite side characters because she's so snarky and deadpan hilarious. Glad that she's confirmed alive. Plus, Venom seems to pair up fine with Anne and Chen. Eddie is perfect, but Anne and Chen would make great backups in case him and Eddie had a fallout again.

[@pinkyspartycannon]

in the previous movie, Venom does explain the symbiote hierarchy to the audience and he does say you don't ever want to meet a red one.

[@EJsGameplay]

Oh cool, I'm surprised I don't remember that part cause that sounds funny.

[@ryanholderman4887]

It's cuz the red ones are crazy as fuck and the black ones like venom are protectors where they come from.

[@resention8230]

This is a complete lie lol Venom NEVER discusses this or talks about a red one at all, ever

[@ryanholderman4887]

@@resention8230 I'm not saying he did, I'm saying it's genuinely known that the red ones are crazy are fuck as evident by who he bonded with.

[@resention8230]

@@ryanholderman4887 I'm replying to the OP who said Venom did say that in the movie

[@jaredjosephs9776]

“ive just incapacitated your boyfriend” is my favorite line in this movie. shits hilarious

[@handev2604]

I don’t know about you all, but I liked this film. It’s dumb, but I think it’s a fun kind of dumb.

[@sarmadabrar185]

I love her fake southern accent too

[@sarmadabrar185]

@@handev2604 exactly

[@joshfarmer8408]

My main problem with this movie and the first one is that they are not rated r. You can't have characters like venom and carnage in pg13 movies, or at least you shouldn't

[@ianfudo5040]

"You cant have venom and carnage in pg13 movies" while all the comics in the 80s and 90s their comics wasnt bloody at all and this movie is a love letter to those type of comics.

[@epicstark990]

@@ianfudo5040 It’s not about the ratings- its about the bad/ Bot type of writing here. It’s not a “love letter” it’s a cash grab to all the investors.

[@therumtummugger420]

No blood?😭😥

[@RaguORagla]

@@ianfudo5040 I don't think you know what a "love letter" actually is.

[@Sylviala2009]

You can! Don't blame this horrible writing on not having an R Rating.

[@Dwendele]

Tom Hardy and Ryan Reynolds absolutely personify their two characters. Neither movie franchise would have made it past VHS release without them. (yeah, I know)

[@SulfuricAither]

I love that only around half of the sins are actual sins and the others are just him talking about how he loves this fun as hell movie

[@bismarckimperia8781]

Nah, he loved Venom and his interaction to the world. The rest of the show was a shit fire like how Cinemasins hated most of the stuff where Venom isnt in the screen lol.

[@dragontalon9158]

"The homeless population in San Francisco (which the city seems reluctant to deal with)" made me laugh a bunch for some reason

[@applepye1353]

The funnest jokes are the true ones.

[@brettbaratheon9776]

I like the ones that 💩 on Nancy’s driveway.

[@ScrewBallTheAlien]

California in general seems to have this issue, yet follows San Fran’s example of doing fuck all about it. Stellar work, Mr. Newstrom.

[@The-San-Francisco-Treat]

I love San Francisco and i thought it was funny!

[@vastotales4431]

The fact that they tease Venom in the end credits for a possible Spidey Vs Venom showdown in N.W.H. and didn't use neither of them the real *SIN*

[@yourweirduncle4441]

Maybe its for the next movie

[@touremuhammad5983]

What’s NWH?

[@spider-man500]

@@touremuhammad5983 Have you been living under a rock? It's No Way Home, as in Spider-Man No Way Home.

[@jaredjosephs9776]

@@touremuhammad5983 spider man no way home

[@allosaurusanimations]

It’s confirmed that sometime after the 4th MCU Spider-Man movie, there will be a Spider-Man vs Venom movie.

[@bittersprout3694]

I'm honestly surprised that there are no security camera in that prison that caught Venom trying to eat the detective's head in the beginning. Even the public bathroom stall door felt his head's presence And later, Dan can clearly see him when venom tells him "you take care too" in the farewell scene.

[@ther3aper561]

1) I thought the whole implication of "That's a red one" is because Carnage is fused with Kasady's insides whereas all other symbiotes so far have been separate beings that are inside their host but form around them. Carnage seems to actually form out of Kasady's body instead of being a separate being. 2) Harrelson seemed like the perfect choice to play Kasady but overall this movie felt packing in length and over all development. It's fun and I love both it and the first but it didn't feel complete

[@TheMasterVictory]

from what i recall in Spiderman TAS, carnage was red because it infused with kasady's through a open wound

[@ther3aper561]

@@TheMasterVictory exactly yeah. To Venom (in the movie) it would be different seeing a symbiote completely infused with someone

[@newageBoundhippie]

@@TheMasterVictory that's actually how it is in the comics too. IN fact, the iconic Maximum Carnage storyline kicks off when Kassady gets cut while being transferred & unleashes Carnage. The symbiote is literally merged with his blood

[@TheMasterVictory]

@@newageBoundhippie even the SNES game with the same name, implies that as well

[@newageBoundhippie]

@@TheMasterVictory well yeah....the game was directly adapting the comic story

[@brucewayne8252]

When I saw Carnage and Cletus completely merged in the trailers , I thought that it was a sign of them having a complete bond . Venom saying " That is a red one " made me believe it . It was the logical route because the movie is about Eddie and Venom fixing their friendship so that the only way they can face Carnage ( who doesn't have that weakness ) is by being buddies again. It's a shame that didn't happen .

[@CthulhuTheory]

But it did happen. They became friends again and beat up carnage, eventually.

[@illCMAC]

Yeah no, it was just a red one. *fart noise*

[@ther3aper561]

It was a red one because Carnage is fused with Cassidy's insides. Venom was a wholly separate being that forms around Brock.

[@thatoneotherguy3299]

the red Klyntars (may have spent it wrong) were the dominante symbiotes, the most dangerous, aside from the dragons and Knull himself

[@thescottishaccent]

@@thatoneotherguy3299 I may be utterly wrong, as it's been a while since I've seen it, but wasn't there a red one in charge in the first Venom and he was shown to be stronger/more dominant than Venom? I presumed it was just continuation of that. (Am I entirely making this up in my head somehow?)

[@cam-qz5xe]

The chemistry between Eddie and venom is hilarious

[@rasheedfraser5680]

if your 12

[@f-five9356]

yea if you would watch a buddy movie and not a fucking movie with a alien from outer space which needs brains to eat

[@catsareamazing420]

@@rasheedfraser5680 You’re* Yk they’re canonically married in the comics right?..Right?!

[@jwbetter4562]

Always been so funny

[@jwbetter4562]

@CANNON we don’t care

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Venom: We are wasting our talent" CinemaSins: "The opinions of every Sony Pictures exec after The Amazing Spider-Man 2" You don't gotta do them dirty like that bro

[@li-limandragon9287]

I dunno implying Sony Pictures exec had talent in the first place is the problem. It’s the filmmakers who do the real work.

[@snapclub8751]

The biggest sin in this movie is the fact that Carnage is in a PG-13 movie.

[@Memelord2020]

Drinking game: Take a shot every time someone says “Venom”

[@MarvinMarquez-md2jp]

me drunk love you

[@MarvinMarquez-md2jp]

jk

[@NuminorTheFool]

The movie felt seriously imbalanced when it came to how the acts were set up. Act 1 seemed like 90% of the movie, Act 2 like maybe 8% and Act 3 2%. It just really felt like there was suppose to be so much more to it. Look at it this way, we got one single fight between Carnage and Venom. No mid Act 2 fight where the villain can have a bit of a win against the hero and hero has to reevaluate themselves going into Act 3 maybe even leading to character development for both the villain and hero. Nope we got 'That's a red one' as the only explaination to Carnage and possibly the worst thing about the movie. Because there was zero character development from any character you could just delete the film and make a Venom 3 and you likely wouldn't notice that 2 was missing.

[@hahayeahman3629]

fax

[@gragtricshot5136]

Very well said. The movies plot was so basic and felt like any action movie, however it was fun

[@SgtSupaman]

Honestly, it tracks pretty much the same as the first one. You could make a Venom 3 and you wouldn't need to watch 1 or 2. The Venom movies have a plot depth equivalent to the Fast and Furious movies. Some entertaining, mindless action and that's about it.

[@jessicahogan7248]

I thought the Church scene WAS the mid-movie fight. So then when it ended I was feeling empty because barely anything had happened

[@ValentinoTarhan]

Yes I was hoping we would get a few fights like godzilla vs kong, this movie should have been 2hrs obviously the runtime was heavily cut

[@cdxxlxil9159]

Hi, I'm a comic nerd and I'll explain some of the questions about Carnage and Venom Symbiotes naturally bond with hosts and likely bond through the skeleton or the Nerves in a human body to gain advantages such as hightened senses and durability. However is a special case since he merged with the host's blood which has its own upsides and downsides. Carnage has terrible senses and is easier to blind as well as a durability nerf which means that by default, he can't sustain in fights as long and is more effected by fire. However, he has several advantages through his more flexible shapeshifting which can allow him to make tendrils and fly. He even has enough matter in his body to tear off pieces of himself to launch at enemies like knives, spikes, axes and big ass blade. This is all because he has a ridiculous healing factor that can effectively heal from any wound as well as replace mass in his body with little risk. It is possible for Carnage to run out of blood to kill him or Cleatus, but he can always kill someone else and consume them to restore that blood. That's why killing the priest gave him a power up. The biggest downside to Carnage is his lack of experience with hosts and his naturally deranged mind being paired with another. Venom and Eddie work since they both have distinguished personalities with cooperative motives which allows for more creative thinking. Carnage doesn't have that since both him and the host have the same mindset with different motives. Another question asked alot is the knowledge of the symbiotes and their personalities. It really just boils down to the host; when a symbiote bonds with a host, they gain the knowledge, memories and some personality from the host. If they only have one host, the personality will be based entirely on that host. Venom just so happens to have mixed with dozens of people including Spiderman and Deadpool.

[@wDeXteR4]

How could you forget the part where Shrike despite living her entire life in captivity knew how to drive and drift like a pro stunt driver?

[@oneeGrimm]

Ok, so Venom, a symbiote with two major core weaknesses fire and loud sounds is chilling on a freaking rave paty?

[@kenzij]

It's not about the loudness of the sound, its about the frequency.

[@ogluqqychess4452]

its not loud sounds its certain wavelengths and frequency that cause their molecules to shudder

[@oneeGrimm]

@@ogluqqychess4452 will, it worked with church bell, a space shuttle, a Knull's hammer. I mean, have you heard rave music? It has plenty of variety of wavelengths and frequencies.

[@ogluqqychess4452]

@@oneeGrimm I might be talking out of my ass here, maybe it needs to be specifically concentrated at levels that arent sustained in rave music. as for the supposed weakness to fire, venom survived burning rocket fuel melting all over him and lives so idk man

[@nickinthecave]

@@ogluqqychess4452 its kinda bs, because 4000 hz are everywhere in normal day sounds even speakin voices, and it can't be a concentrated sound because the churchbell isn't one freq, as is shrieks voice. so yeah its bassicly like the rocket fuel, when the story needs it to be.

[@xalynden]

Wait, wait... you sinned the fact that he went to a gas station for the internet (fair enough) but NOT the fact that Carnage hacked the internet using just his tendrils?

[@wadesimmons7460]

In the comics, Carnage has been able to completely travel through the internet

[@xalynden]

@@wadesimmons7460 lol COMICS ARE WEIRD!!! But yeah, that's awesome and crazy that it's a thing.

[@mikegregory4386]

In the comics they use bits of carnage in cybernetic prosthetic limbs fo people, and carnage took over them. Those carnage limb infected people got to cleatus (in space and ripped in half) to bring him back and have carnage "heal" him back together and from being in space..... Carnage has some very OP powers.

[@ScrewBallTheAlien]

@@wadesimmons7460 come to think of it, that was set in a time where internet still ran through phone lines. I wonder how that’s supposed to work now? I could see Carnage traveling through Ethernet connections, but modern WiFi?

[@snapclub8751]

@@wadesimmons7460 I still find that the scariest ability Carnage can do.

[@DynamiteChannelist]

The relationship Venom has with Anne is definitely one of the reasons why this movie is so fun to watch. The way that Anne acts as a moderator between Eddie and Venom is glorious and hilarious.

[@Derpzilla-tw2ox]

I enjoyed a ton of what this movie had to offer, but the fact that Venom and Carnage are on near equal footing for the majority of their fight, given what we see Carnage is capable of as well as symbiote lore and how Venom reacts to Carnage, their fight shouldn’t have felt considerably less one-sided as it did between Venom and Riot

[@ScrewBallTheAlien]

Honestly, yeah. But Sony had no feasible way to bring in Spider-Man for back up, so they kinda had to balance it out just so Venom could somehow survive for film 3.

[@njrivetelite]

There is a system in certain prisons where you can pass notes through the pipes.. they flush the note and it can be "fished" out by another prisoner.. They also use the system to talk vocally by emptying the toilets. And it's like yelling in one pipe and the sound comes out through the other toilet. They call it "using the telephone".

[@villager2342]

how tf do you know this

[@md9838]

And how did you know this exactly? 🤔

[@MisssKayy]

@@villager2342 there was a show about it on Netflix.

[@njrivetelite]

@@md9838 they show it on some prison reality shows.

[@njrivetelite]

@@villager2342 prison reality shows lol Covid was a boring time.. I watched a lot of shit lol

[@Zombiesnyder13]

Marvel fans: "We want LET THERE BE CARNAGE to be R-Rated!!!!" Avi Arad: "'Let There Be Carnage' will be PG-13, so everyone can watch it, including the children."

[@LeonardoKlotz]

"FUCK THIS GUY!!!"

[@brettbaratheon9776]

@@LeonardoKlotz hahahaha!! Awesome. That and nobody likes you Dan, are the best lines in the film.

[@NIELL0_]

Also avi arad: lets do a movie where tom, andrew, and tobey are in it

[@skyrushyesminderaserno1150]

Marvel fans: F**K THIS GUY!

[@cocosweet1568]

It's so nice to see the narrator in a good mood also yes I do so adore this franchise.

[@onesketchyguy6050]

The return of the outtakes! Love it

[@coolguyyy9071]

Here’s a sin for Spider-Man: No Way Home Venom and Eddie Brock wasn’t in the MCU for that long

[@ahlethescout8404]

You didn’t realize that people would’ve actually hated the competition between venom and Spider-Man because venom is unlike anything from comics . In the end credit scene spoiler alert Eddie Brock and Verna are all the sudden thrust back into their dimension accidentally leaving some of the Symbiote in the MCU. Which means were potentially going to get a venom versus Spider-Man fight comic accurate we can potentially get Spider-Man versus comic accurate venom

[@christianparrish6647]

I saw that on KZbin, it is disappointing.

[@Oregonman2011]

@@ahlethescout8404 IDC what marvel does with Venom in the MCU but they better not make Harry Osborne venom I hate that version of Venom

[@daveagard1884]

Thank god, maybe the mcu can venom the right way

[@caitlinrix294]

Here's a sin for _Spider-Man: No Way Home_ : It exists. 😎😎

[@Shadow_The_Glitch]

I've seen this movie, and I can't stop wondering how the hell did they get to that beach...

[@christianparrish6647]

Well, in the first movie, it did show that venom can swim very fast, so that could be it. Or they snuck onto a random boat.

[@christianparrish6647]

@@olleselin did you not see the movie?

[@richard77231]

@@olleselin Post-credit scene, the bar that looks like is on some kind of beach.

[@silentbutdeadly364]

I guess the question is How did they get to Mexico from San Francisco?

[@eloy89]

@@silentbutdeadly364 San Francisco isn’t that far from Tijuana, Mexico.

[@zach8596]

Interesting that you showed Carnage and Joker at the end, because that was a crossover that happened. They got along really well.

[@aleksandarradovanovic8496]

You can see that Jeremy had so much fun recording this😁 and I think lately he has much more fun recording for CS in general. The lines are way more clever and goofier at the same time

[@Colin_]

For a 'Lethal Protector' Venom sure did kill a lot of innocent people that he was not compatable with while being away from Eddie.

[@agustinmex6986]

Well he did say "lethal" so whats a few cracked eggs from dozens?

[@Colin_]

@@agustinmex6986 the old saying 'can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs'

[@ScrewBallTheAlien]

I love how the movie just glossed over that fact. And shouldn’t they have all died almost instantly? Like the homeless test subject from the first movie that got bonded to the blue one? And how is it that both Anne and Mrs. Chen are both compatible hosts for Venom? Seems rather convenient.

[@Colin_]

@@ScrewBallTheAlien i know right.

[@hyperion_7809]

This might just be me but I think they made Cletus to sensitive and love bound . In the comics he kills because he likes it not because he is some sensitive lover.he is just a crazy killer and that’s why we love him

[@li-limandragon9287]

In the comics Carnage is evil to the core and even his own backstory like the Joker is contradictory and likely inaccurate.

[@antoniodavila4737]

I really thank y’all for existing because this is the quickest & easiest way to watch a movie I don’t really want to watch

[@melkhior9897]

I do enjoy Tom hardy's performance as venom and I get that not every hero has to be dark, however there was definitely potential for cletus to be really sinister and genuinely scary but every time he tried, venom kept cutting him off with jokes which was super irritating. The movie was OK but was also a missed opportunity considering how big of a villain carnage is to venom.

[@Alphasnowbordergirl]

No, Cassidy implied he was abused as a child. I remember thinking about it during the movie that it was pretty implied during his little story about killing his family and it was confirmed when Cassidy said it to Brock. Even when seeing Cassidy's story in the paper, I recall thinking that it seemed that it seemed to leave out the reason behind his actions. Now, I could be remembering incorrectly, but I think I'm sure.

[@ACWells13]

Yeah, he outright said it during his monologue. You're correct.

[@silentbutdeadly364]

Carnage: You are going to watch her die! Also Carnage: *proceeds to go to the top of the church where Venom can't see*

[@thephantomsplit]

Yeah actually, that's a great point! XD

[@ScrewBallTheAlien]

“You’re going to watch her die… from all the way down there. I’ve provided opera glasses and popcorn for your viewing pleasure.”

[@Raincally]

These song sins really made my day, I started singing along when he started singing "Up There" from the _South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut_ movie! It's my favorite movie yet! 😂👍

[@InfiniteFury2K]

My favourite _Comedy_ film.

[@kirkoli5001]

12:55 “Would you do it for a Venom Snack?”

[@avasimone2268]

i did not expect him to like this movie nearly as much as he did lmao

[@li-limandragon9287]

He lost me when he said he wanted more of these than Spider-Man movies. Like can give a take that bad.

[@FacelessNS]

This movie was a dumpster fire. I hate seeing what they’ve done to my favorite character. I was such a big fan of the comic books during my childhood years.

[@mxfilms9738]

@@FacelessNS this movie is is about 2hrs of nothing.

This was one I couldn't turn off my sin-brain while watching it.

[@sadaholic]

11:35 my headcanon is that mrs chen is a perfect host for venom cause why wouldnt she be 😤

[@rapiersister5032]

Loved the Bigger, Longer, and Uncut musical reference!

[@justinbocchino5141]

at 5:52 if you ride a motorcycle and turn the handlebars that forcefully to the right, the bike isn't gunna turn right. You're gunna fall down to the left

[@anacondasussymemes4845]

My favourite part is when Venom goes "FUCK THIS GUY!"

[@christianparrish6647]

The whole thing I love is venom cursing.

[@blueskies792]

@8:43 ummm Yes, there is. Symbiote progeny always try to eat their creator and yea it does make them stronger... not invincible but much stronger.

[@SpiderMonkey20s]

So glad the outtakes are back. Never heard why they were removed previously.

[@mrbrowniemuffin]

I didn't like how carnage and kletus were separate characters. That's what made carnage more interesting cause it was kletus running the show. Was more" I am carnage!" Then "we are carnage!" .

[@sebagonzalezmusic]

I enjoyed this movie for what it was and Carnage looked amazing, but it left me wanting more. It was too short (could've been at least 1 hour 50 minutes), Cletus/Carnage's motivations towards Eddie/Venom weren't clear (they wanted revenge for no reason), Carnage had little screentime (even less with Venom because they don't battle until the end), and the conflict between Venom and Eddie vying for control of each other started to wear thin (especially when they separated and went their separate ways again). Plus, Venom hopping from people to people after separating from Eddie and killing them, basically leaving a trail of dead innocent people in his wake, only to end up at a club seemed SO out of character. Especially since him and Eddie agreed to be good guys. I think having Venom and Carnage meet/battle 1-to-2 times before the finale or at least having Venom fight crime and bond even more with Eddie (ala Lethal Protector) while Carnage wreaks havoc in the background, leading to their eventual confrontation might've made a better overall plot. And giving Cletus/Carnage clear motivations for revenge would’ve made him more compelling as a character.

[@Arcanis_07]

I felt like the movie was about an hour and 37 minutes too long.

[@handev2604]

Yeah. I don’t know about you all, but I liked this film. It’s dumb, but I think it’s a fun kind of dumb.

[@ValentinoTarhan]

Yes similar to godzilla v kong I wanted to see a few fights & more story the fight between venom & carnage was to fast

[@tuckercline5477]

Cletus wanted revenge on Eddie for getting him the death sentence. As for Venom and Carnage, no idea

[@CodyFairlessLee]

You’ve literally read my mind.

[@killercaos123]

@3:30 Awesome South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut reference. Truly appreciated 👏

[@iamnotbread1632]

the reoccurring bit about the lamps is my favorite

[@jamesrodolfo8068]

6:13 Mythbusters said it was a confirmed but with a modern air dryer which has a safety mechanism she will not have died, unless it was a old hair dryer. Maybe the manufacturing companies added that safety because of the movies who knows.

[@chuckhoyle1211]

This movie had about 30 minutes of good ideas and more filler than a cheap hot dog.

[@fuzzykoala6168]

CinemaSins: complains about 47 seconds of opening logos Also CinemaSins: has 47 seconds of opening advertisement.

[@matthewherndon6488]

Seriously, you sin Cletus going to a gas station for an internet connection and not the newborn symbiote somehow being able to hack top secret government files by sticking a tentacle in some rando's laptop like he's USB compatible??

[@pez69]

Ok seriously. With all the singing you're making Jermey do, we need the EWW fully musical episode

[@shidbot421real6]

@@milea9028 wtf how much viruses u got? I don't wanna get a virus like I did on my Indian 2006 Nokia

[@christianparrish6647]

@@shidbot421real6 don't listen to that attention seeker

[@jon83chewy]

I honestly think he’s going a little overboard, I don’t mind it every once and a while but it’s becoming to frequent for my poor ears lol

[@brettbaratheon9776]

EWW singing, DING 🛎

[@sand1044]

Venom: let there be another symbiote guy with weird weapon tentacles

[@NightSide139]

If I remember correctly, Carnage IS stronger than Venom, at least in the comics. And 'red ones' are typically more aggressive and stronger than other symbiotes (could be wrong, don't quote me on it)

[@suffice1735]

3:24 Venom says he needs to feel the wind in his hair but he doesn’t have hair sooo… sin

[@jhamer18]

I personally think Andy serkis would've done a great job but I think he was pressured into making the movie fast and didn't have much freedom.

[@jon83chewy]

Hard agree, dude did a pretty good job with his version of Jungle Book and this movie didn’t really seem to have much of his thumbprint on it. I blame Sony for probably forcing their formula on the structure.

[@KhanMann66]

No he sucks as a director, period.

[@ScrewBallTheAlien]

Between directing this and having to be Alfred in The Batman around the same time, and then both films being delayed because of covid must’ve been quite hectic.

[@kshitizdavid800]

Thank you Cinemasins. I was waiting for this video.

[@lewisplayzgames4540]

At 12:50 I got an answer (I'm not sure if this is correct I've never read the comics but this is just information I gathered from the movies) By what ive seen the different coloured symbiote have different abilities/weapons. But venom doesn't have any because he is the 'loser on his planet' but we can see in riot and carnage they have different weapons, such as riot has shields bullets spikes maces swords ect while carnage has those tentical things, swords and bullets. And also the more heads carnage eats the more bigger and powerful it becomes. So this is the answer to your question you probably won't read this but I hope it helps someone. Ps if I'm wrong feel free to correct me.

[@Gfan-yi7tm]

Well, I certainly didn’t wake up today expecting to learn that Cinemasins LIKED the Venom sequel.

[@srgamingytp]

I've been waiting for this episode for soooooo long!

[@GdoubleWB]

So glad you guys brought back the audio outtakes! They were sorely missing.

[@dancingmonkey08]

They weren't missing, they were just in a separate video, with the link in the description. But I agree, they are better at the end of the video, rather than separate

[@sarahprince2412]

@@dancingmonkey08 What I want to know is WHY did they separate them in the first place? It made no sense to me.

[@phoenixnyc]

15:37- fun fact: Carnage and the Joker teamed up in a Batman / Spider-Man crossover. The inevitable breakup gave us one of the best Joker lines in *any* incarnation: "I've always considered myself to be the Orson Welles of crime and chaos, whereas you apparently aspire to be nothing more than....David Hasselhoff!"

[@PuppyTheTiny]

I loved this movie It was really fun The plot wasn't that deep but I didnt care Good watch :)

[@whatsthename22]

it’s wild to me how the first sin can be “47 seconds of logos” when YOU JUST MADE ME sit through 57 seconds of a shitty company’s ad

[@dragontalon9158]

You would be great at Cinemasins

[@Rclarke115]

@@dragontalon9158 _ding!_

[@ScrewBallTheAlien]

@@dragontalon9158 he just has his own mini segment where does nothing but critique the sponsorship ad reads.

[@Kentrc11]

These movies will always be discount Venom without Spiderman

[@oxfanblink4115]

You probably don’t remember Spider-Man 3 then if you’re not joking

[@Kentrc11]

@@oxfanblink4115 More like you're the one trying to joke here seeing as S3 had the most earnings of that trilogy

[@MyMMTop10Music]

I was crying when this came out thank you @CinemaSins!

[@ShiddyShad808]

I’ve been in San fransisco for a few weeks working, just went to the immersive Van Gogh exhibit, was super cool.

[@undead2783]

i have watched ciinema sins so much that i can predict some sins from a mile away now and some movies feel shit after watching cinema sins, worth it.

[@TheOneManWhoBeatYou]

Can we sin the fact that Cletus not only makes no attempt to hide his identity after he escapes and his face is plastered all over the news while walking through the crowded streets of San Francisco, but actively draws attention to himself by stealing a red convertible, causing a major wreck on the Golden Gate bridge and has a loud explosive fight in a church in the middle of a city in lockdown with only hyper vigilant cops patrolling it looking for him. And another sin for him getting away with it

[@wsgbrokie]

Ive been waiting for this man.

[@TheRedGameboy]

You should have sinned - Carnage riding in the tornado he created to mock the Warden - having the strength to create a tornado just by spinning like Jim Carey in The Mask. - A 2.5 day old alien plugging into a laptop and hacking it, giving a red custom background, getting access to restricted files gov't files. That hive mind may grant him knowledge of gov't and private entities from other universes, but I doubt there's a symbiote that has pesessed a hacker. And more importantly, they can't interface like that with electronics. That's excluding the 90 extra sins for bastardizing and killing off one of the most iconic villains of Spiderman.

[@traintrack3761]

11:25 Actually, Eddie said “cleaning toilets” but semantics.

[@Official_Aero_Veil]

I think the first thing that should’ve been sinned is the fact that Sony had the cajones to make a movie with CARNAGE…..a guy who is known for , oh I don’t know, KILLING ALMOST ANYONE HE COMES INTO CONTACT WITH……they decided to make the movie PG-13. Like, WHAT THE F*CK?!?! Have you NEVER read a Carnage storyline, Sony? Because I think this is a demonstration that you haven’t read a Carnage storyline 💀💀💀💀 So, for that reason ALONE, add 500 SINS!!!!!!!

[@Rclarke115]

Meanwhile we get Rated G Carnage in tons of animated stuff and he’s been handled just fine in those. I’m sure a PG-13 Movie wouldn’t hurt his image.

[@captainmcdiesel916]

I don’t get how sound is their weakness but venom goes to a party with loud ass music

[@henrytownshend8862]

Thanks for uploading

[@ThatKidWitTheAfro]

The sin on how prisoners pass notes thru the toilet…shouldn’t be sinned. That actually happens. Prison culture is an actual culture non the less 😂

[@Ishtarru]

I feel like all the superhero stuff was tacked on to what was clearly supposed to be a Venom/Eddie romcom.

[@malvinmathanda]

Legendary man keep them coming 🙌🏿

[@calebc-1379]

14:49 Just about the funniest roll credits I've ever heard😂

[@motherplayer]

3:15 It's the same world where a "struggling" reporter can manage to afford a 5,000 a month apartment on top of daily amenities, and that is still harder to believe than the alien goo. Don't you just hate when explicitly silly concepts get undermined by not taking care with the non-silly stuff?

[@skins4thewin]

I resent the part where you say its maybe not even a good movie. No, it's not a masterpiece, but I was thoroughly entertained by both of the Venom movies from start to finish. They are just simple fun popcorn flicks. That's a lot more than can be said about some of the lesser Marvel films.

[@JohnSmith-bn5mi]

They're not trying to be part of something bigger. They're trying to be fun.

[@Heisenberg_111]

Exactly what I am trying to say....it is an absolute entertainer🙃

[@IronyIsGod]

I thought the first one was enjoyable if throwaway but felt this sequel is valueless, dull trash. Each to their own but I didn't think it was remotely fun aside from a couple of the Eddie/Venom interactions. Reminded me of that second Ghost Rider movie.

[@birgittnlilli9726]

True. It was defintitly not the best film I ever saw but I was not bored for a minute and the Eddie- Venom Relationship is worth watching it.

[@anwenlokier2292]

12:47 in my school vr game Red Symbiote are Knull Royal guards

[@Menthix]

The outtakes are back! YES!!

[@dexthelord2488]

I feel like the comedy was so much more forced then the first movie and it didn’t flow that well

[@jessicahogan7248]

Agreed. My boyfriend was laughing through most of it but I thought this movie was cheap and nasty. Venom kicks ass and yet here he his squandering in a bar for comedy.

[@thephantomsplit]

I love this film. Yeah, it has a lot of flaws, but I still love it. Woody Harrelson is just a ton of fun to watch in this movie. I know it's not great, but it sure is entertaining for me.

[@jhamer18]

I think Andy serkis didn't have much freedom when making the movie and had to be rushed. He has talent and I trust him to make a great movie but I blame Sony on this one

[@spider-boy1962]

I thought this film was very mediocre. First movie was a lot more entertaining. 💀

[@olleselin]

@@spider-boy1962 i've seen really mediocre films

[@jon83chewy]

I agree, I like that they went for that romantic comedy parody feel instead of hamming it up like a typical superhero action film. I think it would’ve been even better if Serkis had more creative control but that’s not very likely for anyone if you’re doing a film for Sony.

[@cori8945]

My family gets so mad when I do this, but you do it and everyone loves it, this is my favorite movie and I just wanted to thank you for what you do, it brightens my day.