Everything Wrong With X-Men: Days of Future Past

[@ButtersPringles]

Crazy how literally everyone loves the quicksilver scenes the best

[@Tommybotham]

How is that crazy?

[@allpowerfulmitochondria759]

It's because Evan Peters is a sexy beast

[@zoloharris4305]

Yuppp to all that

[@evinc.5822]

Literally every time this movie is brought up in a conversation I’m having, the person will say how much they love Quicksilvers scenes.

[@naturesrevenge8758]

@@evinc.5822 Because it's one of the one respectable scenes from the movie. It's like eating junk food all day and then you have have an actually respectable dinner. If someone asked what you ate that day, you'd probably jump to mentioning the dinner rather than all the junk that left no impression.

[@jervismoraes8967]

“The bullet curved in the air” Must have been James McAvoy from Wanted who fired it.

[@annieme-tions]

Oh my God. I'm surprised no one else knows this

[@ZainIsInPain]

You would be great at CinemaSins

[@akilansundaram2181]

Haha, great reference.

[@heisen-bones]

ah yes, a man of culture

[@matildecouto4377]

Literaly what I thought when I saw that scene 😂

[@calebcombs3669]

Logan forgetting beast and Charles isn't a sin; that was 70's Logan regaining consciousness after future Logan lost control. 70's Logan hadn't met them.

[@tetsuokenpachi]

How did he regain consciousness without the link between them cutting, therefore ending the entire movie...

[@FM_LEGENDARY]

Thank you!

[@FM_LEGENDARY]

@@tetsuokenpachi He was only hopping between the timelines, and as he calmed down the links fixed themselves and he was back in 1973

[@loudboy317]

Actually, 70's Logan did meet Charles in First Class. That's why Charles had to remind future Logan of how he told him to "go fuck himself".

[@donovanb8247]

loudboy317 he didn’t look at them. He was facing the bar

[@zacharytung9413]

the sin at 13:27 is inaccurate: in the movie they specifically state that whatever logan does will only affect present day when he is released from being in the past.. so that could potentially mean that all the work he has done could go to waste if the sentinels kill kitty...

[@marcelinasandoval7064]

But wouldn't that wake him up? I mean, he's almost immortal.

[@heartless604]

Marcelina Romero he is immortal by definition.

[@Tainted_Human]

Pretty much all of the sins are his own jokes and inaccurate

[@tetsuokenpachi]

No. The movie's inaccurate because things still change as it goes along so fuck that movie.

[@OriginalPuro]

"in the movie they specifically state that whatever logan does will only affect present day when he is released from being in the past." That's just stupid.

[@weehoo2]

I actually really like the actors that play the younger Professor X and Magneeto

[@sebiga1207]

+Ronnie Derrell I don't think magneto was Jewish he was in Auschwiz because of his mutant powers

[@laalki80]

Yes, it does explicitly say he's Jewish: he has the gold star on his chest. Anyway, what does "Jewish" look like?

[@laalki80]

Ronnie Derrell There's no such things as pure bred or Aryan in humans.

[@daliakochnev9338]

and yet through ingenious interbreeding with others we come in all shapes and sizes imagine that

[@ritagomes7838]

There are albinos tho...those can be considered ''aryans'' so you are kinda wrong.

[@AUTOMATON2899]

Hulk: if you go to the past, that past is the present and the present is the past which means you're not changing the present. Nebula: exactly Scott lang: so X-Men days of future's past was bullshit?

[@totalwartimelapses6359]

Goddamn it you made me go back and check Endgame to see if he actually said X-men, only to remember he said Back To The Future

[@rishujeetrai5780]

It would've been so much awesome if Lang actually had said that for X-Men DOFP! Completely annihilating.

[@Cyrax4d]

D.arne OOOOF

[@oscarrenouf]

Rishujeet Rai but then it wouldn’t be possible for the xmen to be in the mcu.

[@joanmorroperello]

No, because in xmen Logan's mind is tranfered to 70's Logan, it's not time travelling. So hist past does not become his present, he was actually in his past

[@raidenfrizz]

11:42 The piece that was stuck in Magneto was a part of a Sentinel, and it isn't metal

[@aaronbradley3232]

Really? Well I have to say i never thought of that and ut ua certainly possible

[@soumantrikganguly1380]

Aaron Bradley yeah it was a sentinel shrapnel, wasn't made of metal

[@harpertayback8663]

It wasn't metal. That's just a fact. They literally said that in the movie. If the first sentinels weren't made of metal, of course the super advanced sentinels aren't going to be made of metal either. Bit weird for a very specific power like magnetism manipulation (which as far as they know, only one person has), and would cost millions, but they aren't made of metal, that's why he got stabbed.

[@masonmurphy2679]

Yeah they said in the film that the Sentinels were made from a space-age polymer that was non-metallic

[@allasian452]

@@masonmurphy2679 Even the first sentinels don't have metal because of magneto. If the future sentinels had metal than couldn't he just kill them??

[@Tokenblackguru101]

Days of Future Past is one of the best X-Men films made by Fox

[@tetsuokenpachi]

It's also one of the most dumb, nonsensical piece of shit ever made.

[@SirKolass]

@@tetsuokenpachi Cry hater lol

[@tetsuokenpachi]

@@SirKolass Love it, sucker lmao

[@SirKolass]

@@tetsuokenpachi I'm sorry, but your cerebral damage makes it hard to understand you :)

[@tetsuokenpachi]

@@SirKolass You can't understand me BECAUSE you're mentally damaged but you don't need to be sorry. I'm not judging you. ;)

[@jonathanreali1966]

Actually kitty says that the future wont change until they bring wolverine back and the past and future will coexist until then

[@LukeLovesRose]

And the film demonstrates that by showing the exact same scene whenever we cut back to the future... and there's a bunch of shit changing at the same time

[@tetsuokenpachi]

Yup, makes no sense at all

[@alexanderkilburg7415]

When Wolverine was thrown in the river, the X-Men could have all gotten killed then and the future would have been the same.

[@mrnukes797]

@@alexanderkilburg7415 I know that the Logan timeline is it's own but still

[@loudboy317]

@@mrnukes797 Not really. Logan is still connected to the other 2 Wolverine films via the adamantium bullet and Yashida's sword. It's also connected to First Class (Xavier remembering the "go F yourself" moment"), Days of Future Past (Logan is set after the ending), and Apocalypse (Wolverine's blood is collected at the end which is how both Laura and X-24 are created).

[@itsdolph2116]

Honestly they should've just sent Logan back to save Kennedy because if they had a MUTANT PRESIDENT then none of this would've happened in the first place

[@anibalx633]

*BOOM* Mind blown!

[@danielo3797]

Zach Wakefield facts bruh. The Logan event would've never happened

[@iamx3656]

What would kennedy power be

[@Acuda4me]

The power to bone women.

[@tainoroyal6585]

God yes, I wondered if I was the only one thinking this...Whole plot line is dumb

[@BigFrostySnapple]

There’s one MAJOR PROBLEM with this movie that’s been bugging me for YEARS and I’ve never seen it mentioned before. During the first Sentinel attack, There’s a scene where Blink makes a portal for Warpath so he can hit a Sentinel and then jump back out. He does this, but the Sentinel turns around and stabs Warpath thru the portal before Blink is able to close it. The portal then closes, slicing off the Sentinel’s arm which was still inside. They’ve just shown me that Blink + moderate protection can easily beat the Sentinels shown in the first fight scene. HER PORTALS, WHEN CLOSED WITH PART OF A SENTINEL STILL INSIDE, HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO CLEANLY SLICE THROUGH THE SENTINEL. She could open a portal anywhere underneath / behind a Sentinel and close it while part of the Sentinel is inside, instantly cutting the damn thing in half. Open one under its feet and the other above it’s head, close when it’s fallen halfway in, it gets chopped in two. Heck, she might even be able to do this to the carriers. If she opened one portal in front of a flying carrier, there’s nothing that makes me believe the portal wouldn’t literally carve a hole thru the entire carrier. God forbid if she made both portals in front of a carrier, then the matter going into one portal would be pushed out the other portal, which would also be taking in a similar amount of matter from also going straight thru the carrier... man I don’t even know at that point. I hope someone reads this because it’s been bugging me for years and none of my friends remember this movie. Fuck me.

[@DeletedZeroZero]

it has been 4 years, no one ever responded so let me be the one. as it has been said, the sentinels adept and learn abilities.. just like the borg in star trek..and the sentinels are networked. now imagine the sentinels having the ability to create portals bc one learned how to.

[@milonga_]

I mean technically she could, but the movie would end in the first few minutes.

[@xcaliber4141]

Movie can happen bruh and also eric can still get out whenever he wants as he can not only control metal but also create magnetic field iron is also inside his body or charles in future could control every human being or cyclops could kill every sentinel and also storm can hit people with lighting which is way higher than surface temperature of sun and also quick silver can mutilate everyone

[@xcaliber4141]

@@DeletedZeroZero they can just physically adapt they dont have dna which can change and control quantum fields gravity and somethings

[@BioYuGi]

There's a few possibilities here to theorize on. The first is that perhaps she doesn't 'intentionally' close the portals, but they have a small window where they remain open and they close automatically, but she probably closes some manually in the movie to disprove that. The second is that, since their fights keep getting retconned every time they're ambushed, in any timeline where she learns this ability, she forgets it when they travel back. The third is that the portal only gains that 'cut' ability at that moment because she had been killed.

[@Sup-rh4eu]

11:42 That is a piece of a Sentinel which is purposely not metal so magnet-like mutants can't control it, Magneto wouldn't be able to stop it

[@LukeLovesRose]

Exactly and it's being thrown at him just as fast as a bullet

[@BlackDiamond2718]

@@LukeLovesRose i thought that was the only reason which is why i let it go. Plus for dramatic effect. Didnt know it was part of a sentinel.

[@justsomeguy1136]

@@LukeLovesRose hes...magneto..it doesn't matter the speed of it. Thats not the problem. Problem was it wasn't metal. End of story lol.

[@LukeLovesRose]

@@justsomeguy1136 I got that

[@captainobvious7165]

@@justsomeguy1136 He never denied that, just added on the fact that it was pretty much impossible for him to stop it, you idiot.

[@SweenyTodd98]

Wolverine didn't know Xavier or Beast back in 1973, he didn't meet them until much later when they were Patrick Stewart and Kelsey Grammer thus when future Wolverine started slipping and 1973 Wolverine started regaining consciousness he had no idea who they were as he hadn't met them yet. Also Singer explained that the time travel in this movie works by nothing changes until the traveler or the observer (in this case Wolverine) snaps back to to his present time and then it then it sets. Wolverine snapped back just after Mystique dropped the gun effectively changing the timeline.

[@sickerpuppies]

Thank you. I came here to make the same point about the timeline staying the same until Wolverine snapped back but you beat me to it. My original thought with Wolverine freaking out and 'forgetting' who Beast and Xavier were was that it was happening at the same time Stryker was choking on the tazer (so in effect that future timeline was altered), but your explanation is better.

[@camdenpyne1564]

I'd also like to add that when he asks where the real Nixon is, the very next scene shows the real Nixon.

[@Niom_Music]

Doesn't that mean that the Wolverine in 1973 would like 'wake up' and be counfused as fuck? Wouldn't that maybe effect the future in some way?

[@galenmarek7107]

He would wake up not remembering anything during the time the future Wolverine took over. Which is why in Apocalypse, Jean searches his conscious and found a bit of the future Wolverine, which is why you hear Famke Jansen's voice.

[@ritagomes7838]

Actually Wolverine already had runned into (young) Charles before this time travel thing...Charles track him down and try to recrute him into the c.i.a. sponsored ''G-Men'' on the first class movie. You are right about Beast tho, because they only meet on the second timeline.

[@Brendyn4222]

How about the fact that Quicksilver could have helped stop Mystique?

[@jakelong312]

Too easy

[@Brendyn4222]

+Kylo Mundi Exactly!!!

[@japcloud]

In that case they shouldn't have introduced Quicksilver in the first place if he would've made the plot nonsensical.

[@themonopolyguy4365]

Yea you got that from hishe

[@croissant-kun4025]

+The Monopoly Guy whip laaash

[@RadagonTheRed]

5:40 - The bullets and indeed guns are NOT glass! Glass bullets/guns would shatter instantly upon firing. The bullets here consist of a reinforced plasto-ceramic polymer. The baton isn’t glass either, it’s reinforced perspex. If you’re going to criticise a film for silly exposition or bad continuity at least get the details you’re criticising right.

[@rodneynelson5580]

If ur going to criticize his work maybe don't watch it den biatch

[@rodneynelson5580]

And yes I know I spelled then and bitch wrong on purpose

[@calbin6309]

@@rodneynelson5580 Piss off, Rodney. It's an open comment section, not kiss-their-ass comment section. Criticism will happen whether you like it or not.

[@reedr7142]

@@rodneynelson5580 and "your"

[@SA80TAGE]

@@rodneynelson5580 the comment section isn't reserved only for people who like the videos, idiot.

[@almightykoopa1175]

"Just because someone slips or loses there way doesn't mean there lost forever" I actually like that line and the delivery of it alot.

[@camiart_casual]

The past and present really do happen concurrently until Kitty lets go. When she does the new past takes root. That's why they don't converge until she's shot by sentinel in the messed-up future. She actually explains this almost word-for-word at the beginning of the movie.

[@ritagomes7838]

Mandela effect for EVERYONE!!!! =P

[@marinascopm]

exactly... seriously, this guy pays attention to every little lame detail, but doesn't pay attention to the most important explanation of the whole film... THAT is a sin!

[@SA80TAGE]

but what they don't explain is her having that power in the first place... even as a secondary mutation it doesn't make sense, she walks through walls so she can send minds through time? Nope.

[@NeonSuperNovas]

If anyone should have been doing that it should have been Jean or Scarlet Witch instead of Kitty.

[@VinhNguyen-ox3zz]

Except Jean was killed in X-Men: The Last Stand in that timeline. Scarlet Witch, sure, but I chalk it up to her having already been killed by sentinels.

[@trylogy8095]

Wouldn't Quicksilver play his song at 10 times the regular speed? 🤔

[@tetsuokenpachi]

Could you do that back then? On analog cassetes? When you're a teenager living in a basement???

[@tetsuokenpachi]

Wait, does he also change the speed at which he records to match his own changes of speed?? In advance???

[@studiofranky158]

Why 10 times? He heard 1.17 minutes of the song in half a second. The time it took the bullets to reach the target. That means he should have heard 150 times faster.

[@Nikigun]

10 times more like 9999 times

[@papplejooz2137]

@@tetsuokenpachi yeee, theres a scene where hes being met by wolverine and Charles and his pong machine is sped up, so its likely that he knows how to program his pod like that.

[@hutsalot9397]

12:44 The change in the timeline was specifically said not to take effect until the person with the time travel powers, stops using their power on the person who is time travelling.

[@unusualbydefault]

Hutsalot yeah this train of sins because of this bothered me too. The funny consequence tho...all the dying was utterly pointless. ^^ could have disconnected after Charles talked to Charles, same result or am I missing something?

[@Daicidus]

You put a sin because Magneto didn’t curve the bullet to save JFK in time despite the fact that in the same sentence he says he was stopped midway through moving it.

[@tetsuokenpachi]

Stopped how? The movie clearly shows that he can curve one without even seeing it.

[@ghost-wl3pm]

@@tetsuokenpachi i think they might have had one of those things that stops their powers like in deadpool 2 don't really think so cuz that was in the 60s

[@justsomeguy1136]

@@ghost-wl3pm both Deadpool movies take place back then, as seen by when the young versions of the xmen close the door when wade goes "where the hell is everybody?" So, that could have been a possibility.

[@Harlarryus]

@@justsomeguy1136 that was just a 4th wall breaking joke from Deadpool. It’s definitely not set back in the 60s/70s

[@tristanmarkranillo5776]

@@tetsuokenpachi Maybe he was knocked out.

[@CinemaSins]

Jesus, yes, the movie states that nothing in the present changes until he wakes up. Our point is... that's f*cking stupid.

[@MakerFlakes]

Noice

[@aumillenium9127]

How would 1973 Wolverine recognize Beast or Xavier if he has never met them before?

[@NightTarja2]

The movie is terribly flawed and exists only to say that the others don't. But I understand why people are arguing that as not being a flaw, as the whole thing is stupid. You can't just pick and choose which things to ignore. Though, to your credit, that explanation is still a flaw because during the scene he "wakes up" and is sent back to the future...at least partially. Time should have instantly rewrote itself and they would not have been at the temple.

[@CoversByDC]

fuck you!

[@MrMagic322]

The thing is it 2 different timelines. He is creating a different timeline, while that is happening. So his world is still the same, he woke up in a different timeline.

[@demoskunk]

Mystique's mutant powers allow her to LOOK like someone else. She can't actually take on the abilities of another mutant, so why the hell can the Sentinals??

[@dariuspeyton6239]

demoskunk thats what I am saying I was could never get passed that concept.

[@bruceleeroy8302]

demoskunk I always thought this story line was better suited towards Rogue, since she can take on the powers of anybody. But, alas, she was used as the plotline of the first X-Men movie. Which didn't make much sense either...

[@HarrySaxonEarthboy]

demoskunk It's shown in a deleted scene that Rogue was also kidnapped and they used her power to take other mutant powers to create the Sentinals.

[@heartlessangel2910]

demoskunk This is so true. Remember in X-Men when she impersonates Wolverine and he cuts her "claws"? Cosmetic and imitation.

[@madijelli1416]

+Harry Saxon That's awesome, but why wouldn't they let something so important be in the first cut of the film?

[@alexsmith7763]

Should take a sin off for every minute quicksilver is in the movie

[@lugiacatster6920]

Am I the only one who hates quicksilver

[@JamesIsAway]

Lugia Catster yes

[@mewtwo367]

Lugia Catster Why tho

[@MM-vs2et]

About 12

[@nerdsubtome7964]

Lugia Catster yes

[@lauraafjs]

I LOVE the Quicksilver kitchen scene n i completely AGREE he needs to be in it more.

[@kevanaberdale7562]

X-Men apocalypse was really good but wolverine should have replaced Jennifer Lawrence and he should have had on that comics after costumes just like the rest of the accident also should have been in charge of everything that if ever existed but I wasn't that's why I get to kill my family and go into a paradise because I'm tired and I gave my blood to an ancient fat fetish deity 😁🤗😚😘😚☺️😘😆😄😃😃😀😊😆😁😄😍🤩😛😝😋😜🤪

[@Aethrius]

Funny that they use mystique when there was a mutant in First Class that adapts to survive his environment. Granted he died, but still

[@Screamface-q1v]

Braden Spencer how Darwin died was bullshit considering he can adapt to everything but that's in the past

[@SixSwansVodka]

how would you adapt to survive pure energy being forced down your throat?

[@orcatwar9810]

in the rouge edition rouge was captured so with the mix of mystique and rouges powers made the sentinels

[@SixSwansVodka]

@DivineCypher9590 his power was to adapt to different environments, not adapt to different elements of energies, so he can't just turn into energy.

[@pyroveus5408]

Darwin could’ve used a form that can absorb a portion of the energy (such as forest or coral), and then switched to rock to hold through until the energy is gone. That, however, would have taken ALL of his effort. Also, we see that the main reason Darwin died was that he lacked faith in himself. We see him reach out toward Alex (Havok) in an attempt to say goodbye, and that was what sealed his fate. To be fair though, he hadn’t gone through Charles’ training at the time.

[@Toasty667]

Blink doesn't need to open a second portal because the the 'second' portal is actually the first still. Its like bending space to appear somewhere so there's a gap.

[@trumanb2391]

CinemaSins needs to read the comic am I right

[@davesyndrome1097]

+Toasty667 Then how does she control how much space bends?

[@davesyndrome1097]

+itsdastuff Are you saying they have to devote processor time to "mimicking" the nuclear weak and nuclear strong forces? Why would they need to do that? They're robots made of baryonic matter like any other object. "Gravity" also simply doesn't explain this portal power. By what mechanism does she control the position of the portal's exit? Is it decided _before_ she throws the little implosion frisbee? _After_? Is the exit position a natural consequence of the entrance position because she's sensing some kind of gravitic current that has properties she understands? Or is it randomly determined?

[@twigstwigs2]

+Toasty667Ikr she is the coolest

[@lueroifan12]

+davesyndrome it's not fucking real life you idiot. Don't expect explanation that makes sense

[@ty8626]

I think those were plastic guns not glass

[@pixul9815]

See! I'm not the only person that thinks this.

[@tribunalcustodian3989]

Same

[@kittyod9492]

Pretty sure they said plastic in one of the other movies like the third X men.

[@alexanderboxall750]

Yeah, I'm 99% sure another X-Men Film said they're plastic...even so, still on thin ice xD.

[@markvelo1004]

ikr cause they even said that in x3

[@RUI-ge6jd]

7:14 The quicksilver scene was a masterpiece❗

[@Ragnell123]

My question is, where is quicksilver in the future? There's no way he could've died, since he can basically approach the speed of light (being able to slow down time from moving so fast). Seems like he could've been a lot of help in the past and the future.

[@xIRiseIx]

Ragnell123 ....He's spent 50 years updating his Pepsi memorabilia collection...duuuh

[@syafiwyd8926]

SPOILER WARNING! SPOILER WARNING!! SPOILER WARNING!!! Idk but he dies in Avengers:Age of Ultron XD

[@jdjohnson1591]

Crafter 882 SPOILER WARNING, MAN!!!

[@syafiwyd8926]

Shet forgot bout that

[@xIRiseIx]

Kev Barredo Nest.

[@Nathan-yq8en]

This whole movie would have made a lot more sense if they based the sentinels off Darwin as he adapts and mystique just shapeshifts

[@ibriselric2]

+Nathan Price Yeah but considering the "past" part of the movie takes place *after* First Class, Darwin's already dead so no chance of it happening

[@itsthehallway7685]

+Rafael Calderon that's why they shouldn't have killed him off

[@ibriselric2]

ProdiJay True, still they had to kill someone in that scene if only to prove Shaw is a right b*****d and Darwin's mutation was the least spectacular one battle-wise so he drew the shortest straw. Considering they had originally planned a direct sequel to First Class which eventually turned into DoFP they didn't have a reason to keep him alive at the time. Well, hindsight's always 20/20 or so they say

[@Damassan]

+Rafael Calderon Death didn't stop Darwin from coming back in the comics. Heck, that's half of what he did in the comics.

[@itsthehallway7685]

+PhasicInverter since when do the movies do things by the book?

[@nexusshark]

The one shrapnel Magneto couldn't stop was from a Sentinel, which he cannot controle. Also, past and present co-exist as long as Logan's mind is still in the past. As soon as Kitty disconnects him and Logan awakes, history is altered.

[@JadeyCatgirl99]

12:58, also that mutant got a job a day after returning from Vietnam. He's doing better than most veterans.

[@paradisecityX0]

Most of them have seen some THINGS

[@ritagomes7838]

Actually an ''elevator'' can be all made of wood and ropes (no metal) and still work perfectly and be safe to use... sooo *ding* on CinemaSins?! =P

[@mrmoneybags]

1. You're taking this video too seriously. 2. That elevator definitely was not made out of wood and ropes. :P

[@ritagomes7838]

mrmoneybags Plastic then? I mean, they mastered the acrilic to make metal free firearms by that time so, my over-thinketive mind keeps pressing me to defende my point... ( someone as to ''ding'' the ''dingers'', right?)

[@DJTinyTim13]

I'm gonna have to sin you for stealing the "Who watches the watchmen" bit from Watchmen (DING), but then remove it because...reasons; and because it was clever (GNID).

[@jerbil9353]

It's actually a phrase thousands of years old. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? is a Latin phrase found in the work of the Roman poet Juvenal from his Satires (Satire VI, lines 347-8). It is literally translated as "Who will guard the guards themselves?", though it is also known by variant translations.

[@hexenmeister4978]

I like how you forget that an elevator/ slide-door to Magneto's cell needs electricity conducted by *metal* to function

[@gmaxion2001]

"You're afraid and Cerebro knows it." X-Men fans know that Cerebro is actually a living being that Xavier keeps trapped in the mansion and is also why the Danger Room is so badass. Hell, it gets loose and tries taking the X-Men out. They should make that movie. X-Men: Cerebro.

[@LionWithAGun]

so many sins on this are just him not paying attention to what's been said by the characters. kitty explained the time travel, they showed there were two nixons, Logan can't die from drowning, you can fight a person and still be calm (especially when nothing they do can kill you), sun spot isn't a knock off human torch. he's way more powerful.

[@snatchadams69]

LionWithAGun why can't Logan drown again he needs air to breath right? healing power doesn't keep water out of your lungs...

[@LionWithAGun]

snatchadams69 yes the water won't leave his lungs but when you drown it's not the water that kills you. It's the loss of brain cells from lack of oxygen. So when his brain cells start to die, his healing factor will repair and keep them intact. So yeah he can live through drowning

[@snatchadams69]

But he still needs oxygen his body can't produce oxygen his healing factor is finite your heart needs oxygen too if you can't inhale your blood can't flow no blood to the brain equals brain dead

[@LionWithAGun]

snatchadams69 you don't die from lack of blood flow. You die from your brain cells dying. Lack of blood flow just leads to the brain cells dying, but his healing factor will repair them . so he won't be brain dead. That's actually physically impossible for a person with that healing factor. He'd most likely be in like an absent state of mind while under the water. He might be unable to move or know where he's at after some time but he'll be very much alive

[@snatchadams69]

What!? If his body is dying his healing factor is useless it was a logic hole plain and simple Logan's healing power can do a lot but it can't stave off drowning...

[@TripleXMango]

Logan doesn’t lose his memory during the scene at 9:05. His mind is shredded by the time shift, and it takes him a few minutes to repair his brain. This is why it wasn’t Charles who went back in time.

[@EddieFreak]

Plastic not glass right? There were a lot of sins that were stupid in this one... Maybe because I love this movie

[@EddieFreak]

Also, the future doesn't change until she lets go... Pay attention bro

[@ShiningDarknes]

Have you not seen the one where they sin themselves? They do these for comedy not because they necessarily think these things actually detract from the movie.

[@ShadeSlayer1911]

Also, because you actually paid the fuck attention. I like these sin videos, but sometimes they get lazy.

[@rosvel92]

Agree, while Wolverine can't change anything under the sea, going by the time travel rules of this movie the old timeline does not cease to exist until Kitty stops using her mind power, so while Wolverine is underwater, technically he is still time -traveling, and if someone ot it him out of water he could continue changing the timeline as long as Kitty doesn't let go, so it's not a plothole

[@snatchadams69]

rosvel92 so kitty could stop wolverine from dying? seems legit...not really...

[@akaakaakaak5779]

You can remove half these sins by realising that whenever Kitty (I think that's her name) uses her time travel power she actually creates a new timeline (otherwise you run in to obvious paradoxes that's I'm surprised weren't mentioned in this video). That's does make her by far the most powerful mutant (she creates universes) but it also means that the Charles and Magneto and gang that we knew for the first few movies still die by the sentinels, it's just that the story now follows a different time line.

[@sanderflop]

I don't see how it creates new universes. She sends people back in time and when she brings them back the effects of the people she had sent back are put into motion and the previous timeline is erased

[@akaakaakaak5779]

sanderflop If the previous timeline is erased then they don't go back in the first place- paradox.

[@sanderflop]

Akaakaaka ak no it was only his conscience

[@akaakaakaak5779]

sanderflop Yes, but his conciousness still needed to be sent back..

[@sanderflop]

Akaakaaka ak okay fine you have a point time travel creates a new timeline but it dissolves the old timeline and her powers aren't that extreme because she usually only sends people back a couple days

[@thebagelbomb]

You see, as they said in the movie, all the changes to the timeline only take effect after the time traveling thing stops.

[@niklasgransjen684]

This, so many sins are wrong because he didn't get this.

[@JaelinBezel]

So in other words: "Meanwhile, in the Future"

[@profoakton]

I've actually noticed that they do this quite a lot in movies, where they skip over details they later sin or scenes they skip. I'm assuming this is intentional as it happens quite frequently and my only assumption for this is to be able to give more sins, because they can.

[@liamsullivan411]

Cody Hines h

[@JaelinBezel]

Liam Sullivan i

[@hannahpickering8742]

Yeah some of this sins are a bit of a stretch, and can be pretty easily disproved with some basic logical thought and research on the characters/plot

[@TheCoogs76]

I was going to comment this. If he would have research the actual story a lot of these sins would be gone

[@groovyq7910]

Apocalypse the quicksilver scene deserves 20 minus sins

[@radpunk5144]

totally agree

[@groovyq7910]

+* AkaTsubasa * tank you

[@radpunk5144]

MR.DANGER your welcome

[@joonasjantti8613]

yes

[@groovyq7910]

+Joonas Jäntti thank you

[@TickedOffPriest]

5. That is Pyro. *Correction Sunspot. 17. It is not the knowledge, but the ability. 18. When is the last time you were able to program AI into a shapeshifting robot over night? 28. Military hierarchy. 29. She was not ready to kill yet. 33. It was made to control mutant abilities, the spine thing was a side effect. 43. He wasn't exactly an ally. 67. Humanity, even in the real world would fear anything that is different. Get that through your heads CinemaSins. 69. Because Magneto had such an amazing reaction speed to a friggin bullet. With the one to Mystique he actually had a chance to know that a shot could be fired. 73. I am going to go out on a limb and say that she can alter her skin at the phenotypic level with some sort of shapeshifting ability. 75. It is not that hard to figure out where she would be. 104. As mentioned earlier, that tech is not easy to perfect and governments always keep secrets. 105. Many of those exits are made of concrete which easily falls apart when dropped from the air with the weight of a stadium above them to add additional pressure. 111. It would add precious seconds. What, would attacking them or standing still have been a better option? I have already knocked off 14 sins, we are down to 118. I love messing things up.

[@DynamicGames99]

I thought that was Sun Spot...?

[@TheRonster9319]

That's Sun Spot dumbass pyro is not even in the movie

[@TickedOffPriest]

Pardon me. How many mutants are there, many of which with the exact same powers.

[@TheRonster9319]

TickedOff Priest yeah but their powers are both related to fire that's pretty much it. Sun Spot takes his energy from the sun and gains super strength, the ability to fly, becomes engulfed in flames, and can produce fire. Pyro can't create fire but can manipulate it and that's it.

[@likenem]

That isn't Pyro. Pyro can't produce fire as stated in the 2nd film I believe

[@BornLosersGaming]

Hey, just wanted to say that the scene with Quicksilver running in slow motion with the music actually could make sense. The music is running at an accelerated speed, to keep up with how fast he's able to move. So if we were to hear it at normal time, it'd be super sped up. But because everything is slowed down, the music sounds as if it's normal!

[@TheMerkWithTheMouth]

Really? The guy runs fast enough that seeing him running in slow-motion (regular slow-motion, mind you, not super-slow-motion) means seeing bullets barely moving at all. He did NOT modify his tape player to play music at that speed. Not with the technology available in 1973.

[@Fire-in-the-sky]

Chris Merkel Studios he accelerated that pong game, is that hard to believe he also accelerated his music player? they have glass/plastic guns, dna detection tech, fucking ROBOTS, and a bunch more but fast forwarding a music player is too much for you? Update: "Not with the technology available in 1973." really? they had fucking working robots that could motherfucking fly, a music player that can fast forward isnt much of stretch of the imagination is it?

[@TopRameen13]

Chris Merkel Studios No BLG is right. It's because all motion is relative. Quicksilver, when viewed from his own inertial frame of reference, is moving at a "normal" speed and consequently the tape player which is in the same inertial frame will run at the "normal" speed relative to him. It has nothing to do with the tape player, it's physics...it's not supposed to make too much sense haha ;)

[@Fire-in-the-sky]

***** again they have more advance technology that we have now, fastorwording a music player isnt that hard to believe

[@hundredpercentmetal]

The way i see it, is that the music is actually going really slow, but they put it in as background music for the movie to make the scene funnier. I dont actually think that quicksilver hears the music as it goes at that time. Maybe he puts the headphones on because sound is fucked up when he's moving that fast. As Quicksilver's power isnt really moving fast, as he perceives time way slower than everyone else.

[@ahuman3642]

I love how even Marvel prefers this quicksilver

[@Trickst0rm]

I think the worst sin is that in the comics it was Kitty Pryde who went back but in the films they were like, you know what we don't have enough of? Wolverine-centered films, even though 5/6 of the X-Men films have been centred around him!!

[@Sirkwill]

Because he's a badass

[@sebastianmobil48]

Reaper Nation haha

[@aspie182]

Evvie Saunders I get tired of explaining this, but I will do it more cryptically this time. Go and look at the box office returns versus budget of every film that Ellen Page has starred in. Starred as in been the name and face on the theatrical one-sheet. Then look at the box office returns versus budget of Hugh Jackman's films where he has had his name in big bold letters. Jackman has proven he can turn a profit on ~200 million dollar films, if that helps. I do not like it anymore than you do, but studios do not greenlight films unless someone is in front of the camera a lot of the time with a consistent "made profit" resume. That is why Kevin Bacon was in First Class.

[@bakerbuff2474]

It was explained that Kitty Pryde couldn't transfer her consciousness back to the 70s since she wasn't born yet. Besides the movie did a pretty good job of chopping down the wolverine-centric storyline. It was more about Professor X, Magneto and Mystique while Wolverine was more of an advisor. lol

[@the2kgods877]

MattyFizzle04 Clearly you're not a comic book fan...~2K Gods

[@TotallyNotALolicon]

"I'd paint myself blue to f••k Mystique" me to

[@sgtpenguin4295]

SC Garrett that's just 100000% weird

[@theruddyone6443]

Me to lol

[@Jay-uu5lu]

What the fuck

[@Logan-jw2hf]

Wouldn't we all?

[@jessedemler7501]

I'd tattoo all my skin blue and my hair red just to fuck Mystique.

[@lsmpw]

I kind of feel you picked on some things that were explained and missed some big ones that weren't. Like, if Logan wakes up in his body in the future, wouldn't that be kind of sad for the Logan who was inhabiting his body all those years? Actually, since all the other characters in the future just disappeared due to the change in time continuum, woudn't Logan just continue in the 1973 reality, the only question being which Logan consciousness was left inhabiting the body?

[@CaptainDoomsday]

It seems like a Dragonball Z thing, where the Future Logan timeline is probably still real, and he just swapped the canon over to one that sucks less. And stole hs counterpart's place in it. Presumably becoming either brain-dead or swapping places with the one who had been living there. Though if brains morophlogically store information, I assume Prof. X can just poke his mind in the right spots and revive all of the current canon's memories.

[@LokiLoverForever99]

It would make more sense - seeing as new Logan creates as new timeline - if they went back to Logan from when he first got their and showed the scene from when he first arrived but different to show that its the actual 80's Logan. Then ethier have 2020's Logan ethier dissappear and re-enter his body in the modern day. Or show him escaping which would confirm weather or not he had to relive through the 50 years.

[@MyCakePop]

I love James McAvoy especially as Professor X.

[@sirius_raspberry]

Maybe Quicksilver is playing "Time in a bottle" at a faster speed.

[@virgin5415]

it been a year, man...

[@a7x116]

and break his walkman

[@mynameis______392]

+tuck because science is a bitch but super speed is even bitcheir! (Made that word up)

[@karkatvantas9667]

There was a theory video on this that the headphone things made an air pocket in his ears that traveled at the same speed as him when it was moving with him and all that

[@marcobazan4187]

go watch the Nerdist, he explains how this is possible

[@Segimaru]

3:16 I've read that in First Class they had multiple takes where Hugh said "Fuck Off". And then in one of them he changed that to "go fuck yourself" without Fassbender and McAvoy knowing blah blah blah... they editor fucked up.

[@dickgrayson7223]

Well that wouldn't change the accuracy.

[@niewesoa5299]

It still makes sense in-universe... I mean, how is Charles supposed to remember a single line word-by-word, heard some ten years ago from someone he hasn't had any interactions with until now? It's a wonder he actually remembered Wolverine at all as well as his general attitude. Maybe I'm weird but personally I don't think I would be able to remember someone I interacted with so briefly after ten years.

[@Blissy09]

let's also not forget the fact that Charles was pretty out of it, he was drinking, and using weird medicine to surpress his powers, and he was just overall emotionally exhausted, so it's not that he wasn't accurate...maybe he just didn't care enough to be accurate?

[@pjamese3]

Adding to that (in-universe), "Go fuck yourself" is more American - and I guess Canadian - slang. Isn't "Fuck off" more British slang? Charles might have remembered the general tone of the meeting and that Logan cursed at them. He just auto-corrected the curse for British slang.

[@atticusgal4305]

They both mean the same thing. They just phrased it differently. Plus it's been like however many years so why would Charles recall exactly what he said

[@rachelkim5776]

When Magneto wanted to kill Mystique, he didn't think about how that would just defeat the purpose bc he would have had to clean up the blood and take her dead body w him or else the scientist would find her dead body/bloody mess and then experiment on her therefore making the sentinels more advanced.... So yeah major sin. I'm surprised you didn't talk about that.

[@snaplesugar]

KUDOS! That's brilliant. I wouldn't have noticed that/thought about hat at all until I saw this comment. Thumbs up! :)

[@rachelkim5776]

***** he could have waited until they safely escaped and shot her then. If he killed her then and there he would have made sure blood droplets weren't there, and have had to lug her body around. That would have slowed him down and increase their chance of getting caught

[@lizziekarina]

***** yup he need living brain tissue

[@Orb_Weaver]

***** They didn't need more than her blood because they made the sentanels using the blood from when Mystique was shot

[@rachelkim5776]

***** yeah a stadium w metal components which mystique is not made out of. But yeah generally they needed more than her blood to technologically advance

[@sabrinamcclain162]

It was explicitly explained in the beginning of the movie that the changes to the timeline don't take effect until Wolverine wakes up

[@lisamurphy7028]

which is actually why Kitty staying alive matters in the first place. These guys must have as much amnesia as they keep ranking on this movie for.

[@wacky9888]

I've been watching so much CinemaSins that whenever a movie opens up with narration, I instinctively yell, "Narration!". I get many strange looks.

[@adrianshelton8260]

The strange looks probably happen because "narration" is a word many people don't understand, apparently, have never heard that word used in a text.

[@chrisgiesen8962]

No you don't

[@nihilquil765]

You yell "Narration!" when watching a movie with people? Just in private dwellings or in theaters as well? Either way, it's a strange thing to do. You're strange and deserve strange looks.

[@Frank_D14]

_ WackyRoar _ I always have the “have the villain eat an apple, it make them seem like more of an asshole” comment!

[@angeldark404]

I actually have a habit of using "Because random ____ is random"

[@matman000000]

1. So Xavier, Beast and Wolverine helped Magneto escape from Pentagon and were partially responsible for all the mayhem he caused, but they get no repercussions what so ever? They'd be rotting in jail for all eternity! 2. If Magneto put metal inside the robots, he could only control their movement, not make them his slaves and give them orders. 3. A continuous tension between humans and mutants grows into an apocalyptic war. But when a bunch of mutants cause panic around the world, invade a political meeting, drop a stadium on the White House and threaten to kill the US president, it somehow stops any attempts of the government to eliminate or control them. 4. How the hell is Xavier alive? 5. Why did they need Magneto? 6. Magneto said the tried to save Kennedy. But if the bullet trajectory was visibly curved, it would mean that it would have gone in a completely different way if he hadn't controlled it.

[@Connor-ONeill]

these are the ones i know the answer to 3.ONE mutant threatend the president but 4 saved him. it would be wrong to judge an entire group on one bad egg. 4. Xavier had a twin brother who was born in a brain dead coma thanks to his powers,before he died Xavier transferred his mind into his brothers body 5. mystique would be more likely to listen to them if both Xavier AND magneto told her to stop. 6. magneto was tackled to the ground before he could fully deflect the bullet.he wouldn't have killed Kennedy on purpose since he was also a mutant with the power of Tacto-Hypnosis

[@alternifeind15]

Where your other comments are concrete, I'd like to point out you obviously don't read the comics. Because if you did it would explain why Xavier can be alive.

[@itsallfunky4591]

Well 3. Without Mystique's DNA that would be a little hard to continue.

[@Zamolxes77]

You forgot to mention that adding all that metal inside the robots, would shoot their flight characteristics to hell and back. Oh and what the fuck were those things? Plastic Ironman copies?

[@matman000000]

alternifeind15 I'm talking about movies, not comics. If you have to read several comic books to understand a plot, there's something wrong with the movie.

[@NatePolite]

If Mystique was actually the one who pulled Wolverine from the river at the end of this movie, then how the fuck did he end up in Stryker's base in Xmen Apocalypse?

[@TheDevilDog90]

Apocalypse is set ten years after this so Striker could have gotten him in that amount of time.

[@NatePolite]

+TheDevilDog90 still doesn't explain how he ended up at the school in the future of DOFP. He woke up to everything being fine.

[@tiredraven4668]

+Nate Polite That was technically the same year as whenever the Sentinels attacked, just altered.

[@NatePolite]

Brandon Vasquez yeah I know. I said future because it's set in the year 2052 or something...

[@thealanator6116]

+Nate Polite the movies are set in different timelines

[@lydmilalytvynchuk3915]

"no metal beyond this point" I see plenty of metal in the kitchen though

[@RobertstoletheTARDIS]

You know, Quicksilver only uses the headphones as ear protectors and maybe he sped up his music after realizing its too slow for him thus the same speed as him

[@MrXerothor]

This is too meta

[@r8myers]

I thought that too it's easy to do that

[@LiarraSniffles_X3]

I think that too but if this was real-tea, how would the music player know exactly when to speed up the music? Even if he just used a button, if you listen to music that was made to be sped up, it doesn't sound the same due to sound artifacts and the speaker limitations. Try speeding up some music, then recording it fast, then slowing down the recording. It sounds weird.

[@alfa0i0omega]

Moves fast enough to make bullets appear slowmo, headphones manage to stay on his head.Physics....Quicksilver doesn't give a damn.

[@RobertstoletheTARDIS]

well can't he also make other things as fast as him? idk but it seems like a loop hole marvel would use

[@KreSade01]

My problem is that Wolverine had his metal claws way before 1972. Stryker was a lot older by then. This movie also shows that Wolverine without his claws is pretty much worthless.

[@g-luisy5253]

The first X-men came out in the year 2000. By then Wolverine had lost his memory by fifteen years. That means he lost his memory around the year 1985 (maybe earlier, but only by a few years), right after he got his metal claws. The comics time periods don't matter in the movies, since they don't make sense in terms of age and time of setting. In X-2, Stryker would've been in his mid fifties or older since that took place right after the first X-men movie, meaning still in time period of 2000-2001. If he were a lot older in 1972, he would've been a lot older in X-2 as well. So in movie canon, Wolverine wouldn't have had his metal claws, and Stryker would've been in his early to mid twenties to make the other movies make sense, right before they were erased from canon. Also wolverine is useless against Magneto, with or without his claws.

[@phoenixrising7777]

I like that Wolverine has to be more of a teacher because it's a good arc....but yeah they should have just had him wake up with adamantium claws and keep them in happy epilogue land. Xmen has always been about bittersweet endings.......this one just felt like someone pressed the Staples button.

[@TheTadpoie]

Luis Villalobos Wasn't it the Vietnam War that Stryker found Wolverine and his brother? And wasn't he a lot older looking in that movie than in this one? And wasn't the Vietnam War in the 60s, not the seventies? Forgive me if I'm wrong here. So, therefore, the Xmen timeline is all sorts of fucked up and trying to make sense of it is as useless as Wolverine against Magneto.

[@g-luisy5253]

TheTadpoie The vietnam war started in the sixties and ended in the year 1975. Stryker took wolverine on a mission after finding him in that time period. Six years after that mission, Stryker then had Wolverine get the adamantium claws. So the latest possible date for Wolverine to get his adamantium claws would be 1981 (at least in terms of X-men origins: Wolverine) and while Stryker looks old at the beginning, the only thing that makes sense for him to look that old in that movie after X-men days of future past is stress. Stress makes you look older, especially if you have enough of it. Of course, that's only if you care about X-men origins: Wolverine, and most people don't, so it's not surprising if they left that movie out.

[@KreSade01]

Styker was Wolverines general. He was a lot older by that time.

[@thedombomb5542]

I actually really like Days of Future Past. I believe the way it affects the timelines is that it actually creates another timeline, but that we start seeing that timeline at First Class. First Class doesn't actually lead to the first three movies, ever, there's a past we never see (except for Origins: Wolverine) that leads to the first three films. This is reinforced by Deadpool, as Colossus and Deadpool are different from their counterparts in the original trilogy and Origins: Wolverine.

[@jackmino729]

6:12 You clearly haven’t heard of “safety glass” The glass is designed to shatter into small chunks rather than shards. This means that they are very likely to just bounce of a person.

[@tetsuokenpachi]

I thought it had a layer of plastic in between so it actually chatters but doesn't break...

[@alexreilly6121]

SAFETY DAAAAANCE THE SAF.....oh, right....

[@fart648]

Please stop taking this man seriously he’s supposed to not be serious

[@jackmino729]

I know, but it is fun to call out mistakes made by cinemasins because at that point both of us are taking the piss

[@gamedemon24]

Why does everyone have their panties in a bunch over Cinemasins' nitpicking? It's a comedy channel. It's supposed to be funny!

[@dialaskisel5929]

First time on youtube? A good chunk of people that comment don't actually have anything relevant to say, they just troll and do their utmost to generate meaningless self-defeating conversations that drag on for an amusingly long time. Cinemasins is just for fun nitpicking minor plot and editing mistakes, as well as providing snarky commentary on movie clichés. Everyone who watches more than one of their videos knows it.

[@ogone3]

Dialask Isel Thanks for reminding me to stop wasting my time scrolling further.

[@labcoatproductions1303]

can't take seriously too focused profile pic such pink floyd

[@stephenmadera5643]

These guys are fucking stupid..

[@morbidchid]

Wait, it's NOT a sin that they killed off Azazel, Banshee, Riptide and Tempest (Angel Salvadore) ALL offscreen between First Class and this movie?

[@grimthane]

-4 sins.

[@movieman410]

right because they were SO memorable

[@morbidchid]

Nelson Summerfield they were all major characters in the previous movie and the only deaths that weren't altered by time travel.

[@movieman410]

i didnt care because they werent memorable

[@morbidchid]

Nelson Summerfield That's one thing you had in common with the director. The rest of us actually liked Azazel. He has the coolest scene in any of the movies. (the attack on CIA Headquarters) And he's also kinda important because he's NIGHTCRAWLER'S FATHER. when Vaughn was still set to direct, we were going to see Mystique and Azazel become an item. But with Synger back on board, he just killed him off offscreen so he could have her want to fuck Magneto. Most of us thought it was kinda lame. Awesome that you're too cool to care ;)

[@AAA502ify]

x men apocalypse builds up so much on but then falls down to a pile of cliches, future past was s much better. you're gonna sin a fuckton on that movie lol

[@Goremize]

Oh man I know x3

[@AAA502ify]

haha you watched it too? I had so much high hopes on that one but then the ending was like, ramming down the sudden phoenix power from jean down our throats.lol no explanation haha

[@Goremize]

祁堂隼斗 I know! The defeat just happened so suddenly and then suddenly op Jean powers, lol. It's great that they are going so far away from what they did before in the old x-men episodes, where Jean only did phoenix stuff much much older. Of course, Since we saw Wolverine meet a bunch of them alive in the future, this supposed future, we already knew many mutants who would not die during this. So Jean must re-gain control of everything before the time Wolverine got back ect. xD

[@hachid9579]

+Gorem actually the timeline changed after dofp, creating a timeline where everyone was alive in the future and an alternate one where Xmen Apocalypse happened. So its not set in stone that scott, jean, beast, xavier,etc. might survive

[@AAA502ify]

Huzaifa Idrees Interesting. Well, I definitely am looking forward to some more X-men stuff though. Just that....oh, and I also had to laugh when Wolverine came on screen, he basically looked like an old man who hasn't heard of Gilette and I lost it when he ran into the woods half naked. God if someone shot a video of some hairy half naked dude running like crazy in the snowy woods, it'd definitely be on youtube under funny videos lol So many good actors but I felt their looks and skills were wasted :/ hope they do better next time :)

[@elizabethcatlion7015]

Actually, when Charles said "I'm going to say to you what you said to us then" or whatever (3:13), In First Class, Wolverine was actually supposed to say "f* off" which is what Charles says here- Hugh Jackman just improvised the "go f* yourself" instead in that one shot. (Btw the other two's reactions in that shot were genuine reactions to him not saying the right line)

[@TheWesternFountain]

Ok ok... That was not Human Torch bud, that is Sunspot. People have been asking for him to be in an X-Men movie for awhile so Bryan included him. Also whether or not the Sentinels being similar to Thor's Executioner isn't really what Bryan was trying to throw back to. The only thing he copied from the Executioner was its concussive laser beam. Other than that the Sentinel idea is completely original. Also yes Quicksilver can be listening to that song at that speed. The only time he listens to music is when he's using his powers so he could just use some computer program to make the music on his music player play faster. Much faster. Either way it is possible to do, it'd be difficult considering it's the 70s but Quicksilver has a lot more time to do things than regular people, I'm sure he'd be able to pull off anything he can think of.

[@Rabbit_Films]

Of course it's not the Human Torch. That's why he said it was a discount Human Torch. It means that they are basically the same person but with different names.

[@robertivey7644]

rabbit91210 Sunspot well he would be pretty useless at night since his whole power set uses solar energy to power himself. He's also pretty different from the Human Torch since he appears as this humanoid black mass of darkmatter when using his powers. Which are basically enhanced strength and the ability to channel heat and infrared radiation. So he's pretty much not accurate at all.

[@TheDevilDinosaur]

Destroyer. Executioner is someone else

[@Brastius]

I think you meant Sunfire.

[@iTracti0n]

Your sense of physics is way off

[@BenCulture]

A thing about Quicksilver that neither movie illustrates: He's not the Flash; he doesn't just turn his super-speed ON and OFF. For him, life is always moving absurdly slow, and it's a huge effort for him to tolerate, learn patience, and slow down enough to interact with others. At least, that's how it is in the comics. Which explains why he's such a hothead. Both movie versions of Pietro are more likeable than the comics version.

[@nathanlyon2558]

I like your videos a lot but, this one was kinda bad. Some sins are explained decently if you pay attention. like the one scrap metal piece that hit magneto. lol

[@ltaldrich8270]

Exactly, the piece that hit Magneto was from a Sentinel, which are not made of metal.

[@patmooney1407]

Trask claims his sentinels have the technology of a harrier jet, a plane that wouldn’t be commissioned until 1986.

[@SA80TAGE]

see that's an actual sin, an error in continuity and historical reference... CinemaSins focuses way too much on forced jokes that have nothing to do with the actual "sins" of a movie.

[@julian1127]

@@SA80TAGE If you come here for actual critiques I honestly pity you. That was never what this channel was about.

[@mikelau8638]

If you did a simple Google search, you would know that the Harrier Jump Jet was developed in the 1960s well before 1973

[@patmooney1407]

Mike Lau : So if it was in Cold War (classified) development, why were the military leaders from all around the world nodding their heads as though they knew what it was? A simple google search would inform you on the secret nature of the Cold War arms race.

[@mikelau8638]

@@patmooney1407 Another search would then tell you that the first generation of Harrier jets was RECEIVED by the USMC in 1971. I should hope that military leaders would know about a jet they already purchased and received two flipping years ago. They would continue to receive more first gen Harriers all the way until 1976. These are all American military leaders, last time I checked military leaders from around the world aren't welcome at American congressional hearings. So your secret nature of the arms race means jack shit.

[@LogRamBry]

Some of the points are moot for this reason: It's stated that the two timelines do exist concurrently until Kitty brings Logan back. Only then does the altered timeline become the actual timeline. Also, Logan's healing factor kept him alive.

[@peckprodking]

+Aster Dan How does she bring him back? The Kitty that is sending him back would cease to exist when he wakes up and therefore couldn't be the one that brings him back. Paradox.

[@LogRamBry]

AP Bikini Team I think because they are existing concurrently, then she can still bring him back. It's not until she does that she and that timeline cease to exist.

[@peckprodking]

+Aster Dan That's explanations to excuse terrible writing and a company's indifference to our need for continuity.

[@LogRamBry]

AP Bikini Team That's how it worked in the comics, except it wasn't Kitty who sent people back in time. Actually, in the comics Kitty was the one who sent people back in time.

[@0106johnny]

+AP Bikini Team Please read some comics before you comment on a comic movie.

[@leopardspots9868]

He's just gonna SKIP OVER the fact that PROFESSOR X DIED IN THE LAST MOVIE AND HE'S JUST MAGICALLY BACK?!?! SRSLY?!

[@harrydrake4173]

+Leopardspots It's total bullshit but in the bonus ending to X3, Xavier transfers his consciousness to his braindead twin.

[@leopardspots9868]

Harry Drake ok. that SERIOUSLY BOTHERED me till now. I can stop screaming at my friends about it now.

[@dgma626]

the ending of this movie is stupid its too perfect so all the movies are basically erased

[@leopardspots9868]

Rico G EXACTLY!!!!

[@peckprodking]

+Harry Drake Was his braindead twin also shot in the back? Because he shouldn't be paralyzed in a wheelchair otherwise.

[@michaelsnott746]

I dont think cinemasins completely understood the movie

[@LukeLovesRose]

The movie is so good, they just got desperate for sins

[@moscreefus]

Guys, the movie doesn't make sense. As usual they've picked on a few sins that have valid explanations, but none of the mechanics of this movie make any sense at all, not even "comic book sense." It's a big, flashy mess that successfully distracted you from its very many plot holes.

[@LukeLovesRose]

What about this movie is so hard for you to understand?

[@edschramm6757]

they kept calling out the guns, but im pretty sure they are plastic, not glass.

[@moscreefus]

Friend, it's not that it's hard to understand. It's that it's total nonsense. Nothing that happened in the 70s would have QUELLED mutant hatred. Magneto moving that stadium, Mystique's public assassination attempt. Oh but she didn't pull the trigger, so hooray for these terrifying gods who walk among us! There is not a shred of sensitivity to cause-and-effect relationships (which is the ultimate sin in a time travel movie). The only explanation for why The Last Stand was undone is that "something" changed in the past, not anything specific and not anything that would have a logical impact on things like, for example, the ending of X2 where Jean dies. Did THAT movie even happen? If so, why didn't Jean sacrifice herself at the end? What the hell happened in 1975 that made X2 still happen just like we saw it but without the sacrifice that led to the X3 Phoenix stuff? It. Makes. No. Sense. You're allowed to like this flashy nonsense, but there is no way to draw any logical connections between what they supposedly changed in the past and how it affected the original trilogy.

[@eXquisiteGaming110]

9:00 dude, that's the 70s version of wolverine without the conscience of wolverine from the future. Last thing he would remember would be sleeping with that chick we see at the beginning.

[@LukeLovesRose]

Conscious mind. Conscience is a very different thing

[@MarielikestoCrochet]

Then Logan comes along and ruins your belief of a happy ending

[@paradisecityX0]

That was 6 years later though. And a good fucking movie

[@chrisp5466]

Logan’s in a completely separate timeline from both the Original and Revised timelines. In Logan, he says ”There hasn't been a mutant born in 25 years.” Logan takes place in 2029 and the revised, happy ending of this movie takes place in 2023, so if what Logan’s saying is correct, when he wakes up in this movie all of the kids he sees should be no younger than 19 years old... But they're not. It also confirms on the Marvel wiki that Logan’s in it's own timeline. Sorry for rambling! Lol

[@paradisecityX0]

@@chrisp5466 If it's in its own timeline, it doesn't mean anything then. When Xavier died, I couldn't stop thinking about his younger version

[@inventerallix9924]

0:32 You should expect robots in comic book movies. Even though it can shoot laser vision like the destroyer from Thor 2011, it can also absorb the mutants powers. Also they don't look the same.

[@LukeLovesRose]

These Sentinels are far more threatening to me than any of the villains in the MCU, including pinky Thanos

[@tetsuokenpachi]

@@LukeLovesRose Ya... Because they make even less sense.

[@LukeLovesRose]

@@tetsuokenpachi Less sense than a mutant robot like Nimrod??

[@Yvaelle]

Mystique totally misunderstands men if she thinks turning blue makes her unattractive - banging hot alien-looking chicks is pretty much the sole motivator for all human technological progress - each minor accomplishment brings us just one step closer to becoming Captain Kirk. Mystique's true form is more desirable (in part due to rarity, but also because she's just hot) than any human woman :)

[@violetp642]

oh, just say it... it's cuz she's naked lol

[@Yvaelle]

Adia Aira That too - she's blue, she's hot, and she's naked - what's not love?!

[@MetFanMac]

Yvaelle I never could figure out WHY she's naked... I mean, apart from regular societal conventions (not just western, even in the most primitive tribes peope almost never go totally buck naked), what about cold? Or sharp gravel, or hot sidewalks?

[@Yvaelle]

***** The only conclusion is that she wants to be. She could be blue in a suit if she wanted to be - she seems to be able to not just shift her skin/shape, but also match anyone's outfit at any time - so there should be no reason she can't summon up a ball gown if she wants, while reverting back to her natural skin. I have to assume that a) it's more comfortable in her true form, and b) she likes freaking people out with her naked hot blueness.

[@thegmbtc]

Yvaelle I think that she is naked because: if she was wearing something, then her shapeshifter abilities would be crippled (turning in stryker with the uniform and all under a real skirt or whatever?), and she don't go around with a shifted suit because it would be a waste of energy (as stated in first class about her going always around like a normal person)... of course she could go with an easy to remove trench... but fuck it.. Btw, she's hot in her blue form, plus all the roleplay fun you can have? When Trask says: I want her, for research purposes of course. Everyone in that room thought "yeah, sure, research"

[@samuelblackraine5828]

I think quick sliver has sped up songs so they sound correct when he runs around

[@sassonfire6808]

I mean, I would too tbh

[@juderay4991]

no he controls inertia and gravity

[@cheivan_]

It could be the soundwaves in his earphones moving at the same speed as him, therefore the song would play correctly.

[@LukeLovesRose]

Yeah. He engineered his own Walkman just as he engineered his own Pong game to be fast enough for him... which means its still like Pong for us...........

[@SA80TAGE]

@@juderay4991 the fuck does that have to do with anything? You know it's relatively easy to speed up a song, even using a tape + walkman, right? We don't need super powers to do it.

[@Mimi4826]

They literally ignored half of X3. So somehow not only is Professor X still alive, but now Magnetos powers are back. But Jean and Scott are still dead. And Wolverine is surprised that Professor X is alive at the end in the present when he saw him in the future?? It's like the end of the 2nd and the entire 3rd movie never happened.

[@krim7]

X-3 never happened. Erik had his powers back at the end of X-3. People come back all the time in comic book franchises. Charles probably called in a favor from his Shi'ar lady friend to get him a phoenix down.

[@Mimi4826]

***** well, i watched it over and saw the Erik part at the end but I still am kind of confused over Charles' part.

[@LitomanUPSB]

read the comics

[@krim7]

Mia Dowd Charles is an open mystery but he's come back a lot in the comics, so it is not unreasonable for him to die.

[@Mimi4826]

***** i guess. He is kind of the whole point of Xmen

[@Slithy]

Disregard half of those for bad knowledge of the universe and not paying attention to what happens on screen.

[@tin4258]

Well it doesn't have to be "bad knowledge of the universe". He might know a lot about the x-men but he always says that he just talks about the movies. So everything the movies don't explain is a sin. Doesn't matter if the comics have a better explanation. =) If he'd include the comic explantations, he could just count the whole movie as one big sin, since the comics are always better, if you ask me x3

[@Slithy]

Stift chan Makes sense.

[@TheThoerlChannel]

Stift chan Exactly. The only sin that was actually explained was why mystiques decision only changed the future right at the end. Kitty said that the changes kick in the moment Wolverine wakes up. That opens a whole new can of "then they could have..." arguments, but I guess they got that one thing right at least.^^

[@Slithy]

TheThoerlChannel Actually there were a lot of little things like this. For instance, when Magneto gets wounded by a fragment, you can clearly see a piece of Sentinel's scales on it, meaning it's not metal. Or why would you rant about Blink's portals? The movie establishes it's characters' powers, not your wish. Maybe she's just faster at opening portals where she can see the exit, or maybe the temple has only one floor, or maybe she doesn't know what is happening on the other floors and doesn't want to accidentally send a sentinel behind her friend's back? And other couple dozen of those sins can be shattered by the same logic.

[@13Hyrule]

yeah like they actually state in the movie that characters like shadowcat sometimes evolve new powers over time

[@piercingpencils_art]

Okay, so this cinemas in she is two years old by my message. So in anticipation of Logan coming out this year, I have this question. If the Silver Samurai cut half of Logan's adamantium claws off on both hands, how did Wolverine get both sets of claws adamantium restored between The Wolverine, and X-Men Days of Future Past?

[@loudboy317]

Magneto helped him in that department. The scene in X2 where he sucks the iron out of the security guard's body gives us an idea on how he helped Wolverine.

[@jack_of_the_cards]

15:47 You've used this so much, I expect to see this whenever Striker is mentioned in your "after credit scenes"

[@nikeraikage5318]

Mystique can copy anyones physical appearance, not their abilities. So how did that give the key to the sentinels.

[@hafabee]

It wasn't that the Sentinels copied her shape-shifting powers, it's that Mystique's DNA contained the key to mutation itself and through that Trask industries managed to eventually build Sentinels (the ones in the future) that are able to analyze and adapt to any mutant power.

[@nikeraikage5318]

How did her ability contain the key to mutation when she can only copy. It would make more sense for rogue to have been the source of the discovery seeing as she can take other mutants abilities away and use them.

[@stidu]

jay wood They key to that ability was actuallywhen they capture Rogue, they were going to use that as an explanation in the movie but they cutted Rogue's part off without much explanation.

[@bakerbuff2474]

jay wood Well.....due to time they kind of cut Rogue's scenes out of the movie. But in the cut scenes Rogue was being held captive so it's not too much of a stretch to think that they used her DNA to add that ability.

[@87654Luigi]

jay wood I think it would make even more sense to take Darwin's blood for his adaptability... but they killed him off. Oops.

[@jessiec668]

I won't argue that this movie had some plot holes and some of the characters made some weird choices. However, I will argue against a few of the Sins that were counted here. Sin #7: The girl (think her name is Blink) is not TRYING to escape the facility. She and the others are simply buying time while Kitty and the other guy finish their time-travel thing in the back room. Sin #28: They already told you that the first person that Mystique ever kills is Trask, so her NOT killing Striker shouldn't be all that surprising. Sin #31: It's not that surprising that Xavier wouldn't remember the exact phrasing that Wolverine used during their one short encounter several years before. Sin #64: The music you hear in this scene is most likely just background music, not the music that Quicksilver is actually listening to in his headphones. Otherwise, the music would be playing in slow-mo just like all the other people in this scene are moving. Sin #63: It's not that weird for the guy who can manipulate metal to suggest that Wolverine would be improved by metal claws. Sin #74: Magneto was aiming for a kill shot on Mystique, not her leg. He can control the bullet when it is out of his sight, but not perfectly because he didn't know exactly where Mystique was going to fall to. Sin #77: Original-timeline-Wolverine may have forgotten Xavier, since they had only one encounter previously. And I'm pretty sure that he had never seen Beast in beast form before now (I admit my memory of the First Class movie is a bit hazy and I might be wrong, but I'm fairly sure about this). Sin #118 & 126: As they explained at the beginning of the movie, NONE of the effects of changing history will actually go into effect until present-day-Wolverine wakes up from his time travelling adventure. Until that happens, yes, the Sentinels still exist and would still be attacking the mutants. Also, none of the present-day-mutants will remember the original history timeline except Wolverine. (Although weirdly, Wolverine appears to remember ONLY the original history timeline at the end of the movie and is completely confused by the new history timeline, even though presumably he had been living through it from 1970-something to 2020-something.)

[@h0m3st4r]

Sin #25: Lapdances serve no purpose but to make you look like a sex-crazed moron, so drop the joke already. It wasn't funny before, it's not funny now, and it'll never be funny.

[@SSDJ816]

I think the lap-dance joke is pretty funny.

[@h0m3st4r]

***** I expect nothing less from sex crazed morons like them.

[@h0m3st4r]

***** I was talking about lapdances in general when I said they make people look like morons, not so much the joke itself. And I do, in fact, have a sense of humor; it just doesn't register that type of "humor".

[@h0m3st4r]

***** No. I just think lapdances make people look that way.

[@fionn335]

You should watch the x men movies in this order: First Class X-Men X2 The Wolverine Days of future past X Men Apocalypse

[@FourthStreetSaint]

What about The Last Stand and wolverine origins?

[@ethangab9776]

+FourthStreetSaint those movies shall not be named

[@BobDylanFan1966]

I think x3 needs to be watch despite how bad it is compare to x1 and x2 but I would bring clarity to The Wolverine movie. Xmen orgins can be skipped . Consider that a Alternate universe if one is curious to watch it. The only blessing Orgins brought us is a better Wolverine solo film and Deadpool done right.

[@M.Elle-]

+FourthStreetSaint The early X-Men (X1,X2,X3)films technically never happened... Changed timeline, different events.

[@M.Elle-]

Actually, X1,X2 and X3 never happen due to DOFP changed events... So there really is no order.

[@meiiyomi]

11:47 i found this part way too funny 💀

[@VFXCoach]

So did no one else wonder how they got the re-bar out of Wolverine when they hauled him out of the river? I mean come on, that stuff was buried in him pretty good, probably wrapped around bones and everything. Then when they pull him out of the river it's all magically pulled out? Um...no...lol. For some reason that really ruined the suspension of disbelief for me... :\

[@Cyfrik]

I was thinking the same thing when I watched the movie.

[@snatchadams69]

so wolverine not drowning was ok but the re-bar was unacceptable?....am I'm not reading the sarcasm or are you being serial?

[@Super.average]

Suspension of belief. Okay . This is a movie about people who genetically obtain supernatural powers and can do pretty much anything. With time travelling.

[@VFXCoach]

snatchadams69 The drowning was really dumb as well. Personally that whole scene kinda ruined things for me.

[@VFXCoach]

Steve Corona No, I get that. The movie was enjoyable. But, as a filmmaker myself, it's usually the little things that bother me more. And this particular instance really just stuck out to me.

[@oilerfan871]

I still loved this movie

[@xgray2012]

Me too.

[@oilerfan871]

James Adams I know haha some of them were legit but when it's based of a comic book story arc and since when did those ever follow any sense of logic

[@Vjakfu]

Sin 126 was wrong Shadowcat said that past and future are simultaneous that's why the future only changes when mystique drop the gun

[@nilasmp6907]

Actually no. When you are in the future you have a definite past. They does not occur simultaneously. Yea by choosing different you will belong to another time line but the other timelines will not be effected by the choice. That means in the future where Sentinals killed the mutant race will definitely happen so will the happy ending. Also a paradox will occur like every other time travelling movies. Logan needs to go back in time to reunite Eric and Charles so that they can stop Mystique from killing Trask. They succeed and Logan is back to the future again. Now there is no Sentials so Logan does not need to go back in time. As Logan does not need to go back in time, Charles and Eric never reunited. Mystique killed Trask. Sentinals were created and now Logan needs to go back in time to change the past.

[@unusualbydefault]

Didn't they say it only gets real once she "disconnects"?

[@yeetboi9817]

9:21 Erik can control his magnetism as demonstrated throughout the movies, this is why he does specific shit not just destroying everything

[@UekawaOhira]

You know, what might have been an interesting thing, was instead of flashing back to the Future happening concurrently, is for every flash to future to to show the changes made in the past affecting them?

[@CourtneyCoulson]

The guns are made of plastic, not glass. Also there is a video on the Nerdist channel that explains that Quicksilver's music running at his speed is theoretically possible. Long story short, imagine being in a spaceship flying at light speed, your music would still sound normal to you. Really the scientific inaccuracy in that scene is that he wouldn't be able to touch anyone or anything without hurting himself or others because of the sheer force with which he would collide with them.

[@pierrestribling6785]

Heat is the result of molecules moving really fast. Long story short, the heat produced by him running at top speed would kill anything he ran by. He wouldn't even have to touch them to kill them, but I guess science doesn't exist in the x men universe

[@CourtneyCoulson]

+Pierre Stribling oh shit, you're right, didn't think about that! Still it is fun to speculate about these kinds of things. My interest in science came out of my love of comics as a kid.

[@NeonSuperNovas]

That’s not possible because he’s literally moving faster than the streaming speed of his iPod. Which means that he would have done of all that within like one word of the song. If you’re in a space ship and music is playing, you’re not moving faster than the streaming speed so the music will play normally. No way a whole song can play within the time frame of a gun being fired.

[@Ironmanfan42]

Dear Cinema Sins, Please read the comics before giving a sin to mutant powers. Sincerely, Geeks

[@CazRaX]

Dear Geeks, THE BOOKS DON'T MATTER! Sincerely, CinemaSins Fans

[@Goleon]

CazRaX They actually do cause the movies are BASED OFF THE COMICS so they basically need to be as close to them as they can which means the powers have to be as close or basically are like what is seen in the comics.

[@iluvlost09]

Goleon No, cause a lot of people who see the X-men movies don't read the comics. So it's absurd to have to read all the comics to explain plot holes and shit. Movies that are based off of books are made with that in mind, the movie has to make sense within its own universe.

[@TickedOffPriest]

CazRaX They offer a insight that explains why many of these are not sins and are bound to not only Marvel logic, but real world logic. Sincerely, Marvel Fans and CinemaSins Fans

[@darnellasobie]

Thank you criticising powers and abilities in a superhero movie is like criticising events in a non-fiction historical movie. It is what it is

[@calebcombs3669]

Quicksilver's music being in "real time" during slow motion wasn't a sin, he just listens to it in fast forward.

[@alexreilly6121]

IFICOULDSAVETIMEINTHEBOTTLESOFTIMETHENIWOULDHAVEALLOFTHETIMEBLUBBLUB

[@RAMPAGE36542]

well technically you could have an electrical mechanism without metal and an elevator. Instead of using metal they would use metalloids, substances that resemble some of metal's properties such as conductivity. Therefore, it's possible to use metalloids in the place of metal.

[@OrphanHart]

I doubt the writers knew that though

[@RAMPAGE36542]

+Bunny Rabbit Well i mean most/maybe all electronics use metalloids to some degree. But most use metal as well.

[@patricio7081]

And magnetomuses ferrous magnetism wich affects iron,etc but does not affect copper a conductive material boooooom💥

[@RAMPAGE36542]

+John Llama master that's the theory.

[@Kareszkoma]

Yes! Like graphite. Tho there is the problem that they are bad conductors. The bigger sin is that a guy killed the president and people believe that he would be still just prisoned. Fucker would be shot without a hearing.

[@pedrotraguil8511]

4:11 James McAvoy talks about curving bullets and no mention to Wanted? xD SIN!!!!

[@justsomeguy1136]

There were so many references in this to both professors other acting jobs i never realized it before watching this video again. The star trek episode for the older prof x and the curving the bullet thing from wanted for younger prof x.

[@Oblivianos]

it would make more sense if they needed darwin's dna from first class than mystique's. he adapted to everything

[@luvgrrlilla]

Oblivianos agreed

[@EllieYuki]

Especially when you consider that Mistique can only take the form and not the powers. If she transforms into wolverine she doesn't actually have his claws it just looks that way. It would NEED the DNA of someone like Darwin or Rogue (which I believe was in the comics) for these things to work the way they do.

[@supermysticsonic2]

EllieYuki She took Wolverine's powers in the first X-Men movie.

[@Oblivianos]

supermysticsonic2 no she didn't she only got his appearance. she kinda healed cuz of her own powers

[@whateverreally1347]

Or rogue because she can absorb abilities

[@rogaineablar5608]

Dude, more than a 5-sin appreciation of that scene. To me, that is the most cinitografal (is that a word) best sequence in any of the X movies.

[@marcino457]

Bobby looks an awful lot like Chris Pratt in this movie

[@erikw.s.5209]

Add 50 sins because Charles and Erik are still not married in any time line.

[@themonopolyguy4365]

Oh boy here we go.....

[@erikw.s.5209]

dpchiko17 Oh, yeah, it absolutely ruins a movie when some people are shipping some of the characters. First of all, not all people who ship things even have tumblr. Also, if you don't like it, you can easily ignore it. And, in the case you didn't know, even James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender ship it.

[@dpchiko17]

Billie of Oakdown So you don't deny being a tumblr fanatic? Explains everything

[@erikw.s.5209]

dpchiko17 I don't deny using tumblr and I don't deny being a shipper. Because both of those things aren't bad.

[@dpchiko17]

Billie of Oakdown No, they are

[@bindair_dundat]

Mistique's transformation seems to include clothes, belts, buttons and watches as well. So if she transformed into a man who has two guns on his belt, would she also have two guns on her belt? Could she use them? Or if she can't copy "complicated" things like the T1000, could she transform into a Samurai and have a functional sword?

[@WigantX]

In first X-Men movie, Mystique imitated the form of wolverine, with suit, claws and everything. As long as she had claws, she was able to cut some stuffs while fighting with real Wolverine. If I stop here I would probably say "yes, she actually had adamantium or, at least, functional claws". But Logan sliced her claws like they were butter on the next scene, and she screamed of pain. So, I don't really know what to say (write, to be fair)

[@RogueNook]

WigantX I think the claws were just claws of whatever she's made of (presumably flesh and blood). That's why she screamed in pain when they got cut. So it makes me think that she can "make" anything to complete the illusion but nothing is actually real, it's part of her made to look like whatever it is (gun, suit, claws, sword, etc.)

[@WigantX]

But that doesn't explain how she was able to cut things with those fake claws...unless they were made of actual bone tissue (sharp and strong bone tissue). In fact, my first argument was "they resemble claws, but illusion still". It was after checking the scene I got confused.

[@RogueNook]

Bone claws make sense as that's something that would normally be in her body. My point was more, she couldn't have adamantium claws, a steel sword, a working gun.

[@WigantX]

She did it on TV show as well

[@baustellenschild7916]

I think the fact, that history changed as Raven decided not to kill Trask, is because Rogue stopped sending Wolverine back, because she was being killed in this moment. And they said, as soon as they stop sending him back, everything that happens becomes history