Evidences of the Book of Mormon: Nahom

[@NomadJournalistNews]

Your supporting evidence for "Bountiful" is - a cardinal direction - Ocean - Trees - Fruit - Mountains and Cliffs - Fresh Water - Flint and Ore These are all super common items. After all, ancient cities needed fresh water sources, needed building resources, and were often built by the ocean(which you seperated into two points). This isn't some detailed roadmap of the ancient Arabian peninsula(which, by contrast, the old and new testament often provide). It's a family name that may correspond with the name Nahom, and some generalizations that would be quite easy to draw about ancient cities(especially since commonly-known Bible stories clearly highlight all of these geographical features)

[@rconger24]

No not super common on the Saudi pennensula unless you happen to have either satellite imagery or be given the correct vector.

[@thebard2806]

I was thinking that same thing. If you head East from literally ANYWHERE you will eventually get to a coast, and therefore a coastal region which because of that water will have all these things.

[@tylerprice4415]

BRO QUIT WATCHING PORN AND MASTURBATING. DO YOU THINK GOD IS GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO FEEL THE SPIRIT WHEN YOU ARE CORRUPTING YOURSELF? GET IN GEAR AND BECOME WHO YOU WANT TO BE BROTHER.

[@NomadJournalistNews]

@@tylerprice4415 WTF are you talking about?

[@TheYammerHammer]

@@tylerprice4415 lack of any linguistic, archeological, or DNA evidence tying any tribe of Native Americans to ancient Israelites

[@thejorgerojas]

Comments did not pass the vibe check. Open your eyes folks, this is just one of many remarkable findings.

[@whabaskeythethird]

At least someone said it hahaha 😂😂

[@BrotherEvansLDS]

A lot of old, rehashed, refutable arguments at best.

[@metalgamingwarrior2714]

I happen to be a Book of Mormon scholar and have written 2 commentaries, one of them, verse by verse. I testify this video speaks the truth.

[@shaneownbey]

Please let me know where I can find these commentaries, I am curios. (Nice photo)

[@Wilvekio69]

And the undisputed non-lds proof by archeological means

[@barbwire7449]

Not one of Smith's translations has ever been confirmed outside the LDS church. The Book of Mormon has no archeology, anthropology, or biblical manuscripts to confirm it. The golden plates (manuscript), the most critical evidence to prove the BOM, was conviently whisked away by an angel. The JST bible translation written by Smith, a supposedly corrected version of the KJV, has been proven wrong by the Dead Sea Scrolls (dated 350 B.C -100 A.D.). Smith added his own name in Genesis 50 of the JST, which has also been disputed by the DSS. No single Greek/Hebrew document, inscription, or manuscripts (multiple hundreds) discovered since the JST was written has confirmed one word or verse of the JST. No Smith translation, outside the LDS church, has ever been used by reputable Greek/Hebrew scholars or commission of scholars, to write a new Bible translation such as the KJV, NIV, LIVING BIBLE, etc. Every Smith translation is one man's word from one man's vision, with a handful of witnesses from two families, one family that of Smith's. Never in the Christian Bible does God instruct one of his prophets to revise, change, alter, add to, or take away from the scriptures, only to copy. (Deuteronomy 17:18, Deuteronomy 4:2, Proverbs 30:6, Revelation 22:18). Of course, there is no amount of overwhelming indesputable evidence against Smith, whether it be DNA, or lack of archeology or anthropology, that would ever be conclusive enough to convince Mormons that he was a fraud. Meanwhile, just keep tithing.

[@3thingsfishing427]

I testify there is a big, friendly, purple dinosaur in your kitchen. Does that make it true?

[@getharryonsax]

​@@3thingsfishing427 i bet you haven't even read the book of mormon. The only way to know of its truth is to follow the Promise in Moroni, which is to read the book with real intent, wavering not, and ask of God if the Book is true. I can testify that you get a feeling like you have never felt before, and you will KNOW it is true.

[@examiningreligiousclaims9883]

Mormon Apologist: "Joseph couldn't have possibly known about Nahom or Chiasmus" Muslim Apologist: "Muhammad couldn't have possibly known how to describe a human embryo with such amazing detail 1400 years ago" Seventh-day Adventist Apologist: "With a 3rd grade education, Ellen White simply couldn't have written her 200,000 pages of revelations without divine inspiration" Urantia Book Apologist: "If you examine the literary quality of this, it's impossible for somebody to channel something with perfect grammar and perfect use of vocabulary that's consistent for 2,000 pages."

[@tebwebwetionatan9701]

I hope this does not consist of the over 2000 changes made to the bom since it was first penned.

[@DeborahMark-o1j]

I believe in the book of Mormon...you showed the evidence...it put some of my doubts at rest...I don't understand why people have to be so mean...I love reading the history of the book of Mormon it is truth and you showed me evidence it is real...thank you for showing what is real...

[@budsforyou5908]

Go get saved. I mean saved by the grace of God.

[@johnrowley310]

Go read the Bible.

[@outlawedmedia4336]

It's not real, you're just highly gullible. You're being fooled. The mormon church is a scam that wants your money. No different than a computer virus that infects your life and leaches off you. You're not thinking free, the church has taken over all that.

[@jackgreyson6497]

who is here just for the comments

[@nolanburton7985]

Nicely done. Entertaining video presentation that doesn't take the entire hour to get to the point. Thank you for being concise and clean in your excellent explanations.

[@blakejensen2620]

This is amazing, thanks for the video!

[@jmalko9152]

Psalms 63:1 God, you are my God. I will earnestly seek you. My soul thirsts for you. My flesh longs for you, in a dry and weary land, where there is no water.

[@american236]

There is archaeology evidence in my heart of the book of Mormon.

[@TheMormonInformant]

Hey, just wondering how long you'll let critical comments remain in the comment section? I'm glad that you've kept them this long, but you know they completely discredit this hypothesis, right?

[@doubleadoublel99]

Your video is garage... you ripped it from Jeremy who didn't do a great job at all. You bias is your own... I'm sure you cling to it because without it you would have to deal with your fear of God.

[@johnlewis6526]

Examples?

[@anonymousdogmama9720]

if that's all they got, it's not enough. too many experts have already said it is impossible that the ppl and places smith wrote about being in the americas couldn't have existed let alone have huge battles using chariots and horses, without leaving a single artifact.

[@elderinisrael]

This isn't all. There is tons of internal evidence and external evidence that The Book of Mormon is True.

[@whabaskeythethird]

No amount of evidence would be enough for someone like you. If you aren't willing to change your lifestyle and the way you live your life, you will refute every piece of evidence handed to you that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is true along with the Book of Mormon

[@brennantsullivan]

Bro u obviously haven't even read it

[@AlbertJLouie]

The Smithsonian Institution has added its voice against the archeological claims of the Book of Mormon, and I quote: "The Smithsonian Institution has never used the Book of Mormon in any way as a scientific guide. Smithsonian archeologist see no direct connection between the archeology of the New World and the subject matter of the book.." To this day the Mormon church hasn't provided any shred of archeological evidence for the Book of Mormon.

[@whabaskeythethird]

**ignores the entire video** haha classic antis 😂😂😂

[@whabaskeythethird]

@@sdfotodude have you prayed about it? Have you read it? Have you even tried? Because I have, and I've seen its effects. The Bible says that ye shall know them by their fruits, and the fruits of The Book of Mormon are good, and all things good come from God.

[@AlbertJLouie]

@@sdfotodude You're gonna need a better answer than that. Show me the evidence.

[@AlbertJLouie]

@@whabaskeythethird Yes I prayed and read the Book of Mormon. And God told me that the Book of Mormon is false doctrine and that Joseph Smith is a false prophet. Also God said that He did not send any angel Moroni from heaven to Joseph Smith. GALATIANS 1:6-9 "I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who CALLED you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed..."

[@whabaskeythethird]

@@AlbertJLouie I think those were your own thoughts. Because the feeling of the promise is peace and calmliness, which are feelings from God. It is more than just praying about it. It is living it. You also seem to forget that God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, appeared to Joseph Smith first, not Angel Moroni. That means your argument of Galatians 1:8 crumbles apart because it was God Himself who restored The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, not some random angel.

[@louccideavon7116]

I love how the rebuttal of critics is not to further deny Book of Mormon evidence when it's so obviously true, but the response is to bring up something problematic with the book. Like, yea good question, but that's not a reply to the evidence, that literally does not nothing to nullify the evidence. Changing the subject is not a reply, stick to the topic. Just cause we don't know what dark matter is doesn't mean we don't know that water is made of h2o. Poor logic critics. Sigh....when will they learn.

[@julianthatsfunny1097]

So what you're saying is that they is still zero archeological evidence.

[@halodisciple8459]

Actually, there is archeological and scientific evidence. We just can't see it yet. Scientists don't have all of the information. Someday it will be revealed, and we'll get to see the physical evidence. But that will only confirm what I already know to be true. It's through the rock of revelation that we should build our testimonies on. Not the limited understanding of humankind. As Christ himself said to Thomas, "Because you have seen me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen, and have believed."

[@christophercorrea951]

😂

[@yury2749]

Just started watching, but I shall say you mock but you will mourn. Best evidence I can think of is the Spanish conquest of South America. How the deuce can that happen?

[@SAM-td4yv]

Apparently you didn't watch or if you did understand the video

[@bobocomments]

What would archeological evidence look like if this doesn't work for you?

[@beliskner3791]

Mormons: we have nothing, only NHM ... Ok the book its true, who Is hungry?

[@chaddvanzanten]

Was there a comment thread on this video involving a user named Andrew? I can't seem to find it. was it deleted?

[@greymurdock2]

I love this! So cool we get to have these little nuggets of evidence

[@RyanWRoehlAKZoomberBoomer]

My Thoughts on (BOM) Book of Mormon ( not to Be Rude or anything my Honest opinion ) ( Also I'm Non-Denomination Christian who is Interested in different Religions or Sub-Religion ) We as A Whole Don't really Know that anything in (BOM) is true but some things in the Old World Areas Are but in the New World Still looking for its existence of any Mormonized History and I think instead of Central America Those in Latter-day Saints should look in Southern tip of South America or Alaska's Islands or Caribbean Islands for any evidence Or Look around the Great Lakes area that is where Joseph Smith found the Plates so maybe they're There ?

[@VAATAUSILI4139]

Thank our ETERNAL PARENT'S, for THEIR Word, The Book Of Mormon. Bro. please keep up the good works. Mankind needs the GOSPEL.

[@nerdatron817]

Wasn't the BoM written by Joseph Smith? Or at least Moroni or Ether or IDK?

[@VAATAUSILI4139]

@@nerdatron817 All the Holy Writing's: Bible, Book Of Mormon, D&C, & Pearl Of Great Price, are the word's of GOD the Eternal FATHER, and HIS WIFE, GODDESS, our beloved HOLY Eternal MOTHER, written by the Prophet's: ADAM-MALACHI-JOSEPH SMITH-RUSSELL.

[@VAATAUSILI4139]

Brother, i forever thank our Eternal PARENT'S, for your Video's; It's a Greatest blessing for Member's & Non-Member's.

[@HayleyVW]

Mormonism has hurt so many people. LDS teachings state that one can become a god of their own planet if they are perfect and do 100% good works on Earth (for LDS leaders, Matthew 5:48 is central to this idea). This not only distorts the grace Christ has given to mankind, but also puts adherents of Mormonism in a never-ending endeavor towards the perfection only God has. What this ultimately boils down to is that instead of spending all their time being thankful to Jesus for paying the price for our sins, Mormons instead spend it preoccupying themselves over whether they've been "good enough" or done enough "good works" to get into heaven. Pray for Mormons. They are very lost and need Jesus.

[@tylerprice4415]

Ok your right, I will just slump around all my life not trying harder and becoming more of a slave to human desires, fleeting satisfaction, and unmotivated without goals. I think this sounds like a better option for everyone.

[@Pugkin5405]

@@tylerprice4415 After death isn't the only type of goal Also the fact that "perfection" is impossible, since no matter what everyone is going to interpret it in a slightly different way

[@TheYammerHammer]

@@tylerprice4415 lack of any linguistic, archeological, or DNA evidence tying any tribe of Native Americans to ancient Israelites

[@carsonmurphy2687]

We need Jesus? Everyone needs Jesus that is how we receive salvation and become closer to God. We are called the church of Jesus Christ and not mormons.

[@yevz6360]

@@TheYammerHammer You’re so, so wrong.

[@TheYammerHammer]

lack of any linguistic, archeological, or DNA evidence tying any tribe of Native Americans to ancient Israelites

[@yevz6360]

Only 2% of mesoamerica has been uncovered 👍

[@TheYammerHammer]

@@yevz6360 DNA don't lie dude

[@yevz6360]

@@TheYammerHammer I agree. The point is, that DNA was found in just 2% of the area in question. Therefore, it is not plausible to dismiss the potential of there being DNA links of native american and middle eastern peoples👍

[@TheYammerHammer]

@@yevz6360 surely if there was elephants horses and steel swords. There has to be some kind of evidence left behind. The Mormons have been looking for artifacts for over 200 years. The Only thing they have came up with is a seer stone.

[@yevz6360]

@@TheYammerHammer Again, only 2% of Meso-America has been uncovered. You wouldn’t make a judgement on the entite nature, history and peoples of England with only 2% uncovering, would you?

[@falnica]

Name one place in the American continent named in the Book of Mormon

[@whabaskeythethird]

Palmyra New York. The final resting place of the plates before being unearthed.

[@Rypaul5217]

More interesting for me is that there is a book in the Bible called Nahum, I suppose that Joseph also needed that name as well as 90 other Bible names to incorporate into his novel.

[@yevz6360]

Novel😂 Makes me laugh. Even critics of the church are passed calling it a novel paul mate

[@jimmynolet3752]

Joseph Smith read his name in the Bible and thought it was him. That's the crazy part

[@MrBilgey]

@@yevz6360 What's wrong in declaring Smith's Book of Mormon a novel?

[@whabaskeythethird]

You could draw that line of connection if you wanted. But you still don't know how The Book of Mormon came to be. You have a theory with "no evidence" other than what you claim, and no one else is in agreement with you. If the Book was false, there would be 1 prominent theory of how the Book was created. The problem is, all you anti mormons are divided on its origins and make up whatever narrative you like best. I would read the book if I were you and ask the source of all truth to know whether it came from God or not instead of trying to tear down the one hope for all of mankind.

[@willroberts3743]

Awesome! So when can we expect to see this evidence of the BoM in a peer-reviewed journal with non-Mormon scholars signing their names to it?

[@Leowinegar]

@Will, as soon as you can find us a few non-LDS scholars who wish to specialize in Book of Mormon studies :)

[@rhayvenj]

Never! lmbo

[@prankgirl9112]

Will Roberts Scholars would never put their name on something that would verify any religion. Their scholarly career would be over in a heartbeat and that is the truth.

[@nelsonchung8570]

See Terryl Givens's "By the Hand of Mormon" from Oxford University Press. p. 120.

[@nelsonchung8570]

It was published back in 2003, you're a little late.

[@Canut0]

The Book was true before the video and it's still true ♥️ ... Great video!

[@johnrowley310]

Keep the faith don't worry about facts and never forget to send in your tithing...

[@ldstandingunited246]

I read about this N H M theory a few years back...and as in your video the pieces fit nicely together! Well done. We have to remember that scores of biblical archeologists have had multiple centuries to "dig up" evidences of the Bible in the middle east whereas Book of Mormon archeologists (which there are few) have had less than a century. I have no doubt in my mind that many more evidences like this will come forth. Keep up the great work BoMC!

[@excalibur-th9max283]

wow

[@excalibur-th9max283]

have you had a chance to read all the gospel topic essays on lds.org? serious faith builders. I think its Gods work to live in such a time with knowledge available. Joseph Smith married other men's wives and young teenage girls to help them both temporally and spiritually as it says in the gospel topics. it was also enlightening and faith promoting to read about the translation of the BOM. that book brought me closer to God than any other book ever written. It's such a simple and humble testimony to know that Joseph used a magic seer stone in a hat to see the words printed on the stone to know what to say. God works in miracles. his stone is in possession of the church and when I saw pictures of it in the Ensign my heart swelled. love this church, love this work, Adam is our God.

[@ldstandingunited246]

LOL...spoken like a true ignorant anti-Mormon....well done.

[@codyb.1194]

Apologetics at its best… or should I say worst? For those of you who watch this, I implore you to please look into these claims. If you do five minutes of research on your own you will realize they are essentially taking a coincidence (and not a good one at that)and molding it around the narrative of the book of Mormon. Back when I was a believing member, I would just take these videos at their word and leave it there. It wasn’t until I did a little bit of digging to reinforce my already strong belief that I found out the truth. This video is intentionally deceptive and the creators are banking on the fact that you will just believe what they say and not go looking. The funny thing is, everything you need to know to deconstruct the myth of the Mormon church can be found right within the pages of their own website. You never even have to leave “brethren approved literature.” Videos like these are so damaging because once you find the truth on your own you realize these church funded media companies are designed to propel the lie and keep you paying tithing. Fair warning, if you do start to dig, it will shatter your world and break your heart.

[@lootingiv4058]

lets see about that when Christ comes again. But believe what you want

[@gabrielleferra3748]

Hi, Cody! I know this comment is kind of old but I’d love to know some of the resources you used when researching on the BOM and it’s contradictions/similarities to the Bible. I am doing my own research and I’m finding it quite stressful. Thank you!

[@codyb.1194]

@@gabrielleferra3748 I have a link to a video that digs into the contradictions and more importantly it shows the books Joseph smith used to plagiarize. Let me find it. Will you reply to this message so that I can easily find this comment when I find the link?

[@gabrielleferra3748]

Yes! Thank you!

[@brennantsullivan]

​@@gabrielleferra3748he never sent the link did he lol?

[@vippy61]

Love this! Thanks for sharing!!

[@playerpage]

I watch this every Sunday! Amazing Video!

[@Bookofmormoncentralofficial]

Thank you!

[@klarity1111]

NonMormon Archaeologists do NOT agree!

[@tomahawk1542]

Yes they do lol

[@dougperschka5201]

They obviously don’t understand

[@alexanderpeterson373]

@Klarity*11 will you site your sources? Please name some living non Mormon archaeologists who do NOT agree followed but a rationale of why they would be more credible than any other archaeologists that DO agree!

[@ianharris3502]

@@alexanderpeterson373 that's not how it works. Your side is making the positive claim, so the burden of proof is on you

[@hopeinchrist9412]

Are you kidding me! Even some anti Mormons agree that the details were right. In fact even the great Sandra Tanner from lighthouse Ministries tried to explain it away by saying that Joseph looked at a map in order to refute the evidence. Why would she even want to make that argument if the details weren't right?

[@Ether-pb5gb]

It takes a special kind of confidence to wear a v-neck. That is neither a compliment, nor a put-down. Just stating the facts

[@HoratioIsHere]

Even BYU has given up on archaeological explanation. Jeez

[@samdaniels8036]

Ridiculous how wrong absurd Lds cult is

[@lootingiv4058]

@@samdaniels8036 you do some research. all of these churches that were around at the time before Joseph Smith restored the correct church had NEVER claimed to have seen God or Jesus Christ. You would think yeah so its a bunch of crap that he came up with. HOWEVER if that was the case and nobody had seen them then he would only need to come up with that and call it good because nobody had done it and there would be nothing to prove. He said that peter james and john came down to give him the priesthood power. why would he come up with 3 other people when all he would need is God to do all of that. And even if he made mistakes NOBODY is perfect EXCEPT Jesus Christ who atoned for our sins. so if he made a mistake he could repent and be forgiven because of Jesus' atonement. he was only 14 or 15 when this happened and his writing level was of someone in elementary as of todays education but he somehow "came up with" this huge book that has words he wouldnt even know how to spell. plus there is recent research that proves the book of Mormon was written by multiple different authors which would prove that he did not make it up and he only translated it from all of the writings of ancient prophets. so how about you do your research before you make a comment when you clearly havent. (no disrespect meant) it just amazes me how people can bash on something. we dont bash you for not believing in it. yes we send missionaries out and try to teach of it but if they say no we leave them alone. we just try to bring people to the truth which they get the choice

[@greggsutton3363]

Exactly 💯

[@Glen.Danielsen]

Horacio, brother of bitter blather, toxic frolic, delightful defecation: thank you for uninformed storm, turbulent stunt, blunt blurb, cheap bleep! But you know, I am glad that there is no slam-dunk gunk that will prove the groove of the Book of Mormon. Because if there was, we Latter-day Saints might end up with a church full of shallow, insincere people who are there only because of museum evidence. Think about that, friend of rend, of wrong song, of tongue with dung. God bless you; have peace.

[@Glen.Danielsen]

@@gordianknot9595 Hi Gordian. A reason we are on earth is to learn to live by faith. So it makes sense that, “Without faith it is impossible to please God,” _(Hebrews 11:6)._ I love Hebrews 11! In its first verse we get a definition of faith: “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good testimony,” _(Heb. 11:1, NKJV)._ So faith is spiritual evidence in things “not seen.” Spiritual evidence is a witness, or testimony, gained from God’s spirit. The video here mentions a bit of physical evidence, but we Latter-day Saints don’t use museum evidence as a foundation for our faith. As mentioned, that foundation is a testimony we obtain from God’s Spirit, (the Holy Ghost). Have a delightful weekend.

[@calql8er]

When I was investigating the Church (subsequently joining it) I was quite taken by the archeological evidence. I've come to question all of it and answers, from some excellent scholars like Vic Ludlow, have come up short. I don't want to rag on the Church. I was very, very active for twenty years and most of it was quite good. But the questions and contradictions became too much. However, I will tell one story (and tell me this doesn't sound familiar). Truman Madsen was talking about how the Lord would reveal evidence for the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon. Would we like to know what evidence there is? Sure! "Just ask Brother Nibley." (spoken in that oh so soothing tone we are all too familiar with). I thought. Yeah. I would love to ask Brother Nibley...if I could. What are his office hours?

[@Kaputnik11]

We understand that maps with nehem existed during the time of Joseph Smith. And instead of using those maps that existed as the explanation for Nahom we move into the land of speculation and make believe and say golden plates named it instead. A very poor argument.

[@Bookofmormoncentralofficial]

There is nothing make believe about the golden plates. Here's a great video about the witnesses to the plates: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g56QcouAg72ceJo

[@Kaputnik11]

@@Bookofmormoncentralofficial Golden plates with no empirical evidence, no way to see them observe them or prove them in anyway is directly synonymous with something that doesn't exist at all. If 13 people claimed to see Muhammad ride to heaven on a horse would you become a Muslim? No. If 13 people claimed to see bigfoot would you believe them? The testimony of 13 people that I don't know is not nearly compelling enough to make me believe in a Book with no other evidence.

[@MemyzelphandI]

The Nahom argument is one of the ways that I determine if I'm talking to an honest person or not. NHM is for the Nihm tribe that lived in the area. Nahom has never been found on a map, but Nehem has. The area is on the opposite side of an impassable mountain range (the Nehem Range), and the book of mormon text states that they stayed within the border of the Red Sea. Nahum is found in the bible and means mourning. There's a real possibility that Joseph dictated the word Nahom to play off the word for a place of mourning.

[@DiffQ_Bro]

Great video! The evidence for Lehi's trail is strong. A lot of idiots who don't know what they're talking about commenting on this thread.

[@shaneownbey]

Argument 1: Joseph Smith, Alleged to Be an Ignorant Man, Wrote the Book of Mormon In 1831 a clergyman named Alexander Campbell proposed that Joseph Smith wrote rather than translated the Book of Mormon: There never was a book more evidently written by one set of fingers, nor more certainly conceived in one cranium . . . , than this . . . book. . . . I cannot doubt for a single moment that [Joseph Smith] is the sole author and proprietor of it. Campbell also declared that “[Joseph was] as ignorant and as impudent a knave as ever wrote a book.” But this assertion that Joseph Smith, who was “ignorant” and lacked education, could write such a work as the Book of Mormon seemed so preposterous to other contemporary critics that they readily dismissed it. Even Campbell himself, who proposed this theory, later abandoned it in favor of another alternative. So, the early theories about the origin of the Book of Mormon started to focus on the premise that Joseph Smith, an unlearned man, was simply incapable of writing such a complex book. After all, he was but twenty-three years of age, a simple plowboy from western New York, and he had little formal education. Consequently the early critics concluded there must be some other explanation for the origin of the Book of Mormon than the unlikely possibility that Joseph wrote it.

[@joelgoldsmith4747]

There is a 'Time and Season' for everything. In my opinion, I think it's about time that this subject was debated throughout the entire world of religion. Truth would always remain 'VICTORIOUS' over 'FALSEHOOD'!!!

[@3thingsfishing427]

Joseph Smith did not write the Book of Mormon, he dictated it. Oliver Cowdrey wrote the Book of Mormon. You don’t need a formal education to tell stories. The LDS organization knows this. Please quit spreading this very tired lie. So dishonest!

[@StompMom5]

Shane Ownbey I would also add that no educated man could write the book. The dialogues are too different from book to book. The language would be too complicated for one or many men to just make up giving such specific facts about time and places. There's simply too many details that no man could make up the way it's written. It's the reason no one has yet been able to settle on any one idea that the book is fake. It's interesting that people think the Jews were the only people to exist and believe in God and they killed him🤷

[@Luke-vg7ut]

@@StompMom5 The vast majority of scholars believe just that... one of the biggest criticisms is that it was clearly written by one person due to word print studies and literary style. The "specific facts about time and places" are wrong, its full of anachronisms. For example, the Book of Mormon mentions horses, elephants, steel, and wheat, among other things, in ancient America, but there is no archaeological evidence that such things existed in the Americas during the time period the Book of Mormon covers. Critics argue that these anachronisms reflect the 19th-century worldview of Joseph Smith.

[@AntonydenDulk]

@@Luke-vg7ut Only ignorant critics argue those anachronisms since there is now archaeological evidence for the elephant, horses and a form of steel at a bare minimum. You need to update your arguments to take into account the latest findings.

[@aliunde]

Nahom should also probably be pronounced in the English with the "schwa" for the second vowel, instead of a long o, which would have made the connection clearer for the hearer.

[@KAREN-wj4bk]

Do you seriously think Joseph Smith thought of that

[@cultfiction3865]

There doesn’t seem to be many factors coming together here. I’d tend to disagree and say that this “evidence” is nothing more than coincidence. Besides Joseph Smith may have simply read a book that have the name of a few ancient places in Arabia. Proof needs to be more Solid than this to even be considered as been substantial

[@prayingpatriot8018]

Indeed he was inspired by a lot of authors of his day. Mainly from "View of the Hebrews" and a number of other authors/books summarizing the idea pertaining the origins of Native Americans. There is sufficient evidence identifying plagiarisms in his fictitious work. Including the towns/counties he named for BofM cities are synonymous to those in the NY/PA area.

[@everyman1983]

Yeah, I think Mormons are really good at hiding how much Joseph Smith actually knew when he "translated" the book of Mormon. Read the King Follett Discourse. If Joseph was uneducated with Hebrew terminology, how could he have said these things? Like seriously guys, all the reports don't add up. Half the time he could barely read a letter, and half the time he was a theological geniua

[@BehavingBradly]

@@everyman1983 Joseph was fairly uneducated when he translated the BoM, this is well established by looking at his own writing from the time as well as writings from both friends and critics of his time. He later took to studying Hebrew along with a great number of other things (politics, theology, trades, etc). The BoM was published in 1830, the King Follett Discourse was given in 1844.

[@tebwebwetionatan9701]

It was reported that the bom is full.of copyright infringements.....Lots of sources said so.

[@richardsoucy8546]

I’m downvoting this due to the large amount of inaccuracies. They keep deleting points of contention amongst viewers. There is zero evidence of anything that has to do with this book. No scientific evidence nor archeological evidence has been proven. People in the church try to stretch their imaginations and now their leadership is saying that it’s not based on historicity rather spiritual which can be vague and it gets people emotionally attached to the book.

[@russelllewis5852]

You are such a typical and sad example of the fear of truth. These videos are extremely well done , informative and accurate. Only someone with no desire for truth would dismiss them with such a weak and uneducated rebuttal

[@KAREN-wj4bk]

Why do you fear and deny truth. You can't be afraid of new things.

[@strattino]

I watched the video and yes, some things were a stretch, but it's still some proof of the Book of Mormon. Maybe you should fact check him. I think your probably going to find he's more right then you think

[@utahbac9882]

Yeah it's so true the church definitely won't put it on their website haha.

[@strattino]

@@utahbac9882 Have you ever looked at their website or read byu articles on it? Bet you haven't!

[@BillyBobjunior99]

For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. Stuart Chase

[@BillyBobjunior99]

@Stealth Mode When debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of loser. Socrates.

[@ZachBrimhall]

Easy out. I think everyone should challenge themselves instead of just saying you don't need proof. That might work for you personally but it's not a bad thing for someone else. I don't like it when Mormon's do that. I am a Mormon btw.

[@BillyBobjunior99]

Z man agreed, proof vs faith. Sometimes you have to take things on faith till proof comes, Then when a sure knowledge comes. People will deny things because it does not fit their paradigm. Science is fluid, fox example what we knew about the Egyptian culture 50 years ago, is different now based on new discoveries of today and is subject to some interpretation.

[@jackgreyson6497]

dale you savage

[@ZachBrimhall]

@@BillyBobjunior99 Hold on a sec. I am not going to argue someones belief in something. People know for a fact that certain historical things happened in the Bible. No dispute on actual events, people. Archeology and written records prove it. People still have a difficult time believing in the religious doctrine but no dispute in the history. BofM cannot make this claim because there is no historical evidence that it happened. Not saying it didn't but there is no scientific proof of the actual people and places in the BofM. Makes it extremely difficult and less credible when there is no evidence of actual people or places existing in the first place.

[@shawnbradford2243]

Could NHM also been Nehum, Naham, Nohum, Noham.... ect? What makes it Nahom over any of the others? Any supporting evidence?

[@shawnbradford2243]

宇宙不思議な agreed it is pure fiction, and claims that NHM is Nahom and not Nihm of the actual tribe that is in that area is ridiculous. Mormons burry their heads in the sand and ignore everything they don’t like.

[@KAREN-wj4bk]

? You can't deny what is found and harden your hearts

[@Bennystafford777]

I'm with Shawn. Too much shifting sand to build my house of faith on. Any other archaeological evidences out there? This isn't enough for me. The bible however has so many its hard to ignore. Ark was found. Path of Exodus found. Multiple cities. Multiple people mentioned on stones. Prophecy is starting to line up incredibly well for end times. It takes more faith to be mormon or atheist than it does to go with the bible.

[@thumbsdownbandit]

Archaeological evidence for the Book of Mormon: None.

[@thumbsdownbandit]

@@legacy756 I did see it. It's a bunch of non sequiturs.

[@thumbsdownbandit]

@@legacy756 Because it's a bunch of non sequiturs. A non sequitur is a conclusion that does not follow from the premises. From there is a place called Nehem in Yemen does not follow that this is the Nahom of the BoM. Because the Hebrew word for mourning is "Nicham" does not follow that Nehem is the Nahom of the BoM. From the "NHM" inscription in Marib does not follow that Nehem is Nahom.

[@tthx165]

@Kenzie K ​ We are actually on the same time for once? Kenzie, Kenzie, Kenzie. I know you have an affinity for this group, but really, you expect rational thought out of someone like him? Come on, you know full well what kind of blind fanatics these people are. I still love how you shut the last guy up showing the LDS church praised Hitler. You know what I like about Jehovah's witnesses they will at least tell you to your face what they believe, LDS just lie away as they are trained to. There are reasons the term "lying for the lord" it attached to Mormons. He is stealing his answer directly from Fair Mormon, included in that answer it he false claim that that the Book Of Moron doesn't say polygamy was evil. That is exactly what it says as you pointed out. This is often the case, many Mormons cant actually back their position they just blindly repeat what Fair Mormon tells them to say. The problem is Fair Mormon is, as you pointed out, completely dishonest as born out by so many of its staff who have come to the realization the fact they are being told to lie about things they know aren't true which sparks interest which leads to investigation which causes exit.

[@tthx165]

@@legacy756 The fact you can only name call and blindly repeat what is spoon fed to you shows you really have nothing to your case at all.

[@tthx165]

@Kenzie K How did things go with the Mormon man boy, mister "Silver Star" recipient for his world in the 1972 Panama Invasion? The stories Mormons cook up never get old. I know most of them are very creative like Henochparks walking on water or Richard Holmes and his stories how Utah Light and Power is out to kill him or his magic underwear Stories.

[@CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq]

You’re assuming Joseph Smith, who lived in the 19th century, hadn’t seen a map from the 18th century? Seems more likely that he did, and he then wrote those places into his fictional narrative.

[@EricSmyth4Christ]

I have already had revelations that Joseph is of the devil or of God. It was not a "Fictional story".

[@waynemc2300]

You read my mind! It's easy to get the names right when you read it off a map. 🤣 but some of those early maps the names are written small and hard to see. It would be easy to misread a O for a E on one of the early 1800s maps. 🙃

[@BaBumz]

At the age of 14? Not likely

[@wesleycarpenter1873]

It is highly improbable, nigh on impossible for a poor ,barely educated, farm boy to have access to maps such as those

[@krissander1]

@@wesleycarpenter1873 not really most bibles had maps

[@lovelyjeannillas8751]

Thank you for making this video it really strenghtened my faith.

[@caesaramador4500]

I want to see the evidence that millions of Nephites lamanites and jaredites, and Mulekites lived in the America's I want to see that metallic currency that they used I want to see the evidence of swords because they always went to war where is all that at

[@maxwellsilverhammer9233]

You will not find that which is of fiction. The BoM is a pathetic lie destroyed by access to knowledge.

[@caesaramador4500]

@@maxwellsilverhammer9233 i like that, because it was hard for the average person to have access to a lot of info out there

[@katie2928]

@@maxwellsilverhammer9233 BINGO!

[@jamescrane6583]

The book of mormon doesn't provide enough information to identify "exactly" where they might have traveled.

[@whabaskeythethird]

Well duh, neither does the Bible with the Exodus of the Jews in the desert. Yet here we are saying the Bible is true

[@jamescrane6583]

@@whabaskeythethird the Exodus is also just a myth.

[@whabaskeythethird]

@@jamescrane6583 well, then I can respect your belief a little more tbh.

[@charlesmendeley9823]

Answer: none

[@witharebelyell2762]

You already admitted that Nehem was drawn on maps in Joseph Smiths time. And that he got the name "Nahom" wrong as it is Nehem. It has to be assumed that NHM was made into Nehem without regard to what vowels they put in. Funny how you LDS just skip right over that to laude that JS was a prophet and "foresaw" into the past with knowledge that was already around/available and he still got it wrong...Nahom for Nehem. A couple of people go to Arabia and you're claiming NHM, but millions upon millions of Nephites/Lamanites/Jaredites cant's be traced or found 1 THING of anywhere in the world! Amazing! Although some apologists have described the odds of this Nahom/Nihm/”NHM” correlation as “astronomical,” it hardly even rises to the level of notable coincidence. The Book of Mormon derives its names from a book that has Semitic sources, i.e., the King James Bible. Many of the names in the Book of Mormon are just plucked directly from the Bible, e.g., “Lehi” (Judges 25:9), Laban (Gen. 24-30), Lemuel (Prov. 31:1-9). Other names, however, use the Bible as their inspiration with alterations, e.g., “Jarom” (“Joram” 2 Sam. 8:10), “Omni” (“Omri” 1 Kings 16:16), “Nehor” (“Nahor” Gen. 11:22). “Nahom” easily fits into the latter category: “Nahum” is actually a book of [the] Old Testament.

[@nelsonchung8570]

Paleo-Hebrew was written without vowels. So what was in the BOM is the closets possible.

[@witharebelyell2762]

Wrong. NHM can be: Naham, Nihim, Nahim, Nohom, Nuhum, Nuhim, Nehem, Nehim, Nehum, Nahom, Noham etc. And that still leaves out that a couple of people could leave a trace in Arabia, but millions (Levites/Lamanites/Jaredites) didn't leave a trace at all! The LDS have had 180 years to find something and saying you're still looking is just ludicrous.

[@nelsonchung8570]

You are dead set on missing the point.

[@nelsonchung8570]

Paleo Hebrew was written without vowels. You seem to be hiding your head up your butt when faced with evidence you don't like.

[@witharebelyell2762]

C David: One doesn't have to accept falsehoods to be a good investigator. Why don't you tell the "rest of the story" about the Los Luna stone? From Wikipedia, "The first recorded mention of the stone is in 1933, when the late professor Frank Hibben (1910-2002), an archaeologist from the University of New Mexico, saw it.[4] According to a 1996 interview, Hibben was "convinced the inscription is ancient and thus authentic. He report[ed] that he first saw the text in 1933. At the time it was covered with lichen and patination and was hardly visible. He was taken to the site by a guide who had seen it as a boy, back in the 1880s."[5] However, Hibben's testimony is tainted by charges that in at least two separate incidents, he fabricated some or all of his archaeological data to support his pre-Clovis migration theory" Although it does sound like Mormons to stop at the first few sentences in order to keep their lies alive.

[@caleb8239]

Well then; NHM = Nahom = 100% proven = Lets go shopping!

[@Hpencer]

If you know about these topics you’ll know his statement is actually based on facts. Like the original name of Yahweh in the bible is YHWH. Because there were no vowels in written Hebrew.

[@Mcmj-ot4dt]

Oh, shutup, you hater. It's evidence, not proof.

[@googleuser1522]

Any teasers of future video topics? I'm most interested in the videos showing evidence of steel, horses, elephants, coins, wheels, or Jewish DNA in ancient America. Oh wait, none of those have been discovered.

[@zandersturgill]

The organization that published this video, Book of Mormon Central, has published about many of those things already. They have some wonderful responses. You should check them out some time. knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/content/why-hasn%E2%80%99t-lehi%E2%80%99s-dna-been-found knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/content/why-are-horses-mentioned-in-the-book-of-mormon knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/content/why-you-should-care-about-the-nephite-weights-and-measures-system

[@filmmakerdude]

well that was a disappointing site - I had hopes but all I found was horrible justifications and excuses with theories..."maybe...possibly - could have been theories", in other words apologist banter not actual straight talk of evidence - not even as strong as Anecdotal evidence. Reading the site is a little like listening to an intellectual parent talking to a child why is possible the Easter bunny delivers chocolate eggs

[@andreyrouk]

You can read about all of this here: www.mormoninterpreter.com/animals-in-the-book-of-mormon-challenges-and-perspectives/

[@filmmakerdude]

very thorough article....however way too many theories to justify the - Probably, maybes...one way to look at it....you know theories on how 2+2 could equal 5 - nothing solid as evidence. This soft evidence is good for people who dont question anything and believe whatever theyre told....after a while you grow up and say..."you know what, I dont think Santa does make all those toys and deliver them in one night on flying reindeer"

[@andreyrouk]

The thing is that I don`t just believe in things, I can see how gospel teachings work in my life. I prayed to know if the book of Mormon is true and received an answer that it is. You can do the same - read and pray to know if it`s true. I am from Crimea, Ukraine. I was in the middle of info-war when Russian propaganda tried to cover their crimes in Crimea or other parts of Ukraine. But I was a witness to Russian army entering Crimean peninsula. You can ask anybody in Russia and they will state the opposite. So where is the truth? I know that if you will come with a sincere desire to know if the BofM is true - you`ll get your own answer not from me, or any other mormon, but from God. But it`s up to you.

[@jackelinereyes7610]

Deuteronomy 18:22 When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not fear him. In other words: one false prophecy and you are out. Even if eventually there is actual proof for the Book of Mormon the foundation of it is false. Remember that Satan can turn into an angel of light leading “prophets” astray. Joseph Smith has so many false prophecies that are recorded in the church history. Some are even in D&C well at least in my version that I still keep just in case they make changes since it’s an old version.

[@MeanMints5]

No bro u never felt the spirit before. Doesn’t matter where or what church u are in, the spirit tells u that it is true.

[@ironsword3611]

@@MeanMints5 You don’t have the Holy Spirit brother. You’ve never been baptized in fire, the uncreated light, so stop your nonsense now. You have no idea what you’re talking about. The Holy Spirit is not a warm tingly feeling in your bosom, it’s an uncreated light that engulfs you with the glory of god and is visible to onlookers. You’ve never experienced this and you know it. Fake righteousness will get you nowhere bud.

[@MeanMints5]

@@ironsword3611 bro u don’t know that I got baptize when I was 8, u get baptize to receive the Holy Ghost. How is this church false if I can feel it explain that.

[@TheYammerHammer]

@@MeanMints5 lack of any linguistic, archeological, or DNA evidence tying any tribe of Native Americans to ancient Israelites

[@Mustardmanor]

There are some pretty big leaps with saying this is in the correct place based on a books information. That is speculative at best to say it is in the correct place. We do nit have joseph smith identifying this as the location on a map which then is later discovered to be a place of the same name through archaelogical evidence. This is weak speculation at best. In addition, if were talking about the cumulative evidence of the book of mormon wed also have to discuss the negative evidentiary support. The anachronisms of the book of mormon and lack of evidence on the american continents.

[@JohnDoe-eo8gi]

How much evidence would it take for you to believe? If there is no archeological evidence of exodus do we have to believe that?

[@Mustardmanor]

@@JohnDoe-eo8gi certainly stronger evidence than this. It is a city of a similar name on a section of desert where they might have been. That is not strong evidence. When you look at all the anachronisms of the book of Mormon, including that the area they might have then launched from (which several book of Mormon videos note) had no trees to make a boat large enough to travel the oceans... Anachronisms of the book of Mormon, mistakes and oddities in translations from the bible, verses copied from the bible which were written after the book of Mormon plates were created, etc. All of that is negative evidence. So there would have to be pretty compelling evidence to negate that. What often happens is a small glimmer of evidence shows up and members latch onto it while ignoring negative evidence. A true historian looks at the positive and negative evidence and attempts to put everything into perspective. There are far more negative evidences than positive. Now that DNA in south and central American tribes show an Asian land bridge crossing and not middle eastern connection, the book of Mormon historians are turning to north American tribes. Although no DNA has been found there either. And there's hearsay about Jewish and semitic coins and symbols being found in native tribes but I've never seen any actual archaeological evidence being discussed or shown in a museum. Historians aren't being blinded by Satan or using those prejudices to attack the church. In order for a high demand religion to succeed, a victim mentality of thinking they're under attack needs to happen. (I am not saying the Mormon or LDS church is a cult. It's a high demand religion. There's a difference. Even active members can recognize it is a high demand religion.)

[@WilliamWonder44]

Some may find it nice or even necessary to see archeological evidence for the Book of Mormon. However, the more evidence that is discovered, the less that faith plays a part in the book itself. If there were volumes of undisputed evidence for this book, faith itself isn't required, and therefore the book of Mormon would become just another history book and get lost in the annals of time.

[@littlecasino5331]

Wow. I never thought of it like that

[@littlecasino5331]

@@bradensorensen966 so is ignorance

[@raymondsaint4156]

But there is historical evidence for the bible, why not the Book of Mormon. Btw, even though I am a Christian myself, I am open minded to all beliefs. If I find proof of one thing or another, then I'm willing to consider it.

[@littlecasino5331]

@@raymondsaint4156 believe what you want, the proof for book of mormon is there if you look for it. If you dont i respect that too.

[@raymondsaint4156]

@@littlecasino5331 the thing is, I'm genuinely looking for tangible proof for Mormonism. It's not my mission to crap all over the LDS or any religion for that matter. I believe in the bible and in the Christian religion not because I was born in it, but because we have physical evidence for what the bible says and how Christianity fulfills what the bible says. Don't get me wrong, faith is definitely required- but God doesn't want us to make blatantly wrong answers. If Mormonism is correct over Christianity, then I for sure want to know. But it's not looking like that's the case.

[@GeraldineGlam]

Such a wonderful video!!! 💕 Thank you for your work

[@sethstarr8323]

Hatred for Mormonism is just baffling too me, even if you believe it to be untrue, the fact that it angers you that people don't drink, swear, wait until marriage to have sex and donate 10% of their money to a church that does insane amounts of humanitarian work is just crazy

[@trieck]

Why believe something if it is probably false?

[@jackelinereyes7610]

If you aren’t an ex-mormon then you will never understand. This cult has damaged so many people’s lives and relationships. Listen to Mormon story podcast to listen to some of them before you assume the hatred is from nothing. Mormonism is a corporation first/ religion second. They are the riches church in the world have 100 billion in savings and do not even do half of what they could be doing to help those in need with the money they have. They could end world hunger with the money they have. Instead they choose to built temples and malls.

[@tylerprice4415]

@@trieck Thomas, quit watching porn and partaking in sinful acts, it is limiting you from feeling the spirit. I wish that everyone regardless of their spiritual standing would be able to feel confirmation about the true church but unfortunately the lord wants us to act in faith in order for us to know if it is true.

[@trieck]

@@tylerprice4415 quit believing the liar , charlatan and criminal Joseph Smith.

[@yevz6360]

@@trieck Entirely false claims.

[@bradjennings8714]

You notice that most people can't tell you what they had for breakfast last Tuesday, but they can tell you for a surety what happened two hundred or two thousand years ago. I think not! That's why God gives us the spirit of truth / Holy Ghost.

[@kennyshields8598]

Read the Book of Mormon, find the truth of it yourself, it contains the teachings of Jesus Christ, and I know it’s true, that is my testimony.

[@davidsmock8235]

Cool story bro.

[@NashHonican]

That means nothing.

[@johncook8238]

You should read the Bible. Isaiah 43:10 says There was no God before me, nor shall there be one formed after me. This is a fact. Compared to you saying "I know it's true. I'll go with the written word of God.

[@davidsmock8235]

@@johncook8238 Idk who you're talking to but I have no use for the bible. Your argument is just as bad as the OP.

[@johncook8238]

@@davidsmock8235 Your opinion is kind of light, being that you've never read the bible. Why would you waist your time responding?

[@lilybee9875]

How the hell the civilisation in the Book of Mormon had horses if the horses are not animals native from the Americans not even Central and South America. Horses were bought to the American in the colonisation time though Europeans.

[@muaawiyahqadam2553]

Reformed Egyptian had a very limited vocabulary and likely had the same words for different but similar animals. Horse was given as the English adaptation and translation to the word. The Nephites could've ridden tapirs, deer, we don't truly know. But the horses in the Book Of Mormon weren't the literal European-made horses we know today.

[@lilybee9875]

Tsunami Joe there’s not another animal that people can ride on top and use in wars. Are you going to tell me that they were using Elephants? Sorry those animals are not natives from America too. It’s funny how people create so much meaningless excuses. Not only the animais that doesn’t match in the Book of Mormon but where are the archaeological evidence and also the thousands of bodies from the battles? The bible have all of those evidences but the Book of Mormon doesn’t have nothing that can actually been an archeological evidence. The DNA of the native Americans and Central and South America came from Asia not from Israel.

[@muaawiyahqadam2553]

Jamile Mamede I just said that they might’ve used Tapirs or Deer which is not that huge of a surprise. The Book of Mormon had never implied that the Nephites, Lamanaties, etc. were the exclusive inhabitants of the Americas. We don’t know their genetic profile, and that they’re the ancestors of modern native Americans. Mammoths and elephant-like species were found in the Americas during the time of the Jaredites.

[@muaawiyahqadam2553]

Jamile Mamede People have ridden camels in wars... Deer in wars as well.

[@lilybee9875]

Not in America for sure

[@juliedidlick2683]

They found last year (2021) that the ancient Nephi people used cement. They were doing deeper digs and found cement.

[@killerbing11]

So the name Neham was recorded on a map a century before Smith wrote the Book of Mormon? So Smith didn't come up with it he could have just copied it from this map? And then see on the map that if going East from the Neham place, which the BOM didn't even spell right, then it wouldn't be hard to see that or guess that there would be possibly an oasis. And then to include that in the story. Much evidence that Smith was a big reader and copier of others works. View of the Hebrews was a massive hit in his day and he would have had access to it and there are so many similarities, and for Smith to get a hold of map like this, which as said was written in the 18th century doesn't seem too out there either. Which is more plausible: That Smith saw God and he told him to write a book, using a hat and magic stones? Or that he used materials available to him to write a book? And even if Smith is a true prophet then wow, God did a terrible job at making it believable.

[@russelllewis5852]

Sad excuse for a rebuttal. Everything you just said is a bunch of "what ifs", not a solid explanation of anything. What if unicorns are real or there is gold at the end of the rainbow. Is there any evidence that the metropolitan city of Palmyra New York had any such information available? I'm sure a 14 year old farm boy from a struggling family had the time or means to go buy a copy of a book so he could find a single place name to weave into his incredibly complex nearly 600 page masterfully written book of scripture that sheds greater understanding on many Christian doctrines than even the Bible. Maybe you should take the time to actually read it with an open mind and heart rather than remain in your " the sky is red" world.

[@russelllewis5852]

Oh and God never told Joseph Smith to write a book. He translated a manuscript. Big difference.

[@Bennystafford777]

Good point Kenny! Anyone could grab this from a map. So where's all the evidence of the family? Ruins? Stones? Surely we have more than this to build a faith on?

[@littlecasino5331]

@@Bennystafford777 yeah but the map to NHM was discovered long after joseph smiths death. So he did infact translate a true book. But i say this and you are just going to say he "guessed"

[@billbirkett7166]

I'm just curious though...why is there a translation of 'Bountiful' into English and not of 'Nahom' in the text? It seems kind of arbitrary to translate one but not the other, if Nahom is indeed a Hebrew cognate of 'nicham'.

[@tylerprice4415]

I don't get it, why isn't bill Birkett, a better father or a more wealthy individual? I mean, it seems that he was given amazing circumstances as a kid relative to the majority of the population? This mind game that you're using to justify your belief is as ridiculous as the claim I just made about you. Quit watching porn and masturbating and doing other sinful acts and the lord will ALLOW you to feel his spirit. Quit being pitiful.

[@billbirkett7166]

@@tylerprice4415 Your comment is completely irrational, it follows from nothing I wrote and doesn't address the concern I had at all. And if you were trying to win me over to the supposed unusual compassion of Mormons, it certainly doesn't do that either.

[@greggsutton3363]

⚠️ Do not drink the Kool-Aid ⚠️

[@preble1980]

Haters gonna hate… It really amazes me how when people leave the church of Jesus Christ latter-day Saints they find a way to rag on it… I left my church to join the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints and I have never once posted anything against my previous faith… Haters gonna hate👊🏼

[@mr.hansholmes2367]

Do some research on jo smith. He made it all up to bang other members wives.

[@clonegaming6656]

We bash on it cause it is a racist cult

[@mormonvideos128]

That's because your previous religion wasn't a high demand religion that caused a lot of trauma. I had lots of ex-gf's that I never trash-talked about after our relationships ended, and I'm actually FB friends with all of them and we get along fine. On the other hand, ex-wife caused me a lot of trauma as I sacrificed decades of my life to try and appease her which I couldn't do no matter how hard I tried.

[@lootingiv4058]

@@mr.hansholmes2367 you do some research. all of these churches that were around at the time before Joseph Smith restored the correct church had NEVER claimed to have seen God or Jesus Christ. You would think yeah so its a bunch of crap that he came up with. HOWEVER if that was the case and nobody had seen them then he would only need to come up with that and call it good because nobody had done it and there would be nothing to prove. He said that peter james and john came down to give him the priesthood power. why would he come up with 3 other people when all he would need is God to do all of that. And even if he made mistakes NOBODY is perfect EXCEPT Jesus Christ who atoned for our sins. so if he made a mistake he could repent and be forgiven because of Jesus' atonement. he was only 14 or 15 when this happened and his writing level was of someone in elementary as of todays education but he somehow "came up with" this huge book that has words he wouldnt even know how to spell. plus there is recent research that proves the book of Mormon was written by multiple different authors which would prove that he did not make it up and he only translated it from all of the writings of ancient prophets. so how about you do your research before you make a comment when you clearly havent. (no disrespect meant) it just amazes me how people can bash on something. we dont bash you for not believing in it. yes we send missionaries out and try to teach of it but if they say no we leave them alone. we just try to bring people to the truth which they get the choice

[@Canut0]

Well said Roger ... thank you for sharing ♥️

[@Josh-ql9yu]

Why doesn't he read out more of the inscriptions?

[@naomipratt1947]

When you focus on the hits and ignore the misses it always looks good. The name Alma may have later been discovered to be a male name. However, the apologists fail to mention that, when The Book of Mormon was written, there were several males named Alma.

[@joeshawcroft7121]

I'm failing to see the miss in that? :D. IT was a critic argument that said Alma was a female name. If the critics knew so readily that there were males named Alma while the Book of Mormon was written, then why did they bring it up as evidence to disprove it?

[@edwardhughes1928]

lmfao this is exactly what you'd expect Mormons to say lmfao

[@1zcott]

Awesome vid. Who needs evidence when the truth of the BOM comes from the Holy Ghost.

[@matthewhessler3257]

Exactly! Holy Ghost is the greatest witness. The Book of Mormon is true! Get that first, then these videos are great for an added witness.

[@burning_trash]

That is not at all evidence, this same thing is observed in every religion.

[@cristianmerli5050]

Apparently you only accept a yes as an answer. Funny that people get no as an answer so it's not acceptable. Basically you're saying that the holy ghost only tells you YES. Btw, in other religions the holy ghost confirms them too, so? .... so the bible says, don't trust your heart because it's deceitful. God already gave the answers in the bible.

[@TheYammerHammer]

lack of any linguistic, archeological, or DNA evidence tying any tribe of Native Americans to ancient Israelites

[@LatterDayPup]

So much salt in this comment section my lord.

[@chinmeysway]

well it is pretty flavourless..

[@Pugpono]

Why is this BMC channel separate from the other one?

[@Bookofmormoncentralofficial]

Thank you for commenting. We decided that our first KZbin channel will mainly be for our regular short Knowhy videos which we try to release three times a week. This new channel will be for our newer videos such as this one. Thanks.

[@RazCloset]

I just found this channel. Thank you! Extremely grateful for your videos. Subscribed. I hope you do more. I'll watch them ALL.

[@conradwinkles5078]

How do you know god exists?

[@RazCloset]

Conrad Winkles - Believe me or not, I have experienced in more ways then I can count. Once you have a little bit of true faith, he'll show you more and more. I truly hope you see it. If not, no worries. Still love you.

[@conradwinkles5078]

What if my personal experience contradicts yours? How do we go about finding out who is correct?

[@RazCloset]

Conrad Winkles - I don't necessarily think opposite views matter. Just because I have had experiences that have shown me something, it doesn't make you wrong. Just seeing truth from a different angle.

[@conradwinkles5078]

Your personal experience isn't proof for it cannot be tested. Tell me, through your personal experience, how do you *know* the version of god you have in your head exists. Don't just say faith, faith isn't a good reason. I can have faith about virtually anything but this doesn't make it true. I can have faith that I'm George W. Bush, this doesn't make me George W. Bush.

[@sevensickszero6112]

Where is the archeological evidence for steel swords in precolumbian america and bones of the nephite / lammanite peoples......none have been found.....

[@latter-daytemplar7156]

"Where is the archeological evidence for steel swords in precolumbian america …" None have yet been found. However, archaeology is based on the logical principle that "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." This combined with the fact that a very small percentage of the Americas has been properly surveyed/excavated makes it unsurprising that steel swords are among the shrinking number of claims of The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ that have not yet been archaeologically discovered. "… and bones of the nephite / lammanite peoples......none have been found....." How would we know whether any Nephite or Lamanite remains have been found? We do not have any Ephraimite/Manassehite DNA against which to test, nor do we have any other metric whereby to measure whether an archaeological find is of Nephite or Lamanite origin.

[@sevensickszero6112]

@@latter-daytemplar7156 if you study the native american weapons before columbian settlers , there will be NO steel weapons mentioned UNTIL the european settlers arrived.....the nephite /lamanite wars happened around NY I assume , because that's where joseph "found" the golden plates. So there should be plenty of easy to find evidence for those peoples, of which the mormon church wasn't able to find ANYTHING when they searched for fifteen years.....they said " whats in the book is not in the ground" (paraphrased from memory).....

[@latter-daytemplar7156]

​@@sevensickszero6112 "… if you study the native american weapons before columbian settlers , there will be NO steel weapons mentioned UNTIL the european settlers arrived …" According to what's been found, sure. However, this does not logically address the point that I have brought up: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. New things are being discovered every day; even so, it's highly unlikely that a majority of the Americas will ever be properly surveyed/excavated. There's also the possibility that those Nephites who translated the Book of Ether used "steel" as a loanword to describe something of a similar concept; this is a common linguistic phenomenon. "… the nephite /lamanite wars happened around NY I assume , because that's where joseph 'found' the golden plates." While it's certainly your prerogative to assume that that's where those wars happened, there's nothing to support this position. Moroni (the last keeper of the record) wandered for years after his people were killed in those wars and before he buried the plates. To me, it doesn't make much (if any) sense that he'd have returned to a place where he'd be hunted just to bury a record that could have been buried literally anywhere else.

[@sevensickszero6112]

@@latter-daytemplar7156 " absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" ......also absence of evidence could mean there is NO evidence , wouldn't you agree? Like if someone ia accused of murder but there's "absence of evidence" does that mean that he's logically guilty ?...........

[@sevensickszero6112]

@@latter-daytemplar7156 you claim that "steel" might of been a "loan word" ...so God doesn't know steel from another material ?...God could've communicated the right word to whoever was "translating" ....in the bible we don't have" loan words. Each word in the original manuscripts in the bible was the intended perfect word.The BOM that was supposedly translated by the power of God has mispelled words, EXACT PHRASES from" the late war between the united States and great britain" ( a school textbook that was used in NY schools in josephs youth, he probably read it due to the many EXACT phrases found in" the late war" and the BOM....the problem for LDS is that "the late war" was published in 1816 and the BOM was published in 1830.......

[@montgomeryfarrar5610]

Wonderful to have an an apologist to direct the narative ..... Now where is Zarahemla and a Church authorized Map showing the Mormon Lands and Cities ...

[@emilesturt3377]

Get a grip folks...

[@chaddvanzanten5434]

Nice video. Could you clarify, though, how exactly this constitutes evidence that the Book of Mormon is real? Places mentioned in the Book of Mormon also correlate VERY precisely with placenames in New England and Canada from Joseph Smith's time -- is this "evidence" that the Nephites lived there in the 19 century? Also, if you're going to make more videos, would you consider producing one about how there are horses, coinage, steel, wheat, and other glaring historical anachronisms in the Book of Mormon? Maybe follow that up with why the Book of Mormon is startlingly similar to other texts that came before it, such as View of the Hebrews by Ethan Smith and The Late War by Gilbert Hunt? Could you explain why the original text of the Book of Mormon has been changed to make God seem less racist? Could you whip up a quick video to help us understand why the Introduction of the Book of Mormon now states that Book of Mormon peoples are "among" the ancestors of Native Americans, rather than stating that they are "the principal ancestors" of Native Americans? While I admit that certain word and placename correlations in the Book of Mormon are mildly interesting and make for nice video clips, the many signs and evidences that the Book of Mormon is a fraud would make videos that are much more compelling.

[@matthewcutler6138]

Chadd VanZanten the majority of your above claims are either misconstrued half-truths or just flat out false, and all of it's unsubstantiated. If you're actually interested in everything you just mentioned, honestly asking those questions, and not just being a troll, then I will respond by saying that the organization that produced this video - Book of Mormon Central - does in fact have answers and material relating to everything you just mentioned and you can find it and learn for yourself at bookofmormoncentral.org

[@darkgoat2167]

"just flat out false, and all of it's unsubstantiated", you might want to read "CES letter" and "letter to my wife".

[@jamescutler428]

And it sounds like you might want to read the response to the CES Letter that has been out for quite some time: www.fairmormon.org/answers/Criticism_of_Mormonism/Online_documents/Letter_to_a_CES_Director/Debunking_FairMormon

[@DiffQ_Bro]

Chadd VanZanten there are so many place names in the northeast you can easily pick and choose what you want. there are even some anti-Mormon sites who acknowledge this.

[@1mrthekid]

James Cutler and perhaps you'd be interested in "Debunking Fair's Debunking."

[@MrBilgey]

If anything you claim in your presentation is true the LDS Church leaders would publish an account.

[@jonathanhill8551]

Why? Do you think that the prophet is really concerned about these type of things? The church has never been centered around PROVING it's truth, it's centered around finding for yourself the truth. Nobody is going to base a theological testimony off of any type of physical evidence like this. They, like I did, will build their testimony off of spiritual experiences.

[@Mcmj-ot4dt]

Not how it works bro

[@MrBilgey]

@@jonathanhill8551 Firstly, I've never heard the so called prophet of the LDS church make a prophecy on any topic. As for your idea that a person can find the truth without the need for proof. Millions of Muslims believe the Koran contains the truth. Millions of Catholics believe the Pope is God's legitimate representative on Earth. Anyone can believe anything without the need for proof. With regard to the LDS church and evidence for what Joseph Smith claimed in his Book of Mormon. The LDS church is the product of the total nonsense contained in Smith's so called Book of Mormon. Smith's book is said to be a history, and by definition history is evidence based. When someone declares I have a testimony of the Book of Mormon, in that declaration there is no accountability, there is no explanation. Why should anyone accept any belief based declaration.

[@jonathanhill8551]

@@MrBilgey I never said that anybody should build any beliefs on declaration. I don't expect anyone to believe what I believe just because I say that I believe it. And yeah, there's not physical proof that the book of Mormon is true, but guess what, there also isn't really any proof that it isn't. As for your point about never hearing an LDS prophet give revelation, if you think that, you clearly haven't done your research. In the last 30 years, the first presidency has released 3 proclamation, which are considered divine revelation, and is therefore, a prophesy. Lastly, I don't really care what you believe. I'm not trying to attack you, or make you believe what I do. I just want you (and people like you) to stop attacking the church just because you don't agree with it. This probably won't mean anything to you, but I personally have had experiences that could only be considered as divine. I KNOW that the Book of Mormon is the word of God (not believe, not suspect, KNOW). If you disagree, then that's fine. Please just stop trying to destroy what I love, just because you think it's wrong

[@johnrowley310]

@@jonathanhill8551 God help you. Jesus was raising people from the dead. He showed himself to 500 people after rising from the dead.He performed miracles. Was this just a side show or did it lead many to follow him?

[@Slippinjimmy1221]

Do you have a video or explanation somewhere of what happened to the thousands of steel swords that were used in battle?

[@KAREN-wj4bk]

Do you always need to see it to believe it? God even showed you some evidence and you still hardened your heart and ask for more proof.

[@brettmajeske3525]

The BoM never mentions thousands of steel swords. It mentions one steel sword, and that other swords were fashioned after its manner. Ignoring that, steel rusts, copper, bronze, nickle are all more resistent to time than steel.

[@barbwire7449]

Interesting that the Ketef Hinnom Scroll, an ancient Hebrew text from the Book of Numbers, dated 600 B.C., discovered in 1979, was still intact and not destroyed. 600 B.C is the same date that the LDS church claims the lost Hebrew tribe landed in America. Christians have archeology discoveries that date all the way back to mormon origin, but there is still no evidence of Mormon origin. The Biblical city of Jericho is considered by many archeologists to be the oldest city in the world. Archeologists have uncovered evidence dating back to 9,000 B.C.E., including barley and wheat, products that are easily destroyed over centuries. The mighty civilizations with their mighty militaries mentioned in the BOM disappeared without a trace. That is absurd.

[@nerdnul]

No. There is no supporting evidence for the BoM.

[@tebwebwetionatan9701]

Hold.. On. They are still finding it lol

[@1zcott]

you hope

[@nerdnul]

@@1zcott The story about the devout mormon Thomas Ferguson, who persuaded the LDS presidency to set up an archeolgoical wing to seek out archeological evidence of the book of mormon is quite interesting: He was granted $250,000 from the church to use to conduct the research. After ten years of solid archeological digs and research you will never guess what he found…that’s right NOTHING. Absolutely NOTHING to support the fake book. The poor man wasted 10 years of his life looking for a lie eventually losing his testimony when he had to fact the bleak truth of the SWINDLE that is joseph smith jr and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day LIES!!! Read from below from where at first the LDS ‘Church' resisted financing the research. The article also recounts the devastation felt by Ferguson when on top of realizing there was no science to support the book of mormon it had been discovered that Joseph Smiths translation of the Egyptian papyri into his book of Abraham was also embarrassingly wrong and an out and out fraud. The last paragraph is referring to Hugh Nibley who mormons revere as a great scholar and defender of the faith, ridiculous as it is. Ferguson's persistence and persuasiveness paid off,... Ferguson appealed to his good friend J. Willard Marriott for assistance. The following day Ferguson had an appointment with President McKay which Marriott had arranged. President David O. McKay listened to Tom Ferguson's proposal and asked the specific amount he was requesting. Ferguson replied, 'Only about the amount that it would take to build a chapel.' "President McKay gave him a penetrating glance. 'We build $50,000 chapels and $250,000 chapels. Which did you have in mind? Tom Ferguson promptly replied, 'A $250,000 chapel.' That was the amount granted, sufficient to underwrite five years' work in a generous way (1955-1959).... It was during this period that Ferguson spent approximately half of his working time away from law, devoting this time to administering the affairs of the NWAF, giving speeches, studying and writing about the archaeology and history of ancient America and their relationship to the Book of Mormon." It was agreed that the New World Archaeology Foundation would not "discuss direct connections with the Book of Mormon, but rather to allow the work to stand exclusively on its scholarly merits." (Ibid., p. 276) The church provided financial support for this organization for many years. It was eventually "attached to and administered through BYU." In a paper entitled, "Thomas Stuart Ferguson, 1915-83," Fred W. Nelson wrote the following: "Thomas Ferguson has either directly or indirectly influenced thousands of people's thinking on archaeology.... He has had a great influence on professional archaeology through the Department of Archaeology at Brigham Young University, the Gates Collection, and the New World Archaeological Foundation. Ferguson's legacy in the founding of the Archaeology Department at Brigham Young University, the obtaining of the Gates Collection, and as founder of the New World Archaeology Foundation stands as a shining example to us all." (As cited in The Messiah in Ancient America, pp. 282-83) From all that we can learn, Thomas Stuart Ferguson was a dedicated believer in the authenticity of the Book of Mormon at the time he founded the New World Archaeology Foundation. He really believed that archaeology would prove the Book of Mormon. In a letter dated April 23, 1952, Mr. Ferguson said the "the archaeological data now available is entirely inadequate" for testing the Book of Mormon. He predicted, however, that the "next ten years of excavations in Mexico and Guatemala should enable us to make the archaeological tests." For a number of years he was very excited about the progress of the work and seemed certain that the Book of Mormon would be vindicated soon. In his book, One Fold And One Shepherd, p. 263, he stated: "The important thing now is to continue the digging at an accelerated pace in order to find more inscriptions dating to Book-of-Mormon times. Eventually we should find decipherable inscriptions, referring to some unique person, place or event in the Book of Mormon." In 1962 Mr. Ferguson said that "Powerful evidences sustaining the book are accumulating" EVIDENCE NOT FOUND Although many important archaeological discoveries were made that were not related to his search, the evidence he had desired to find to support the Book of Mormon did not turn up. In response to a letter Hal Hougey wrote in 1972 which reminded him that he had predicted in 1961 that Book of Mormon cities would be found within 10 years, Mr. Ferguson sadly wrote: "Ten years have passed... I sincerely anticipated that Book-of-Mormon cities would be positively identified within 10 years--and time has proved me wrong in my anticipation." (Letter dated June 5, 1972) At first it had all seemed so simple; since the Book of Mormon told when the Nephites were in Mesoamerica, all one had to do was find archaeological sites that dated to the period and the Book of Mormon would be established by the evidence. The fact that archaeological research failed to provide the confirmation which Mr. Ferguson expected to find must have weighed very heavily on his mind. The most serious blow to Ferguson's faith, however, came just after Joseph Smith's Egyptian Papyri were rediscovered in the Metropolitan Museum of Art. This collection, which had been lost for many years, contained the very papyrus from which Joseph Smith "translated" the Book of Abraham. The Book of Abraham is published in the Pearl of Great Price, one of the four standard works of the Mormon Church. After Mr. Ferguson obtained photographs of the papyrus fragments, he consulted Professors Lutz and Lesko of the University of California. Both these Egyptologists agreed that the papyrus Joseph Smith claimed was the Book of Abraham was in reality the Book of Breathings, an Egyptian funerary text made for a man by the name of Hor (Horus). Ferguson learned that this papyrus had nothing at all to do with the patriarch Abraham or his religion. It was in its entirety a pagan text filled with the names of Egyptian gods and goddesses. Thomas Stuart Ferguson was shaken to the core by this discovery. When the church's noted apologist, Dr. Hugh Nibley, began defending the Book of Abraham, he wrote a letter to another member of the church in which he stated: "Nibley's articles on the Book of Abraham aren't worth a tinker-first, because he is not impartial, being the commissioned and paid defender of the faith. Second, because he could not, he dared not, he did not, face the true issue: 'Could Joseph Smith translate Egyptian?'... By study of the GRAMMAR [Joseph Smith's Egyptian Alphabet and Grammar], the recovered papyrus, and the illustrations, it is perfectly obvious that we now have the oringinal [sic] manuscript material used by Jos. Smith in working up the Book of Abraham. Prof Klaus Baer of Univ. of Chicago, Prof Lutz of U.C. (Berkeley), Prof. Lesko (U.C. Berkeley) and Egyptologist Dee Jay Nelson, all agree that the original manuscript Egyptian text translates into the Breathing Permit of Hor (Egyptian God).... The work of the two UC professors was done at my request and is unpublished. All 4 agree with each other, and without having conferred or collaborated. (My UC men did not, and still do not, know that there is any relationship of the manuscript material to the Mormon Church, Joseph Smith, Book of Abraham- or whatever....

[@lootingiv4058]

being darkened in their understanding, excluded from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart; Ephesians 4:18. God is looking for you. pray for the truth in the book of mormon after reading it and you will find the truth in it. but dont be like the people of that verse i shared

[@nerdnul]

@@lootingiv4058 I love to tell the story of when I was in college in 1986 and the door bell rang. Two of the nicest LDS Elder Missionaries came into the humble house I was renting with two other military veterans and shared the Book of Mormon with me. I listened to everything they said and shared with them that I was a Christian of no denomination and had spent many years studying the Bible and serving God through Jesus Christ. They asked me to read the Book of Mormon "Prayerfully" and ask god whether it was true or not. They further stated that it was "the most correct book on earth." I had not heard anything about the Mormons before this encounter except for maybe that they (mormons) do not drink coffee and their poygamist past. It was very curious to me that they came to my door with a mission and desire for me to learn what they confessed to me as “the one true church." I did what they asked because, after all, this may have been a Holy appointment where God was telling me there is more than the Bible for you to study, live by, and share with others. I read the BoM all week, prayed, fasted, asked of the Lord whether it was true or not, and I was, in fact, moved to an illuminated answer by the power of the Holy Spirit. The Elders returned two weeks later and I asked them in. Their first question was did I read the BoM as we discussed. I told them I read the BoM "prayerfully" as instructed and received an answer from the Holy Spirit that this was NOT the word of God but rather a shabby concoction of 19th century mock-bible stories, written by a fraud or set of frauds. The huge amount of anachronistic issues was profound, along with the lack of Spiritual inspiration. I knew in my heart, and the Holy Spirit testified that this was NOT the Word of the God I serve. As I shared this with the Elders, they said this never happened before and that the BoM possesses certain qualities where you will be told it is true if you read it and feel a "warmth in your bosom.” They once again, insisted that the BoM was the most correct book ever to have come fourth. I felt only the Holy Spirit sounding a warning that this blasphemy of the Mormon religion was a cult where the practitioners are kept in toil and works as a way to keep them off balance and bleed them of time, talent and treasure. I saw through the false stories and lack of geographic locations and archeological evidences. It further gave me a burden that these nice young men, my age and my likened sense of humor, were captives in this web of Satanic deception. They were victims of a “feeling” they had and not of devine inspiration. I see LDS as a counterfeit church of Christ - not a bunch of horrible people, just people attempting to negotiate a fake faith. A counterfeit bill always says it is legal tender, I point this out whenever I’m told the name of the church has Jesus thereupon. With a counterfeit bill in circulation, one can spend it unknowingly and it can be tendered unknowingly. The problem is, eventually, the counterfeit is discovered and accountability is demanded. After I retired from military service after 38 years, I decided to make my life's goal as a Christian, to expose LDS by the very historic documents written by LDS. I have read and nearly memorized the Pearl of Great Price, Doctrines and Covenants, and the History of the Church Volumes. The pereoticles published by LDS are also near and dear to me since they provide the sourses of the lies, deceptions and hoaxes perpetrated by LDS over the years they have existed. I love it when I’m accused of being Anti-Mormon when I show mormons their own history. It begins a good conversation. My church today is full of x-mormons with a testimony of their life under the deception of LDS. How about you, have you examined the evidence of the Bible compared to the evidence of the BoM? Have you asked of God to let the scales fall off your eyes? Seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you. Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you. Let me teach you, because I am humble and gentle at heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy to bear, and the burden I give you is light. MATTHEW 11:28-30 Some LDS members are content in their state of works-based theology, yet all one needs to do is poll the x-mormon community and see through their eyes how the grace of Jesus Christ has healed them from their anti-christian past. They reject the LDS brand of jesus and claim the truth of the Biblical Christ.

[@nerdnul]

Are you serious? This is all you have? LOL!

[@mattmatician]

Are you serious? This is all you have? LOL!

[@carterbrown9695]

No it’s not. It’s just one thing

[@TheYammerHammer]

@@carterbrown9695 where is the rest of it?

[@mikkifrompreston]

@@carterbrown9695 where is the evidence of swords, chariots, elephants, horses, and the remnants of a 2 million people war. Where are the hundreds of thousands of steel sword artifacts? Why aren’t they anywhere, especially where the Book of Mormon was found

[@TheYammerHammer]

@@mikkifrompreston they will come back and tell you that only 2% of miso America has been archaeologically gone through. But the church has 160 billion dollars to fund such an exploration

[@heberfrank8664]

The Book of Mormon model that to me is by far the most convincing is the Andes model. Read and digest these 30 posts by Del and you will see what I mean: goo.gl/fP1yCS You will have to use the Menu on the right side of the web page to go to each next post.

[@jacobmayberry1126]

Awesome video. Love that more evidence is mounting for the Book of Mormon.

[@jacobmayberry1126]

@Stealth Mode quite the opposite actually. Have you read Warren Aston's book "Lehi and Sariah in Arabia" ? Aston cites just as many non lds sources as he does lds. It's really irrelevant anyways. LDS scholars are just as capable of making sound arguments as anyone else.

[@len2842]

of course' why would you think it would not' any lie' will be backed up by their disciples' but backed up with elaborately con-stucted lies frauds and hoax's just as with the dead Gods disciples for evolution erected and crusaded with' e idence of being in bed with the father of lies' and therefore a false religion' is the adopting into "so-called Christian organizations of evolutions sci'fi serries "ongoing lies frouds and hoaxes" constructed' God knows who loves him' and he recognizes all who claim to teach' in his Sons name, Jesus' says' Matthew 7:13-23 in particular' vrs 21-23; ;

[@thenewhindemithians8629]

0:17 no.

[@tuckerlundquist8311]

That’s what he should’ve said and that should’ve been the end of the video

[@jcs7757]

fine quality video and edition. nice study you've done. hugs from lds member in brazil!

[@Urbangardener1]

I remember when I first learned the LIE of the Mormon text. When I was told that after Jesus died, he supposedly flew over to South America and revealed himself to another group of people. And at the South American people were actually the old Mormon civilizations. Anybody with even the slightest amount of archaeological history would understand the absurdity of this idea. But I have to admit, my Mormon friends are pretty rich and they make great customers. We don't talk about religion anymore. But when I confronted my friend about the book of abraham, he had no idea it was a fictitious document that has been proven to be a fraud time and time again. Even after looking up this information and finding out I was right, it did not shake his faith. But he was a dedicated father of like 15 kids so it's understandable why he wouldn't want to run that by suddenly becoming an atheist. I'm just sorry to hear that people believe this malarkey at all. But I've never had a Mormon get pushy with me like Protestant groups. I think they're the worst of all. Both of these groups live in a fictional universe where there's a little man up in heaven watching everything we do.

[@jacksonrelaxin3425]

The Bible is real and that’s why so many frauds like Smith try to change and rewrite it.

[@lootingiv4058]

would you answer questions of me? If the gold plates never existed, how did Joseph get numerous witnesses to stand by their stories until their dying day, even when some of them later became angry with Joseph and left the Church? How could Joseph have known about ancient cement technology in the first century B.C. in Mesoamerica? How could Joseph Smith make up dozens of names in the Book of Mormon that would later be shown to be authentic ancient Semitic names? Where did Joseph Smith get the idea of ancient scriptures written on metal plates? How did Joseph Smith know about ancient practices regarding preservations of sacred texts? Why do other ancient documents support the Book of Mormon's idea that the ancient Joseph prophesied of Moses and Aaron? If there was no apostasy in the Church of Jesus Christ, then what happened to prophets? If Joseph Smith just made up the idea of vicarious baptism for the dead, why do numerous ancient documents validate the LDS claim that this was an authentic early Christian practice? At a time when all Christian churches taught that temples were no longer needed, how did Joseph so effectively restore the ancient temple concept on his own? What other church better corresponds with early Christianity in terms of teaching the true relationship between faith, grace, and works? Why do the earliest Christian writings sound much closer to LDS theology than they to modern "mainstream" Christianity? If it's unchristian, unbiblical, and evil to believe that humans have divine potential, why do many Biblical and early Christian sources speak of the humans becoming "gods"? If the Bible is infallible, by whose authority were the various books of the Bible selected in an infallible manner? By whose authority were the infallible translations made and approved? Who authorized the changes in the ritual of baptism that occurred since the New Testament Church? And who in your church has true authority from God to perform baptisms? If the Book of Abraham is a fraud, then how do you account for the details in the text that would later be given extensive support by numerous ancient documents that were not available to Joseph Smith?

[@KyRas22]

@@lootingiv4058 amen. I've read the book of mormon and prayed about it. I've always stood by it and always will.

[@whabaskeythethird]

@@lootingiv4058 okay bud, I've got all the answers right here... Because God restores the church. BOOM! Hahaha, very good questions, left em speechless for 4 months

[@Rypaul5217]

It is what is missing from its pages, that makes the Book of Mormon story (supposedly that of more than a thousand year civilization) by what is lacking in human culture and reality, that puts a question about its legitimacy or historicity, for example: there is no mention of any of the 7 days of the week in Joseph Smith book of Mormon. Wouldn't the book of Mormon people know about or would go by a 7 day week? like Monday Tuesday Wednesday etc.? There is also no mention of any of the 4 seasons in Smith's book of Mormon, surely if there were such history of Book of Mormon peoples, there would be at least one mention about any of the 4 seasons somewhere in time. There is no mention of any moon cycles either, surely book of Mormon peoples could see the moon during the month cycle. calendar with names for months in J. Smith's book of Mormon either. unfortunately, there are no gem rocks mentioned either, like diamonds, emeralds, rubies, sapphires, opals, surely there could be at least one precious gem known by such alleged ancient Americans. There is no mention of any one of the animals that we DO see that are ingenious to the ancient American continent, like monkeys, parrots, lamas, ant eaters, tapirs, instead, joseph mentions what is NOT ingenious to the Americas, like silk worms, horses, goats, sheep, cows, swine, and elephants. elephants??? How on earth did a herd of elephants get themselves over to the Americas? They swam? I mean they couldn't fly over here, am I right?...lol

[@tylerprice4415]

I would delete your comment ASAP. Ignorance is bliss folks

[@shaneownbey]

The Book of Mormon is the "Stick of Joseph" foretold by the Bible. Don't just listen to me, or anyone else for that matter. You are responsible for your own destiny and future. Your personal peace and happiness are the most important endeavors you could ever pursue. Do NOT, please do NOT trust your future to anyone. Find out for yourself. Do your own research and make up your own mind. Good luck and thanks for listening :)

[@johnrowley310]

My destiny won't be burning in hell with old Joe...

[@redfightblue]

@@gordianknot9595 Jeremiah tells us that many Jews were going into Egypt to escape Babylon. Jeremiah also says a remnant will return. Since Ezekiel calls it the "Stick of Joseph", I think he might be talking about the Jews that went into Egypt because Joseph went into Egypt. This is reiterated in Ether 13:6-7 where the migration to Egypt is called the Lords "type". Joseph, son of Jacob is used as the example. What Mormons don't realize is that the Book of Mormon takes place in Africa. Lehi migrated to Egypt and the Nephites are a tribe of Ethiopian Jews. The return of the record is detailed at the end of the Book of Mormon when Mormon takes the record back to the Land North. This was prophesized by Ezekiel and Jeremiah. The Land North is Israel. The Land South is Africa. The Narrow Neck of Land is the Isthmus of Suez. Lehi did not sail to America. If he sailed anywhere, it was a circumnavigation of Africa in 600 BC and Lehi is the sailor Herodotus describes in Herodotus Book 4, Chapter 40-42. These chapters describe Africa in identical terms as Alma 22:32. Asia is Desolation. Egypt is Narrow. There is a Sea to Sea across the Narrow Place. The Distance across the Narrow Place is defined and Africa is claimed to be "Surrounded by Water" by Alma and "Bounded by the Sea" by Herodotus.

[@redfightblue]

@@gordianknot9595 I presented a pretty logical explanation. It's not one being looked at because it goes against what Joseph Smith said. It checks all the boxes on anachronisms. Africa has elephants horses and silk. I had a period of life where I threw out the Book of Mormon as complete fiction before I discovered this theory. Now the Book of Mormon is totally explained in my mind. I had never even heard of Ethiopian Jews before.

[@redfightblue]

@@gordianknot9595 I know. You're right. But here's what you missed. The Bible stories are intentionally used by Ethiopian Jews. They wrote the stories to intentionally mimic the Bible. This bolsters their claims that they are the true righteous people and Gods chosen. The 19th century theology was added before it was published. The true history of Ethiopian Jews in Ethiopia was used by Joseph Smith after he altered it to apply to ancient America instead of ancient Ethiopia. For example, compare Jeremiah 44 to Helaman 3. In Jeremiah 44, God makes Egypt Desolate. In Helaman 3, the people are returning North to Egypt (from Ethiopia). The "treeless" desolate land where they use cement and ship timber in (Cedar from Lebanon) is Egypt.

[@blakenelson3898]

This isn't evidence

[@jandalzz]

Ive done research on my own n this bu far is the closest to my research....i believe....

[@Apostolinen]

Wow... more salt in here than in the Dead Sea. Guys, you don't have to believe in the Book of Mormon. It's OK. I mean, you'd be wrong, but it's just fine!

[@topevlogs558]

Almost none of the prophecies have been proven in the Book of Mormon and many are past due and won’t happen, But not a single prophecy from the Bible has been false. And people still really have doubts of the holy bible,, just doesn’t make sense at all

[@ba312afu8]

Tope Vlogs 🤔 I think there mistake? You state that none prophecies have ever been proven? Clearly you did not read the BOM? Here’s why.. in 2 nephi chapter 6 it says For Joseph truly testified, saying: A seer shall the Lord my God raise up, who shall be a choice seer unto the fruit of my loins. 7 Yea, Joseph truly said: Thus saith the Lord unto me: A choice seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins; and he shall be esteemed highly among the fruit of thy loins. And unto him will I give commandment that he shall do a work for the fruit of thy loins, his brethren, which shall be of great worth unto them, even to the bringing of them to the knowledge of the covenants which I have made with thy fathers. 8 And I will give unto him a commandment that he shall do none other work, save the work which I shall command him. And I will make him great in mine eyes; for he shall do my work. 9 And he shall be great like unto Moses, whom I have said I would raise up unto you, to deliver my people, O house of Israel. Now who would Jospeh from Egypt be talking about? Jospeh smith. A seer and “ he shall do a work for thy loins” what would that mean? The golden plates...

[@ba312afu8]

But no disrespect or anything.. you have a right to say your opinion or believe what you believe. Have a good day😊 topevlogs

[@lynnjohnson2371]

Tope this is not an argument, just a wild, unfounded accusation.

[@mattmassey5762]

Where are the chariots and spears. Where is the metal smelting equipment. Where are the elephant artifacts that the Book of Mormon speaks of it speaks of barley and other crops that were non-existent in the Americas at that time. I noticed you only put in what you want to put in just like the Book of Mormon and leave out the rest of the inconvenient facts.

[@zandersturgill]

Many of those things have been discovered. Such as barley and spears and cement and highways and so forth. Some things are discovered and slowly dating to Book of Mormon times (the Book of Mormon only mentions elephants thousands of years ago, closer to the last remnants of mastadons which are now dating to 5,000 years). If you follow Book of Mormon Centrals channel, they have videos for all this stuff. Here's their channel and one such video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pomqe6Rtm7Gnmbc

[@zandersturgill]

It's not my fault even non-LDS scholars call it barley. Some critics are so quick to make assumptions without even looking at even non-LDS scholarship on these issues. Critics lack of understanding of even the basics of what Joseph claimed, barley, spears (David L. Webster, “Warfare,” in Archaeology of Ancient Mexico and Central America, 806) is just astounding sometimes. But I'll admit, it's only a few critics who creep on KZbin comment sections criticizing a faith they supposedly have nothing to do with. It's like critics are so obsessed, they forget simple research and civility. But trust me, that behavior does little to convince me of their claims.

[@zandersturgill]

Well, have fun in your mission in bringing down other peoples faiths that don't agree with yours. As for me, I'm more than happy with my faith in Christ found in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and the relationship I have with Him.

[@strattino]

Guys this is not the place you should look if you want to know if this church is true. The video is fascinating and explains the archaeology really darn well but this isn't solid proof. Likewise, just because it is not solid proof does not disprove everything else that backs up the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

[@jetcitysinatra7300]

*Strattino* What prey tell does back up the LDS church? Just askin. . .

[@strattino]

@@jetcitysinatra7300 Love to explain! Isaiah 29 11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which *men deliver to one that is learned,* saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, *I cannot; for it is sealed:* 12 And the book is delivered to him that is *not learned,* saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. (A prophecy concerning a sealed book being brought forth in the last days. ) Joseph Smith history verse 64 - 65 (This is Martin Harris's own account of the moment) “I went to the city of New York, and presented the characters which had been translated, with the translation thereof, to Professor Charles Anthon, a gentleman *celebrated for his literary attainments.* Professor Anthon stated that the translation was correct, more so than any he had before seen translated from the Egyptian. I then showed him those which were not yet translated, and he said that they were Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac, and Arabic; and he said they were true characters. He gave me a certificate, certifying to the people of Palmyra that they were true characters, and that the translation of such of them as had been translated was also correct. I took the certificate and put it into my pocket, and was just leaving the house, when Mr. Anthon called me back, and asked me how the young man found out that there were gold plates in the place where he found them. I answered that an angel of God had revealed it unto him." “He then said to me, ‘Let me see that certificate.’ I accordingly took it out of my pocket and gave it to him, when he took it and tore it to pieces, saying that there was no such thing now as ministering of angels and that if I would bring the plates to him he would translate them. I informed him that part of the plates were sealed, and that I was forbidden to bring them. He replied, *I cannot read a sealed book.* I left him and went to Dr. Mitchell, who sanctioned what Professor Anthon had said respecting both the characters and the translation.” The men who delivered the book to a man who was educated are Martin Harris and Joseph Smith Professor anthon was a very learned person in that field that once being told the origin of the book, decided to go against the evidence that he verified before and tore up the manuscript: 'I cannot read a sealed book' Sound familiar? Joseph Smith had the plates given to him by God, when he was *21* and had almost no prior education. There's more evidence if you want it!

[@jetcitysinatra7300]

@@strattino I noticed you didn't start in verse 10 of Isaiah but rather verse 11. Was there a reason for this? Verse 10 explains verse 11. 10. For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered. 11. And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: Now when you read these two verses together they change the whole meaning of verse 11 into something totally different than what you want it to mean. Am I getting something wrong here? It is using "Sealed Book" as a metaphor for Not being able to understand something that is plain to others. A learned man meaning biblical scholars thinking they know the TRUTH but actually know nothing of what the WORD means. Am I close?

[@strattino]

@@jetcitysinatra7300 Yes! Verse ten speaks of the apostacy when because of the wickedness of the world people rejected the prophets and their spiritual sight was blinded and no revelation or prophecy occurred *untill* the book is brought forth. The verses 13 - 14 are especially important. 13 ¶ Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: (This is exactly what you were describing, where the wise say they know the truth but don't understand and follow the word of god) 14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. (And because of the book being brought forth that contains the revelations lost to the world from a people who's 'voice that whisperest out of the dust', the church will be restored and those who were not learned will know the truth and the word while the learned will not understand because of their spiritual blindness (Verse 10) Verse 15 also speaks of the reason why those who are wise don't understand is because they never seek out and ask the Lord for awnsers, while the meek or unlearned are willing to pray and ask for awnsers. This is why Joseph Smith had the first vision, because he felt prompted to ask the Lord 'Which church is true' Btw thanks for bringing up verse ten I totally forgot to include it Hope this helps!

[@jetcitysinatra7300]

@@strattino I am just curious what you would do if JESUS was to stand before you right now and say that he loves you and wants you to know that the Book of Mormon is false teaching? I am not saying that it is I am just asking you to ask yourself how you would handle finding out that everything you hold dear was a lie? I am not saying it is but if you found out that it is what would you do?

[@all4jesus594]

No. A stone with 3 letters on it is not evidence... lol.

[@tebwebwetionatan9701]

They will eventually come up with a good answer.

[@brettmajeske3525]

I think you are misunderstanding the difference between evidence and absolute proof, this video does present evidence, you are free to decide it is insufficient. In a murder trial both sides present evidence, and the jury decides if enough evidence to convict was presented. Three letters may not be enough by themselves, but that doesn't mean they don't count for anything.

[@lootingiv4058]

being darkened in their understanding, excluded from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart; Ephesians 4:18. God is looking for you. pray for the truth in the book of mormon after reading it and you will find the truth in it. but dont be like the people of that verse i shared

[@bagnasbayabas]

Tapir is the official horse of the lamanites.

[@henochparks]

there were horses in North America before the Europeans arrived.

[@bagnasbayabas]

@@henochparks there were only wagons and horseshoes, but horses, no.

[@henochparks]

@@bagnasbayabas best do some research horses were found 1000 years age in North America.

[@bagnasbayabas]

@@henochparks Wikipedia- Horses in America The causes of this extinction have been debated. Given the suddenness of the event and because these mammals had been flourishing for millions of years previously, something unusual must have happened. The first main hypothesis attributes extinction to climate change. For example, in Alaska, beginning approximately 12,500 years ago, the grasses characteristic of a steppe ecosystem gave way to shrub tundra, which was covered with unpalatable plants.[13][14] However, it has also been proposed that the steppe-tundra vegetation transition in Beringia may have been a consequence, rather than a cause, of the extinction of megafaunal grazers.[15] The other hypothesis suggests extinction was linked to overexploitation of native prey by newly arrived humans. The extinctions were roughly simultaneous with the end of the most recent glacial advance and the appearance of the big game-hunting Clovis culture.[16][17] Several studies have indicated humans probably arrived in Alaska at the same time or shortly before the local extinction of horses.[17][18][19] Horses returned to the Americas thousands of years later, well after domestication of the horse, beginning with Christopher Columbus in 1493. These were Iberian horses first brought to Hispaniola and later to Panama, Mexico, Brazil, Peru, Argentina, and, in 1538, Florida.[20] The first horses to return to the main continent were 16 specifically identified horses brought by Hernán Cortés in 1519. Subsequent explorers, such as Coronado and De Soto brought ever-larger numbers, some from Spain and others from breeding establishments set up by the Spanish in the Caribbean.[21] These domesticated horses were the ancestral stock of the group of breeds or strains known today as the Colonial Spanish Horse.

[@bagnasbayabas]

@@henochparks your source is probably from mormon apologists. You know they will do everything just to save the church. They are being paid for it.

[@henochparks]

If you read the Book of Mormon in Hebrew it is clearer because it was the original language.

[@cybernoid001]

it was written in modified Egyptian according to the authors.

[@henochparks]

@@cybernoid001 it is written (Alphabet) in reformed Egyptian . The language is Hebrew.The Hebrew alphabet by the way is in fact reformed Egyptian. But no one knew that in Joseph Smith's day. So how did he know?

[@Luke-vg7ut]

@@henochparks Hebrew and Egyptian are two distinct languages from two different language families. Hebrew is part of the Semitic language family, which also includes Arabic and Amharic, among other languages. Egyptian, on the other hand, belongs to the Afro-Asiatic language family and was written in hieroglyphic, hieratic, and demotic scripts.

[@henochparks]

@@Luke-vg7ut The first known Hebrew alphabet is called Paleo Hebrew. It was constructed by Reforming Egyptian Hieroglyphics to form letters and using Hebrew phonetics. Just like the Book of Mormon reports. The discovery that the Paleo Hebrew alphabet (some times called Proto Canaanite or Proto Sinaitic ) . was Reformed Egyptian was not made until the 20th century. It is now believed this Reforming was done about 1850-1800 during the late 12th Dynasty during the rein of Amenenet Iii. Egyptologists Dr. Flinders Petrie, Father of modern Egyptology, Dr. Alan Gardiner. Who wrote a dictionary of Ancient Egyptian. The Father of Biblical Archeology Dr. William F. Albright , Current Yale Egyptologist Dr. John Darnell; are just a few who have written on this topic. I suspect that Abraham lived during the rein of Amenenhet III . Curiously this would support the belief of many Jewish Rabbis that Abraham created the Hebrew Alphabet with the instruction from God.

[@devincrews4187]

@@henochparkswait are you arguing for or against im lost 😭

[@tuckerlundquist8311]

Just one sliver to prove that the whole book is true? I mean you didn’t even explain the importance of this fact even though it seems a bit stretched out to me watching this did not prove anything to me

[@jimmynolet3752]

The King James Bible had a Concordance and Interlinear as well as many resources available just because joseph smith has something like a bible word in his fantasy book of mormon is no surprize he was writing word for word in certain sections to begin with king james into the book of mormon.

[@teddtarr]

"I like your Christ" "I don't like your Christians" "Your Christians are not Christ-like" Mohandas Mahatma Gandhi

[@SnoopyDaniels]

This is the same Ghandi who was a racist and slept with his nieces to test his commitment to celibacy.

[@saldomino1639]

Great Video !

[@Bookofmormoncentralofficial]

Glad you enjoyed it