Evil Superman Needs To Die

[@goober8662]

My favorite thing about Superman is what he reveals about those around him. People struggle and doubt that good can exist. Lex is even cynical of Superman. Others see Superman's goodness and try to exploit it. But others believe and look to him, especially in their most dire circumstances. He IS hope.

[@BrundleClown]

Simple, yet brilliantly put! Couln't explain it better.

[@SC-CEO]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@umjammerlammy9993]

I think a hatred for the idea of Superman stems so much from that. Why would someone with so much power and no restrictions want to use that power to help others? Whats he really hiding? How do we know he's not evil? Is it really that hard to believe that that's not some nigh-omnipotent ruler flying above, but a fellow man who's biggest concerns are saving cats from trees? Helping an old woman cross the street? Jumping in front of a bullet for someone, not to assert power, but simply because he's scared someone else could have been hurt? Is it so hard to believe someone could have the unmatched power of a god and still be a wonderful person?

[@jimjo8541]

Evil Superman is a boring trope now and I’m glad we’re getting a new Superman movie where he’s back to being the good, hopeful guy. I even reject the versions of him that would turn after, say, Lois Lane is murdered. He wouldn’t turn into a bad guy if someone was killed. Superman is more emotionally stable than ANY of us. They think he’s only physically strong? Yes, it would wreck him, but he already knows he’s going to outlive everyone he loves.

[@CharlesH-t9r]

Kingdom Come Superman was an accurate portrayal of what Clark would do if Lois was killed by the joker He lost the will to be Superman and felt the world didn't need him and went back to his parent's farm and worked the fields and lived a modest life Similar to what Tom's Clark did in Crisis on infinite earths

[@ItsChevnotJeff]

​@@CharlesH-t9r For real, I feel like they tried to shoe horn in Wonder Woman being an instigator to the whole Injustice timeline and still fumbled

[@kusihari1425]

LOL

[@alexandredesouza3692]

Homelander does have a character arc. Season by season, he increasingly begins to realize that what he wants isn't fame and adoration while occasionally disregarding human life, but the total subjugation of the human race. A belief fostered by his treatment by Vought, whispers by his fascist love interests and his own pathetic loneliness.

[@peacetheory5544]

The opposite of “striving for a better tomorrow “ would be “obsessing about an irrelevant past”

[@theoneman2084]

I like this notion. I've seen alot of people obsess over their own pasts but alot of it doesn't matter anymore.

[@motor4X4kombat]

me: oh you mean fasci... you: shhhh you wanna get baned?

[@umjammerlammy9993]

"Vengeance won't change the past, mine or anyone else's."

[@vee-bee-a]

​@@motor4X4kombat What's Bane got to do with this?

[@chrisreed6191]

I needed that

[@jacklawsen6390]

It's called demoralization, and it's being imposed on many fronts. People won't give up their freedoms to tyrants if they're hopeful, healthy, and able to prosper.

[@GuilhermeOliveira-qh8wf]

The problem with superman nowadays is that they know how to write him in only 2 ways, it's either too naive and stupid or straight evil and heartless. Primarily example of this is in Suicide Squad game, he is the reason to be reckless, and then evil.

[@harrypothead42024]

I have never been interested in Captain America or Superman doing bad guy stories.

[@JBTriple8]

neither have why Im glad John Walker is part of the Mercenary the Group The Thunderbolts and not in Brave New World.

[@sanderzphillips]

I'm fine with it as long as the "evil" version of the character in question isn't ACTUALLY the character in question. I.E Ultraman, Omniman, Homelander, John Walker, etc. I find it somewhat offensive otherwise. Injustice Superman was supposed to be a one-off, but it got so popular that everyone tried capitalizing off of it, reaching far beyond just that one story, which really sucked.

[@CharlesH-t9r]

​​​@@sanderzphillips they don't even comprehend that it's not even the true Superman it's a alternate version of him from another earth That shows most of who want that...didn't even read the comic series Plus that same Superman was corrupted by fear toxin that was still in his system long after it affected his mind

[@shoryuguten]

I think we did get a proper Superman, Tyler Hoechlin's portrayal was great.

[@JakNasty69]

I loved Tyler as Superman he really grew on me but I'm glad he his time to shine, and you never know he might come back for a multiverse thing, or maybe James Gunn will find something to do for him but even if not I'm glad he was Superman

[@SynthMusicWorld]

Yes we did. I just posted a comment to that effect. He was everything that LoreViathan was saying we needed IN Superman. It was weird that he glossed him over in the space of a minute or two.

[@JBTriple8]

and we are likely with Gunns as well an Addition to Christopher Reeve

[@norbis3939]

I agree, the portrayal of Superman was great, but the show itself was just ok.

[@TheStrangeVisitor]

Exactly. Lol. Not only Superman and Lois but My Adventures with Superman. I don't know why both of those widely beloved series are being forgotten all of a sudden.

[@SirsasthNigam.]

Plutonian was written by Superman writers answering What if Superman had no Clark Kent? Omni Man - What If Superman had evil conquerer father ? Homelander- What if Supe was created and raised in company lab by Scientists, unable to become the hero he ever wanted to be? Superman has WAY different backstory than any of these OSP-He tries to save everyone even if he can't

[@samjudge1240]

I agree, this "evil Superman" trend is just that, a trend, eventually you will see Superman, or another hero that is inspired to superman. as for I, I myself try to make one, even when it takes time.

[@PhelesDragon]

There is a fringe benefit to all these evil Superman knockoffs: they put in stark light what makes the genuine article special.

[@darrenbent7601]

I totally agree with you. We all need hope in this ever-growing dystopian nightmare we are now living in.

[@RedMoonLoop]

You hit the nail on the head when you said something is wrong with our culture. Its true we live in a culture where all the people with power have shown to be corrupt or at best willing to turn a blind eye to corruption. Until we can address this culturally a character like superman played straight will come off as naive or even propaganda. Heroes and myths are reflections of the culture they live in.

[@kar1r1guzo0ra7]

Thats why I like Superman. He shows how this kind of power should be used.

[@RedMoonLoop]

@kar1r1guzo0ra7 I can agree that maybe a message of hope is needed during these times but it's hard to do without coming off as preachy or naive. I have faith in Gunn to tell a good story, I don't have faith in the general audience to receive that story well.

[@slammermchammer]

For sure perfectly put imo

[@UnderworldNox]

Corny

[@Selerowiak]

​@@UnderworldNox your nick is litealry "troll".

[@nont18411]

The best depiction of Superman in the modern era is HISHE Superman because somehow one KZbin channel understands the core value of Superman more than big studios. Superman is just a chill guy who likes to save people. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[@rileyscheller7739]

Superman and Lois, its not a big studio but it was the best modern depiction before that series ended.

[@DamXOien3902]

@@rileyscheller7739best depiction is a stretch 😂 Tyler from Superman and Lois is the best depiction we have so far, hopefully David Corensweat takes this title after Superman

[@rileyscheller7739]

It really isn’t though. He’s had four seasons of a great live action show. At the very least it would be best live action Superman of the 2000’s so far. As for David, yea it’s very promising but one movie doesn’t really compare to 53, 40 minute episodes, so I’m sure he will take the title at some point it won’t be right away at least to those who saw SM&L.

[@mantraki]

@@DamXOien3902 I mean, if you take into consideration the other adaptions it is the best

[@malcolmtaylor4922]

Great vid, but I feel like Omni man is more of a saiyan in sheep’s clothing than a dark superman trope

[@oppenheimer6321]

We literaly gonna have a evil Superman clone in the Superman movie

[@mydreaminorbit9297]

Which the true hopeful Superman will defeat for good.

[@lightdarksoul2097]

Bizzaro?

[@CharlesH-t9r]

​@@lightdarksoul2097 Ultraman

[@lightdarksoul2097]

@@CharlesH-t9r isn't he like a different universe version

[@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX]

The way Snyder fans have been reacting and treating the new Superman on the internet with so much negativity and hatred has really shown everyone how little they understand the character.

[@AlvinFlang69420]

Like how you lot have done since even before his movies came out?

[@bossmine3997]

The Irony of that comment

[@dc7981]

@@AlvinFlang69420 lol snyder fans acting like posers again. Remember when yall claimed Batma killing was just a normal thing when in reality that was something golden age batman did for like 10 issues max?

[@master-of-mind5881]

Just because you don’t like man of steel or synder’s take on the character doesn’t mean you understand the character.

[@The_Kaiju-X_Project]

Turn about is fairplay. We've dealt with it since 2013. It's yalls turn. But you all started this back then when we were just trying to enjoy the new DCU. And did it so hatefully and trolly that it ACTUALLY got rebooted out of sheer fear mongering. What, we're just supposed to be cool with our DCU being ripped away because of loud mouthed Snyder haters wouldnt shutup for over a decade? Nah dog. To quote Will Smith's Agent J, "Don't start nothin', there won't be nothin'" and yall started this a long time ago

[@my_earbuds8897]

Snyder Fan: Nuh Uh, I need my Superman Apathetic as hell, dark and gloomy.

[@davidostapenko2578]

Gunn Fanboy: Yuh-uh, we need our superhero to once again look like a complete clown with these goofy underpants.

[@spasebar]

Snyder fans: "noo Superman needs to be dark and gloomy he can't wear bright colors and have a cute puppy 😡😡😡" They're literally Lex Luthor 😂

[@anonymous_5016]

You're confusing the gloomy aspects of a story with the character of Synder's Superman. Just because he wasn't smiling all the time doesn't mean he was dark and gloomy.

[@Ues2DC]

@@davidostapenko2578It’s a good thing most people dislike the Snyderverse and we’ve moved on. And there is nothing you can do about it but cry 🙂

[@fenrirsrage4609]

@@davidostapenko2578 The fact that the goofy underpants means Superman is a clown says everything about you lmao

[@rcayemitte88]

Homelander having no character growth is a gross misinterpretation of the show. He has grown just not in good ways, and he has changed but not for the better. His is a decent. Not every character “grows” some times the character ark is a tragedy

[@superafrikanmedialabs8237]

Correct

[@superafrikanmedialabs8237]

THATS CORRECT, It's called a negative character arc!!!!!

[@Macapta]

4:25 Hearing Batman say "Well, it had to be done" after Superman kills Lex is wild. I think most modern depictions of Bruce as well as the fandom would reject it even as a possibility. That alternate universe was meant to show Clark being more willing to cross lines but it's way more telling about that alternate Bruce.

[@TheMule47]

well said. we need a Superman who isn't afraid to be Superman, who inspires us to be brave and kind and help others.

[@Trulytainmentviews]

Hey man, I can't agree with you more. I don't know how long I have been saying, Superman represents hope and a dark and emo Superman can work as long as you have the real Superman to balance said movie, TV show or across any medium. Subscribed and liked. Keep up the good work. Keep hope alive.

[@TheSwordfish009]

What emo Superman has been displayed on live action film?

[@Trulytainmentviews]

@TheSwordfish009 LOL, it was an idea someone brought up to me during a discussion based on Henry Cavill's version of the character, offline of course 🤣.

[@petermj1098]

No Superman is a leader and a friend. Christopher Reeve is the only live action Superman who is a leader people want to follow and a friend people want to talk to. Other live action Superman are not leaders and not as friendly as Reeve’s version.

[@avrivah1101]

Would that it were just Superman. There has been a concerted effort in our culture to demonize established heroes and humanize villains for over a decade. This is a dialectical inversion, engineered to render the distinctions between good and evil meaningless. That creators have not stopped using this narrative device, in spite of widespread fan backlash and declining sales, reflects a broader, more sinister motivation.

[@JabneyTheKing]

This right here is the root of it I agree wholeheartedly

[@Ues2DC]

The Acolyte was a perfect example of this.

[@haydentcem]

@@Ues2DCno, the Acolyte was about nuance

[@KrazyStargazer]

As a mellenial, I was old enough to see people want more edgy charecters. The Nolan films, and early 2000's were much more pessimistic than the 90's. I think by the 2010s the US become more hopeful. The 2020s seem to have wrapped back around. I think you can have sympathetic villians and truly good charecters. The best kind of stories are when you understand each POV so well it's agonizing to see them fight. But sometimes you do just wanna see the good guy just win or the bad guy just unambiguous.

[@Ues2DC]

@@haydentcemNo

[@swagathan5]

I think you hit the nail on the head on our society's need for positivity in media! I think that's great.

[@LordCullBot]

I really can't wait for the new movie to come out I hope it's good. I really want them to continue "My Adventures with Superman"

[@Braydostrescuatro]

I completely agree with the sentiment but an overused trope doesn't diminish the quality that certain evil supermen characters have as characters. Yes it can get boring to watch homelander do crazy things over and over but to say his character doesn't go anywhere is just plain wrong and is evident to anybody who watched the show

[@MultiSimonchan]

15:33 i almost though she was going to say "Kal El no",but then i remenbered this is the good justice league one.

[@Launchpad05]

It's easy to see why people would reject A character like Superman after so may years of stories with flawed characters that are more relatable than characters that they see as 'overpowered'. Resulting in the misconception that Superman is 'boring', but after 'Man Of Steel' divided fans, it ignited some much needed debate on wether we're dragging the character down to our level A little too much. Even since Alan Moore's 'Watchmen', the superhero archetype has been deconstructed, but the more you deconstruct heroes, they cease to remain heroes. Shazam even points this out when he tells The Justice League that 'they're no longer heroes anymore'. There's nothing wrong with exploring the idea A corrupt Superman with characters like Omni Man, or Homelander, but if that's the only kind of 'Superman' we're getting, and not see the real Superman as A counter balance, then our culture need to reevaluate why we need A character like Supermen. Especially with the way things are in the world right now.

[@arkknight8405]

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[@ofidiotabagista5259]

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[@BengaliMartyMcfly]

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[@KrunkyTown]

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[@mygetawayart]

the way I and many others interpret the "...and the American Way" part of the slogan is completely incompatible with our post-modern sensibility, because "...and the American Way" is about being the most powerful entity, whether person or country, in the world and refraining from using that power to conquer it, wanting to help it prosper, nursing it, helping it strive for a better tomorrow, for all rather than some, and frankly, unless you just woke up from an 80 year slumber, it's just not how we look at America anymore. For that reason, "...and a better tomorrow" is a much less hypocritical statement, because regardless of what America does or represents now, Superman will always stand for a better tomorrow.

[@stray_cat2922]

You are absolutely correct, we all need hope!

[@LittleBull196]

Its time for hope!

[@bluetarantulaproductions6179]

I don't think Superman is going to be fighting a evil counterpart of himself in this new movie, I think he's going to be taking on both Lex Luthor and Brainiac.

[@wv5853]

Omni man feels much more like a sympathetic version of Zod than an evil Superman to me, Mark feels a lot more like Spider-Man with Superman’s powers.

[@haydentcem]

The only evil Supermen that should exist from here on out should be alternate versions officially made by DC

[@Billpro25]

I think Homelander doesn't quite deserve the mantle of Evil Superman. He has evolved into something I deem much worse than a mere knockoff into the american public conciousness - He has become the NEW Superman.

[@Christian_H3rnand3z]

*I know exactly what you mean.* I don't know if a real Superman movie could effect the positivity of the world but the world has been clearly showing how messed up it is for the pass couple years already. I'm tired of people praising the idea of an evil Superman type character, putting them in "Sigma" edits, or saying that they'll be more like Homelander if they got Superman's powers in real life. I'm tired of that. Me, if I had Superman's powers, I'd end the Russia and Ukraine war, take all the pollution out of the water, take all the space junk from our orbit, and do something about the California fire right now!!!! Ironically, Warner Bros. over dependency on Batman has made me have Batman lower on my personal hero meter and the popularity of evil and fake Supermen have put Superman up in my same meter. You don't know what you have until it's gone I guess. *I am so hyped for the upcoming Superman movie and I think it's poetic that he's going to fight an evil Superman clone in the movie, Ultraman.*

[@Hellbat69]

Lmfao

[@kingcyrusthegreat3887]

Omni Man and the story of Invincible to me feels like a celebration of Superman just a different twist if you read thru the whole series. Even the character of Robot IE Rex is very much Lex Luthor from the silver age homage especially if you read him down the line in Invincible.

[@PiperAtDawn-r7i]

Yeah invincible is the story of what if clark kent had a dick for a dad. Mark is superman not nolan but even then that is a bit reductive

[@amarcellus1714]

Growing up with Chris Reeve Superman, The Adventures of Superman and Lois, the DC Animated Universe and Smallville was a great time.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

So does depressed Superman. Give me a Superman that smiles.

[@steverambo4692]

Man of steel is old enough to be people’s childhood movie and those people are already mad about this new Superman

[@JBTriple8]

the Superman 25 Trailer gave me no impilication of Evil Superman.

[@Nero-Caesar]

Wow only 133 subs and your content is amazing thank you

[@Koutzin]

The opposite of the "rural" American way is the "urban" American way, which loves to overpower others, destroying what once existed, including its own people.

[@CitanulsPumpkin]

"Urban" Americans don't routinely vote for politicians and policies that were initially brainstormed by nazi Germany.

[@wayside5182]

Nah you speaking facts everything is cynical and pessimistic not just “Superman” everything is without hope

[@kommandantgalileo]

Red Son Superman isn't even an evil superman, he still stands for what's right, for the betterment of people.

[@youtubecreators384]

Deadpool: Yes! Yes! Let this man cook!

[@ronselporter4739]

People who make Evil Superman *Insert rest of title here*

[@terranman4702]

Edgelord

[@ronselporter4739]

@@terranman4702 that is the dark multiverse

[@slammermchammer]

Wholesome Superman fans wishing death is very on brand for the over done boy scout

[@ronselporter4739]

@@slammermchammer Underdone, now is Batman's era

[@jessewright8930]

The way the Justice league looked in horror is beyond me 😂

[@THEEHomelander]

The thumbnail is fckin beautiful

[@rogerelliss9829]

As far as I'm concerned, the last two real superman adaptations were cw and smallville. Smallville isn't recent at all, and both are cws.

[@DavidNicholson101]

A better clip to show at this point of the video is Superman fixing to whip Lex after telling him he’s done with Lex tormenting the people in Clark’s life. 11:50

[@QweepQweep]

I agree with you completely but I do think homelander in the show is a very compelling character in his own right

[@tmac731]

We have never had an evil Superman, Warner brothers stopped it before we could get the full story. Omniman Homelander etc aren’t Superman type characters they just have similar powers

[@DerekChase-m3e]

Homelander does have an arc. He starts as a corporate stooge for Vought then steps out from their control to become a dictator himself. He starts only doing horrible things in private but by season 3 he just doesn’t care anymore and wants people to fear him and love him.

[@ues929]

Omni man is Vegeta pretending to be Superman and he hates pretending

[@DoctorInk20]

I'm so glad more people are behind this idea of getting Superman (and DC in general) back to a more positive place. My philosophy on the issue is simple: _You cannot subvert Superman because he already exists as a subversion of expectations._ A man is given tremendous power and we expect his first instinct to be to abuse it. Instead, Siegel and Shuster flipped that and made him an upstanding person who strives to do the right thing no matter what. We've had many millennia-worth of stories told about those who misuse their strength for their own glory and ego, so why invert the standout to be just like everyone else? It's not as creative as people think it actually is.

[@feelgoodink5005]

One more season with homeland and I’m good.

[@kerravon4159]

It was interesting for a while, but yeah, evil Superman has now been done to death and beyond.

[@Byrdstar6423-un3me]

I curse the day Injustice was made and The Boys TV Show became a thing, good lord the damage to not just Superman, but comic book and hero media in general BLOWS to this day

[@sharkanenoa5928]

I want to believe a man can fly again

[@chickenman-kf5qs]

The only good ones were Omni-Man and Homelander, those were truly the cream of the crop in terms of anti-Supermen, as for Brightburn, it's interesting, not great nor bad, it's fine.

[@marcussantos188]

I didn’t get into Superman till I was 17 (21 now) and it started watching Smallville with my dad. Because I used to be one of those people who thought he was boring and overpowered. Since then, I watched other Superman stuff and started reading some comics. I’m about to start All-Star Superman. Behind all that god like power Supes is a chill guy and just as human as us.

[@randynguyen9778]

People want a serious Superman not a rehash of the old we want some who we can take seriously. Zack Snyder got that.

[@OmarRodriguez-pj3qy]

Gotta say, I love that scene right at the start of the video. “Faster than a speeding bullet. More powerful than a locomotive”. I’m not against Superman being able to bench press a planet, but I do believe I can enjoy his powers more if they were more… measurable. Ironic to say this considering he’s literally an alien but… down to earth lol. In my opinion, those are excellent comparisons to make to show off Superman’s powers because he’s still too powerful to be reckless and must restrain himself for the sake of others but powerful enough to save lives in all the ways he does. The big iconic thing about Superman in the cover of his FIRST APPEARANCE was being able to lift a car over his head. I feel like that level of strength is as strong as he needs to be. Of course stopping a plane too which is much heavier. Hope that makes sense. Also this me think of the issues I’ve heard of modern Spider-Man and how writers don’t let him have good things in life. That to be a good influence is to constantly sacrifice, lose and suffer with it hardly being worth it. Across the Spider-Verse is such a meta commentary on that too. That to be good, sacrifices will be made, no good deed goes unpunished. But honestly, I would love to see a story thay focuses on seeing first hand Spider-Man reaping what he sows. To see for certain that all his efforts trying to be a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man finally encourages New York to truly be better, more friendly and positive. Something perhaps more than the city just still standing in one piece or two. Of course just saving lives will always, ALWAYS be worth it. But perhaps seeing a positive influence in people’s hearts would be really nice to see.

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

I mean Homelander is just riding the charm and screen presence of Anthony Starr at this point, but yeah he’s a one trick pony. Also the general obsession with ‘hero tropes through an evil lens’ has gotten kinda ‘meh’. What I did like about omniman and Invincible is his Son was, even if he failed, trying to be a hero in the right ways. (I have only seen season 1) if you are gonna invert the vision of idealic superheros at least get a more internal about it. Which I think Invincible did well. Brightburn just did the whole ‘born evil’ thing in a way and I only forgive it cause it intended to make a horror movie.

[@attlue]

This was a well thought out video, great work and thanks!

[@remuslazar2033]

I am sick and tired of the evil Superman. It was fub at first, but now I wamt my real Superman please

[@SynthMusicWorld]

This was an odd essay to watch, because you bemoan a lack of a Superman who brings hope but then you dismiss Superman and Lois as a "CW show" and say it's "fine." Which leads me to the conclusion that you haven't watched much of it, and certainly didn't watch the final season or the series finale, which was all about the subject of hope. From the moment of his introduction in "Supergirl," Tyler Hoechlin's portrayal of Superman was one based on the concept of a Superman who was positive, friendly, and yes...who was a beacon of hope, and goodness, in the world.

[@AlvinFlang69420]

He is not a Superman fan. He is a Warner Bros. Fan.

[@steampunckairship]

Man it's a shame I only heard about that show after the new trailer came out because I really want to see it and I don't have Max.

[@vee-bee-a]

Just hope to god that Hollyweird doesn't get their greedy hands on Doc Savage.

[@alexandredesouza3692]

1:35 The Justice League reacting to Homelander is funnier than I expected.

[@Trencher1375]

The starving man is glad for some crumbs

[@TheUnseenPath]

Oh, man killing Lex Luthor. It’s not evil on the contrary Batman is right it had to be done. Superman was more heroic fair that he has been through the entire series because some people need to be put down. Lex Luthor was right.

[@efxnews4776]

Evil Clark Kent yes, i'm against that... Evil Superman? Not so much, People love Homelander, Omniman, Brightburn... In fact i think world needs MORE Brightburn. Homelander is too tame and weak and Omniman is just former space nazi that loves too much his family. Even Beighburn has a weakness, in wich he is brain washed by his ship... You know what? We need all kinds of Superman types. For example the recent comics of the Phoenix (from the X-Men) feels a lot like Superman (in a good way), but Jean Grey is different from Superman, while Superman is striving for a better tomorrow, the Phoenix (Jean Grey) is after redemption, neither Jean or Clark are evil people, but Jean different from Clark KNOWS too well the consequences of turn to the dark side, the amount of pain and death she can do if she gave up her humanity. In some ways, this idea of an evil Superman actually started with the Dark Phoenix... At least it is one of the most famous comic books where a hero turns evil and end in tragedy.

[@TheStrangeVisitor]

The heck you talking about? Superman and Lois had a fantastic run made people asking for more. My Adventures with Superman already has garnered plenty of praises through dc fans and beyond. Both of these shows have kept Superman name afloat and clean after DCEU debacle.

[@Thedarkknight27474]

I literally watched Richard donners superman the movie and LOVED it it’s an amazing movie

[@charliebrownie4158]

Christopher Reeves was aces as both Clark Kent and Superman. Something not to easy. Part of the magic was Richard Donner completely knowing the character of both it's not something easy to translate onto the screen. What an amazing film so many amazing talents between Mario Puzo of Godfather fame and John Williams to bring everything together.

[@anakinskywalker2142]

People who hate america write an iconic hero that represents the nation as a villain.

[@darthvirgin7157]

delusional and IMMORAL MORE-ons ignore history.

[@billbill6576]

The population is over all the subversion.

[@PhelesDragon]

I am really hoping that the inclusion of all the other heroes in the new Superman is a building on previous versions of the character. Lemme explain: Superman has always intended to be a beacon, an icon of hope for the Everyman, the populace. My hope is that the heroes in this new universe are as flawed and politically motivated and squabbling as they are in the comics, and that Superman isn’t just trying to be a symbol for everyday people, but the existing “heroes” as well. He’s trying to set a standard for what a super powered hero should be. Please let me be right…

[@wesleycolvin7158]

The interesting thing about Homelander and The Boys is that they were meant to be satire, but the producers of the show decided to ignore the series' original premise. The new Superman seems to be leaning more back into the optimistic hero.

[@filmandpage1138]

Good video, you got a new sub.

[@THEINFINITIVERSESAGA]

4:33 Damn that face is the most terrified and shocked personified look I’ve ever seen in animation

[@deezidibbs9796]

Now we need more evil Goku

[@Unknown-unclear]

'Evil Superman' is older than regular Superman: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Reign_of_the_Superman That's a story by the original creators of Superman, about what happens when a person gets powers. That person, y'know, isn't a very nice guy. The inspiration for it is pretty obvious. ... But I am not using that as a reason to say it should keep happening. Superman, the Superman we know, was a follow-up. People act like the creators of the character didn't realize that, yes, limitless power could make people into monsters. But they did. 'What if he was EVIL!?!' isn't a clever subversion. The original creators already knew that, yes, that's the likely result. Power corrupts. Being more powerful than other people can make someone think he's BETTER than other people, and can do whatever he likes. They already WROTE that story, themselves. They wrote it first, before they wrote the famous one. They wrote an evil Superman, and then they went on to say, 'But what if there was a guy who was better than that?' That's the key to Superman. The red and blue Superman we know. He wasn't the first 'imagine if a human was SUPERhuman!' character. Even 'The Superman' from that story wasn't the first. The powers aren't the core of the character. Being a good person despite those powers is the big idea. All of these versions where a character is like Superman but a total monster aren't taking the idea further, or doing a more realistic take. C'mon, so long as he's bulletproof and more powerful than a locomotive, you're telling a modern fairy tale, not a true to life story. You didn't make it realistic, you just made it pessimistic and that's not the same. Really, you are a step behind the original creators. Yes. You're not outsmarting these 1930s people from the dawn of comics - you're retreading ground they covered. The comicbook Superman is already a subversion of the original villainous, power-corrupts, destructive style of superman. They knew the point you're trying to make. Then they went a step further and made something optimistic and uplifting, despite it.

[@Angellisable]

Thank you for the positivity and for the reminder, I just liked and subscribed

[@Ecto_Eric]

Great video ❤❤👏👏 & Anthony Starr doesn’t play Homelander he is Homelander

[@Ash-Winchester]

The opposites of the american way are truth, justice, and freedom.

[@killian9314]

6:13 He landed in the Ukrainian SSR. Which just like Kansas, was the Breadbasket of the Soviet Union.

[@LuisPerez-5]

If you can't see anything positive around you, you are not looking hard enough

[@underrated3143]

There are like two evil parody versions of superman. How did the trope got tired so fast?

[@jaieregilmore971]

Superman will always be the starman like from the song. Also I argue Omni Man is more general Zod came to earth as adult and invincible is Superman due to being raise as human.

[@steverambo4692]

Even then omni man is at least complex and has an arc he isn’t just evil for evils sake

[@jaieregilmore971]

@ yeah he more of a soldier loyal to his empire a machine built for conquest but grow a morality.

[@dareka9425]

I've grown weary of epic battles. The one shot, that one act, of the new Superman saving that one kid looks amazing in a deluge of city/planet destroying brawl between godly characters. And lately I have seen a lot of KZbin shorts talking about some of the more positive stories about Superman being the most human of characters. When I was a teen Western comics were rare and a bit expensive where I lived. My constant fictional inspirations in those days were manga and anime like Dragon Ball, Dragon Quest and Full Metal Alchemist. While we also have Batman and Superman Animated series on TV but a physical thing like a manga collection in your hand feels much more close to heart. Several years ago I stumbled upon the popular Dragon Ball Abridged series on KZbin. While I like the channel for it's funny comedic touches deep down I was a bit uncomfortable with the Western deconstruction of the my favourite story. It's not the DBA series itself that bothered me but rather how the fans, through meme culture, would turn the jokes into supposedly new facts or lore. As reader of the original source material I never get the sense that Goku was a horrible father but then fans of DBA and other channels start to parrot those jokes as some sort of newly-discovered hidden lore.

[@Sully-g7g]

12:26 yeah bro i feel ya, endless cycle of despair. U should check out Buddhism, not trying to spread religion, but thats whats cool about Buddhism, u could do it as religion or not as one, its just a way of thinking really. Not a cure too that cycle, but the peace that comes with its realizing its an illusion thats real at the same time, like all things.

[@Brotherofthe4thCompany]

One of my favorite comics that I’ve read recently was Action Comics # 775. Titled “What’s So Funny About Truth, Justice and the American Way?,” the comic was more or less a rejection of modern superheroes with dubious or grey moral character. This is exemplified by the antagonists of the comic, The Elite. Superman fights them and after it seems like they won. Superman comes in seemingly picking them off, one by one. Until their leader, Manchester Black is left. And Superman reveals that he had planned out this scenario, to make it seem like hit lowered himself to The Elite’s level. It’s revealed that he did incapacitate them. And that they would be promptly thrown in prison. Black retaliates saying that he would swear revenge on Superman and that he’s “living in a dream world.” Then we get one of Superman’s best moments where he tells Chester, “You know what Black, I wouldn’t have it any other way. Dreams save us. Dreams lift us up and transform us. And on my soul, I swear that until my of dignity, honor, and justice are the reality we all share - I’ll never stop fighting. Ever.” This comic made me reflect on my own thoughts about Superman and realize that I’ve done what Warner Bros have been doing undervaluing Superman. I hope that we can get Superman as he’s meant to be. An aspirational hero even the heroes of the DC Universe look up to and respect. A hero that people can see and try emulate. A hero that shows that compassion isn’t weakness and that every life is worth fighting for.

[@kenji6492]

I think an excellent Evil Superman who people don’t discuss enough is Bardock. He, like Omniman, is a conquerer and a monster, but he’s not the strongest and he’s not elite. He’s a grunt soldier working under a hegemonic king and a tyrannical emperor. He works an unfulfilling dayjob of slaughter and violence and he expects nothing more or better out of life. It’s when he comes to believe in something, in fighting for a cause other than his employers’ betterment, that he loses everything - the respect of his peers, what’s left of his social standing, his infant son. But he still tries and fails, dying in an attempt to so something meaningful.

[@harlannguyen4048]

Of course, that's the OVA version of Bardock.

[@kenji6492]

@ Yea but it’s the one most people prefer and think of first, so I went with him.

[@DavidNicholson101]

Somebody put that song Star Man over the trailer for Superman. Watching that just pushed me over the moon☺️.

[@rhyslightning3037]

It was the same with Optimus Prime. Michael Bay turned him into a murder hungry Psychopath, when hes supposed to be a hopeful and optimistic leader who only kills when he needs to and most certainly doesnt kill humans.

[@ericm.8110]

Bonecrusher: Killed innocent people and attacked Optimus. Demolisher: Killed innocent people and had fun doing it. Grindor: Tried to kill Optimus. The Fallen: Tried to do mass genocide. Shockwave: Was a thread and hard to kill. The other DOTM Decepticons: Just watch the Chicago scene Megatron: Started the war on Cybertron, killed a lot of innocent people, tried a mass genocide with the Fallen, killed Jazz, killed Optimus, wanted to enslave earth, and he was still pure evil after he became Galvatron. Sentinel: He betrayed the Autobots, killed Ironhide, gave the order to bombard Chicago, wanted to enslave earth and wanted to kill Optimus, who tried to reason with Sentinel one last time. Attinger: He hunted down a lot of Cybertronians with Lockdown and he tried to kill Cade. Lockdown: He killed a lot of Cybertronians and innocent people. And ge also tried to kill Cade. Infernocus: The same with Shockwave. But Prime is the psychopath. 🙄

[@gontse1386]

​@ericm.8110 these guys want heroes to beg villains to stop being bad

[@harlannguyen4048]

Superman is a superhero. Optimus Prime is a soldier at the end of the day. That's the difference.

[@rhyslightning3037]

@ yes but even soldiers have a code. You are not allowed to kill unarmed prisoners or people who are surrendering. And Peter cullen based the character on his brother who told him to “be a real hero”.

[@ericm.8110]

​@@rhyslightning3037, What was he supposed to do? Spare the Decepticons? I would like to mention that other versions of Optimus also killed. And G1 and Prime Optimus were even ready to kill their Megatron who was unarmed.

[@Seegagem]

Just glad we have batman

[@sirflapfla97]

Omni man is not an evil superman, especially after his redemption