The Human Ape ~ Origins of the Genus Homo - with TRENTON HOLLIDAY

[@blandp11]

Wow. Great stuff. The tangled web makes it really not surprising in hind site that something "recent" like Homo naledi or Homo floresiensis should exist.

[@derekallen4568]

Check my avatar. I'm with my granddaughter in the cradle of human kind, where naledi was discovered.

[@GS-nx2iq]

Humbling isn't it?

[@ALavin-en1kr]

More speculative nonsense. The higher age perspective was fourteen versions of the human to a uniquely human prototype in a universal cycle. Humanity did not originate in a different prototype it had its own prototype.

[@drips1030]

* hindsight. Sorry!!!

[@martelinaalmissa39]

Great stuff😂😅😢... Ridiculos and only simple minded people can digest this bs Satanic Propaganda that we came from monkeys... God created us and everything around us... Thimgs and teorys toled as a fact are bunch of lies to hide real powerfull truth... There is only 1 God just like there is only 1 truth ❤

[@dijuvingtsun]

this is so great! we need more honest scientists like him. Otherwise science will seize to be science! It's not about crafting stories we want to hear... We have to take out politics and narcisism out of science iimho!!!

[@user-wk1mw9nj3i76]

I read his book, “Cro Magnon,” and it’s excellent. I purchased it after seeing your earlier interview. As soon as I saw a new video with Prof. Holliday was out, I clicked and listened. Fascinating! I will watch for the next book.

[@mathildetanghe865]

People forget evolution has no purpose other than survival, big brains is not the end goal

[@adriaan2618]

True, and considering the way we are behaving lately our big brains may prove to be an evolutionary dead end.

@@adriaan2618 every species ends eventually

[@adriaan2618]

Indeed but not many people realize that species go extinct in two different ways: with- or without living descendants.

[@EDPDBZ89]

​@adriaan2618 Right. There's phyletic extinction where a species goes "extinct" because they evolved into one or more species. And then there's terminal extinction, where a species goes extinct without leaving no evolutionary descendants at all i.e. the type of extinction most people think about when they hear "extinction".

[@adriaan2618]

@@EDPDBZ89 How would you categorize Neanderthal extinction? They didn't evolve into another species but they did contribute some of their dna to us, so technically they do have living descendants.

[@daveyoung4708]

I've watched this channel so long ,love the narration,love the open minded projections of available data,thanks

[@TraveisaBlue]

Make a movie Trenton. This is fascinating and so important in understanding how we have evolved as humans. Perhaps that understanding would contribute to tolerance of different peoples.

[@Siralantoon]

Another brilliant show. That just unlocked a number of doors in my brain. I can finally grasp just how diagnostic teeth can be and why they are such prized specimens. Thank you.

[@DreamerBooksAnIceAgeSaga]

Fascinating! Will listen again to make sure I didn't miss anything! Thanks for another great episode!

[@EvolutionSoup]

Awesome, thank you!

[@DreamerBooksAnIceAgeSaga]

@@EvolutionSoup You're welcome! 😊

[@alayneperrott9693]

Great episode. I really like the tangled web concept. As a palaeoclimatologist and having had the privilege of visiting "early man" sites on fieldtrips to East Africa, South Africa and China, it makes a great deal of sense to me given the large Quaternary fluctuations in climate and habitat.

[@anjou6497]

The early history of Africa fascinates me. 🌎😊

[@timmcdraw7568]

This was fantastic. I love the tangled web. It feels like it makes the evolution make much more sense. And really interesting to imagine!

[@Zorglub1966]

Just noticed Mr Holliday's tie!😀

[@xINVISIGOTHx]

what does KNM-ER mean/stand for

[@EvolutionSoup]

Hi-- thanks for watching! I believe KNM stands for Kenya National Museums. The ER possibly refers to erectus (initial finds in the area were originally classified as Homo erectus).

[@TheTamriel]

Thanks for the upload. It's always a pleasure to listen to Prof Holliday. And I just want to add the loss of body hair and the development of sweat glands as possible criteria between the two genera _Australopithecus_ and _Homo_ and their different ecology (woodland/savannah).

[@psicologamarcelacollado5863]

I bought the book and loved it!

[@kurtoogle4576]

Thanks for this! Always great to see Trenton Holliday!

[@EvolutionSoup]

Yes and we definitely hope he can come back again!

[@briancoxacc]

Excellent video. Thank you to both for taking the time to share. Where can I get Prof Holliday’s tie? 👍

[@GrowBagUK]

Inter-specific hybridization definitely seems to be a potential path to major evolutionary changes. Considering the radical and relatively quick changes of the homo genus I think it is fair to assume there is gene mixing between different species driving these changes.

[@HarryHound]

Fascinating

[@aisaved]

Wow!! you just blown me away Professor😍

[@federicoarciniegas5091]

Great episode, thanks and the Professor Excelente, more realistic his idea.

[@arsdelicata]

Great talk! The gene exchange is called admixture by some. It's happened in many close species like the baboons.

[@marilynbodasing9393]

Please keep slides on for longer so we can get a chance to work through the items we are looking at

[@williamwilson6499]

Never heard of pausing the video?

[@oughtssought1198]

the human part of the world (& probably the rest as well) would have a happier time of it if non-scientists had the same devotion to self-doubt that scientists do

self-doubt may be an evolutionary liability

[@oughtssought1198]

and unmerited self-certainty isn't??? self-doubt is an individual liability when surrounded by arrogant fiction addicts offended by realism about evidence, common sense, and learning from experience

[@PeachysMom]

Absolutely agree! You said a mouthful.

[@mudslinger888]

I doubt that.. ok I doubt myself.. actually not sure now..

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Tell that to an arrogant leader with access to ICBMs.

[@hagvaktok]

Nice overview and analysis. It paints a very plausible picture.

[@1Onionpeeler]

The origin of "tangled web" could be from a very old saying: Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. I doubt anyone can legitimately complain about using that phrase.

[@EugenioFilippi]

absolutely brilliant guest!

[@wotsup9oo]

I totally agree with him, gaining and reducing size is a very common adaptaion that takes just a few generations. The genus should be more analised from morphological features, functions and very importantly proportions rather than just size. H. HABILIS is much more human like than Australopithecus like.

[@michaelmoore7975]

When is the earliest times we see grave goods? When is the earliest times pure abstractions can be conveyed?

[@jgarciascr5]

Nice tie. Very appropriate for your work Trenton. 😎

[@whiskeytango9769]

Genus Homo...dependent on stone tools, did the earliest Homo also control fire and have the capability for running long distances? Do these traits separate us from the Australopiths?

[@petergarrone8242]

I would vote habilus in homo. The being's dentition showed it was probably an obligate tool maker, compared to previous Australopithecus. It might have had short legs and made a nest in trees each evening, and did a fair amount of scavenging, but that tool-making seems convincing as the key human development. I know lots of animals can make tools, but they are not obliged to. Just my pop-science viewpoint.

[@stephengent9974]

I thought the term bro-magnon was dead these days. We should add as far as we know. Always more specimens out there to find, which may push our line back further

[@anjou6497]

Love your misprint"bro- magnon". 😂🎉

[@williamwilson6499]

Fascinating discussion, but outside of an academic exercise and curiosity, does any of it really matter?

[@longcastle4863]

As an interested layman, I must say this made me feel a little bit better about finding the taxonomy system in biological evolution frequently confusing.

[@Monedgar123]

So good!

[@kachinaneon]

excellent video.

[@winninymeanssweet1920]

I missed church today but they told me the teaching was genesis so this will make up for it. The bible in my language doesn't elaborate about how humans came to be. This English version is much better to understand. Well, fascinating too, I should add.

[@Ss17405168]

Where does homo naledi fit in to this?

[@DenisMaksymowicz]

Thank you for pointing out accessing the bone marrow cracking, else I would have dismissed you out of hand as another crank

[@fredrikpetersson6761]

Excellent

[@Dbsabzbzb]

I think one identifying characteristic of the human ape, and may distinguish us among the animals, though probably not testable in the fossil record, is our ability to willingly submit to dentistry without being knocked out…

speak for yourself

[@dorothycharginghawk1244]

I am wondering if baboons - with species that have (( possibly)) been isolated in Refugio by the wet and dry cycles that occurred in Africa as the north experienced the advance and retreat of the great ice sheets. Have genetic studies in existing baboons been done, and do they indicate this braided stream or tangled web evolutionary history postulated for humans ?? Robert Sapolsky at Stanford might know who is conducting genetic comparison studies of Baboons.

[@3RAcademy]

He’s a good teacher

[@stanleywilliams4429]

Apes may not be human but it is my belief that apes descended from some branches of the human family. This can be supported by the close DNA relationship.

[@spaceghost8995]

Stick to your day job. If you have one.

[@dennish.7708]

“Apes may not be human” is like saying “birds may not be ducks”. Humans are apes.

[@stanleywilliams4429]

@@dennish.7708 try thinking outside the box, the chromosome count is different. Primates include apes, old world monkeys, new world monkeys, lemurs, and loris . Take your choice of these and humans are still different.

[@kenolson6572]

The tangled web quote is from Sir Walter Scott.

[@ecm958]

I remember Mr. Potatohead. I got the Mr. and Mrs. for Christmas one year. 😊

[@susanroutt6690]

When did apes and humans branch off from simians with tails?

[@DonnieJamesRio]

I believe about 20 mya. There is a fascinating book about just that very subject written by Dr. David Begun entitled "The Real Planet of the Apes". Absolutely one of the most interesting books that I have ever read. You may enjoy it.

[@ShinjitsuKK]

A thumbnail I can agree with for a change 👍

[@Morvant62]

And the worst thing about all this is that we never manage to find out whether the first homo species were able to interbreed, and if they did. We run the risk of juggling species names and establishing identities that have only relative relevance.

[@maryanncrody4867]

My German shepherd learned the marrow trick on herown

[@lonenielsen1787]

Love this AND thnx for not using AI

[@sallyrucker8990]

Anyone else remember the book, “Clan of the cave bear”?

[@thedogfather5445]

Surely Cro Magnon people were early modern human, ie, genetically the same species as Sapiens.

[@Caldwing]

Yes this is certainly the case. Cro Magnon is a broad cultural classification, not a species name. Nobody is contending they are a different species.

[@alanjameson8664]

I still like the old definition of an animal species: a group of creatures that can interbreed to produce fertile offspring.

[@docastrov9013]

As anyone tried breeding with a gorilla?

[@peterhendriks4736]

Great educator. He didn't lose my attention for one second.

[@gabor6259]

Prof. Holliday's tie be like: 💀 💀 💀 ☠ 💀 💀 ☠ 💀 💀 💀 ☠ 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 ☠ 💀 💀 💀 ☠ 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 ☠ 💀 💀 💀 ☠

[@tobyjessup6483]

It is interesting that Homo Naledi was not discussed, particularly as it relates to monophyletic principles. Perhaps Trenton did not want to acknowledge the potential taxonomic controversy, as it would have disrupted the cogent coherence of his presentation.

[@Angie2343]

ur ancestors were incredible.

[@anjou6497]

Yes, but I find them scary to look at. And modern gorillas scare the shit out of me, their whole build is menacing. I also can't stand being anywhere near baboons. Interestingly, baboons are terrified of snakes, they faint at the sight of them. That's why wardens on Table Mountain, South Africa, hand out fake snakes to visitors. Chuck that or your belt at the baboons and they can't handle it. They faint or run. 🌿🧡👀

[@DAVIDPETERS12C]

Try not to determine a clade (e.g. genus) by a few to a dozen traits. Run a phylogenetic analysis. After analysis Australopithecus nests between Pongo and Pan + Gorilla. Homo is derived from a lineage of genera that never knuckl-walked: Sahelanthropus, Hylobates, Oreopithecus, Ardipithecus and Homo floresiensis. That makes 'Lucy' bipedal by convergence. One other extant ape walks bipedally when terrestrial: Hylobates and kin. So that 'problem' is resolved. Gibbons already have a gracile build, small face, side-to-down facing nares, eyebrows, fight with fists (not teeth) and lack fertility swelling. Deep time genomics tend to follow continental areas (e.g. Afrotheria) and tend to too often nest untenable taxa together. Keep gibbons in the picture. Test with traits.

[@Caldwing]

Just to clarify, you are NOT trying to say that gibbons are more closely related to homo than are gorillas or chimps, but simply that the common ancestor of all modern apes was not a knuckle walker? Obviously the former flies in the face of genetic evidence, but the latter seems possible to me. This would imply that the whole lineage was largely arboreal up until the spit between homo and pan. Even if we say Australopiths split off before chimps, this could still leave bipedalism as something that only truly evolved once. In this case, the common ancestor of Australopiths, chimps, gorillas, and homo was a species that was in transition to a ground-dwelling existence. They walked upright on the ground but spent a lot of their time in trees. As this species radiated, multiple lineages adapted to be largely ground-dwelling, with some developing knuckle walking and others further developing upright walking. Of course this still would leave Lucy's full bipedalism to be convergent to some extent. All interesting to consider.

[@DonnieJamesRio]

Wasn't there a guy on here like last year that was talking about convergent evolution in the human lineage? & To the guy who mentioned "hybridization" speeding up evolution; well I really like the point you are making but evolution is a constant. However, hybridization does create more drastic morphological changes in species and this could be described as an increase in the "rate" of evolution per say. Also, I think the "convergent evolution" guy described the tangled web as a "matted dreadlock". I think spider webs are a bit too organized to describe the absolute mess of knots (gene flow including self-selective hybridization processes) that are impossible to untangle that is the human lineage. Check out that other episode; I think it is called "Becoming Bipeds" or something to that effect. This was an awesome episode though! Truly interesting to see all of the replica specimens up close in the camera. Very compelling indeed. I am enjoying watching this channel grow.

[@maryanncrody4867]

How can the inter fertile species not be the same species

[@Ss17405168]

Where does Homo Naledi fit in to this?

[@barrymoore4470]

Homo naledi was one of the species belonging to the Homo genus that is now extinct. Homo sapiens is the only member of the genus that has survived to the present.

[@stefanfrello2953]

Actually genus Australopithecus cannot be monophyletic if at the same time one particular Australopithecus species is the ancestor of genus Homo. Because the ancestor of all species of Australopithecus then also would be the ancestor of all members of genus Homo, and that would violate cladistics. But we really cannot do anything about it!

[@keithparker6520]

Can’t be as bad as Astronomers downgrading Pluto to the dwarf planet clad! ;)

[@CalidrisJZ]

I know the talk is about something different and much more important but the mnemonic device is Kids Play Catch Over Farmer Gene's Stable.

[@annemaria5126]

The further back we look and find evidence from, the more 'we' looked like any other apes. Might it not be possible, as they possibly lived along/among each other, that in those early days when they just started to diverse from one another, that they still every once in a while mixed and mingled with the other members of that extended family. When I watch my neighbourhood-fauna, I see mixed ducks (with different kinds/coloured ducks), and small crows (kauwtjes) with some white feathers, got them from an 'ekster'=magpie-parent? Because I see in people all over the world, very few however, sometimes these ancient characteristics. And these people most certainly are not stupid. Women like, feel attracted to different kinds of men. Like female animals prefer some traits in their possible future male partners (colour, behaviour, size), so do human females. And some females are attracted to men who are significant different from the ones they are ueed to. Men often prefer smaller women, dumber women, or get them from far away, so they can dominate them and thus work on their own selfesteem which used to be very low.

[@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands]

Actually, I don't have that thumb joint like that, I'm still Human though, not every human has it..

[@ecm958]

Cool.

[@GhostSamaritan]

Bro... Just claim you're a chimp and skip paying taxes 😂

[@j.l.emerson592]

I once knew a coworker whose hands more closely resembled a chimpanzee's hands. His thumbs were shorter, closer to the palm, less able to spread out or rotate & it looked like the thumbs were missing a joint. (They weren't actually missing a joint. It just appeared to be missing. He had no problems with a precision grip & his grip was strong.)

[@badax7279]

The tree of life is no longer a tree; nor is it a bush, as it has recently been described. It appears that both species and genome have many mergers, diversions, and dead-ends. It is neither tree nor bush, but a tangled, ever changing capillary system that emerges from several points of obscurity, but always leads back to one point… planet Earth.

[@kalliamanoussaki876]

Can you maybe make the music intro a bit shorter? Thanks for the interesting content!

[@docastrov9013]

Given enough time would some other ape take over after WW3 like Planet of the Apes?

[@richardbarton2709]

One of them is trying to it is called Putin.

[@maryanncrody4867]

I have a bump on my head at the same place as the stairs crest

[@anjou6497]

That was probably at birth, or small accident in childhood ?

[@server1ok]

When future generations dig up the current Homo Sapiens. - Guys, this hominid was toothless :,)

[@anjou6497]

...and perhaps, brainless ? Mobile fone use has caused strokes, tumors, brain deterioration. 😢

[@server1ok]

@@anjou6497 It mainly causes obesity which is the nr. 1 killer in the US

[@anjou6497]

@@server1ok Well yes ! Not enough exercise ..ears to their fones all the time.

[@charlic2]

I understand that hybridization vastly speeds up evolution as it creates faster, more variants, than do genetic mutations, selection, and drift, alone. Think of food crops, pet dogs, horses, domesticated animals...

[@peterolbrisch8970]

So the first human had t to think his parents were kind of dumb.

so did the last human

[@peterolbrisch8970]

Probably some spoiled rich kid with a smart phone who whined all the time and did absolutely nothing himself to improve things.

[@peterolbrisch8970]

So it's the whole dogs sleeping with cats thing. 😂

[@adriaan2618]

Thanks for a very interesting conversation for the both of you. 42:39 ...about neanderthal cold adaptation. How about a fully functional fur coat for cold adaptation! Just like all the rest of European ice age megafauna such as mammoths, rhino's, horses, musk oxen, cave lions, cave bears, bison, hyena, wolves etc. etc. Probably there is some subconscious bias even amongst scientists that says: modern humans have no fur coat, neanderthals look a lot like modern humans, therefor neanderthals have no fur coat. Due to climate change we have thawing of the permafrost and increased accessibility of the arctic. I predict that within a decade we will have discovered at least one neanderthal ice mummy from Siberia having a fully functional fur coat. Woolly mammoth, woolly rhino, woolly man!

[@Caldwing]

We have enough knowledge of Neanderthal genetics now to be pretty certain they were not unusually hairy. All evidence points to fur being lost before the the split of Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens. We have substantial evidence that they wore clothing. Fur would also interfere with sweating. Between these two things I'd say fur is unlikely to re-evolve. Hairy or not though, a Neanderthal ice-mummy would be a hell of an exciting find!

[@Darisiabgal7573]

👍👍👍👍

[@princejesterful]

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to breed"

[@thebealers2102]

What'd you call me??

[@woodspirit98]

Interesting cro-magnon and neanderthals could interbreed the same as neanderthal and denisovan homosapiens could. Hmm. Explain again what the definition of species is. Oh right, a group of organisms that can interbreed and produce viable offspring. cro-magnon, neanderthals, denisovans and sapiens are all us. We are the same species.

[@bassplayersayer]

I have several Neanderthal characteristics.

[@cserpakbalazs6342]

The more information (fosils) you have, the more obvoius it is that concepts like species or genera are only useful if you look at a snapshot of life. Once you bring in evolution, the whole thing falls appart. In the case of ringspecies it falls apart even when you are obseriving creatures living today.

[@strrraszekstrrraszny5103]

🧐🤔🤓👍🏻

[@richardbarton2709]

Shame creationists walk around with their eyes and brains closed.

[@JustThisGuy78]

This genus should be defined by it's rotation; not behavior. This would agree with how a genus is elsewhere defined.

[@timhallas4275]

Homo-Erectus was contemporary with Homo-Sapiens, yet the brain case difference was very significant, virtually proving that they were not directly related. In other words, Homo-Erectus was not an ancestor to Homo-Sapiens. Any ancestor common to both had to be more than 2.5 million years ago. In fact, even today the descendants of Homo-Erectus are remarkably primitive when compared to the descendants of early Homo-Sapiens.

[@bobbywise2313]

Erectus was around for well over 2 million years and most of that was before sapiens appeared. So it is very possible a branch of the them evolved into Homo ergaster which eventually lead to sapiens. Homo sapiens has only been aroused around for 250 to 300 thousand years. Homo neanderthal probably appeared just slightly before that. It is thought that they share a direct common ansester but that is debated.

[@timhallas4275]

@@bobbywise2313 Nope. It has been found that the only possible common ancestor between erectus and sapiens lived before erectus by nearly a million years. In fact, not all hominids have a common ancestor. There were many pre-homo apes that evolved to homo. We do not have an Adam and Eve linage. Erectus was not your baby daddy.... unless you are sub-Saharan African....then maybe it's possible. The evidence in the DNA provides a path for erectus genes to still be among the human population within that one group and all descendants of that group. The ad-mix event 40,000 years ago, in central Africa was the source. You may have erectus DNA, but I do not. I have not one chromosome in common with erectus. Do you?

[@bobbywise2313]

@@timhallas4275 I have never once heard that Erectus was a direct ancestor and the were definitely a different species. Neanderthal is actually considered a sub species to Homo sapiens and or often referred to as Homo sapien neanderthal. As such mating with neanderthal with fertile offspring was possible. But it would not have been possible with erectus and more than it would with habilis. Habilis is often considered the first of the genus Homo but there is another contender for that now. And some don't consider habilis a member of Homo. He seems to fit Homo better than Australopithecus in my opinion. And it did lead to Erectus. Erectus was around for a couple million years and no doubt saw a few species come and go. Also during that time erectus did experience an increase in brain size thanks to cooking and a high protein diet. I am very rusty on the branching theories but I think ergaster is considered a decedent of Heidelbergen likely evolved from erectus as well. Consider erectus lived over 2 million years and has been found in places like India and Europe it should not be a surprise that he has some descendants.

[@grzlbr]

Guessing is now facts?, tisk tisk. Why not use the term, "subject to change" which leads to credibility.

[@Titus-as-the-Roman]

Why (?????), it was all every bit the truth. You folks need to get out of your offices more often and Live like you want too, but most unfortunately are too Dignified for such foolishness. You need to know that just because we were born Brain-Dead doesn't mean we're not interested in a variety of subjects.🤨

[@derekallen4568]

Btw. I'm more hetero than homo😂

[@NONANTI]

People are going to like what they like but Holliday definitely has an obsession with homos.

[@Rovinman]

""Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive !"" { From the Epic poem Marmion, { A tale of Flodden Field in the 16th C. } by Sir Walter Scott 1808 } Absolutely Fascinating ! All we need now, is ALL the bones of EVERY Fossil, with it's DNA, to compare, then we can finally determine with Absolute certainty, that we're ALL connected somehow ..... ABSOLUTELY ! Stay Searching ! Stu xx

[@eeeaten]

if you have a point to make, why be so shy about making it?

[@danielpaulson8838]

Of course we are. If you need to see every long gone detail, you’ll never see. Open eyes must be in a brain type.

[@kingfillins4117]

He’s presenting outdated ideas. It’s now known that Cro-Magnon is no longer considered. That species were coming in and out of Africa, not just coming out of Africa, and it was happening at such a scope that it is impossible to gauge that process. No obvious linear process.

[@TheLeonhamm]

They were, we are being told here, not human because there is no evidence that they were actually related .. erm .. to 'us' - or rather to our 'kinds' of ancestors (which is now affirmed by way of physical characteristics). And that simply means .. they were 'apes' not 'people' - individual persons - so their animal intellect (living aka ensouled capacity for reason) was unlike ours = they were, therefore, not moral agents, capable of making free-will moral choice and to take responsibility for those actions. So, regardless of how alike we may seem anatomically, and no matter what intelligent ingenuity they shared with us in technological dexterity, they - it seems - were not quite enough like us to be part of us nor had they the actual ability to become .. us (sapient). Which, oddly enough, means though our common environments were and are widely and wildly different, such animals are still animals only, and not at all 'human' animals, certainly not by way of unfolding developments due to fluke, pressure, or ability. How we are to make such moral judgements on our ancestors and those of other fairly similar beings - based upon something like advanced phrenology and putative biology - and then deem these judgements to be facts* is the real mystery waiting to .. evolve before us (into testable clarity). Science is a wonder .. Yey! ;o) * We may indeed do so, though patently not by way of measuring skulls (quantum-ising basically qualitative assessments).

[@Despiser25]

There is three or four different species of human in any college faculty lounge.

[@tobywestfall2970]

Where does trump fit ?

[@danielpaulson8838]

Mold

[@survivortechharold6575]

not one word of this can be tested or proven by the scientific method.

he said, knowing nothing about the video subject OR the scientific method

[@embryophytelove]

Push play and learn something.

[@dennish.7708]

Well, let’s start with the word “the”, since it shows up in the video. How do we test and prove the word “the”?

[@albin2232]

Evolution is a compelling theory. I'm still waiting for it to start, though.

[@eeeaten]

try education

[@dennish.7708]

And I’m still waiting for gravity to kick in. Compelling theory, though.

[@vesuvandoppelganger]

Humans were created. Most likely there were more than 2 people that were created and they were created in various locations around the world.

[@spaceghost8995]

Go ahead keep moving the goalposts!

[@NONANTI]

Exactly. Aliens genetically engineering different breeds of humans and placing them in geographically isolated regions of the world.

[@compactcasette]

Yeah. I remember that. I think Peter Cushing did it first.

[@vesuvandoppelganger]

It seems that the creator of humans can't be a corporeal entity such as an alien. We can't create a cell from scratch and the sequence of nucleotide bases in the genome was written by a genius with an extremely high IQ.

[@spaceghost8995]

@@vesuvandoppelganger Who knows?

[@Donaleigh222]

If H. Sapiens evolved in Africa, where are their remains, fossils? No H.Sapien has ever been found in Africa, so, what are you takin abooout?

[@rmcfete]

If man came from the ape how come there are no fossils of them all the way back ??? Man did not come from the ape.

[@Qwerty.240]

There are a lot of fossils from recent history as far as 80-100k years ago. Before that, we're still uncovering more and more fossils. But there's more than enough evidence of our cousin and origin apes that lived before us.

[@rickdelatour5355]

There are. You not knowing is not an argument. How else could humans have formed?

[@rickdelatour5355]

@@rmcfete BTW, we still are apes.

[@bobbywise2313]

We have lots of Australopithecine fossils. To my knowledge we don't have a last common ansester fossil with chimpanzees. We have fossils from close to that but not quite that far back.

[@danielpaulson8838]

Most are still from mold. Congratulations.

[@JILOA]

Don't laugh at these people who believe this evolution theory because there are kids who still believe in Santa.

[@macdog1]

Are you from Westboro or something? 😂

[@JILOA]

@@macdog1 Ya don't know - do ya?

[@macdog1]

@@JILOA if you're equating evolution with Santa Claus, I can't help but wonder something silly as such

[@JILOA]

@@macdog1 Not silly. If you believe the fairytale that we evolved from a cell in an ooz of mud into humans all by pure accident then believing in Santa isn't a stretch.

[@macdog1]

@@JILOA Evolution isn’t a random ‘fairytale’ - it’s a process driven by natural selection, where beneficial traits help organisms survive and reproduce, leading to complex life forms over billions of years. This is backed by fossil records, genetics, and observable evidence, unlike the Santa analogy, which is just a misunderstanding of how science actually works.

[@JILOA]

A video on utube called "why the earth can't be old" is important to watch if anyone is truly looking for evidence of evolution or if evolution is a hoax.

[@macdog1]

BUAHAHAHAHA a creationist video 😂, classic unEdu silliness. My gosh the irony in calling science a hoax. You are so out to lunch I'm not even sure where to begin. Why tf are you even on these videos? 🤔

[@JILOA]

@@macdog1Really? Is that really the best you can do? You didn't watch the video but you can call psudo science legitimate and believe it to be true science? You have a reprobate mind and you can't be honest with yourself. Listen to the video then if you can still believe in evolution good luck.

[@JILOA]

@@macdog1 let's compare the educational and IQ level of intelligence of the speakers in the video I suggested with the one in this video. Watch the video and let me know which produces the best scientific evidence. But, I don't think you'll actually watch it because you know it will make the "theory" of evolution just that, a theory based on hypothesis.

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@@JILOA "Life on this planet can't be 10's of millions of years old because death can't enter the world before sin"... This isn't science, the video you presented is complete sophism. My gosh

[@macdog1]

​@@JILOAcalling evolution psudeo... while platforming young earth creationism... My gosh, comedy gold. Evolution is a fact