Budokai Tenkaichi 2 is MASSIVE- A Dragon Ball Z Retrospective

[@KhameCat]

What first comes to mind when I think of the Android 13 movie is “don’t you lecture me with your $30 haircut!”. I am SO HAPPY that made it into this video

[@MrAweeze]

You forgot the ",boy!" Which is what really sells it.

[@esskaygee7616]

It still always gets me on how that quote ISN'T an Abridged line

[@andrewblose3057]

My first thought is the nut-punch

[@marievjing]

I love the fact that each dbz game on the ps2 has their own unique feature, meaning that neither of them are obsolete and you have to own each of them for differents reasons (something so rare for long franchise) : - Budokai 1 : the story mode with amazing cut-scenes just like the anime - Budokai 2 : the board game with differents inroads and unique characters (fusions and buu's absorptions) - Budokai 3 : a different story mode for each character (for example since android 19 isn't in this game, when you play as goku and you reach the android saga, you only have to beat Cell since canonically he never fights the androids and was sick for all the saga. Another hint that the original plan was to goku to retire and let his kids (gohan & goten) to be the next main heroes, but that's another topic ;) - Super Dragon ball z : For its street fighter fight style and arcade style - Budokai Tenkaichi 1 : Is unfortunetly the only skippable of all of them, the story mode isn't very interesting and it only introduced the tenkaichi (free-camera) gameplay - Budokai Tenkaichi 2 : Introduced RPG-elements and probably has the most complete and longest story mode of all ps2 dbz games, almost a hundreds fights, they're all there (dbz, the oav, GT). And you can travel on the map just like Budokai 3 - Budokai Tenkaichi 3 : The characters are talking during the fights (something that never happened) and introduced a script system : For exemple, at your 1st fight with Raditz, it's almost impossible to win with goku and piccolo, you just have to wait to push R3 to make the strory continue. Same with Nappa, you fights as tien, chiaotzu, gohan and piccolo and you lose all of them just like the anime. It's a great immersion for dragon ball fans ;) - Infinite world : Introduced mini-games just like the only one in Budokai 1 and just like Budokai 1, you have to beat the story mode one time with only the fights of goku and gohan and then you unlocks the second part of the story mode with all the others characters. The map is also very similar to the board game of Budokai 2 - DBZ sagas : has cut-scenes straight from the anime with unique objectives Sorry for the long comment and for my bad english ;)

[@Solaspange]

That’s every game like pokeman

[@Thanos6]

I think the reason they have Future Trunks on the American cover is because he's a time traveler, so it's thematically appropriate for him to display Goku's "past, present, and future."

[@Just_a_Nameless_Cat]

The secret to always win the beam clash, is using both sticks at same time. This also works in BT3

[@vegetashairline3060]

Yes dude, I was the only one of my friends and siblings who knew this back in the day, so I would drive them crazy that they never could beat me 😂. To this day I never told them how I did it

[@56Tyskie]

Shhhh thats a trade secret 🤫

[@canteloupe3254]

Someone mentioned holding L2 to help get more hits in, is that a thing?

[@andrewlong9799]

Also if you hit r2 you can burn your ki give yourself a massive bonus to your beam. But it usually leaves you drained

[@MinusThePrevail]

The soundtrack for this game was peak mid 2000s. They don’t make ‘em like this anymore

[@reycoswanson]

Best one imo. I listen to it at work lol

[@VigilantAnarchism]

Lost Courage for the win

[@ivanjunior85]

19:00 This game does include The History of Trunks, but it uses Buu Saga Gohan instead of Future Gohan

[@najibosman6497]

Yeah but it’s not a good adaptation at all so i can’t blame him for forgetting about it

[@extremelegendsupreme4596]

I always found that stupid tbh, like they seriously couldn’t take the time to make one more character instead of using an incorrect version

[@Buttington_Headerson]

I thought future Gohan had one arm?

[@xavierparis2789]

@@extremelegendsupreme4596I don’t mind them not making Future Gohan for this game, it’s already packed with content, but they could have at least given him a costume that made Adult Gohan closer to his special counterpart.

[@eggft.spicysmallguacamole2270]

The amount of content in this game is insane. If it were to release today, 40% of it would be at launch and the other 60% would br season pass DLC

[@mookiestewart3776]

Yeah idk about that chief , sparking zero looks to be quite a bit bigger

[@Binglitpawn]

Erm 182 characters in sparking zero base roster.

[@m.r4841]

⁠@@BinglitpawnBT 2 and 3 still have a better roster

[@TheWonkster]

​@@mookiestewart3776yeah and has a garbage story mode

[@mookiestewart3776]

@@TheWonkster ehh…..when you get into all the what if stuff I would say it’s a pretty average tenkaiichi story mode. These games were never known for their story modes anyway, and they added the custom battle creator as well, although that needs some serious QOL improvements . But overall the amount of content in this game is at the tenkaichi level if not more. If you don’t like the story mode that’s fine, but it’s not like the story mode was any better in T3…..

[@bcleary120]

BT2 is probably the game I poured the most time into with my PS2, there's just so much to do and I never found myself bored? It improves on pretty much everything from the first game, which I found myself somewhat disappointed with as a kid. Any critique I'd have is dwarfed by everything else it does right. While other games may do certain things better, I'd say that this is the entry that has a little something for everyone.

[@EternalStorm796]

Zarbon's story is actually my second favorite what if throughout all the games. First being Raditz. They sorta made him compelling to me with his obsession and plotting ending in tragedy. it made me think what could have followed after Goku was wished back to Earth. If Goku would have wished him back as a way of thanks & how everything would have changed..

[@CYB3R2K]

Complaining about the voices is the menu is ridiculous. Is a plus for me, never gets old. Plus you can skip it.

[@StotterChannel]

Fun fact, in Tenkaichi 2 only, if Zangya and Android 18 fight in a battle, 18 will call Zangya a skank

[@ishyk10]

I always figured “Planet” was meant to be the setting of the first Broly movie

[@TheExtraordinarySaiyan0709]

I always thought this as well and wondered why It wasn’t used In Brolys saga…

[@theantone7476]

Turles is not Goku's brother

[@max-power1023]

He isnt, but some dubs refer to him as his brother.

[@adamantium4797]

It's his twin brother whatever who cares

[@max-power1023]

@@adamantium4797 Canon explanation is that lower class saiyans looks more alike. Like same hairstyle and less variety.

[@Jago-Shogun]

Man, I love Turles, the ORIGINAL Goku black. I like how his' tree of might is also a reverse Genki-dama. Also the cell games is a survival mode so you don't fully heal/get treated like in normal world tournament.

[@reycoswanson]

I actively listen to this games ost. It's not just nostalgic, Awake, Lost courage, Crisis just to name a few are phenomenal.

[@Browneyedbakedpotato]

Hell yeah dude, another badass retrospective as always!!

[@evprince]

Thanks so much man!

[@nessdbest8708]

@@evprince The history of trunks is in Tenkaichi 2

[@TamsinV]

Fantastic video. I really appreciate how thorough you are, including things like going over the towers which no one else I've seen talk about this game even mentions.

[@evprince]

You know how we do it here!

[@TheRealDarthias]

@EvanPrice - You are definitely one of the best retrospective channels I have come across, and even though I came across your channel about 2 months ago, I've watched every single one of your videos. Very insightful and really great, I cannot recommend your channel enough. Much love for the channel man!

[@evprince]

Well you know there's more coming!

[@ishyk10]

The Wii version is the absolute best version of Tenakichi 2 and 3. The motion controls aren’t overbearing and when they *are* utilized, they make such a huge difference in the immersion

[@Glasshouse828]

32:43-32:53 Which is strange considering neglected fictional characters in general are less inclined to be “normal” than their saturated counterparts due to lack of normalization within the public lexicon

[@CaptainPorcupine]

12:25 turles isn't gokus brother lol

[@m.r4841]

He is Gokus brother

[@WhiplashPuppet]

26:18 Fun fact. If you win the tournament as Hercule, you actually get different dialogue of him celebrating his victory. Just, good luck winning with Hercule, lmao.

[@QuakeGamerROTMG]

That Raditz what if story has always stuck with me even though I haven't touched T2 in a good 15 years, I remember it really making me sad as a kid to see him redeem himself and still die in the end. I haven't played this game since I got 3 but with how much better the story mode is I might have to give it another shot.

[@DavidLucian]

Despite all the DBZ games that have come out over the years, BT1 has the most badass and authentic Intro of all of DBZ games of the Franchise. BT2 and BT3 in my opinion still remains the most Unique and the best DBZ games in terms of content, quality and fanservices. And from the gameplay perspective aspects, these DBZ games that I mentioned are very close to the anime itself because of the Vibe and Charm, I don't know how to describe it but it was, and still is the most Unique DBZ experience you could have with the combat factor. (- Sheer amount de of characters - Transformations mid-battle (powering up and down) - Fusions mid-battle - Fast gameplay that has that "woah" feel - Tons of extra content - Story mode covering all sagas + movies - What If sagas - Shenron having permanent impact on game (character unlocks and whatnot) - Great tournaments that rotate availability - Edit characters with items (buffs) - 5v5 battles - Really Great and Epic Soundtracks - Destroyable environments - Entire stages could be blown up into their "destroyed" alternatives - Mission 100 being a great challenge - Artwork is 10/10 - Sound effects are great - Combat feels heavy and satisfying) Only Budokai 3, Infinite World and the Raging Blast 1 and 2 and all of PSP DBZ games except of Dragon Ball Z Evolution are still considered also very solid DBZ games, also the hidden gem that a lot of DBZ fans missed from PS2 Era of DBZ games is "Super Dragon Ball Z" which is also a real Unique and DBZ game, especially for the different gameplay aspects perspective. ✌️

[@vacantdizz]

Let me just go ahead and get this outta the way before any more misinfo pops up: Tenkaichi 2 IS the best game out of the series. What I mean by this is, the tech in T2 is LEAGUES above the others and honestly, ANY 3d fighter period. Tenkaichi 3 ended up adding more characters, a few combo extensions (for worst honestly) and streamlining the mechanics and if you play both back to back (and you actually know what you’re doing) you’ll realize all that you’re missing.. Most will tell you Tenkaichi 2 only had a better story mode (or soundtrack), Lol but I’m sorry, I can’t let this idea keep being spread. These are 2 different games. T2 will sadly forever be overshadowed by the last installment *Amazing analysis overall though my guy! Love the respect you give these games!

[@evprince]

Playing BT3 now! Loving it so far though tbh.

[@vacantdizz]

@@evprince Oh trust me, T3 is still amazing in it’s own right! I’m just coming from a place of 20 years with this series and the conversation I’ve seen growing up. One of the best trilogies out, it’s just all of them are misunderstood in their own ways Lol

[@Meelow-jp8lb]

​@@vacantdizzYou can't objectively state the better game.

[@vacantdizz]

@@Meelow-jp8lb I mean yeah people will have their preferences on what which game has. But you can decipher and scale which one executes “better” than the other. MK11 vs MK1 for example. There’s a lot of preference in the whole “T2 vs T3” debate, but people never factor in the things that make T2 ACTUALLY shine that T3 DOESNT have… Which was my original point (although T2 Elitist as Hell Lol)

[@malosqueekr]

@vacantdizz Lmaooo I shouldve guessed Id see you on a tenkaichi video 💀

[@Stunnels]

My Number 1 favourite game as a kid. I never even owned it. I would just rent it over and over again from the video store

[@TheAckeePlant]

47:15 I feel like the length is a plus though. As a kid this game legitimately gave me hundreds of hours of content. We didn’t get games often, so when a game really gave us our moneys worth, that was a fantastic thing

[@dohner29]

Anybody agree that BT2 is better than BT3? I always went back to BT2 just loved this game.

[@icxydragon]

I dooooooo

[@MasterHoshii]

Yisss

[@learntospoken]

the trick with beam struggles is to lay one hand over both sticks and just shake your hand back and forth

[@LilBoom]

LETS GOO BEEN WAITING FOR

[@kenchiishow4362]

Its crazy how all 3 games are still masterpieces, bandai came out swinging 🥊🔥

[@tikkelbikkel]

Tenkaichi 2 is peak Dragonball for me

[@LiferProductions]

I bought my first DBZ game in blockbuster almost 20 years ago. I picked budokai 3. But the employee put this in instead. I love budokai but I’m glad this game was my introduction to the series and the stories especially because it was hard to find all the sagas and movies in dvds back then around my area

[@DaumieAlonzo]

i never noticed it before but seeing 'BEEF HoT DoGS | HAMBURGE' in the background of east city has me cryin fr

[@RyomaGX]

Awe snap you finally drop Tenkaichi 2!! Forever one of the best DB games 🙏🏾

[@GoldenDragonMonkey]

Tenkaichi 2 came out shortly after Cartoon Network first aired Wrath of the Dragon which made it all the more hype

[@TheAbsoluteSir]

As good as Sparking zero looks, sometimes it looks too good for its own good because there's so much flash sometimes I find it hard to see what the heck is going on. The Tenkaichi games had a great balance of flash and visibility.

[@Jp-do9ny]

Agreed

[@RickueEvans-oi1iz]

Agreed

[@dmas7749]

i'm in the crowd of people who *still* play TK2 and just like to hear people talking about this and am also pretty stoked that we're getting a new game, it's pretty wild

[@jmzawesomeness]

For years people have been telling me bt2 is better than BT3 but it’s really not due to roster limitations . A lot of those fights are repetitive and the same battles . BT3 makes better use of its new characters while also having multiple stages in one chapter as well as background dialogue and changing endings . BT3 might cover less but does wayyyy more with what it has than bt2 . I mean why would you want to play future trunks saga with buu saga gohan ?there are many examples of this in bt2. Ssj4 goku being used for every single gt fight is another example

[@strugglesnuggledslime7040]

Being reminded of BT2´s absolutely extensive campaign mode through this and recently having replayed BT3 Im really wondering whatever happened. BT3´s Dragon...whatever is so hugely downscaled and unambitious its borderline hilarious. Sure they put some more work into the Ultimate Battle mode but...man the campaign is just a disgrace. Also,nice seeing someone else appreciate the old movies these days. :D

[@CYB3R2K]

3 had the better look (I hate how energy looks in this game) and the characters look more accurate than ever. 3 is the better game

[@Ianfeltz]

My childhood best friend and I played this game all the time. The amount of crazy battles we had.. couldn’t even put a number on it. I’ve always liked this more than 3 , probably just personal bias from the good fights with a good friend.

[@tomhibbert6486]

If you thought this was big you should see the sequel

[@amuroray88]

The jump from 1 to 2 vs 2 to 3 is much more impressive though. 3 is more like an expansion pack where as 2 has both much more content and refinement

[@Zelielz1]

Tenkaichi 3 has a shorter summarised history mode.

[@dopy6801]

Tenkaichi 3 is a BREEZE to beat in comparison to T2 😂

[@frankmarchetta4744]

Hello, Evan In regards to the beam struggles, I also did not win one until I realized you can rotate both sticks to up the combo. So try that.

[@Wuropl]

Awesome video, I didn't played these games at the time so this was very interesting

[@Spenaband]

The music is so good in this game

[@seppisorrenti2464]

I love your stuff and how in depth you review everything thank you!

[@illyrianillyrian8536]

Best game with the best music

[@ColdRavensNest]

Based!

[@evprince]

Thank you! I appreciate your generosity!

[@CYB3R2K]

"I'm glad it doesn't use the music from the anime" and this is why we can't have nice things. Hell no, that's a negative. I want the music, i want the full anime experience in the game. Only Japan got that right.

[@Solaspange]

Why does no one talk about the free camera mode? You can fight without having the camera locked on the enemies

[@dylaytch]

Use both analog sticks on the beams struggles

[@Araken90]

Great Video but Turles is not Gokus Brother, they just look alike

[@kevinmartins8832]

Think it was pretty obvious he was joking lol

[@eternalvibes6858]

the BEST DBZ game soundtrack

[@MartinAF001]

Great video bro

[@DUDEBLARGG]

This is one of the first games I truly 100%'d. Tried doing it again with BT3, but alas wasn't able to

[@Rude_Boi]

15:39 I can 100% relate to you here, but i had the old VHS 📼 clamshell for Cooler's Revenge (my favorite), Return of Cooler, and Broly LSSJ.

[@Vintagesonic1]

I really hope that after you finish covering BT3, you also check out the fan made BT4 mod, as it's essentially the sequel we never got.

[@Hawkcam1996]

2:50 It would be awesome if Sparking Zero had this feature. That was one of my favorite parts of BT2. Outside of the battles of course.

[@Ayokaay]

My favorite game out the series

[@BBK113]

There's actually 2 PAL region covers, Europe got the Japanese cover while Australia got the US one

[@ikeaira8701]

Great video! Always played this game paired with Budokai 3(not tenkaichi 3) to get that complete open world experience between the secrets, etc.

[@JoaoGonçalves-k7k]

No bro u wrong. Its pleasure listen to them. Dragon ball is very important to me. The voice of goku ^^

[@metalsnake262]

The goat❤

[@jacobwest7]

I'm hoping we get a tournament mode like the big tournament mode in sparking zero I like the randomness of the opponents on the bracket and want a randomness in regards to stages to go along with it. What would make it even better would be the ability to pick however many of your favorite stages to randomly bounce around between and maybe playing as a diff character every match like the Yamcha tournament in bt 3 does if I'm not mistaken

[@williamwhite1036]

Can't wait for you to review the GOAT AKA DBZ BT3.

[@almightyfonics]

Favorite game of all time

[@marievjing]

By the way, this is actually my favorite dbz game on the ps2. It's the most complete and I think it's the one with the best gameplay (with the rpg/tactics damages elements ... The fact that you have to guard up or down on how about your opponent will attack, etc ...). But It just feels a little weird to say the game is too long but maybe it's because you weren't ready for it, you didn't except this ;) For me, it was like saying that a GTA was too long (I mean, it's meant to be ^^). But also, we live in a time when video-games are shorter than usual just to make "easy-money" :(

[@evprince]

Oh yeah good way of looking at it!

[@marievjing]

@@evprince By the way, if you want a little advice/hint for Tenkaichi 3's story mode : when you see the icon R3, press it. It's not only meant for changing characters but it's also use to move on the story/events because the story mode of Tenkaichi 3 is very scrypted. They wanted to make it as accurate as the manga/anime :)

[@iamthetruth21]

I see enjoyable content I click like

[@evprince]

Man of culture.

[@DenniDownBad]

38:47 I will continue to say that no, not every character plays virtually the same. Yes they might if all you're doing is mashing square, sometimes pressing triangle and throwing in the occasional super/ultimate move. Yes they'll be the same because your doing the same thing over and over again. kzbin.info/aero/PLyLi4eHTgFgbOEdSq7Pc4z6LRl1BpMG9b&si=p4voY6jbGRXbSVdu ^This playlist shows you how different characters can be and different the gameplay can be or has change across all 3 Budokai Tenkaichi games.

[@supersaiyantech9]

When they remastered 1&3 I was kinda upset when they never ported a 2 remastered

[@carlintaylor3229]

This is still my favorite one ❤❤ got it for Christmas of 2006

[@AstralWeebo]

Ah, my first love

[@JJ-fo7zj]

I came to the US from Mexico and didnt speak English, the only thing I could relate to was DBZ. My brother and I had a PS2 but I didn’t know what was a memory card. So we played it many times just to lose all the progress but never beat it cuz of that. I remember we spent a whole Saturday just to beat the campaign and actually did. But lost all 12 hrs of progress 😂😂. Simpler time can’t wait for sparkling zero

[@Abom713]

You beam struggle sounds like an emulation issue since I never had a problem with them as a kid on original hardware.

[@iamthetruth21]

38:00 are you playing on an emulator ? Because same bro but I don’t remember this being a thing on the original console

[@adityakhanna113]

Your videos are great! I would even be happy if they were even more detailed!

[@evprince]

Thanks so much! I'd actually like to start doing even deeper dives into a lot of the games I cover. Here's to that in the future!

[@andrecambridge4474]

The greatest

[@roughpatches]

We just played it again and it's so good.

[@CassiCalamity]

Eased up on the Kid Buu battle? I HAD AN AWFUL FUCKING TIME AS A KID ON IT LMAO

[@rosieandcozy]

Question - How did you remove the outlines in the emulator? Can someone tell me? It looks so much better without the outlines

[@evprince]

You have to mess with the settings a bit, there's tutorials on KZbin I used one of those. I think the version of the emulator you're using matters too.

[@Willybob420]

I loved using items to make new characters I feel like this should of came bsck

[@hadinasrallah8928]

The game has the best theme song

[@Langtree]

hello from a new subscriber 👋

[@evprince]

Hello 👋

[@MrTim-sh6ru]

Turles isn’t Goku’s brother lol

[@ShadowMark3_]

14:20 This man didn't hit up the tutorial before doing anything?

[@spoopboe3046]

Can’t wait to see bt3

[@r3bel383]

BT3 is an awesome game, however i feel it has less in the story mode compared to BT2 and is why i would choose BT2 over BT3 everyday

[@toodreammy]

My favorite and only played one

[@Meelow-jp8lb]

With the chance now here, I want to hear your thoughts on this: Every Fusion except Kefla, Z Gotenks, Super Gogeta and Gogeta Blue is carried by the games. (Aka, Super Vegito, SSJ4 Gogeta, and Vegito Blue). Reasons: 1. Super Vegito did about two attacks, the Candy beat down on Buu, and Spirit Sword. Spirit Sword has very lame animation, and isn't as epic as it's portrayed in the games. And besides that, all Vegito did (That was memorable) was talk. 2. Ssj4 Gogeta, we all know, no need to explain. 3. First of all, Vegito Blue was never even meant to be in the Future arc. And the only memorable thing he did was the Final kamehameha which was about 9 seconds. Him punching Zamasu was popularized by Fighterz, proving my point. All he did was some basic punches, generic comboes, a spirit sword that lasted about 30 seconds, and yeah, that's it. The clash he did with Zamasu is epic, but it doesn't redeem the lameness of Vegito. Moving on to the characters NOT carried by the games: 1. Gotenks. He has a creative moveset, his most memorable move being Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack. And (At least to me), his appearance against Buu in the hyperbolic time chamber had some of the, if not the best humor in Dragon Ball. 2. Kefla fought Ui Goku in one of the most iconic Dragon Ball Fights. 3. Super Gogeta has amazing animation, and that single combo he did on Janemba is milked like crazy. He's not exaggerated, he's just as he is in the movie he originates from. 4. Gogeta Blue is arguably the only Fusion that LOOKS powerful. Lore wise, every fusion is stupid strong, but Gogeta Blue is portrayed that way much better than any other fusion. These are just my opinions, but the only reason I put them here is to hear anyone elses opinion on them.

[@hartman.4744]

Comment dropped.

[@NumberNineKeo]

How do you get no outlines on the characters? it looks so clean

[@user-neptune84]

I remember bought this game from Walmart Holmes Rd Memphis Tennessee same month I drove in 1997 red Ford Escort four door went to Walmart game section all I see trunks holding up sword I didn't know the game was released and I got cash so I went to the counter as for the game then bought it and unlocked everything

[@verymelonman12]

Hear from the podcast with Niosai and YourFavorite Son

[@evprince]

That was a great time!

[@roughpatches]

I am convinced I'm the best in the world at this game.

[@Waterypeanutbutter]

How did he get mid super saiyan goku against super android 13?

[@xenogoku857]

Why did you finish most of the modes on the easiest difficulty? Wouldn't it have been better if you tried at least on normal or hard difficulty?

[@evprince]

A portion of them were done on higher difficulties, but many were done on easy for time. Tournament mode was done on all difficulties.

[@dopy6801]

I think “Worlds Strongest” is one of the least hated movies, pretty sure Android 13, Cooler’s Return and Broly Second Coming are all worse rated 😂

[@treesapien5762]

How did they even manage to fit all this onto a DVD?

[@QuakeGamerROTMG]

By not using uncompressed 4K textures for every individual pube on every character like modern devs do

[@treesapien5762]

@@QuakeGamerROTMG I miss when developers had no choice but to optimize their games for limited hardware.

[@SILK97]

Is this video footage from a mod or something? It doesn’t look half bad for a PS2 game

[@evprince]

No lol this is just how the game looks.

[@anturkey2074]

I PLAYED THIS ON THE Wii🙃

[@xbon1]

u want lord slug to be upsized? play some sparking zero.