SAGAS: The Forgotten DragonBall Z Collect-A-Thon - Retrospective History & Analysis

[@devantemanns9321]

So many people dislike this game but I always loved it, especially playing as broly and just punting enemies into buildings.

[@dillynsden]

It's a really fun dumb co-op game!

[@lucidmind9676]

If you had a friend or a sibling to play with, this game was actually pretty fun and one thing that it did have that no other game has featured is the What-If Yardrat saga which was a cool touch. This game was basically a very bad prototype of DBZ Kakarot. Also it was the first game to actually have Future Gohan with one arm

[@JoverTCG]

Forgotten? This has given a generation of anime gamers PTSD

[@MadLadMartyMcFly85]

Draaaammmaaa quueeeeeeennn

[@MrAweeze]

Believe me, we'd all be better off of it was forgotten. *proceeds to annoyingly interrupt you by charging slow time kamehameha*

[@MadLadMartyMcFly85]

@@MrAweeze you mean just like in the anime😐😐

[@AJ24773]

To this day, i don't understand how i beat this game as a kid

[@josechamu240]

I liked the game as a kid. Yt wants me to hate it but its good mindless fun.

[@ENNEN420]

Calling DBZ Sagas a Collect-A-Thon cause it has collectibles is like calling Banjo-Kazooie a Beat-em Up cause you can punch enemies

[@Solaspange]

True

[@lightninstriker10]

There's one thing I like about this game, just one. The bit of the narration in the opening cutscene that goes "...Thus setting in motion a chain of events that will take Goku far beyond the world he has sworn to protect, and force him to test his might against the most powerful villains the universe has ever known! Will Goku prevail against these deadly foes? It's all up to you, as the journey continues..." It gives me chills and legitimately even to this day hypes me up beyond most any other DB game out there. and then it dies with a whimper as I remember I'm playing Sagas.

[@projesusantisatan3583]

This was my first Dragon Ball game. It holds a very special place in my heart

[@thepurpleshade486]

the part that clogs ur arteries?

[@usmnichols8636]

Same here❤

[@ARCADE_EXE]

You deserve so much more subscribers. Your coverage and analyses compacted by your optimism in light of a game's flaws, you accentuate the pros and cons of a quality game...

[@doodledoo6430]

13:33 Also, I would like to point out that they technically did give certain characters like Goku, Gohan, Trunks and Vegeta an ascended super Saiyan form. For example, Goku (ascended) has the standard Super Saiyan form that grants both a speed and power boost, except the only drawback is its meter draining speed. Both Cell Games and Saiyan Armor Goku have the "mastered" Super Saiyan form, which also grants a power boost, an extended timer, but no speed boost. Goku, Trunks and Gohan have separate versions that include both forms, while Vegeta is the only character to have the form without the speed boost, which in that case, would be considered as Vegeta's "Grade 2" form. You can also see a slight difference in the way their aura is displayed when playing as either Goku (ascended) or Goku (Cell Games).

[@evprince]

Huh wow I didn't even notice!

[@dennisbergkamp17]

Man my brother and I used to play the shit outta this game. I mostly remember using a cheat code to unlock all the characters, and destroying everyone as Broly. I actually have very fond memories of Sagas.

[@andrewmah2962]

Broly wrecks everyone

[@gogitoDBZ963]

I have some fond memories of this game. I was around 4 years old when it came out, and played it a year after. I always did the “infinite combo” cheese by just pressing the square button 3 times, wait a second, and do it again. Was it repetitive? Yeah. Is it a good game? Kinda. But I still enjoy this game regardless. I remember my mom got me a silver PS2 along with the game and I was so happy to play it. Years later, I got the game on an Emulator and beat it, confused as to why there wasn’t a Buu Saga. But now, 23 years of age, I understand why the game wasn’t perceived as the greatest game. Still, hearing the soundtrack takes me back…

[@paperclip019]

I was an Xbox kid growing up, so this was my only dragon ball z game, I remember my brother and I playing it for hours. I still hold it in high regard despite it not being great just because of the memories

[@nora-yc6fi]

2 months late but As someone who never saw the anime and experienced the series for the first time through games like these, I really enjoyed the "cutscenes" for being anime clips Felt like a way for me to watch the show when I couldn't (no cable, and before streaming services were a thing)

[@Arc115YT]

I remember getting stuck on the SSJ Goku vs Frieza fight as a kid because my form would run out and then Frieza would just completely own me. Once I recruited my brother for help, though, we completely flipped the script and kicked Frieza's ass! One of my favorite memories involving this game.

[@doodledoo6430]

I absolutely loved this game for what it is. The music's great, the voice clips that play occasionally, the UI and the super Saiyan mechanic...I love it. I remember having an absolute blast playing this game as a kid--still do to this day. Also can I just say, I freaking love the character icons, Idk, there's just something about them that makes me happy. It might just be the fact that some characters have extra icons for when they transform, which I find that to be really cool.

[@evprince]

Sometimes a game can just be fun

[@SOULJASTYLE94]

​@@evprince@evenprince hey bro I got a request video that I will want you to do it's about the Dragon Ball games the rest of them to cover the rest of Dragon Ball Budokai Tenkaichi series Dragon Ball burst Limit the Raging Blast series The Xenoverse series Kakarot and Fighters and also Dragon Ball online Dragon Ball Infinity and Dragon Ball Ultimate Tenkaichi in Dragon Ball Battle of Z please also talked about the game mechanics the DLCs the hidden characters the hidden moves the cutscenes the graphics the hidden surprises inside the game all the way coming towards the new Dragon Ball game Dragon Ball sparking zero the new Dragon Ball Tenkaichi 4

[@evprince]

@SOULJASTYLE94 so literally every other major DBZ title, haha. Well, I can tell you for sure that the Tenkaichi games are being worked on now! As for the rest, we'll see!

[@SOULJASTYLE94]

@@evprince thanks my brother because I enjoy your videos and it will really make me happy and this would really be a birthday gift see the rest of them be reviewed and be talked about like how you did in your previous videos on the other Dragon Ball games can't wait to see more of the videos love you going through the history of every Dragon Ball game from the PlayStation 2 PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 Xbox One in PlayStation 4 and also the new current generation of Xbox series s and X and also the PlayStation 5 PC game steam system can't wait to see the videos of the Dragon Ball Budokai Tenkaichi series 1 2 3 and also Dragon Ball infinite World Dragon Ball Z burst Limit Dragon Ball Ultimate Tenkaichi Dragon Ball online Dragon Ball Battle of Z and the Dragon Ball Xenoverse 1 and 2 Series and Dragon Ball Raging Blast 1 and 2 Series can't wait to see those videos that would be a great gift my birthday is on August the 14th but that would be a great gift to see all those games get the history lessons and review and I said that just like how you did with the previous games and help generation understand how fun these games was at the time thank you brother can I add you on Twitter

[@evprince]

@SOULJASTYLE94 no way I can get all that done by August but stick around and there will be more DBZ vids for sure. Twitter is @3vanprince

[@inkchariot6147]

The game has it's own kind of fun, like stun-locking enemies with your friend.

[@NAMEKDENDE]

I loved playing this game with my cousin, we actually played it on Xbox

[@usmnichols8636]

This game was a nice relaxer from putting all my time into Budokai Tenkaichi 2 story mode at the time I love the menu sfx and the music ❤

[@AHMAS_Hotline]

I actually liked this game a lot. It was very reminiscent of Mortal Kombat Shaolin Monks and I really liked that game too.

[@MelloWyatt]

My first DBZ game remeber playing this with my brother on PS2. I got nostalgia for the music lol and really liked the little narrated slide shows between levels

[@feartheoldblood7222]

Look i know its not a good game. But i would be lying if i said i didn't love this game. My little brother and i used to run through the levels as Broly and Bardock. Also the cutscenes are amazing. Narration was so fun.

[@thesadskeletonclub401]

Bardock and Broly mention?! Let's go 🎉

[@Carlinisalive]

I know a lot of people hated this game but i actually enjoy it 😅

[@BlueTyphoon7]

oh it's awful. but in that way that's just so stupidly charming.

[@TVdosPatriotas]

The execution might not have been great, but the idea was. I remember having a blast with this game with my friends. The only DBZ game that tried something similar is Kakarot, but it's more of an RPG than a beat 'em up.

[@dmas7749]

one of the things i loved about this game was comboing into the uppercut, and instead of following it up with the smash, i'd do the kamehameha.

[@kronosert257]

This was the first game I bought myself on the ps2 and it was so much fun. Especially if you had a friend over back in the day. But still fun to play solo. Makes me wanna find a ps2 again and buy my childhood games

[@alexconsoli5599]

I wish they would re-release the Dragon Ball Game Boy Advance games. They were really fun.

[@edgardorios8130]

I was thinking the same thing recently, since I'm currently replaying them. 2 and 3 still holds up.

[@ggyoungnate-_-]

This was one of my only dragon ball games growing up. Love it to death, just wish it could of been WAYY more Fun than what was delivered, but gotta play your Cards no matter what.

[@grutsthefoodman3645]

The first game to finally have future Gohan as a playable character

[@stewhv94]

I remember playing through this game a few times as a kid. I craved Dragon Ball so much that would play anything associated with the franchise, including this and even Taiketsu (ugh, luckily I gave that one up pretty quickly).

[@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734]

Now that you mention it, having a Falcouner influenced soundtrack for a home console DBZ, would be fucking SIC!

[@83jdc1]

I had this game as a kid. While it was never my favorite DBZ game, I remember having fun playing with my friend.

[@gilbertcordova6527]

This game was super hard until you buy one easy combo that can cheese the whole game. The music was sick too

[@MangaDungeon]

I think the reason so many of these games tend to skip Buu is because it would just mean you need to inflate the budget a lot because covering Buu is basically a new game. like between the Saiyan arc and Cell arc we reuse characters a lot, and the only new characters are the villains and Trunks and like... King Kai. Mostly its just the Z fighters and whoever they are fighting. but for Buu we have a lot of new heroes to deal with and some of them have mechanical implications like do you want to have Goten and Trunks or just Gotanks, or do you want Gotanks at all or limit them to a special move, how about Vegito? Will that beg questions about Gogeta? How many Buus do you want? What things do you adapt and what do you skip? Cant forget to make a fresh batch of models for SS3 Goku, Krillian, Dende, Vegeta, probably a few for Gohan and if you do that, do you want to show Goku doing the spirit bomb and credits roll or do the 5 years later thing? If so well now we need more new models for everyone and a Pan and Uub model now.... I think they should do those things. But I can see a developer saying "Ok tell you what... lets just do Saiyan to Cell and if the game sells well we can do Buu"

[@kupokinzyt]

There is something so uncanny about the animations in this game I could never put my finger on, like you were playing as a clay fighter or rubber man or something lol. The limbs always looked like sausages to me and for some reason watching your video brought back so many memories of this lol. I honestly loved this game and was my first ever DBZ game other than Ultimate Battle on PS1

[@SuperKamiGuru831]

One of my favorite things to do in this game was spamming the super moves in the air and using the instant transmission technique basically replicating the instant kamehameha on enemies

[@rockfrosta]

I never understood the hate for sagas. I loved it as a kid and really wished they had made a sequel. They took some chances by changing the gameplay style and that should be respected. Hopefully in future games developers will implement some different gameplay than just arena fighters

[@deiske25952]

I have some nostalgia for thos game since it introduced me to bardock and broly and by extension the movies.

[@nozomashii821]

This was one of my favourite games as a kid and played it with a friend of mine, I gotta say the co-op is always fun and we'd always try to do fun combos. Sometimes it just devolved into spamming blasts, but yknow. We'd particularly play the jeice and burter fight over and over a lot since it was something of a 2 on 2

[@dillynsden]

I will never forget this game (shivers)

[@AMGaming_773]

I think this was my first DBZ game and I loved it it was very fun and idk why people hated it I played it with my cousin and it was amazing and the Gohan vs cell one gave me PTSD it took me 1 or 2 weeks to finish it😅

[@Jairrzz]

Pretty fun 2 player game. If dbz tried a small game mode like this on a main game it’d be pretty dope

[@mrhopadopalus]

I still like playing this game, its in rotation of the games i play when i play my ps2 everyone once in a while

[@tobiasglass7653]

My childhood 😭😭😭

[@FireSonic225]

I remember there being a glitch during the fight between Vegeta and Frieza when Piccolo was arriving. Once it would reach a certain point on the bar up top, Frieza would transform into his second form, but when I played it, the first form stuck around as the second form frieza came in, so I had to fight two friezas at once as Vegeta

[@swempytimes]

Tbh, this game was a good first abridged version of the show to show my friend to get him into it. It worked. The co-op was janky but fun

[@SpiderBen]

Never played this game but I may have to try it out as I definitely have my share of "bad" games that I enjoy. Great Review!

[@atb4255]

Love this new genre of video where people call very notable pieces of media forgotten and/or underrated

[@mindxfuneral]

I logged hours in this game with my brother growing up, and until this video popped up in the recommended, I had COMPLETELY forgotten it existed lol

[@Legomaster561]

lowkey the slide show clip things were my favorite part of the game as a kid. Not having access to the full show I watched those over and over while I drew stuff.

[@Rusty254]

I wonder if the Yardrat mission was meant to be a Bardock mission. Maybe they realized that the space part of his story was too difficult to add in engine or budget didn't allow for it. Then they took what they had already done and put it in a spot that made sense.

[@Kenshiro3rd]

I actually share your feelings on this one. It is not a good game... but lord if I didn't enjoy & have fun with it it. Too few games in this series (ESP At the time) are character action/adventure games. Most were and still are fighting games, or at least centered on it with some other stuff bolted on. I actually appreciated (and still do) the fact that it was more focused on being a Adventure game. Sadly this left the fighting being tacked on. As a 3D Beat Em Up Adventure, Sagas wasn't good... but it at least scratched the itch it set out to. For that reason I have a soft spot for it, despite it being a bad game.

[@34ZAR]

This was one of my favorite games, I was able to play with my brother.

[@ItetsuShikurasa]

I remember getting this game instead of Budokai 3 for my 11th birthday. Those were... interesting times.

[@MikeBreezy94]

MY GUY ANOTHER BANGERRRR

[@James-dq1uy]

I didn't really enjoy this game a lot, but man, am I nostalgic for it's music!

[@AxeManOfSuburbia]

Great review! Love your work. I got this game when it came out and played it co op with a couple friends. Even at the time we recognized it was kinda bad but we had a blast anyway.

[@evprince]

Couldn't agree more!

[@اميركاظم-م2ز]

People say Ultimate Tenkaichi was the worst game (I can’t wait for you to review it) but they never played Sagas and Ohhhh boy it makes UT look like a masterpiece💀

[@dankuradraws4905]

for me this game was the only adventure game that was pretty well-rounded it was almost the equivalent of legacy of Goku but on a top-tier console and games were a different thing back in the day it wasn't always cinematic or always with a serious plot or tone a game could be goofy and still be enjoyed and I actually also had a great time with it

[@paulparker6645]

I remember playing this game to death i think i ran snake way 100 times just cause i thought it was so cool to get to play that part as a kid

[@evprince]

You know, there is no snake way in this game. Which is weird because I feel like I remember that being a part of this game too... but it's not. Which totally threw me for a loop, but whatever game you're thinking of, and I was thinking of before I played this that featured Snake Way, this isn't it.

[@paulparker6645]

@evprince wait WHAT!?? I swear that was a thing huh weird to know that I mixed other games in nostalgia but at least I'm not alone lol

[@MakenaForest]

infinite world

[@kaylo1952]

9:10 Krillin doesn’t appreciate it, love TFS

[@_shinigamieyes]

Sagas gets a lot of hate when it's mentioned. People who say negative comments about it didn't play it 'till the end or didn't play it much to understand the gameplay. This game was super fun since I played it with my younger brother. I recommend it with a friend.

[@EvernhamNo9]

I have PTSD from seeing this box art at the rental store

[@TheGoku6000]

I literally only played this game, cause I got it from blockbuster.

[@alanemocab3465]

Me and my brother have this game. It's my favorite. The prototype androids are my favorite enemies and they should've been in more games.😊

[@Vargles]

I remember renting this and being soo so disappointed after experience Budokai lmao

[@D1n0nlyD1v94]

I heard that the cell saga was originally planned to be the end of the series and that's why it's not in Sagas and other games.

[@kumbi8368]

I loved this game so much as a kid, I played the crap out of it, both single player and coop. And that’s despite the fact that I also had Budokai 1-3. Even though I know it’s not good, if I were to play it again today, I would probably still enjoy myself 😅.

[@monkeysk8er33]

Sagas was phenomenal on release. Does it hold up today, no. But was it a banger at the time? Absolutely. The combat was totally unique for a DBZ game, but was similar to other games at the time. Never had a single bad time with Sagas.

[@1ktharris]

I loved this game back in the day frfr

[@QuantomX64]

I didn't even know this game existed. had I known back then, you bet I'd have tried to get it on my Game Cube

[@ytalextm]

the reason why the characters look bad was because the main artist was oda, who didn't have much time since he was still writing one piece, the music however has never been released officially so nobody knows the actual composer

[@Charles-jj2su]

I enjoyed it as a middle schooler

[@leonance]

Dragon Ball Z SAGAS crawled so DBZ Kakarot could run

[@mrhopadopalus]

I haven't played kakarot but doesn't it play more like xenoverse? I know it's open world but it doesnt just have enemies chasing you down. Right?

[@leonance]

@@mrhopadopalus no it doesn’t but it has enemies that will rush up to you and it will initiate a battle with multiple enemies

[@NathanTG]

I feel like this game got alot of hate because it was Misunderstood. I think this was supposed to be a take on 3D platforming...in a way. Not meant to rival or challenge the Budokai series or be be considered 1 of the flagship gaming IP's for Dragon Ball. What I can't defend the devs on though, is the implentation of the idea of a 3D platformer. A few years later, the release of Dragon Ball: Revenge of King Piccolo showcased how to bring that idea for a DB game to life. But yeah, it is what is. Unfortunately Sagas was a mistake to learn from, So I guess that's the Silver lining of its legacy. I'm sure it was moderately entertaining for some players if they had nothing better to play and had to settle on the bare minimum and overlook alot of bugs and glitches and jank in this game.

[@MemeAlchemist]

Piccolo's ears in his character icon.. that is all.

[@mog-myownbestfriend]

So, *this* is the one game that remembers the Pendulum Room exists as the perfect rematch opportunity? Booo, boo I say!

[@MattCraftDotDerp]

very small thought here but THANK YOU for calling it "Ascended Super Saiyan" instead of "Super Saiyan Second Grade" or "Super Saiyan Grade 2" bc honestly those names are worse than Super Saiyan Blue. 💀

[@MattCraftDotDerp]

AND THE WAY YOU PRONOUNCE "KAMEHAMEHA WAVE" we got a true Dragon Ball fan on our hands here

[@Lordoftherobe]

I remember this on GameCube and remember loving it but also being frustrated with the clunky movement

[@amirgarcia547]

This game might’ve been pretty ass, but it was the first ever DBZ game younger me played due to being the first one released on Xbox, which I owned before a PS2. And so it at least gets bonus points for that.

[@jeremyhall2727]

I hated the bugs & errors in it. Having to reset over & over in boss fights. It was a fun game & i liked yhe combos (if I don't cheese it. Two punches, then stop & repeat will destroy all enemies. It was punches or kcks 🤔). I enjoyed it more after i unlocked everyone. And i wished it was longer or had more modes

[@RasheemMcneal-i5m]

This was fun for its time

[@warpvector]

An action/adventure game set in the Dragon Ball universe is such a missed opportunity but good fuck don't just do the story because the actual manga is 90% boss battles. There's so many timeskips they could have used to tell an original story so that it doesn't feel weird that Goku is running around fighting Saibaman on his way to Raditz.

[@thefinalsmvp420]

This game soundtrack is 🤌💋💯

[@TevyaSmolka]

Yeah I forgot this game was a thing.

[@adamantium4797]

Thats he purpose of a game that you have fun

[@virgyvirgil]

I hope you do the legacy of goku games one day they aren't mind blowing top of the line games but for the time it was a really fun and portable top down arpg made by western devs

[@evprince]

Oh I plan to

[@kumbi8368]

This game has a lot of onlys. To this day it is the only Coop DBZ game, and one of the only DBZ games where you can play as one armed Gohan 😂

[@1flxrist]

Wow I never realized how similar it was to tak gameplay wise

[@windows98alpha35]

The team that made the Tak games made Sagas? I knew the OST sound familiar.

[@MartyAraragi]

I remember the weekend i got this game, Saturday i had an old friends birthday party where i fell and scratched the fuck out of my left knee, i was still bummed out about it Sunday, and my dad took me to walmart and told me to pick out the game i was talking to him about and it was this game, i was maybe 9? Then. I absolutely loved this game. I binge played it that Sunday night. 😂😂😂 got it on Gamecube. I played this a lot back then. And i was surprised learning many years later this was like hated. Yeah it wasnt the best but i just thought the whole like walking thru the story was kinda cool, even tho i hella loved the Budokai games more ofc.

[@hunchoquon60]

Nobody forgot this game bro 😂…and among fans it doesn’t suck. It is an old game. For one. It was super popular at the time. For 2. Only non actual fans don’t like it.

[@iamthetruth21]

Gotta sub , another peak vid 🔥🤝

[@Darkcranio]

Honestly if they just made the animations not like they shat their pants I'd love it a tons more.

[@xonact8855]

Idk where people keep getting this, but Bardock is not a movie character. It's a TV special, not a movie

[@xbon1]

i remember liking this but i think it was too hard for me to beat even though i was min-maxing tf out of budokai tenkaichi 3 and older games

[@DirtySouth-om7zj]

I couldn’t find the capsule I was such a noob when I was a kid so I didn’t get too far unfortunately

[@LostBoy1920]

Glad to see Sagas getting some love. I can agree that objectively the game sucks ass, same goes for Battle 22, but Battle 22 was my first DBZ game and Sagas was my third (GC) and the coop was fun as hell and despite the rightfully negative consensus towards both of them, I honestly do love these two games so much

[@KingdomHeart556]

Co op was the only positive thing about this game. And Broly.

[@DiamondDa1yak0]

This game needs a remake of sorts.

[@SOULJASTYLE94]

@evenprince hey bro I got a request video that I will want you to do it's about the Dragon Ball games the rest of them to cover the rest of Dragon Ball Budokai Tenkaichi series Dragon Ball burst Limit the Raging Blast series The Xenoverse series Kakarot and Fighters and also Dragon Ball online Dragon Ball Infinity and Dragon Ball Ultimate Tenkaichi in Dragon Ball Battle of Z please also talked about the game mechanics the DLCs the hidden characters the hidden moves the cutscenes the graphics the hidden surprises inside the game all the way coming towards the new Dragon Ball game Dragon Ball sparking zero the new Dragon Ball Tenkaichi 4

[@E3istheg]

Can you do infinite world next!!!

[@evprince]

I'm doing the Tenkaichi games, and then I'm doing that one!

[@meppledude6874]

Maybe it’s just me, but the characters’ fighting movements seem zesty