eWelink Offline mode and Q&A

[@BobF510]

A goldmine of information here. A corresponding book I read was nothing short of transformative. "A Life Unplugged: Reclaiming Reality in a Digital Age" by Theodore Blaze

[@raymondpaenga9027]

OK remove all divice for app, clear cache and data because this will mean you can start again, uninstall app, reinstall app, add your divice you wish to use, it is all working for me because you and others help me understand you need to remove all information your divice has, I love you and every one for helping me to understand this is grate I don't make youtube videos so I love you guys girls you are so amazing

[@tonychantun]

many thanks for your clear explanations, I will use my device as a clock for the pool swimming pool thanks to your video

[@kekersdev]

Sonoff basic doesn't work wo internet connection for me

[@superguitar6355]

I wanted to know if it is possible to connect the sonfoff 4CH pro to a mini doorbell and configure it so that the app sends a notification when it is activated, for example? Or does Sonof only have an on and off function and I would have to use esp?

[@csongorvarga]

The CH4 Pro does not have inputs, so it will not work for you. Maybe you could use a mini and connect the bell to the switch input and it will be an event like if somebody turn a lightswitch on. But it is not straight forward, check the wiring.

[@giskio]

What can i say... Thanks for your time and knowledge🤯

[@aircvr4175]

Is eWelink having server problems (July 19, 2020)? They aren't sending out new passwords for the app and my device is listed as offline as if I don't have internet (but here I am online on youtube!).

[@sanyibarati]

Szia. Mi lehet a baj hogy a készülékem csak akkor müködik ha wifin van a telefon. Ha mobilneten vagyok azt írja offline. Illetve mindegy mobilnet vagy wifin van e a telefon nemengedi frissiteni az újjab verzióra. Azt írja ki hogy offline. Tudnál benne segiteni?

[@csongorvarga]

Uh, sajnos tippem sincs. És amikor otthon a wifin vagy akkor van internet a telefonon? Nem lehet hogy megy a wifi csak éppen internet kapcsolat nincsen?

[@thatnoone]

i think you should go out the app after going offline to see if the app will load & ask for a connection

[@igorfomenko9189]

Sonoff zeegbee are very unstable, zeegbee bridge becomes unavailable once a month and plugs with activated loop timer skip on or off event once a week or even more often, this is unacceptable and dangerous for my neighbours.

[@imran0721]

Hi, Thanks for the videos. I have two questions please. 1) can the timer be used for something which needs to switch on for few seconds after every 5 min? I believe it has to be done by looping? (2) I am in a place where power failure is regular event and I need to keep a pump for my Aeroponic plants. Once programmed, if there is power loss and restarted without WiFi while pump is on battery/generator backup, should the program be running the pump as programmed before the power failure?

[@troy3456789]

I live in a small town, and sometimes the ISP cable internet goes down. With earlier versions of the software, it would allow me to control the devices in offline mode (with no internet connection to the outside world). Now, I have version 4.2.1 for Android, and firmware version 3.4.1 on my basic switches. When my internet went down today, I wanted to power up a device (while my phone was connected to my router's wifi)- but all devices were offline, even though I have LAN mode enabled.

[@shiiko1]

It's good to know that at some point it usted to work that way, I saw a lot of people complaining about some pay issues. I'm thinking ewelink are going to add the "no internet, still working" feature as a premium feature.

[@TechLifeLabWorld]

Wich version your Ewelink app used to work without internet connection? I'm trying to download the apk and use because if I open the app without internet, the devices do not appear in the screen to be controlled. When the internet goes down and the app is already opened, works very well but when I need to open the app, I can't find my devices...

[@troy3456789]

@@TechLifeLabWorld it was a version from two years ago. I don't know if I could even find it to download and install it. There was an offline mode you could select back then. I wasn't aware one of the software updates would remove the ability to control the device from my router's wifi with no internet because it wasn't listed in the notes. It seriously ticked me off, because I needed to control a device we use when internet is off.

[@TechLifeLabWorld]

​@@troy3456789 If you do a little quick search, you can find the old versions to be downloaded... But after spending some time and effort tryting to solve this problem, I decided to change the firmware to Tasmota. i hope that it will solve my problems, because i don't like to be dependent of this awful app full of spam...

[@ekm5898]

Just what I was looking for. What was your resolve on this? Would like to buy some switches for my home but need to get everything right.

[@EsotericArctos]

Using the eWelink account and App goes out to the cloud regardless of WiFi or 4G when using the default setup.

[@albertoong2262]

Hi, thank you for the video. I kinda have a situation, my sonoff already connected with the wifi and my phone. I can use google assistant to turn on and turn off the device, but the thing is that even if i turn it off manually or with voice control the electricity still came in. I use it to control my desk lamp, so when i turn it off my desk lamp is still on. Any idea what is going on? Thanks

[@smartelectricsolutions7970]

thank's for the videos but the most important questions is the scenario or schedule didn't work offline

[@csongorvarga]

Schedume does, scene does not

[@wenezzar]

Hi, does the timer settings still work if your wifi router is turned off?

[@csongorvarga]

Yes, it works.

[@ivanvanderkamp7365]

@@csongorvarga How is that possible? I thought the device was always ¨receiving¨the data from the internet :-)

[@csongorvarga]

@@ivanvanderkamp7365 Some settings like the schedules, inching, power on state are stored on the device.

[@batabaka]

@@csongorvarga does the 'Scene' also stored on the device? because the schedules are very limited.

[@msevera1]

Hello. What means small icon on the right side of each item on display? Looks like WIFI connected/disconnected, but what means the LAN symbol (or what is it)?

[@csongorvarga]

The LAN symbol means that the phone controls the device locally. If your internet connection goes down you can still control the device over your home network.

[@Oli-769]

Hi, I want to use the sonoff rf bridge with few pir ( motion) sensors . Did they work without internet ? Also the app will send push notifications to my phone ( no internet) ? You have any ideea, what is the delay between sensor detection and te push notification? Thanks !!

[@csongorvarga]

I don't think it will work without the internet. I did not test it. The notification usually arrive in 1-2 seconds, but it is not garanteed, so there could be a delay.

[@Oli-769]

@@csongorvarga Do you have any ideea, I want to use the pir sensor ( any sensor) with the phone offline ( the best) , I don't 3g/4g good connection all the time.

[@csongorvarga]

@@Oli-769 sorry, I have no idea.

[@alandavies4977]

Hi can you tell me if I can program a th16 to switch on at 12pm everyday then do a loop timer (on for 30 mins off for 45mins continually until 10pm and stays off until next day. Also in the meantime the thermostat switches on at a temp of 36 degrees c and off at 40 degrees only between the hrs of 12pm until 10 pm. Ever time I set a scene the loop timer takes over still and carrys on switching on and off thanks alan

[@csongorvarga]

Yes, that is correct. You either have loop timer, or the schedules. They do not work in conjunction with each other. I suggest to use the schedules only. Set all the times when you want to relay to turn on, and configure the inching to 30 minutes and that will turn it off after 30 minutes. And of course do not add schedule during the period where you don't need it.

[@dickson7735]

I have 2 question 1) If I set one relay in self locking and one in inching mode ...after that disconnect from WiFi and use RF remote will it still work as per set mode ? 2) following up from the first question ...if sudden power off(while WiFi still disconnected) the relay mode still be this same ? My plan is to set it up in my vehicle

[@csongorvarga]

There is a power on state for these relays, so they can be on, off or go back to the same state they were last in. But I have to admit I don't know how it works in self locking mode.

[@thatnoone]

can you do the same for the zigbee devices? thanks

[@imvedik]

Will Timer still work if Internet is gone?

[@csongorvarga]

Yes, timer and schedule will work when the device is offline.

[@victorO50]

The new version of eWeLink doesn't work offline it seems

[@csongorvarga]

Damn, that was such a good feature..

[@wilbertng]

Do you mean just the R3? R2 and older models can still work offline? Or do you mean the eWelink App itself? Are there any press release or test about this subject? Can Sonoff just remove an important feature and will this affect all those who upgrade their plug's Firmware or App version?

[@csongorvarga]

@@wilbertng SOrry, I did not check it now, but I assume it either works for all or for none. I did not read a press release, but I assume they just remove and re-model features from time to time. Earlier there was an option in the scenes to send a message. That is not available any more.

[@wilbertng]

@@csongorvarga Oh, thanks for that info. I just stuck with the TP-Link Tapo plugs since I think they are almost the same. No more offline LAN Control mode.

[@Sebijr]

Hi, great video. It answered a question I had about being able to use the sonoff with no active connection. Could you give me a hint on how to set up my android so it could stayed connected to the LAN when there is no active connection ? Thank you very much !

[@felipevg0261]

Hello again.. I have a 3 gang Sonoff switch. The first and third channels works with Google Assistant. The second channels doesn't work with Google Assistant. It says something like "It's seems like the device is not configured yet". This switch works fine with the ewelink app.. Any idea what can be the problem. Thanks.

[@csongorvarga]

Best if check how it looks in the Home app. Does is show gang 2 there? That is have the same name? If you don't see all the lights/gangs in the Home app maybe you can remove the eWelink account from Home and add it back again. Maybe that device was not correctly synced, it is missing or just appears under a different name. Hard to tell without seeing it.

[@JoseAguia]

If my wifi/lan/hotspot/network fails, can the Sonoff TX wall switchs work offline, like a normal mechanic/tradicional light switch? Or will i be in dark ???

[@csongorvarga]

Yes, local switching will always work. So you are going to be OK. Even inching settings, scheduled will work. Only the scenes will not.

[@JoseAguia]

@@csongorvarga I'm in a crossroad, either buy several at about 25€/each(in the worst case scenario and without any promos/discounts), or go the old way with mechanical and inside the wall, either use Shelly or Sonoff mini. In the end the investiment will be about the same. But i realy like the look of the TX and the "plug&play" because with mechanical i will need to dismount the switch to attach the "brains". If you were building a house from zero, would you put TX or mechanical with shelly or sonoff mini behind? And for blinders what do you recomend?

[@abobobo943]

Thank you very much sir.

[@adamoryza]

Nice review. I have one question, when the internet is disconnected, the device is controllable using app. But When I lose internet and then close ewelink app, then open the app again, the device not loaded. Do you have siggestions? For me the app still need internet to initiate device list. After that internet is not necessary if we activate LAN mode.

[@rikenrock4120]

I have question, what if sonoff used to turn off the wifi it's connected to, can it automatically turn itself on without any connection at all, and connected itself to the connection? Thx before!

[@csongorvarga]

I am not sure what you mean. If it looses internet connection, the button on the device will still work. And if the internet comes back it will connect automatically.

[@henryoswick4732]

I have the same general question. I want to use a device to power cycle my modem in the middle of the night. Wifi will stay active but no internet access. Are the timer functions saved to the device itself or based in the cloud? Example: Using schedule 0359 - Mini turns OFF (modem loses power, no internet connection) 0400 - Mini turns ON I want the modem to reset while we are sleeping

[@csongorvarga]

@@henryoswick4732 Yes, the schedules are stored on the device. This application will work just fine.

[@hishamal-khalfawi8316]

Is there a way to detect if a certain device is offline and activate scenes based on that device availability?

[@csongorvarga]

Unfortunately not. There is an Offline Notification option in the settings, but that is not available in scenes.

[@Catalysis1144]

Thanks for the video .. I have light switches using it turn ON outdoor lights by sunset and off by midnight but in several occasions internet connection get lost and all outdoor lights stays ON for 24hrs till I realize it is working. Can you recommend a light switch that can handle schedules locally the only thing am looking for is this simple ON at sunset and off by mid night.

[@csongorvarga]

What you store in the schedules of any Sonoff is actually stored locally on the device. So that will turn your lights off. But the schedules cannot do sunset just a specific time. So I suggest to use the existing sunset routine and set a scheduled off on the device. So it will turn off regardless if you have network or not. Maybe set at 0:00 and also 1:00 to be on the safe side. The only thing to keep in mind, that these devices do not store time. So if there is a power outage, the internal time resets to midnight and will not get synced to the real time unless they can reconnect back to the internet. So the 1:00 schedule will turn them off eventually.

[@Catalysis1144]

@@csongorvarga Thanks a lot for your reply .. The one I currently have is not Sonoff just a generic wifi switch from aliexpress does not have a brand name. I don't think it stores anything on the switch it only depends on the cloud because I set it to go OFF by 23:30 and it does not switch off if internet gets disconnected around that time. Very good point of having 2 OFF settings with time offset I didn't know this is doable. Thanks again!

[@achoudhury2654]

Hi mate, changed router and now all smart switches have gone offline and cannot get back live....smart bulbs are fine so defo on 2.4ghz. can you help at all?

[@csongorvarga]

Uh that is tough. I never changed a router before. Maybe even though the SSID and the password is the same, it still not able to connect to it. Have you tried re-pairing one of them?

[@achoudhury2654]

Hi mate, yep. Deleted them all to re-pair and connects but stays offline. Don't know what to do

[@holijames82]

Will the automation work if the local internet is down but still have wifi connection?

[@csongorvarga]

If your devices cant access the internet, automations will not work. Only what you set on the device: schedules, inching

[@bm830810]

A technical question, How can the app find the ip of the sonoff on the local network when the internet is off?

[@bm830810]

Do sonoffs send their local ip to server and the server sends them back to app? so in this case if you dont have any internet connection after sonoff power on you cant control them locally. Or does the app search the whole ip range of the local network to find the sonoffs?

[@csongorvarga]

That is a good question, but I have no idea. What I seen in other systems that the clients (sonoff device) leave a port open and the app can scans all devices on that port and identify the devices. Or the app sends a broadcast message and waits for the clients to respond. This is probably why it takes 20-30 seconds for all the devices to appear in LAN mode when the internet is lost.

[@bm830810]

@@csongorvarga Good presentations by you triggers curiosity

[@MihataTV]

I think that use SSDP.

[@bm830810]

@@MihataTV thanks, I looked it up, there is so little information about this but it seems possible, also there is and esp8266 library for this, much appreciated if you have more info on this

[@daromee]

Good evening Seems that my Ewelink is disconnected from my google voice control ,while it still works the voice is saying that there is an error .when I tell googled sync my devices it says that there is an error in connection to eweelink ? Do you have any idea of what is going on ? Be well.

[@csongorvarga]

I am not sure. I was making some recordings yesterday and I wanted to demonstrate Google Home integration with new products and it did not work for me. Be a temporary issue.

[@daromee]

@@csongorvarga Thanks for th swift response

[@dertiminbo12234]

Hello. Can you help me with my T16 Sonoff, problem is refreshing time data betwen sensor in T16 and app. Can we edit that refresh time to 5 sec or lowe? because i need to use it in temperature and humidity precisse setup. PS Which version of app is best (probably last ) but sometimes we have bugs etc Th!nks

[@csongorvarga]

No you can't. There is no way of changing the sensor update interval.

[@dertiminbo12234]

@@csongorvarga Thank you for answer. For me that is big negative side of this great device, you cant use it to control temperature of heating element in house etc for me is usseles if i dont know realtime temperature or if i !m dont 100% sure which temp is current. Can anyone recomendent me maybe unofficial app for this device, which works better than Ewelink. Thanks

[@csongorvarga]

@@dertiminbo12234 This was designed for room temperature monitoring. It does not change as frequently that would require more frequent update. There is no unofficial app for eWelink. It is a closed system, you can only use that and nothing else. There are alternative firmware like Tasmota that you can install on the Sonoff TH. That will make it independent from eWelink, but that also means you need an entire supporting system to receive the readings, control it as it will not work with eWelink any more.

[@dertiminbo12234]

@@csongorvargaHi Varga. I like the options in eWelink app , i like the option to control stuff in my house with phone, i like the easy way of that but will be perfect to have something reliably to put example into water heating system or room heating system (what is bean point of my buying) and control it, in my case TH16 is not very reably in readings current temperature in any way,, we are playing wih dangerous stuff. I am not sure can i use it tomorow in flor heating system. Can you say me in which case you using TH10 or TH16 and which option? Thanks in any case Tasmota is not easy way for me, i am more into Miapp and their products

[@csongorvarga]

@@dertiminbo12234 TH10 has a 10A relay, TH16 has a 16A relay. Otherwise they are the same. Still, I don't think you need more frequent update for a floor heating system.

[@zhuk462]

sonoff does not support pure offline. i.e. sonoff must be controlled externally - via Internet or LAN. There is the only option to make it work offline is to use alternative firmware.

[@csongorvarga]

Offline I meant that if your internet connection is down, but your home wifi is still working. In that case you can control them, as the video shows.

[@aeiou07734]

inching still working or not?

[@csongorvarga]

Yes, still working.

[@sardarsmartelectricalsolut4809]

Thanks share more info

[@UnknownPerson007]

Thanks u r best

[@guillebizz6213]

Don’t buy sonoff, If you share a sonoff device, for example to your wife, she s unable to create scenes. Never could use a voice assistance. it's ridiculous, funny.

[@georgegeorge899]

Lame ex...

[@fotiskanellopoulos]

When I kill the internet the eWelink App will not connect to my Sonoffs BasicR2. They are all on the same wifi network of course but it seems that the app will not connect to them. Latest version every item (sonoff devices and app) do you have any clues on that ?