Ex Blizzard GM reveals everything.. and it's heartbreaking

[@dudegoodman]

I was 18 when WoW dropped. I behaved like I was 11. One day, in Tanaris, all of a sudden my Dwarf Paladin was teleported to the top of a small hill. There in front of me was a human male character with the tag . He told me that my behavior was erratic and undesirable. And that if I continued along this path that I wouldn't be playing WoW for very long. And before I could reply, he asked me if everything was okay at home, and if I needed to talk to anyone. I didn't have anything particularly bad going on in my home life, I was just an edgy and immature punk kid. We talked for maybe 10-15 minutes. He was kind but serious, and when I reflect on this now, 20 years later, it makes me kind of emotional, because I did change the way that I interacted with others from that point on. Not because of fear of punishment but because someone actually cared enough to give me a second chance. He used that word a few times and it stuck. I think this GM could see (by my chat logs I assume) that I wasn't only a douchey kid, but someone who needed a real adult to tell him that the way he was behaving wasn't normal. Thanks for giving a shit, GM.

[@sirflimflam]

Way less impactful but I also had a GM experience in tanaris back in the vanilla days (I was sniping people in gadgetzan as a mage on the rooftops after they changed the policy about exploiting guard pathing in towns) and a gm started off pretty strong like "knock it off or I'll knock you off." I remember as the interaction was ending he's like "be a good sport, man. sure it might be fun to kill low level characters for a brief moment but what are you really accomplishing putting your effort into that?" In the moment I wasn't really taking to heart what he was saying, but I've come back to that interaction a few times in my life when I felt like I'm wasting my time doing something, and it kinda motivated me to step up and move on to better things. Gm's are people too. Many of them were trying to be helpful. Sometimes they don't realize the impact they're actually going to have. I wish I remembered that GM's name because as weird as it is he/she had a pretty big impact on some key events in my life.

[@VegetoStevieD]

"erratic and undesirable" I'm curious about what that means.

[@TWEAKLET]

@@VegetoStevieD considering he mentioned chat logs probably more like an old COD chatroom

[@dustincooper7181]

Love your story bro

[@shakalpro]

Good old days when ppl took time to "correct" the behavior of an other human and not "gaslighting" , just giving moral advice. Thx for sharing the story!

[@danbrown4193]

the absolute worst decision blizzard ever made was eliminating live gms. not just from botting perspective, but anyone who has played long term and had interactions with them loved it.

[@Vigor8]

From their pockets pov they probably disagree

[@danbrown4193]

@Vigor8 facts LoL

[@jakeeb2441]

They could literally just give free play time to regular high community honor players to GM and not lose too much $$$

[@jinglemyberries866]

That is true, I remember my GM interactions and they were such a cool experience.

[@Sqied]

​@@Vigor8probably would save them money tbh

[@fritzschnitzmueller3768]

The "Can I have free gold" ticket for sure is troll, but if you ask nicely you can actually ask for gametime. I did that a few times when I was still a poor student and always got a few days or even a week for free

[@_Travey]

That’s actually really cool haha

[@tomebundalevski1872]

Can confirm this, blizz ended up giving 1-2 months in total after multiple times :D back in MoP...😊

[@dylanwright6632]

@@tomebundalevski1872Doesn't happen nowadays, everything is automated responses until you get to an actual person who just claims they can't help you. Customer support is pretty much gone.

[@TheJakebriscoe]

That’s badass

[@sirflimflam]

I was a real idiot. I learned pretty early on (may/june 2005ish) if you put in a debit card without enough money in it, Blizzard would immediately activate your account again for 24 hours, realize the transaction didn't go through, and would then deactivate your account again. There were some weeks where I was doing it every day because I didn't have the cash to play. All it would do was put a hold on $1 for 24 hours, and then reset. I'm honestly amazed Blizzard didn't ban me for it. I'd probably milked a couple months doing it over the course of vanilla. I would have had no argument if they did. It could have gone south so many way, either getting banned, or my bank letting the transaction through and overdrafting me. I was just a poor 19 year old at the time.

[@TheLiquidPepper]

The reason Blizzard does not have as good customer service is no doubt that they no longer have to. The world has moved on from that time. Companies do not hire people to do customer service if they can get away with a FAQ and an automated service. The "free gold" message is not something that would bother a GM. They would just reply "no" and close the ticket.

[@sakaraist]

nah they'd always respond, at least back in the first few years. If you made a ticket for free gold you'd get a couple paragraphs being like no, but here's a few spots I know of that you can farm at and some cheesy RP joke.

[@HealerMommy1]

this very wrong i was banned for months for a addon TRP cause it had erotic elements in my characters backstory they care more about this crap then RMT/Botters/Hackers its sad really

[@quannguyen-op1ur]

Find me a game with better Customer Service than Blizzard. Blizz customer service is not the best or perfect however the way they reply and how fast they respond can be considered as the best service in the gaming industry. I have played so many games from indie / small dev to big one, no company has the better service compare to Blizz. Other dev might take at least 24hr to 48 hr to repond to your problem but for Blizz it only takes 2 hour tops. I live in Vietnam and normally I write a ticket in a ridiculous time and they still respond within an hour or two.

[@TheLiquidPepper]

@@quannguyen-op1ur Perhaps you did not notice, but I said "as good", with an implied "any more" at the end. And sure, I agree, there is not much of customer service in gaming, and Blizzard really was best. But then, they also invented gaming for a paid subscription. So maybe they should be the best.

[@Nexidal]

43:00 They can't force you to leave and keep your belongings, even if they promise to send them later, without your consent. If they try it call the police, it's illegal for them to withhold your property in that manner. I had a former coworker who had to do this when our terrible boss at the time fired him. The police showed up and brought him back inside the building to let him get his things while the manager was allowed to watch.

[@joshclark2274]

My Best interaction with a GM. Many. Many years ago. It was probably 3 months before the release of TBC. My account was hacked. I had taken a week off playing WoW, and came back to discover. All my items were sold. Absolutely everything. My bank emptied alongside my alts. And the gold farmer who had hacked my account,, had spent the week mining nodes to flood the AH with a bunch of cheap ores. The gold farmer, had not sent any of the gold he had farmed to any alternate account. So I was left with a naked character, inventory full of ores, AH full of ores. And a LOT of gold. I was a raider and one of the Main tanks for our guild. And so understandably wanted my Wrath Gear back. I put all of the ores in my characters inventory on the AH. And proceeded to open a ticket. The GM. Very kindly. Managed to give me back ALL of the items the Gold farmer had sold. Including the items he sold on the AH........ Which included all of the ores...... And surprisingly, the Gold they had acquired on my character remained. The Net profit I gained from being able to sell all the ores on the AH again made me one of the richest individuals on Zenedar - EU and had me absolutely rolling in money come TBC release. My interactions with GMs have been nothing but fantastic in my experience. Knowing its an actual person talking to you goes a looong way to cementing a positive customer service relationship.

[@shakalpro]

I had same issue, account got hacked, i made a ticket, it took 24-36 hours to be replied and got 2 options, rollback to a certain date or continue as I were. I was 56-58, gained a lvl or 2 while waited on ticket, so I option 2 was best choice in my eyes. Not all GMs were the same. Nice story btw ^^ Golden Age of Gaming is over man ... I remember Half-Life 1 and 2 community .... Mod community was insane and freeee!!! Damn i miss those days.

[@AlphaGripper]

A week farming low level ore made you one of the richest players on your server? K

[@zeritho6073]

Back in the days over 10 year ago I had a male gnome mage that I did plan to make a faction transfer to undead mage female. For some reason the faction change screwed up and I remained a gnome but I changed the name. I changed my name to "Witchbit%h" and ran around for a couple of weeks as a gnome male mage named "Witchbit%h". Then I wrote a ticket to a GM saying that I believe people took offence of my name and asked for a name changed. But to be honest I just regreted my name decision. I got the name change for free. Good days!

[@dannysabbath2562]

100% got in trouble when I was young and made a character called Kneegrow. They did not appreciate it.

[@gamertyper6476]

I remember being too poor to play WoW when I was a kid and would use the free trials - when they would expire I would beg the support for more free trial time and they always granted it to me. I could only play til level 20 and do very limited stuff, but it was the best. I didn't know it at the time, but those people that I would beg for more free trial time actually gave a shit. I miss the world we lived in, it was beautiful.

[@Heinous_tv]

My account got hacked back in wrath. However I was like 12 and had trouble leveling so before I got my account back my brother told me to wait and see if they would level my death knight to 80 for me. I was level 76 at the time of the hacking. My brother and I played on the same server Azshara NA horde, so he went and found my character being botted killing beasts for skinning and mining nodes. Eventually my character hit 80 and they even geared my dk out in season 6 pvp gear costed honor points, as well as geared me out in some heroic gear/frost emblem items. Eventually got my account back maybe like 1 month later and I got to keep everything including the 25k gold they farmed.

[@mattmead1860]

Had my account nabbed back in wrath. Nothing like seeing your own char run from the bank to the mailbox repeatedly. After a week to so a GM helped me get it back. I was already max Level but My bags were loaded with titanium ore (when it was actually worth something). Decent trade off lol

[@wonderduck2345]

I remember coming home from work in TBC to hop on my warlock that was t4/t5 geared. Logged on and ALL my characters, my warrior, my warlock, my hunter, my shaman. All naked. I then immediately logged on the blizzard website, changed all my passwords. I logged on my warlock and she was in a shadowlabs run, inventory FULL of gems, boe blue's, epics, patterns etc. I petitioned a GM and they said they could restore it through the mailbox and to keep everything my lock had. After i had all my equipment back, i sold all the extra and ended up with 50-100k+ gold not to mention all the random extra stuff they mailed me that i had either looted or found at some point in time, trash greens, cloth, blue's etc. It sucked, but blizzard made up for it. Don't think that'd happen nowadays.

[@randymai4646]

In 2012 my call center got a questionnaire. It was from blizzard. Most if not all didn't know what it was but me and a buddy did. All I wanted was to be a GM. It never did happen but I can still dream

[@BrofessorBox]

His response to severity 0 chat violations "they turned off the language filter" should be the answer to EVERY chat violation ever.

[@Sas-ym4gg]

You can say a lot of messed up stuff without cursing. It’s only a profanity filter, not a psycho filter.

[@BrofessorBox]

@@Sas-ym4gg Yup, and there is an ignore button too. Don't like what you read, use the ignore button.

[@ashamane]

53:00 he actually stated he DID do his job too; he met their metrics. This was that "above and beyond" that people crave in employees now lol.

[@mychchevelle72ss]

blizz dont give a single F. they just care about the $ never gonna change

[@vagrantknights]

If anyone asks a GM for gold, they should instantly fill every bag and bank slot they have with unsellable, soulbound garbage items that they have to individually click and drag to destroy

[@Yummicookie1979]

😂😂😂 They'd only do it once!

[@shawntropilis4558]

This is the best fkin response that could happen lmao!

[@charity_ch]

Speaking of the Arcanite Ripper. I also had a compromised account situation. The GM that had my ticket had told me they couldn't restore it. But for whatever reason, made an exception and quietly gave me one anyway. Even gave me a little shush message about it lol. This is more about some GMs back in the day being cool, and doing a little extra for the playerbase*. I miss those days.

[@Kaylashton]

Hey in all DEFENSE of the quest thing. I've had some quests bug out or straight up not exist and because it was a main story quest. I was stuck waiting until a GM helped resolve the issue if it was item or NPC related. Especially now that they're phasing you as you complete quests.

[@steeltoffees]

46:30, that 2-week's notice is by no means required. Workers should never give it, work until you no longer intend to and then quit. Far too often (and especially with bigger corporations that already have the horrible reputation) the company will do whatever they can to hold back as much benefits and pay to the worker as they can over those 2 weeks. You don't owe the corporation anything, just quit when you intend to quit.

[@moonhaewon6689]

out of all companies, blizzard is for sure not the one that will bring back people to work there instead of automized support.

[@DigitalAugur]

at my 24 i was totaly broke and it was my birthday and i asked a gm to offer me 14 days free to play the game and he accepted. He probably spared me a heavy depression at the time

[@traviscue2099]

Go to Turtle WoW/Ascension ect any big private server and they ban bots and gold selling. If private servers can easily do this, Blizzard are either incompetent or are actively ignoring an issue they know about. Gold selling used to be a big issue on private servers, now it doesn't exist.

[@xM2theA2theXx]

Yeah the admin used to sell gold themselves, but blizzard shut that shit down hard

[@VegetoStevieD]

Turtle is good in a lot of ways, but it's also overrated in some ways too.

[@A_Goat]

That's quite a difference though. These private servers, although some are quite alive, they have a peak of 5-6 thousand, while the real game has millions, aswell as several game modes and upcoming contents. It's self explanatory why it's so easy for private servers to manage. These servers are also free to play so the dev gains nothing from botters, it only annoys their players. While blizzard does gain from botters and they supply the player base with materials. So their view of them is entirely different than some random guy who runs a free to play private server.

[@traviscue2099]

@A_Goat The private servers have well over 1 million players if you add them all up.. but they used to have bots/goldselling issues. Nostralious had a big issue back in the day.. But that's my argument, if these smaller servers can do it, why can't a massive company? Blizzard have the resources to do it.. they just choose not to do anything about it.

[@A_Goat]

@traviscue2099 Yeah, private servers as a whole have made up over a million players across their entire life span, for sure, but most of which did not remain active, while Blizzard has that same number in just daily users but a drastically larger 130 million active players on top of that. Even the biggest server you mention, Nostalrius peaked at 10k. 10k daily vs 1.3million daily. Surely it's easier to manage the first and not the latter. Nost was also a single server realm, while the real game has many servers across each and every expansion, re release and seasonal mode. The load to manage is not even comparable. Not disagreeing with you, just don't think this is a fair equivalent. Blizzard certainly could do better.

[@RatKirby]

I've worked both customer support (for a large retailer) and tech support (for a software dev company) and anyone that thinks KPIs are the way to go has no idea what they're doing. KPIs undermine the quality of support as well as many factors that affect the time needed for larger tickets.

[@Ragemonster69420]

i remember in wotlk someone managed to hack my account. my uncle was on playing and saw my account log in but i was at school. he immediately logged into my account and every character was naked and all my gold was gone. got everything back via GM that same day but it fuckin sucked cus it was raid night and i had to miss that raid

[@PeterPan-wi7dd]

During Christmas in Legion times, a GM upgraded me to the deluxe edition after helping me with a ticket.

[@Septemberl4d]

18:00 Nah viewcount isn't a great indicator of how well you are doing as a streamer at all. That would be like talking about how popular a road is by how much traffic is on it every day. There are just too many factors which can fluctuate how the count works. Maybe someone dropped in before work to see how the stream is going, maybe they are going to get dinner and can't have the stream on, they have an appointment, need to sleep, feel sick. There are many reasons other than "stream is boring" which cause click off. If you let that sort of stuff impact you then you will just have stream anxiety all the time.

[@Whytho2000]

Man I remember talking to a GM when I was like 12, and he gave me back 40g because someone scammed it off of me. I for sure shouldnt have gotten it back, but they got it back for me. I felt so safe after that.

[@Ant-fq3yi]

I had a GM pull me to GM island and help me out when my account got hacked before authentication was cool they restored everything.

[@DoomVeX]

As someone who worked in a similar environment. I can tell you that a live view count is no way near that stressful, when you stream, you go at your own pace.

[@JoeMcCann-lt4jj]

Ive accidentally abandoned an important quest into a new xpac and it glitched to where i couldnt get it back without gm support. so yeah, i hit up a gm to help with a quest.

[@soklot]

I glitched onto the top of Ironforge bank (Through climbing the mountain like you used to) and killed people for hours. GM spawned and said I had to stop doing that and offered to teleport me to safety. I declined of course and said I would fight to the death. He later kneeled before my corpse in respect.

[@coyoteink]

During wrath i learned my guildie and friend was a gm, they proved it without a doubt to me. I used to openly talk in guild chat about wanting to buy gold but could not afford it when i was young, only to find out years later that most of the guild was populated by GMs and people who worked at blizzard lol. I honestly think im on a watch list so ive never bought gold or eff all lol.

[@JayJay-qu5oo]

This video is like going for a long walk down a windy beach to a cafe that was closed.

[@Leonjrxx]

My account got ''zombied'' before, I had quit for maybe a year or something, and decided to resub, to find my character with 300 mining and tons of ore in his bags. I must have gotten lucky and resubbed while it was still being used to either bot or just farm. First time I ever had a max profession at the time as well lol

[@magnushaveland2526]

Wow has an insane botting problem. On anniversary right now I can find bots in most zones. If they wanted to they could probably shut it down, as it ruins the server economy and creates gold bloat since everyone just starts buying gold. I think they only put effort into things that creates money.

[@shawntropilis4558]

You should watch the 3m dollar botting mafia about wow, newish video

[@shawntropilis4558]

They aren’t even mostly on wow but other games

[@l337pwnage]

I wouldn't say "blizz don't care", the problem is not enough players care. Blizz is gonna respond to what the majority of players do. I find that some players care about bots, some content creators do anti-bot content, but when I point out bots to people, most seem to not really care or they don't respond like they do.

[@rohleek5939]

I ve had gm in wow classic couple years ago showing while i was in dungeon, he waited till we killed the boss and than told me to log out so he can fix my issue with warlock quest not giving me my items, so i didnt had my soul bag :D it was best couple minutes in all the years playing wow for me, and the group :)

[@yewknight]

29:26 as a software engineer, this absolutely is not an impossibility.

[@majorpanek35]

I still remember my friend getting fired for teleporting two of our friends up to Alcatraz in TBC

[@xRip666x]

The interactions I've had with proper GM's over the years have felt like I was in the presence of a God. The way they "spoke" and the things they sorted out for me was amazing

[@stevenpitera8978]

at will states in USA goes both ways. But you do lose potential references if you chose to just quit in a day. It varies per state though.

[@modemkabel]

I also got a Keylogger. Couldnt get rid of it. Got my Stuff Back, changed the Password with a Monitor Keyboard, Put it in txt File and then Ctrl + v it from there on. xD

[@GarDenofThieves]

Man, i feel VINDICATED by that shoe wearing method. Thank you sincerely.

[@tobihs2519]

52:55 No-no-no! He WAS hired for that and did what what good. But he DIDNT do what the manager or whatever wanted. That is so dumb i hate this bahaviour at jobs

[@teetle0]

Super interesting that gms had to be invisible. Been getting into osrs and it seems their gms get much more leeway to interact with the community, showing up to content creator events etc.

[@jordanedwards2714]

i got a free name change because my character's name was something like sithillis which sounded like syphilis and i was on an RP realm and i said it wasn't very RP and sounded like an STI and got free change i got hooked up but i think this could of even been before the name change service even existed.

[@italocampoli8643]

He said it perfectly Blizzards needs goldsellers to keep people playing and paying RMT for more and more vice style playing, playing all day and maxing out each alt and play hours and hours, is a sinergy, they never really cared about them unless they stop playing ball with the devs/admis of the servers

[@RIPFPSDOUG]

First time I caught a zombie account hack, my gear was replaced with shite greens, becaus eit had been over 90 days. Second time, the GM told me "I cant verify what you had. because of the time frame" To which I replied: Then jsut kindly refund my service feee, I have nod esire to play in crappy greens like you gave me last time. I had good gear." He replied: "Relax, Ill give you good gear. "Immediatly gave me full teir 8 shadow preist set. Which was literallyt way better than any of the gear I had lost. My friends who had asked me to come back and play with them, didnt even have as many pieces as he had given me. They were all jealous. So it wasnt always a bad interaction, but sadly most of the time, for most people it was. That particular GM was just being insanely generous I suppose that day.

[@GRAYBOOSH-420]

I was a GM for 3 years in 2009 to 2013 and they didnt give a shyt back then.. obviously much less now.

[@MonkyTube18]

A friend of mine was a gm in cork irl and i guess he was fired early 2012, because that is the time died from suicide :/

[@rasmachris94]

Honestly, Blizz are incentivised to allow botting and RMT. WoW token has to be bought with cash or gold on AH and if the price of gold inflates it makes it harder to obtain which drives sales. Likewise, RMT is benificial because it lets people who are 'bad' at the game just buy stat sticks to boost their performance, those same whales are likely to spend money on cosmetics and anything else convenient for them in the store - boosts for example. Race to world first likely wouldnt exist which is advertising for Blizz cause without the bots injecting currency to buy guilds would have to spend more time farming to buy BIS, or farming BIS. It's within Blizzards interest to keep these things within the game for the same reason they allow addons. It's financially benificial - for those not understanding where addons comes from, I firmly believe the only reason addons exist to the extent they do and Blizz seems to play so fast and loose with them is because it would require blizz updating draconian systems almost entirely. This would take time and money, and why bother when someone else is doing the work for you?

[@toxictroll7843]

I love to buy gold and skip 150h of mindless grind. Whats wrong with that?

[@JoeMcCann-lt4jj]

i got a character forcibly renamed by blizzard. named a night elf priest 'goodwithkids' and ran around dancing like michael jackson. opps

[@Tybalt.]

Im actually happy Swifty on EU posed a the real Swifty. Hope he made a lot of unassuming children's day. Kinda think of him as a wow Santaesque type character now. 😂

[@sixofsix]

Why would Blizzard care about gold selling? They sell gold themselves.

[@PositiveOnly-dm3rx]

I only ever had one interaction with a GM. I was trying to get my exploration title, and I was in darkshore at max level on a horde character. This GM started questioning why I was there, and i ignored them. So they threatened to ban me and I went off on them. I had done nothing wrong, I was just going for an achievement in the game, and I paid their salary. Their insane power trip and threats were not my problem. So I reported them to the ticket system, and the same GM closed my ticket... So I sent an e-mail to blizzard about it. You cant even find an e-mail for blizzard now. good times.

[@tehfuqizg0inon588]

You caught aggro from a tier 5 god complex neckbeardian

[@mcfarvo]

Yo, I watched that video a couple days ago! I didn't know it was making the Reaction Andy rounds!

[@milentiusgaming]

i have a zombie account lol, i stopped playing because it got hacked with the blizzard authenticator attached they still managed to give my account to hackers and then have the balls to tell me it wasnt mine in the first place.. now i play on Ascension ♥

[@CaptainBloodsail]

This was way back in mid Burning crusade, my dad had full raid epic armor set from Tempest Keep at the time. One day he longs in some guy stripped his character and sold all his gear and took everything. The GM was able to help him get all his stuff back and even gave him back his gold with a few extra hundred gold. I miss talking with GM's. I miss the blizzard i grew up with.

[@furydeath]

Ahh man I remember the PTR that they left /worldport on good times good times

[@tomcromie6074]

Absolutely heartbreaking i couldnt stop crying

[@Sas-ym4gg]

Imagine being either dumb enough or over confident enough to think you can be a GM in a game you haven’t played, let alone if you aren’t a gamer.

[@etean]

I always wondered how you tied your shoes Guzu...

[@geoffkannenberg6167]

57:34 I literally grabbed eggnog out of my fridge moments before he said this…

[@BitterBanter]

came here just to ask if anyone else thought guzu's hand in the thumbnail is just a bit off, like not quite in the right place.. or its just me?

[@Usul75]

I dont know how it is today, but im pretty sure when i played from 2005 to 2010, our EU servers had different names then the US servers. There were no 2 servers with the same name in different regions. I played on Cult of the damned and im sure there was not another Cult of the damned server on US or Asia. You could switch regions and look at the server lists btw. Back then at least. Btw. my Account also got hacken while i was not playing anymore. When i logged in after a year or two all my chars were naked and everything gone. But i got everything back very quickly, i think it did not even took one day. I dont know how they did that, when there was no log. Maybe i was lucky and the hack happened just before i logged in again? And the log from the hacker was still there? And after that i bought one of these Authenticators for my Blizzard account. This little pager things, they dont make them anymore. Now they do it on the smartphone. But that little shit is STILL working after, i dont know, 10 years now? I even bought a second one back then, because i thought when the battery is dead in a few months, its better to have a spare one ready to go. Its still unopened to this day, because the other one still works. The battery in this thing is impressive. Elon Musk should ask Blizzard how to make batteries.

[@nickmayfield976]

there's no way this guy doesn't see how uneven his mustache is

[@quineloe]

Remember this was all Kotick. If VIdeo gamers were half as violent as the media back then portrayed them, do you think Bobby would not have received Brian Thompson Therapy at some point?

[@austinsmith8436]

i mean blizz says they dont want racial violence in their game but the whole games faction system is kinda based around it as well as they literally have a storyline of genocide taking place so the logic just doesnt really make sense

[@Randorf100]

sad for me they never found my first account that I started with in 2004

[@Vikt0rian]

I think the Game Master layoffs had a long term consequence for the health of the game, they kinda worked as community managers and would give you a tangible whenever an issue had to be resolved, instead of what came after. I think for the health of the game, this was a bad decision, perhaps for the economy of the company, which is what's so tragic, these companies would rather have short term money than long term sustainability, they've lost millions upon millions of players, potential giga whales that went to other games because they refuse to do what things like this that was a part of the feel of back then. Classic never felt like Vanilla to me, because a lot of what was, was no more.

[@koaasst]

this is off topic but keeping with current newsy stuff, how do people of denmark view greenland and its status?

[@furydeath]

I got the CE pets back when a GM log into my account to fix something x3

[@shawntropilis4558]

They ban plenty of people buying gold, unfortunately and embarrassingly I was one of them.. so I can say for a fact gold buyers do get banned.

[@chrisjohnson-bu4ez]

i only buy shoes without shoelaces slip ons only

[@Yonhondainove]

This drama is so stupid. If there was no gold buying there would be something else. I've knew a guy that played professionaly Lineage 2. He was part of a team that got paid by a russian politician, and that politician actually had 2 teams like that.

[@AIRoasteri]

I agree. gold buying has always existed and will keep existing. just accept it

[@energyoneeighty2887]

Pete Wisdom from Deadpool lol

[@draveyyy3846]

Just kind of wanted to actually watch that guy tell the story about working at blizzard😊 there's a lot of extra stuff in there

[@_CGB_]

Still to this day i don't understand the logic behind forcing me to change the name of my warlock "dogfart"years back. Blizzard itself has fart and mooning emotes built into the game. surely a name of dogfart isn't as blizzard emote popping up saying that you're dropping your pants to moon someone,.. lol

[@AlpiFirat]

I saw so many videos about this gold selling thing. Guyz, bliz selling golds and if you try to go into that market u are banned.

[@padillaj492]

Made a ticket because [Shard Labor] Achievement was bugged and i couldnt complete it so i couldnt get the mount. Support responds to ticket saying i hadnt completed the achievement and theyre not allowed to give hints. Explain every facet of my problem in depth so they can give me my mount. "There is no current known bug about this quest sorry" Respond again to the ticket, refusing to close it Support responds to ticket saying i hadnt completed the achievement and theyre not allowed to give hints. Completely unable to get the mount.

[@Justin-ux2ir]

LITERALLY almsot every wow streamer is a giant sell put yes man at this point. Guzu literally plays with people who buy gold.

[@Syphonfllter]

Who cares? Why does this matter? Why is it any if your business what people spend their money on? Goofball

[@Healcraft]

I had my account hacked and botted after i quit during cata came back they didnt vendor everything but i did have more gold than before and bags full of ore (along with mining which I didnt have)

[@shadeddreams]

Hot off the press 12+ years ago

[@sticktothefacts8905]

I find this hypocritical Guzu. Complaining about bots & gold buying when joining Onlyfangs & playing with gold buyers like Soda. You cant complain about bots & reward players who buy gold. The community isnt prepared to police itself

[@michaelclarke6642]

Cry more

[@michaelclarke6642]

Cry more

[@animalchin5082]

Not joining the big content guild would be stupid. Sure fuck Soda for buying gold but I'm pretty sure all of us have had goldbuyers in their guild before that doesn't make all guild members hypocrites...

[@sticktothefacts8905]

@@animalchin5082 Thats it, self interest over principles. The community wont police itself, I rest my case. If the community wont ban the gold buying streamers, why should Blizzard ban the bots

[@silentsorrowbane]

​@@sticktothefacts8905 "If people won't stop buying weapons, drugs, PEOPLE illegally, why should the government keep it illegal". What weird logic is that. Bad things have to be controled by the people in charge so they don't go out of hand (like botting did especially in classic wow)

[@sirskorge]

Bots get a cut to Blizzard. The ONLY reason it's been active since 2006.

[@Neotidus]

If Blizzard was getting a cut, wouldn’t they just generate gold to give the gold selling company instead of having bots? Blizzard gets their sub for each bot, that’s why they still exist.

[@macmac6064]

ofc they get a cut from players selling tokens for bots to buy

[@teemumiettinen7250]

@@Neotidus More likely explanation is that botters have bribed someone inside the company. Blizzard does not actually make any money from botters, because botters buy their subscrptions with stolen credit cards and blizzard is obligated by law to return the money.

[@Rorschachqp]

I got paid for playing WoW back in Vanilla. I wrote for a certain magazine about WoW.

[@jinglemyberries866]

niiice :D

[@thekhan517]

got enough commercials in your vids?

[@zday40k]

This video is kinda taking some time to point out what has been very obvious even before classic was released

[@KarmaRave]

Meoooooooooow-xmas!!!! Love to you all

[@Michael-or2cn]

I'll never forget in cata I had 200k I traded it for 160$ PayPal and the 40k+ stone drake good times

[@PositiveOnly-dm3rx]

That just gave me a flashback to when one of my friends and guildies quit wow, and then after told me he sold all his gold for real money. I dont remember how much gold he had but it was several times more than I had, and he sold it for like $45. I was so mad. I would have easily given him twice that as I was already working at the time and he was not. I really hope it bothered him too since he lost money. But we never talked about it again, as there was no point. The gold was gone. I completely forgot about that until i read your comment.

[@ItsYent]

So to recap this guys rant. He worked at blizz in the early 2010s like 2011 or so and he worked there for 2 years. He goes on to explain very super basic customer IT support job outside of maybe the progress checker every hour. Notices ppl are getting laid off at his position and angry because the company is booming so why cut ppl very understandable frustration. But he doesn’t lose his job. He is told there is a team that handles RMT and etc but he in his very short 2 years of working only on 1 team thinks that is a lie and decides to go on his own crusade investigating gold trades and takes action ignoring the job he was given and doing stuff that invaded on other teams terrain. Gets caught and gets a talking to by his superiors. He doesn’t like that his superiors are being rude and reprimanding him he does NOT get fired for blatantly doing shit he was not told to do but told he will go on probation (whatever that is) but instead he in his frustration he just quits on the spot. Goes on to say Blizz doesn’t care about gold sellers even though he has no proof of that because he only worked there for 2 years and didn’t see the team that handled RMT in blizzard. Boils down to angry ex employee farming clicks with rage bait story where both sides were in the wrong. Thanks for coming to my recap

[@lindalaguna8066]

The game is full of bots tho. It’s pretty clear to anyone with any type of pattern recognition that blizzard is actively making huge amounts of money from bottling and rmt and has a financial incentive to not doing anything about it. I was in hillsbrad for literally 7 hours last night and there were hundreds of mage and hunter bots doing the exact same thing. They would just sit there and let you auto attack them down. I canceled my sub over it. There would be times were I would only encounter a real person in maybe 1 out of every 15 characters.

[@ItsYent]

@ show me a game that doesn’t have bots and I’ll show you a dead game . To think they aren’t banning bots at all is just silly .

[@karagravis]

Yeah, they don't give a damn. That is why I don't pay them anymore.

[@PeritashGaming]

i have seen the original and i cringed at his version of the gringe so hard. and now again but at least im not suffering on my own this time XP

[@johnanthony9548]

Darkspear for life

[@iamjeff4837]

I got a GM to show up with a mob bug. :)

[@ASIRA89]

how can they fire people without giving them a reason? Do GMs work without a contract ?? I thought that applied only for the shady and "semi-legal" jobs?

[@leinonibishop9480]

Most states in the US allow ‘at will’ employment. Which means you can quit at will with no explanation and you can also be fired at will with no explanation.

[@ASIRA89]

@@leinonibishop9480 yes but thats for small companies or fastfood/gastronomy and stuff like that right? No way a giant company like Blizzard employs "at will". And who would accept a job at a place like Blizzard if they knew they could be fired any time without a reason. If someone accepts a job like like it's their own fault.

[@leinonibishop9480]

@@ASIRA89 i don't know about blizzard specifically but I've worked at several large, nationwide companies (not fast food) and even in management positions they are all at will employers.

[@davidd9727]

​@@ASIRA89good luck finding a job in the usa that's not at will employment, basically have to get a union job which are rare and limited industries.

[@ASIRA89]

@@leinonibishop9480 idk what to say about that. That seems pretty crazy to me.

[@danielandrews3878]

revenue is not profit, but you need economical degree to understand such terms :D. When someone opens a regular business they don't think about the people they pay but the revenue they get and how to optimize it. If you owned a business and not know your bottom tier employees you'd do something similar, maybe not in such harsh manner, but would still do it. Also, as an employee you should not expect to actually live there for ever or be considered family by superiors. Gamers are customers, treated like customers, gaming today is pure industry and if you want to survive in gaming industry you need to optimize business because there is fierce competition on the market, like it or not. What he was doing was good for players, but the way to do it was bad. If you have such an idea you present it to your superior and they determine what u are paid for, not yourself. We don't know if he did something good for the game, other might have been doing same thing, assigned to that thing. If every employee would start making such decisions just because it seems better you'll have chaos. If you have KPI's is 100% about you, stop making stupid excuses. Again, he was employed on a certain job, he is not manager or anything so he is not even entitled to know, nobody reports to you as support team member what other teams are doing and how well they are doing. And its normal, because even if you would catch a glimpse, you would jump to conclusions without having any data to support your conclusion. At the end of the day you are payed to do your job and only your job. Think you can do better ? Open a business of your own. There is a risk taking action or not taking actions. Such decisions are based on statistics. If you invest extra 100k dollars to better control gold sellers but nothing changes on medium term as income, you just threw away those money for nothing. Once you did and experienced that you will not do it again. And you'll say, wait, but 100k is not that much, well, with that money they could pay an employee or two for a year, doing something valuable.

[@xenogroth]

Not easy to watch when you constantly talk simultaneously as the dude in the video you're watching.

[@Sewjee]

So Guzu's a swifty?