EX-DVT 82113 branch line trials at Bo'ness

[@michaeljohn7262]

Wow, a lot of thought went into designing the blunt end. A square window fron B&Q

[@BONESS27001]

The window is 10mm thick laminated from 'Plant Glazing'.

[@michaeljohn7262]

BONESS27001 And!!!

[@Phil6219]

Well it's not a window from B&Q ;)

[@michaeljohn7262]

Phil6219 No.... really! Well I never.

[@alexbakermault2922]

Horrid isnt it. Looks really really bad, no thought in its design, so unimaginative, also where do the exhaust fumes go?

[@toddhunter3137]

The flat end with that single square window looks very odd. It's as if it was the best they could come up with at half past 4 on a Friday in the office.

[@KPTHR3]

It looks odd seeing it. RUN AWAY DVT!

[@eliottjeary1492]

i have to agree, its very odd seeing a DVT run under its own power but it saves it from an alternative fate and gives it new life with new ideas

[@bridgerectifier7711]

Yeah, I was going to say that myself until you did of course. Very weird. I like driving from the DVT/DBSO end because besides the track noise, it's always the quiet end.

[@eliottjeary1492]

@@bridgerectifier7711 haha i took the words right out your mouth then lol

[@PaulMiller-h2l]

This must rank as British Rails most unpopular loco ever

[@BONESS27001]

It was a great project to work on. Thanks for your comment Paul.

[@damixneditz]

Isn't that a class 19?

[@BONESS27001]

Yes it is.

[@stevesellers-wilkinson7376]

Is it self-propelled now?

[@BONESS27001]

Has been since 2018.

[@ronnieg6358]

A Driving Van Trailer (DVT) has no motive power as it is just a control station for the loco at the other end of the train. So how is this one moving on it's own? Obviously it has been converted. A commentary with more information would be helpful

[@DigitalDiabloUK]

Ronnie G this channel has more on "the making of" and the conversion process. I do agree though, a fully narrated documentary would be good.

[@BONESS27001]

Try: www.artemisip.com/sectors/rail/

[@alfredfeagins1886]

Maybe it's battery powered.

[@DigitalDiabloUK]

@@alfredfeagins1886 maybe it's Maybeline?

[@rearspeaker6364]

@@DigitalDiabloUK leaving red lipstick all up and down the railway!!!!

[@jimmyaustin6087]

Brakes still making a lovely sound I hear! :)

[@shug831]

Would be nice to hear if the tests are being successful!?

[@Andrewjg_89]

This is amazing. A DVT trailer now has its own power running on diesel. Incredible.

[@polishstick0609]

Could be better if it had walkway for Mk3 carriages, but it can make a literal 91, but Mk3 version

[@Flogger1345]

its not under diesel its under some kind of hydro power

[@crazyfroggie6546]

Amazingly quiet, the Toyota Prius of the railway world.

[@ianjones4116]

No longer a DVT,,, Its a Locomotive now . Thanks for sharing. 👍

[@clangerbasher]

Very interesting. It would be nice if a second one could be built so there was a proper cab at both ends. :)

[@Mariazellerbahn]

They could couple a DVT to the blunt end.

[@KenBrownekb71000duke]

Interesting concept, wonder if it will translate into larger scale trials? Nice video of the unit under power from the JCBs and from stored power. Ta from Ken

[@frenchsteam7356]

Wonder what ASLEF will say about the "Blunt End"?

[@RWJP]

Probably not very much, it's only a test bed, and only being used on a preserved railway at low speed. Remember, they're not testing the actual DVT, they're just testing the power and drive systems that they happened to put inside the DVT.

[@auldmukkie]

Could be doing with a window wiper on the blunt end. good project enjoyed the video.

[@Ed.R]

I'd love to get to play with something like this. Data logging things like hydraulic pressure etc. Then making adjustments and doing a bit more testing.

[@donnataylor5673]

I live 2 mins from railway line ma daft pooch loves to watch the trains

[@MechWizzard]

I wonder if the rear cab will be replaced with another angled front. It would be interesting to see, perhaps after its earned it?

[@Phil6219]

An interesting concept, glad to see it on the move.

[@steves5172]

Well it certainly moves on its own! I suppose the strange noises emanating from the accumulator start will make future rail fans weep with nostalgia, as indeed we do at the sight and sound of Flying Scotsman crossing the Forth Bridge with “12 up” or erm………….maybe not? Seriously, a good job, well done to all!

[@petejohnson1724]

was the overall test any good is this a system with a future it did not seem very fast

[@jackbarrowclough1739]

I wonder if we'll get to see an MK4 version too

[@blindpugh12]

I wonder how much energy is being wasted through those dragging brakes? Why not adjust or even replace the blocks?

[@Cpr1234]

I now have the official number for this train. This train is now a class 19, number 19001 after being fitted with a diesel engine

[@randlofs]

a self-propelled DVT

[@BONESS27001]

Yes, with two power units inside the van providing the hydraulic pressure to the hydraulic traction motors. Thanks for commenting.

[@charitycharity3316]

Just looks wrong, also the wrong end has no wiper and only one. Light is. It just for shunting aka class 43 hst

[@BONESS27001]

Not finished.Cab construction at: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIuri5hnfcaKesU

[@lilcattythewildnorwester7786]

I purposely thought that the DVT Unit don't move themselves Because They served as a Cab Control Cars

[@scrapsurvivors6671]

There is one of these just sitting perfectly resotes of the wolverton rail works I wish a hertege railway would buy it. It has not been moves in years but is in prestine condition

[@eddywilliams6212]

I saw this a couple of weekends ago in the yard, wondered what on earth it was doing there, good idea tho, for giving the diesels an acceleration boost to keep to electric timings

[@MervynPartin]

It is an interesting machine. Are there any details of top speed (under power and towed/propelled), the haulage capacity, and the intended market? I can see a possible niche as an economical get-you-home facility if it is capable of being used as a DVT with conventional loco hauled stock.

[@ctra1ns]

I am pretty sure max speed is up to 120 mph

[@Malo-TheFlyingFrenchman]

Dvts are a diesel traction ? Normaly it is not the class 67 who push it ?

[@matthewsnowdenshunterguy3352]

Woah! So this going into preservation then on the railway??

[@nlo114]

Excellent! 5 miles without a derailment ;-)

[@alfiewhittaker6114]

I'd like to see this in a dmu of sort or a collaborative with vivarail

[@ronaldweir712]

I thought you would need to get the lights working so people know that it’s coming or going. The front ones seem to be working but not the back.

[@neilforbes416]

At 5:40 - Silent departure? Is that so you can sneak away in the dead of night? LOL

[@icarus_falling]

Whats the purpose of this unit?

[@BONESS27001]

To prove out new hydraulic pump technology

[@pantographproductions1888]

I’ve been looking for this, great vid!

[@DaveInBridport]

Needs a headcode box adding...

[@eliottjeary1492]

got to be the weirdest thing ive seen a dvt moving under its own power when normally you see them on a typical train on the ECML or on wales services, but its good to see new ideas being put to the test and DVT's being given that extra leash of live :)

[@polishstick0609]

Another class 91, but with Mk3's

[@ANDREWWALLFORD123]

What are you going with this???

[@royhumphrey49]

What it's for?

[@MalcolmCrabbe]

Still haven't fixed the rubbing brakes then :)

[@thattrainguy]

Whats this for, is it testing something?

[@TrainsInRomania]

Thank you very much for sharing!!!

[@ELAviation]

Interesting video mate. Loved it 👍

[@huyiii2435]

how is a dvt running on its power

[@BONESS27001]

Try : www.artemisip.com/sectors/rail/

[@ianwatson2285]

Be nice when it's finished, some paint on the cab roof for instance. What's it supposed to do anyway?

[@gordonj2298]

It's a Kinetic Energy Recovery System (KERS) for trains - put one of these on the front and it'll store energy as it's braking, which could then be used to accelerate the train away from stations again.

[@jpal00]

Why not put it in a loco then? Or, in case of electric trains, to the trackside? I mean, you won't recover a great deal of energy from a light trailer and you lose the passenger space inside. And there is a reason why the Formula 1 KERS systems went electric, I think.

[@gordonj2298]

It's an R&D project. In the same way that a loco can move a whole train, correct tuning of energy recovery on one vehicle could recover kinetic energy from the momentum of the whole train, if it's set to brake earlier than the friction brakes. You'll have seen the addition of tanks under the floor (where the diesel tanks usually are on diesel locos) and the details say that there are hydraulics added onto the axles (which in a diesel-electric loco will have motors attached too). As a technical demonstrator, this can demonstrate whether (or not!) the recovery technology is viable in a controlled environment with plenty of space to play about with and undertake the development work, and in a relatively cheap vehicle (without sacrificing a working locomotive). If it works, it may well end up on locos in the future though.

[@jpal00]

OK I understand. By the note about light trailer I meant it doesn't have enough potential adhesion to brake the train (locos are usually heavier, about twice as much - even then it takes about 3-5 km to get a train from 0-200 km/h, but only about 1-2 km to stop it). But if it could be potentially fitted on a loco or a DMU, fair enough. BTW, how big are the energy storage tanks?

[@BONESS27001]

Cab roof was painted this week.

[@CFRTrainSpotter]

It looks like something you would only see in a movie...

[@chris-io1ki]

Ha,that small window on the blunt end made me chuckle to myself. The driver looks sort of lonely there! Looks like an interesting project and a great video. Hope it's met with massive success.

[@stewartatkinson4179]

Great video, very interesting to watch!

[@MetroTitanD78]

Really sounds weird, sound reminds me of the noise you get when you put a plastic bottle in a bike wheel. I love the D trains but even the battery one sounded weird.

[@robertjamesgreen]

Nice work but it seems wrong on so many levels esp when running blunt end 1st

[@chriswarwick4952]

Just needs painting the swallow livery now

[@curiousdrone3015]

the 225 sets could be made into bimodes aswell!!!

[@prime6134]

That behind window is beyond hideous

[@petersmith4455]

fantasy loco. looks different. cant see it being used except for shunting. needs wiper motor and arm. 8cvst engine might be better then you can hear it and have some enjoyment.meantime lets be serious and get the brighton belle back on track.

[@falken_gt4]

peter smith it’s a test mule for the technology paid for by Artemis to be used,if tests are successful, in modern trains, no doubt funding other projects such as the Brighton Belle. JCB engines do the job for testing and use up very little room in a chassis not designed for an engine.

[@tattybanter1048]

Armchair

[@nbc_uk]

I guess that nothing ever came of this...

[@BONESS27001]

It was a great success, proving out new hydraulic pump technology.

[@nbc_uk]

@@BONESS27001 That sounds better then! It seemed to drop off the planet after the film of the test run. Does it still operate at all, or have any planned future use?

[@jontydenton1898]

Gotta name it Cyclops!

[@BONESS27001]

No, Its Stuart ( the Minion ).

[@aaronarshad2903]

Where is Bo,ness

[@BONESS27001]

Near Grangemouth in central Scotland.

[@aaronarshad2903]

@@BONESS27001 thanks I was just thinking as for me that's the first time I've seen a Mark 3 DVT in Scotland although I knew they came before whilst working for virgin trains and InterCity

[@Kettenhund31]

So far, so good!

[@Southerntrainspotter315]

That dvt : f*ck this im leavin

[@owenchuarbx]

DVM already

[@User-3O3]

She's done her bit. Time to take it easy in retirement.

[@Hm_m41115]

the front is nice but the back is hideous

[@tonderen1615]

I'm not sure if a future at Bo'ness is the right future for this DVT. I think this DVT never will be something else as an "outstander" within the Bo'ness collection and some day will rise the question if these funds could not have been better spend on something else instead.

[@BONESS27001]

Bo'ness funds were not spent on this project.

[@machosker]

The company are paying for the work. not Bo'ness. It's also helping to develop skills at the same time.

[@MetroTitanD78]

This DVT and the class 230 D stock trains were only here on test.

[@marailwaymedia7234]

Great video!

[@MS46532]

2:25 Idk why i find it funny XD

[@williamjohnson7699]

a diesel DVT wow

[@briankemp2290]

Plenty of haters on here with the comments. All experts in rail traction and electro-hydraulic propulsion i presume 🤔. A very big hello the team at SRPS and the Diesel group. Looking good guys.

[@lilcattythewildnorwester7786]

This DVT Sound like a it Has K5LA Airchime

[@BONESS27001]

Its a British 3 horn chime.

[@IanPooleTransportHub]

Interesting...…..

[@mamodsteamreturns5492]

fantastic

[@kingorry7223]

Silent! That sounds like a broken class 20

[@olasola1013]

2:49 *uhhhh*

[@JohnPW22]

Rolling downhilll.... eh ???!!! Ooohhh, driven by JCB!

[@davebarclay4429]

What on earth is the point of this weird contraption? When I go to Bo'ness I want to see proper trains (steam or diesel) not some peculiar hybrid with no obvious purpose

[@machosker]

They are testing it out for a company who are trying to develope the technology. I also adds a few pennies to the railway and helps build new skills.

[@class8866]

Nice to be a be a booster !

[@johnmiles5929]

Utterly bizarre.

[@ianjones4116]

Diesel Hydraulic,,, is this the new Warship Western class . Couldnt see BREL letting someone film from beginning to end. . Who cares about the blunt end. It's a TEST BED ..... Dummies .... FFS !!!!! 😀👍

[@leonblittle226]

Possibly the most ridiculous heap of junk they have come up with yet. But rest assured there will be more dopey idea's to come when all that needed to be done was find a new push pull diesel loco and overhaul the mk3 stock (like chiltern have) to meet modern specs.

[@BONESS27001]

Yes, ridiculous. www.artemisip.com/artemis-scoops-environment-prize-at-national-railway-innovation-awards/

[@leonblittle226]

Still uses a diesel engine. Still less efficient than electric tech. Still hasn't improved on the fact that a nuclear power station is a glorified way to boil water to make steam to turn a turbine generator to make the electricity to run a railway and entire country. Problem not solved. Got an award. Inb4 - Please clap.

[@someshwarroy52]

A trash converted to junk

[@johnnyboy3949]

It’s just a shit class 43