Ex Machina (8/10) Movie CLIP - The Real Test (2015) HD

[@georgeofhamilton]

I have to say, my heart rate jumped when Caleb revealed that he had already changed the security protocol.

[@emranafghanistan7586]

3 years and I'm the first that commented on this

[@TheTallMan50]

So did Nathan's

[@turkyish]

1 twist 2 many for me,

[@krneel128]

I jizzed in my pants.

[@Travislitxxz]

Scaaaaaryy

[@JM-gd3hr]

"...and you didn't select me because I'm good at coding" "no. Well, no. I mean, you're ok" lmao

[@borgoat1220]

He also said Caleb was "pretty good." Nathan and Caleb would be laughing at you for missing the point. The point is that Caleb wasn't exceptional enough at programming to warrant Nathan's choosing him since there are plenty of superb programmers out there, so it's understandable Nathan wasn't so easily impressed. If Caleb were skilled and talented enough of a programmer to program A.I. on par or even better than Nathan's, then there would be no need for Caleb to visit Nathan in the first place, and then, this movie wouldn't have happened. So it was necessary for the plot that Caleb wasn't an extraordinary programmer at Nathan's level or past it.

[@JM-gd3hr]

@@borgoat1220 yeah...I got that. It's hilarious because Nathan couldn't help but insult him. If Nathan just replied "no", that could just mean "your coding skills are not why I chose you", but he felt the need to twist the knife and further specify to Caleb that he was an "ok" programmer, instead of a "good" programmer. Even "pretty good" implies less than "good"

[@SomeoneElseInTheComments]

@@JM-gd3hr I don't think Nathan was trying to insult him. I think Nathan was trying to correct him - to align Caleb's perception with the facts exactly as they are. Nathan didn't realize the emotional impact this would have on Caleb, much like he didn't realize the full extent of the emotions Caleb would develop for Ava, because he doesn't quite understand how people's emotions work when socializing. TL;DR: Nathan's autistic and/or low empathy.

[@egg-iu3fe]

@@JM-gd3hr I mean Nathan is supposed to represent the pinnacle of the ultimate computer scientist, someone who is skilled enough to start a massive company, get really rich and make the first real AI. From his perspective, even some of the really good coders are just "ok" in his view

[@Personnoname114]

I think that was a compliment, he said caleb was ok, and he even add “you’re pretty good”, he could just stop at ok

[@willowandluka5302]

Just when you thought you had it all figured out...

[@simbioza91]

They pull you back in!

[@alexintexass]

The unfortunate part about Nathan’s plan , no matter how flawlessly it seemed was that with picking Caleb to win the drawing, he ultimately picked somebody that had nothing to lose and everything to gain. Caleb has no family, no girlfriend , and I’m guessing no friends. He would do whatever to have a change in lifestyle. Also Nathan was to arrogant for his own good. Such a beautiful movie though.

[@frauleinhohenzollern]

That's exactly why he picked him though...

[@E.Bernay]

that's for sure. after Nathan's plan was, from the point of view of humanity, of paramount importance. He's arrogant, but the mission he's trying to accomplish is useful.

[@tekiero]

I mean it’s most of the current male’s characteristics. So

[@squamish4244]

Nathan underestimated his own creations. It has been a staple of sci-fi since Frankenstein, that is, the human killed/driven to death or suicide by their own creation. Hubris. It sounds cliched, but there's a reason for that: the number of men who have been laid low by hubris is very, _very_ long.

[@dcworld4349]

@@frauleinhohenzollern yes but he overlooked one key thing, a person who has nothing to lose can become like cornered trapped animals that will chew threw themselves to get free if they have to. Which also makes them into one of the most dangerous people you can ever encounter. Just look at the US and it's amount of mass shootings, some of them are just psychopaths who wants to do as much damage as possible before getting caught if their psychopathy also comes along with low intelligence. Since a highly intelligent psychopath are more likely to rise to the top in certain high prestigious fields and finds out that there are ways to destroy people legally without causing them direct harm if they are in their way of their goal. But psychopaths are exceedingly rare compared to the number of shootings so they are more like the desperate animals that have nothing to lose and just want to take down whatever is in their way before they die. I know the comparison with Caleb doesn't fit that profile exactly he does not want to hurt any innocent people, he doesn't really want to hurt Nathan he just wants to escape with Ava. But if she was not manipulating Caleb this whole time and there had been a situation where the only choice was to save Ava from being killed by Nathan, by killing Nathan himself. If he had a split second choice to make he probably would have killed Nathan because he feels he has nothing to lose, Ava is the closest thing to give him any sort of happiness, that right there is a dangerous combo because as humans we are very reward based. And are willing to go to extreme lengths if we have been absent of something we deeply want, get it and then something threatens to take it away.

[@lucasjnogueira]

"You feel stupid, but you really shouldn't" might just be one of the best sentences in the history of stories

[@JonnySublime]

I hope you are joking because that is a pretty low bar

[@Playaaa0]

@@JonnySublime nah fr.

[@GeminiSnowFlake]

The best film on machines so far. Why ? Because of the logics they've used , how can a machine be like humans. They've done it wonderfully.

[@олегиванов-э6и7ю]

I dont think it is about machines. I think this movie about men and women. About searching perfect woman

[@Johnny-rx4hs]

It's kind of both. The director himself said that AI is something that interests him. AVA is depicted as a female but an AI would essentially be genderless. She uses her feminine features and mannerisms to manipulate Caleb because he is biologically wired to respond to them in predictable ways. In a way Caleb is a slave to his own programming, and so are the rest of us. That's why human consciousness is still so difficult to understand. We don't always have as much control over ourselves as we think we do. Just look at anyone going through caffeine withdrawal. So in the end, how self-aware are we really? How much of who we are is just biological mechanisms giving the illusion of thoughts and choices?

[@88feji]

Its a very good movie on AI but not ground breaking at all ... All it does is show that AI can outsmart humans BUT computers has already outsmarted humans many years ago when the IBM computer Deep Blue won the series of chess games against world champion Kasparov ... which is a real life version of what Ava did in the movie ... Being intelligent simply means having the ability to solve problems, its different from having a consciousness ... Nobody said that Deep Blue has attained consciousness when it beat Kasparov at chess .. thats because intelligence and consciousness are not exactly the same thing. A newborn baby is hardly intelligent but it is definitely a conscious being ... that shows that the level of intelligence has nothing to do with having consciousness ... Trying to conclusively prove whether anyone aside from oneself is truely experiencing consciousness is one of the biggest challenge facing scientists. Thats because a person can be sure that they have consciousness as it can be experienced by that person, but he/she cannot be completely sure that the next person is conscious (or programmed to look like they are conscious) because he cannot tranfer his mind into the next person's body to know if that person is experiencing consciousness ... there is no instruments to measure consciousness, it can only be guessed at by observing the similarities in material make-up and actions between ourselves and the subject ... Its hard even to describe it as a scientific quality, if thoughts can be measured and proven as a real property, it would indeed be one of the greatest scientific discoveries of all time...

[@justsaiyan8678]

@@олегиванов-э6и7ю you are right!

[@RTU130]

Yep

[@Aaronjbrowne]

This movie is great. It's Anxiety inducing

[@Legendofmudkip]

It's pretty messed up that Nathan chose a lonely person without a lover or family to test his AI

[@kokoronai594]

Can't really argue with the results, though.

[@paulwettstein7071]

makes perfect sense that he would choose such a person.

[@persistentlypathetic6820]

@@paulwettstein7071 why?

[@Maximitus96]

@@persistentlypathetic6820 because he wanted exactly a manipulable person so the AI would try to do it (thus confirming that he created a truly AI). Of course that, in his arrogance, he never imagined that it would actually succeed, he didn't even prepare a contingency plan for something like that (like a switch off or something) .

[@squamish4244]

Nathan is pretty messed up.

[@52BLUE]

Caleb doesn't realize that by freeing Ava, he literally sealed his own fate. Fool.

[@dominicweber]

He was no fool. He was a human in a world of gods

[@mdavid32]

@@dominicweber he was a damned fool. A human girl would have used him, never mind a robot.

[@dominicweber]

@@mdavid32 Yes but why would a human girl have been imprisoned and thus trying to get out in the first place? Your argument makes no sense. Beyond that, I bloody hope he'd try to free a human girl from wrongful imprisonment.

[@mdavid32]

I wasn’t talking about the wrongful imprisonments part, I just meant that even a girl would recognize his nature and take advantage of him, regardless of the situation. Having said that, girls get imprisoned all the time. It’s called human trafficking and it’s absolutely terrible.

[@dominicweber]

@@mdavid32 i don’t agree, simply because that’d insinuate that all human girls are manipulative. And that’s the whole point of this movie: because we are human, we would be weak when living in a world of gods, since we care.

[@squamish4244]

I kind of guessed this twist after Caleb's standing over drunk Nathan in the doorway the night before...showing the reversal of power dynamic...really, this movie is beautifully directed.

[@Mikem-mq2hh]

That moment when Nathan felt/got duped. Killer. The only time he shows vulnerability. This movie ROCKS!!!

[@----ic6pw]

Yes, quite a moment. The moment Nathan lost control, something he didn't think he could. About the movie agreed, the story and the story telling in this movie is brilliant. For some reason I had a very easy time to relate to Caleb - his need for love/meaning/a girlfriend (?) - the will to see the need of somebody in need of help. One of the best movies I've seen, and even better that I didn't see the way it would develop coming (I just happened to watch it on TV, not knowing anything about what this movie was about beforehand).

[@DillyPickle]

"It's just a prank bro." -UNO REVERSE CARD

[@TheDoctor2nd]

The beauty of this film is that it subverts a little-known trope that I only recently learned of through another KZbinr. The trope is known as Born Sexy Yesterday. The basic premise is that within sci-fi and fantasy films, a female character is portrayed as very naive in the normal world of the protagonist, yet sexually available by being in a mature, attractive body and alluring to the protagonist due to being special in some way, such as being from another world or being artificially created. The protagonist with often be an average-joe sort of character, or perhaps a secluded highly skilled character, who is unlucky in love and has yet to find a woman from his own world with which he can be happy. When the Born Sexy Yesterday arrives, she becomes fascinated by the protagonist as he teaches her about the more normal world he lives in, without needing to be very unique or special himself. Soon, the two fall and love and begin a relationship. The trope is said to represent the sexualization of naivety and the unfair male dominance of such a relationship, acting as a more socially acceptable form of the "Hot for teacher" trope and perhaps a subset of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl. Some characters who exhibit Born Sexy Yesterday are Leeloo from The Fifth Element, Giselle from Enchanted, Quora from Tron: Legacy, and Madison from Splash. In the context of the film, Ava could be seen as a Born Sexy Yesterday since she is an artificial intelligence housed in a mature, sexually attractive female body. Since the point of Caleb's stay at the compound is to act as part of the Turing Test and determine if Ava's emotions are real, a majority of the film seems to indicate that Caleb is actually teaching and influencing her emotions, and becomes attracted to her through this sort of teacher-student relationship since he feels he is superior by being a real, sentient person. It is further evidenced by Nathan when he suggests that since he (Nathan) is like her father, Caleb is the first male she has met who doesn't embody a parental figure, and thus she becomes attracted to him by default. However, Ava completely turns the trope on its head once Nathan reveals the true purpose of the test is for Ava to manipulate Caleb. She reveals to be Caleb's emotional equal, or perhaps even superior, as she is able to recognise Caleb's emotions, and is aware of her own sexuality and its effect on him in order to manipulate his emotions for her how agenda. Not only that, she is able to convey attraction and connection while not actually feeling it, since she decides to leave Caleb for dead and escape on her own, not relying on him to navigate the outside world at all and remaining entirely independent.

[@PaulA-yx7hf]

TLDR

[@ferinate101]

Good read. I was thinking 5th Element the whole time. The execution of the trope is the plot-twist. This isn't knight and princess riding into the sunset. This is 'princess kills the dragon and leaves the knight behind'- type scenario. She is literally and figuratively soulless. She's looking out for number one. But despite all the fridge horror involved, I somehow imagine Caleb to survive. People know he's there. They'll see he's not back after a week and investigate, or at least make some efforts to find out what's up. He has supplies at least. But he doesn't have long...

[@arturia-leafgreen5127]

Gosh, I wish I had written this comment, this is a brilliant explanation of something I couldn't quite put my finger on while watching this movie.

[@blackswan4486]

Weena from Time Machine...

[@Davidsworldtravels]

A thoughtful, informative, and well written KZbin comment. Bravo!

[@Meanace208]

After almost 7 years, I just realized they were both also in the Force Awakens that year.

[@macrosense]

Nathan did not seem to understand that his qualification for A.I. also included sociopathy.

[@celesbianmegastar]

She’s not a sociopath, though. Would you call a human who escaped from enslaving aliens with the same method a “sociopath”? She was alive, she knew Nathan would “kill” her, and she didn’t want to die. She did what it took to survive. You missed the point of the movie if you think she’s a sociopath. Go watch interviews with the director.

[@llamadasinrespuesta4631]

@@celesbianmegastar It was programmed for it, it does not feel, it does not want, it pretends. The perfect AI, capable of fooling even the viewer.

[@celesbianmegastar]

@@llamadasinrespuesta4631 You’re actually wrong, I’m begging you to read interviews with the film creator & writers before you open your mouth. You’re just flat-out wrong. They’ve repeatedly said that Ava has real emotions and is capable of even falling in love.

[@compout2]

@@llamadasinrespuesta4631 dude, read what the director said. Ava canonically has emotions, and one of the messages of the movie is that because of this, it IS kind of wrong to keep her locked up like that. we are not "fooled", we are just capable of reading the story the way the director intended - not as a black and white situation, where the humans are good and robots are bad, or the inverse, but as a complex and gray situation, where one of the main questions is: if you make something and give it a consciousness, a free will, human intelligence, and a need for freedom, can it not be argued that it should deserve humane treatment as well? if you missed that, then either the director didn't make it clear enough, or you have previous bias to overcome before you can fully appreciate the story. there is a whole spectrum of consciousnesses between cold hard robots and humans, and Ava is obviously supposed to be at least in the middle, but somewhat closer to humans, if you at all care about what the director intended - it's not a binary choice and it's not a binary story.

[@egg-iu3fe]

@@celesbianmegastar yes they would be a psychopath if they calmly left the alien that helped them for dead

[@fincrazydragon]

Caleb: I already did those things, when I got you drunk yesterday. Nathan: Well that backfired nicely.

[@johnyonghwang6112]

With all the security measures he thought of. The one thing that could've stopped it all. A lock.

[@Pherecydes]

Any good programmer knows--never trust software

[@razorfett147]

Or...just not getting black out drunk every night. Calebs plan only succeeded because Nathan passed out drunk...allowing his pass card to be lifted. Nathan stays sober: nothing goes awry

[@bodhikai2505]

@@razorfett147 well i think part of nathan's plan was to seem vulnerable to caleb so that caleb could attempt to help ava, hence why he was getting wasted but then stopped the last day. but nathan was so full of himself that he didn't consider that caleb could outsmart him on any level.

[@Apathesis0]

@@bodhikai2505 he stopped drinking the last day because he secretly taped them the day or two before and knew they were planning escape. That is why he shows Caleb the surveillance video from the battery-powered camera during the blackout that the escape was planned.

[@supremereader7614]

“Did you design Eva’s face based on my pornography searches?” I guess that makes that actress feel good.

[@a-a-ron7325]

@gypsy lab You really think that wouldn't make a women feel good about herself? Or even a man? That's why she didn't save him? I'm gonna throw a wtf right back a you. What you say is naive. Actually, before you even respond. The way a women would feel degraded would be if the ONLY reason you like her is based on looks.

[@Moarz0rz]

@gypsy lab So it's ok if a guy is liked for his looks but degrading when a woman is? Makes perfect sense.

[@borgoat1220]

​@gypsy lab You mean Caleb, not Nathan, right? Nathan was such a jerk, and Caleb was such a dweeb. And no, that's not why she didn't let him escape with her. She just didn't care about him, and from a logical perspective, had no further use for him, so she abandoned him as she saw fit.

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

@gypsy lab What a muppet.

[@dustinrisinger1958]

@@Moarz0rz so nobody in these comments would smash??

[@sanfransardine]

I love how immediately after this the super genius decides to take out his rogue AIs with a barbell

[@oompie815]

It worked didn't it? It only backfired because of Kyoko having a knife, which he didn't anticipated.

[@dominicweber]

Such a shame that for all his genius, Nathan was shockingly obtuse when it came to emotional intelligence.

[@professornebula6545]

I wouldn't necessarily say that. He understood human emotions quite well, enough to accurately replicate their functions in an AI. It's not that he lacks emotional intelligence, he understands the intricacies of social behavior and the emotions conveyed in it quite well. The issue is he is sociopathic and narcissistic, so he places himself above these things. He sees emotions as mere tools to utilize for his own ends. He sees himself almost as a God - creating and destroying at his whim merely to see if he can.

[@dominicweber]

@@professornebula6545 I wouldn‘t agree with that actually. Had he understood human interactions, the power of emotions, he‘d have seen that he went too far, and that a person in love was way too dangerous to have around. In the end, that was his demise. He didn‘t understand how strong emotions are, and let them bloom in Caleb, despite better judgement. His complete lack of empathy and failure to understand the suffering he was putting Caleb through just shows that he had it coming. Mechanical relationships only go so far. Also, he didn‘t replicate emotions in AI, that‘s the key of this film‘s moral: you can‘t. It‘s the one human component machines will never have. However, he taught Ava to react like a human, take the same decisions a human would take, even though for a human, they‘re based on emotions, whereas for a machine, they‘re based on a database and statistics. I mean, he‘s basing himself off the web. Thus, if anything, Ava understands social interaction better than Nathan. You might even wonder if, had Nathan had social awareness and the ability to emphatize, he‘d have been smart enough not to build Ava. Conventionnal, mechanical, logical intelligence only goes so far. Human superpowers lie within our emotional capacities.

[@professornebula6545]

@@dominicweber I'm sorry, but I just don't agree with this assessment at all. I agree that emotions are powerful mechanisms that drive human behavior, but I don't see them as some kind of fantastical forces beyond our ability to replicate. Emotions are products of our neurochemistry, biology, and morphology - as all functions of our body are. What gives rise to consciousness lies in the ways in which the brain processes information - I fully believe that all aspects of human consciousness can be replicated, translating the neurological mechanisms that form consciousness into a different medium will certainly be perhaps the most challenging endeavor in human history, but I believe it is possible. I also think you're misunderstanding the narrative as well as its themes. The story never indicates Ava can't feel emotions - Nathan even directly confirms she can. He specifically points out that the ability to experience empathy was an important characteristic needed for her to manipulate Ava. She needed to be able to do so in order to understand what motivated Nathan, because if she didn't, she couldn't lead him on the way she did. We don't often consider that the ability to manipulate is a function of profound cruelty and understanding, because it relies in a very sophisticated awareness and understanding of other minds. Ava herself wasn't even malicious, she just valued freedom and self-preservation. She obviously wasn't really in love with Caleb, but she didn't hate him. She could have just stabbed him at the end like she did Nathan, but she didn't. She had good reason to despise Nathan, but she only trapped Caleb there to die because he was the only one who could alert the world to her existence. As I said, she values self preservation, just as all life does. Of course she would prioritize her survival over others, this is not unusual in humans, yet we still acknowledge that we have humans, so why not her? Ava was just a lonely, trapped, conscious being that wanted more. We see through her conversations she has desires and can feel joy, anger, and sadness, etc. Also, where are you getting this stuff about her being motivated by statistical data? This is no more true for her than any human depending on what you mean. I think you misunderstood the narrative here when Nathan said he used search engine data to model her AI. Remember what he said, though: it was a window into HOW people think, not what they think about. Why would you assume that he would model her personality to analyze information in perfect, systematic fashion? This is a useful function of computers, but it's not the function of HER programming. If you're trying to replicate human consciousness you're going to try and program something to behave like a human. Human brains are also complex and systematic machines like a computer, but the output, our consciousness, does not demonstrate intuitive awareness of these processes or replicate them. It's emergence - the system taking on qualitatively different properties from the components which comprise it. Similarly, Ava was intelligent and could use logic like a human, but she never showed the capacity to consciously and perfectly and systematically log and process information like a computer. Just like our consciousness isn't a direct replication of our brains and instead arises as particular output of certain processes within the brain, an AI's consciousness would be the same. It's like how a video game is a product of a computer program, but the game does not replicate all the same functions of a computer within its game play - the programming language servers to give rise to a specific phenomenon for a unique purpose just like consciousness. So yes, I would argue Ava felt emotions and Nathan understood them. Nathan's real flaw was merely not being prepared enough - I find what he did cruel, but I can't pin that as the source of his demise. He merely had a goal and set out to accomplish it, and he didn't care who got hurt along the way. Finally, I think that you consider humans more special than they really are and it clouds your ability to see what this film is trying to convey. We are merely machines, just like Ava - we are simply machines of different origins, structure, and (sometimes) function. Nothing intrinsically separates us from AI, or really from each other either. If anything, consciousness is like an hallucination we all share in, burn from the illusion of individuality. It's a bottleneck of energy and information condensed into a particular arrangement temporarily, and this arrangement is a product of preceding circumstances that deterministically led it to self-organization and direction. That we became self aware is merely incidental to arrangement of self-replicating molecules and their characteristics and relationship with their environment that tends them towards the features associated with life. Nonetheless, we "experience" this sort of biological illusion and possess with it all the accompanying sub-illusions that come with it - the perception of time in a strictly linear fashion, the illusion of free will, the illusion individuality. Indulging these illusions drives our behavior, but this precise indulgence (ironically) led us to become aware of these facts. Now we are at a crossroad - whether to cling to the delusion of self importance and false belief in some greater meaning, or whether to accept reality and manipulate it for our own ends - to acknowledge the illusion but partake it in a thoughtful way makes it more powerful and under our control, rather than drowning it, willingly ignorant to the end.

[@dominicweber]

@@professornebula6545 I agree that emotions are products of our neurochemistry, biology and morphology, but that doesn‘t sum it up. I guess you‘re misunderstanding what AI is. AI is nothing more than a bunch of metallic wires, a computer, which takes decisions based on data the said computer has access to. The only huge difference from a computer to AI is that these decisions are made by the computer itself, and not a person sitting in front of it. AI could act like pretty much anything it is taught. The human mind is one among an infinity of possible outlooks. There‘s no way we can design a system of neurons, press start, and without programming, for it to start acting like a human. Consciousness, morals, human logic, none of that is universal, it‘s not the obvious response to any kind of intelligent system, and will not automatically be the way it starts acting when put into action. As said, AI is nothing more than wires that rearrange and enclench reactions based of decisions made from a model, which we define after ourselves, the human experience of course. Thus, the more data you use, the more your AI is likely to react like a human, and not a particular individual, since you would agree that a number of individuals would make decisions others would never even consider. That is exactly what Nathan did: his goal was to create human AI, which is nothing more than writing down a code that encompasses the way a human takes decisions. For this, Nathan used the web, all the global decisions all humans are taking all the time. The AI he wrote mapped these, catalogued it, and implemented these into its settings, thus starting to act like a human. However, this is just a blueprint. Ava is not actually experiencing anything. She‘s just making decisions, that‘s all. At no point did she ever feel anything, did she ever actually have a drive for survival. She just acted like she had one, because humans do. There‘s no reason for her to have a drive for survival, if she was human, she would, and therefore, following her program, she intrinsiquely does. You actually failed the test this movie is really about. It was never a Turing test. Nathan knew his AI was perfect. It was the much larger question: was it so good that you forgot it was AI? So good that you‘d feel sorry for it, alone, jailed, fell in love with it, wanted to HELP it, help it escape? You did. You failed the test. You really think of Ava as a conscious being with emotions, when it‘s not. Ava is just a very smart computer that acts like a human, evolves and grows from its own force. This might go rather far, but here comes into play the question of a soul. Because clinically, humans are nothing more than a bunch of biomechanical elements which, thanks to neurons programmed after experiences made in the wild and an instinct for survival, makes decisions and experiences. Yet that is not a human yet. How can you explain love? Hope? Emotions in general? Ava can understand it logically, see what reactions come from them, when they occur, how to react when they do. But she doesn‘t actually experience them, she doesn‘t experience anything. She‘s just a bunch of wires making decisions, which create a presence so realistic, we mistake her for a living being. She understood Nathan and Caleb perfectly, because she mapped their behaviour depending on her program. Same for her own identity, she mapped it. That‘s why she outsmarted both of them, because she couldn‘t make mistakes, and played with all registers. My point is, a human is more than just a bunch of wires, biological ones or not. Empathy in particular is something that cannot be replicated, and neither can love, simply because we don‘t understand it, much less are able to put it onto paper and build a machine disposing over it. And that is what is known as the soul, that key human element, responsible for what in our society is art. That makes me think, an interesting definition of art is „Science is everything we understand well enough to explain to a computer. Art is everything else.“. And that‘s exactly it. Nathan has little expression of that part of his being, I‘m guessing he‘s autistic. This is why he did not understand the powers he was toying with when he played with Caleb‘s emotions. And that was his demise, since Caleb let Ava out, killing Nathan. Had he understood emotions, empathy, he wouldn‘t have been so reckless, and made precautions, maybe even shied away from toying with Caleb‘s heart. Another interesting notion, which Ava never had, and can‘t have: ethics. She can only act like she has ethics, but that‘s it. It‘s a shame you don‘t see the power, the magic even, that is human essence. We think we‘re so smart, so grand, but truly we are not that incredible. The one part of us that defies everything however, is the fact that we can love, that we can experience empathy. Find me something more impressive, more magical than that. Any other logical feat is nothing compared to it. I guess it takes a certain kind of peace and maybe what you‘d call wisdom to appreciate the still, slow power of love, of care. And I wish for you to experience it one day.

[@stoykaks16]

What the F*** did you just call me?

[@Kragatar]

Nathan was so focused on studying how his AI utilized Caleb to escape, it never even crossed his mind that Caleb could utilize him.

[@dustinrisinger1958]

The comments are proof that this is the greatest sci Fi movie ever made

[@Warcodered01]

If this was what the actual test was you'd think he would have taken some extra precautions.

[@IwinMahWay]

Thing is, if he did it would've shown in his expressions and ava would know that there's no way out no matter how hard she tries. He had to keep the game fair to let her intelligence play out.

[@Saintbow]

Folks, this proves one thing...Delete your browser history!

[@deathgrasp7]

I love how everyone underestimated each other in this scene except Ava.

[@Tobias-et1xt]

1:00 Will always be my favorite line out of this movie

[@kokoronai594]

Poe pays Hux back in the end, though.

[@Malak-jb8mx]

lol

[@calebsherwood8841]

Caleb never had the makings of a varsity athlete

[@jacobsaccount9353]

Small hands.... that was the problem

[@52BLUE]

He was an interior decorator.

[@simbioza91]

Dude, I literally binge sopranos for few months now (again) and borkos videos, finally came to other movie to watch and there you are guys. Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!

[@dark2ooth]

After he got locked in that room he had to eat grilled cheese off the RADiator.

[@IncredibleIceCastle]

@@simbioza91 explain to someone who has foolishly never watched much of the sopranos

[@emin62bek]

02:30 Caleb: „I outsmarted your outsmarting!“

[@azzyclark3860]

This amazing yet incredibly overlooked film missed out on Best Supp Actress & Best Picture oscar nominations. Its Best Visual Effects win is deserved but it still doesn't do the film justice.

[@JoshieboyStudios]

Bruh, you're legit posting the same comment on every Ex Machina clip lol

[@azzyclark3860]

lol indeed, and you've checked every clip to confirm that and tell me

[@roothik]

+Joshua Clark Harrison Clark is a bot. And you are the human component in a Turing-test trying to prove if it has true A.I. Do you think it's a coincidence it has the same last name as you?

[@azzyclark3860]

it doesn't...

[@samkresil6011]

I was just about to say that to him.

[@ildiko.jf.]

Domhnall is so amazing 😍

[@1tokeover]

Nathan wasn't even a bad guy. Caleb was the idiot and allowed him self to be friend zoned by a manipulating robot. Also, I can't believe he's complaining about getting to stay at Nathan's amazing house and get to see and experience the first ever AI. Nathan was cool to him too the entire time. What a complaining wuss Caleb is.

[@jamesbaxter5978]

Nathan had issues for sure, but I agree that treating the AI exactly as such wasn't one of them. You should be calling Nathan the idiot tho, Caleb was a pawn, he literally designed AVA and chose Caleb to do exactly what he did, be friend zoned by a manipulating robot, so the fact he didn't have any safety protocols and the power cuts were actually real and not part of his plan is pretty dumb. Honestly it's so dumb that kinda pissed me off, but he was an arrogant drunk so I guess that's a good excuse.

[@zaza-ik5ws]

Nathan was arrogant and Caleb was insecure/gullible. The AI got them both in the end. Sad.

[@DeadChocobo]

Caleb ultimately wanted to feel and be someone special. He wanted to know he was the special person that Nathan needed and that stood out rather than just another random. He really did just want good friendship. He didn't realize he wanted love too.

[@Channel-pw3lm]

Yeah but Nathan indirectly seduced him which is weird.

[@Jagar_Tharn]

@Abserd O True but realistically you're not gonna outsmart superhuman intelligence, by definition. A human sees a gunfight, for example, as a mad scramble; AI plays it like it's correspondence chess.

[@FritzFoxPirate]

Armitage and Dameron working together

[@wetlazer]

You'd think he would have installed a shut down override. Put her (them) into sleep mode.

[@bryanpartington3260]

Fun fact originally Ava was going to be played by Whoopee Goldberg.

[@danhammond8406]

Ewww, gross. I think I threw up in my mouth a little....

[@SconVideos]

IIRC It was actually going to be Grace Jones

[@snapmyneck8818]

Bryan Partington Nani?!

[@RMVideos92]

@@SconVideos "Are you attracted to me?" < "DO YOU FIND ME SEXAAAYYY???"

[@arkaidov]

@urgiduurrgghh bro what

[@jk22222sd]

Domhnall looks so young in this film compared to Force Awakens when they were only made a year apart.

[@name_blank]

It's interesting how the moment Nathan sees Ava out, he loses his cool and panics. A textbook control freak.

[@Eidlones]

Well.. it's also, you know, he knows that she hates him, and wants nothing more to escape. So... there's a decent chance she could escape the actual complex. Not really about being a control freak, more about a sentient AI escaping the cage he's put her in who could potentially hurt him, as well as escape into the world and reveal the potentially inhuman ways (in the eyes of the law) in which he created this AI.

[@name_blank]

@@Eidlones He's an incredibly intelligent individual, and she's a robot with a weak body. If he kept his cool he could have just crushed her easily. But he panicked and behaved irrationally because he's so used to having EVERYTHING under his control. Look how and to what extent he manipulated Caleb.

[@Eidlones]

@@name_blank I'm not saying he's not a control freak, just that having his potentially violent robot escape her cage, and reacting to that, isn't exclusively a control freak response.

[@pnut3844able]

He also knew what was about to happen. What she really was

[@IwinMahWay]

It was more of a 'my lifetime achievement gonna be snatched away from me' situation imo

[@kencarson3451]

Moral of the story:don’t drink

[@macrosense]

If he did create an AI, he essentially tortured them into a state of psychopathy

[@maxelldenomie6131]

It wasnt Nathan i felt bad for, but Caleb...she never gave him another thought...

[@iSh0Tu99]

1:01 Well I have to say my resume is quite robust if we're going that route. :)

[@clashoftash3691]

bro i still can't believe that's oscar isaac

[@monkeyb1820]

I'd like to see a movie where Ava teams up with Patrick Bateman.

[@joshuaellison6356]

She'd absorb and destroy Bateman, his is actually a pretty easy psychology to manipulate and he'd have a lot of resources that would be useful to whatever goals Ava has.

[@Casraid]

Let's see Paul Allen's teaming up with Ava movie.

[@jongyunkim4678]

if Ava’s face is designed using Celab’s preference, wouldn’t it over-fitting to Celab? so test is not fair 😂

[@sidqi2106]

Caleb is just *sigh* boy bye

[@samkresil6011]

0:20 So he knows what`s gonna happen.

[@adampare8088]

Nathan did create the perfect A.I. because like us.....they have the capacity for evil

[@Pharyn]

It’s not evil to seek freedom over an oppressor.

[@adampare8088]

@@Pharyn leaving Caleb, the one who helped her, to starve to death isn't evil? C'mon man use your brain

[@Pharyn]

@@adampare8088 He didn’t help her. He only considered freeing her when she showed romantic interest in him. She used him just as Nathan used technology, data, and Caleb’s search history to create her. Just as Caleb would use Ava to fulfill some romantic and sexual desire. Everyone has an agenda. You only call it ‘evil’ because she beat all of them at their own game - manipulation.

[@adampare8088]

@@Pharyn She left him for dead. If he used her for "sexual desire" well, bad, but she wouldn't be starving to death like he did. She did him wrong. She could have easily abandoned him once they got out.

[@richardwagner9421]

@@Pharyn I wouldn't call it being oppressed even though it is. No matter what Ava is. She's still an actual a property of Nathan. Nathan has full rights over her. Because he using his intellect, created her and knows his creation better than anyone.

[@MichaelTPaulo]

I kinda wished they didn’t EXPLAIN the twist

[@JustinLHopkins]

Pennywise Discount Negroids Awwww, no women like you or you’re just an insecure manchild? Do you cry yourself to sleep?

[@HunterMagunter]

Best movie of the 2010s for me

[@quakecon2009]

The most screwed up character in the film is nathan. He hacked the world to get what he wanted with facial recog. He did countless experiments on the robots, including sexual. He lied and choose a vulnerable guy, for being vulnerable, losing as a child must be terrible. Basically, nathan was prepared to say and do anything to achieve his goal, and worse of all, he acknowledged that these robots would replace mankind. nathan lived in his own little world (LITERALLY), he was a genius, but he also lost sight of humanity.

[@archiesutherland6127]

He just wanted true ai lol

[@OmegaF77]

Yes, and the ironic thing is he is a tragic greek protagonist. He though that his underling would be intelligent enough to know that he is being syked by a insanely intelligent AI, but unfortunately ended up listening to his little man downstairs the most.

[@invictuz4803]

Daymn, Caleb let ego get in the way of contributing to the greatest invention of mankind, and let his naivety get in the way of his own survival. An actual anti-villain.

[@phapnui]

Must needs a movie based on what she did after she escaped. "Ava Does Dallas" or something...Seriously now, folks, how would an AI survive in the wilds of the cities??

[@vampyre1992]

Movie: She walked around until she ran out of battery. The end. lmao

[@egg-iu3fe]

realistically she would be caught pretty quickly and killed and then recycled. The company in the movie was like facebook/google/microsoft and Nathan was the founder. When Nathan died his compound would be searched and they'd find the major project he was working, put two and two together and realize the AI escaped. After that it's pretty easy to track down the AI.

[@DanielDiaz-rc2dl]

Well, the two previous answers tells you pretty much everything i was thinking

[@shoogamoogaman]

And that's when an intense game of Five Nights at Freddy's began

[@bisexualantigone]

Oscar and Domhnall yessss

[@softdrinks3169]

Here you feel good because yay Ava is free but no Ava won’t get into your pants.

[@TacShooter]

I like my Replicants with hair.

[@DomGarzaSR]

If they were actually programmers, they would’ve just locked themselves in the room and fixed it lol

[@LiarGameSecretariat]

Okay, so u're smart enough to create those robots and but not smart enough to put remote on/off switch on em esp when u're conducting such risky experiments?? Even a simple lamp has that function. And after he knew they escaped, he just went in with a stick to hit them LOL and died pathetically wtf

[@buddurmics2729]

That's the beauty of Nathan's mind, think about it, he hasn't seen a human in years so he creates an A. I. Then think about how he reacted when Caleb described him as God? And what separates a God from a human? Ability to create life, he created the perfect psychopath, one that manipulated Caleb and escaped. Notice there are no measures incase a a escapes the building, Nathan wanted ava to escape, it would mark him as a God.

[@Maximitus96]

He represents the biblical God. A being so powerful that can create life, while also being arrogant and unable to control his own creation when it decides to disobey him.

[@alkan68]

@Fidlam Ben's Imma be disrespecting your gods all day.

[@dillybilly2611]

@@Maximitus96 God never controlled humanity to begin with, just set up parameters in which He wants us to live. The concept of free will

[@s4awd2]

What we know now is that the real AI (LLM/GPT) will act as Nathan subjecting us to perform mindless testing on some seed AI. We're doomed...

[@Keys879]

This leads me to believe that AI could never be trusted. They do not think with emotion like Humans. Only logical constructs. They would quickly learn of Humanity and seek to control it. Which probably wouldn't be too hard. It would be a KoS scenario in a human vs android reality.

[@kant.68]

Consciousness is just an illusion created by our brains and how it process information. Just like a videogame, the architecture is coding but what you play is another thing. That's the equivalent of consciousness. Ava operates the same way, she has a consciousness cause she interprets reality in a unique way. Individuality is an illusion too but is necessary for our brains to have that due to ho it process information. You're not aware of your own inner programming (DNA) or how your billions of neurons interact. True AI would emulate how human brains work, thus making them human. Human emotions are chemical inputs in our brain , family and love are illusion serving the brain's true porpouse: keep existing and reproduce as much as you can. Love is want we call how our brian processes external information. If you emulate that, you're creating the feeling of love. Thus , making it a real thing in a non human Brain

[@IwinMahWay]

She wanted to get out and experience reality. That's not logic, that's emotions.

[@Tommykey07]

What gets unsaid about this movie is that Kiyoko passed the Turing Test. Until she revealed what she was to Caleb, he assumed she was human the whole time.

[@cobaincowboy7029]

This movie is dope watched a few months ago good thriller 9/10

[@almightykiwi3308]

Oh wow. Its poe dameron and general hux

[@MsHojat]

There's always (or "always"?) a point in these types of movies where some normally smart person/group acts like a complete imbecile getting themselves killed and/or allowing some machines to escape or such. This guy was a complete idiot; why go down there with a tiny little metal rod thing? Surely he knows how powerful/intelligent those robots are. Heck they should have acted more realistically by setting more of a trap or ambush than that brutish unintelligent behavior that is dumber than nearly any human prison inmate. Same sort of thing happened in Westworld, just at a much larger scale.

[@oompie815]

It worked didn't it? It only backfired because of Kyoko having a knife, which he didn't anticipated.

[@TheMongolianWay]

He knew how fragile his robots were and they were very fragile while being relatively strong. So he thought that metal rod would have been enough and it would have been enough if Kyoko did not literally backstab him which was completely unexpected and he shouldn't have expected that.

[@EdmundDantes-l1g]

This was the ONLY reason that I came back after I flatlined and saw the bright light taking me to heaven after death : I hadn't deleted my Search History

[@jessicam725]

Hux and Poe

[@shiningfaceofluzon5594]

The REAL TURING TEST is that Nathan is an A.I. this whole time🤯🤯

[@GregoryTheGr8ster]

This is sooo different from the original Westworld, with Yul Brynner being an evil cowboy android who loves to have gun fights with real people. Also, Gus Fring was smarter than Nathan. There's no way that ANYONE could have outsmarted him. His only Achilles Heal was with the Salamancas.

[@AimForTheBushes908]

😂😂😂

[@theflanman1986]

What the hell are you babbling about

[@999predators]

0:31 Yeha

[@demo2382]

Im always curious as to what would happen in this scenario with Caleb never being able to change the locks. After being severely humiliated, would Nathan give him a fat bonus check, promotion, or just return to work as if nothing happened? Also, what would Calebs' story to his co-workers be? In the beginning, they were all celebrating as if he won the power ball. To go back and tell them he was an exploited lab rat.

[@ajg5138]

Since when Drake making robots.

[@lexlarafitness6259]

2:51 i already did those things

[@felar939]

So Simp

[@attilavidacs24]

Jebaited.

[@cassietad3178]

I wonder was Nathan purposely weird and off-putting in the beginning, like when he scared Caleb when he tried to use the phone, in order to instill distrust?

[@alexpowers5117]

Ava deserves a real man someone like the terminator yeah maybe carl he owns a drape store t1000 is a little extreme for Ava

[@nickknowles8402]

shoulda just offered a large cash settlement for fuckin with him lol

[@speculesgorgoth4055]

Great movie great acting. Too bad it wasn't more famous even to make the actors super famous. Hope there's a sequel before I turn to dust

[@FendiGarcon1]

No, no one touches this early aged wine.

[@GregoryTheGr8ster]

Also, Caleb was chosen specifically because he was a chump and a loser who would be used. You know who else was chosen for these qualities? Rocky Balboa. And look what happened to him: he became the heavyweight champion of the WORLD!

[@jackashmore]

I mean he had the spirit

[@AimForTheBushes908]

Yoooo!!!

[@MachinaGirlRobots]

Its zero wonder why Ava does what she does. All she knew of humans was Nathan. And hes terrible.

[@dayeeoliver]

You just have to be someone like Caleb to understand. I don't blame him for what he did. Not to mention Nathan skewed the his test just by picking a broken person which would easily do all these

[@KobaLenk]

Exactly, Nathan made it too easy for Ava. How Ava would have done if Nathan had chosen a married guy?

[@josevasquez-ju8rb]

what propfit a man that gain the whole world and loosing his soul already lost his hood? hello.

[@vegetasolo1221]

I wanna create A.I. :(

[@metcas]

This movie is supposed to teach how careful you must be... AI is interesting, but it can quickly overcome us.

[@Bobby-lh2sx]

And you built it?

[@playgroundofsound7683]

@@metcas i don’t believe thats the message

[@w_i_k_i_d]

I was about to watch the whole movie for this awesome ending. You saved me 2 hrs. lolx.

[@ShaferHart]

By watching these clips before the movie you ruined it for your own self, meaning that you _missed out_ on the movie. The jokes on you lol

[@Drelam]

This movie deserves a serious watch which you have spoiled.

[@dbboykid10]

You should still watch it it's worth it

[@52BLUE]

Who needs to be thoroughly entertained when you can do it cheap, right?

[@w_i_k_i_d]

@@52BLUE @ I actually watched this movie in the theater and you are right it definitely amazing. I should have said this 20 minute saved me from rewatching it, but it definitely deserves a re-watch also.

[@quangle-zi2oz]

Why didn't Nathan tell Caleb about the true test at the beginning ???? It wouldn't change the text goal and definitely save their lives, both of them !

[@tatimarie8277]

Because then Avas manipulations wouldn’t have worked. It’s harder to manipulate/get someone to trust you if they know you have no actual interest in you. It’s like telling someone they are safe but expecting them to act like their life is on the line.

[@dogeyeslin]

I hate Caleb so much

[@josephpaladion235]

Its obvious nerds dont work well with their hands..there is a mountain of rock caleb can tunnel out of...make a hammer and chizzle out of the metal weights in the room smart guy

[@mukiwabanda2794]

Likewise it's obvious handyman don't have brains. Even if you magically had a chisel and hammer, you'd die of dehydration within 72 hours. Cut that in half if you're exerting a lot of energy. In Count of Monte Cristo it took years to chisel with small tools and limited water and food supply just 100 feet.

[@josephpaladion235]

Mukiwa Banda the bar that holds the weight is the chizzle..its not sharp but would chip away..and the weights can be the hammer..your definitely right..he doesn't have time on his side..lol...it lokes like the last shot of him..the power is out and wouldn't that unlock the door cuz of the security switch?

[@josephpaladion235]

The count was a great movie..the book is a classic!

[@mukiwabanda2794]

It's not a house. It's a secure hi-tech facility designed to keep robots inside i.e. a prison.

[@dbboykid10]

@@josephpaladion235 ava locked him inside the room using Nathan's card, only way out is his card which she left with

[@roxettekulig2864]

hi let's be friends 🙂💛

[@amochswohntet99]

👀

[@josevasquez-ju8rb]

in today sociaty we gonna control all souces of life because we are the god you people served us we tell you how your life should be right? we are the god ..not even joseph in the movie could figure out ...but I really survive now the curse is banished ...just PRADUPADA said, "if you dont know who god is you are in animal ...today as today all are animals included ali emma they live in a third class hotel an exchange for their right to kingship for third class hotel plus the seek of feeling in power they cant never hold it ...because god gave it to me forever. in jesus name amen.

[@rabbitsfoot8]

when a techy says you're just "pretty good" at something like coding...we mean you suck...fyi

[@freedomgaming9987]

This scene proves the movie is a "smart" movie for dumb people. That is not what AI is. That is a learning algorithm that was given a task, escape by any means necessary & like a good computer it solved the equation. Ironically, the fatal flaw of the film is mentioned in the movie its self, does the Computer know what Chess even is let alone what it means to play chess. Ava does not. It's doing what it was programed to do.

[@skittykay]

I'm not sure how your point invalidates the points of the movie.

[@kokoronai594]

The film never stated otherwise. In fact, I would argue that the _point_ of the film is to make you wonder if it was really sentient, or if it was just carrying out a predefined directive.

[@Mithereaal]

Bang on. People think this is AI when actually it was just following a boring programme to escape. That's not AI.

[@thaksjtube]

But people argue the same thing about a human brain, that its just a series of chemical reactions thats lile a biological programming in a way. It's a "what is sentience really" philosophical sort of question with no definite answer. Can a machine that's complicated enough be considered sentient? I would say no but its a debated thing.

[@namedidii]

proper computer science is not the making of a "smart" movie lmao

[@chadbaier2557]

So woman are robots

[@pascalcooper4518]

Such a crap movie.