@@estebanvazquez1524 if he was an average actor then why would he be given so many huge roles
@Legendofmudkip6 жыл бұрын
Nathan standing in front of Caleb's room is so creepy. I love how complex his character is.
@whatisevil24476 жыл бұрын
xdarkness22x and perplex
@squamish42446 жыл бұрын
And yet the next scene is the only one in the film where he is not trying to mess with Caleb. He's genuine in his love of AI. Interesting study of a psychotic genius.
@Prometheus72725 жыл бұрын
valar He’s my favourite character, pretty inspirational guy
@squamish42445 жыл бұрын
I imagine him as a combination of Elon Musk and Steve Jobs if they went totally off the rails.
@RR-et6zp2 жыл бұрын
not really , just acting
@aesop20202 жыл бұрын
“They couldn’t accuse me without admitting they were doing it themselves.” Truly sucks to think about how privacy simply doesn’t exist anymore.
@plasticity1000 Жыл бұрын
We've been watched for a very long time. But transparency is the objective. When everyone is honest and has nothing to hide, the strongarm becomes unnecessary.
@plasticity1000 Жыл бұрын
You are being corrected one way or another, whether you like it or not. lol
@plasticity1000 Жыл бұрын
lol!
@aaroncarter884511 ай бұрын
I mean, we opt in by buying smartphones, using apps, social media. You could have privacy, you just don't actually want to pay the price for it.
@Shadowman...10 ай бұрын
because you all let it go ~ Privacy ~Theirs no one telling you you have to use a stupid phone.
@longxiao98234 жыл бұрын
Out of the many WTF moments in this movie, this actually reflects how good a cold Sci-fi this movie really is.
@RoninOtter4 жыл бұрын
If "search engine results" were really how A.I. was getting developed, Ava would have come to the glass and just shouted: "HOW IS BABBY FORMED? HOW GURL GET PRAGNANT?"
@borzy4 жыл бұрын
I know you’re trying to be funny, but the joke misses because you literally missed the point he was making.
@RoninOtter4 жыл бұрын
@@borzy OK chief
@ryanh3113 жыл бұрын
@@RoninOtter who ya calling chief, pal?
@RoninOtter3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanh311 who ya calling pal, friend? ;)
@UndeadSlayer53 жыл бұрын
@@RoninOtter ok boomer
@squamish42445 жыл бұрын
You totally know Google is doing this exact information-gathering stuff right now. [EDIT: It's 2024, and we know for sure that Google, OpenAI, Meta, NVIDIA and a few other companies are doing this. Crazy.]
@emmanueloluga97705 жыл бұрын
Sssshhhhhh
@squamish42445 жыл бұрын
No! I refuse to be silenced! I'll stand up for what is right! Nobody can - Hey! How did you get in here?!? Get away from me! I said get awaasfsdfdgxxvhhhhffhhhhhhhhh...
@emmanueloluga97705 жыл бұрын
@@squamish4244 Lmfao...nice one. You had me in the first half, ain't gon lie
@squamish42445 жыл бұрын
Google's thugs have me now, send help! XD
@claudios50074 жыл бұрын
@COVID-19 PANDEMIC Google even stores the location of your mobile phone. I freaked out a couple years ago when Google had track of all my weekly movements set with exact time. That's how I get always the "proper advertising" of the nearby stores of my route, in my social media acount.
@farley3332 жыл бұрын
I instantly remembered this scene when learning about the (quite impressive and scary) OpenAI's language models. This movie predicted it pretty much spot on. A neural network with internet's content used as a dataset.
@mnrvaprjct Жыл бұрын
Everything except neuromorophic computing - once you combine large language models with that - you have what’s in this video… or transcendence
@squamish42444 ай бұрын
When the movie came out, I remember someone mocking the idea of an AI trained using the Internet. But basically they were thinking of an AI trained using only the poor-quality data online. Now we know these massive companies are scraping every corner of the Internet and negotiating for all the content behind paywalls for high-quality data. And how scaling is nowhere near its limits, and how LLMs are only one component of AI development, and, and...it's crazy how fast these terms have entered popular culture, and so has AI, as in truly powerful AI the way it's portrayed in the film. And how it's become a part of things like materials science and drug discovery in like the last five years. It sounds insane, and I don't know how much Alex Garland knew about AI when he wrote this in 2013-2014, but he was bang on. Spike Jonze also nailed it with Her a few years earlier.
@willowandluka53027 жыл бұрын
This film has everything. Sex, a little violence, humor, and it makes you think
@johnroach76077 жыл бұрын
and a little dancing...you don't like dancing? She does.
@roothik7 жыл бұрын
Sex?
@elhamster1015 жыл бұрын
One nerd getting poked is not violence. Just robot justice for getting poked by a nerd previously. Nerd violence lol
@squamish42444 жыл бұрын
"Don't worry, that knife sliding into your back and chest is not violence."
@kristoveeroja25593 жыл бұрын
@@squamish4244 Only words are violence. Murder isn't. Nerd logic.
@dawkinshater1016 жыл бұрын
this was probably originally a black mirror episode, but the budget got out of hand so they decided to turn it to a movie.
@MegamaXX5006 жыл бұрын
Vindelextreme 2.0 i wouldve liked it more if it was edited down to an episode, felt too long and meandering for me
@antoniovasquez99464 жыл бұрын
Black Mirror is too superficial to reach these levels.
@furiousape77174 жыл бұрын
@@antoniovasquez9946 there are a few really good episodes. I wouldn’t say they’re “thought provoking”, but I wouldn’t say it’s superficial.
@KayKay1142 жыл бұрын
Wasn't this actor in a black mirror accent? Where he was the machine lol
@mvuto1375 жыл бұрын
Every good movie deserves an Oscar.
@eterty83359 ай бұрын
but do the Oscars deserve every good movie?
@Paraprax2 жыл бұрын
An eerie thing about this scene is that it's our clearest glimpse of 'Nathan the world-changing business magnate and visionary' as opposed to just 'Nathan the eccentric tech-bro'. He says when he first meets Caleb that he wants their week to be about two guys just hanging out, on equal footing, and - even though it's a ploy - he mostly stays true to that vibe throughout the film, even in the wild context of the experiment, and their intellectual debates, and the surreal luxury of the surroundings, and so on. But here, we're quietly reminded that they're not on equal footing at all - not because Nathan's rich or his boss, but because he's a once-in-a-century genius and powerhouse, who's already _conquered the world_ through his super-search-engine, outdone 'competitors' like Google and Facebook, controlled the world's cellphones at a whim, and redrawn the limits of knowledge about the human mind on an individual and collective level. The part where he makes the 'striking oil' analogy in particular feels like we're seeing the real Nathan, thoughtful and deep, honest about who he is and how he got here, not _trying_ to be intimidating or funny, not drunk, not manipulative for the sake of the experiment, etc. Yet IMO, this is the most intimidating he's ever been. Caleb gets to be at the center of the AI advent that will change the world forever, and seemingly gets to be buddies with Nathan, and can feel cool and important enough about that to be able to get through the week. But there's a certain horror here in realizing that the _true_ Nathan is just inherently beyond any of us in his genius and prowess, and can maybe never be "a guy just hanging out" with anybody.
@Absurdword Жыл бұрын
Very insightful comment. Fully agree about Nathan’s true nature
@jameshadziboskov1393 Жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@squamish4244 Жыл бұрын
Nathan's a psychopath. When he says earlier in the movie that after all the fibre optics cables were installed in his house, he had all the workers killed, you're not sure if he's joking. And the robots he developed were a reflection of him. So they killed him, and Ava manipulated and abandoned Caleb.
@jay_naidu Жыл бұрын
Wow, well said.
@featherfiend9095 Жыл бұрын
I completely disagree. I understand that many people are attracted to famous personalities such as Einstein, Neumann, Musk, Gates, etc. and that people just want to say that they are just on some “other level”. But the truth is that they are just as flawed as anyone else. Despite both characters having above-average intelligence they definitely have their shortcomings. Nathan has a god complex and Caleb is gullible are two obvious examples. One thing I like about AI is that it humbles our species. Ava has existed for far less of a time than either one of them and yet succeeds to outwit them and escape. However, one day these AI systems will create something that surpasses themselves as well. Nathan isn’t anymore remarkable than anyone else. Clearly, you value his relatively great intellect which is kind of ironic considering that he has already been surpassed. Also let’s not forget to mention that Nathan couldn’t have done all of this himself. He had an education, had an upbringing that nurtured his talents, etc. Each one of us is so small, it’s only our egos that grow in size. And those with a lot of power in life will often delude themselves in thinking they are something special.
@AlkalineAjay4 жыл бұрын
This the best scene in the movie! Really well thought out. Action on point. Amazing set production
@samkresil60117 жыл бұрын
1:11 The Dark Knight all over again
@alexayers94635 жыл бұрын
It's fun to see this film as a spiritual prequel to the Westworld series, like it takes place in [Westworld's] distant past a little before or during Ford and Arnold's first years at the park. You can easily imagine Nathan as a colleague or fellow graduate classmate of Ford and Arnold, all three working in advanced AI and CS research---and you can easily imagine Ford and Arnold absolutely despising him; because unlike Ford and Arnold, Nathan built his AI to play god and stroke his ego. Ford and Arnold built their Hosts almost in spite of humanity and arrogant people like Nathan. It all just fits so perfectly---aesthetically and thematically.
@kennyfabian21262 жыл бұрын
Havent watched Westworld, going to give it a try definetly, but i dont agree with "Nathan built his AI to play god and stroke his ego", i mean, how would you create the "perfect human" with all the aspects without playing god, more than ego i would think he was really focused on development letting go of his human feelings; to have an engineer approach to human conciousness means in some way that you have to take your feelings into consideration just to the development process, but not to put them in practice as a normal human because that would certainly interfere with the process, sadly for the project, that was exactly the case with Caleb, and i think as well it was not coincidence, Nathan obviously wanted to put a normal human being there, with real feelings to perform the Touring test, he is not able to do it himself for what i stated earlier. I think his character is undervalued in this sense, he was not the bad guy here.
@Galaf2 жыл бұрын
@@kennyfabian2126 Have you watched Westworld yet? If not, here's a friendly reminder to watch it!
@MrLGD12345 жыл бұрын
Such an underrated movie
@boopdoop86912 жыл бұрын
When Oscar said chaotic I immediately thought of “there’s chaos in you” and “Embrace the chaos”
@lj51907 ай бұрын
Nice to see Poe and Hux getting along.
@azzyclark38608 жыл бұрын
This amazing yet incredibly overlooked film missed out on Best Supp Actress & Best Picture oscar nominations. Its Best Visual Effects win is deserved but it still doesn't do the film justice.
@randidumont308 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you.
@TheProphegy8 жыл бұрын
This film definitely deserved more attention. One of my favorite sci fi film in years.
@Zombiesnyder138 жыл бұрын
I was hopping Alex Garland to win for best screenplay
@Night_Crow867 жыл бұрын
yeah this movie is amazingly good!
@Luvie19806 жыл бұрын
Must you post the same comment on every ex machina video on KZbin? ....get a life!
@onatkorucu8422 жыл бұрын
the real science fiction part of this film is how a single male coder can be so tidy.
@squamish4244 Жыл бұрын
Robot slave.
@HiddenMis72 жыл бұрын
nathan is a bro and i would have respected the hell out of him if i was caleb
@christopheryanez3 жыл бұрын
Behold, the world’s most advanced smooth brain
@asadadon6 жыл бұрын
Well so long phone. 🙋♂️
@SithLordPrince5 жыл бұрын
This is a really revealing scene
@803mastiff94 жыл бұрын
Truth is hidden in satire.
@MrHartApart8 жыл бұрын
are the robots gonna be nice to us?
@ivanfreely63667 жыл бұрын
Probably not.
@koc9887 жыл бұрын
No robots work only on gathered data not anything else humans do that and us common sense (substitution) to analise and find the answer
@skippy5627 жыл бұрын
I was going to reply the exact same thing but I guess you're me.
@potato5117 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they'll be like anything this universe has produced, balanced
@Marshall_Thompson6 жыл бұрын
If they have reason to.
@foodworld886 жыл бұрын
I still like this character so much ( that one with glasses)
@akaSheilaalien6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful movie
@ashif216 жыл бұрын
General Hux and Poe
@ant33523 жыл бұрын
I feel like the person who creates true AI will be far less attractive
@Purefunkx3 жыл бұрын
Smart enough to make the AI... Not smart enough to limit the physical abilities of the robot until AI is perfected.
@Purefunkx3 жыл бұрын
@TheHeatShack You must perfect the AI first to give no chance of the robot attacking you. While perfecting that AI you make the robot unable to attack you with substantial force by tuning down the amount of pressure and force able to be use by said robot. Then even if the robot attacks it can be easily overpowered by the human maker. Get my point now?
@dimmacommunication3 жыл бұрын
@@Purefunkx True , but still using a sharp knife doesn't require huge amount of pressure if on soft spots
@JoHn-gi1lb2 жыл бұрын
Lol, her physical abilities were just enough to put on clothes and open doors, that's enough to stab someone. And the other girl died after her jaw fell off
@kingboobs202 жыл бұрын
Except they're not shown to be very strong at all, Ava failed to overpower him and Kyoko only managed to stab him because he ignored her and didn't consider her a threat.
@squamish4244 Жыл бұрын
Arrogant, like most tech bros.
@KSATica16 күн бұрын
Movie has been truly inspiring.
@FendiGarcon12 жыл бұрын
Oscar issac, Guy Pearce, Sam Rockwell. Are the OGs that don’t need to say anything. If you know you know. They’re the goats.
@beanut.putter3 жыл бұрын
"Structured gel...grab a straw Caleb it blueberry flavoured"
@1ron0xide9 ай бұрын
We NEED the extended disco scene to be released
@dan_hitchman0074 жыл бұрын
This is how Watson wakes up.
@acohen39518 жыл бұрын
The male star, Kalen (may be misspelled), acts more like a computer, with built in delays in his speech, than Ava, the AI Human Machine.
@graytonw52388 жыл бұрын
Really? I didn't get that at all. I thought Caleb (that was his name in the movie) was going through a range of emotions throughout the movie, including absolute awe and wonder at what he was seeing, which would normally cause anyone to pause and reflect before answering or asking a question.
@Nick6Michael8 жыл бұрын
I have a friend exactly like that, it doesn't mean they are robots but perhaps where shelter more than other people with books right in front of their face.
@cheyenneeagle48158 жыл бұрын
if you remember in the movie Caleb started to question if he was even human then he had that whole scene when he cut his arm to see if he would bleed.
@mogwai32427 жыл бұрын
Maybe your friend is a robot, who knows.
@jammiiee7 жыл бұрын
He played an AI in Black Mirror season 2 ep 1.
@secondbeamship2 ай бұрын
Hey, Vsauce, Michael here.
@notsoancientpelican3 жыл бұрын
What becomes possible, becomes inevitable
@csguakАй бұрын
Is this how Palpatine returned?
@chromosome242 жыл бұрын
the hardware IS the software.
@valenciadale35062 жыл бұрын
Nathan Bateman was an evil genius.
@No-vm7go4 жыл бұрын
Computational gel.
@TobeWilsonNetwork2 жыл бұрын
Kelly Bluebook does all that wow
@akis4287 жыл бұрын
origin of androids of Westworld jheje
@T--kq3pj4 жыл бұрын
2:10 Nathan talking about Delos from Westworld.
@timd5242 жыл бұрын
Google the search engine isn’t attempting to make AI by accident. Much like the scene, Google has been researching searching, and has been testing the Beta on “How” to think this entire time.
@alexciocca44513 жыл бұрын
Ads come sound off for me
@pHoTyPHoToN9 күн бұрын
Revelation of the method
@miloesalazar7 жыл бұрын
People must see this film.
@rajorab50553 жыл бұрын
Soon we'll have T-800's patrolling the streets keeping people in line.
@ImranAalin-m5w4 ай бұрын
Water
@emmanuelagudo4918 Жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful thought provoking scene. I just thought of a beautiful sequence for cinematography 'Boom! limitless resources.' + 'Too much raw material' + 'Boom! limitless resources.' = Empire not of land, but of the mind MOTHA******!. And then they lived happily ever after.
@RixMorales4 жыл бұрын
This is how I imagined the "control units" of the hosts in Westworld should be, not those unimpressive black pearls
@yanecphilipp33544 жыл бұрын
Poor Caleb
@bhargavk151514 күн бұрын
It's time...
@francisshortjr3 жыл бұрын
Sort of like on star trek voyager , neuro gel packs
@northwestalternativemedia21259 ай бұрын
Oh wow thats literally the chat gpt nuralnet and the tesla dojo minus the gel brain
@lef387811 ай бұрын
On regarde ça en amc
@josephmorales6527 жыл бұрын
back to aws training
@WingsHauser-f2d Жыл бұрын
Frankenstein 2.0
@IKIGAIofficial9 ай бұрын
Meanwhile Googles real AI turned out to be woke 😂
@josephpaladion2355 жыл бұрын
Structured jell? Will it ever even exist?..does it already?...sounds like something i would need to see with my own eyes before believing!
@squamish42445 жыл бұрын
The only way I can see something like this happening is if they develop AGI using DNA as a substrate as they have speculated. But I also don't know if would exist in a gell-like matrix. I don't know what Google's bottom-up approach is working on but it could still be silicon, or graphite, or maybe even DNA...I dunno. Almost all these companies are so secretive...like Nathan.
@josephpaladion2355 жыл бұрын
valar what does AGI stand for?
@squamish42445 жыл бұрын
Artificial general intelligence, or strong AI as Nathan refers to it. AI that is as smart or smarter than humans at basically everything. Not necessarily conscious or self-aware intelligence, however.
@josephpaladion2355 жыл бұрын
valar emotionally.. A situation where something is morally right to do but could harm you in the process..like putting your life on the for a cause..things of that nature!!..like you said self awareness!!..and consciousness!!
@squamish42445 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest concerns of AI philosophers - and, one hopes, all AI researchers as well - is how to code morality or human values into it. So that, even if it is an unconscious super-powerful machine, it will still work to help humans and not control or destroy us simply by following its programming.
@2degucitas3 жыл бұрын
What is Bluebook?
@bassacoustic15493 жыл бұрын
I think it’s something Nathan created that’s like Google.
@greatfood93573 жыл бұрын
@@bassacoustic1549 What does it do exactly?
@bassacoustic15493 жыл бұрын
@@greatfood9357 not sure. Some kind of search engine? I can’t remember if they go into detail in the movie
@greatfood93573 жыл бұрын
@@bassacoustic1549 It's probably a meta-search engine, since it's a bit similar to google; but a lot more powerful: can you guess nathan's net worth? ( give an estimation on how much he's worth. )
@bassacoustic15493 жыл бұрын
@@greatfood9357 difficult to say. Hundreds of millions, or into the low billions?
@dustinbreithaupt9331 Жыл бұрын
Interesting to see what they got correct now that real AGI is right around the corner
@Gyork_11 ай бұрын
The director and Writter of the Movie Andrew Garland hang around with Silcon valley tech dudes for a while before making the movie so he knew what was up, I'd also recommend watching a great mini series called Devs that he also wrote and directed after, that one talks about the other Tech race going on right now with Quantum computers if you want to get freaked out about what it could mean for the future
@sft86938 ай бұрын
True. Real. John and Me 😮
@paulbali99983 жыл бұрын
awesome
@SHOKNI3 жыл бұрын
How can I make this brain with resin???? Heeeeelp Please
@claushellsing4 жыл бұрын
How a feel after creating my first neural network in R
@IwinMahWay Жыл бұрын
Why would you do it in R?
@blankavatar765453 жыл бұрын
When I saw this scene This is when I got The Doc Brown flash of the flux capacitor. I wish this tech was real so I could use it to upload all my memory and data I collect so I could shift it into then once humanity figure out to implant brains in to living synthetic bodies The Wetware brain that I had would translate it into the new bodies for the rest of eternity. I hope they create this tech before I die!
@Katya_Lastochka3 жыл бұрын
Is this a movie or a documentary?
@dimmacommunication3 жыл бұрын
movie :)
@e.erin. Жыл бұрын
No one seemed (or seems) to notice that the intricacies/line patterns in Ava’s drawings match those of her wetware “brain”. Look closely. Then search her drawings. Particularly the first one that she shares with Caleb. He asks her what it is, and she tells him she doesn’t know? It’s her brain.
@sft86938 ай бұрын
Gods Lab ❤
@adike53 жыл бұрын
nice
@tungstenkid22714 жыл бұрын
Did Caleb escape at the end or was he trapped in that glass room and eventually died of starvation?
@stupidmclovin4 жыл бұрын
Trapped
@tungstenkid22714 жыл бұрын
@@stupidmclovin How can we be sure? Perhaps his friends and relatives came looking for him and let him out?
@WhoopityDoo2 жыл бұрын
@@tungstenkid2271 Did you not see the beginning of the movie where the helicopter pilot explained they had been flying for 2 hours over his entire estate? His place was remote and locked away from humanity. Only outside person who even knew of its existence seemed to be the pilot, and you had to have special credentials to even get in.
@tungstenkid22712 жыл бұрын
@@WhoopityDoo - yeah but how do you get out?
@master-of-mind58812 жыл бұрын
@@tungstenkid2271 you don’t. He’s locked in there until he’s lying in a bed if his own pee.
@tonycarver27454 жыл бұрын
M. Nght usually does a cameo in his movies, when i watched this for the first time i recall i didn't see him in it...does anyone know if he was?
@-Zakhiel-4 жыл бұрын
Who is M. Nght ???
@fabiangutierrez1484 жыл бұрын
Tony Carver are we talking about the avatar movie guy?
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW03 жыл бұрын
M. Night shylaman didn't make this movie
@haythemmaatouk47 Жыл бұрын
Chatgpt
@HenryCasillas2 жыл бұрын
💜
@samkresil60117 жыл бұрын
Flashbacks?
@gerdaleta7 ай бұрын
it has been done welcome your new god and master chat gtp omga
@osotestigo3386 Жыл бұрын
Why is this robot recognized as a female?
@ExtremeAvenger4 жыл бұрын
Hey Hey You wanna see something cool? No
@dannymartial79973 жыл бұрын
If only Elon focused his money and energy into making robo-girlfriends instead of electric cars...
@pepleatherlab38723 жыл бұрын
The obstacle ultimately becomes more of a why? Rather than a how? The expense of time and resources in creating an advanced A.I. to accomplish,..what? Something a human can already do? If one isn't filling a starship with them to explore hazardous outer space, than the point become null and void. May as well be adopting and training orphans otherwise. Certainly less expensive.
@shizzlenizzle3 жыл бұрын
AI not only has durability, longevity, moldability, etc compared to a human, but it also has programmability. Yes, there could be space exploration AI, but what about ocean exploration, non-stop/durable workers, military, etc. Overlooking Sci-Fi and Hollywood, AI is still humanity's natural progression as AI can be modified, once the technology gets there, to be better than humans. That is inevitable unless we nuke ourselves, get fried by a massive solar wave, get hit by lethal asteroid, Yellowstone erupts, etc. Humans are inefficient, require numerous life support resources, entertainment, etc. Humans also have independent thought that is also difficult to control and navigate. Again, suggesting why AI has more potential than humans. Our only edge is intuition and creativity, which inevitably, AI will eventually develop to some extent.