Ex-Trad Wives Get Candid About the Downside of the Lifestyle

[@LifeWithAdi_]

I’ve seen good women and mothers stay in a relationship after being disrespected by their husbands and they stay because they don’t have anything for themselves, nothing in the bank that’s theirs, no jobs, no retirement plan. They stay because they didn’t have a back up plan, they couldn’t even fall back on themselves anymore, they lost themselves 😢

[@davewriter100]

The kids, Adi. You forgot that they also stay together for the kids, so they can have two parents.

[@Angaloth19]

@@davewriter100 No kid says “thank God my parents didn’t divorce even though I witnessed them hate each other and there was palpable tension in the home.” In this case it would be “I’m so glad my parents stayed together even after my dad started paying for sex with girls my age. My dad, of course, being the prototype of the kinds of men I’ll pursue.” I personally wish my parents had divorced, because I might have had a snowball’s chance in hell at remotely healthy childhood. But they didn’t, and now I’m no contact with one of my parents. Is that better?

[@davewriter100]

@@Angaloth19 I'm just saying that parents also claim they stay in the marriage so children will have two parents. They very likely saw more single parents struggling, children crying for their dads, and they didn't want that for themselves.

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

@@Angaloth19 I understand. My dad was very physically abusive. Mom did work a bit, but mostly stayed home, until widowhood. She always struggled. We spent time on welfare as well. I was the oldest and 12 when dad died, so I saw and heard the most, and remember it all. I have had a very hard time w/ relationships. Longest 10 years and he cheated. My younger brother and sister have managed to stay in marriage and commonlaw, but they didn't bear the brunt of witnessing what I did. My sister remembers nothing, my brother only some.

[@pro-choicemom]

What’s the most sick about this is the women who put up with their husbands abusing and sexually abusing their children because they have nothing- at that point you are nothing.

[@jackiecolbert3915]

So true my mom was a stay at home mom. My father was in charge of the money. I remember when he wouldn't give her money. I was married 21yrs and my ex husband threw me away to go with another woman. I never really made much money. I had to beg for alimony while his girlfriend was telling him a bunch of crap. You live your life trying to please your husband and children. To in the end have nothing to show for it. Divorced at 43 and had to start over. Thank yall for speaking the truth.

[@octaviakf]

When a person rejects a spouse money that’s called financial abuse

[@watermelonlover745]

​@@octaviakfwhat if she's buying coach bags when kids are hungry

[@michellepalmer1160]

​@watermelonlover745 stop it...

[@Goldengirl132]

You’ll be fine Jackie ..he did not throw you away . He did you a favor . Now it’s your time to focus on you and your dreams !! When the time is right and you have done the work .. then and only then will the right man come in to your life. The best is yet to come!!

[@Quilt4Joy]

I’m sorry you that happen to you.

[@ambernicole5982]

Everyone should learn how to be self-sufficient. There is nothing good about codependency. Culturally, I don't see enough balance.

[@seadonkey6913]

Translation: no man wants you, become insecure and act like a man.

[@Wendy1973-wl5lr]

I agree. Mom's make sure all of your children can be self sufficient.

[@danyelleorr-mcneil4711]

​@Wendy1973-wl5lr and I agree with you. On the flip side, even how your comment was directed at moms to make sure their children are self sufficient is part of the problem: WE as the moms have to take on the task of making sure! Where is the accountability for dads? I could go deeper, but you see what I mean? No disrespect to you, though. My comment is directed at the programming of it all.

[@LovelyJordy]

​@@amazingkids9770a lot of us can. I know a lot of women living alone. Including myself. We aren't struggling.

[@lanaleightaylor9587]

I live in Hollywood. I once knew a lady, who loved and wanted the trad wife life. She and her husband were baby boomers. She was super educated, had even went to law school. But, she didn't want to work again. She had held an excellent job with the City for many years, before getting married. Her husband promised her the life she wanted and for a while it worked. She loved homemaking. Her husband was wonderful, loving and very successful behind the scenes in Hollywood. He started having health issues and accidents on set. Money was up and down. She never got that million dollar house in the Hollywood Hills she dreamed of. She went back to work reluctantly. She even went to community college and added to her degree. One day her husband had a stroke and died. You just never know how things could turn. I'm not against women choosing to be homemakers. It's a personal choice. I just say, have real working skills, a degree, a trade... something you can use if the worse happens. My mom did not have a plan. My dad was abusive and left when I was an infant, after 17 yrs of marriage. She lived off of our child support and panicked every year we got closer to 18. She was a seamstress and in the 80s the factories were all shipped to china. She could not catch up with the world. She lacked the confidence and her self esteem was shattered after years of domestic violence. By God's grace, things worked out for her. She had loving supportive parents and eventually got SSI and SSA. My mom always says she regrets not learning more, going after her dreams etc. Ladies, please have a solid back up plan and talk to real trad wives who have lived a while. They can give you some solid wisdom. 🙏💞

[@lifeisbeautiful9455]

My father didn’t work… abused his whole family, lost my mother to it. He is a narcissist. Abused my mother everyday. Only had us around for government assistance. This was 31 years ago, she was 39 and gone. She tried her whole life to get away from him. He was in the house every day doing nothing but watching tv, bringing other women around and she kept lesbian g we were on the run for years. Cops family didn’t do nothing. We had a good five years away. It was rough at times. Just when she was working, going back to school her life was over. He wouldn’t leave us alone. Even when I had to live with him, he and my two brothers he went right back to $20 a week for food while he kept all the money for himself. While we ate once a day and I got a job at 5 but he believes women should be in the house and not be educated. He preys on women, libra like Nick cannon. Stay away from air signs and Sagittarius men please.

[@enumajek1764]

There's no way in this day & age that being a totally dependent-on-husband "trad wife" is good because life is just too unpredictable. The man can find someone else, he could die, he could become disabled, he can just change and it's not like women are marrying at young ages where they hadn't acquired any skills prior to marriage, so they should just keep doing what they were doing b4 they got married. When the kids come, they can change to part-time hours/gig jobs/start their own small company/work with their husband's company if he is a business owner etc, but to solely depend on another human being in this day & age in a trad wife role is signing up for the unknown & isn't advisable...

[@angieowen1165]

I watched my mother be the 20th Century stay at home Mom. I can remember even as a young child how I felt bad for her, I'm also Gen X, so some of my friends had Mom's who worked outside the home. I knew as a child I'd never make the perfect traditional stay at home Mom. When my husband and I decided to get married, I had told him it was a deal breaker if he expected me to be a SAHM. Right after we got married my father passed away with cancer and there was my mother at age 45 no income and no education. She went back to school with one child still at home, and that furthered my argument to my husband that I needed to be able to support myself and any children we had if something were to happen to him. 35 years and 2 children later he is very thankful for my income.

[@mjohnson1741]

Beautiful!❤

[@One-z6y]

SMART!!!!

[@lifetaketwo7662]

The way they had Tamron read a statement from my ex husband, who was a brutally violent abuser for 24 years of marriage and then almost ended my life during our divorce, was pretty blindsiding. He’s not up to date on anything, and I wasn’t asked for the bank statements, court orders, arrears reports, eviction notices or ANYTHING before this statement being read on air. The show needs to be more protective of its guests who are domestic violence survivors. Tamron was amazing, but the producers really failed on this one.

[@STAWTEREHWYREVE-dx7si]

Exactly!!! I had tears in my eyes when I saw your reaction, it filled me with so much rage afterwards. The abuse continues for the rest of your life, every time you are reminded of the past or whenever somebody comes up with bs like THERE ARE ALWAYS TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY ... society refusing to believe the 'victims/survivers' and refusing to change feels like another gut punch. I'm sure you read some of the comments hiding under other comments. You and the other guest are both being blamed for simply marrying the wrong men and not making the 'right' decisions in life. These kind of people are the reason why our species is going nowhere, why women on this planet still remain poor and powerless. I'm glad there are individuals like you in this world, your bravery and honesty are helping me to stay sane - thank you so much!

[@maam-yj8ph]

Thank you for bravely sharing your story. I am sorry if there were any negative repercussions in your personal life for doing so.

[@Laura_N_Nengo]

We know official statements aren't true statements

[@upperreality]

I saw your face at 6:46 when she said they legally had to reach out your husband and he denied everything and said he’s up to date on his payments and stuff. I was very mad for you. Thanks for being so brave.

[@lifetaketwo7662]

Yes. And they didn’t warn me beforehand. I had documents to support everything I said, he had nothing but two sentences on the phone.

[@JeanetteDelgado-x3c]

Tradwife life is fun the first few years but becomes exhausting just like everything in life, it becomes routine and if you’re not careful you can lose your identity

[@seadonkey6913]

That’s because you’re based in feminism.

[@LisaLisaCJ]

Married 26 years. I worked but was underemployed and no degree. My husband decided to leave, cleaned out the bank accounts when I was laid off. Refused to pay the bills, took our daughters college money. We lost our home and my daughter and I had to live in a hotel. We had to rebuild. Bankrupt, broke, no car, bad credit. My daughter refuses to ever marry and have kids after what her father did. And I always blew off advice of keeping money and all the things older woman told me. Oh pick a good guy. Well he was one until midlife kicked in. Then it was the “ I never loved you” “ I never agreed to you being at home” We never had anything because of you” yeah……..

[@JaneSmith-j7e]

It's funny how they want to keep you in the house for themselves and a few years later figure out that it's a good idea for their wives to work. But years were spent without additional income and no gaining work experience. How you change that?

[@lifeisbeautiful9455]

My father didn’t work… abused his whole family, lost my mother to it. He is a narcissist. Abused my mother everyday. Only had us around for government assistance. This was 31 years ago, she was 39 and gone. She tried her whole life to get away from him. He was in the house every day doing nothing but watching tv, bringing other women around and she kept lesbian g we were on the run for years. Cops family didn’t do nothing. We had a good five years away. It was rough at times. Just when she was working, going back to school her life was over. He wouldn’t leave us alone. Even when I had to live with him, he and my two brothers he went right back to $20 a week for food while he kept all the money for himself. While we ate once a day and I got a job at 5 but he believes women should be in the house and not be educated. He preys on women, libra like Nick cannon. Stay away from air signs and Sagittarius men please.

[@lifeisbeautiful9455]

Men are something else but extra money never hurt nobody. My ex stole from me and had another family. Thank God I never married him or had kids. He tried to live off me and I put him out.

[@pro-choicemom]

@@lifeisbeautiful9455 Is your father still alive & who did he vote for? I bet im right.

[@ZBM-jj1xr]

My parents both grew up in single parent homes. My dad due to grandpa dying young and my mom due to grandpa leaving the family for another woman and never looking back. They both saw their mothers struggle enormously to put food on the table. Both my parents came from a very traditional, religious background with traditional gender roles. Neither of them came anywhere close to being liberal or feminist in their political views, but one thing they did believe in: they loved me enough to not want me to have to struggle in life. That's why they encouraged me to get my education and have a career. They still wanted me to get married and have children and have all of that, they just also wanted me to be safe and be able to take care of myself if need be. This push for the tradwife lifestyle is nothing more than an illusion. The women pushing it are working as influencers and making bank, while cosplaying being the financially dependent housewife with no back up plan. You're literally watching their back up plan and they will be fine if something happens, unlike the naive 20 year olds that think putting their entire existence into the hands of another is a full proof plan for the rest of their lives. The only people that benefit from complete financial dependency are abusers. Any partner worth a damn that truly cares for your well being will want you to be financially safe. Do not let yourself get scammed into poverty.

[@vanessamunni7521]

i agree, its cute when you're younger and hot. once you old, you will know what a man is capable of.

[@TijuanaK]

Hell, when you young too! 😂

[@Quilt4Joy]

You never really know a person until the divorce.

[@songbird1920]

Amen!!! 💯💥💯

[@seadonkey6913]

Hahaha, 304’s!

[@pianorelaxingmusics]

@@seadonkey6913 haha ya, you and all these deadbeat husbands

[@BlackandBlessed100]

Too many married women are divorcing and left with no money and no income and all they did was birth a whole nation 💔 Protect Women and Mothers now

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

According to the red pill men, women divorce because they paid so well to do it. They claim that men are always get taken to the cleaners. I know some men get pretty broke after, but more women are in poverty after a divorce than the men ever are, and statistics prove it. I think they are mad just because laws are in place that they can't just leave their wives w/ no income, no child support and none of the family assets, as they used to.

[@LeahBreHappy]

❤❤❤so true! I'm on of those 😢 16 years and two kids, left him in the night and now I have to ask my parents for money while he's engaged and lots of money!

[@Wendy1973-wl5lr]

Even though I was left with absolutely nothing I could not be happier.

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

I was in a thread that was once again extolling all that men do to maintain and build society. These are valid discussions, since many woman are either ignorant, or get fed up and decide they don't need men at all. We do, even if no longer in a relationship w/ one. What got me was some young red pill smart aleck asked me what women contributed to society, as if we contribute nothing and men do it all single handedly. I told him if he was so logical, as they claim they are, then he could surely put on his thinking cap and figure it out. He wanted me to spell it all out for him, and did this little victory dance that I didn't, claiming I couldn't think of anything either. Of course i know better than to waste my time w/ that game, because he'd only shoot down and disqualify every point I made. That is the attitude of a growing army of men, indoctrinated w/ red pill.

[@RobinSpeer]

I was never a SAHW, I have always worked and told my husband that the ONLY way I would consider having children is if we had a house and I could stay home until the kids were old enough to fend for themselves. I'm glad that I never became a "trad wife" because fussing over the house and making food and raising children would have ruined me. There were times I wished I could stay home but glad that I didn't. Unless you have a healthy, equitable relationship with your spouse the "trad wife" thing is like walking in a mine field. The only advice I would give to a person that wants to be a "trad wife" is to get a prenup or some other legal document and keep a separate bank account for yourself so that you are not running out with just the clothes on your back.

[@bernicesanders3148]

I think moderation in all things is key. I don't agree with the statement that ALL women that live this way secretly regret this way of living.

[@melodramatic7904]

I'm curious. What would moderation look like in this case?

[@KeriReloaded]

I agree. Like the lady said, do it with the seat belt. Wisdom is learning through the experiences of others

[@bernicesanders3148]

@@melodramatic7904 learning how to do everything the husband does so that in the event of circumstance change, you can still function. Get a hobby that challenges your mind to maintain mind agility. He is still happy running the household and you are not losing your life skill abilities.

[@smagee7548]

Well yea, but let’s talk about the qualities of those women who don’t regret it. They likely are much better of socially

[@StefanTaf]

no one said that

[@D_A_Marv]

Enitza should seek therapy. Sounds like she was in a controlled relationship

[@vegasheart]

She may already be in Therapy.

[@rubychew6535]

Jenny is saying that you are an adult depending on a man. You don't have your own money and you don't have any viewpoints.

[@johnsoncarter104]

Watch the movie Stepford Wives, cause this sounds more like that.

[@fastlanerun1]

You can get this horrible feeling in a career too....its called burnout I agree with wearing a seat belt in your career as well as a care giver

[@cheryldian]

Jenny had a controlling husband, the Mormon lifestyle is traditionally difficult

[@tinaf600]

So true. It's so sad. Not biblical at all.

[@melindakathriner4148]

Being a homemaker is challenging in ANY religion. Not all husbands are controlling. Mormonism does not condone one spouse dominating the other, and it is unfortunate that society still misjudges us Mormons in this way.

[@originalkandicekellynews]

​@@melindakathriner4148Of course you would say it's not.

[@cherylharris8654]

Marriage is like rolling the dice. I learned we all change and your spouse can love you one day and the next day he’s taking up with his co worker. I was fortunate I had a good job that payed well. I learned from my mom when I was young to have a career and your own money. If I didn’t have my job I would have been in the same situation as these women . Don’t depend on your spouse for your money because spouses also pass away.

[@evonza4858]

I thank her for her honesty 😉👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@Sheisme120]

Freedom, confidence, and autonomy are infinitely more important than having a husband! So glad you women are speaking out!💜💜💜

[@Hispromise11]

Sorry that she experienced that, but it sounds like she had a controlling spouse hint “you can’t think for yourself”. It’s not fair to put everyone in the same category as if all will experience what she experienced 😢

[@themalawiandiner180]

My sentiments exactly, not being able to choose toothpaste sounds like prison, her trad wife dynamic was extreme and toxic, i believe there are healthy traditional relationships.

[@choconethotcoco4717]

If 50% of marriages end in divorce then 50% of these trad wife marriages will are also end the same way! Don't discount, push her warnings aside because you just don't want it to apply to you. Nobody is saying that it does. Just LISTEN AND LEARN file it away you may or may not need it!!!

[@choconethotcoco4717]

@@themalawiandiner180 Nobody ever said there was! They are warning you to LISTEN AND LEARN! When people talk about stuff like this the first thing people do is hide their head in the sand because you don't want it to happen to you. Nobody is saying that it will what she's saying is for anyone who may end up like her. If that's not you then PRAISE GOD!!!

[@themalawiandiner180]

@@choconethotcoco4717 I am a little traditional myself, so i do understand the dynamic, my parents were in a healthy traditional relationship. This woman was in an abusive relationship, not a traditional relationship, i guess her understanding of traditional is different from mine, also choosing the right partner in any type of relationship dynamic is pivotal. I have listened, but i don't see the lesson in it. If someone was in an Egalitarian relationship and was abused, that tells you Egalitarian relationships ard bad? Cause that seems to be the rationale you are putting forward, the same episode showed happy traditional couples too, what about them? I think people should heed warnings, but also look at things critically, before taking something and running with it. Traditional relationships are not bad, neither are Egalitarian relationships, but one has to have the self awareness, good vetting skills to choose what works for them and whom to do it with. BTW you don't need to shout to make a point, it's unnecessary and rude.

[@ameliagreenleaf8001]

It’s not just about choosing the right person though, godforbid your husband dies or is unable to work anymore. If you have no way of supporting yourself, your screwed.

[@carmellasimpson4514]

It has NEVER been a good way to live!!!!! Take care of yourself and partner with a human being who care about the happiness and welfare of the relationship.

[@jennifermanian1420]

I hope these younger women are listening to the older women. I ended up a single woman in my 30s. My son and I would never have made it without my parents. There is nothing fulfilling about cleaning the same house over and over. Being a Trad wife is boring and you begin to wonder if you still have a brain to think wife.

[@Njitagwo_Shiro]

Lol, a brain to think

[@franjohnson6140]

When you are a Trad wife, have a secondary skill and update your skill every 3 to 5 years!

[@djamburere]

I would only consider being a SAHM if I reach financial independence and have enough passive income to live off for the rest of my life, not dependent on my husband. Otherwise, I will not leave my future on his hands. Not only he can leave, but he can become disabled or die. Then what?!

[@helenatube]

I think Enitza needs to understand other people have their own experiences and don't necessarily align with everything she says, but she makes a good point that a lot of people also deny their own unhappiness to avoid the truth. I think she's brave.

[@roseambat5110]

Great segment!! Thanks for the honesty and exposing reality!! It will help a lot of young women

[@9monava]

I was lucky and got to stay home with my daughter for 4 years. Then she went to school and I went to work part time and went to graduate school at night. I was lucky to have a bank account, credit card, good credit, a husband who supports my creative interests and a BA and work history well under my belt before I got these lovely 4 years. No regrets and we are ok financially. There is a way to achieve some balance.

[@themalawiandiner180]

Self-awareness is key, i know i wouldn't be happy washing dishes and cleaning alone for the rest of my life, let alone a month, i would need a husband who chirps in to help out or hired help and i would need a part-time job or something of the sort as well, otherwise i would be super bored. I know trying to do everything too, is tiring for me and i want to be provided for. So people should know themselves, what they enjoy and what they don't and choose the path that brings them happiness and fulfillment.

[@cherylespeckerman3216]

There is nothing wrong with being a mom and wife who stays home or chooses to raise her children. There are always trade offs as well for all women--working or not. It all depends on what you would like to do in life and where God has you for that season. Some women go back to work when the kids are older, start businesses or do other things. But if you aren't feeling the passion and are so resentful of where you are, plus are being bullied in the process, it's time to reassess your priorities and where you are in your relationship. It's not marriage, being a trad wife or mother. It's that man you married and it may not be all his fault either. You are 50% of that relationship dynamic.

[@nightwishisthegreatestband6355]

Why the hell would anyone agree to a lifestyle that screws them in the future? It's not that easy hoing back to work after your kids are older, because you literally have to start over. Also, people change. Nobody willingly marries an abusive spouse. Sometimes the mask falls off after the wedding ir after pregnancy. You can't predict this.

[@JeromeAverett-wy9xl]

It never occurred to her that Feminism was a reaction to abuse, oppression and misogyny?

[@Angaloth19]

You believe what your parents tell you. Psychology shows us that the same-sex parent is the single biggest influence in a child’s entire life, even as adults. I was also told to be a trad wife by my mom. The only thing that stopped me was the fact that I’ve know I was childfree since age 8. If I had wanted kids, I know I’d also have been a trad wife… a scary thought. I’m so happy I’m not!!

[@ajohonly3721]

Oh my goodness I’m sorry they went through this. I’m a housewife with 3 children I’m not planning to be home forever but! Right now it’s the right decision for our family. My husband income is good for life that we are living. I’m also not just spending every single penny I save and invest some of my money.

[@Westcoastmom65]

How can people afford to live on one income?

[@octaviakf]

They’re living in poor American economic locations. For example Iowa basically the mid west type areas the cost of living is low in those areas ( Detroit has homes for $9,000 Ohio same in some places)

[@chanj2109]

Hi! One income family here living in a big city in the Northeast. We paid off our debts (student loans, credit cards, and cars) We bought a small house that kept mortgage under 2k a month (with help of city programs to get us into a house.) We rented out our basement for a year to make extra income. Covid turned us into a 1 income family. I stayed home with kids, and, as husband's income went up, we didn't go up in house or expenses. He now makes $130k. This is our dual income amount from 5 years ago.

[@Westcoastmom65]

@chan… that’s great. I consider renting the basement earning double income. But that is great

[@amechecameron3217]

Poorer quality of life. Penny pinching instead of working and providing adequately.

[@oneandonly1990]

Forcing your family to live in poverty under the guise of "we live frugal...you don't need all the extra stuff like vacations or new clothes".

[@diptik9632]

Im so glad my mom wasn't a Trad Wife...she started working as a teacher when i was big enough to take care of myself..... Now she has a stable job n wage which partially supports our family finances when dad's been suffering financially now

[@Vic2point0]

I'm with the tradwives. My wife and I have lived this way for 16 years now (13 with a son) and we're both very glad we did. That being said, both the husband and wife have to be traditional for it to work (e.g., husband must accept that his role is to provide for, protect, love and honor the wife), and I would actually recommend courting rather than just dating. Ask the important questions right away, before strong feelings have any chance of being caught. Because as we all know, once you "fall in love" with someone, you're going to start ignoring/downplaying those red flags. There's also nothing traditional about the wife not making some decisions on her own. As the traditional gender role of the wife is to take care of the home, she needs to have the authority to do that. So it sounds like these women were in very controlling relationships at best, abusive relationships at worst. But both the husband and wife should be considering each other's feelings, likes, and preferences while making a purchase (groceries, furniture, etc.) Again, get to know your significant other's habits and tendencies regarding this sort of thing right away before you even consider marrying them. That's good advice for both men and women.

[@pro-choicemom]

What money does your wife have that is her own? There’s nothing like earning your own money. I couldn’t sleep at night knowing my life depends on someone else’s livelihood. I’ve been married 26yrs & stayed home to raise our child. Once my daughter was old enough i got back to work. While at home i still earned my own money making children’s birthday party decorations on Etsy. Imagine a woman with a husband abusing their child and she bas nothing. What happens then? This is just bad advice, no woman or man should be economically beholden to a spouse or partner.

[@Vic2point0]

@@pro-choicemom My wife and I don't have our "own" money, we are one (that's what marriage means). And she finds it more desirable to depend on me than to depend on an employer who's under no obligation to care about her whatsoever. As for abuse, it's far more important to learn to spot the signs of an abusive person than to worry about who's making the money and who isn't. That goes for men and women both.

[@pro-choicemom]

@ An employer has legal responsibilities. An employer can’t deny wages. A husband may or may not give his wife money. Next thing you know the man makes her vote a certain way or doesn’t let her vote. Women shouldn’t have to gamble with their lives on whether their husbands will turn out to be a POS or not. And whether your wife admits it or not she knows everything she does has to please you or she is effed- that’s no way to live. Part of having being married 26yrs is i can tell my husband to eff off, if i dont feel like cooking that day im not, i can demand help around the house, i spend my personal money on whatever i want as long as we are financially responsible elsewhere. You have no idea what it is like to not have financial freedom. To each their own I suppose. Good luck to your wife, may she not end up regretting her choice while she had choice.

[@Vic2point0]

@@pro-choicemom "An employer has legal responsibilities." Yeah, but there's a ton of legal ways they can screw you over. By contrast, your spouse is expected to actually care about you. And especially if you go the traditional route of courting as opposed to just dating, you can vet them to make sure your values are in sync. "A husband may or may not give his wife money." Ah but a traditional husband believes it is his role to provide and protect. And tradwife types are usually looking for traditional husband types. "Next thing you know the man makes her vote a certain way or doesn’t let her vote." That's why you get to know the person before getting married. And a non-traditional marriage can be abusive just as easily. You're not preventing abuse by choosing non-traditional marriage; it's still far more important to take your time before doing things like having sex (trad principle, BTW) than it is to worry about who's making the money and who's cooking dinner. "And whether your wife admits it or not she knows everything she does has to please you or she is effed-" Luckily neither of us are that type of person (It's part of why we chose eachother). But now talk to the so-called "red pill" types, and they will tell you the exact opposite- that the *woman* has all the power in a marriage and if the *man* doesn't please *her* in every single way *he's* effed. "Part of having being married 26yrs is i can tell my husband to eff off, if i dont feel like cooking that day im not" Yikes. So it sounds like you are in favor of *some* kind of abusive relationship, just not one in which the man is the abuser...

[@StrongopinionsRus]

I was a “trad wife” for many years. I’m now in my 50s and I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend it. HOWEVER, I had an education and work experience. We have adequate life insurance should tragedy strike. My name was on all our accounts, deeds, etc. we have joint accounts and I am the named beneficiary on all the retirement accounts. I have credit cards in my name and a credit history. My being home gave our family a peace and stability we could not have had otherwise. The problem is when this lifestyle is forced on women or when women are infantalized. Jennie Gage has said her husband would give her money for the housekeeping in an envelope and that is WHACK. Ms. Templeton is extremely disrespectful to suggest that any woman who says she loves being a traditional wife is delusional. Just because her experience was negative doesn’t mean everyone is being exploited. Ms Gage’s perspective is far more balanced and respectful.

[@carolynlucca3269]

Hello. I am the Trad most people fear and talk about, though rarely think deeply about. You can call me the “Trad Widow.” The man of my dreams, the love of my life, was taken from me two years ago in an accident. I should be out on the street, penniless, clueless, and unable to care for my 10 children. Well, some of the realities are that I have 3 children and though I love romance novels he insisted I learn about personal finance and the stock market since that is what he did. I am clueless about our money, where it is, how to find it, according to the detractors of how I choose my life but surprise, I know where everything is (was), every password, and collected on his life insurance, and have a high 700 credit score. To be fair, I will admit I am somewhat of what they think a Trad Wife is. I am a deeply devout woman of faith. At the end of every day before bed I get on my knees and pray for the safety and health of my family. To be honest my faith is what got me through my husband’s death. I can bake just about anything, but only do it a few times a year for holidays, birthdays, etc. and I certainly don’t do it in couture and you won’t find videos of me cleaning my house in my bra and panties and not even able to shower before 10. How about my freshly cleaned blouse that 3 month old daughter just spits up on…nope..not good content either. Feminism was supposed to give us, as women, the right to choose our path but when I choose to do it with traditional roles they look at me like I’m a traitor. Their hypocrisy is appalling!

[@mignalyortiz4589]

What I always wonder about trad wives is, what happens when it's time to retire? You can't get social security if you've never worked. How do you support yourself?

[@RobinSpeer]

That's part of the problem, young people don't look far into the future and then they are stuck in old age.

[@tessajones9393]

Or divorce when older. Women in their 50s + is a high rate of homelessness

[@Angaloth19]

The problem is they don’t get to retire. They’ll always be the one expected to clean, cook, do laundry, dishes, run errands, etc. until the day they die. Only the man gets to retire.

[@annacoats2988]

A traditional wife and stay at home wife are 2 different things. In this economy most married couples each have a job. Some women are able to take a few years off to raise their children. Not all women get married at 19 and 20. A lot of women get married later in life. Of course if any person has never had a job they don't get retirement or social security. Some folks do live off welfare.

[@anastasia10017]

my mom was a trad wife and financially dependent on my dad. He gave her a monthly allowance. He controlled all the finances. When I think about it, I cannot imagine a man giving me an allowance. It seems very childlike to me. Now I am not saying my parents were happily married, but my mom's only concept of life was to be a stay at home wife. She had no other options and she did not have the education or work experience to divorce. She brought me up to be like her and marriage and a husband was so important. Of course, I worked etc.. but If I had a daughter, I would have brought her up to buy her own house by age 25, get her finances in order before she even thought of getting married or having a serious relationship with a man. A woman today cannot rely on a man or on the divorce courts giving her alimony. A woman has to be self sufficient and be able to walk away from an abusive relationship. More importantly, the husband has to know that his wife can leave him at any time and that he does not have her trapped.

[@stupka1111]

My mom (a late babyboomer) always told me to be independent and a self-sufficient woman. She was and is a great example. I have a friend that has lost all her financial independence with her marriage and she is a miserable person. All it took was only 5 years! And her mother gives her the worst advice, like to stay with the husband that doesn't love her...

[@MsMockingbird06]

The women on Skype was much more balanced and at least encouraged women to make decisions that are best for them. I can see a lot of pain in the other woman and I hope she finds healing. With her, I saw a lot of projection, ridicule, and black and white thinking towards this lifestyle. It sounds as though she was actually in an abusive relationship rather than the issue being a relationship with traditional gender roles.

[@melodramatic7904]

They both were in abusive relationships. I saw some of the online content from the woman on Skype. Her husband literally tried to kill her. The problem with these relattionships with traditional gender roles is that they very often turn into abusive relationships. Not all abuse is physical. The most common form of abuse I see from these relationships is financial. The man earns all the money so he controls how much of it she has access to. The woman on Skype said that even when she tried making her own money through a MLM, the husband put his name on HER MLM account and started having her checks deposited into his bank account. He basically stole her money. In both cases, the man left the wife for a younger woman and it turned out that everything was in his name, so the ended up with nothing. Sadly, this happens a lot. That's not even taking into account that a woman's husband could tragically die, or because unable to work (either by an accident or sickness). Life insurance is just a lump sum payment that very often doesn't even cover funeral expenses. It would be nice to be a trad wife and have everything work out, but that doesn't seem to happen in most cases and it is too dangerous for women to take that risk.

[@naibunty8909]

😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@NoWaySmokey8889]

She isn’t like that on TikTok. She’s very degrading of anyone who doesn’t want to have a career, abort their pregnancies, and be a boss bitch. Has very hateful.

[@tinachristine4573]

No. Don't do it. A man is not a financial plan. It really isn't, there's no upside to this lifestyle.

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

@@tinachristine4573 It's not that there is no upside to raising your children traditionally, w/ a good man, who treats you like a good husband, because you're his beloved wife. That is great. Just have safeguards in place. Have your own bank account, jointly own assets, have a savings plan and have some skills lined up. that's the admonition about it's not that you shouldn't drive, just do it w/ a seat belt.

[@evaprivate6593]

I’m a Traditional Wife in my forties very happily married . In past been working full time and full time homemaker/wife/mother and you can’t have it all. So grateful for the opportunity to be stay at home mom and take care of my family. My husband is awesome, we respect each other and love each other.

[@indigogirl5172]

That is wonderful. I just hope your husband stays loving you. If not you are SOL. I could not Live like that.

[@OneIncomeSuperSaver]

I am 49 years old and love my traditional marriage. Marrying the right spouse is key to keeping a healthy marriage. I take care of 100% of the bills. I do all the budgeting, housework and my loving hubby provides the income. We don’t look at it as his income..it’s both our income and

[@Vic2point0]

Well said!

[@teteihmathews]

Same here

[@indigogirl5172]

But do you have a prenup if you guys get divorced? Will you be protected financially?

[@MercedesChetuya]

I completely agree! I have been a traditional wife for 10 years. My husband is the main bread winner and I do all the budgeting, bill paying, housework and cooking. My heart breaks for these women because it sounds like they are coming from a broken place. Sometimes I am fearful about if we ever divorce but I know that God is my provider, He provided for me before my husband, He provides for me know, and god forbid, if we ever divorce, He will provide for me then. Lastly, they are touching on the downsides of being a traditional wife, but there are also negative impacts on marriages, children, and families when both parents are working.

[@mjohnson1741]

You're not paying attention. All these trad wives said the same when they were married. It's when divorced they were hit with the sobering reality. And the state you don't hear divorce older trad wives recommending the lifestyle?

[@Jaycarbrownie12]

If you give some the KEYS TO YOUR CAR THEY WILL DRIVE LOL

[@LisaMitchell-sz7zu]

Jennie’s sister here. For the record, our mom worked at a major corporation in downtown Portland for 20 years. Did she cook and take care of us? Yes. But she was very much a working mom. Just want to set the record straight.

[@NoWaySmokey8889]

Your sister seems like she is very bitter

[@fiestyblktina1237]

Where was the family and Mormon community support when she was going threw all of this? Did the men of that community go and check her ex husband for the things he was doing and position he put his family in? How did he get away with not providing financial support and letting his family struggle while he was with prostitutes? Why wasn't he excommunicated from the Mormon church? Would like to know my cousin married into a Mormon family out of Utah.

[@tranquility9325]

​@fiestyblktina1237 the one lady who was Mormon said the church said they would help her financially but they never did.

[@Angaloth19]

But you abandoned your sister because she stopped believing in your religion? So much for FaMiLy VaLuEs, you hypocrite. Pathetic. Family means nothing unless they completely submit to your narrow view of reality. You don’t know love.

[@AliciaTaylor-c6e]

These ladies just had crappy husbands 🙄 my mom was a trad wife while I grew up, and encouraged her daughters to do the same thing. She’s now nurse and still says she doesn’t regret being a trad wife at all. I’m a trad wife with a nursing degree- have been for 9 years now, and it’s so much better than working 14hrs 3-4x a week in the hospitals.

[@zxcccccc1]

If you have a baby at 30, you can have an adult child by 48 and create another fulfilling life for yourself. You don't have to ask your husband can you take your sick child to the doctor but you have to ask your boss.

[@octaviakf]

Most women living this type of life end up like the 2nd lady because the day the man makes the decision to up and leave you’re short short. I recommend putting some money aside for your self just in case 10 plus years from now 😳

[@miss.teetee1166]

It’s just not about having a crappy husband, it’s about life circumstances, anything can happen. There is nothing wrong with being a stay at home mom but we should always have a plan b. My dad always taught me to have a plan and to have my own money, bank account, career and car no matter if I was married or not because you never know what can happen.

[@zxcccccc1]

@miss.teetee1166 All men aren't rich and neither or all women, and how does money make up for betrayal and a broken family?

[@zxcccccc1]

@miss.teetee1166 All men aren't rich and neither or all women, and how does money make up for betrayal and a broken family?

[@a9p6m4]

I been a traditional wife for 25yrs. This is not my story and I’m 45!!! My husband knew I was not a cook before we got married. And I’m still not today. That’s not my lane we gonna order out over here. I have 3 kids and adopted 1. All are grown. This life is what you make it. And what you and your spouse agree on. These two do not speak for us all.

[@Laura_N_Nengo]

What they are saying is. When you make this decision know the full picture. It's not your story but it's hers so as for me as a 20 year old I need to both before choosing I need to know yours was perfect but fragile could easily be broken if my husband's decided to leave me orrrr he just dies.

[@fancyoo8670]

Congrats for having a good marriage.. Statistically divorce is 50 % of all marriages.. Which means meant do not end up happily married until death.. And being without money skills and career is therefore a 50/50 gamble

[@StefanTaf]

they never said everyone is sad, it just shares other side of the coin

[@gristen]

do you have a plan for when he passes away

[@Allinmyworld]

Not to mention being a trad wife can affect you later in life to because of those years you would have spent earning money towards retirement you weren't earning anything so you don't get as much in SSI, or retirement or building a career.

[@milafes4104]

Great for her that it has only been 10 years!!! I am finalizing my almost 20 year term tomorrow!!!

[@Days313]

So much depends on the marriage. Is it healthy? Are you looking out for each other?

[@vjesus4083]

My argument is this is happening to women who are working.Bad things happen to people wether trad wife or working .Nothing is easy ,we just have to choose our hard

[@gristen]

working women have the work experience and skills to get hired to decent paying jobs, trad wives do not. thats the difference

[@mrssclarkie5474]

You can do both....especially if you marry the right man. Always have a backup plan, life can throw you a curveball so suddenly

[@janicenm9147]

Im so happy because im a working mom and wife, i can pay for diner, and gifts for my husband and kids ,save money for family trips and emergency funds ❤.

[@Testtest-zw9cy]

That's insane. You cannot even pick up toothpaste? You got no money? He makes all the choices? She had a controlling and cheap husband.

[@Vic2point0]

Traditional marriages work because the emphasis is on each playing their role and taking pride in it, not on feelings. But there's nothing traditional about the wife not making some decisions on her own. As the traditional gender role of the wife is to take care of the home, she needs to have the authority to do that. So it sounds like these women were just in very controlling relationships at best, abusive relationships at worst. So both the husband and wife should be considering each other's feelings, likes, and preferences while making a purchase (groceries, furniture, etc.) Best advice is to court rather than simply date. Ask the important questions about religious and political beliefs right away, and get to know your significant other's habits and tendencies regarding this sort of thing right away before you even consider marrying them. That goes for both men and women.

[@tulsatornado1578]

Hey trad wifes who the hell in reality has the time to make homemade pbj's? My husband passed away 9 years ago byt before that I was a wife and a stay at home mom. Let me just say I had a love hate relationship with that role in my own mind. Even when I almost died from bleeding stomach ulcers I still did my best but I felt it was what I had to do. I have never wore beautiful clothes to cook or clean or tend to the kids because they get dirty easy. When I felt bad I would just fix your own dinner or go get something. Tik Tok trad wifes are bs and total lies. Being a real wife and mother at times are a thankless job. Its also harder when you are having to tend to elderly parents and sisters that need your help too. A woman in my shoes was spread really thin most of the time. I didnt even have time to myself but I wouldnt change a thing because family is what matters to me. Tell the real life of real wifes and mothers and what they deal with in a day.

[@KristineWahl-ft9qj]

There is not a single benefit of the tradwife life that requires giving up one's autonomy. You can easily raise your kids and be financially independent. All it takes is for the money earner to transfer a fair share of the money into an account in the spouse's name. The dependency bit is just to prevent the wife from leaving, it is not a step in sourdough baking.

[@chrissyt6959]

I think this "trad wife" trend is a little miscontrude. I have been a homemaker a for years and this betty crocker and donna reed thing is not realistic. Like anything....social media screws things.

[@anastasia10017]

Traditionally, trad wives had their children in their 20's and could then go to work in their 40's when the kids were in college. Be it part time work or full time job. The other thing is that trad wives sometimes used to work part time 10AM-2PM because that is when their kids were in school and the mom could make it home before her kids got out of school. It brought in some extra money but more importantly, gave the woman work experience and social interaction without sacrificing her mother's duties. A big reason to be a teacher was so that you would be on the same schedule as your kids. Home at the same time, summers off etc... Women also used to work at charity jobs - no money, but it gave them work experience to put on a resume. I knew one mom who volunteered for a big children's charity all while her kids were growing up and she was basically the CFO and the CEO of that organization. by the time her kids were in college, she had plenty of serious managerial experience to put on her resume and her experience was respected. In those days, employers understood and respected the fact that your focus was on being available to supervise and raise your kids. Now the problem is that now corporations do not allow people to work according to their needs. Now corporations want to suck 110% of your time and energy, to hell with your family obligations, and if you dont comply, you dont have a job.

[@danyalewilliams9599]

Very articulate and excellent way to explain the truth

[@raisingshilohridge]

The key, as with anything, is finding a middle ground. It's very ignorant to think that submitting and sacrificing literally everything to your husband - your hobbies, your identity, your favorite foods, your toothpaste (what??) - is the way to have a healthy marriage. Absolutely not. If you have to ask permission for everything, can't make decisions about dinner, etc without your husband that's an obvious problem! But there's certainly wisdom in stepping away from the 'girl boss' mindset that has swept the nation and has tried to emasculate men and diminish their incredibly important natural role as leaders in their families. Many, many women (yes, even above 40) do feel fulfilled by the tasks that make up life as a traditional wife & mother, and feel the freedom to fill that role especially when they've chosen the right kind of trustworthy, masculine man. To say that those women are fooling themselves or "just don't want to admit" that they've been miserable for the last 20 years lacks so much awareness of the spectrum of personalities, interests, principles and priorities that make up each person's human experience. It's actually appalling that someone her age thinks that everyone must feel the way she does deep down inside, or else they're lying. I'm sure some women are just making the best out of the life that they were handed, but how very anti-female to dismiss that as just misery or diminish any woman's experience that doesn't align with what you believe. I hope the next generation figures out how to find moderation in this area. Society needs women and men who are willing to stand in traditional roles in a healthy way.

[@mantleatrest]

It is unfortunate what the women went through. One thing I didn't hear was people call the name of Christ. Your family cannot function without Jesus Christ and that is who we honour as stay at home mums. You and your husband must be bathed in the word of God and that is a key to a blessed marriage. Being a Homemaker is no joke and it is not cushy. It is sacrifice but one that is a blessing in the long run. Are there times of pain and distress? Yes of course. However knowing that you are doing this for your children and family is worth it. Don't leave Jesus out of your marriages, don't marry unless you meet a man who is surrendered to Christ, don't become a homemaker if you are not ready to sacrifice.

[@Lurra.]

Maybe ex-narcissistic “ex-trad wife” life (not saying the ex-wives are!). I’ve followed Enitza for about two years, that woman was put through HELL by her ex (not saying the other one wasn’t, no doubt she was too). They’re both actively working through brain wash it seems. Natural human autonomy is so hard when you live with narcissists - this I know cause I’m slowly getting out of it through journaling my deep thoughts & feelings even without support😅. I truly hope they’re getting the love, support & help they need now. 💜

[@Njitagwo_Shiro]

😂😂😂 the brainwashing of narcs is horrendous

[@matildamaher111]

I work part-time and still have time to cook, clean and be there for our teenagers . I cant imagine not working for decades,

[@carolynlucca3269]

A am a real Trad Wife, not a content creating kind and I hate to burst your balloon but keeping a home up and running is very hard work.

[@TeachDrobe]

WOW SHE’S RIGHT!!!! THAT GUEST IS SPOT ON!!!!! 😢💕 I love her speaking gestures😅

[@melindakathriner4148]

A woman who is so snarky and mocks others doesn't have a lot of credibility in my opinion.

[@UnfilteredWomanhood]

Honestly, sounds like they both just married the wrong guy. However this response doesn’t seem to be the best way to go about wanting to help other women (many of whom are totally fine). Instead of being anti-traditional, maybe speak more about the red flags YOU personally ignored, in hopes to help someone else avoid marrying wrong to begin with. But to bash an entire group of women and say none of them can possibly enjoy that style of living is ludicrous and rings projection. I think I’ll make a video on this as I consider myself a traditionally-modern wife and mother and can add a more balanced perspective to the conversation.

[@Jaycarbrownie12]

Well do you know any successful Trad wives ?

[@UnfilteredWomanhood]

@@Jaycarbrownie12 I do! Quite a few actually, and I also know successful non-traditional wives as well. I don’t think the secret to marital success lies in how you choose to run your household (that’s preference), but it lies more so with whom you choose to run your household with. If you marry a jerk, you’ve married a jerk, regardless if he pays all of the bills or if you both work and split everything 50/50. So again, I believe the emphasis should be on green flags or red flags etc not bashing entire groups of people because of a bad personal experience.

[@cheryldian]

I couldn’t agree more

[@octaviakf]

It’s always going to leave a women penniless for sure cuz with no job then you have only the money he gives if he gives

[@watermelonlover745]

I feel like both sides bring up valid points. The facts are selling this lifestyle as easy is incorrect as a lot of things can go wrong.

[@tessajones9393]

It's all pretty obvious. I just don't understand how women can choose being a trad wife. If your spouse passes or divorces you, what then? It's common sense.

[@acd1168]

Well yea you can be a trad wife but have a side hustle too or get a good pre-nup. You can’t trust that your spouse will be around forever.

[@SalomonSeverin-v5i]

They are right we are not a plan. We just think we are as men. We need to stop that and we should not be controlling.

[@drNd_Esther]

What I can’t understand is how someone would just put their total trust and dependence on a fellow human for their present and future ….. geeez!!! This is sheer laziness!!! Men should not even buy this burden 😮

[@tranquility9325]

There is nothing lazy about taking care of children a husband and a house almost single handedly. You ok?

[@clglyst]

Ha! Reformed MormonCatholic here… married a total of 36yrs at the age of 55 now. Traditional SAHM only working between kids part time. Not allowed to shop on my own, buy kids clothes on my own, nothing! Left almost 12yrs ago with nothing! Hardest thing of my life. Spent the first year locked in my house unsure if every decision. Learned to trust myself again. 3 boys and 1 girl, my daughter is everything I started out to be. Strong, Intelligent, Independent and very Happy in her life. Still freaks me out as I realize the control over me that I thought was my choice. Thankfully all my kids are adults in healthy 2 partner relationships.. oh yeah, still deal with side effects of living for others, letting another think for me and loosing myself because it’s what I was supposed to do almost 12 yrs out.

[@desertw6412]

The question was asked if there was a benefit to the trad life. Yes, there are it benefits the men.

[@LA-cm9uo]

I'm getting married next year. My plan is to work in tech for 5 years before having children. By that time I will be older, more mature and have had some money/skills to decide how to go about having children. Most of us in our society work and split childcare tasks.

[@LisaLisaCJ]

To the trad wives let push aside if he leave or if he dies hopefully you have insurance or get alimony/cs. What if he becomes disabled and cannot work? How will the family survive if you as the wife have zero work history/skills?

[@Erintii]

Traditional lifestyle can be great as long as both sides love and respect each other. Sadly this is way too often not a case. Moreover, even the best husband can lose a job, get sick or die. It will be extremely hard to find a job in 30s or 40s with kids and no job experience. I think that if women wants to stay at home with kids this is great, but she should do freelancing or something to have job experience just in case. In the best case scenario money will go for a dream holidays in Maldives.

[@melindakathriner4148]

I am a Mormon and was a homemaker for 17 years before going back to working outside the home again. My husband has always been great to me and our 3 kids. I'm sorry the Mormon gal on here had an unhappy time of it, and I feel compassion for her. And I can respect her saying "put on a seatbelt" (which you should do with any big decisions). Having said THAT, I think it is totally unfair for society to lump together all Mormon marriages. Her experience does not reflect every husband and wife relationship. If one husband is a douche bag, it doesn't mean all of them are. Society needs to stop stereotyping Mormon women and putting all Mormon women under one umbrella.

[@melindakathriner4148]

To Enizia: Snarky much?

[@SBL1932]

So glad you are putting this concept our there so woman can make intelligent decision with all the information. Protect yourself and made sure you can take care of yourself if something happens.

[@miamiflorida6965]

Great interview ❤

[@tinaf600]

If these women were proverbs 31 women, then they would know that they can take care of their families and run a business. A lot of these stay-at-home wives are business owners. Some have good husbands that allow them to help them with their business. I work from home and I'm a wife and mommy. If you never read proverbs 31, please read it. She was a business owner, she had employees, she made clothes for her family, her children and her husband praised her, she had a great reputation in the community, etc. I think that's who women should try to be instead of just a stay at home moms that their whole identity is found in their kids and husband. That's why these women are lost and miserable.

[@fundamonium]

Aniza is the type of person who is unable to see a perspective other than her own.

[@anastasia10017]

if you are a trad wife, you need a man who is committed to being a trad husband.

[@rhondarichmond8620]

The woman with the dark hair is coming off as bitter. I’m an independent wife. I do make my own money. However, I do believe that there are plenty TRAD wives who have husbands that truly love them and they truly Njoy being a traditional wife.

[@tranquility9325]

She's not bitter. Chances are she was abused.

[@rhondarichmond8620]

@@tranquility9325 that is true as well.

[@EmpressEnergy-yc7jg]

Os it just me or was them trying to demonize enitza because she was passionate. And almost kind of shun her for being herself

[@_HeARTSconnection]

I can tell Enitza is a little bit traumatized by the relationship she was in. She is passionate though and it doesn't make her way of being any less valid. I hope she is working on her healing.

[@catcat9582]

If you're going to be a tradwife you can't be with a tyrant. He also has to like having a woman delegate

[@carolynlucca3269]

It is not so simple. Almost none of them are tyrants in the beginning of a marriage.

[@maninedoow5895]

Tras wife culture is very complex. My aunt is a stay home mom with a few little side jobs here and there. I don’t think it’s terrible but I do question how much women have freedom in these relationships. Relationships are a two street.

[@EH_888]

“Traditional” doesn’t mean “right”. Our society seems to conflate the two terms.

[@YOUROLDFRIEND666]

Yeah I'd love to be a trad wife with a twist i.e. having something going on myself. Switch it up and add meaning for yourself. Also getting some help/helpers at home.

[@Taylor-f5s]

I continuously get proof of why providing for or taking care being child free and u married of my own is my life goal

[@evonfritz6344]

I was a tradwife sad to say I gave him time to mess around with other women. I ended up being divorce raising our two children (grown men now) on a very small income. Only God brought us through. The struggle was real and when he left us he did not want to give me money to help us. How can you cook for your children with no food and no electricity

[@alona724]

This was deep one of the best segments

[@Anna133199]

I get women in the US wanting to be a trad wife. It seems many of you have full-time jobs with long commutes. In my country, the Netherlands, 70% of women works part-time (usually 3-4 days). This gives some more balance in life. There's even a trend of fathers having a 4 day workweek. I think young girls and boys should be encouraged to choose careers outside of the home, but also to live a balanced life. Instead of becoming a 'trad wife', maybe they can become a 'balance wife'.

[@kd568]

Some of this is a non issue/debate if you are lower income. This topic is kinda giving a little bit of “Champagne problems.”

[@helenatube]

Being financially abused to the point of homelessness and not affording groceries is not "champagne problems", did you even listen to the guests?

[@CitySlickerButtKicker]

You are so shortsighted. How is living in a car, unable to pay for milk champagne problems? Champagne problems is a sugar baby complaining about her cheating husband while she cries in her Rolls Royce!

[@katiebear609]

For people like me, I do better in traditional relationships and I do believe that it can work and a woman can be happy. But you need the gift of discernment. You get the right man who is on board and knows how to lead and is also living in reality then you have a keeper. Unfortunately there are men out there who do abuse this life style. A good man will be head of the household but they also listen to what their spouse has to say. I was married to a man who claimed traditional values. Four years after the divorce and im still in therapy. But i am now dating a wonderful man who actually knows what he is doing and knows how to lead & is based in reality. It is a very strange transition from survival mode to not having to worry about anything.

[@suddiansmith978]

I do the same sh$1 as a trad wife cook clean and work. Wtf…. But I get to make decisions. Big whup !

[@janethompson4019]

I think all girls should have training so that they are not left penniless if their husband abandons them or becomes unable to work. But the idea that housewives spend the day folding towels is just ridiculous. There is so much opportunity to serve others or develop interests from home, especially when your children are grown.

[@Taylor-f5s]

No sympathy for those women because they should have known better. They did not prepare for the worst they let people diminish their ability to a servant

[@allaboutthatwifeandmomlife]

It definitely only works if you have a trusting, supportive husband emotionally and financially. I’m 45 and doing this for 23 years and love it. Every one’s life experience is different and everyone should do what makes them happy ❤

[@tranquility9325]

I hope you have a backup plan financially in case he dies or leaves you.

[@suzanneclaiborne3265]

Did he have a pre nup - it’s not 50/50 when you get divorced?

[@shortmashins4031]

Shit I work outside home and work at home as a working trad wife 😊