Execution of Thomas Seymour (Becoming Elizabeth)

On 20 March 1549, Thomas Seymour is executed for treason.
Becoming Elizabeth episode 6

[@prun8893]

That kid putting his hand within range of the axe......totally against OSHA regs.

[@WhiteyTheWhiteGuyShow]

Lol😅

[@vindolanda6974]

I would not put my hand anywhere near the head of someone about to be decapitated. The executioner may not have a 100% accuracy record.

[@mcaddicts]

Yeah especially Jack Ketch

[@efrainchavez1374]

Yup especially that character

[@alwaysrecycles365]

Some show has a scene where a viking with long hair is about to be beheaded. He asks to have his long braided hair held so it wouldn't be cut, a guy holds the hair and viking flung himself back at the exact moment the axe fell, thus cutting the hands of the dude holding his hair. Donno where I saw it but it demonstrates why u don't wanna have ur hands there

[@sbrg2240]

​@@alwaysrecycles365 I think that was vikings.

[@davehoward22]

Few fingers in the bucket

[@laurenlanterns4376]

“Yes very sad. Anyway.” -Loki

[@AishaVonFossen]

🤣😂🤣😂

[@becauseyesandisaidso3474]

OML 😭😭😭😭

[@lauracrimson]

and there we have a new winner of the internet. Congratulations madam!

[@Elizabeth_the_first_69]

THATS CRAZY

[@MichSherl]

Very strong scene, so telling how the young man looks so scared and decides to spill some beans there. Thanks for posting Lili!

[@clairefordzetterstrom9973]

True!

[@Circa1628]

Is he the same young man during that scene where Thomas was acting crazy with a bow and arrow target practicing?

[@calliefinck6275]

He’s still trying to control her even in death

[@themermaidstale5008]

I’d like to recommend the Hangman’s Daughter series by Oliver Potsch. There are several books in the series. The author is German and is a descendant of the German hangman that he writes his novels about. You really get a feel for what life was like for commoners at that time. The time period is much earlier than this show. The first book deals with the local wise woman/midwife being accused of being a witch. The local officials are scared that a rash of witch burnings, which had happened about 25 years before, might happen again. His daughter features prominently in all the books as well as the hangman’s past as a child and as a swordsman in the war.

[@clairefordzetterstrom9973]

Thank you!

[@themoores9817]

That sounds interesting. I love a good book, so may have a look out for that . Thanks 🙂

[@brynnesantos9817]

Still working on the first book. One of many that I hope to see made into a TV series/movie.

[@irawilliams343]

The most satisfying scene in the whole series after everything he did to Elizabeth and Robert

[@gennaronarducci1333]

What he did to elizabeth in real life?

[@irawilliams343]

@@gennaronarducci1333 he sexually abused her

[@tomurg]

@@gennaronarducci1333 pretty much the same as in the series. That childmolester got what he deserved

[@perisword7918]

Groomed and molested her.

[@gennaronarducci1333]

@@perisword7918 at what age?

[@AishaVonFossen]

Whoa...not gonna lie, I was not expecting the gore. Caught me off guard a little bit. 😂🤣

[@novakingood3788]

Lot of references to executioners being drunk. Everyone was fairly tiddly in those days as beer was much safer to drink than water.

[@Belinda8881]

Gruesome really , but probably historically accurate.

[@calliefinck6275]

I really hope he suffered

[@isabelbeckerman9226]

The most horrific beheading I remember watching in 2005 was the execution of Queen Mary of Scots in the HBO miniseries Elizabeth 1. I commend the film's special effects creators, who performed diligently in creating the authentic scene of the doomed Catholic Queen facing the block to meet her end. After the executor applied the first two wacks using an ax, it was shockingly real to hear her screech helplessly and her head falling off her body after the second. The clip was uploaded a few years ago on KZbin, but currently, it's unavailable for an unknown reason. Maybe it's the wisest choice to have it removed for sensitivity purposes.

[@FlyGuy2000]

@@isabelbeckerman9226 It is never a good idea to censor historical truths. Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

[@sandraselley193]

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[@zippymufo9765]

​@@FlyGuy2000It doesn't matter wether they forget it or remember it. The past is repeated regardless.

[@WWIzd]

I’m glad he didn’t. Thomas doesn’t get to groom or manipulate Elizabeth anymore.

[@moniquelucas5862]

He doesnt get to groom or manipulate her, for sure. But he would always haunt her. In the sense that her fear of men and marriadge stemmed directly from him.

[@KL-ki8db]

@@moniquelucas5862 And from her own father.

[@exex9378]

This is what happens when you don’t pay your executioner 💰

[@cindydott452]

For a second I thought the guy that held his head down lost some fingers!

[@uglyhandle]

he didn’t even care that he was about to die

[@CordsZ]

Damn, Richard. That was cold.

[@jamesalexander5623]

Note to self : Request Anne Boleyn's Swordsman!

[@charliewatts6895]

Faired much better than Elizabeth's step sister Mary. Her executioner was drunk and inexperienced. The first blow didn't even hit her neck but her shoulder. It tooks several blows to get the head off. She suffered immensely. Anne Boylean had a good executioner, brought in from France. He used a sword, distracted her (look over there), and took her head off with one blow. As the annointed Queen, anything less than that would not have been acceptable.

[@AnnaBellaChannel]

Anne Boyleyn was a crowned Queen of England and thus as a Royal. She had a Royal Excution which is to be beheaded by the sword which is quicker than the axe. Commons get hung by the rope, nobles get executed by the axe as it is consider more dignified but ONLY Royalty gets beheaded by the sword.

[@lepakshijaideep489]

Margaret pole deserved Anne's swordsman, if anyone did. She was way more worthy and royal than crusty Henry

[@josephclark7814]

For those times, the reckless weirdo creeper got what he deserved. If accurate, Elizabeth was lucky to not be brought down by him.

[@jameslynch7826]

He was a very in demand man as far as marriage goes due to his bloodline and position in the Court. Elizabeth probably considered a marriage given the fact she was unlikely to be Queen and more likely married off overseas.

[@borleyboo5613]

“Today there died a man of much wit but little judgment”. Elizabeth, on hearing of Thomas Seymours execution.

[@Sorrow_Silence-pn2mu]

He should’ve kept his mouth shut if something was supposed to be a secret

[@nobunaga240]

Disregarding the silliness of somebody leaping up and grabbing yer man’s head, the executioner taking a couple of blows to sever the head was quite common. Often the executioner made a complete mess of it, chopping into the body or half-missing, hence the custom of the victim paying the man to do a clean job

[@philipholmes5884]

The ones being executed would pay the executioner to do a "clean job" ? Sounds messed up...but I believe it ! 😐

[@rickheady2298]

Yeah, but who the hell did that servant boy think he grabbed his head and hold down like that. He’s just a damn servant. That’s the lord admiral there, where are the servants gonna start getting through their heads they’re nobodies.

[@babsgrayson8432]

That groomsman deserves the best

[@vit968]

That guy just wants to collect his paycheck and go home and wants none of the office politics especially from a guy who's about to be fired from life.

[@novakingood3788]

Executing him for 33 acts of treason seems a bit excessive, but makes total sense if you shoot a spaniel! 🐶

[@lepakshijaideep489]

Exactly, he deserved it just for what he did to the dog. And also for using Edward for his own gain, isolating him from Mary, who he loved more than anyone, and for abusing Elizabeth

[@Edward4Plantagenet]

Countess of Salisbury Margrete pole's execution was most grusome. It took 10-11 strikes to kiII her because executioner was drunk and she ran after initial strike on back.

[@Crusty_Camper]

And that's how the toast rack was invented.

[@lepakshijaideep489]

Margaret didn't actually run away in real life. Her execution was terribly gruesome and it's true that it took around 11 strikes but she handled it with such grace and stood her ground. She was such a wonderful person, one of my favorite tudor/Plantagenet figures

[@jacqueline8559]

​@@lepakshijaideep489 Who really knows? I've read ,in 3 accounts, that she tried to run away in panic. Can't say I blame her. Who knows whether 'fight or flight' or just frozen terror, would affect us in those horrendous situations

[@stevehalverson790]

Checkout the scene from the show Viking we’re a Viking about to be beheaded asks a guard to hold his long hair out of the way of the axe. It’s classic.

[@josephbateman7742]

Meanwhile the white tower is in the background thinking, "man, screw these Tudors! This keeps up, theyre gonna give me a bad name!"

[@johnboughton7451]

Half the time the executioners were drunk & it may have taken several swings to get the job done they certainly were gruesome times

[@paloma4444]

what an idiotic comment

[@eriksturdevant8589]

The executioner had one job and one job only...honestly.

[@FlyGuy2000]

Well the guy was killed, so there's that.

[@eriksturdevant8589]

​@@FlyGuy2000 That's fair, lol. "Good enough for government work" I guess.

[@delboy-su3wf]

I always thought if your gonna die fight back untill the end

[@anneb4160]

Horrible but also a kind of fascinating. Even though Thomas Seymour was not innocent at all, I feel sorry that he had to die in such a horrific and painful way.

[@1978rharris]

If it makes you feel any better, all the nerves carrying the pain sensation to the brain were severed in the first blow. Chances are he’d have just been a bit confused for about 7 seconds in that state, had the headsman not finished him off.

[@cindydott452]

Not very painful at all. The first strike severed the spine instantly.

[@clairefordzetterstrom9973]

Same!

[@gshoots4357]

wtf? there would of been no pain whatsoever

[@emzkoe3904]

He was brave as fuck about it though. Stone faced/dry eyed strode right up there. Guards usually have to force crying people to make their way up there.

[@user-zv6ly7fu3w]

Gruesome....but the use of a probably not so sharp axe is obviously not the best way to lose your head ....but what is.

[@Casca-su3ty]

So did he deliver the letter

[@FraBra88]

Why did the boy hate him so much? Sure he was arrogant but he never treated servents badly in this show.

[@Lily1127channel]

Oh he did. He treated this servant boy worse than an animal in the show

[@BcyesandIsaidso]

He : Raped/groomed/SA'd Elizabeth Was a genuine bitch (Attempted) to kidnap Edward (VI) Killed Edward's doggo +Many more things....

[@changaming1275]

i feel no remorse for a man who tried to kidnap a YOUNG BOY. What the hell was he thinking?! what was he going to DO to Edward?? kill him? rpe him? Who knows, but thankfully the man never got to do anything horrible to the small king. honestly monsters existed then too, wouldn't be surprised if he FANCIED the boy. eugh...

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

He made his bad choices/sins and he paid the price for them, justly. He has no one to blame but himself. However, the young man gloating over Thomas was wrong too... yet that is just a fiction. IF it did happen in real life, and they didn't repent, God will be displeased at those who gloat too.

[@Lily1127channel]

That's his servant who he has been belittling and mistreating for a long time (in the series). So the boy was becoming more and more frustrated, but he had to keep it under the surface as long as he was his master. But here at his death, all the kept back frustration just erupted from him.

[@oakpope]

"he paid the price for them, justly" death penalty is an abomination that is not just.

[@glennhubbard5008]

​@@oakpopeI agree. The defendants at Nuremberg did not deserve the death penalty. Thank you for your support of Greater Deutschland.

[@oakpope]

@@glennhubbard5008 If you proceed like those nazi barbarians, what moral ground have you ?

[@N.A.S101]

The day has finally come. His sins will be payed for. Its time for God to commend his soul.

[@eugeniagomezguerra1802]

Gosh, How much i disliked him

[@cindydott452]

Too bad that the magical sky daddy is a complete fiction.

[@jamesalexander5623]

@@cindydott452 Yes! But they believed in it more or less so it has to figure into the story.

[@alangilbert6064]

@@cindydott452 That's just your view. You're perfectly entitled to it but an opinion is not fact.

[@cindydott452]

@@alangilbert6064 Exactly. Your opinion on the magical sky daddy isn't fact either.

[@SYLVESTRIVS]

Bela cena, as pessoas não entendem que nem sempre se cortava a cabeça de primeira...

[@Belinda8881]

Nunca gostei de ver as cenas de execuções nas séries históricas. Nunca entendi o fascínio de muitos espectadores por esse tipo de espetáculo quase sempre macabro.

[@SYLVESTRIVS]

@@Belinda8881 eu gosto. Mesmo pq era assim e isso faz parte da história. E vc e eu seriamos plebeus fudidos que acabariamos vendo esse tipo de cena ao passarmos nas ruas. Todas as capitais tinham em seus muros ou bairros mais pobres alguem enforcado apodrecendo (imagina o cheiro) ou pedaços de braços e pernas ou mesmo cabeças em estacas também apodrecendo. Era algo comum dependendo de onde passássemos. Em Londres piratas até 1800 e pouco eram deixamos no gibbet, naquela jaula, pendurados por todo o rio Tâmisa e nos portos até morrerem de fome e frio, e os corpos apodrecendo. Enfim, terrível mas era fato e até hj em londres eles fizeram marcos para lembrar esses locais

[@themermaidstale5008]

@@Belinda8881 Poor people possibly viewed it as entertainment or a special event out of their every day lives. It would give them something to talk about with their companions, until the next big event occurred. Witnessing these things was better than hearing about them secondhand. Their lives were very circumscribed; many never ventured out of the neighborhood they were born in. Rural peasants were tied to the land and rarely left the estate they served. Market day, traveling acting troupes or peddler’s were important in their lives, as was church on Sunday.

[@Yasin_2312]

@@Belinda8881 well in those days, executions were really common and so people were unsensitised to gore and blood. So yeah, it was mainly used as entertainment for the commoners

[@silviacorrea7644]

@@SYLVESTRIVS Isso é verdade, mas discordo que provavelmente nos tempos atuais ainda nos reuníssemos em massa para assistir a esses "espetáculos". À medida em que vamos nos refinando humanamente, isso vai ficando mais difícil de tolerar e, apesar de ainda termos tanto o que caminhar, é inegável que evoluímos na caminhada ética e cívica ao longo do tempo. Quiçá prova disto seja o fato de que tanto condenações que preveem penas de morte brutais (e costumeiramente sob os olhares de curiosos) sejam quase que integralmente reservadas àqueles locais cujos sistemas de governo são anti-democráticos e governados por religiosos. Como exemplo, o caso do adolescente que foi decapitado há poucos anos em um país do mundo árabe por ter sido visto no comércio dos pais ouvindo Beyonce.

[@grzegorz8966]

Z jakiego to jest filmu?

[@giuliafocsa]

Becoming Elizabeth

[@PapaPalpatine666]

Richard just ruined the best part the audience should demand a refund.

[@jcline147]

Dang… they just beheaded everyone…yikes!

[@wariyakukongviriyapan5819]

Why there is no cc eng

[@Lily1127channel]

I enabled it now! Sorry for the delay

[@chlorophyll6154]

Cancel culture back then is lit

[@nataliasalanitri1279]

It is very painful to see.

[@calliefinck6275]

Finally!

[@moniquelucas5862]

Its about damn time 😑😑

[@gingerdude7040]

I would have spared him because he was hot. Well, at least the actor was.

[@CookingWithCaiah]

They actually showed the blood of him? Thats my only and final question

[@allanfifield8256]

That has always looked like a really poor design for a beheading ax to me. It should be a little heavier rather than a little lighter.

[@michaelwhite5834]

They were pretty heavy, actually. You can see a bunch of them in the Tower of England

[@allanfifield8256]

@@michaelwhite5834 Thanks

[@susanvirginia6037]

What did he say on the scaffold please?

[@americanfairy]

It sounds like, "He didn't even come to watch."

[@Lily1127channel]

Yes, that's what he said. I enabled the English subtitles now.

[@themermaidstale5008]

@@americanfairy Was he talking about the king or his brother, Edward?

[@WindLake]

@@themermaidstale5008 His brother. Kings didn't attend that sort of thing (from my understanding).

[@valigogu4157]

They presented Thomas Seymour in this film like a very likeable guy.

[@Lily1127channel]

Likeable? I think he was detestable in every second. The videos with scenes if Thomas are also full of comments about how they hate this guy.

[@lolah3838]

Charming, good looking & manipulative. The problem with the series is that Elizabeth was the least interesting character.

[@broken_wrists-qv9ld]

Damn 😶

[@ItsYour_FavGirl123]

Why did he get executed?!

[@SamaraDarkness]

For trying to kidnap or kill the king Edward

[@KrookedKlown-kl5tk]

Yeah.. some executions took one or two blows to really get the head off. It's said Katheryn Howards and Thomas Cromwells were like that.

[@amatulfulani6390]

Katherine Howard was killed in one blow. Not more than one.

[@RoscoPColtrane17]

They let them dress up in black face back then?

[@Jack.me.]

HE WAS STILL ALIVE AFTER TWO HITS

[@evangiles4403]

Actually no once the spinal cord all you have is motor nerve reaction as the nerves die

[@diversion8654]

Nose pero siento que lo tenia merecido Eso no muestra que Eduardo vi no era sumiso y inocente como tudor y rey nunca le temblo la mano en cavar con quien lo desafiava

[@stevenandrewkings-gv5zx]

mando a ejecutar a sus dos tíos , lol.

[@Katt.4]

What did he do

[@corruptmother6361]

He tried to kidnap or kill king edward

[@corruptmother6361]

He tried to kidnap or killed king edward

[@v123f]

Woah ❤️😭🙏

[@1aikane]

Savagery

[@Persei1]

He deserved it. Just think back on his treatment of Maggie Pole.

[@user-ht7xu1ev3f]

Deserved 😊

[@benabner6257]

Oops

[@AI-hx3fx]

The actor looks almost like my ex, so this is remotely satisfying.

[@choi8716]

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[@janusstark4259]

Macron

[@efrainchavez1374]

This execution was botched and horrified to anyone watch this video. Thomas Seymour a man who was being found guilty of treason but eventually he was being sentenced to death via by beheading during the March 20th, 1545 but it was being set up by people tell him out to sit down so he can get his head cut out of his body, but he say to someone keep the promise but that person forced to keep the promise then the 2-3 guards tried ro put his body down but the person had to put his head down also in order the executioner can cut down the head after he did it then it was horrible and botched cuz the head was moving and the axe went down like 3-5 times after that period of time, Thomas Seymour died but his body had to be taken to the cementery (This movie was boring so i decided to sleep during the movie due to being horrified at the final part)

[@Ronkyort0dox]

The made him sexy in this

[@jamesalexander5623]

I guess he thought he was?

[@ADRIANAROOX]

poor thomas seymour

[@trouserbottomdog6120]

Watched this series and it is complete rubbish. I can understand why a second season was not committed to. It is very loosely based on the facts and embellished hugely. FFS leave the English Royal families to the BBC