Exile of the Others

It's happening! Thrice-delayed, this stream is gonna be a humdinger! Continuing from our examination of Craster's Keep from "Creation of the Others," we'll be visiting many places that provide clues about the exile of the Others: the Nightfort, the Eyrie, the Tower of Joy, and many more.
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[@joemckeown4612]

Dude, no one else in this KZbin space is bringing what you do. You deserve to have 300k+ subscribers, this algorithm needs to start pushing you out there harder. Haven’t sent a PayPal in awhile my dude as moneys a little tight right now will do so again when the coffers fill up. Keep doing what you do, greatly appreciated!

[@DavidLightbringer]

Aww thanks and yeah I agree what’s up KZbin

[@andrew-hf9fl]

I think really it's just because this is the most advanced theory (by a lot) in the asoif scene. People prolly gotta work their way alllll the way up before they'll vibe with the symbolism.

[@mehoimenoy]

I know this is an older video so I don't know if you will see this, but if lyanna's crown is representative of the moon, would that make her fit the story of the moon breaking from the suns heat and giving birth to thousands of dragons via John and his progeny?

[@ThommyofThenn]

i have to add that Exodus is actually about gaining freedom from an oppressor more than being cast out from a place you want to stay

[@saviourly3186]

there is a weirwood symbol at the sept of baelor. Arya! When Ned is executed: she had lost a fingernail and started smearing blood on the statue of Baelor; When Yoren is cutting her hair he pulls so hard she bleeds from her scalp; She also bites her tongue or her lip ( i cant remember) when he is cutting her hair; she is also crying. I think this is pretty clear weirwood stigmata.

[@DavidLightbringer]

For sure. Arya is a great “NN as cotf” figure, as Arya is both a child and a person who is called a variety of squirrel nicknames.

[@thelateescapist8266]

"I'm not planning on doing a 3 hour stream" he said before streaming for 2hrs 50min. 😅 Thanks LML!

[@justmhr7598]

No one has that kind of endurance ; Robert Baratheon : “ Hold my Beer 🍺. “

[@chyawanprash]

Hold my beer and give me wine.

[@justmhr7598]

45min in , hearing Howland Reeds name makes me excited for the reappearance of Robb’s ragtag Will’s team in search for the Crannogmen

[@pinkbunny6272]

You're my chosen geecky uncle, into weird stuff and creative. I love your videos so much!

[@WithinCellsInterlinkd]

So he's back, and from the look of that shirt - From outer space!

[@andrewbahlman7768]

Hot damn man some of the most astounding realizations I’ve heard, and all in one hell of a livestream. Firing on all cylinders LML and gettin better every video!!

[@casey9439]

milk white marble veined with blue hints at copper bearing ores in the vale. makes sense with all the bronze,

[@DavidLightbringer]

oh cool! Yeah those Royces, eh

[@lewiswarburton1224]

Love your stuff Mr. Lightbringer! You work so hard, and you're constantly putting out great content. It's greatly appreciated. Stay healthy though, that's more important!

[@llJeshooinessll]

Ikr i always admire the quality content he busts out

[@emilybarclay8831]

The word Deuteronomy comes from the greek Deuteronómion literally meaning “a copy or repetition of the law” (deutoros meaning second or repeat and nomos meaning law) Given how GRRM loves repeating motifs and magical pacts or ‘laws’ that come back around, such as TPTWP, there’s connection there

[@cloverazar5315]

So what you’re saying is Leviticus is “here’s the rules”, and Deuteronomy is “bitch what did I JUST say??!”

[@PatrickLongblkwhtrbbt]

I'm honestly surprised the original Moon Door was vertical. A Moon Pool is basically a hole in the bottom of a boat, wherein air pressure from within the boat keeps the water from flooding the boat. Moon pools are used by divers to exit large ships and submarines

[@DavidLightbringer]

Oh that’s cool I never knew that... A Moon Shaped Pool is a great Radiohead album

[@amandaofhouserobinson6707]

So glad your back. Great stream! Thankyou!!

[@pankratos5017]

Could it be that the Shade of the Evening Trees are a 1st generation Weirwood Tree that has been invaded, corrupted, and burned out during the Empire of the Dawn, and are now remnants of that bygone era? They seem to be more prevalent in the East. The white Weirwood Trees, mostly in the West, haven't been exposed to the same level of corruption yet, but are heading in the same direction.

[@celly8713]

Worked all day today but glad to see you back and well, looking forward to this one 💙

[@laicarkaninmiliel7777]

Good to see you back 😊 I'm glad you got some rest, it's important to take care of oneself! ✨ ⭐

[@Skooby59]

Thank you for all this my dude

[@nadiasouthiere7908]

Thank You LML for that Magnificent Stream!🙏🏻🙋🏼‍♀️🇨🇦💘

[@dustinhaas8538]

Seeing through Petersons intelligence to his grift...chefs kiss lml, I love you

[@nagamata]

I really like the idea of the others being shadow babies (like melisandre’s) made corporeal with ice. Fire and smoke are fleeting things that require fuel (or, say, a body) to remain present, and will otherwise dissipate into thin air. Ice is similar, but is a much better medium to hold and preserve, as ice is inherently solid and corporeal, much better suited to remain fastened to the earth, literally and metaphorically.

[@zacrusk5274]

Looking good, sounding better!!! Glad your feeling well buddy!

[@LeonM4c]

Missed this while working, glad you're throat is feeling better!

[@TheInsatiableDrBoom]

Glad your feeling better and took time time for yourself.

[@jonhauge-evaldsson783]

Thank you! Very good, as always!

[@richardwithanarr]

Just gonna plug my personal tinfoil that is far from complete or ready for any real publishing, but it's way relevant to the White Sword Tower: THE RED KEEP IS A WEIRWOOD. •Let's start with the most relevant: the round, whitewashed tower that - in this video already - is described as symbolizing Yggdrasil. White tree trunk here, and we know from Shamanic Thunder Horse and other LmL works that Yggdrasil inspired weirwood. •A lot of the important dreams that happen in the story happen at the Red Keep, including Ned's Tower of Joy. •Weirwood leaves are shaped like hands. Tower of The Hand, Lord Pufferfish's commissioned Hand throne. If the King takes the shit then the Hand wipes, and there's no toilet paper, so they're probably using leaves. (okay, that one's a stretch, I admit. Allow me my clowning.) •How about that throne? An absolute tangle of swords, still sharp and dangerous, consuming those who sit on it (compare to Bloodraven, who has been so consumed by his marriage with the tree that he has roots coming out of his eye socket, and his wounds no longer bleed) •Has a vast system of hidden tunnels, is largely underground, and the people who built it had their necks cut so thoroughly that their heads separated from their bodies (see also: the talking severed heads legend at The Whispers) •The first time a pov character (Catelyn) sees it: //And above it all, frowning down from Aegon’s high hill, was the Red Keep; seven huge drum-towers crowned with iron ramparts, an immense grim barbican, vaulted halls and covered bridges, barracks and dungeons and granaries, massive curtain walls studded with archers’ nests, all fashioned of pale red stone. Aegon the Conqueror had commanded it built. His son Maegor the Cruel had seen it completed. Afterward he had taken the heads of every stonemason, woodworker, and builder who had labored on it. Only the blood of the dragon would ever know the secrets of the fortress the Dragonlords had built, he vowed.// It is frowning, which implies a face, and it has "nests" for the archers, implying birds (which is before we get to Varys's Little Birds, Sansa being called a bird, or Margaery's "hens.") That last bit about only the Blood of the Dragon would know its secrets - especially with the Targaryen 3 headed dragon acting as a symbolic Cerberus guarding the gateway - to the underworld. •After Eddard calls for the death of Gregor Clegane (via beheading, of course) Sansa and Jeyne ask Septa Mordane at breakfast if Lord Beric will keep the head, or if it will be returned to the Red Keep, which horrified the Septa, as this is not a conversation to be had over porridge. You know, porridge. That meal that is a paste-like substance. •The room with the dragon skulls reminds me of the animal skeletons that Bran sees. •When Bran enters the cave, the world becomes monochrome. //Now the stone was covered with hunting tapestries, vivid with greens and browns and blues, and yet still it seemed to Ned Stark that the only color in the hall was the red of blood.// •The Great Council room has tons of carved animals, hunting scenes, and a sphinx statue. The sphinx ought to speak for itself, man/multi-animal hybrid. Hunters would be the ones who take animal skins/furs. Look, I don't have all this stuff - especially symbolism or myths - worked out like David here does, but I do recognize that there's gotta be significance with these things. --- These are examples purely off the top of my head without diving into all of my notes so far. I'm trying to reread the main 5 books and collect all the evidence that I can for this, and everyone here knows what a monumental task that is, while also still enjoying them and appreciating them more thoroughly with the enlightenment I get from this channel. If anyone wants to build on this, you're more than welcome to. If someone else writes their own mega theory about it first, I'd love to read it! No salt, only love.

[@mistermaestersirthomas9164]

Carved out Petrified tree or just a metaphor?

[@richardwithanarr]

@@mistermaestersirthomas9164 Weirwood trees aren't like other trees. They don't rot, they only turn to stone. They apparently don't have seeds. There's stronger association with blood sacrifice to them than other trees. We don't know their life processes or how they grow. I don't think blood would come out if you cut the pale red stone that makes up the red keep, but it could be literal. Probably just symbolic.

[@mistermaestersirthomas9164]

yeah, I just wasn’t sure what you were saying with “The red keep is Weirwood”. I could see a case for either, agreed, without question, to the metaphor; not leaning toward the carved out part but don’t outright think it’s wrong. Well spotted!

[@jessp8238]

This is a great theory! I definitely believe that all 3 hills in King’s Landing are like “ god mounds”. All the major Westerosi rivers converge into the Gods Eye, and form the Blackwater Rush which probably flows directly under the capitol city.

[@seanjohnson7145]

Content is amazing thank you !!!

[@aaronmumford9750]

LML; Im not intending to streem for 3 hours LML; *Streems for 2h50m* Awesome man! 👍

[@martinkrog5943]

I never noticed the three hills of King's landing- wonder if that's a reference to the hills in Rome Copied from google: The original city of Romulus was built upon Palatine Hill (Latin: Mons Palatinus). The other hills are the Capitoline, Quirinal, Viminal, Esquiline, Caelian, and Aventine (known respectively in Latin as the Mons Capitolinus, Mons Quirinalis, Mons Viminalis, Mons Esquilinus, Mons Caelius, and Mons Aventinus) I think(not sure at all) it for most of the classical period was just the 3 first hills Just thinking out loud :) Thanks for great content as always 🤘

[@definitejux1265]

Algorithm blessing. Thanks for these fun videos!

[@SaltyMinorcan]

Love your videos. 💖

[@tool9386]

I don't understand how you can point out all this symbolism stacking on top of each other, and there are still haters watching your stream saying there is no symbolism to support what you're saying. Do they think GRRM accidentally put all this stuff in his story? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@autje1970]

GRRM watching David's streams going, "Wait, wut? I did that?" :D

[@DavidLightbringer]

I think there was a tiny bit of a misunderstanding about the comment I was reading, they were more talking about trying to parse out what actually happened at the tower of joy as opposed to the symbolism

[@xSilverFernx]

I wonder if the battle between “the sword of the morning” and the smiling knight was also a retelling of how the Last Hero was able to obtain Dawn. Listening to the story, I was shocked that he would gamble his house’s ancestral sword. Then I realized why (I think) GRRM presented this scene: I wonder if Arthur is the only Dayne who has ever gambled his sword assuming he would kill his opponent. And what would happen if the smiling knight could NOT be killed.

[@DavidLightbringer]

yes, Dayne is the NK and the Smiling Knight, a crescent moon person, is the last hero. his sword breaks and is notched a dozen time, all LH math stuff. Good observation, maybe NK lost a duel and that's why GRRM has the Others duel waymar

[@THEMightyMonarch316]

Awesome stream as always DL ! commenting on the way out..could Jaime be a reverse night king story (like he's falling out of love with the ice queen aka cersei ?)

[@DavidLightbringer]

Hmm, I’ll have to think about that. It might be AA trying to escape the wwnet after being trapped.

[@THEMightyMonarch316]

@@DavidLightbringer oho yes that as well, the Lannisters do indeed weave wicked nets that could end up ensnaring them. Thanks for the your response and intriguing theories. I like the idea of Jaime escaping his sisters/families cold hearted ways and become more of a fire/justice symbol

[@made-line7627]

@@THEMightyMonarch316 I love this

[@THEMightyMonarch316]

@@made-line7627 Thank you, I really like the idea that Jaime might be a subversion of GRRM known symbology and tropes to keep us on our toes

[@samuelschlesinger4102]

Ah, trying to escape the family tree.

[@hinakhodiyara7883]

Thank you David.

[@preludetak]

This was soo interesting ♡

[@FieryReborn]

Enjoyed it

[@autje1970]

Pushing the algorithm out the Moon Door.

[@SmileHeartXD]

So high quality :D

[@arcadechimera]

Your shirt is fly, my friend. Wear this more! I love finding all the videos I missed, and somehow I missed this. Found your old essays from Reddit a few years ago, and have been following your KZbin for some time. I originally found you after listening to Not A Cast for 4 months. I got hooked on your vast knowledge of old myths and legends, and how to use symbolism to extrapolate information from George's literature. I wish I could more frequently contribute monetarily to the content creators like you. My friends think I have a problem because they use KZbin for meme stuff and music, and I just listen to LML 8 hours a day :') Thank you for your contributions to literary analysis and understanding ASOIAF.

[@DavidLightbringer]

aww right on Zack thats so encouraging to hear. Thanks for saying so! And yah this stream was a throwback to the old-style deep symbolic podcast analysis wasn't it

[@christyncain9087]

Just going to rewatch everything while I pack my house to move while I wait for Sundays lives. 😂

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

Very good👍🔥🔥🔥

[@justmhr7598]

Oh i loved the reading of the white book of the kingsguard ☺️ mines all highlighted.

[@michaeltavizon8333]

Still on that rewatch binge 🎉🎉🎉

[@elketerbentzadik]

"Room is round...Tower is round...Why don't they call it Roundtine?"

[@michael198427]

The depth of info in your videos and tolkien unchained 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@DavidLightbringer]

What’s funny is that the Silmarillion was the first fantasy book I ever read. I must have been like 9 or something.

[@michael198427]

@@DavidLightbringer dude😳😳😳👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾wow

[@michael198427]

@@DavidLightbringer my bad his channel is tolkien untangled

[@MasterDuelMax]

Hell Yeah!

[@wstreyer]

The concept of the Last Hero and his companions being created simultaneously with the Others has a nice parallel to the fractured comet theory. One part was destroyed or consumed in the ancient past while the other/Others have returned together in the present time of the story.

[@TheAfikoman]

2:13:13 Now I'm going to use "Last Hero's Dozen" instead of Baker's Dozen 😂

[@catherinehalverson1436]

Glad to see you feeling better! I’m not excited about House of the Dragon- just going to wait for the ASOIAF books to be finished.

[@fuzi5303]

how do you feel about this now

[@ThommyofThenn]

​@@fuzi5303I was gonna say, i bet they changed their tune partway through the pilot episode!

[@user-ll2de1cp2n]

I love how you always circle back your thoughts to add evidence. Hearing you repeat the blue roses/moon maiden symbolism between the Eyrie and the Tower of Joy and Crastor’s Keep definitely backs your theories 😎

[@DavidLightbringer]

yeah I mean you know best case scenario I'm just uncovering a sort of cohesive system of symbolic motifs that the author put in there, so it's not surprising it's consistent. It's definitely powerful to compare so many similar scenes at one time like this, you can really see the big picture

[@DjDiamstatOfficial]

Could the Blood and pain from childbirth itself of the children sacrificed to the others be part of the blood magic?

[@DavidLightbringer]

Perhaps... I think everything that goes into making a child makes it the most valuable sacrifice probably

[@merrittboydston7569]

Respect the smoking glasses game. Also, mad respect to repping the quality product that is Shure

[@Norgothic]

Best content from the best dude

[@HahaDamn]

Exile, what if the Others are like the undead ghosts in Lotr, only the true king that wields the sword can command them

[@karentargaryen7959]

Great stream and only half way through. But I had a light bulb go off and had to put it down before it went away. You were reading the Bran dream about him falling or flying, and the comment about the "other" dreamers being impaled on ice spikes. The visual I got was a transformation of the men falling and becoming others, since I believe others are sometimes referred to as ice spears/spikes. Their mortal bodies are dead and littered about the floor and now transformed into others (ice spikes).

[@DavidLightbringer]

I can't recall where they are described as spears - I think you are thinking of "sword-slim," which is a description of one Other

[@karentargaryen7959]

@@DavidLightbringer thanks!

[@TertiusOculusOris]

Bro... When I first started watching your vids (shout out to Quinn's Ideas - that's how I found you), honestly, I couldn't absorb it all, process it, make sense of it all.. Just seemed kind of crazy. But I love the I've and Fire, kept watching, and thus, kept learning. You have said many times, how Song of Ice and Fire, GRRM, has sent you on your journey of knowledge, of mythology and symbolism study. Shit clicked with your vids. The masterpiece and genius and hard work that Martin puts into this series.. I'm 100% with you in sending good vibes. I hope he can finish his vision, bit even if we don't get it all, he has given us so much. Kind of starting a ramble here.. lol. But anyway.. Love you bro, toke one for me and others, keep up the good work. Stay positive and optimistic. And also, hope your own book is going well. Looking forward to supporting that and all that. Excellent content. Well anyways, thanks for all your work and insight.

[@TertiusOculusOris]

On mobile and for some dumbass reason I can't edit. So yeah.. The stupid sentences were not on purpose but the gist is there at least.

[@TertiusOculusOris]

Tl;Dr Appreciate ya

[@DavidLightbringer]

Thanks Bob it really means a lot, appreciate you taking the time to say so. And I get it, it’s a lot at first depending on where you come in. I’m just trying to unravel Martin’s tapestry and it’s obviously quite the masterwork

[@twisted-badger]

Glad your back on form. Wish I saw the deleted version... 'Alright keep your secrets' 🤫

[@DavidLightbringer]

Yeah my honey monologue was pretty good huh!

[@BrimstoneVomit]

I'm really glad that you opened up early by describing "blood magic" as the basis of all magic in ASOIAF. Seems like it's not an independent magic, so much as a universal fuel for the various magic systems. I guess the only differences are what are the mana costs and how is it paid? Like with Melisandre's shadowbinding baby - instead of bleeding something, her spell simply ate the little embryo inside her and took its place as the baby.

[@DavidLightbringer]

Yeah that’s how I think about it, exactly. Blood is essentially the most powerful of elements

[@BrimstoneVomit]

@@DavidLightbringer Hey, kinda fun to think of it as an "element." Though I ponder it differently, since it already seems to fuel other elemental magics (fire, ice, earth/green). It makes me put on my tinfoil hat and wonder if there's some universal cosmic Omni-Being that lends a sort of mystical energy to us in the form of life. And our use of that energy via 'blood magic' is basically us turning on "cheat mode" and hacking the secrets of the universe in the form of magical spells. I wonder: Is something watching this song of ice and fire, in-universe?

[@rajshreesinghrajshree1452]

Great work, love to cleo

[@spartan1337la]

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[@Darksun93]

Fire Ghost would kick ass!

[@justmhr7598]

Welcome back david is lucifer

[@greenknightable]

Thank you sir can I have another Stormlight ArcLight whatever summation that was great

[@levismom100]

how very Awesome Sauce that you and Quinn are seeing the Dune movie together how apropos

[@shanejohns7901]

Weirwood trees are strange enough while alive. I would definitely limit my time spent near them for my own sanity's sake. But is dead weirwood completely safe either? I wouldn't trust it. Not in a universe like GoT. Cat's sister and that stunted boy-lord both sat on that dead weirwood throne.

[@lecktmich6780]

Yggr is a name for Odin but it means also fearsome, terrible or impressive. Many other names for Gods are descriptions or traits they are connected with. drasill means steed or horse but could also be a name for a specific horse (but horse could also stand for cross or gallow) but if it would have meant Odins horse Yggr needs to be connected to drasill which is not the case in Yggdrasill but in all the other mentions of Yggr for Odin. If you are going further back for the meaning of drasill it could derive from Proto-Indoeuropean and then it could mean hold. Which could refer to what Yggdrasill does, it holds the world. (That are some of the meanings of Yggdrasill I learned over the time. There are also some scholars who are thinking that there is not a correct translation possible). To translate old Norse is always extremely hard. Especially because the made words up or stretched or shortend them to fit the rhythm.

[@DavidLightbringer]

100% it's never possible to do exact translation with Norse, yeah. I personally love the concepts are at the heart of their thinking; kennings are such interesting ways to express an idea! I think where possible they chose names who's multiple concepts fit what is being described. Yggdrasil is Odin's horse to journey the cosmos and it's his gallows horse of hanged, but also a hold of the world (hold as in holdfast). It's also windy and terrible, capable of unleashing cataclysms pinned below or transmitting the terrible knowledge of the gods

[@danielbrhel8344]

I wish most people would take your advice when it came to Jordan Peterson for politics and differences in general. You aren't going to change someone's mind in KZbin comments, Facebook, or Twitter (especially if they don't want it changed) so just block the people who try. Thanks for biting your tongue and not taking the bait.

[@DavidLightbringer]

I mean I wagged my tongue for a quick second but yeah don’t feed the trolls. You have to learn to tell when someone is being disingenuous as opposed to trying to engage in an actual conversation

[@RedIron914]

What do you think will come ofc Bran Starks hopes and dreams of becoming a member of the kinhsguard with the kingsguard being other symbols?

[@andrewbahlman7768]

Would Lysa represent the nights queen Nissa Nissa turns into? Catelyn being Nissa Nissa before transformation?

[@merkeljohn]

Ok, I'm a little late to the party here (and you may have covered this in a point after I have watched thus far). But what about Lord Ryswell as coldhands (and maybe even the 79 sentinels as his ravens)? That seems very plausible. Keeping eternal watch (check), crossed over long ago (check). I think I need to go back into the stonehands stuff and look for some symbolism. Tough to see the half-blackwood Bloodraven teaming with someone with a horse-based sigil, even if it's not a Bracken's horse, but still. I may make this a superchat or paypal next go-round.

[@merkeljohn]

To add to this, coldhands whispers a blessing in an unknown language when the elk dies (Ryswells are old, old first men). Maybe the old tongue?

[@merkeljohn]

Ok, to tack on one more, it makes sense he'd know all about the NightFort since he's associated with the Night's watch at the time the Nightfort was active. Bran literally talks about him at the Nightfort.

[@merkeljohn]

Ok, last, last one, since I'm essentially just talking to myself. But like you said, sentinels are trees/tree people, spears. Fighters from the Rills (under House Ryswell) specifically makes up the spearmen in one passage. And they sort of attack the white walkers like spearmen in ASOS Sam III chapter.

[@DavidLightbringer]

The problem here is that it says he was sealed up with his son and the other sentinels, so he can't be Coldhands. Also, the children imply that he was killed by the Others or the wights when they say they "they killed him long ago"

[@merkeljohn]

@@DavidLightbringer I went back and looked and it doesn't say that he was sealed up. It just said, "... he had himself carried to the Nightfort so he could take the black and stand beside his son...". It also said, "... he came to share his watch." Also, thanks for replying. Your content is outstanding and I appreciate it!

[@jedaye47]

54:44 triggered the giggles

[@vikingthedude]

When i sit down to eat i realise my white rice is an Others symbolism

[@zenith1047]

Regarding HotD, since GRRM is working with the showrunner, is there any particular event that you'd be looking for extra symbolism in the show to reflect your Mythical Astronomy theories? I know the battle over the God's Eye would be important. I know with the Long Night you said there were leaks of potential moon meteor disasters. Is there any change from Fire and Blood that you think would be good? Like, changing Arya + Roose to Arya + Tywin was great.

[@DavidLightbringer]

Yeah the battle between Rhaenys on Meleys and Aemond One Eye (Vhagar) and Aegon (Sunfyre), also the Moondancer / Sunfire battle with Baela

[@Henbot]

That was one of the longest muted LMAO

[@lucasadam65]

Yay

[@alyswesthill3562]

If George has been working on the show and it has his approval so far, I think that's reason enough to expect it to be of a similar quality of the first seasons of Thrones at least.

[@RedIron914]

Do you think Jon's relationship with Yigrite is foreshadowing his future with the others, Yigrite being a nights gueen figure? Yigrite had sheep skin clothes making her an other figure.

[@DavidLightbringer]

She actually has more fire symbolism, between her kissed by fire hair, her resemblance to a Wierwood tree, John’s dream where she dissolves into the pond in the Winterfell godswood, and the Ygg-rite word pun in her name. But many of the Nissa Nissa Nissa figures show us some degree of transformation into a NQ, Which is why I think they might be the same person

[@DavidLightbringer]

John does his nights king and nights queen roll play with Val, actually, check out the origin of the others Nights queen video

[@davidcauley9400]

Hi LML, Are you disappointed that "House Of..." got greenlit over "Blood Moon"? Honestly I was far more excited to find out what went on in the Age of Heroes, and I feel like I've had enough Targaryen politics and details published to last several lifetimes....but tell me the deep lore behind the ancient legends? Hell yes please. I think HBO took the safer and less interesting series option here.

[@DavidLightbringer]

I guess I have mixed feelings, I understand why they went with House of the dragon material, and that probably makes more sense as a TV adaptation. And likely they would have made a botch of the blood moon show, and that would have hurt a lot more. I think I’m glad they’re not touching the ancient history, I’d like to get Martin’s reveal on that

[@davidcauley9400]

@@DavidLightbringer good point, I never thought about it that way... Perhaps we did indeed dodge an arrow there.

[@Venasvenancio]

By far HBO went to the right and most exciting path. The Game of Thrones was known mainly for its political side mostly with the magical side. Magic has always been less prominent and growing, while politics takes place in the five books. HBO was smart to choose the story that involves the two things that made Game of Thrones what Game of Thrones was: Politics and Dragons.

[@DavidLightbringer]

@@Venasvenancio the show was a total train wreck from season 4 on, period end of story

[@Venasvenancio]

@@DavidLightbringer Yeah, because D&D never cared about ASOIAF. They said they wanted to make the red wedding, and then gave up on adapting the books

[@Brellowcrop]

Is undead Jon gonna bind the nights watch to him?

[@anorangetabby]

I love your channel! Your depth of knowledge on GRRM, symbolism and ties to ancient religions/mythologies is unparalleled. 👏Thank you for the wonderful content! You've earned a new Patreon supporter. P.S. You get a million extra thumbs up for calling out Jordan Peterson and his followers for being the moronic, backwards, woman-haters that they are!

[@gracchus7782]

After this and Law of the Others you should do Numbers of the Others

[@DavidLightbringer]

I thought about it lol

[@havewissmart9602]

Do you think that maybe there are 79 others? Because 12 and 7 and 9 seem a very small number. I think there are only 7 kingsguard because of the interference of the religion the seven

[@DavidLightbringer]

I think we don’t need many Others because it’s actually the army of the dead that poses the big threat. The others probably don’t need to do much combat, wouldn’t want to risk themselves when they have the unstoppable army of wights

[@samuelschlesinger4102]

Brothers from an Other mother.

[@chrisloyal9796]

54:13 Delightful!

[@ToucanBinks]

Got you with the like and comment bro 👍 hope you had a wonderful birthday Oh didn't notice this was a recommendation from 1 year ago 😭😂

[@motorcitymangababe]

I'm big on the idea that there is time wimey stuff going on, so to me the impaled dreamers read as past attempts- both bran and others who could have filled the role - potential greenseer/ nights king/ Azor ahai candidates. Eta- I feel like your idea with the 3 eyed crow points to him being a future bran. Ravens and crows don't have the exact same symbolism, and Blood raven is Bloodraven, not bloodcrow. I think the 3 eyed on the tree and with the crow are a hint that there's a connection there. I also think it ties in with Euron being a crows eye/ anti bloodraven. Bran kind of seems poised to elevate above their perspective ideological approaches and become more, so it would make sense if his symbology reflects that

[@wariscoming.]

What do you mean when you said at :23.37 the nights king created the others ? I thought the others were around before the night king ? I thought azor ahai created the others by invading the weirwood network and forcing the spirits of the Green Men out and turning them into the others ?

[@tool9386]

Sounds like some good cobwebs you get over there is CA.

[@DavidLightbringer]

Hahahaha

[@johnhickman8391]

Deuteronomy is repeat of the law, ie 10 commandments, so laws of the others?

[@syalem]

Reed definitely warged someone on that fight, there's no way they could win if not that

[@mattfox2716]

Schrödingers Sentinels

[@mormontsraven4072]

Moon. Tree. Moon. Stars.

[@crastersson5762]

Praise Craster the other daddy

[@guineveregreenstones9977]

Hey dude. I swear it doesn’t matter how many times I request notifications for your channel I get a couple then it stops. Sorry I missed ya

[@DavidLightbringer]

that's so weird. I wish KZbin was responsive enough for me to complain about it

[@mistermaestersirthomas9164]

1:25:25 GRRM likes inverted parallels... You don't say... Twins, twins, ect. Neverending twin clues. Black (guy in black like medieval Darth Vader) vs wight (like Undead Jon)

[@zachbarker497]

So this is wildly random. But George had a hand in writing Elden ring. Idk how much of it he was involved in but blue stars and meteors crashing into the planet is central and repeated in the deep lore. Might be crackpot but it's interesting

[@mattfox2716]

Instead of the white walkers it is the green coughers 1:05:51

[@arthurcosta9482]

So there are only SEVEN Others? If they are symbolically the Night King's Kingsguard

[@DavidLightbringer]

Six. Waymar, post transformation, is the symbolic seventh

[@arthurcosta9482]

@@DavidLightbringer Ahhh! Thank you very much for answering my comment here from BRAZIL! I came across your channel by chance in the video of the empire of dawn, and I found all your videos so interesting (I don't even know English, I read the subtitles of your videos in Portuguese) and when I blinked I was watching your video for more than an HOUR, and as Augusto Cury once said "the greatest source of human entertainment is the construction of thoughts", I was prejudiced with your appearance at the beginning for having a retarded face but you are GENIAL!!

[@arthurcosta9482]

@@DavidLightbringer Lots and lots of love to you and your family! What's your favorite house and character mine is Lannister and Tywin! You already mentioned that the Empire of Dawn had something to do with the Lannisters which?

[@mattfox2716]

Schrödinger’s Sentinels 12:20