Can YOU find 90 POINT Wines UNDER $20?

[@Stanvansandt]

This is my second favorite of your videos, and the first to make me want to go out and search for the specific wines you reviewed. I'm definitely going to get that Bordeaux, and even though I've been avoiding American wines while I learn the ropes (I'm a real newbie to red wines and on a tight budget), that Pinot Noir may be too hard to resist. Good job, Matthew - keep up the good work!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks a lot and the Pinot is definitely worth checking out! There are some links in the description box.

[@hottuna2006]

Absolutely agree with you regarding wine critics. Suckling gives out points like it's candy and Parker (WA) was responsible for the "Parkerization" of wines so I'll leave it at that. As I mostly drink and collect Bordeaux, I often find Neal Martin's ratings and comments to be good reference points.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Ahhh a Bordeaux drinker! I like Neal but his articles can get long winded

[@rodjacobs3396]

LOTS of good advice here. For one checking the importer on the label. And yes finding a wine critic whose taste match up to your own. Or at least realize the taste of that critic to benchmark against your own. I've noticed that my taste seems to follow yours in general. 5-10 years ago I probably would have preferred that Goru Gold. It's still a decent wine but my taste has moved from there. And with working in wine retail it can be tough recommending wine to people. The way I see it everyone is on their own particular wine journey through their lives. In my younger days when I was first getting into wine I would hate the wines I'm into now. And of course now I can't believe some of the wines I used to like years ago. For a lot of people it's like trying to feel them out and see what part of the wine journey they are on. For some the journey changes a lot and progresses. For some maybe they find a spot they like and stay there. And for others, they stick with those early wines they first started drinking and never leave that spot. And yes that Pinot Project PN is one I recommend to people a lot who are either new to wine or maybe new to red wine or even new to PN in general.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Ahhhh you really know how to take care of your customers. It’s always difficult to recommend wines vs what we as wine people like

[@smithscott1700]

I have learned not to take these points too seriously. Grape and region are more important to me. Even then it's potluck most of the time with cheaper wines. There are so many. My problem with cheap Bordeaux reds is that they lack the fruit but don't have much to offer instead and have something of the wet newspaper to them. Can you make a video on how to choose Bordeaux wines under $20? Love your enthusiasm! Many thanks!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

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[@thethirstymason9684]

I love this video. The points system isn't perfect. And it needs to be regulated by a major governing body but. Unfortunately this is the best tool we have to rate and buy our wine on. I personally prefer to shop by variety and region.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Ahhh that is a good strategy, thanks a lot for the comment btw

[@thethirstymason9684]

@@drmatthewhorkey thanks for the wonderful content. It's so underrated. Wine channels aren't a joke. Every video costs you a tonne of money and the views are minimal. Meanwhile buy $12 bucks worth of mince meat and cheese and make a burger and your some big shot. Damn shame. But I salute your dedication to the vine sir

[@drmatthewhorkey]

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[@alexanderlachmann7292]

How people perceive wines is extremely subjective and depends on the circumstance. You always hear the joke that when blind tasting people can't tell the difference between white and red wine. So for fun we did a test and chilled a red wine and let a white wine warm up to room temp. Then we let multiple people at a party try 4 wines (red warm, red cold, white warm, white cold). 3 out of 4 got some wrong, which I find pretty telling about what to expect from a 100 point wine rating.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Hahahha you are throwing some rad dinner parties! Very cool

[@shahramsoltani3139]

Would be fun if you try some of Drood wine! It’s the only existing Persian winery in the world after 1979! A crazy project that has started in 2021 🍷

[@drmatthewhorkey]

😮😮😮 one of the birthplaces of wine!

[@michaelfitzgerald434]

My favorite wine critics are Parker, Dunnick and Vineous. These are the ones I know the best and I almost never go outside their recommendations. I realize I am probably missing some pretty good wines but there are just too many critics. These critics I know I can rely on.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

That’s what’s important, finding someone you trust for recommendations.

[@kcb5150]

Kanonkop Kadette Cape Blend with a few years on the bottle is just awesome for the money when it isn't overly heavy on pinotage or merlot. Try a 2018 bottle, it's very nice.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

It’s a nice wine for sure!

[@kcb5150]

@@drmatthewhorkey Garzon Tannat Reserva is like $15 and probably hits the 90 threshold also on a good bottle, though it would probably be more polarizing than the Kadette.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

also very good!

[@kcb5150]

@@drmatthewhorkey I have been subjecting myself to a lot of sub $20 Italian bottles lately and it's hard in NYC to find a good one. I have come to the conclusion Barbera is the way to go mostly. Or cannonau from Sardinia if you count that... Chianti is Russian roulette under $20

[@kcb5150]

Though a good one I had last week was Mazzei Badiola Toscana 2019. I wouldn't give it 90 as a wine in general, but judging it at the $14 price point and where it came from it was about as good as one would expect for the cash in this day and age for an inexpensive italian wine with sangiovese as the main grape in the blend.... It was let down a bit by the slightest hint of va.

[@terryklender4209]

Absolutely you can, I find them all the time.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I agreee

[@comesahorseman]

To answer the question...yes. 90 Plus Cellars. Thier Mosel Riesling and Santa Barbara Pinot Noir are both excellent.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

90 plus Cellars??

[@comesahorseman]

@@drmatthewhorkey yup, that's the name on the label. Maybe it's not widely distributed in your home area, but it is here in New England.

[@ttjwoon]

Surprised Giesen was scored that high! I live 15 mins away from their Marlborough Vineyards, come visit!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I hope to make it down there again soon mate!

[@Japanthewoman]

I don't know much about wine scoring so if I consider a wine score at all it's just to know that this wine met the criteria to get that score. So it's "good" in an objective sense but whether I like it or not is still completely subjective. That being said, I LOVE malbec so I will definitely give that Trivento a try!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Ahhhh let me know what you think. Yes scoring is toughhhhhh

[@jd892]

As a rough rule of thumb give or take 1 or 2 points. (Points - 50) ÷ 10 = score out of 5 95 = 4.5/5 90 = 4 85 = 3.5 Give or take 0.1 or 0.2 depending the critic obviously

[@drmatthewhorkey]

nicceee, my Vivino conversion is similar

[@jicklesjingles8134]

The new 2020 Cru Bourgeois system could be worth a quick mentioning 😉

[@drmatthewhorkey]

A bit much for most people hahahaha

[@welshtoro3256]

There are a ton of Spanish wines that get 90 or above for $20. The best quality/value wines in the world.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Right up there with Portugal for me too!

[@invinoveritas8704]

The precision wines at Costco are pretty good, but once a decent wine gets discovered the price shoots up.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Costco does a good job of rotating stock, so you should be ok!

[@prccap]

I know the ones I trust the least as of late is definitely the Suckling ones

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Hahahahah, he does score a bit high

[@spidi26]

I thought Malbec was original from Cahors not Bourdeaux. cheers

[@drmatthewhorkey]

You are right! Honest mistake

[@hottuna2006]

I wonder if some of those red wines would have improved if you had decanted and aerated them for a few hours.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Or they could fall apart 😱

[@hottuna2006]

@@drmatthewhorkey If those young wines are falling apart after a few hours, there are bigger worries than aeration.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

A lot of cheaper wines tend to fall apart with air IMO

[@jdx7906]

boop sound effect is a bit too loud honestly, great vid though.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks!

[@duncansalmon5718]

You can find good pinot noir, and you can find cheap pinot noir, but it's hard to find good, cheap pinot noir.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Very very well said…

[@JackAgainski]

I never trust any rating from Decanter. Always deduct 7 points or so. RP is still the best IMO.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Ahhhh ic… I like Vinous for scores

[@oltch.]

Yes You can drink 90 wines under 20 dollars. But probably not under $18.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I put that to the test in this video with some surprising results 😉

[@martinsimon2538]

The number rating system has become a joke I think the reviewers description of the wine tells me more information Do some homework on wine regions and producers Stick to good vintages a rising tide raises all boats so even the "lesser" wines from a region will be good Obviously try to taste as many wines as you can do develop a feel for your palate preferences

[@drmatthewhorkey]

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[@martinsimon2538]

Thank you Matthew keep up the good work👍

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I appreciate your comments