San Diego Vacation Travel Guide | Expedia

[@Jay-qu6xi]

San Diego Zoo, Seaworld, Legoland, Old Town, Balboa Park and many beaches make San Diego a fine place to live.

[@Southpaw128]

no offense but fuck seaworld

[@kylehowe6761]

@@Southpaw128 you are stupid seaworld is not evil you clown

[@SanDiegoPodiatrist]

San Diego is really a nice city to live in. It's actually the second biggest city in California. The nice thing about it is that it has the convenience of a large city but the friendliness of a small town.

[@CaptGage]

Nice. I have only been there when I was 10. I hope to visit again.

[@goldenboy6931]

I love it & I'd die to start a new life there asap!!!

[@helpmenow7]

Great weather and just too crowded

[@mnnwise5763]

San Diego is one of the most visited cities in America. Which points of this city are famous, what are the points that you should not go without seeing? Let's explore together. www.mnnwise.com/san-diego-places-to-visit/

[@davidgagliardo8162]

You hit it on the head with that one, I couldn't agree more

[@wlhardy]

My hubby was a career Navy man and we spent 4.5 years in SD, loved it, gorgeous scenery, perfect sunny weather, no need for A/C or even a heater in your home, wonderful beaches, I especially remember the Corvette Diner in Balboa Park. Just wish it wasn't so horrendously expensive home-wise.

[@TheShigo69]

I live in downtown San Diego and this video made me misty eyed. I love this city so much. It really is one of the finest cities in America.

[@carlsm95]

^^wtf? Some people like William can be such morons for no reason

[@chadg75]

Hello I saw your post and would you have any idea where I would look to plan a vacation with my 2 boys that are 8 and 9. Basically looking to build an itinerary.

[@jaytaylor629]

San Diego is hands down the best city in California. Beautiful weather. Amazing people. So many things to do! What's not to like about San Diego? I would move there over Los Angeles and San Francisco any day.

[@californiamade5608]

Jay Parker lol San Diego sucks! There’s no culture.

[@adventurem8887]

Orlando Nunez Have you ever been to SD? There’s a very strong diversity in the city

[@lynksis12]

@@californiamade5608 shut up you dumb friscoid. There's a reason why a majority of the country looks down on SF

[@ES031]

The first time I went to San Diego was 3 years ago. I had the time of my life. Ever since then, I've wanted to go back or even move there. This video gave me the feels.

[@Expedia]

+Emmanuel Sullivan It's time for another visit! Thanks for watching.

[@tahalovestosing1104]

+Expedia i live in los Angeles ill be visting san Diego soon

[@Mariofavor]

+Manny TheTuber As a native San Diegan, might I warn you that San Diego is a very, very costly place to live in, however, that depends on your financial status lmao

[@chocolatcats]

LIFE EVERYWHERE IS EXPENSIVE...I used to live at Pacific Beach and find it the same price as anywhere ....I miss it. I live at the beach now but Ventura not SD..I prefer SD

[@inmyopinionwisdom4986]

"DITTO"! :-D

[@omarjumaa]

San Diego one of the best cities that I visited. I love this city and especially La Jolla.

[@invisibleother7886]

La Joya*

[@Kimmy476]

+InvisibleOther it's la jolla.

[@ES031]

Agreed! I visited la jolla, and it was beautiful there. I wanted to stay forever.

[@RaulGonzalez-xt1kx]

+Kimmy476 the jewell is spanish ;D

[@nancyscarbrough3450]

LA Jolla is a great place to see!! thanx

[@devinm4517]

SD has so much to offer north, south, east and west and even in the center lol!, Wow its a great city God Bless USA!!!

[@technodash4092]

I used to live in San Diego for 8 years. Now I really missed that place because I moved to Phoenix since 2011 because of the house prices. I missed the beaches and architecture of the city. Very beautiful city.

[@anthonyhenderson8371]

Technodash not as crowded as Los Angeles and has clearer skies just like Orange County

[@pntravels7514]

All the beaches are so pretty came here 1964 live here ever since going to die in San Diego yay! I love you San Diego the finest city in the US.

[@christinebethencourt6197]

I am french, i went to san diego last year and..... yeah ! A dream place ❤️

[@nicolettefernandes8189]

so lucky to call this my home born and raised why would anyone want to leave

[@Winnas]

***** Cost of living. Owning a house is a pipe dream for most in this city.

[@prettyrikkirozay]

***** You are very very lucky! I got the chance to live here just a few months, and it was the most beautiful place I ever lived in! The only thing is the cost of living, I have a 3 bedroom house with basement and garage and huge yard here in Michigan for just 600 a month, No chance I will find that there. If I win the lotto, San Diego is where I will be :)

[@0123biteme]

Rikki Lewis I live in a cramped 1 bedroom apartment for 1,300 and will probably never own a house but I refuse to leave San Diego.

[@prettyrikkirozay]

I don't blame you! to live in SD I would pay 1,300 for rent too! :)

[@Matanumi]

Andrew Laney nothing compared to Vancouver.

[@jennylifejourney5656]

So lucky living here for almost 21 years💕 proud to be San Diegan! Beautiful city, Beautiful weather Beautiful people❤️🌷🌸🌈 🌊

[@Sweetdaddy411]

I visit SD for the first time as child and think much about it,but when came back 30 yrs later. Oh my God! I fell in love with the city!! I was born in LA,but I was choose SD over LA any day!!!

[@elizabethh4855]

I like San Diego over L.A.I haven't seen much of San Francisco but on my next trip to Cali I'll be sure to visit San Francisco. The one thing I love about SoCal is the beaches and the cool weather. It beats Houston any day of the week.

[@akshatri3058]

Hands down the most beautiful city in the USA.

[@timb.6273]

one of the most beautiful cities in the world ! im from munich - germany

[@anthonyyb619]

Being from southeast San Diego, (Euclid ave and Div st) Its amazing how different San Diego can be when you live outside of the privileged areas.. not knocking anyone who lives near the beach but they live in a dream world compared to where i grew up. I know a lot of young kids who never even been to the beach and they grew up here. That being said, San Diego is a beautiful city with beautiful people and very diverse. I recently traveled to San Fransisco and was blown away.. Its on a different level of beauty. I recommend it to anyone who hasn't been.

[@sano8303]

+Anthonyyb619 I live in the Skyline areas and what you said is true however San Diego on a whole is quite beautiful even the ghetto areas are nicer compared to other cities. I've been to LA and it made me appreciate this fine city i grew up in, definitely something to be proud of.

[@anthonyb3426]

+Sabrina Noor I agree 100% and I am proud and blessed to be from Americas Finest City.. I think living here so long makes me lose site of how beautiful it really is especially compared to other cities throughout the US.

[@sano8303]

+Bryan Brown amen bro

[@chickenwityamz]

Thats real bro!

[@lynksis12]

I was raised City Heights. Well said.

[@Altenholz]

Stayed there back in 1998 for one week. Perfect time to me!

[@nonstop9907]

Looks like a nice part of the world, I have only been lucky enough to go the United States once before, and came back to England broke, but it was totally worth it for the memories that I made, hopefully one day I will return to the US and see more of what each state has to offer, The United States of America is a great country, and if you love it please defend it, and the Values that America was founded upon.

[@jul_lopez]

Non Stop you seem like a great person. Hope you got your money back lol!

[@merryjane2095]

You can come visit me in The Good ol US of A. 🥰

[@nigward2271]

U still broke?

[@juliasarcade5860]

💖💖💖

[@natowarsaw]

I miss living in San Diego. Theres always something to do

[@nicolevanbeek1994]

I love San Diego. However, it will be hard visiting again as I lost my close cousin that lived her. I love and miss you Cousin Tammy.

[@AnthonyHenderson-vf8ly]

Sorry to hear that 😢😢

[@mtntrailsubie]

Lived in San Diego for 8 years already. This video makes this city look really nice.

[@williamlofland8451]

thatV4guy that's because it's all cgi lol

[@themysteriousgravityfalls]

William Lofland no it's not.

[@BrianAddison94]

thatV4guy The video doesn't make the city look nice, It's just really nice, period. You obviously never lived here, or ever been here in San Diego, dumbass.

[@TheJusticefornone]

All you guys make me want to throw up right now

[@NZCrypT]

Went to San Diego and I have to say it was very clean and seems like a great city to live in.

[@selma1763]

Your right! Living in San Diego County is awesome! And you can switch cities at all the time! Today I went in 3 cities in San Diego.

[@IcedCoffee81]

I wish I can afford to live there. I am from the SF Bay Area and my family wants to relocate to Las Vegas, NV in a couple years. Even though I wouldn't mind living there temporarily just to save money, I still feel that my heart belongs to California. Hope I could find a better paying job in the future to live in San Diego. It's a nice place.

[@dang.6992]

I've been to many places and cities in the USA, but i always comeback and say that San Diego... still is the nicest city and i am lucky to be living here!

[@jorgehernandez7723]

love my city

[@alanxdAlan]

IKR

[@selma1763]

I love SD city too, but I'm pretty sure they were talking about San Diego County since they mentioned other cities in SD

[@dkdudbekrn2823]

jorge Hernandez same

[@Nizam47]

Love to visit San Diego once looks like cool city 😎👍🏻

[@selma1763]

I just love seeing the comments saying " I love San Diego " or " I wanna go there ". Living in San Diego is the best thing ever! And the good thing is that there's the best Mexican food. And at schools there spanish duel immersion! So you can learn spanish! San Diego is my life!

[@williamlofland8451]

HeyItzSafe they need to start pouring queso on some ground beef burritos in San Diego

[@selma1763]

William Lofland 😂

[@scotttaylor5928]

I think you mean “Spanish” not “Mexican”

[@Gobbersmack]

Learning Mexican isn't a good thing. It's a terrifying sign that California is becoming Mexico.

[@JCM715]

@@Gobbersmack well california was part of mexico a long time ago. Thats why a lot of city names are spanish related

[@pulp735]

Moving in a few weeks. Can't wait!

[@Expedia]

Good luck with your move to sunny San Diego!

[@juniordelarosa4368]

I’m from Houston Texas but have always wanted to visit this city, shoutout to all the beautiful people from San Diego ✌🏾

[@Krispy95]

I live in SoCal and used to have a beach house in San Diego and I miss it soo bad. But me and family still go there every year in the summer for our family reunion.Can't wait to move here in 2 years!

[@devilback1485]

It's all fun and games until you look at the price tag of anything

[@joeyjojojunior1794]

I despise the alternative: no fun and games!!!

[@betsyross1621]

Oh well that's life cheapo

[@yes-bd9js]

@@belloshortz dollar tree is better

[@ezequielramirez2086]

You get what you pay for

[@kayd731]

Cheaper than LA

[@Amicoskates01]

Moving in around a month! Excited but nervous!

[@Expedia]

You'll love San Diego! Congrats and good luck with your move!

[@EpicDinosaur321]

San Diego is an amazing place to live. The weather is so nice. :)

[@sarahskicks4217]

I hope you like it! I've lived here for years :P and it's pretty amazing.

[@Chriss027]

so how is it going there?^^

[@currentteeth4078]

Andrew Amico I'm late but how'd it go?

[@shannonlee3671]

I may be moving from Phoenix to San Diego and this just has me pumped up. I'm ready to go!

[@PackCorey]

I would LOVE to live in either Phoenix or San Diego! I think those are Great cities to find a home, start a career, and get married and raise a family in!

[@petecostello5169]

Shannon Lee

[@anthonyhenderson8371]

Hopefully you have a job lined up before you arrive there and good luck.

[@crickstore]

my home town for 1 complete decade ...2007 to 2017. Hard to get over San Diego. Such a lovely place

[@adriansoriano47]

The best state of the USA .. Moving to there in 5 months I can't wait 👏

[@kllyjrd]

But is it the best city in the best state? San Diego V. Santa Barbara

[@mapleking6602]

Moving from where? I am in Canada right now and thinking of either going to Miami or San Diego. Have you been to either place?

[@drekavacx5673]

Maple King Miami's kinda grimy.. I guess beauty's in the eye of the beholder, but it doesn't hold a candle to SD imo. Not to mention Florida's weather SUCKS for a number of reasons. Humidity, can't walk 10 steps without sweating, rain every day in the spring/summer, Hurricanes, tornadoes etc. etc. SD gets none of that.

[@kllyjrd]

Michael Puckett You make a good point, personally I have lived in San Diego my entire life, and am over the city. I would like to see and experience a new place. Miami seems like a good option, it seems green from all the rain, I really miss rain here in San Diego, our rainy season has not been that rainy. In Miami there are coconut trees everywhere. But there are downsides as you mentioned also no mountains, and lots of mosquitoes.

[@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333]

Regardless of where you prefer living, we have beautiful cities and landscapes here in America.

[@sheltonlogan]

Greatest city in america. Born and raised. I love the fact san diego is still kinda underrated.

[@RoryMcCall]

Absolutely incredible place. If you visit California you MUST visit San Diego

[@TheJusticefornone]

Rory McCall No it is not San Diego is EXTREMELY corrupt!

[@Abel-Alvarez]

^Excuse the idiot. San Diego is really fun to visit and explore tbh I've been to old town,little italy,legoland,carlsbad, mission beach,balboa park,la jolla,,etc. There's so much to do and visit it's insane. I love it! 😁

[@nicolevanbeek1994]

Going to San Diego this summer for three and a half weeks!

[@anthonyhenderson8371]

Have a nice trip

[@mad4you1000]

Seriously considering moving there after college!!

[@HappyFace7115]

Please do!

[@currentteeth4078]

Chico Williams it's well worth it!

[@m1jime]

i loved living and growing up here. currently living abroad but San Diego will always be home

[@adankim2232]

Expedia, ur videos are so awesome! It has been my pleasure for me traveling through various places. Keep up the good work :)

[@ian7133]

i was born here, in San Diego, California. Proud to be an American 🇺🇸

[@skippydw1228]

The only California city that I like.

[@ubahnfreak1]

But los Angeles ist great too

[@atlantis5931]

SkippyDW Arizona

[@hectorb2579]

Fire You live there? Well good luck 🥵🥵🥵 🔥🔥🔥

[@atlantis5931]

Jeffy yea i live in sedona

[@StamfordBridge]

That’s crazy. California has great cities. You must have some particular axe to grind. Any neutral loves San Francisco, for example, just as they do San Diego. And L.A. has a lot to love, but you have to go find it.

[@knicole5685]

I will be there in 2 days! Balboa park here i come!

[@anthonyhenderson8371]

Have a nice trip

[@hannarodriguez4112]

I've lived here all my life and i absolutely love it

[@selma1763]

Hanna Rodriguez me too!

[@selma1763]

👍🏻

[@shinjiharaguchi5460]

Hanna Rodriguez San Francisco is better than San Diego

[@honestmagafanhonestbillsfa452]

@@shinjiharaguchi5460 no.

[@ianholmes7939]

San Diego is the best city in California!

[@banana2510]

I recently interviewed for graduate school in SD and this video definitely helped me get a feel of what SD is about before I went down. After I have visited, I am so in love with it. I'm moving there in the fall (and I got into grad school as well)! ;)

[@Expedia]

+banana2510 Congrats!

[@ArchYeomans]

+banana2510 You should visit Barcelona.

[@joemammi9436]

you won't regret it, I lived there for 4 years and I loved it

[@jasminefreeman1471]

Congratulations! I am moving there next summer. This video helped me as well. Hope to see you around Doc lol

[@banana2510]

Thanks! Congrats to you as well. You're in for a treat! :)

[@brielle3974]

can't wait to go here tomorrow! plane leaves at 8 am! beaches here I come!

[@soleil3gs]

I live here in San Diego, most beautiful city I have seen in my life

[@frankiemoore9127]

maybe becasue you haven't been anywhere else

[@kingNight09]

im coming soon in august .. can u give me list of best restaurant that i should visit ? thanks

[@kingNight09]

QueenCoCoaMocha its poor

[@kingNight09]

Vladimir Prokov i thought i about fmaily business ?

[@christina-yc1dq]

Fish Market in down town.

[@양호신-y1z]

That vedio had useful informations. I hope the travel San Diego next year. San Diego has good landscape and many attractions. I'm really want to go San Diego!!

[@taiphan9480]

I going to San Diego next year.so great the little city.

[@selma1763]

Tai phan Once your in San Diego City it's a MUST to go other cities in San Diego County (Where San Diego city is). You should go to La Jolla or National city or Chula Vista!

[@michaelloedel750]

I’m surprised Comic-Con, The Del Mar Fair, and The Del Mar horse races weren’t mentioned! Del Mar Fair is one of the best in the world! :)

[@traveltwist3859]

San Diego... Gotta love it. SD is soo great. Can't wait to be back, which will be very soon. I'm not gonna wanna leave ever once I'm there.

[@minakoa7178]

I live 17 minutes from downtown San Diego. I should go there more often.

[@Crazy5]

lived in San Diego for 4 years. Moved back to the UK but i miss San Diego every single day. Hopefully i'll be back there at some point in my life

[@911copcam]

I miss PB I miss this city I lived there in 2008, the people are awesome

[@Expedia]

Gregory Pearson We hope you get to visit San Diego again soon! Thank you so much for watching :)

[@sandiegonightgrind4867]

I was born and raised in San Diego for 25 years I'm still here and don't plan on leaving..why would anybody leave this city? we got the best of everything..girls,food,beer,beaches and vibes..it is a lil expensive but it is well worth it..wouldn't live anywhere else!! #San Diego

[@BadassEFdriver]

You sir are lucky.. I hear a lot of trash talk by other Californians already living there.. but they honestly don't know how good they have it.. sure housing is pricey.. But somebody once said that's the cost of high living.. Better than being in a city that's somewhat affordable AND all the girls are fat, moody, overweight, ugly, psycho, alcoholic- drug abusers & all have kids by the age of 21 lol

[@Drink6up]

+BadassEFdriver you my friend are funny haha , I agree 100 percent!

[@TheJusticefornone]

I freakin HATEEEEEEEEEEE San Diego can't wait to move to Oakland SOOOOOOOOOOOO much better out there MUCH more to do and WAYYYYY better people!

[@claudiachacon2683]

SanDiego NightGrind 6

[@worldpeace9253]

SanDiego NightGrind best city in the world if you don’t want to accomplish anything and be a beach bum your whole life

[@GoodHare]

I enjoyed watching this video. I am a Kenyan and I hope to visit San Diego one day.

[@KaseyWillow]

going to san diego in 13 days yay

[@seb2619]

i am a san diego native and i can personally attest to the fact that this is the way i spend every day XD

[@jaeb.3368]

I went to San Diego two days ago... and it was beautiful!

[@Expedia]

Jae B. We hope you had a fun trip! :)

[@jaeb.3368]

Thanks Expedia! I did! :D

[@msanm5]

Don´t lie...

[@viperflint8534]

Going to sand Diego for 3 days in 6 hours from posting this message. Cant sleep. long flight ahead

[@msanm5]

Chase Aring and?

[@livestream6317]

I want to go to Sandiego to watch the baseball game of Padres！ From Japan🇯🇵

[@fidgetspinner1501]

Will go there in two weeks.. Very excited!

[@dominikamimari427]

I was born in Chicago but raised in san Diego for about 10 years best 10 yrs of my Life!!!!

[@goldenboy6931]

I'm going there this year in 2019for a visit. & If things go well, I might move there out of Ottawa. Paradise alright.

[@benanderson5063]

The best place in California!

[@darkmanss5405]

Amazing California, my dreamland.

[@evilpagan2342]

DARKMAN ss Where are you from? :)

[@arawsandiego9903]

The finest city of USA.

[@purplecoconut333]

Wow! That sunset... I'm from Spain and I'm planning to move to San Diego in a couple years. This video is great! Everything looks just so beautiful... Can't wait!!! Thanks for sharing it!

[@Expedia]

MoonbeamsC Thank you so much for watching! You're going to love San Diego, it's an amazing city! Have a wonderful day!

[@jeagerjeager9171]

have you moved yet

[@marquez2390]

Have you moved yet?

[@Alanpersonhere]

Have you moved yet? :)

[@greatman6487]

Great place.. i wanna go there for a vacation...

[@anthonyhenderson8371]

B.Mishra I’m planning to go there once this Coronavirus is over

[@andreareyes7300]

I live in San Diego and I've been to all these places in the video my favorite place is Sea World. I'm lazy af but when someone tells me we're going to sea world I get up and get ready even if it's cold I like going on the water rides🤣🤣🤣

[@blakeadamson8681]

San Diego is nice move over.

[@thatguyoverthere1247]

god bless America 😍

[@derinyaglkc4839]

r u sure bout that

[@nicolevanbeek1994]

I am glad the pandas are back 😊

[@EpicDinosaur321]

People should check out Del Mar too! The beach is nice.

[@dogman12ist]

So proud to be born and raised in Daygo.❤️

[@grandproject5799]

I live in LA and i love San Diego

[@idk9967]

I was born in San Diego and I still live there or here, the Del mar fair is fun

[@eltoncollier9568]

I'm from Houston & San Diego is my 2nd home...I love it here, beautiful city, nice weather, beaches, beautiful women...can get worse than that

[@anthonyhenderson8371]

Elton Collier yeah I met some girl from Cali and she was hot and friendly

[@ElranBiton]

miss you 619 with love from Israel

[@theottomans]

one of the best places on earth, I had my best time during my semester abroad over there, which I will never forget..

[@нинавеликова-ь2з]

Красивые виды, очень симпатичное место!Спасибо за показ!

[@TheKhadleferone]

See you on March :) Thanks expedia for a great deal :)

[@Expedia]

TheKhadleferone We hope you have a wonderful time visiting San Diego!

[@TheKhadleferone]

I really enjoyed San Diego, I wanna go back and I miss that place,, Thanks for this guide, i went to the places that featured here,, :)

[@christopher7952]

Beautiful city san Diego

[@ADAMan123]

I just find it funny that everyone watching this video lives in San Diego. lol. great city though!

[@JeckoSTARlaloo]

Perhaps a testament of their pride and love for their city ❤️

[@littleskitgirl13]

omg if you go to old town san diego YOU NEED TO GET THEIR HOMEMADE TORTILLAS!!!!!!!

[@bryanmabini9608]

YESSS THAT STUFF IS THE BEST!

[@fernandogonzalez-hc4pe]

Emily Garcia yes it’s the best

[@StamfordBridge]

Emily Garcia Recommend a particular restaurant in Old Town?

[@shashankkushanapalli9896]

@@bryanmabini9608 ko

[@shashankkushanapalli9896]

Mk

[@Krossi33]

will be there for a half year and i just cant wait :)

[@tachscratch]

my favourite city

[@selma1763]

Which city though, I think they were talking about San Diego County since they talked about other cities in SDC

[@andreareyes7300]

HeyItzSafe 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@paerikang9293]

oh~~!! Very beautiful sight.scene.

[@mateuscintra6185]

San Diego é mto legal quero morar lá

[@goldenboy6931]

San Diego is a happy place to live & be rich or poor. You feel it in nice Ocean & breeze. I'm moving from Ottawa Canada. Big difference. No more winter & harsh Snow's.

[@thekingtanas6771]

beautiful place

[@lebumjames1330]

Visited San Diego for the first time and was amazed, great place!

[@3C7S]

greatest city in the US in my opinion

[@andreareyes7300]

Connor Giorgio yeah

[@tinahou6185]

Thanks for you guys to make it. It has been used to help my students learn more about San Diego so that they can choose univercities. From Shanghai.

[@Expedia]

Hi Tina! We are so glad that you found our video helpful to your students, and we hope they can find their favorite university. San Diego is a wonderful city and we are sure they will enjoy studying there. We would love to make a video about Shanghai and hopefully we can send our team there soon!

[@trevordavis3612]

San Diago! Gotta love it!

[@gregturley35]

I'm going there in December

[@salehnno8162]

San Diego 😭😭😭😭😭❤️my love ❤️

[@SuurfinBird]

I'm looking to visit the US and as im from Sweden i wanna go somewhere warm! :) so i was thinking California. San Diego looks amazing!! Also been thinking about San Francisco.

[@davidc293]

Don't forget LOS ANGELES !!!

[@tracyl2009]

+SuurfinBird You will LOVE San Diego. It is gorgeous!! The weather is perfect much of the time. There can be a stubborn marine layer that hangs around around the June time frame, what we call June gloom, but that usually burns off by afternoon.

[@evilpagan2342]

+SuurfinBird San Francisco is cold and foggy half of the time. Come to one of the LA Beach Cities to use for a base and just make a road trip to San Diego instead - it's only 1 1/2 hours south, you can make a stop in beautiful Laguna Beach on the way back and cross the border into Mexico from San Diego. Vegas also is just 5 hours from LA and Santa Barbara 1 1/2 hours.

[@californiamade5608]

edwardschlosser1 San Francisco has some some beautiful weather in September-November. You have no idea what you’re talking about lol. San Diego has homeless and traffic as well.