Expensive VS Affordable Drive Pedal Challenge! Is It Worth It?

[@brianburke808]

I think you guys just sold another couple thousand of golden plexi pedals for tone city. :D

[@cIzanagi]

cheapest reverb vs most expensive reverb? also maybe with delay?? you could have a series going on here! it's so entertaining!!

[@virnalinebrida-sunga7748]

Cristiano Salgado does not matter, Neunaber Immerse reigns supreme

[@BeNNstAh]

That, or the Strymon pedals

[@GitShiddy]

Yeah! They could call it David versus Goliath, oh wait I think that's taken.

[@cupolove1]

I LOVE the HOF reverb. for the price, its hard to beat.

[@AlexBarelyCivil]

strymon vs rv6

[@brianpeter7139]

Golden Plexi *killed* it, detailed, crisp, authentic amp tone. The Vemuram sounds woofy/muddy, like a pedal played through an amp with a blanket over the speaker.

[@SushiDaddy]

Challenge Idea: STOLEN GEAR CHALLENGE You're on tour, halfway through. But guess what? Last night, you got all your gear stolen. You have at least 15 more dates on your tour. Armed with only the 500 pounds you earned last night, what gig-ready, theatre-rocking rig (guitar, amp, and at least one pedal) do you come up with?? BLUES Vs. SHRED TOO!!

[@SushiDaddy]

I've seen at least three bands live that have had this happen to them, so it's a really realistic predicament.

[@spikewilson6539]

they've done that one before it was a £500 gig rig challenge

[@SushiDaddy]

Link me bro.

[@ZorkuAravar]

Don't know if you found it yet, but if not, here you go. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYjWgqdrpdmhg8U

[@ZaneFowler]

If that happens, other bands on tour usually lend gear.

[@urbanweekendwarrior7238]

so for 300 extra, you get a muddy tone. I never have had any issue cutting tone (there's a knob on the guitar if I'm really at a loss).. but it's impossible to brighten up and add clarity back to a pre-muddled sound.

[@thedriverman1217]

Urban Weekend Warrior it wasn't always muddy, I would say it has a much warmer tone, the Plexi sounds very bright next to it. they both sound really good, but for the money I would choose Golden Plexi.

[@MrTrollinglol]

If you listen closely the Vemuram has much better note definition and way better dynamics, that's what you're paying for

[@FeralMarauder]

MrTrollinglol Not what I'm paying for. lol

[@sgtpepper91]

nah, the tone city sounds reaaalllly thin

[@Zlagie]

better and less noisy to take away tone than it is to boost tone. music production 101

[@TheKingOfTheHorse]

Most expensive Cable vs Affordable, great series.

[@martinkrauser4029]

past a quite low quality threshold, cables don't perceptibly affect the signal tone the cheapest one is probably crap, but second most affordable just as good as the most expensive that would be a very boring test, but it would prove a point

[@gratefuldylan8222]

Milton Velosa Not a bad idea I got an expensive cable and it died on me at a gig and I've been using a cheap cable I've had for 3 times as long and it works just fine

[@glenn2376]

Durability

[@ksukhia]

Construction and whether the shielding is braided or spiral will effect durability, memory (how long it holds its coil after its wrapped), how it moves or doesnt etc as well.

[@martinkrauser4029]

None of these make cable expensive to make, though.

[@cameroncrowley1226]

The Vemuram is really dark and choked sounding compared to the Golden Plexi. The Golden Plexi would be better for a metal tone with lots of definition, where I think the Vemuram would be better for a more blues sound. Just my two cents. I personally prefer the Golden Plexi.

[@michaeljenkins9052]

Cameron Crowley you've got a point, wonder how it would sound if rob wasn't playing ripping rock chords

[@Chirn70]

The thing is, how are you going to get more tone through the Vemuram? With the Plexi, you can just use your guitar tone control rolled back and you have the sound of the Vemuram.

[@CAPFlyer]

The Vemuram almost sounds like a combined fuzz/gain pedal to me, especially at the higher gain levels, while the Plexi is at half the level for the same gain and much more brightness, so I agree the Vemuram is probably a better blues-style pedal, but I agree with Chirn70 that the Plexi can do that same dark/fuzzy sound by rolling back the guitar.

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

Golden Plexi is quite "Rock 'n' Roll" a la '80s or even '70s. The Karen can do that too, but it indeed has a more "woman tone" going on as well.

[@keithbohnen9287]

"woman tone"

[@FretFriendGWaL]

3 and a half minutes in and the Tone City Golden Plexi batters the other for me :P

[@e.g.systems6146]

Yep, me too. The Golden Plexi actually sounds like a Plexi, and the Vemuram sounds way too "woolly" to my ears. Mind you, could be the balaclava that I'm wearing... :O)

[@MrWidestripes]

the golden plexi craps all over that other pedal imho #deminishingreturns

[@Berserker26]

Same, the other pedal sounds like the amp is in another room and i'm hearing it through the wall.

[@MrWidestripes]

good description, thats exactly how it sounded

[@TheWiccanGirl]

Also seems to be a lot more tweaking of the more expensive pedal....

[@SlightlyTechnical]

to my ear the expensive one sounded like someone putting a blanket over the speaker cab at least till he turned up the tone control but i would prefer the Plexi it seems more transparent and doesn't colour the character of the guitar too much

[@Chris228]

Cheap Miku vs Expensive Miku?...

[@felipedebarros8451]

Which one is just hiring an actual Japanese singer?

[@snörre23]

is there a copy of the miku ? since the original is not available as far as i know

[@swampmarsh2792]

You can find em on eBay.

[@timwhite5562]

The gain knob on the golden Plexi seems to have no effect at all. I watched him turn it up and down and the sound hardly changed at all. The expensive one is too dark for my taste, others will prefer it. I'm actually most impressed with how the little one stayed together even when he was playing high up past the 12th fret because THAT'S usually where you hear the cheaper pedals start to fall apart and reveal themselves to be pedals. I have to say I disagree with them there is a whole lot difference between them

[@timwhite5562]

So the expensive one is like $400 US? That's absurd. I just cloned an actual Plexi amp for 50% more than this pedal. I own an Ethos Overdrive Preamp pedal that was a little more than This pedal, so I'm not adverse to expensive gear. The Ethos however is an actual 2 channel Preamp, with DI out, mid boost, effects loop and an almost daunting amount of control, and not insignificant is that it's emulating an absurdly expensive amp. a $400 Marshall in a box though?

[@JoshuaLTRyan]

prepare to sell thousands more Golden Plexi's.

[@gdsmith4246]

I'm sold, but they're all out of stock

[@nickcarlin2643]

they shouldn't be out. they just got a shipment of Tone City stuff in on Wednesday

[@cgavin1]

Op success

[@jordandangelo180]

Listen to Tim Pierce demo the Karen and you’ll change your mind on the pedal real quick. He made it sound amazing as it was meant to sound. It’s a great pedal.

[@davidconnelly1793]

Wow! This is a BAD day for the makers of that expensive pedal.

[@st3voguitarist]

I agree ... £300 ... no thanks...Free? No thanks... I prefer the Golden Plexi :)

[@pink73floyd]

Sure is! Any Mark Knopfler fans here?

[@Andrew.G.Junior]

The Golden Plexi might sound good too but I know which one would stop working in less than two years due to quality issues...

[@GillesAndrea]

when 95% of the people talking here can't notice the HUGE tone difference between the 2, yeah the plexi pluged in your Roland cube 10x would be fine x)

[@Padicus]

If you prefer the Plexi you can still buy several replacements for a fraction of the price of the Vemuram

[@m00plank90]

damn, plexi wins for me.

[@Dedonarivl96]

so true

[@hillbill3502]

yep sounds way clearer and you can buy like 9 of them for the price of one Karen.

[@tesla1431]

Matt Chapman it's more aggressive and middle scoope

[@ritchpercival8847]

Wow...I knew the Tone City stuff was good for the price, but this wasn't even close. Golden Plexi sounds like a real amp, the Karen sounds like a pedal.

[@shyamseepersad7599]

Matt Chapman I agree. I like the tone of the plexi more than the karen. sounds more fat and full with better mid and bright bite than mostly dark and smooth karen tones. but I guess it's based on my style of music and playing as well.

[@jogreeen]

Testing pedals like this is a good idea because most of them are essentially the same thing but their prices vary wildly. Testing cheap guitars and amps by price is a little different because there are so many different parameters to compare.

[@Inode01]

You were able to get the tone very close to matching with the dials. You guys made this fun though :) Fight!

[@ludwiggartner4100]

I think, someone should open a golden plexi, and see if the gain knob is even connected to anything.

[@finparkour]

Rofl

[@chrisw5077]

yup the 'gain' circuit really should have been a bit beefier, good tone and volume though....

[@sealevelcain4664]

Ludwig Gärtner haha

[@Malc180s]

All change down at the bottom of the knob - sign of a cheap circuit/pot. Sounds fucking great though.

[@timmyv694]

Ludwig Gärtner it's the same as the pedal it copies. Purple plexi.

[@Gummmibaer]

The Golden Plexi sounds too thin and harsh for my liking. Would be a disaster if i plug in my tele (like it was with a boss ds-1). But I think it works with a Les Paul whereas the Vemuram might be too dark for a Les Paul and fit a tele better.

[@KozmykJ]

My recollection of those old Vintage Marshall's back when they were new, that the Vermuram is supposed to be emulating, is that they were hard, bright and edgy especially up close. You had to work to get subtle tones out of them. The Plexi reminds me more of those than the Vermuram.

[@Gummmibaer]

Yeah, I guess I'm not a fan of Marshall-type overdrive sounds.Wasn't happy with any Marshall tube amp in the guitar store, but when I'm playing at home with my Line 6 HD 500 the plexi emulation is by far my favorite sound of all those amps in there. Finding yourself a nice overdrive sound is a total mystery I guess.

[@Einzatskommando]

Gummmibaer you have to be kidding me...

[@reubensolly2237]

That's what the tone knob is for.

[@midnightmerv3560]

Reuben Solly this, 100% before you buy any pedals or tweak any of the settings on your amp you should really play with the tone and volume controls on your guitar. it'll take a few weeks but over time you'll find different "sweet spots", combinations of volume,tone and pickup. Here's an example: I've got an aria pro ii strat copy thing from the 70's and it's got a brass nut, as a result the thing screams and twangs like no tomorrow,it actually hurts my ears at normal volumes if I have everything on my guitar at 10 because it's so damn twangy. so I roll the tone halfway and the volume to 8ish for rithym playing and then any time I need a little extra or I have to cut through I just turn up the controls on my guitar. you could also set the gain on your amp for just a smidge more than you'd actually use durring rithym playing to account for the fact your rolling it back on the guitar a bit, that way you've got lots left in the tank for when you go to dial it up for lead playing.

[@BUSHWOOKIE18]

Rob I could listen to you play all day long.

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

Multi-Effects cheapest v most expensive.

[@Przepiornr1]

Zoom ♥

[@ryanhadfield8866]

In that case it really would be clear as day what would win. The cheapest wouldn't have nearly as many effects and whatnot to play with. It would be a zoom or digitech or something of the likes up against an Axe FX

[@stevenholt1957]

krulty Boss MS-3 has changed my whole pedal board layout completely.

[@lancenunez8252]

Zoom versus Helix Effects

[@wesleyzimmerman94]

@@ryanhadfield8866 Or a Vox Stomplab if they have one in stock or in the warehouse

[@willch19]

wow $10 worth of electronics vs $10 worth of electronics with a higher price tag. That's all i see as an electronics student.

[@cantstopmike311]

kohit7 aside from the brass casing which has nothing to do with sound yeah.

[@tolkienfan1972]

Most of the cost comes from the design. The box really can make a difference. You need a great ground and strong isolation. That said, I loved the plexi. What value.

[@kostisk8914]

kohit7 try to see the labour tho.

[@JordonBeal]

@@tolkienfan1972 You just said that to an electronics student. Do you have a background in electrical engineering/electronics?

[@dmcnevin]

@@tolkienfan1972. Not $300 difference. Not even $20 difference. Ground is ground and insulation is cheap.

[@alanredversangel]

Love the DFA knob on the golden plexi.

[@futurekarlos5256]

Alan Angel Does Fuck All loooooool

[@joshuahb536]

yay new chappers vid at 2 am!!!

[@iamthealrus6118]

Blindfold overdrive pedal challenge please.

[@Agar4Life]

YES

[@jonathanherrera2320]

Yeah like if they had to guess the pedal based on just hearing while blindfolded. That would be fun.

[@areyouavinalaff]

great idea

[@abramians1]

Love your show guys. Really enjoyed this segment. Great fan of "cheapest vs most expensive!! If I may offer a suggestion. Maybe next time try a "blind test', and see if you can tell the difference between the cheapest and the most expensive. Keep up the great work!!!

[@laney50w]

I certainly didn't notice a $250 difference! The Golden Plexi is a pretty good sounding pedal for the price.

[@alistairmcintosh9129]

should have done it as a blindfold test....

[@dctv7789]

call me crazy, but I much prefer the Golden Plexi. love the brighter tones it can get. Although I do not like how that gain knob reacts. I also agree you guys should do Wah pedals next!!!

[@Littau_Drone_works]

YES, you are going to be so much bigger in a live mix with the tone city :)

[@LedZeppelinHK]

i thoguht the plexi one was the 300 usd one?

[@thehont8648]

I have a Golden Plexi and it's gain knob definitely works throughout the spectrum, so either they had a duff one, or they changed the specs of the pedal since I got mine.

[@SlowhandGreg]

They had the amps set on just break up so your getting amp compression as soon as your pushing the pre section then your part comparing the op amps in the pedals

[@SlowhandGreg]

You need to listen to them with your own guitar / amp, I wouldn't have touched either with the H&K, from the demo the cheap one is well worth considering but there's a lot of questions on how they were running the amps. I've tried and ditched cheap pedals in the past due to hum / ground noise with my gear and O/D can be very picky. I agree the clone pedals are getting better and better but if it doesn't sound right when you get it home it doesn't matter weather it costs 30 or 300 your not going to use it.

[@VictorHugoTargino]

Golden Plexi sounded better to my ears. Great video!

[@DM-kv9kj]

Ha. NO WAY would I spend £320 on that. What a fcking ripoff. I could pretty much buy a Fender Bassbreaker 15w amplifier head for that...

[@michaelthelen7505]

Coming from someone normally opposed to distortion pedals of any kind (gain straight from the amp is the way to go, IMO), that Plexi sounds amazing.

[@fuzzmountain7583]

I thought they both sounded damn good. The Vemuram sure as hell didn't sound 10 times better thats for sure!

[@lostseeker88]

Steve Floyd maybe not better but definitely different.

[@fuzzmountain7583]

Yeah they definitely had a different tone for sure.

[@Jackson0Music]

Why don't you do another guitar mod episode but with Rabea as well and a higher budget!!

[@soejrd24978]

p l e a s e

[@cameronnorman291]

This

[@olafvanrijnsbergen1177]

Jackson0Music they should...

[@sklly3808]

yes

[@Tensen01]

I also think it should be blindfold so they aren't influenced by knowing which is which

[@RenoNuski]

Golden Plexi is worth the $$! Veruram is not worth the$$$! Yes I am a fugal musician! :)

[@eddymcloughlin6651]

RenoNuski I

[@jimithebollix]

*fungal

[@jamesrudolph4151]

frugal?

[@fagyu7502]

The cheap ones gain is bad, so as always I would choose the one that is a bit cheaper than the middle (but I don't have money to buy more than an epiphone lp special 2 and a practice Marshall amp so whos thinking about pedals)

[@justanaverageperson544]

So cheap couldn't afford a r for frugal.

[@majorgiroux]

Thanks for this. I think this shows the law of diminished returns once again. Would like to see analog delay next

[@davidclark3603]

That little cheap golden plexi is amazing! It’s on my list!

[@dpajc056]

Can you do cheapest vs most expensive multi effects professor pedal like zoom vs boss/Roland etc? :)

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

dpajc056 I said the same thing lol

[@Tuba_Travis]

Total hobbyist myself, so I think that would be really interesting

[@JacknCocaine]

I don`t think the Vemuram can cut the mix if you`ra in a band with two guitarplayers. I personally liked the Golden Plexi way more in this video.

[@andrewpappas9311]

(Other Guitars I'd like to See) - Cheapest Fender v. Most Expensive Fender - Cheapest Gretsch v. Most Expensive Gretsch - Cheapest ESP v. Most Expensive ESP - Cheapest Schecter v. Most Expensive Schecter - Cheapest Ibanez v. Most Expensive Ibanez Cheapest Jackson v. Most Expensive Jackson

[@andrewpappas9311]

Also I love the Les Paul that Rob has, I have the exact same one (Gibson Les Paul Goldtop 1950s Reissue)

[@gdsmith4246]

I wouldn't do cheap*est vs dear*est, because that limits your choices. I'd do cheap vs expensive in the same category/brand.

[@andrewpappas9311]

+Gary Smith Isn't that what I suggested...? But anyway I think I understand what you meant

[@willmfield3542]

+Andrew Pappas pretty sure its a les paul classic t from the gibson 2017 range

[@josephtiano1545]

Fucking brilliant playing on this one Chappers.

[@mrc2662]

Joseph Tiano well said man. Chapters knocked it out the park. Sensational.

[@TomFifoot]

Most expensive squier strat v cheapest fender strat?

[@jamesrudolph4151]

they've done it. search and you will find.

[@walterdewald267]

The video, but not 2 strats (Squier Tele/Fender Tele): kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXzFiHiYpNytl9U

[@MalcolmPowder]

Cheap vs most Expensive tuning pedal

[@vsriotact]

...cheap apps available on phones...

[@simonthecucumberenjoyer1042]

VS Riotact There are even free ones that do a great job. But you need silence for them working good.

[@stuartbegley2085]

Malcolm Powder the cheapest tuner I have is my ears, or the adjacent string. Not the best I have to admit, lol

[@stuartbegley2085]

Tone city for the brightness I reckon.

[@akashsahakundu9488]

Malcolm Powder vs Ears

[@Deathshuck]

I love these videos because they help you avoid a lot of crap. I don't think there's any doubt that the Plexi is miles better, and while you can argue Vemuram might be more suitable to certain situations, with Plexi you're still looking at a pedal that is 270£ cheaper and sounds way clearer. So unless money grows in trees for you, there's literally no reason to get Vemuram over the Plexi, when the quality is so good. And honestly, a case made out of brass? Who gives a fuck. That's how they always get you, just like with guitars, they have gold knobs and diamonds in the fretboard, and while the quality is still good, does the useless extra shit you get justify the cost? Fuck no. Plexi all the way.

[@JeremyRayWilliams11]

Gotta go with the Golden Plexi. Seems to have more Balls.

[@jugger5877]

That is amazing.... The Golden Plexi blew the Vemuram to bits! No contest!

[@abdullahzayed9646]

The captain tried so hard to save vemurum's face, but the golden plexy just blew it out of the water. I feel sorry for him. 😂😂

[@mrjimmcdaniels]

Tone City hands down.

[@mcFreaki]

at around 5:45 there's one change where i hear literally zero difference. plexi wins just because of that.

[@XanderYTV]

I heard a little bit of a tighter mid range bite on the golden plexi when it changed. definitely a win.

[@benbutterworth7584]

The Vemuram seems to have the power amp type break up going on - but for £280 more, nah. Buy an Angry Charlie!

[@TaylorzVersionz]

there's such a specific amp like break up that comes from higher end drives. its pure joy

[@wood-lee1832]

Can't get enough of tone city at the moment, hats off to them!

[@olivaguitars4926]

I just saw the manual of Karen, There's screw on the side, which is called Gain trimmer, you should manipulate to get more gain boost

[@enkiea8322]

They purposefully under biased it to sound "muffled" in comparison to the Golden Plexi. This whole thing was made to sell Golden Plexi's.

[@distortingjack]

@@enkiea8322 Gain doesn't muffle anything - that's down to the internal structure of the distortion and the tone control. Even at low gain distortion the Plexi sounds way clearer. I actually like the sound of the Karen for some Queens of the Stone Age type stuff, but it's definitely not what I'd choose for a basic Marshall tone.

[@No1WillMakeItOutAlive]

Vemuran seems good for muted notes, but I think I prefer the brighter aggressive sound from the plexi

[@AlexPriceMusician]

Wow. I really want to try and like the Vemuram but that was just sad. The Tone City blew it away. Is it me or are the functions of the top right and bottom knobs not even noticeable on the Vemuram??

[@psilocypher]

Alex Price I don't about the Vemuram, but the gain knob on the plexi seemed to not do much at all. Though I do believe the plexi wins by a long shot.

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Yeah totally agree the tone of the golden plexi has everything treble mid and just the right anount of low end the other pedal was just missing some tone very very muddy I dont mind a little muddy but not like that the golden plexi is just an amazing pedal one of the best sounding pedals out and for the price how can you lose zi really really like it but all of tone city pedals are amazing

[@deuliciousmafuka3604]

Your right it doesnt seem to matter what the captain does its muddy

[@tamidon40]

Always nice when Rob dresses up for the challenges.

[@andydunn5673]

You guys are worth your wait in gold

[@keithboddy]

Hi Rob... Love the vids... Please FINISH YOUR WEBSITE so I can drool over all the new lovelies.

[@keithboddy]

This site is up!!! Thanks man!!!

[@TomPark1986]

Golden plexi sounds fucking great!

[@bengriffinguitar]

Straight away the Plexi sounded better personally. Has more mid-range and a better 'lead' tone, plus it's a fecking steal for the price :D

[@kencohagen4967]

Sure am glad I bought the Golden Plexi! If there's too much high end you can dial that down on the amp, but you can't get rid of the muddy sound of the Vemuram!

[@MrHollywood611]

The Tone City overdrive is more suitable for the genre of music I play. However, I really like the Vemuram because it gets an earsplitting amp volume sort of drive to it, which I really like by the way.

[@Johnboysmudge]

Bloody hell! That Golden Plexi was considerably better!

[@danabnormal5892]

Bad horse vs one of those overpriced klon yokes please please please

[@jeffjordan3875]

Seems like the Golden Plexi is more AC/DC and the Karen is more ZZ Top

[@jeffjordan3875]

I like em both

[@Geomlord]

that plexi plus the victory sounds so sweet

[@junomartini-zeller614]

I like the Plexi the most, surprisingly enough. I felt the Plexi's tones, especially through the H&K, were a lot clearer and sharper. Might have to get a Plexi sometime.

[@mattdayne2585]

Tone city has great heavy distortion. For some reason, I preferred the Vemuram Karen better, more crunchy midrange low-end sound to it, like a worn in tubed amp. Vemuram kinda a Klon feel to it. But still for the price, I couldn't justify buying it for that much.

[@digiscream]

It's an odd one this; the Vemuram has more range in the controls and the Tone City is a one-trick pony with a single sound. However, the Vemuram is incredibly limited in how you can use it, whereas the Tone City is going to be useful in a lot more genres and contexts. Also...I don't like how the Vemuram sounds, and I love how the Tone City sounds...ergo, Tone City win.

[@sid35gb]

The golden plexi can be used as a boost because the volume is really powerful.

[@Neogeofanatic]

the golden plexi is so so so SO better.

[@Quicksilver_Cookie]

It's fantastic that actual person who owns a business of selling said products isn't shy of doing these cheap vs expensive tests. And in some cases it's quite clear that price only reflects manufacturer's marketing, not direct increase in sound quality.

[@JeffStarr]

Please do the Wah video! I'd like to see a comparison between an amp being recorded with a affordable microphone vs an expensive one.

[@danlopez2012]

Sorry Capt. Golden Plexi had way more to go... Way more

[@danlopez2012]

sorry, thats what I meant... more volume...

[@kiasalmand4509]

Why don't you do Most expensive guitar with most cheapest amp V Most expensive amp with most cheapest guitar

[@darth_vyper]

Kias Almand they already did that my friend

[@mikewarriorr]

Already done :)

[@wupme]

Only something really close, but not exactly that. They made one getting a better amp and a cheaper guitar and vice versa. But not in the boutique range shit.

[@elvis_chen]

Search before asking!

[@cameroncrowley1226]

Gibson Aged True Historic 1959 Les Paul through a Fender Frontman 10G \m/ Epiphone Les Paul Express through a PRS J-MOD100 Head John Mayer Signature Amp Head \m/

[@gustavmetal6207]

Do the cheapest guitar head vs the expensive

[@Littau_Drone_works]

hmmmm, then one with solid state and one with tubes, And it has to go into a marshall 4 by 12 :)

[@oleauby7583]

Daniel Littau great idea

[@oily4545]

Daniel Littau they already did a Solid State vs Modelling vs Tube test I believe

[@Littau_Drone_works]

Oily yeah. but they have not tried the cheapest and the most expensive of them :)

[@gustavmetal6207]

The cab must by the same than you haar the diffrents

[@stevendegoodmojosmet4034]

Both work .. I like the expencive one best, but the plexi is badass too.

[@diminishedseventh]

I really appreciate you guys making all the content you do. As far as I can tell it always seems like you try to be honest, as opposed to just jocking the thing with the best margin. Sorry I don't really buy stuff from you. I'm in the U.S. and with customs fees and the wall, it's just not entirely feasable.

[@kennethcbailey27]

Do cheap cables vs expensive, blind test.

[@oleauby7583]

Kenneth Bailey what's the difference actually??

[@birkett26]

Nothing to do with sound and tone, just build quality. The expensive cables are advertised to last a bit better on the road.

[@kennethcbailey27]

Many people claim they hear a big difference with the super high end cables. I've never bothered to try and just use the average stuff myself, but I figured it would make for a decent vid

[@swagnostic132]

Kenneth Bailey it depends on the shielding and how they handle some freqs. tbh, it's most notable with either long vs short lengths and patch cables. since you'd have more patch cables (theoretically), there's more of a chance for a less amazing cable to cause and build up noises.

[@joebruley4117]

I've blind A/B'd it and I have to say that more expensive cables (think $30-60ish depending on length) do send a clearer signal than cheaper cables. If you spend more than $60 on a cable (like 30ft) now you've gotten drank the kool aid. I guess you could say I am a fan of quality cables, not expensive ones. Some really great guitarists have opted for cheaper cables (or longer cables, like coil cables) because it snips some of the high frequencies. Also, the more expensive cables have a better build quality which in the long run makes them cheaper if you gig regularly. Plus, many companies give you a lifetime warranty. So as with many guitar tones, use your ear and decide what you like best. Cables don't do much from an audience's perspective, but the player will notice it.

[@Guitar_Fella]

Well I for one cannot hear £280 worth of difference between the two pedals. For the dearer pedal, you should be able to hear quite a lot of tonal richness, dynamics and general harmonic loveliness, but I certainly couldn't!

[@alexandre5882]

i would choose the Golden Plexi in a heartbeat ,sounds better and costs less.The vemuram sound like shit.

[@orlock20]

Especially if one is using it as a clean boost.

[@landonbailey]

love it when Lee says "challenge" haha

[@RandyFricke]

Here's a rather revealing experience I had recently. I purchased a BluGuitar Amp1 because I'm building a pedalboard with onboard amp. My current rig has the TC Golden Plexi as the source crunch. My $49 Golden Plexi bumped my $162 Carl Martin Plexitone off of my board, and I have also returned the BluGuitar Amp1. The Bulg unit is well built for sure, but I'm an old school gut. Give me one clean tone and one crunch tone. The Tone City pedals provide this for me nicely. So how do you like that. A $49 pedal knocks an $800 pedal off of my board.

[@650thunderbird]

Schrödinger's pedal

[@AntonioRockGP]

yah, the expensive one is way overpriced! But I can ear a high frequency fizz on the Super Plexi that I absolutely hate on dist pedals. The boss Metal zone is the king of that awful fizz

[@MontyManX3]

1:13 someone is playing cliffs of dover in the background. Hha

[@CrankCase08]

The reason for the uneven response on the gain control of the Plexi is that they've likely installed a linear pot where there should be a log pot. Other than that, distortion is merely caused by the overloading of one stage by another, which is a very simple principle. This is why the early Tonebenders, with their simple transistor designs, worked so well. Mega-expensive effect pedals are produced because there's a market for them with guitarists who have more money than intelligence.

[@Messier31NGC224]

Mate that Tone City Golden Plexi is the one for me, it just sounds killer!

[@gameofmaddness]

I prefer the golden plexi. Has a clearer tone and more able to hear notes. the expensive one to me actually sounds more muddy. The expensive one sounds too compressed too

[@mod3l]

to everyone saying that the golden plexi beats the vermuraam (especially considering the price), here's my 2 cents: from the perspective from someone who deals with audio every day (editing, mixing, recording, sound design...), the golden plexi sounds horrible. and as captain said, the difference is MASSIVE. lemme elaborate why...the golden plexi has a very distinct solid state sound to it. it's not dynamic at all. all it does is adds fizz to your sound no matter what register you're playing in. this means it's always adding the same upper harmonics to your riffs, when you're playing high or low. when you're setting your sound to a mix in a band, that will always add noise in upper frequencies that is often unwanted and makes you noisy and the sound starts to fight other sounds like cymbals and drum and bass transients. what vermuram does is that it responds dynamically and adds harmonics to the tones you are producing via your instrument. its organic and creamy and adds a bit of hair to your sound. let me remind you all that a guitar is a middle instrument not a high or a bass one. that is a FACT that most of the bedroom players tend to miss or not notice at all. to mention one more fact: the clean sound is very dark and dull to begin with. you can't buy a pedal that will make a sound like that just better. the golden plexi is trying to fake that. it's trying to make a somewhat dark sound more present and (let's say) better. the vermuram is designed to push a slightly overdriven amp a bit more and retain that exact same sound you dialed in. that being said, none of these are made to make anything sound better. the vermuram changes the dynamic response a bit and adds a bit of overdrive, when the golden plexi just adds fizz. THAT being said, the vermuram can be used in a lot of different applications production wise. you can overdrive drum or bass sounds when mixing, add a bit of hair to your synths and maybe even vocals!. i just can't see the golden plexi doing any of these things. when looking at the vermuram i immediately think of strymon deco or jhs crayon. they are both expensive AF but have limitless potential when making sounds with them. the cheap distortion pedals don't do that. but they are great for playing at home, making a budget gear a bit more present. to finalise: the golden plexi isn't a bad pedal at all. especially for the price. so i advise ppl to try them and buy them if they like it. the more expensive drives are just more specialised kind of tools that you normally don't put on your pedalboard. peace out!

[@RahulBasu6886]

Gipsy from the Future Great point about the base tone, which was rather muddy imho

[@kazamadhouniez2831]

Don't mess with G-Plex.. #teamgplex

[@victorramsey5575]

That Golden Plexi is the ass slapper for sure man! And there's a few quid left over for a backup Squier. Nice.

[@franascul]

That Fidel joke cracked me up. Thank you Captain.

[@stephanbijl8628]

Tone City- high gain, shrill and harsh Vemuran- beefy and muddy In a live situation the golden plexi won't be nice in my opinion. With the vemuran the girls will go: 14:49

[@HarveyCastletineJackson]

Cheapest strings vs Expensive strings on the same guitar?

[@joesatchton212]

Respect to all the Vemuram endorsees, including tone-masters Pete Thorn and Tim Pierce, but like most other folks here, I too just don't feel it justifies a nearly 10X price differential over the Tone City Plexi. Of course, hard to say conclusively via youtube vid audio, but even so, the GPlexi here sounded just so much brighter and more aggressive, two characteristics I enjoy in Plexi-style pedals. Although yes, that awful 6-9 o'clock gain range is laughable. Strymon pedals however are among those that really do justify their price - sorry Vemuram.

[@deuliciousmafuka3604]

Strymon is the best pedals ever made.

[@KarstenJohansson]

At around 5:41 onward for a while the tones were finally set approximately equal which makes it easier to see which one is better. When the tones are equal... neither. I wish the entire test was done keeping the tones within similar EQ ranges so we could find out if there really is a $281 reason to buy the Vemuram.

[@mikeg2939]

Spot on Chappers, the more ££ you ask for something the higher peoples expectations. If it was marketed at £80 it would have joined the legions of £80 drive pedals and gone unnoticed. It did sound smoother than the plexi though. Yes do the wah pedals.

[@razorgem555to666]

ibanez blind test video please

[@JamesShore1990]

320 for a pedal on which the pots aren't even labeled? No thank you.

[@eduardoantonini]

JamesShore1990 I would much rather labeled pots as well, but I guess the rationale behind it is that the unlabeled ones contribute to a more premium, expensive look

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

A lot of "boutique" type pedals are very vague about it, because the corksniffing designers behind them probably think it looks "cheap" with labels on them.

[@justindecarlo9258]

JamesShore1990 and the knobs seem to have been stolen off some Jazz bass.

[@npinero1]

JamesShore1990, "if you have to ask what the knobs do, you can't afford it." ;-)

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

Those are the tweak, change and alter knobs.

[@jake2355]

As soon as you crank the amp’s volume to a giggable level, the Karen cleans up and blows the Plexi out the water. The Golden Plexi only sounds ‘clearer’ because it has literally ZERO low end. Turn up the volume and it’s just glassy and unusable. Don’t get me wrong... in your bedroom, you are better off with the Golden Plexi. But you simply cannot gig with it. That’s why they’re cheap. Pretty much all high-end pedals sound shite below gigging volumes. They aren’t made for bedroom use, they’re made to be played at the very peak of their headroom. At low volumes, they sound muddy... just like high end amps do.

[@mieszanesztuki]

I call bullshit, its a pedal, and its suppoused to do it's job at any stage of push of the power section.

[@jake2355]

Yeah yeah bullshit😂 not all overdrives have the same ‘job’ you know...Have you ever even played a Vemuram? Clearly not or you would agree with everything I’ve said. Anyone who has cranked an amp while using one of their pedals knows just how good they are. As soon as you turn up the amps volume, that muddiness you hear in the video completely disappears!

[@jake2355]

This is not me saying their pedals are worth the money... because they aren’t. The Plexi represents better value for ££. I mean, it’s 40 quid for fucksake! But the Karen is a much better pedal for higher volumes. The Plexi is a ‘bedroom pedal’

[@indoshakermaker]

I don't know man. Everytime I gig, I get my sounds to my liking, then the sound guys can just mic that, and amplify it to a 'giggable' volume, keeping the same tones.

[@MrTikne]

Just admit it, you have an expensive pedal...

[@sid35gb]

Watching in 2019 I own a golden plexi the issue with the gain knob has been corrected because it definitely does now function through the sweep.

[@daviddemar8749]

To my ears the more expensive pedal was a little smoother but worth the extra expense for non-pro hobbyists?....NOPE I thought the Plexi was just fine for what it was. Btw guys I just love your comparison videos. I watch them often even when I am not shopping around or in need of buying anything. God bless you, you are performing an important public service and your videos are also just a lot of fun to watch.