Experimental Two-Tender Schools Class | Building The Ultimate Hornby Steam Loco

My latest experiment - how much power can a Hornby Schools class have?!
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Contents:
0:00 Introduction
2:21 Unboxing
3:35 Unmodded Testing
6:24 Building the Monster
11:43 Testing the Monster
14:24 Pulling Power Test

[@pirozcontractor6006]

Next: The Heljan Beyer Garrat with as many tenders as possible!

[@SamsTrains]

haha I've never thought of that - but yes, the Garratt must be a tank engine! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@cheyvengeance5432]

The garratt has got a tender in fact if you think about it it has 2 one each end one for coal one for water

[@emilioi.valdez6680]

Actually the Garratt may have powered tenders since driving wheels are under the fuel storage on the engine. If you have seen photos of the Erie Triplex locomotive, you'll know what I mean.

[@cheyvengeance5432]

Emilio I. Valdez yeh I get what you mean just whoever has the point of saying that the garratt doesn’t have a tender is wrong as such

[@emilioi.valdez6680]

@@cheyvengeance5432 Alright then.

[@TheVehicleFan]

2018: train underwater 2019: world's strongest train 2020: steampunk and this 2022: train with guns 2055: ultra transformer 2,0000: ultra train shooter punk strong ultimate power underwater train

[@John73John]

He's already done a couple of trains with army tanks on them, does that count?

[@SamsTrains]

Yep, that's basically the plan! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@ikriestiana]

lol :)

[@sonictailsx4690]

"It's alive, it's alive, IT'S ALIVE!" "HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" >=D

[@calebmatchitt3853]

I like ya foment g *u scream*

[@SamsTrains]

haha!! It did feel like that! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@JayseHeiney2000]

i like the idea of a Two Tender Flying Scotsman, but a Two Tender SCHOOLS CLASS? ... now THAT Is something i wanna see IRL, excellent job on the build -Jayse

[@SamsTrains]

haha me too actually - maybe some day?! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@Andrew7923]

Our man Sam just reinvented articulated locomotives.

[@SamsTrains]

haha!! I'm sure I did! xD

[@jordanorriss4784]

@@SamsTrains Sorry Sam, it's just a stupid idea : / Good idea on paper maybe but not a good idea at all.. it's something I did when I was much younger. Good attempt but still a nice video, hope you're staying safe :)

[@asdatrollys8944]

You’ve heard of the bendy bus now get ready for the bendy steam loco

[@NikkiTheOtter]

More like he invented a Tender-Slug. Which is something I've never seen before.

[@gamingwithlukeJToH]

Union Pacific has nothing on this guy!

[@nameless5413]

i am more and more fond of these strange experimental builds. It feels like if dr. Frankenstein was a model train enthusiast rather than physician (possibly mortician).

[@SamsTrains]

Thank you! haha absolutely - I'm sure he was! ;D

[@lollington6113]

0:53 does that mean the cow is a loco

[@SamsTrains]

Yes. Yes it does! ;D

[@carrotheadohmygod]

Sorry, did you say bullman? YES OF COURSE!

[@JDT153]

bullman now carrys 9 tenders and he is going to be racing on the sams trains circuit

[@BR45723]

TheBananaVanMan Jordan Y E S

[@mikepatnope1446]

*confused nosies*THE WHAT YOU SAY

[@ks_56]

having is schools with double tendes is odd, but a schools with an early and late crest? thats crazy

[@SamsTrains]

haha I know - best of both worlds! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@jamesgilbart2672]

Great project! It would be interesting to try fitting separate DCC decoders to the loco and tender motors and adjust them so the speeds match better.

[@iceeblueburst03]

Nice experiment of adding two tenders to the Schools Class locomotive! I’m getting some Flying Scotsman vibes from seeing this! You should keep it like this since this is your most powerful locomotive in your collection, and you mentioned that it bears the Garratt locomotive too! Hopefully you can use this in your videos more often! 😃👍

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much mate - haha yeah everyone's been saying that, lol! ;D I think I will keep it like this, for sure! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@firestarspelt]

@@SamsTrains put 2 dcc decoders in it and use the speed tables to speed match them

[@adamchmielewski6162]

This to the flying Scotsman: “You and I are not so different”

[@SamsTrains]

haha!! ;D

[@fergoossens6495]

These random and weird experiments and things are the reason why i specificly like youre channel so much. Keep it going Sam and you have that 100k in no time

[@SamsTrains]

haha thanks so much, that's really kind of you! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@patrickwebb7311]

Before getting to the test: Oooooh this' going to be interesting. I love double tender locos. After: Wow, that's impressive, if only you could make the tender motor and engine motor sync up more. Regardless, that was a fun experiment Sam.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot mate! Yeah that's the next job - I'm sure I'll manage it! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@ianbennett6285]

Sam'sTrains fit a couple of decoders and speed match the motors

[@sturmtigerking4263]

"Not destroying it lets say butchering it" isn't that a similar thing. Great different video. That US loco I'm fixing up is going well although it needs a new motor

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah it's a similar thing, lol! Ahh good luck with your project! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@peterdriffill7950]

Right on time - another one of these type of videos was well needed!! - would be good to see a comparative review between the two to see what’s changed over the years! + I’d love to see the VItrains 37 re-reviewed! :)

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Peter, I like both of those ideas - I'll have to look into those! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@ecpcharles]

Some tips for your next super power project: you need to put heavier coaches at the front of the train and lighter cars in the back. The drawbar height between tenders and engines should be mounted at the same height as the couplers between the coaches. You should put an ammeter on the rails to see how much current its drawing! when you tested the tender by itself, you removed the shell, which wouldve weighted down the tender more for a more accurate reading. You should put the pickup tender in between the two powered units so the wiring would be a bit simpler. Also there would be a buffer between the two motors, making the unsmooth running a tad smoother. Cool project! Id like to see 3 9Fs chained together...

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks for the tips, good point on the coaches! I used the same drawbar fittings as original, so the heights should have been the same! Current draw would be interesting to measure! The wiring is pretty simple for any formation - each unit had both wires commoned together, so I could couple them in any order. 3 9Fs would be epic - I'd love that! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@imatrainperson1195]

Looks like Flying Scotsman is going to have some competition

[@SamsTrains]

Exactly!! :D

[@Daman2287]

@@SamsTrains is it possible to do this with the Flying Scotsman?

[@adamchmielewski6162]

@@SamsTrains the flying Scotsman with 4 tenders lol

[@iceeblueburst03]

Could this possibly be The Flying Scotsman’ lost cousin? 😳

[@SamsTrains]

haha maybe!! We'll have to introduce them! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@louisbuscarino7330]

Sam you never seem to amaze me with your videos they are always so great. That is why your videos are my favorite. I can never wait till the next one to come on . Keep them coming.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much Louis - that's very kind of you, thanks so much for supporting the vids! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Nate_NCP]

Love your videos! Keep up the great work!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much!! :D

[@iceeblueburst03]

13:41 Is it just me or is the middle tender wheel missing?

[@hoagy_ytfc]

Viviane von Scharnhorst only the outer ones are driven by the motor, presumably?

[@SamsTrains]

It is! Only the outer wheels are driven, and the middle ones no longer fit after the CD motor conversion! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@thomasawl]

Sam, I thought you were drunk.

[@SamsTrains]

haha, life is my alcohol! ;D

[@vodka2432]

I’ve seen what people are like when they are drunk, and it’s much crazier than this lol!

[@michaelschultz5127]

Nah, just crazy.

[@jpsholland]

16:30 this is why those long American freight trains have mid-train DPU's and rear DPU's. (DPU = Distributed Power Unit, which are just normal locomotives listening on remote control to the leading unit with the engineer) Real trains do the same thing when they are to long or to heavy and would be pulled by only locomotives in the lead. But this also depend on how tight curves are. In some routes it is not needed.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes indeed! This definitely shows the need for something like that, lol! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@CaptainScruff83]

Do enjoy your experiments. I tried something similar with two worn out class 47s made into one power unit, worked great but seemed to derail in one direction. Keep up the good work mate. 👍

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much! I've often wondered about that - interesting about the derailing, did you ever find out why?! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@CaptainScruff83]

@@SamsTrains it was a similar problem to your Dapol class 73 you reviewed a few months back, where I'd modified the unpowered end there was insufficient clearance between the new powered bogie and the frame. Just took a bit of fettling and a spacer. I suppose I could always write "heljan" underneath it! 😂😂😂😂 cheers mate

[@carrotheadohmygod]

Flying Schoolsman, will appear in Thomas and friends season 25 for the “exciting” new great race 2 electric boogaloo.

[@SamsTrains]

haha!! Fingers crossed! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@OlivierGabin]

You remind me a question I had asked me recently for one of my sci-fi novels projects : how to run trains on the Moon ? The problem is the adhesive weight of the locomotive, which is 1/6th of what it is on Earth. Solution : less axles and more locomotive mass. Anyway, I really like your experimental videos, especially when I see you tinkering with the hardware. Next : can the Heljan Tango run on 240 V AC ? Featuring the fire brigade of your city, I presume...

[@SamsTrains]

That's an interesting thought! I'd probably opt for a roller-coaster type arrangement, it'd be safer! You'd have to be quite inventive with propulsion and switching tracks though! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@thomasmcelroy3637]

that was a lot of fun mate. yeah i like it. well done cheers tom

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much Tom! :D

[@LHoriginal]

Cool! I love these experiment videos, I also love schools class locos, I love this video by default. Great video Sam'have a nace evening.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much! I love the Schools too - they're great!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@LHoriginal]

@@SamsTrains no problem mate, they are absolutely brilliant!

[@TKS60163]

the thumbnail text is amazingly accurate to what time of year it is.Also I cant wait for the Halloween video you have planed this year! Keep up the good work and stay safe! -TKS

[@SamsTrains]

haha I thought so too! Hope you enjoy Halloween! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@TKS60163]

@@SamsTrains thanks I hpe you enjoy Halloween too

[@cameronmcilroy6488]

That's pretty cool. Wasn't expecting it to work as well as it did. Didn't even know you could do that as well

[@SamsTrains]

Thank you!! Yeah it was a fun learning curve! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@lukecarruthers]

Hi Sam, this did look like fun, building your Monster Schools Class :-) thanks. I believe that under BR (so like your 2 models) a couple of the Schools class were briefly paired with the bogie tenders from withdrawn Lord Nelson's!! Maybe something to try in a future video if you have an LN in the right livery?...

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Luke, I really enjoyed doing it actually! That's very interesting - I could totally do that! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@liamcalder1385]

YAY experiment time. Wow I dont know what to say. its ummmm? different. First train underwater then speedy pete now this what next. Great job!

[@SamsTrains]

haha thank you! It was a bit different for sure - watch this space, more experiments coming soon! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@nh5972]

The amazing content just keeps coming, great video Sam, keep it up 😁

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much mate, I'll try! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@nh5972]

Sam'sTrains no problem at all mate 👍 - Nathan

[@theangelsmodellingandrailways]

Funny, and one of your best experiments and successful too. It is truly a monster loco.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much! It is right?!? !:D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@pedalcarguy]

Fantastic! What a Behemoth! 😁👍

[@SamsTrains]

haha thank you!! :D

[@colwichjunction3366]

Lovin the music! 👍😃elevatortastic!!!!

[@SamsTrains]

haha thank you!! xD

[@paulmishler402]

There were actual steam locomotives with steam engines under the tender back a long time ago, for example the triplexes and some of the indiana harbour belt 0-8-0's, there were a few others too, but the never really worked too well.

[@SamsTrains]

Very cool Paul, thanks for sharing this!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@jamesdunloptrains]

Very interesting video today Sam love the new locomotives lol

[@SamsTrains]

haha thanks James! :D

[@warrensmall670]

This was awesome. You should reveiw the engine to the old tender driving one. You could have a diesel push it around. Or even better, you could have another tender driven locos tender push it around. An LNER corridor tender would be funny. Just an idea. Great video as always!

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah I probably could do actually - there must be something I could do with it! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@TheGWR0-4-0]

This is great, it really is very strong! The jerkyness of it without a load I found hilarious

[@SamsTrains]

Thank you! haha me too! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@brianmicky7596]

Hi Sam, Gobsmacked, Great bit of fun , going to have a go myself, All the Best Brian 🤗

[@SamsTrains]

haha thanks Brian - it was great fun to make! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@TheTWRModeller]

Gosh! What a modern 4-4-0 tender locomotive! You should repaint it into a different livery after some modifications to the loco and tender bodies and pass it off as the 8P 4-4-0.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah they were pretty modern actually! A repaint would be epic too actually! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@robertlucido3686]

A lot of steam locomotives that pull excursion trains here in America have a second tender for holding extra water for the engine called an auxiliary water tender, in fact one of my excursion trains that I costom painted, one of the cars on it is a tank car I made as the engine's auxiliary water tender

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah I've seen that quite a lot - it's pretty unusual in the UK though! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@markhummerstone8692]

Love these Franken-Vids!! Just FYI, there is a way to electronically sync the motors....if thats a 'thing' you're interested in. I had an RC Lancaster that automatically synced all four motors/speed controllers to the one throttle.....food for thought....

[@SamsTrains]

haha thank you! That's very interesting - does that work even if they're vastly different motors?? Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@ghostlygunner43]

Great video as usual Sam, the older schools class and packaging looked mint I would love to know how much it was? Keep well 🙂

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot JJ! It was unusually cheap - less than £50! I therefore suspect the owner may have known about the motor issues. Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@lapiswake6583]

An interesting concept. I need a railroad schools class loco to modify into a streamlined schools at some point. You need a hornby 60, see if that has a similar haulage capability; mine hauled 120 short wheelbase wagons as though they weren't there.

[@SamsTrains]

Oh wow I'd love to see that done! Wow - the 60 sounds like a real beast! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@bluebellsfan8704]

That looks Amazing! Nice work

[@SamsTrains]

haha thank you! :D

[@ciaranburke3243]

Cool sam, do love your experiments 👌

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks mate! :D

[@neza6268]

0:36 them horses back in the days pulling wagon on rails: sad noise

[@tophat8742]

Two tender engine The Flying Scotsman: “Confused Screaming”

[@klbird]

Nice concept but getting that coal from the rear tender to the loco would be a fireman's problem. 40 years ago I assembled two Kitmaster Evening star loco kits into a 2 10-10 -0 monster. It really looked wicked.

[@SamsTrains]

haha that's very true - each shovel-full of coal would involve a dangerous journey! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Olivers-trains]

NICE video Thanks for the content

[@SamsTrains]

No problem mate!! :D

[@MrZenwise]

Love your experiments! I think if it pulls something, it's a loco! Doesn't need wheels :)

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks mate - yeah I think so too! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

Ah man, those coaches tipping over on the bend brings back memories. Those really light MK2 coaches are always doing that. Part of the reason why I'm glad about those Genesis coaches.

[@SamsTrains]

haha I know - that's happened many many times in my past too! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@fastoutnotforkids7192]

Now you just have to get the big boy locomotive and see how it pulls vs this monster! Also i can't wait to see if you do a Halloween train video this year. I honestly don't know what a good Halloween train would be. Lol because a lot of people say its the steam and the others say diesel or BOTH! XD as all ways love the video and hope your safe in 2020. XD

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah!! I'd love to know what those are capable of! Hope you enjoy this year's halloween gubbins! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@settershealthcentrebowenth9117]

Congratulations Sam this was awesome

[@SamsTrains]

Thank you!! :D

[@tarleton8874]

Hi Sam - great video as usual. Your introduction of the loco reminded me of old school Top Gear! Do you have any plans to build a proper model railway layout at some point? The construction process would make for an excellent new long-term series!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much! I may do one day - it would be fun! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@sharongylling7354]

Great video Sam!!!

[@SamsTrains]

Thank you! :D

[@CrystalLakeRailway]

This is a cool looking loco!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much mate!! :D

[@rich81090]

In all seriousness this is something I have considered to help with the inclines on my layout, put a decoder in the tender. effectively the tender is its own engine and you would be double heading with power in tender and engine with two decoders.

[@SamsTrains]

haha yeah - if they were properly speed matched, I could honestly recommend doing this!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@VitalOpinion]

This looks so cool

[@fredsrails7501]

Good title for the video I was hooked from the start

[@SamsTrains]

Thank you!! Glad you liked the idea! :D

[@michaelschultz5127]

He's just a little late, he made a new class, " monster school class" people will love it cheers mate

[@alantoms3263]

Good effort and interesting. I was curious - had to work on my 30915 Brighton recently - replaced the single axle, loco-powered tyres - difference quite obvious and pulling power substantial.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Alan - sounds like a nice little mod there too! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@alantoms3263]

@@SamsTrains Thanks Sam. In my case, it was no mod, just replacing the tyres. Made a big difference and good practice. This little real-life powerhouse needs the tyres to be 'prototypical' despite the metal body unfortunately - I've tried 'all-steel' before and it was just so sensitive to everything I decided to return to original.

[@jameslagare2779]

You should convert that second tender as an auxiliary water tender to give it a more realistic vibe.

[@SamsTrains]

True! You literally could mod it to look that way couldn't you?! :O Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@2010ditta]

Genius Sam...nice one .all the best.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much Tim!! :D

[@bow-tiedengineer4453]

because of the way friction works, engines actually provide less tractive effort when their wheels are slipping, because friction actually is lower between two surfaces that are moving relative to each other.

[@robinbrowne5419]

Sam: "There's a funny noise coming from there." I suspect Dr. Frankenstein probably said the same thing :-)

[@Marcus-yn7wc]

I don’t know why watching Sam fixing his train is a very good feeling

[@SamsTrains]

Glad to hear that mate!! :D

[@MrBnsftrain]

This reminds me of how the real General Motors FT was sold. Although it is basically four diesel locomotives with drawbars connecting each of them, General Motors originally sold the quartet as one locomotive. Later models such as the F3 weren't in fixed configurations so each part could be considered a separate locomotive

[@SamsTrains]

Wow really?! So there was something similar in real life? These things never cease to amaze! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@ianhartley395]

Whimsy for the win! Don’t let any naysayers derail your entertaining experiments Sam! Thanks again!

[@SamsTrains]

haha thank you - they never will - I just wanted to publicly say that their objections were firmly ignored! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@ianhartley395]

Sam'sTrains haha yes. Excellent plan.

[@bindonrail46]

Reminds me of our experiments back in the 80's after the Airfix class 31 set a record of 99 coaches, everytime we tried the same on the club layout all the coaches would just 'string line' on the curves and we would have to spend ages putting them all back on the track. What you really need are some coach chassis loaded up with weight instead...

[@SamsTrains]

Very cool!! I've spent many an hour doing similar myself! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@iceeblueburst03]

1:52 Nice Sam’sTrains TV you have right there! :P

[@SamsTrains]

Thank you! :D

[@reliantrailways]

I might get a Hornby railroad scools class! It's what I'm looking for to buy next, cheap small-ish tender engine in a br livery with a good mechanism

[@SamsTrains]

They are decent locos, the Railroad ones at least! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@vovalikuha5291]

Henry: how many tenders do I need? Duck: 6.

[@danielwalker2613]

What a beast !! ... Maybe buy a spare tender shell so the liveries match if you intend on keeping this connected ? ... Well done you.

[@SodorBrony]

Huh. For once, traction tires were the key. Hard to believe, given how you aimed to purge the traction tires. Very nice, all the same! I'm actually hoping to get a Railroad Schools Class. And maybe figure a back-up plan once the traction tires fail on me.

[@SamsTrains]

haha exactly - though dumb experiments are the only good time for traction tyres.... they still shouldn't be used on expensive models! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@James_Rivett]

I have a older Hornby tender drive Britannia, that lost the traction tires off the tender. I replaced these with standard wheels. The chassis dated back to the time it was a loco driven model in the Tri-ang range, so I fitted a crown wheel and motor assembly, with some extra pick ups. We tested it on my friends layout when 1st done (I didn't have a layout big enough at the time) and it managed 15 mk1's on his circuit with the incline, and 20 on the level circuit (the only thing that prevented us from having a long train was.... a lack of additional coaches), and that was with no traction tires anywhere. It was done on a rather tight budget, as I was out of work at the time, and the traction engine ate most of my spare money (as it still does lol). I still run the Brit from time to time, and it sometimes sees 10 coaches behind it which is the maximum I can fit in the fiddle yard, but the norm is 8 as this is the most I can fit in with a tender or diesel loco in the passing loop in the station. I cant claim credit for this idea, as I chap I used to know from Sheringham has done it to his model of Flying Scotsman Keep up the great reviews Sam, their interesting and informative.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot for sharing - wow how come it pulled so much? I wouldn't expect much without the tyres! Sounds fantastic though - I'll have to try that sometime! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@James_Rivett]

@@SamsTrains ​ I guess just down to weight, its a rather heavy 1990's model and Alans old layout had very gentle curves (if I recall correctly they were about 4 foot radius as the layout was about 8 foot wide) and with nice smooth running metal wheels set on the coaches. Also equivalent of two locos. I have no idea if the tender wheels are in sync with the locos wheels, my guess is not (would this help?). I will check when I go out into the train shed, as not sure if the wheels I replaced were knurled or not. I also recall that it did slip a bit on the incline with 15. I think we added one more and it got less than half way up. I also have Hornby class 25 that I have fitted 2 motor bogies, but never loaded this up yet as my passion is steam, but I have a splattering of diesel classes that could be found in East Anglia in the 1960's. Again this is a borrowed idea, as I once met a chap who had converted all his Hornby Diesels so both bogies were powered. (he has also fitted resisters to make initial running slower and capacitors aid running over dead spots..... DCC hadn't bean heard of then and Zero 1 was history). My Hornby class 110 was a bit gutless (due to lack of weight) when I added a extra centre trailer coach to make a 4 car unit. I did try adding extra weight but without much success so I've ended up with 2 powered DMBC, as I didn't want a 2nd motor visible in the driving cab, but that's not really the same is it lol. Would be interesting to see what a 9f with loco and tender drive could do, or Flying Scotsman in 1966 to 1973 configuration with loco and twin tender drive.

[@TDSWar]

Sam You are very creative with your video ideas

[@SamsTrains]

Thank you so much! :D

[@DavoDentetsu]

I reckon if there is one loco you should give a go, Kato's EF510 would be it. Mental pulling power, two bogie-mounted coreless motors and super smooth running.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks mate, I'll look into those for sure! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Steam_Tram_Studios]

Bruh this was AWESOME!!!! A double tender engine, its was so cool!

[@SamsTrains]

Thank you!! I thought it was pretty cool! xD

[@thepikachugamer6775]

I mean the flying Scotsman had 2 tenders

[@teescottageguyproductions]

Ooh nice!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Tee! :D

[@trainfan25stewart16]

Wow great experiment looking forward to the next experiment what ever will you be doing next

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks mate! The next experiments are much crazier than this! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@chriswilson2431]

Great fun! Haha. Living on the edge as usual 😉

[@SamsTrains]

haha thanks Chris! :D

[@TERRYBARTLETTRAILMAN28]

Nice Work Sam maybe you could add a sound decoder to one of the locos like the Merchant Navy class 35005 Canadian Pacific

[@SamsTrains]

Maybe! I'd love that!! :D

[@DavidTheNickjrFan2003]

Keep up the good work buddy. Also my birthday was yesterday October 2nd

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks mate, and happy belated birthday - hope it was great for you! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@apples5503]

Awesome experiment Sam, really enjoyed that! Do you have a specific video on servicing a tender drive engine? I watched with interest the fast forward version and I have a lot of tender drive loco’s. Cheers, Mark. P.S. just found 2 of your videos 👌

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much mate! I don't have a specific one - just the videos on the ringfield motors, so that's what you need! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Veneno2911]

Very interesting idea and very clever

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much mate! :D

[@SuperJacob2006]

Awesome Video Pal

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Jacob! :D

[@alaskacosplay]

I think that loco, on a crazy set up and one tender if it was possible (I'm garbage at mechanics) would make a great banker up an incline.

[@PhilPage227]

Very interesting. I would love to know how to add some weight to my Hornby Schools tender drive loco.

[@SamsTrains]

It's more difficult with the tender drive, as there's not much room in the tender - worth a try though! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Blackwater66]

Where about did you get the plugs and sockets for the build? I could really use some on some of my projects

[@SamsTrains]

I think they came from wish or Aliexpress - if you don't mind the long shipping time, they're dirt cheap! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@piggynice-06]

Good job Victor Frankenstein lol nice vid Sam

[@SamsTrains]

haha exactly! Thank you! :D

[@zacsrailways8020]

Hi sam. Thanks for using my favourite steam locomotive!!

[@SamsTrains]

No problem! Glad you liked it! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@zacsrailways8020]

@@SamsTrains i definitely did! I have two schools classes: railroad Cheltenham and limited edition southern Suburban with br black hailebury

[@FlyingScotFilms]

Sam you are an absolute mad man.

[@SamsTrains]

haha I'm sure not! ;D

[@RacerM53]

I hope the next version of this is trying to put 2 motors into one train under 1 body shell

[@lukeslocomotives]

*Laughs in heljan garrat*

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah! That's what the Garratt does! A Railroad HST could be modded to do that though - I hear that talked about quite often! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@phillwhitehead8591]

Fantastic Sam I enjoyed every Minuit of this But I would very much like your thoughts on TT120

[@kayick5537]

Dat looks awesome I want to try that one day but with the same thing 10 tenders coupled up to each other if I

[@SamsTrains]

haha that'd be crazy - you'd need lots of power for that though! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@GothicSteamEngine96]

Destroying locomotives???? That’s like saying I destroyed my Bachmann 2-6-0 4mt and 2-6-0T 3mt when I mashed them into one 2-6-0 3mt!! Keep doing what you do Sam, as far as a fellow modeller is concerned, you’re doing alright! ^^

[@SamsTrains]

haha thanks so much mate - very glad to hear you say that! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@trainsandstuff1021]

this isin't actually a bad idea, Atleast in my opinion. I can already see hornby intruducing a new line of "Super Drive!" locos with loco and tender drive.

[@SamsTrains]

Thank you!! I'd really love to see that done! :D