The New RYAN ST-L KITPLANE! Build a Piece of History

[@mr.modern4419]

The Ryan ST / ST- A is among the most BEAUTIFUL aircraft ever build!!! Classic!!!

[@PARTner91]

Nice to see a Rotax/Light Sport type of aircraft have some real character! Beautiful airplane.

[@darianbuchanan9600]

I live very close to the Marion NC airfield. It is a joy to see you flying. I often film you flying from my yard. Thanks for the show. Very cool!

[@martinlee7064]

The website is incredible. Such awesome work guys!

[@markrobinson5109]

Always loved these. Now a 90% with a modern engine what could be better. Absolutely beautiful!!

[@Richardcecker]

Beautiful aircraft!

[@Watson1]

That is one beautiful aircraft, and to be able to build a kit with new technology just gets better and better. Great episode. Keep them coming like this one, thank you Wiz

[@5xls]

5:50 Flying wires are stainless steel, NOT aluminum.

[@BetterAircraftFabric]

yeah, for sure!

[@Skinflaps_Meatslapper]

Carbon steel is used for wires as well as stainless. It turns out, stainless steel corrodes too, just not in the obvious and correctable way that carbon steels do.

[@650gringo]

That is one beautiful airplane, with lot's character and charm. Almost Art-Deco I would say.

[@Russellsperry]

That’s definitely a cool build 👍

[@bridgeman11]

My father worked at Ryan in San Diego, pre war. Part of the deal was being able to learn to fly, in the ST. I have a few nice pictures on my wall.

[@jimbeam7776]

Pretty sweet!

[@humbledtrader760]

Beautiful!!!

[@johneastman1905]

Extremely nice to see such a quality effort . Hope the neaten up the dangling wires.

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

It's not the most flattering angle, so it looks worse than it is. We made some recent field additions/modifications and need to tidy it up a bit, no doubt.

[@allanmontile8210]

Well done guys, a beautiful aircraft and outstanding work on the modern technology. Keep on going Nic and Brooks.

[@XRP747E]

Stunning machine.

[@CorsairEngines]

Congrats on completing the kit. Looks great! Hope to see more on it.

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Excellent video!

[@TeemarkConvair]

this is just W0W!!!

[@johnfitzpatrick2469]

What a replica kit plane: engineering excellence. 🚴

[@MonostripeZebra]

really beautiful

[@cpnmikes]

what a cool airplane.. cant believe its light sport!

[@xpump876]

What a gorgeous bird!

[@johnneedy3164]

Beautiful 😍

[@shanakaliyanage6875]

That's one gorgeous looking airplane.

[@funkybassguy68]

As an aircraft mechanic I have to say, that is a beautiful kit. Too bad i’m so poor!!! 😁

[@maloyaircraft1174]

Looks like a great kit! Great work!

[@patrickporter6536]

It's a beauty!

[@AustNRail]

There is a Ryan ST at the Temora Aviation Museum in flying condition in NSW, Australia, and was the flight school’s commandants plane during the Second World War. Temora was a pilot training school in WW2 and the Ryan PT was sent out there as a candidate as a training plane. Needless to say the DH Tiger Moth was used and the Ryan PT was given to the commandant for his use, as trying to ship it back to the USA during the war was not economically practical, so it stayed.

[@hallowther9735]

A nice report and an interesting plane. I have relatives just north of Marion . I may try to seethe plane next time I'm there.

[@gordonleemusicjr2056]

Luv this

[@mqbitsko25]

It cries out for a 4-cylinder LOM. Air-cooled, inline, inverted 4-cylinder.

[@ThorstenKreutzenberger]

Yep, a Rotax 912 is a 4cyl boxer engine, this would be obvious.

[@pilotmiami1]

Amazing

[@747heavyboeing3]

Thumbs down. Why? Haters hate greatness

[@ericglab1630]

Gorgeous aircraft! I have seen an original in the museum at Balboa Park in San Diego.

[@747heavyboeing3]

Great video and terrific airplane model!

[@onthemoney7237]

Nice plane seen a Ryan in Jersey a couple of weeks ago Beautiful 👍

[@sblack48]

You need me to wheel you up some aluminum wheel fairings.

[@ceetressj.3007]

Can’t find the price for the complete kit on the website.

[@94thaerosquadron3]

Well ya!

[@johnailshire966]

I was privileged as a 9 year old to fly in a Ryan PT 22 5 BANGER radial engine. My father was in a partnership with 2 other men ( this about 1957 ). It was displayed for a short period of time at the San Diego Aerospace Museum. I am sure it was the same airplane is that the paint job was that of the rays of the rising sun.It was a fun ride.

[@mithrandir1313]

Ryan ST: Design inspired by GOD!! Beautiful Plane!

[@Agwings1960]

Would love to see the cowling off, so we can see the engine installation

[@zeppelinkiddy]

Prospective builders need to add up ALL the costs associated with this kit including the engine, prop, instruments, assembly jigging and all the other extra thing needed to assemble this aircraft. Those costs can quickly double or more the basic kit price of $43K (plus tax & shipping). Just for comparison I checked out Ryan PT-22's for sale and found a freshly annualed "museum quality" 1941 PT-22 for $97K. Besides not spending a year or more building a 95% replica, for an extra $10K or less you can fly the real thing which will increase in value over time. That said, this does appear to be a well designed and manufactured kit including the steel (not aluminum) flying wires.

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

You are correct that there are additional expenses. Average cost to complete as of right now is 65-85k, depending on the engine chosen (Aeromomentum AM15, vs used Rotax 912uls vs new Rotax 912uls, for example). However, keep in mind the PT-22 is a vastly different airplane than the one we replicated, the ST. From both a structural and performance comparison, they are apples and oranges. So the real deal...the ST, not the PT-22, is going to run you anywhere from 150k for a beater to 500k+ for an award winner. Again, vastly different planes. The next thing to consider when comparing this kit to a PT-22 is performance. The prototype is already beating the performance of a PT-22 in just about every aspect. We're about 500-600 lbs lighter than a PT-22 and over 200 lbs lighter than an ST. Hope this info helps shed some light on the comparison.

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

For more information regarding the Ryan ST vs PT-22, I suggest an article called "The Beauty and the Beast" by Norm Goyer. In addition, pilot reports on the two planes will turn up a lot of good information. With the ST being a civilian sport plane and the PT-22 being a military trainer with a reputation as a "biter", it's surprising how very different they are.

[@pylon500]

Having worked on a full size STM here in Australia, I can see you needed to keep the cockpit at 100%. Just imagining an ST with a Verner 5L in front (STK?) These should sell like hot cakes, hope you can keep up.

[@47colton]

Id do this plane in a second if it had a werner...

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

We are building a radial one now. Check our latest Facebook post for the renders.

[@Jonathan.D]

The flying one in the us was used in an episode of MASH titled 5 o'clock Charlie. The funny thing is the guy tossing bombs at the was not flying the plane. The actual pilot was hunched down in the aft cockpit. The pilot was also the owner of the plane, Don Burkett. He kept the plane in a hangar at the long beach airport. He was asked to fly the plane because the studio's pilot didn't have experience with flying this type of aircraft. 😄

[@lewisparker4488]

hangar

[@Jonathan.D]

@@lewisparker4488 The spell check likes to think it knows best. Fixed.👍

[@jimhumphrey]

Great coverage of this reproduction RYAN ST. One thing not mentioned is the use this plane had in WWII. A quick google on its history will convince any would-be builder that this is a must-have plane.

[@R.B_B]

With the right oil system. They can fly inverted?

[@ersikillian]

Why are there wooden sticks crudely lashed to the wing wires?

[@russellesimonetta9071]

That would be cool with a Werner 7 cylinder radial!

[@procruiser]

Great plane and video Nick! Now that it's all the way out in NC how am I ever going to see it in person?

[@thisismagacountry1318]

Build an RAF Mosquito and they will come.

[@kevspss]

Me wants

[@dirtcop11]

I thought it might have a motorcycle engine. A Rotax is good, though.

[@Mr.Scootini]

Jeez, I can’t wait till the day I have more hours and fly a tail dragger that’s an Open cockpit.

[@miksal26]

There were a number of these in Australia during the 60’s. More than 1 of them was written off in ground loop accidents. The span of the gear looked as though it was half that of the DHC1 “Chippy”. Cheers from Downunder 👍🇦🇺🇺🇸😷😷😷

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

They definitely had a reputation, which is why I redesigned the landing gear.

[@thomasaltruda]

5:50 the flying wires should be stainless steel, not “stretched aluminum”

[@onthemoney7237]

It’s heavy the wires are the skin is stretched aluminum

[@thomasaltruda]

@@onthemoney7237 the wires are the skin is stretched aluminum?

[@Jonathan.D]

Those wires are made just for this purpose and they are an industry standard. He didn't go down to Home Depot and buy a roll of aluminum wire. Stainless would be too heavy and would sag in this application. You would have to put so much tension on stainless it could cause warping or failure of itself/other parts. As for the body skins, they are pre-stressed not stretched. Sounds the same but a little different. Also, the body panels are doing a different job from the aluminum wires. The panels and bulkheads work together to create a rigid body without a frame. The wires only keep the wings rigid. That's why he called it a semi-monocoque. Onlooker, "Why are you stripping all of that wire?" Builder, "I'm building a plane and I need it to hold my wings up." Onlooker, "Haven't you heard of Red Bull?" Builder, "Nope, but I am going to use the stripped-off plastic to hold up my pants."😉

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

Thomas is correct, the flying wires are standard stainless wires supplied by Bruntons via Steen Aero Labs. We all get words crossed from time to time.

[@foxmoth5477]

@@Jonathan.D seriously do not state your opinions - things you know nothing about - SS would sag in this application - what a ignorant statement - go back to school and educate yourself...

[@datgio4951]

YOOOOO

[@nealeaster4137]

Oct 16 2021 car show and fly-in at Surry county airport in Mt Airy NC 27030,bring it.

[@paulslevinsky580]

I think there's a bent Ryan ST at the bottom of a crater dug by Hans Solo somewhere.

[@foxmoth5477]

Han Solo was flying a pt-22 Recruit not a ST...

[@sblack48]

19th hole…

[@ThomasDoubting5]

I'd be surprised if this doesn't sell Many unit's.. smashing little aircraft

[@garymitchell6897]

Landing and flying wires would be stainless not aluminium surely

[@WalterPidgeonsForge]

Wasn’t it a Ryan that Harrison Ford crashed?

[@stefantwotimes]

I try to grasp something here at 6:17, it is a wire that if the pressure comes from above keeps it where it should be if you do not fly up and down then! I would like to have that wire on the underside and that the lye pressure comes from below! exuse my english! the pressure of the air comes from below or how ,, and wires are on the top ,, do you understand what I mean? in my world if you fly upside down then the wire takes up the power but not now !? haha hope you understand what i mean ,, :-)

[@stefantwotimes]

ON the forewings is what I want :-) so holding from under,,

[@scootypuffjr.]

The wires top and bottom are all in tension allowing no movement. Like the wires on a radio tower.

[@Jonathan.D]

@@scootypuffjr. 100% Nail on the head!

[@None-zc5vg]

@@Jonathan.D If the bracing-wires were omitted from this 'new' aircraft, would it be possible to beef-up the wing's mainspar to take over their function or would the consequent weight-increase drastically reduce performance/affordability?

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

As I designed it, the stainless brace wires are a necessity for this plane. To eliminate the wires would add enough weight and build complexity that any gains would be offset and then some. To make the wing cantilever would change the character of the plane completely, and not for the better.

[@Threetails]

Most people just know it as the plane Harrison Ford furrowed a golf course with.

[@cooflowjenkins]

Go to triple tree aerodrome

[@BradyDearinger]

Ya'll need to do more testing on the VNE. I want a slightly higher VNE if possible. Also, what are the aerobatic capabilities of this? if I can roll it and loop if than I'm sold. haha thanks

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

We've already surpassed the published top speed of the original, but might explore a higher Vne one day. Given the class of plane, however, that isn't a priority and may not happen. We have tested the plane in barrel rolls, accelerated stalls, toilet paper dog fighting, and other fun maneuvers. Loops have not yet been done, though the plane has regularly seen the 4G limit during testing.

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

By the way, we're in the process of building a clipped wing version with a 6G limit wing.

[@la_old_salt2241]

I need...

[@foxmoth5477]

those flying and landing wires had better not be aluminum!!!

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

They are stainless steel, standard for the industry. Everyone misspeaks from time to time.

[@foxmoth5477]

@@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627 yes we all do - but a simple correction - even overdubbing the post production would help - as you can see in the comments many people who do not know will take what you say as gospel and repeat it - how about a simple correction spelled out - saying "sorry I misspoke - they are Bruntons of Scotland SS wires" - by the way - wonderful aircraft and achievement - much better than a lot of "reproductions'" out there - excellent aircraft and kit too - was impressed looking the aircraft over at Oshkosh this year!

[@jimarcher5255]

@@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627 Joe Biden is proof of that.

[@zippythinginvention]

I don't think that any realistically interested party would be shocked or dismayed by the price. I do wish that a simplistic broad scale of pricing would be readily available. I mean, rather than filling out the whole order form.

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

It's all on the website in detail, in addition to the order form. Average estimated price to complete, depending on the engine chosen, is 65-85k. Right now, a new Aeromomentum AM15 puts the estimated completion price as low as 67k.

[@zippythinginvention]

@@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627 that's an amazing price point, I think.

[@briankumpan9892]

To me it's not how fast I go, it's more of just getting in the air

[@ele4853]

Interesting. Cheaper power plant. Rotax? Cheaper? LOL

[@pcbondart]

nifty little plane, I knew somebody once who had a real one . . . have you considered building a version with some kind of round engine, like Ryan made one with, I believe, a Kinner engine?

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

We are doing one now with a radial. The ST never did come with a radial, but the military converted a few PT-20s to Kinner power. That led to the development of the much more cantankerous PT-22. Unlike the ST and PT-20, the PT-22 has a reputation of being a handful.

[@pcbondart]

@@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627 OK, thank you, I never knew anything about the PT-22, I did know somebody with an STM

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

The ST-M is basically a PT-20 built for the foreign market. Good airplane. The reason the PT-22 became such a handful was the introduction of wing sweep with an approximate 300 lbs heavier empty weight...with no increase in power or wing area. It also had more drag and still retained zero washout. The ST series, including the PT-16, PT-20, and ST-M was a far better plane, in my opinion.

[@BillyG869]

Need a lot more power than the original…

[@theblackbear211]

The first air crash I ever witnessed - back in the late 60's, was one of these going down after an engine failure. The Pilot and Passenger walked away, walked away. I always loved this plane.

[@wardduffield489]

Would this fly with a Rotec R2800, like a 95% PT-22? That would be pretty cool

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

We're building one with the R2800 right now. It'll turn a more substantial propeller than the Rotax will, so I don't have any concerns with using any appropriate radial.

[@carlostavarefilms]

Can you also install a Rotec engine in it?

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

We're currently doing a builder assist with a Rotec R2800 on it. The Verner 7u is great from a power and weight perspective, as well.

[@ronjohnson9507]

Rotec engines are junk

[@carlostavarefilms]

How about Verner Scarlett 5S ?

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

So far, I'm a fan of Verners, myself. The 7u is a better fit for power and weight. The 5s might be a hair too light and underpowered for the ST-L.

[@charliebowman785]

Beautiful sporty girl.

[@stillflyingovernj]

Here is some video of an original 1939 Ryan ST-A aircraft, still flying. It was at the EAA Chapter 643 fly-in at Sky Manor airport in NJ last weekend. It is in "like new" condition and was easily the star of the show. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpeohaWwpNimr6c The Ryan video starts at around six minutes in.

[@Jf72-j9r]

Harrison Ford crashed one of these.

[@LorenR1962]

The sound of this airplane is always masked…cause it sounds crappy.

[@yeagermcbipper9008]

$100k to go < 100mph cruise? That's a very unique market to target.

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

That's somewhat misleading. Yes, somebody can drop that much into it if they splurge on everything. The sky is the limit on any project. But the vast majority of builders will have far less than that into the plane. I estimate as low as about 65k with an average being about 75-85k. Also keep in mind the plane is designed for up to 115kts cruise. It all comes down to having the right powerplant/prop combo for that. We used the Rotax 912uls, as it is the industry standard, with a prop designed to cruise at a higher rpm than we use. Our prototype has been tested beyond the published top speed of the original Ryan ST-A, which will likely run you 250-500k...if you can find one.

[@Skinflaps_Meatslapper]

Go buy a supercub or stearman and see how fast that $120K gets you. It's not always about speed...if it was, Glasair and Lancair would've sold a hell of a lot more planes than they have.

[@lessharratt8719]

You didn't mention it so I am guessing this is a full size and not some scale kit. Am I right about that. Sure is a beautiful aircraft.

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

It's 95% scale. The 5% difference was absolutely critical in getting the required performance out of today's small powerplants. Also, it's counterintuitive, but the smaller size creates clearances in key places and makes the cockpit more comfortable. At 100% scale, we'd have ended up with a more expensive, less comfortable plane with unacceptable performance.

[@lessharratt8719]

@@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627 Thanks Timber Tiger.

[@doesntmatter3068]

NICE!! but to slow. (for me)

[@peteranderson037]

I wonder if a Viking 130 would be too heavy for it.

[@timbertigeraircraftinc.mon2627]

I don't know much about the Viking line, but can confirm the Aeromomentum AM15 is nearly perfect for fit, weight, and power. I'm going to use it on the next one I build.

[@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk]

Lovely aircraft but needs a top wing. Would look great as biplane.

[@outlawflyer7868]

Would like the videos more if you got rid of wanting to thank the damn sponsors in the middle of someone explaining features of the aircraft. Guess you only listen to your patrons. I don't get why you can't thank your sponsors either at the beginning or at the end.

[@ExperimentalAircraftChannel]

It's a little more complicated than that Fellow Aviator. KZbin works different than Television. 100% The "damn" sponsors are what makes it possible to bring new episodes Each and Every Week from "On Location" (verse swiped content from other creators). We'll see what we can do to become more seamless in transitions for Sponsors. Thank You for your encouragement and support here. We truly appreciate you being here and your interest in Aviation.

[@RADThird1]

The sponsor segment does not bother me in the least when I get to see good content that is FREE!

[@johnailshire966]

I was privileged as a 9 year old to fly in a Ryan PT 22 5 BANGER radial engine. My father was in a partnership with 2 other men ( this about 1957 ). It was displayed for a short period of time at the San Diego Aerospace Museum. I am sure it was the same airplane is that the paint job was that of the rays of the rising sun.It was a fun ride.